:00:23. > :00:33.Hello and welcome to Out Of The Blue. We are live from Belfast.
:00:33. > :00:37.with us tonight, these guys. Also, it she went solo, worked with a
:00:37. > :00:46.group of musicians, you cannot dodge them, it is Katie And The
:00:46. > :00:51.Carnival! How work is in private collection on three continents and
:00:51. > :01:01.playwright Martin Lynch hired her as artist in residence for his
:01:01. > :01:04.
:01:04. > :01:10.production company. It is Carrie Neely. -- Deepa Mann-Kler. Now it
:01:10. > :01:18.is the cat that is some deeper trouble. A tis the pair with some
:01:18. > :01:27.red hair, Jedward. How are you doing? You look crazy in your red
:01:27. > :01:32.dress. I am John and he is Edward, together we are Jedward. It is our
:01:32. > :01:37.first time on Out Of The Blue. How are you guys? I have never had a
:01:37. > :01:43.guest hit me with a cushion but there is a first time for
:01:43. > :01:53.everything. We could burst things with our hair. We are so excited to
:01:53. > :02:01.be back in Belfast. If you could produce some energy for us in this
:02:01. > :02:07.show, it would go down well. have got nice lipstick on. Hello,
:02:07. > :02:17.guys! Let's just get one thing straight, which one is which?
:02:17. > :02:19.
:02:19. > :02:25.Jon, he is Edward, I have a scar on my nose, he has. The ear. -- he has
:02:25. > :02:33.a pointy ears. She is probably the most photographed woman in the
:02:33. > :02:37.world. And all those use of Queen Elizabeth II can be found currently
:02:37. > :02:42.at the Ulster Museum in an exhibition of some 60 portraits of
:02:42. > :02:47.the monarch from Andy Warhol to Lucian Freud to Malcolm McLaren's
:02:47. > :02:53.images for the cover of the sex Pistols album. It is clear no two
:02:53. > :03:03.or artists seek the same person the same way. Carrie Neely found out
:03:03. > :03:05.
:03:06. > :03:11.more. This is my son's first portrait.
:03:11. > :03:15.For some of us, it is the limit of our creative endeavours. But
:03:15. > :03:20.thousands of artists, amateur and professional have spent a lifetime
:03:20. > :03:25.trying to master capturing a face on canvas. And everyone is
:03:25. > :03:31.different. The style, the colours, even the subject. You not only get
:03:32. > :03:36.a sense of the painted but also the painter. Bangor based award-winning
:03:36. > :03:41.artist Colin Davidson painted these. I did have an idea that I wanted to
:03:41. > :03:46.paint them larger than life size. That is what started off with the
:03:46. > :03:53.painting of Duke which was done at the beginning of last year. It
:03:53. > :03:58.always starts with the person coming here or me going and seeing
:03:58. > :04:07.them. There is movement. I don't ever want anybody to sit still or
:04:07. > :04:11.to pose so we chat the whole time. What I am striving for his not so
:04:11. > :04:19.much depicting an interaction between the artist and the subject,
:04:19. > :04:29.but what I want to do is almost capture the moment when someone is
:04:29. > :04:36.lost in their own thoughts. 1, two, possibly three noses there. It is
:04:36. > :04:39.almost that effect of using a camera at slow speed. Actually, in
:04:39. > :04:43.static portrait capturing movement as well as form. But as what
:04:44. > :04:49.Picasso was trying to do here. Nicole Mezey lectures on
:04:49. > :04:54.portraiture at the Ulster Museum. There is a face on a cave wall
:04:54. > :04:58.20,000 years old which it is alleged is a portrait. All we can
:04:58. > :05:05.know it is it is a face. We can really start to talk about
:05:05. > :05:13.portraiture with the ancient Romans, five centuries BC. They had this
:05:13. > :05:17.huge cult of personality. Above all, a good portrait speaks to you. The
:05:17. > :05:22.best portraits make us feel that we know somebody. That we have a sense
:05:22. > :05:27.of what they would be like a dinner table, of what they would be going
:05:27. > :05:32.through. This is one of Rembrandt's last self-portraits. The longer you
:05:32. > :05:37.look at that face, the more we feel you know the man. This was a man at
:05:37. > :05:42.the end of his life. It is about connecting with people and we are
:05:42. > :05:50.connecting with somebody back across nearly 400 years now. This
:05:50. > :05:58.is exactly the opposite. This is about mystery. Leonardo has set her
:05:58. > :06:06.outside time. Even her hair. If it is styled, you immediately dated --
:06:06. > :06:11.date it. Headdress is dark, almost dreary. -- her dress. It is miles
:06:11. > :06:16.away from the bejewelled corseted cutting edge action of the day. He
:06:16. > :06:26.is saying, this is not a portrait of a woman in Florence in 50 No 4,
:06:26. > :06:31.he is saying this is woman, almost. And it is this quality in a
:06:31. > :06:36.portrait, the ability to make you stop and connect to a painting that
:06:36. > :06:40.makes you set it apart. A portrait can have all the structure and
:06:40. > :06:44.technique in the world, but if the artist has not managed to connect
:06:44. > :06:51.the essence of the sitter, it will not join the ranks of the true
:06:51. > :06:59.greats. The Queen, art and image runs at
:06:59. > :07:07.the Ulster Museum and will the 15th of generate. Now, boys, you won the
:07:07. > :07:12.X Factor when you're 17. Everyone thinks we are 15. We were in
:07:12. > :07:17.finance the other night,. We were in Lapland, we met a reindeer. The
:07:17. > :07:23.guy would not let us into the restaurant because he thought we
:07:23. > :07:28.were 15 but we are 20. What about poor Janet Devlin? She is so
:07:28. > :07:33.talented, she has a great image. I think she will do so many different
:07:33. > :07:38.things. I think it's a really good platform for Janet. All our fans
:07:38. > :07:43.can say you do not have to win the show to be a great success. All of
:07:43. > :07:49.those who are a big success have not actually won it. You went to
:07:49. > :07:59.represent your country at Eurovision. Representing Ireland!
:07:59. > :08:20.
:08:20. > :08:28.I've come on a visit what I could find, how could I when when I'm
:08:28. > :08:34.losing... Can I speak? Yes, you may speak now. What was that like, a
:08:34. > :08:40.huge global audience? It was crazy. What were you like before you went
:08:40. > :08:47.on stage because you bounce around? It was crazy. We were literally
:08:48. > :08:51.standing there and there was a gigantic laser going 10, 9, 8, 7...
:08:52. > :08:57.We were in front of the camera but you do not see the camera, we could
:08:57. > :09:03.see people at home. We had support from everyone back in Ireland.
:09:03. > :09:10.there was the Pope, it was crazy. And you might do it next year?
:09:10. > :09:15.Everyone fate for us. Right now, we are picking songs. It is all on the
:09:15. > :09:21.down their right now. But our contenders, watch out because we
:09:21. > :09:27.will have an amazing song. How will you top it? It will be a better
:09:27. > :09:35.song than Lipstick. We are going to get you! What about the cost tins?
:09:35. > :09:41.Because used we are wearing right now. -- the costumes? We will dream
:09:41. > :09:47.an amazing outfit and we will wake up and ask them to make it for us.
:09:47. > :09:57.Lipstick is last year's song, you have a new song called Wow Oh Wow.
:09:57. > :10:18.
:10:18. > :10:28.But guess who is in the video? It is American Pie crazy. What do you
:10:28. > :10:29.
:10:29. > :10:37.guys think? We love it. We will hear more, of course, in a minute.
:10:37. > :10:42.Wow Oh Wow is out now! Roy Walker was merely moved City is
:10:42. > :10:49.telling us his. They have all curated their own private
:10:49. > :10:53.exhibition of works of art which mean something to them. Today, the
:10:53. > :11:03.Bangor born MP who has cheaply worked his way through jungles in
:11:03. > :11:14.
:11:14. > :11:20.Now, there is an old friend on canvas. I have not seen that for a
:11:20. > :11:25.long, long time. This is a wonderful painting which really got
:11:25. > :11:33.me interested in art. For water lilies by Claude Monet, which is
:11:33. > :11:37.not just one painting, it is a series of paintings. I learnt about
:11:37. > :11:47.Impressionism by this. Just by making small brush marks you create
:11:47. > :11:48.
:11:48. > :11:57.an overall picture. I think that is like life. A different kind of art,
:11:57. > :12:04.a different medium, this one is the art of words. And it is my
:12:04. > :12:10.favourite book. It is a book which really paints a picture of optimism
:12:10. > :12:15.in the very dark circumstances. The author experienced life at the
:12:15. > :12:23.roughest end in the Soviet Union. He was banged up in a forced labour
:12:23. > :12:29.camp in Siberia and one of the inspirational out comes of it was
:12:29. > :12:34.one day in the life. The Allied deal of a man who is banged up in
:12:34. > :12:41.prison for about eight years for political crimes -- the idea of a
:12:41. > :12:44.man. Although the circumstances are dreadful, he has a good day. I was
:12:44. > :12:50.particularly interested in it because my whole family has been
:12:50. > :12:54.affected by the Soviet Union. I was born in Bangor but my family are
:12:54. > :12:58.Estonians so they came from similar circumstances as this. Eyelid
:12:58. > :13:08.characterise it by saying suffering is inevitable but misery is a
:13:08. > :13:12.
:13:12. > :13:17.choice -- I would characterise it. That has got to be one of the most
:13:18. > :13:25.profound photographs ever taken by the human race. The Apollo
:13:26. > :13:34.astronauts took this picture. It is called Earth rise. They actually
:13:35. > :13:39.made this journey on 25th December 1968. As they came round the moon,
:13:39. > :13:44.they read parts of Genesis from the Bible and they wished everybody a
:13:44. > :13:50.merry Christmas on the Good Earth. It is really moving how they talk
:13:50. > :14:00.about it. It is an important picture and we forget the message
:14:00. > :14:26.
:14:26. > :14:35.of Our important blue dot at our I am talking over it. I have
:14:35. > :14:40.nothing to say. It talks for itself. It has got to be one of the most
:14:40. > :14:49.compulsively resilient pieces of music ever written about the human
:14:49. > :14:56.race. This is fanfare For The Common man, written in 1942, the
:14:56. > :14:59.height of World War II. It summarises in musical terms what I
:14:59. > :15:08.think politics should be about. What the best human endeavour is
:15:08. > :15:15.about. It moves you to tears. Anybody who is not moved by this is
:15:15. > :15:25.not human. It is about seeing the whole view like Monet. It is about
:15:25. > :15:28.
:15:28. > :15:32.seeing the best situation. It is Lembit Opik with his private
:15:32. > :15:35.exhibition of his favourite things. If there was a Jedward version...
:15:36. > :15:43.You have an amazing collection of memorabilia. What would you
:15:43. > :15:51.include? We have outfits that we war. My God Jackson's autograph. So
:15:51. > :15:58.much memorabilia. -- Michael Jackson's autograph. One day we
:15:59. > :16:06.will open a museum. Notice in a secret location at the moment.
:16:06. > :16:11.not asking you where it is! Crazy. You obviously both like the same
:16:11. > :16:16.things. Is there anything that you like that he does not? He likes
:16:16. > :16:25.honey. You know cones for ice cream? I got to an age when I did
:16:25. > :16:32.like them. I like everything that you like. If you ever ask him, then
:16:32. > :16:40.they say he is the talkative one and I am a quiet one. Not one of
:16:40. > :16:45.you is quiet! He was totally sleeping when we were about to go
:16:45. > :16:51.on air. I was telling him to drink water. I tell him to drink water to
:16:51. > :16:55.hydrate. If you want energy, drink lots of water and eat healthy.
:16:55. > :17:05.were just checking our phone. you have both met some fantastic
:17:05. > :17:07.
:17:07. > :17:14.people along the way. Barack Obama. And Katy Perry, and Michael Buble...
:17:14. > :17:22.And out of all of them who would you duet with? Who? I don't know.
:17:23. > :17:29.Barack Obama. He might have a lovely voice. He might wrap.
:17:29. > :17:32.Britney Spears. Lady Gaga. Who do you think? I don't know. Is there
:17:32. > :17:39.anybody that you would like to meet that you have not met? Justin
:17:39. > :17:49.Timberlake. And he Wells? Nelson Mandela. You could have her dancing
:17:49. > :17:54.competition with him. He looks really call. -- cool. Who do you
:17:55. > :18:04.want to meet? We are just happy to meet Jedward. You say I love
:18:04. > :18:08.Jedward but it should be we love Jedward. Justin Bieber and all the
:18:08. > :18:13.guys are in Belfast chilling. What is the main question that you want
:18:13. > :18:17.to ask us? I want to know who came up with the turn Jedward? One
:18:17. > :18:21.minute you were John and Edward and then he became the huge phenomenon
:18:21. > :18:31.Jedward. We were in a bar and we found an envelope that said you are
:18:31. > :18:39.Jedward. Somebody said is it John? Is it bed? It was good for the
:18:39. > :18:47.tabloids. John and Edward takes up too much space on the page. But
:18:47. > :18:54.Jedward is a brand. Then everybody can say, Jedward! Jedward! Can I
:18:54. > :18:59.hear you chanting Jedward? Jedward! It has been a revelation to have
:18:59. > :19:04.you here. All the people watching, our brand new single is out now.
:19:04. > :19:09.Every single person should download it. We love you guys so much. Out
:19:09. > :19:13.Of The Blue is the best show. have got the plug. Thank you. Now
:19:13. > :19:21.for something go broody different. The creators of Wallace and Gromit
:19:21. > :19:27.have something else on their hands. Animation works as well as it did
:19:27. > :19:33.since Walt Disney and Mickey Mouse. Toy Story, two dimensional, three-
:19:33. > :19:37.dimensional, there is box-office in computer modelling. We meet a man
:19:37. > :19:41.that is getting Northern Ireland on the same page as Hollywood.
:19:41. > :19:48.They are is a crack in the Northern Irish film industry. A fracture
:19:48. > :19:57.that needs to be mended. The success of our international TV
:19:57. > :20:02.and film work is awe-inspiring. Your Highness was made here.
:20:02. > :20:09.Despite their being lots of talent, our industry has been left quaking
:20:09. > :20:14.in the wake of Hollywood. Until now. Now one man has appeared in our
:20:14. > :20:20.midst. His mission is to turn Northern Ireland into an animation
:20:20. > :20:24.superpower. His name is Greg Maguire. Creative technical
:20:25. > :20:29.director on Avatar, this man has also worked on Spiderman and Harry
:20:29. > :20:35.Potter. In the animation world he is Stella. His star is about to
:20:35. > :20:41.shine on Northern Ireland. originally went to California for a
:20:41. > :20:43.year and ended up staying. When I was there, I was able to grab on to
:20:43. > :20:48.some opportunities and great experiences and get some great
:20:48. > :20:54.movies under my belt as well. The talent here has been amazing. The
:20:54. > :21:01.skill level, not so much. That is why we are running courses at the
:21:01. > :21:06.University here. Most companies are probably one or two man bans. The
:21:06. > :21:10.more I talk to them, the more it seems that they are in competition
:21:10. > :21:14.with one another. Instead of collaborating with each other. When
:21:14. > :21:21.you come together, then you can be assured of getting jobs from the
:21:21. > :21:29.USA. You would think you would take years for changes to occur in the
:21:29. > :21:33.animation industry, even with Greg's support. You would be wrong.
:21:34. > :21:37.Meet the new company Black North. The studio is two years old and we
:21:37. > :21:41.find that we get more and more creative and exciting projects
:21:41. > :21:45.coming through the door. I think we are an example that you can be
:21:45. > :21:51.based in Belfast and working on a Hollywood feature film. Adam
:21:51. > :21:56.Santa's latest film, we are doing the effects on that. We are
:21:56. > :22:00.painting in elements of something called Atomic Fiction.
:22:00. > :22:05.confidence grows among animation companies, things are looking up
:22:05. > :22:09.for the industry. And it is not just animation companies feeling
:22:09. > :22:13.the Greg effect. We're working on short animation at the moment. We
:22:13. > :22:16.got funding from the European Commission. It enabled us to come
:22:16. > :22:22.together as a group and so that something to the German film
:22:22. > :22:29.festival. It is awesome. People like Craig here, they bring back
:22:29. > :22:33.the skills. They tell us what we need to know to be at this level.
:22:33. > :22:38.am amazingly proud. I would not send people's work to California
:22:38. > :22:41.unless I was proud of it. I have sent some of the student work to
:22:41. > :22:45.California. I sent it to the director of Star Wars and said,
:22:45. > :22:53.look at what they are doing with just one year of work under their
:22:53. > :22:56.belt. He can't believe it. It is outstanding. And one of his
:22:56. > :23:06.students managed to make ralph looked better when transforming him
:23:06. > :23:07.
:23:07. > :23:12.into 3D. Truly terrifying. Working away for the last 16 minutes has
:23:12. > :23:18.been our artist, Deepa Mann-Kler. Can you tell us what you have done?
:23:18. > :23:23.I have tried to produce a painting which has connections with children
:23:23. > :23:28.that are in need. I have used lilac, a spiritual colour with yellow, a
:23:28. > :23:32.healing colour. You describe your work as Abstract Expressionism. Can
:23:32. > :23:38.you do find that? It is working in an emotional way quite quickly. For
:23:38. > :23:42.me it is using colour and texture. You were in your mid-30s when you
:23:42. > :23:47.started working as a professional artist. Why did you leave it so
:23:47. > :23:53.late? I think just through circumstance. Being a second
:23:53. > :23:56.generation Indian, my parents wanted me to take an academic route
:23:56. > :24:00.to protect me from the racism they had encountered and I went down
:24:00. > :24:06.that road. It has not really stop to because you are branching into
:24:06. > :24:12.the lucrative market of New York. - - stopped you. Yes, I want to get
:24:12. > :24:15.into India, to go to Delhi, London. I have some exciting plans with the
:24:15. > :24:23.galleries that are expanding in the new year. It is difficult to crack
:24:23. > :24:30.but you are doing very well. Your time in India and England
:24:30. > :24:34.influences your work ferry profusely. Yes, there was a Celtic
:24:34. > :24:39.Indian influence in my drawings. Why am drawing on my childhood
:24:39. > :24:44.experiences in my current body of work. -- I am drawing. And you have
:24:44. > :24:53.signed that. It is personal to the show, as personal as I can make it.
:24:54. > :24:59.Some of them have gone, but all of the works have been signed. They
:24:59. > :25:06.are all being auctioned with proceeds going to charity.
:25:06. > :25:11.Now it is time for some music. Her voice has touched the heights with
:25:11. > :25:18.choirs in Manchester. She has done some puppeteer Rome and she fronts
:25:18. > :25:22.her own band. The band is called Katie and The Carnival. You have
:25:22. > :25:27.finally hit on music after a lot of things. Yes, I have tried lots of
:25:27. > :25:31.things. I love working on my own songs. Even within your musical
:25:31. > :25:35.career in has been varied. This is the first time that you are
:25:35. > :25:41.standing up as the front person. There must be more pressure. Yes,
:25:41. > :25:47.but more reward at the end of 12. I love writing music. I love getting
:25:47. > :25:51.up and performing. You change your musicians and your line-up
:25:51. > :25:57.according to the noise that you are creating. With these guys, you have
:25:57. > :26:03.stuck with them for a while. Yes, for a year. We are really having a
:26:03. > :26:09.bus, making big sounds. It is great. -- having a blast. And a Christmas
:26:09. > :26:14.album is coming? Yes, we decided to write some Christmas songs. We are
:26:14. > :26:18.doing lots of Christmas concerts in the run-up. We thought we would
:26:18. > :26:28.release our own CD. I look forward to catching some of those concerts
:26:28. > :26:29.
:26:29. > :26:35.and to hearing you play live so. On Out Of The Blue, we meet your
:26:35. > :26:38.alter ego. Why can't we get enough of men dressing up as women? And we
:26:38. > :26:43.meet the person that survived concentration camps before bringing
:26:43. > :26:49.modern dance to Northern Ireland. At least a Hannigan plays live.
:26:49. > :26:59.you next week at 7:30pm. But to end the programme, we have Katie and
:26:59. > :27:03.
:27:03. > :27:13.# To the sea I will go running. # Off on my own again.
:27:13. > :27:21.
:27:21. > :27:31.# Keep those happy thoughts. # My Heart keeps escaping, round
:27:31. > :27:43.
:27:43. > :27:49.# You never understand anything about my plans.
:27:49. > :27:56.# We know exactly what you do. # I am going far away from here.
:27:56. > :28:06.A # Getting far away from you. # I don't need you.
:28:06. > :28:19.
:28:19. > :28:29.# Going to reach the bottom. # Never thought this day would come.
:28:29. > :28:34.
:28:34. > :28:43.# When I play her new horizon, # I know you never understand
:28:43. > :28:47.anything about my plans. # And their exactly what you do.