Haf Madoc Wilson

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0:00:00 > 0:00:05- Tracing the family tree - is an obsession for Welsh people.

0:00:05 > 0:00:09- We like to ask where do you come - from and to whom are you related.

0:00:09 > 0:00:12- In the National Library - in Aberystwyth...

0:00:12 > 0:00:16- ..the Perthyn team is investigating - some of your stories.

0:00:16 > 0:00:20- They've found some colourful - characters. Welcome to Perthyn.

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0:00:50 > 0:00:55- A few months ago, we invited you - to send us your family stories.

0:00:55 > 0:00:59- They've been flooding in - from all over Wales.

0:01:03 > 0:01:07- The National Library of Wales - is home to a team of experts...

0:01:07 > 0:01:11- ..who've been investigating - your stories.

0:01:17 > 0:01:21- One of the stories - that caught their attention...

0:01:21 > 0:01:25- ..takes us to Borth-y-Gest - to meet Haf Madoc Wilson...

0:01:25 > 0:01:30- ..who wants our help to find out - more about her grandfather's family.

0:01:33 > 0:01:37- Tracing your family tree - is a recent obsession for you.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39- What prompted you to start?

0:01:39 > 0:01:42- I was giving a lift home - to someone...

0:01:42 > 0:01:45- ..who'd been tracing - her family tree...

0:01:45 > 0:01:49- ..and though I'm ashamed to say it, - I thought, oh, no, not another one!

0:01:50 > 0:01:54- She told me her great-grandfather - lived in the Liverpool Arms...

0:01:54 > 0:01:59- ..in Menai Bridge, which is where - my grandfather was raised.

0:01:59 > 0:02:01- I said to her, - "Don't tell me any more.

0:02:02 > 0:02:05- "Let me go home - and check my facts first."

0:02:05 > 0:02:08- But I could find nothing about him.

0:02:08 > 0:02:11- Was your search proving difficult?

0:02:12 > 0:02:15- William Williams - was my great-grandfather.

0:02:15 > 0:02:18- There are a number of those - in this area...

0:02:18 > 0:02:22- ..when you consider the hundreds - of quarrymen who lived here.

0:02:23 > 0:02:27- Williams is a popular surname - and William Williams even more so.

0:02:28 > 0:02:31- Are there specific questions - you'd like to ask...

0:02:31 > 0:02:34- ..and facts you'd like to find out?

0:02:34 > 0:02:38- I've heard that my family - on my grandfather's side...

0:02:38 > 0:02:43- ..ran a quarry above Llanllechid - called Bryn Hafod-y-Wern.

0:02:44 > 0:02:48- They say that Lord Penrhyn - made such a misery of their lives...

0:02:48 > 0:02:50- ..that they gave it up.

0:02:50 > 0:02:53- I'd like to know if that's true.

0:02:53 > 0:02:56- I'd also like to know - a little about them...

0:02:56 > 0:03:00- ..their way of life - and if they're still in the area.

0:03:03 > 0:03:07- Haf returns to Church Island - in the Menai Strait...

0:03:07 > 0:03:09- ..to visit a family grave.

0:03:12 > 0:03:15- When I started tracing - the family's history...

0:03:15 > 0:03:21- ..I was both shocked and ashamed - to discover how little I knew.

0:03:21 > 0:03:24- The only thing I knew - about my grandfather...

0:03:24 > 0:03:28- ..was that he was raised - in the Liverpool Arms...

0:03:28 > 0:03:33- ..and his parents were buried - on Church Island near Menai Bridge.

0:03:37 > 0:03:41- My grandfather always wore a sprig - of southernwood in his buttonhole.

0:03:41 > 0:03:46- As a little girl, I'd ask him, - "Why are you wearing that?"

0:03:46 > 0:03:48- He'd say, "All quarrymen wear them."

0:03:49 > 0:03:52- He also had three spots - like a tattoo on his hand.

0:03:52 > 0:03:56- I asked him the same question again, - "Why, Taid?"

0:03:56 > 0:03:58- He wasn't the type to have a tattoo.

0:03:58 > 0:04:01- But he told me - that all quarrymen had them.

0:04:02 > 0:04:05- As a little girl, - I didn't ask any more about it.

0:04:10 > 0:04:16- Here on Church Island is where - my great-grandparents are buried.

0:04:16 > 0:04:19- William Williams, - my great-grandfather...

0:04:19 > 0:04:23- ..ran the Liverpool Arms - just around the corner.

0:04:23 > 0:04:25- As you can see...

0:04:25 > 0:04:29- ..it's a very peaceful place - and I'm fond of coming here.

0:04:29 > 0:04:34- Before running the Liverpool Arms, - he had many jobs in Menai Bridge...

0:04:34 > 0:04:37- ..before dying of TB - at the age of 34 years.

0:04:37 > 0:04:41- He left three sons, - one of whom was Haf's grandfather.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44- I knew my grandfather, - Evan Williams...

0:04:44 > 0:04:48- ..was brought up in - the Liverpool Arms in Menai Bridge.

0:04:48 > 0:04:52- He was raised by his mother - and his stepfather.

0:04:52 > 0:04:56- After his mother died, - his stepfather remarried.

0:04:56 > 0:04:59- But my grandfather - always emphasized...

0:04:59 > 0:05:03- ..that he'd had - a happy upbringing.

0:05:07 > 0:05:12- It was my grandfather's story that - inspired me to begin this journey...

0:05:12 > 0:05:17- ..but there are complexities - and gaps in the family tree.

0:05:17 > 0:05:21- I've reached a point - where I can't go any further.

0:05:21 > 0:05:25- One of the mysteries - is how William Williams...

0:05:25 > 0:05:28- ..came to be a publican - in Menai Bridge.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31- And what truth - is in the family tale...

0:05:31 > 0:05:36- ..that Haf's family ran Bryn - Hafod-y-Wern Quarry near Bethesda?

0:05:37 > 0:05:41- She hopes to fill in the gaps - at the National Library.

0:05:42 > 0:05:47- Perthyn has found a link between her - family and Bryn Hafod-y-Wern Farm...

0:05:47 > 0:05:50- ..a stone's throw from the quarry.

0:05:50 > 0:05:52- What else has come to light?

0:05:53 > 0:05:57- We know you've already started - researching your family history...

0:05:57 > 0:06:02- ..but can't go back further - than your great-grandfather.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04- But by checking parish records...

0:06:05 > 0:06:08- ..we've found that the first - of your relatives...

0:06:09 > 0:06:12- ..to live at Bryn Hafod-y-Wern - was William Philip...

0:06:12 > 0:06:14- ..a miller from Llanbeblig.

0:06:14 > 0:06:18- In 1761, he married - Mary Pritchard from Llanllechid.

0:06:19 > 0:06:21- They moved in to Bryn Hafod-y-Wern.

0:06:22 > 0:06:25- Very interesting. - That's going back many years.

0:06:26 > 0:06:27- So you didn't know that.

0:06:27 > 0:06:29- So you didn't know that.- - No, I knew nothing about that.

0:06:29 > 0:06:34- Perthyn has managed to trace - Haf's family tree back 300 years...

0:06:34 > 0:06:38- ..and six generations - to Bryn Hafod-y-Wern Farm...

0:06:39 > 0:06:42- ..where William Philip - and Mary Pritchard farmed.

0:06:44 > 0:06:47- Usually, - poor families such as yours...

0:06:47 > 0:06:50- ..wouldn't have left - any documentation behind.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53- But we've found one document...

0:06:53 > 0:06:56- ..from the Court of Great Sessions - in 1773.

0:06:56 > 0:07:01- The high court dealt - with the most serious crimes.

0:07:02 > 0:07:03- Oh, dear!

0:07:04 > 0:07:10- The document records that two girls - - Jane Owen and Catherine Jones...

0:07:10 > 0:07:12- ..were caught stealing clothes...

0:07:13 > 0:07:16- ..and selling them to Mary Pritchard - of Bryn Hafod-y-Wern.

0:07:17 > 0:07:21- This document records the testimony - of Jane Owen...

0:07:21 > 0:07:25- ..which shows that they stole...

0:07:25 > 0:07:28- ..three shirts, four cravats...

0:07:29 > 0:07:32- ..three pairs of stockings...

0:07:32 > 0:07:35- ..one large handkerchief - and one small one.

0:07:36 > 0:07:39- It goes on to say - that Mary Pritchard...

0:07:39 > 0:07:42- ..had encouraged them - to steal the goods...

0:07:43 > 0:07:46- ..and had pledged - to buy them from them.

0:07:47 > 0:07:51- She supplied the bullets - and the others fired them.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54- That's what this evidence suggests.

0:07:54 > 0:07:57- I'm sure I'll be ribbed about that.

0:08:00 > 0:08:04- During the 18th century, - thieves were severely punished.

0:08:04 > 0:08:07- Theft was as serious a crime - as murder.

0:08:07 > 0:08:11- With prisons overflowing, - from 1710 onwards...

0:08:11 > 0:08:14- ..the worst prisoners - were exiled to America...

0:08:15 > 0:08:17- ..and later to Australia.

0:08:20 > 0:08:24- What fate befell Mary Pritchard - and the two girls back in 1773?

0:08:25 > 0:08:27- After hearing - the pair's testimony...

0:08:28 > 0:08:31- ..we know that one of them...

0:08:32 > 0:08:33- ..was exiled for seven years.

0:08:34 > 0:08:37- What happened to Mary Pritchard?

0:08:37 > 0:08:41- Fortunately, - we have found another document...

0:08:42 > 0:08:44- ..which records Mary's verdict.

0:08:44 > 0:08:48- She's referred to here as Mary, - wife of William Philip.

0:08:49 > 0:08:51- She was found not guilty.

0:08:51 > 0:08:54- Thank goodness for that.

0:08:55 > 0:08:58- After the death of William Philip...

0:08:58 > 0:09:02- ..what happened - to Bryn Hafod-y-Wern Farm?

0:09:03 > 0:09:07- We've found a lease which shows - that following his death...

0:09:08 > 0:09:12- ..the farm was divided - between two of the sons.

0:09:12 > 0:09:16- The family - didn't actually own the farm.

0:09:17 > 0:09:18- Lord Penrhyn...

0:09:19 > 0:09:24- ..actually owned the farm - and the family were tenant farmers.

0:09:24 > 0:09:26- He does come into the story then.

0:09:26 > 0:09:30- This is the first reference - to link Bryn Hafod-y-Wern...

0:09:30 > 0:09:32- ..with Lord Penrhyn.

0:09:33 > 0:09:38- Perthyn has proved that Haf's family - farmed in the Llanllechid area...

0:09:38 > 0:09:41- ..more than two centuries ago...

0:09:41 > 0:09:43- ..and were tenants - to Lord Penrhyn...

0:09:44 > 0:09:49- ..who, in time, would have a major - influence on North Wales's quarries.

0:09:49 > 0:09:53- Haf returns - to her ancestors' birthplace.

0:09:57 > 0:09:59- It's hard to believe...

0:10:00 > 0:10:04- ..but I was a pupil at Llanllechid - primary school many years ago.

0:10:04 > 0:10:06- I always felt happy there.

0:10:06 > 0:10:08- It's strange going back...

0:10:09 > 0:10:13- ..to the same area - and having that same feeling.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16- I felt as though I belonged here...

0:10:16 > 0:10:20- ..but couldn't prove the link - until this research.

0:10:22 > 0:10:26- This is the first mention - of Lord Penrhyn in the story.

0:10:28 > 0:10:31- He's closely associated - with the Bethesda area.

0:10:32 > 0:10:37- Up to now, farming is the only - occupation that's been mentioned.

0:10:37 > 0:10:43- But knowing the connection Lord - Penrhyn had with the quarries...

0:10:43 > 0:10:45- ..I wonder if my family...

0:10:46 > 0:10:50- ..had a role - to play in the quarrying industry.

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0:11:07 > 0:11:11- Perthyn has traced - Haf Madoc Wilson's family tree...

0:11:11 > 0:11:15- ..back 250 years to - Bryn Hafod-y-Wern Farm, Bethesda...

0:11:15 > 0:11:19- ..a stone's throw - from Bryn Hafod-y-Wern quarry.

0:11:19 > 0:11:22- She's been led to believe - that her family ran it.

0:11:22 > 0:11:25- They were tenants of Lord Penrhyn.

0:11:25 > 0:11:29- Richard Pennant was the first - in a long line of lords...

0:11:29 > 0:11:32- ..who transformed - North Wales forever.

0:11:32 > 0:11:34- But as tenant farmers...

0:11:35 > 0:11:37- ..would Haf's family - have run the quarry?

0:11:38 > 0:11:42- Haf has come to Penrhyn Castle - to meet historian, Dr Dafydd Gwyn.

0:11:44 > 0:11:46- I understand that my family...

0:11:46 > 0:11:51- ..were tenants of Lord Penrhyn's - estate in the 18th century.

0:11:51 > 0:11:53- What sort of landlord was he?

0:11:54 > 0:11:56- Well, he was a man of his times.

0:11:56 > 0:11:59- Richard Pennant, - the first Lord Penrhyn...

0:12:00 > 0:12:02- ..was certainly an industrious man.

0:12:03 > 0:12:06- He constructed roads and railways - and opened quarries.

0:12:06 > 0:12:10- He built villages and homes - for farmhands and quarrymen.

0:12:10 > 0:12:13- He was a man of the new age.

0:12:13 > 0:12:18- He was more of a capitalist - than an old-fashioned landlord.

0:12:19 > 0:12:22- Lord Penrhyn - tried to acquire leaseholds...

0:12:22 > 0:12:25- ..and extend estates - across the valley...

0:12:26 > 0:12:28- ..to create one large estate.

0:12:28 > 0:12:33- The estate was growing during your - family's time at Bryn Hafod-y-Wern.

0:12:33 > 0:12:35- It's unlikely...

0:12:36 > 0:12:40- ..that a family such as yours - would have run a quarry.

0:12:40 > 0:12:43- Quarries were run by rich men.

0:12:43 > 0:12:46- Bankers and lords - such as Richard Pennant.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49- Local people - were given the opportunity...

0:12:49 > 0:12:54- ..to become stewards or managers - of a quarry and ordinary quarrymen.

0:12:55 > 0:12:57- But they didn't run larger quarries.

0:13:00 > 0:13:03- It's apparent that Haf's family - didn't run the quarry.

0:13:04 > 0:13:07- But is there any truth at all - to the family story...

0:13:07 > 0:13:10- ..linking them to the quarries?

0:13:11 > 0:13:17- The history of the North Wales slate - quarries is very much a part of us.

0:13:17 > 0:13:19- We're surrounded by them.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22- They've scarred our landscape.

0:13:23 > 0:13:27- Haf's family farmed this land - during a period of change.

0:13:27 > 0:13:32- The farming landscape changed - into an industrial landscape.

0:13:33 > 0:13:37- In the mid-18th century, a high - proportion of slate was produced.

0:13:38 > 0:13:42- A century later, the industry was - at its peak, employing 15,000 men.

0:13:45 > 0:13:47- The quarries of Penrhyn...

0:13:47 > 0:13:50- ..and Dinorwig - were the largest in the world.

0:13:51 > 0:13:54- Remnants of those days - can still be seen.

0:13:59 > 0:14:01- Hello, nice to meet you.

0:14:01 > 0:14:03- Welcome to the museum.

0:14:03 > 0:14:06- If Haf's family - didn't run the quarry...

0:14:07 > 0:14:11- ..was there any evidence to suggest - they were associated with it at all?

0:14:11 > 0:14:17- At the slate museum in Llanberis, - former quarryman, Peredur Hughes...

0:14:17 > 0:14:20- ..has found information - about Haf's family.

0:14:20 > 0:14:22- Could the mystery be solved?

0:14:24 > 0:14:26- Evidence has come to light...

0:14:27 > 0:14:30- ..proving that - your great-great-grandfather...

0:14:30 > 0:14:33- ..David Williams was a quarryman.

0:14:33 > 0:14:38- It's more than likely that he worked - at Bryn Hafod-y-Wern quarry.

0:14:38 > 0:14:41- The evidence has come about...

0:14:42 > 0:14:44- ..through the censuses.

0:14:44 > 0:14:46- This census...

0:14:46 > 0:14:50- ..from 1841...

0:14:50 > 0:14:55- ..records that David is a quarryman.

0:14:55 > 0:14:59- He's only 15 years old, - at such a young age.

0:14:59 > 0:15:04- There weren't many quarrymen - working at Bryn Hafod-y-Wern.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07- Probably, he came to work there...

0:15:08 > 0:15:10- ..because he lived so close - to the quarry.

0:15:11 > 0:15:13- That's where his career began.

0:15:13 > 0:15:18- He would have learned how to split - and chip the stone for roof tiles.

0:15:19 > 0:15:23- What kind of life - did the quarrymen lead?

0:15:23 > 0:15:26- David Williams - lived through hard times...

0:15:27 > 0:15:30- ..due to the working conditions - back then.

0:15:31 > 0:15:33- They were out in all weathers.

0:15:34 > 0:15:38- From what we know, - they would have worn sacks...

0:15:38 > 0:15:41- ..around their shoulders - to keep them dry.

0:15:41 > 0:15:46- The sack would've been coated - in goose fat or something similar...

0:15:46 > 0:15:52- ..to protect them from the rain, - the wet conditions and the wind.

0:15:52 > 0:15:56- The work of a quarryman - such as David Williams...

0:15:56 > 0:16:00- ..Haf's great-great-grandfather, - was dangerous and physical.

0:16:00 > 0:16:05- They would hang for hours from ropes - suspended over the rock face.

0:16:05 > 0:16:07- Working conditions were severe.

0:16:08 > 0:16:11- As well as being exposed - to the slate dust...

0:16:11 > 0:16:14- ..using dangerous tools - led to numerous accidents.

0:16:16 > 0:16:18- Over time, there were many deaths.

0:16:22 > 0:16:25- In 1821, Lord Penrhyn - sent more than 20 men...

0:16:25 > 0:16:27- ..from his quarry in Bethesda...

0:16:28 > 0:16:31- ..to start work - at Bryn Hafod-y-Wern quarry.

0:16:31 > 0:16:33- But their time there - was short-lived.

0:16:39 > 0:16:44- The running of Bryn Hafod-y-Wern - quarry was costly and problematic.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47- Slate had to be extracted - from deep within the seam.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50- Lord Penrhyn gave up on it...

0:16:50 > 0:16:56- ..allowing the Bangor Slate Company - to take it over in 1845.

0:16:58 > 0:17:02- It's most likely - that David Williams went there...

0:17:03 > 0:17:05- ..to work for this company.

0:17:05 > 0:17:08- The Bryn Hafod-y-Wern quarry...

0:17:08 > 0:17:12- ..was in competition - with Lord Penrhyn's quarries.

0:17:12 > 0:17:16- The slate and all the waste - had to be carried up the mountain...

0:17:17 > 0:17:21- ..because the land beneath - the quarry belonged to Penrhyn.

0:17:21 > 0:17:24- He did all he could - to make it difficult for them.

0:17:24 > 0:17:29- He cut off the water supply - that was essential to the quarry.

0:17:29 > 0:17:33- In the 1860s, - Bryn Hafod-y-Wern quarry closed.

0:17:39 > 0:17:43- Haf is visiting her ancestors' farm - for the first time.

0:17:44 > 0:17:47- From their home here - above Penrhyn Castle...

0:17:47 > 0:17:51- ..they would have witnessed - a period of great change...

0:17:51 > 0:17:56- ..as well as the dispute between the - lords of Penrhyn and the quarrymen.

0:18:04 > 0:18:08- Haf's family's connection - with Bryn Hafod-y-Wern Farm...

0:18:08 > 0:18:13- ..goes back six generations to - William Philip and Mary Pritchard.

0:18:13 > 0:18:19- Their grandson, David Williams, was - the first quarryman in the family.

0:18:21 > 0:18:23- Peredur - has more information about him.

0:18:25 > 0:18:28- Here we have - the birth certificate...

0:18:28 > 0:18:33- ..of David Williams's child, - William...

0:18:34 > 0:18:36- ..in 1856.

0:18:37 > 0:18:38- As you can see...

0:18:39 > 0:18:42- ..David is now a slate quarrier.

0:18:43 > 0:18:46- But unfortunately, - three years later...

0:18:46 > 0:18:50- ..we have the death certificate...

0:18:50 > 0:18:55- ..of David Williams - who died at the age of 37 years.

0:18:55 > 0:18:57- Did he die in an accident?

0:18:57 > 0:18:59- No, he died from an illness.

0:18:59 > 0:19:02- Unfortunately, it was TB.

0:19:02 > 0:19:04- How sad.

0:19:04 > 0:19:06- How sad.- - Yes, very sad.

0:19:07 > 0:19:10- Phthisis is the archaic term for TB.

0:19:11 > 0:19:14- Working in the slate dust - was damaging to the lungs.

0:19:14 > 0:19:17- By the 1920s, - more people died from TB...

0:19:18 > 0:19:21- ..in the quarrying villages - of North Wales...

0:19:21 > 0:19:25- ..than anywhere else - in southern Britain.

0:19:30 > 0:19:34- It's interesting to think - that the past was brought to life...

0:19:34 > 0:19:36- ..150 years ago.

0:19:36 > 0:19:39- Our ancestors' way of life.

0:19:40 > 0:19:43- It takes me back.

0:19:53 > 0:19:57- What I want to know now is - what happened to his wife, Grace...

0:19:58 > 0:19:59- ..and their children.

0:20:00 > 0:20:03- Why did William Williams, - my great-grandfather...

0:20:03 > 0:20:07- ..move to the Liverpool Arms - in Menai Bridge?

0:20:15 > 0:20:20- Will Perthyn have the answers - for Haf back at the slate museum?

0:20:28 > 0:20:31- What I have here - is the census of 1861.

0:20:31 > 0:20:35- It says Evan Hughes, Grace Williams.

0:20:35 > 0:20:38- This is my great-great-grandmother.

0:20:40 > 0:20:44- Therefore, it means - that after losing her husband...

0:20:44 > 0:20:48- ..Grace, in an age - where there was no welfare state...

0:20:48 > 0:20:52- ..had to go and live with her father - and her brother and sister...

0:20:52 > 0:20:54- ..and her two young sons.

0:20:55 > 0:20:59- Evan was three years old - and David was a year old.

0:21:00 > 0:21:03- But the other son, William, - was only five years old...

0:21:04 > 0:21:06- ..yet there is no mention of him - on this.

0:21:07 > 0:21:09- I wonder what happened to him.

0:21:14 > 0:21:17- In this document, - the census of 1861...

0:21:17 > 0:21:19- ..from Llanfairfechan...

0:21:20 > 0:21:25- ..there's a record of William Hughes - living in Castle Inn.

0:21:25 > 0:21:28- Head, married, 30 years old.

0:21:28 > 0:21:30- Publican.

0:21:30 > 0:21:34- And Anne, wife, 29 years old.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38- Then there's a William Williams, - nephew.

0:21:38 > 0:21:40- Five years old.

0:21:40 > 0:21:44- It's obvious my great-grandfather...

0:21:44 > 0:21:48- ..went to live - with his mother's brother.

0:21:49 > 0:21:52- With no means - of supporting her family...

0:21:52 > 0:21:55- ..Grace was dependent - on her relatives.

0:21:55 > 0:21:59- She sent her eldest son, - William Williams, to her brother.

0:22:00 > 0:22:04- Did William ever go back - to his brothers and mother, Grace?

0:22:04 > 0:22:06- This is the death certificate...

0:22:09 > 0:22:11- ..of Grace Williams.

0:22:11 > 0:22:13- She was 28 years old.

0:22:13 > 0:22:16- "Widow of David Williams, - slate quarrier.

0:22:17 > 0:22:18- "Typhoid fever."

0:22:19 > 0:22:21- It's very sad.

0:22:21 > 0:22:24- Poor dab.

0:22:27 > 0:22:33- Following the death of both parents, - the young boys were left orphaned.

0:22:33 > 0:22:38- The boys were separated and the link - with the quarries was severed.

0:22:38 > 0:22:40- William was raised by his uncle...

0:22:40 > 0:22:43- ..before running his own tavern - in Menai Bridge...

0:22:44 > 0:22:47- ..where Haf's grandfather - was brought up.

0:22:47 > 0:22:52- I could never understand how my - great-grandfather came to run a pub.

0:22:52 > 0:22:54- It was never mentioned...

0:22:54 > 0:22:58- ..because the family - is rather narrow-minded...

0:22:58 > 0:23:00- ..particularly my grandfather.

0:23:01 > 0:23:06- That explains the link with The - Liverpool Arms and Menai Bridge...

0:23:06 > 0:23:09- ..because he'd been brought up - in the business.

0:23:13 > 0:23:16- I feel closer to them now.

0:23:16 > 0:23:22- This research has helped me - bring my ancestors to life.

0:23:24 > 0:23:26- They're not just names to me - any more.

0:23:27 > 0:23:29- I feel as if I know them...

0:23:30 > 0:23:32- ..and they're - an important part of me.

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