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0:00:00 > 0:00:05- Tracing the family tree - is an obsession for Welsh people.
0:00:05 > 0:00:09- We like to ask where do you come - from, and to whom are you related.
0:00:09 > 0:00:12- In the National Library - at Aberystwyth...
0:00:12 > 0:00:16- ..the Perthyn team is investigating - some of your stories.
0:00:16 > 0:00:20- They've found some colourful - characters. Welcome to Perthyn.
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0:00:46 > 0:00:50- Two months ago, we invited you - to send us your family stories.
0:00:50 > 0:00:53- Since then, we've been inundated.
0:00:55 > 0:00:57- By delving into the archives...
0:00:58 > 0:01:01- ..the Perthyn team - has uncovered many a secret...
0:01:01 > 0:01:05- ..and the occasional black sheep - in your family trees.
0:01:07 > 0:01:10- This week, we're focusing - on Ceri Griffiths's story...
0:01:11 > 0:01:13- ..who hails from Carmarthenshire.
0:01:13 > 0:01:16- Ceri has been tracing - the Scurlock family.
0:01:16 > 0:01:20- I've come to meet him - to hear about his obsession.
0:01:20 > 0:01:22- You've lived in Cardiff - for ten years...
0:01:23 > 0:01:26- ..but you've travelled a great deal.
0:01:26 > 0:01:28- My father is to blame for that...
0:01:29 > 0:01:31- ..he's a policeman.
0:01:31 > 0:01:33- We've lived all over South Wales.
0:01:33 > 0:01:36- From Haverfordwest to Cwmbran...
0:01:36 > 0:01:40- ..and back to Rhydargaeau, - outside Carmarthen.
0:01:40 > 0:01:44- That's where I spent - most of my childhood.
0:01:44 > 0:01:47- Were you inspired - to trace your family tree...
0:01:47 > 0:01:50- ..as a result of living away - from your family roots?
0:01:51 > 0:01:53- I had no interest as a child.
0:01:53 > 0:01:55- I never listened - to my grandmother...
0:01:56 > 0:02:00- ..who went on and on about - having relatives here and there.
0:02:00 > 0:02:03- When I used to cycle past - these farms as a child...
0:02:03 > 0:02:07- ..I didn't realize - my relatives used to live there.
0:02:07 > 0:02:13- But lately, I've been researching - my family to find out more.
0:02:13 > 0:02:15- We have two daughters.
0:02:15 > 0:02:18- Mam-gu is no longer with us.
0:02:18 > 0:02:21- I regret not asking her - more about it.
0:02:22 > 0:02:27- I hope I'll be able to find out more - details to pass on to my daughters.
0:02:27 > 0:02:31- You've started your own research, - but there are a few gaps.
0:02:31 > 0:02:36- It all stems from one story that - Mam-gu told us about three girls...
0:02:36 > 0:02:39- ..who were orphaned at a young age.
0:02:39 > 0:02:42- I want to know what became of them.
0:02:42 > 0:02:44- How far have you got?
0:02:45 > 0:02:48- By researching my side - of the Scurlock family...
0:02:48 > 0:02:52- ..I also discovered - a wealthy branch of Scurlocks.
0:02:52 > 0:02:57- I want to find out if I'm related - to this other Scurlock family...
0:02:57 > 0:03:00- ..but I've hit a brick wall - and can't go any further.
0:03:01 > 0:03:03- I hope you can help me find - this connection.
0:03:04 > 0:03:07- And I'm sure you fancy making - some money out of it!
0:03:07 > 0:03:09- Who knows!
0:03:13 > 0:03:16- Ceri often returns to - the Carmarthen area...
0:03:16 > 0:03:19- ..to try and fill in the blanks - in his family tree.
0:03:22 > 0:03:26- The surname Scurlock is unusual, so - it's been a help in his research.
0:03:27 > 0:03:29- It's an Irish name...
0:03:29 > 0:03:31- ..from the Norman period.
0:03:31 > 0:03:35- The first record of Scurlocks - in Carmarthen...
0:03:35 > 0:03:37- ..dates back to the 16th century.
0:03:39 > 0:03:42- From what I've read - about the wealthy Scurlocks...
0:03:42 > 0:03:44- ..they were important people.
0:03:45 > 0:03:48- Jonathan Scurlock - was the town's sheriff in the 1670s.
0:03:49 > 0:03:51- But Mary Scurlock - is the most famous of them.
0:03:52 > 0:03:56- She married the poet and writer, - Sir Richard Steele.
0:03:56 > 0:04:00- Their child married into - Lady Diana Spencer's family.
0:04:00 > 0:04:03- It would be nice - to be related to them...
0:04:03 > 0:04:07- ..so that I had some kind of - connection with the royal family.
0:04:10 > 0:04:13- The Perthyn team - has a challenge ahead of them.
0:04:13 > 0:04:15- As well as a renowned poet...
0:04:15 > 0:04:19- ..Mary Scurlock was famous - among London's glitterati.
0:04:19 > 0:04:23- She's buried in the prestigious - Poets' Corner in Westminster Abbey.
0:04:24 > 0:04:29- However, many of her noble family - are buried here in Carmarthen.
0:04:30 > 0:04:34- The Scurlocks came to - St Peter's Church in Carmarthen.
0:04:34 > 0:04:37- They apparently donated - a lot of money...
0:04:37 > 0:04:40- ..and many of them are buried here.
0:04:40 > 0:04:44- There's a memorial plaque - to Sir Richard Steele...
0:04:44 > 0:04:47- ..and Jonathan Scurlock, - Mary's father.
0:04:47 > 0:04:51- They are listed here - among Carmarthen's dignitaries.
0:04:51 > 0:04:53- I'd love to discover a link...
0:04:53 > 0:04:58- ..between the two branches - of the Scurlock family.
0:04:58 > 0:05:02- But I've failed to find a - connection linking both families.
0:05:05 > 0:05:09- Ceri knows that his branch - of the Scurlock family...
0:05:10 > 0:05:13- ..came from Rhydargaeau - near Carmarthen.
0:05:13 > 0:05:16- The place holds happy memories - of his grandmother.
0:05:17 > 0:05:21- Although the name Scurlock can be - traced to his father's side...
0:05:21 > 0:05:24- ..the interest lies with Ceri - and his mother.
0:05:25 > 0:05:28- It's only when members of your - family start passing away...
0:05:29 > 0:05:33- ..you realize that the family's - history goes with them.
0:05:33 > 0:05:36- I think that's when Ceri...
0:05:36 > 0:05:39- ..became interested - in family history.
0:05:39 > 0:05:44- He wanted the information - to pass on to his children.
0:05:44 > 0:05:48- Ceri would phone late at night - and ask, "Who comes from here?
0:05:48 > 0:05:53- "Who was married to so-and-so?" - In the end, he hit a brick wall.
0:05:53 > 0:05:56- He didn't know which way to turn - and who to ask next.
0:05:56 > 0:05:59- William Henry - doesn't look too happy.
0:05:59 > 0:06:02- He was surrounded by women, - that's why.
0:06:02 > 0:06:04- Yes, I know how he feels!
0:06:04 > 0:06:06- Yes, I know how he feels!- - Exactly.
0:06:06 > 0:06:09- Mam-gu always talked about - the three sisters...
0:06:10 > 0:06:12- ..who lived on Pentresite Farm.
0:06:12 > 0:06:15- One of them - was my great-great-grandmother.
0:06:16 > 0:06:20- I don't know much about her - or her two sisters...
0:06:20 > 0:06:24- ..apart from the fact that they had - lost their parents at a young age.
0:06:26 > 0:06:30- I was born a couple of miles - up the road in Rhydargaeau.
0:06:30 > 0:06:32- I used to cycle all around here.
0:06:33 > 0:06:36- I'd cycle up the hill - and back down again.
0:06:36 > 0:06:38- Mam-gu often mentioned the farms.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42- Llainffynnon, Waungaled - and Pentresite.
0:06:42 > 0:06:45- It's a very different upbringing...
0:06:45 > 0:06:49- ..from that of the wealthy Scurlocks - in Carmarthen town.
0:06:53 > 0:06:57- When I started tracing - the Scurlock family tree...
0:06:57 > 0:07:00- ..Mam suggested I come to - Horeb chapel...
0:07:00 > 0:07:03- ..where many of the Scurlock family - are buried.
0:07:03 > 0:07:06- I hoped I'd discover - more information.
0:07:08 > 0:07:12- The first time I came, - this gravestone was facing down.
0:07:12 > 0:07:18- But I can now see it's the grave of - David Scurlock, the girls' father.
0:07:19 > 0:07:23- There are many more Scurlocks - buried here. So, who are they?
0:07:23 > 0:07:26- How do they fit into the family?
0:07:26 > 0:07:31- Ceri's family farmed in Rhydargaeau - in the parish of Llanllawddog...
0:07:31 > 0:07:33- ..over 150 years ago.
0:07:33 > 0:07:37- His grandmother's story - about the three sisters...
0:07:37 > 0:07:39- ..was his inspiration.
0:07:39 > 0:07:44- Rachel, Hannah and Lettice, - his great-great-grandmother...
0:07:44 > 0:07:46- ..were the daughters - of David and Mary...
0:07:47 > 0:07:49- ..who were left orphaned.
0:07:49 > 0:07:54- Ceri wants to know what happened to - them after they lost their parents.
0:07:54 > 0:07:57- Who came to look after them - on the farm?
0:07:57 > 0:08:01- He's come to the National Library - to find the answers.
0:08:04 > 0:08:08- If we look here - at the Llanllawddog census...
0:08:08 > 0:08:11- ..from 1871...
0:08:11 > 0:08:16- ..you can see that David and Mary - lived there with three girls.
0:08:16 > 0:08:18- Rachel and Ann...
0:08:18 > 0:08:21- ..otherwise known as Hannah.
0:08:21 > 0:08:27- But if you look here, you'll notice - another daughter, Eliza, who's 13.
0:08:28 > 0:08:33- Your great-great grandmother Lettice - hadn't yet been born.
0:08:33 > 0:08:38- What's interesting is the fact - that Eliza Scurlock is 13...
0:08:38 > 0:08:40- ..and Rachel is five.
0:08:40 > 0:08:45- There's a bit of an age gap between - the two, which got me thinking.
0:08:46 > 0:08:50- I searched for David and Mary's - marriage certificate.
0:08:50 > 0:08:52- They married in 1865.
0:08:53 > 0:08:55- If you do the maths...
0:08:55 > 0:08:57- ..you'll spot that Eliza - is much too old.
0:08:58 > 0:09:00- So, she's an illegitimate child.
0:09:01 > 0:09:03- Oh, right.
0:09:06 > 0:09:09- The 1861 census - confirms that Eliza...
0:09:09 > 0:09:12- ..or Elizabeth, - lived with her mother, Mary...
0:09:12 > 0:09:17- ..and her grandfather, John Thomas, - at Llainffynnon, Rhydargaeau.
0:09:17 > 0:09:20- Mary was unmarried at the time.
0:09:21 > 0:09:25- Within four years, - she married David Scurlock.
0:09:25 > 0:09:27- Together they had three daughters.
0:09:27 > 0:09:31- But in 1875, both died from TB.
0:09:33 > 0:09:36- Eliza became a servant - on a local farm...
0:09:37 > 0:09:40- ..but the three sisters, - all under 10 years old...
0:09:40 > 0:09:43- ..were left orphaned - at Pentresite Farm.
0:09:44 > 0:09:46- We've discovered what happened next.
0:09:46 > 0:09:49- We've found the census from 1881.
0:09:49 > 0:09:54- From this, we can tell - that they still lived at Pentresite.
0:09:54 > 0:09:58- Hannah and Lettice...
0:09:58 > 0:10:00- ..are still there.
0:10:00 > 0:10:05- Eliza and Rachel had left - to work as servants on local farms.
0:10:05 > 0:10:07- It's interesting to see...
0:10:07 > 0:10:12- ..that the head of the family - was a female called Elizabeth Lewis.
0:10:13 > 0:10:16- She's noted as being a servant - taking care of children.
0:10:17 > 0:10:20- So, she was the one - looking after the children.
0:10:20 > 0:10:24- A man called Henry Evans - who was 19...
0:10:24 > 0:10:28- ..most probably looked after - the farm...
0:10:28 > 0:10:32- ..when the children were small - to make sure it functioned.
0:10:34 > 0:10:38- It's hard to believe - that those three girls...
0:10:38 > 0:10:42- ..were thrust into that situation - at such a young age.
0:10:42 > 0:10:45- It's a pity - they had no family support.
0:10:45 > 0:10:47- There were other Scurlocks - in the area.
0:10:48 > 0:10:52- If that happened to me and our - daughters were left behind...
0:10:52 > 0:10:57- ..I'd like to think that the family - would rally around...
0:10:57 > 0:11:00- ..and come to look after them - and help them.
0:11:01 > 0:11:04- What did they do for money - at Pentresite?
0:11:04 > 0:11:08- They must have continued - to run the farm in some way.
0:11:08 > 0:11:12- Someone was paying Elizabeth Lewis - to look after them.
0:11:12 > 0:11:14- We're not sure who.
0:11:16 > 0:11:18- To find out what happened next...
0:11:18 > 0:11:22- ..let's move on to 1901.
0:11:22 > 0:11:24- Only Hannah lived on the farm.
0:11:24 > 0:11:28- Henry Evans - was the head of the household.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32- He had married Hannah.
0:11:32 > 0:11:37- So, Hannah married Henry who looked - after the farm when she was small.
0:11:37 > 0:11:41- They started a family - and farmed Pentresite together.
0:11:45 > 0:11:47- I didn't expect that at all.
0:11:47 > 0:11:50- There were actually four sisters, - not three.
0:11:50 > 0:11:55- Mam-gu hadn't mentioned her. - Perhaps she didn't know.
0:11:55 > 0:11:59- Then, the parents died - and none of the family came to help.
0:11:59 > 0:12:01- I find that a little strange.
0:12:01 > 0:12:06- Now I know this much, I still need - one major question answered.
0:12:06 > 0:12:11- Is my branch of the Scurlock family - related to the royal Scurlocks?
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0:12:27 > 0:12:30- Ceri Griffiths - is obsessed with his family tree.
0:12:30 > 0:12:34- He's trying to discover - if his branch of Scurlocks...
0:12:34 > 0:12:37- ..are related to - the royal Scurlocks...
0:12:37 > 0:12:40- ..who came from the same line - as Princess Diana.
0:12:41 > 0:12:44- Ceri has traced his family - back five generations...
0:12:45 > 0:12:48- ..to David and Mary Scurlock - of Pentresite Farm...
0:12:49 > 0:12:52- ..who died, - leaving four daughters behind.
0:12:52 > 0:12:56- But Perthyn has managed to go back - another two generations...
0:12:56 > 0:12:59- ..to John Scurlock - of Rhydyrhaw Farm.
0:13:00 > 0:13:03- While trying to connect - Ceri's Scurlocks...
0:13:03 > 0:13:08- ..to the royal Scurlocks, - Jason has found an important will...
0:13:08 > 0:13:10- ..from 1803.
0:13:10 > 0:13:14- The will of Jane Scurlock, - John Scurlock's sister-in-law.
0:13:15 > 0:13:17- Could there be further clues?
0:13:17 > 0:13:20- One part of the will - makes interesting reading.
0:13:21 > 0:13:24- Right here, it says, - "I give and bequeath...
0:13:24 > 0:13:28- "..to the trustees - of the dissenting meeting house...
0:13:28 > 0:13:31- "..in Lammas Street, Carmarthen...
0:13:31 > 0:13:34- "..the sum of 10 in trust - to be paid out by them...
0:13:34 > 0:13:39- "..towards the support - of the dissenting interests...
0:13:39 > 0:13:43- "..of the independent persuasions - at Abergwili...
0:13:43 > 0:13:47- "..or towards building - a meeting house at Abergwili...
0:13:47 > 0:13:50- "..should that ever take place."
0:13:52 > 0:13:56- I have even more questions to ask - about the family now...
0:13:56 > 0:13:58- ..instead of answers.
0:14:00 > 0:14:04- I don't even know - what a dissenting meeting house is.
0:14:07 > 0:14:11- Before 1689, religious worship - in a chapel was illegal.
0:14:12 > 0:14:14- Religion was monopolized - by the Church.
0:14:15 > 0:14:19- Nonconformists who rejected - the Church were known as dissenters.
0:14:20 > 0:14:23- They were forced to worship - in secret...
0:14:23 > 0:14:27- ..in remote locations like Pant-teg - in the parish of Abergwili.
0:14:27 > 0:14:31- This is one of Carmarthenshire's - oldest chapels.
0:14:31 > 0:14:35- Under the nose of - the Bishop of St David's Palace...
0:14:35 > 0:14:40- ..worshippers jeopardized their - lives by renouncing the Church.
0:14:40 > 0:14:44- But in 1689, the act of worshipping - in a chapel was made legal.
0:14:45 > 0:14:49- The nonconformist tradition - continues in Wales to this day.
0:14:49 > 0:14:54- The headmistress said, "Children, - I want you to close your eyes...
0:14:54 > 0:14:56- "..for you to see..."
0:14:56 > 0:15:01- Ceri's relative, Jane Scurlock, - was among the earliest worshippers.
0:15:02 > 0:15:06- She left a considerable amount of - money to support the construction...
0:15:07 > 0:15:09- ..of more chapels in Abergwili.
0:15:11 > 0:15:16- Ceri has been hearing more about - the background from Dr Eryn White.
0:15:16 > 0:15:19- She may have new information - about his family.
0:15:20 > 0:15:22- I've seen Jane Scurlock's will.
0:15:22 > 0:15:26- She left money for the construction - of a chapel in Abergwili.
0:15:27 > 0:15:29- How common would that have been?
0:15:29 > 0:15:33- The nonconformists - relied on wealthy members.
0:15:33 > 0:15:36- They didn't have the tithe - like the Church did.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39- Some people did leave money - in their wills.
0:15:40 > 0:15:44- It was often the wealthiest members - who contributed.
0:15:44 > 0:15:49- It's interesting that it happened - more than once in your family.
0:15:49 > 0:15:52- We came across a record - of John Scurlock...
0:15:53 > 0:15:58- ..in the historical tomes - of the Welsh independent churches.
0:15:58 > 0:16:03- Back in 1746, John Scurlock provided - the land for the construction of...
0:16:03 > 0:16:05- ..Bwlchnewydd chapel - in Carmarthenshire.
0:16:06 > 0:16:12- His contribution made it possible - for the chapel to be built.
0:16:14 > 0:16:19- It was Jane Scurlock who funded the - building of a chapel in Abergwili.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22- That was very risky for her...
0:16:23 > 0:16:27- ..because the Bishop of St David's - Palace was located there.
0:16:27 > 0:16:30- It was built - right under the bishop's nose.
0:16:31 > 0:16:35- Some of your family members - belonged to that pioneering age...
0:16:35 > 0:16:38- ..before nonconformity - became fashionable.
0:16:38 > 0:16:41- They were already forging ahead.
0:16:41 > 0:16:43- They were already forging ahead.- - In memory of me.
0:16:48 > 0:16:52- Ceri has been shocked - by his family's contribution...
0:16:52 > 0:16:56- ..to the rise - of Carmarthen's chapels.
0:16:56 > 0:17:00- He still hopes to find a connection - linking him to the royal Scurlocks.
0:17:01 > 0:17:04- The team has been trawling through - the archives...
0:17:05 > 0:17:09- ..to try and find the missing link - between the two families.
0:17:10 > 0:17:15- The Scurlocks' family tree has - caused problems for many historians.
0:17:15 > 0:17:20- Perthyn is still trying to find out - if Ceri is of royal descent.
0:17:23 > 0:17:27- Back in Pant-teg, Eryn might have - more information for him.
0:17:27 > 0:17:32- It appears that my branch of the - Scurlock family were chapel-goers.
0:17:32 > 0:17:35- But what about the wealthy Scurlocks - from Carmarthen?
0:17:36 > 0:17:37- There are two sides here.
0:17:38 > 0:17:41- Carmarthen was an interesting town - at the time.
0:17:41 > 0:17:44- It was important for commerce.
0:17:44 > 0:17:47- It was known - as the London of Wales...
0:17:47 > 0:17:51- ..because it held so many dances - and horse races...
0:17:51 > 0:17:53- ..for the nobility who lived there.
0:17:53 > 0:17:56- It was also an important town - for the Church.
0:17:57 > 0:18:00- Until 1828, - in order to hold a public post...
0:18:00 > 0:18:03- ..a person had to be a churchman.
0:18:03 > 0:18:07- You couldn't hold a government post - if you were a nonconformist...
0:18:08 > 0:18:11- ..and neither could you hold - a public role.
0:18:11 > 0:18:16- There might have been an element - of conflict in the family...
0:18:16 > 0:18:19- ..if some of them - became nonconformists.
0:18:20 > 0:18:26- It's possible that something - similar happened to the Scurlocks.
0:18:26 > 0:18:32- One branch might have continued to - be a respectable clan in Carmarthen.
0:18:32 > 0:18:36- The others might have been rebels - and joined the nonconformists.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40- It's possible they lost contact - over the years.
0:18:43 > 0:18:45- What Eryn said made sense.
0:18:45 > 0:18:49- Our family could have broken away - from the wealthy family...
0:18:49 > 0:18:53- ..and became two separate - branches of the same family.
0:18:53 > 0:18:56- But I'm still troubled - by one question.
0:18:59 > 0:19:01- Hello, Ceri.
0:19:01 > 0:19:05- Arwel Jones from the Perthyn team - has asked me to meet him.
0:19:05 > 0:19:08- I have no idea what to expect.
0:19:08 > 0:19:11- I'm sure you're expecting an answer.
0:19:11 > 0:19:16- I know that searching for ties - with the Scurlock family...
0:19:17 > 0:19:19- ..has been driving you mad.
0:19:19 > 0:19:23- It's the one thing you need - to find out about your family.
0:19:23 > 0:19:27- Family history - can be a very exciting thing.
0:19:27 > 0:19:30- It can also be - an enriching experience.
0:19:30 > 0:19:34- Tracing your family tree can also - be a frustrating experience...
0:19:35 > 0:19:38- ..because, sometimes, - the trail goes cold.
0:19:38 > 0:19:40- Unfortunately, in this case...
0:19:41 > 0:19:44- ..we've failed to establish - a connection...
0:19:45 > 0:19:47- ..between your branch - and the royal branch.
0:19:48 > 0:19:52- It doesn't mean that the experts - don't believe there's truth in it.
0:19:53 > 0:19:55- It's most likely - that a connection exists...
0:19:55 > 0:19:58- ..between two families - with such an unusual name.
0:19:59 > 0:20:03- But if you asked me for evidence - to prove the connection...
0:20:03 > 0:20:07- ..I'm afraid - I'd have to disappoint you.
0:20:11 > 0:20:15- The Perthyn team only traced Ceri's - family back to the 18th century.
0:20:16 > 0:20:21- The trail comes to an end with David - Scurlock, Machelws Farm, Abergwili.
0:20:21 > 0:20:26- The connection between the two - Scurlock families remains a mystery.
0:20:28 > 0:20:32- But the research has revealed - another member of the family.
0:20:32 > 0:20:37- Perthyn has found a descendent of - the Scurlock sisters at Pentresite.
0:20:37 > 0:20:39- It's a surprise for Ceri.
0:20:39 > 0:20:42- He has no idea who he's meeting.
0:20:46 > 0:20:48- Hello. How are you?
0:20:48 > 0:20:52- You don't know me - but I'm the grandson of Hannah...
0:20:52 > 0:20:54- ..the second of the three sisters.
0:20:54 > 0:20:58- My grandfather - was the first bailiff on the farm...
0:20:58 > 0:21:01- ..who married the second sister.
0:21:01 > 0:21:03- Oh, now I know who you are!
0:21:06 > 0:21:09- I didn't think there were any more - family members left.
0:21:10 > 0:21:14- I didn't know - there was still family in the area.
0:21:14 > 0:21:18- From what I've read - and from what I've heard...
0:21:18 > 0:21:21- ..the three sisters were orphaned...
0:21:21 > 0:21:24- ..because their mother had died.
0:21:25 > 0:21:29- The mother's brother had come - down from Porth in the Rhondda...
0:21:29 > 0:21:31- ..to make arrangements for them.
0:21:32 > 0:21:35- He bought Pentresite - for the three girls...
0:21:36 > 0:21:38- ..so that they had a home.
0:21:38 > 0:21:40- Thomas Thomas...
0:21:41 > 0:21:43- ..was a wealthy man.
0:21:43 > 0:21:47- He had shops in Porth and Ystrad - in the Rhondda.
0:21:47 > 0:21:50- He provided great support to them.
0:21:53 > 0:21:55- Because there was no-one - to care for them...
0:21:56 > 0:22:00- ..a 19-year-old bailiff was - appointed to look after the farm.
0:22:00 > 0:22:04- He then found an experienced woman - to bring up the girls.
0:22:07 > 0:22:11- That's my grandmother, Hannah Evans.
0:22:12 > 0:22:15- And that's my grandfather - with the plough.
0:22:15 > 0:22:19- Thomas Thomas - paid for the farm outright.
0:22:19 > 0:22:22- Later, - in seven or eight years' time...
0:22:23 > 0:22:27- ..my grandfather bought the farm - from Thomas Thomas.
0:22:28 > 0:22:31- Do you know where Rachel went? - She left Pentresite.
0:22:31 > 0:22:36- Yes, Rachel went to a farm called - Llainffynnon next door.
0:22:36 > 0:22:38- The third sister...
0:22:38 > 0:22:42- ..went to live on a farm - in Llanllawddog.
0:22:44 > 0:22:47- So, the family lived - in close proximity to one another.
0:22:51 > 0:22:56- The story begins with the three - sisters being left orphaned.
0:22:56 > 0:23:00- It's nice to discover that - everything turned out well...
0:23:00 > 0:23:03- ..because of this uncle - from the Rhondda...
0:23:03 > 0:23:07- ..who hired the housemaid - and bailiff to care for them.
0:23:08 > 0:23:10- The geese were kept there.
0:23:10 > 0:23:13- But David, the grandson - of Hannah and Henry...
0:23:14 > 0:23:17- ..knew nothing about - the fourth sister.
0:23:17 > 0:23:19- Mam-gu never mentioned her either.
0:23:23 > 0:23:28- But I'm sure she'd be happy to know - that the family had helped them...
0:23:28 > 0:23:31- ..and that everything - worked out well in the end.
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