Angharad a Megan Phillips

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0:00:00 > 0:00:02- I'm Trystan Ellis-Morris.

0:00:02 > 0:00:07- Today, I've come to Denbigh - to meet two very special sisters.

0:00:07 > 0:00:08- Welcome to Perthyn.

0:00:33 > 0:00:36- Angharad and Megan Phillips - are twins...

0:00:36 > 0:00:41- ..and they've made a name for - themselves as table tennis players.

0:00:47 > 0:00:48- I'm Angharad.

0:00:48 > 0:00:50- I'm Angharad.- - And I'm Megan.

0:00:53 > 0:00:58- We're both 21 years old, but I'm - older than Angharad by one minute.

0:01:03 > 0:01:08- We got a table tennis table as a - Christmas present when we were ten.

0:01:09 > 0:01:10- We now play for Wales.

0:01:10 > 0:01:15- We represented our country in the - 2010 Commonwealth Games in India...

0:01:15 > 0:01:18- ..and in the - 2014 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow.

0:01:22 > 0:01:25- Angharad and Megan, - you're university students.

0:01:26 > 0:01:27- Where do you study?

0:01:28 > 0:01:32- We're in our first year at Durham - studying Sociology.

0:01:32 > 0:01:34- Do you live together?

0:01:35 > 0:01:40- We live in the same college, but - there are 200 people in one college.

0:01:40 > 0:01:42- We see each other a lot...

0:01:42 > 0:01:46- ..but it's not as if - we live in a house together.

0:01:47 > 0:01:49- How often do you see each other?

0:01:49 > 0:01:55- We're doing the same course, so we - see each other at every lecture...

0:01:55 > 0:01:59- ..but we have a different group - of friends and that's a good thing.

0:02:00 > 0:02:02- It's nice - to spend a bit of time apart.

0:02:07 > 0:02:12- How much training do you do - for your table tennis?

0:02:12 > 0:02:16- Before we went to university, - we played all the time.

0:02:16 > 0:02:20- We played twice a day - and we went to the gym too.

0:02:20 > 0:02:24- Now that we're studying too, - we try to train whenever we can.

0:02:26 > 0:02:30- What sort of thing do you do - in training?

0:02:30 > 0:02:34- We usually train at the table, - so we work on different shots.

0:02:37 > 0:02:42- We also go to the gym - to work on our fitness...

0:02:43 > 0:02:44- ..and on our strength.

0:02:52 > 0:02:54- How popular is table tennis?

0:02:56 > 0:02:58- Not many Welsh people play...

0:02:58 > 0:03:03- ..but table tennis is the second - most popular sport in the world...

0:03:03 > 0:03:06- ..because so many Asians play it.

0:03:06 > 0:03:11- Hopefully, a lot more British people - will play one day.

0:03:11 > 0:03:14- How exactly do the rankings work?

0:03:14 > 0:03:17- It depends who you beat - in competitions.

0:03:18 > 0:03:23- The points you gain depend - on your opponent's world ranking.

0:03:23 > 0:03:27- At the moment, Megan is ranked - slightly higher than me...

0:03:27 > 0:03:29- ..and that's no fun at all!

0:03:30 > 0:03:32- I can work on that.

0:03:32 > 0:03:35- What are your current rankings?

0:03:35 > 0:03:40- I'm ranked number three in Wales - and Angharad is number four. Sorry!

0:03:40 > 0:03:42- Ooh!

0:03:42 > 0:03:45- I'm not sure - what my world ranking is...

0:03:45 > 0:03:47- ..but it's around 400 or 500.

0:03:52 > 0:03:56- Megan is a minute older than me, - but I don't see her as a big sister.

0:03:56 > 0:03:58- I don't let her boss me around.

0:03:58 > 0:04:00- I see her more as a friend.

0:04:03 > 0:04:07- I like spending time with Megan - because she's funny...

0:04:07 > 0:04:10- ..and she's kind, most of the time!

0:04:11 > 0:04:16- Megan, I'm sure you and Angharad - are always interviewed as a pair.

0:04:16 > 0:04:20- Is it sometimes nice to find some - peace and quiet in your bedroom?

0:04:21 > 0:04:23- Yes, it's nice to find some peace.

0:04:23 > 0:04:27- We do a lot together, but I do enjoy - being alone sometimes.

0:04:28 > 0:04:30- Tell me about your hobbies.

0:04:30 > 0:04:34- What do you enjoy doing beside - studying and playing table tennis?

0:04:35 > 0:04:40- I like several different sports - such as netball and hockey.

0:04:40 > 0:04:43- The two of us like football too.

0:04:43 > 0:04:47- I watch a lot of sport on TV - and I like watching films.

0:04:47 > 0:04:50- I also enjoy - socializing with my friends.

0:04:52 > 0:04:55- You celebrated your 21st birthday - a few months ago.

0:04:55 > 0:04:59- Yes, and it was nice - to celebrate with the family.

0:04:59 > 0:05:02- Mam and Dad organized - an amazing trip for us...

0:05:03 > 0:05:05- ..to watch Italy - play Wales at rugby.

0:05:05 > 0:05:07- That was an amazing trip.

0:05:07 > 0:05:10- Are you as keen on rugby - as those other sports?

0:05:11 > 0:05:15- We both really like rugby - and we love to watch Wales playing.

0:05:22 > 0:05:24- The little teddy up there...

0:05:25 > 0:05:28- ..bears the legend - 2001 National Eisteddfod.

0:05:29 > 0:05:32- Does that mean - you competed in eisteddfodau?

0:05:32 > 0:05:36- Yes, especially - when we were at junior school.

0:05:36 > 0:05:41- We were part of a recitation group - and we competed in gymnastics too.

0:05:43 > 0:05:47- You've been used to competing - from a young age.

0:05:48 > 0:05:54- Yes. We had the same interests and - we're naturally competitive people.

0:05:54 > 0:05:56- We competed as a pair too.

0:05:57 > 0:06:00- Is one of you - more competitive than the other?

0:06:01 > 0:06:04- No, I'd say that - we're both extremely competitive.

0:06:05 > 0:06:08- You both want to win - and that's the way it should be.

0:06:13 > 0:06:16- You're similar in many ways...

0:06:17 > 0:06:21- ..but your taste in music and films - is quite different.

0:06:22 > 0:06:25- Yes, we're very different - when it comes to music.

0:06:25 > 0:06:28- I like a lot of rock music...

0:06:28 > 0:06:33- ..but Angharad - likes 1980s and 1970s music.

0:06:33 > 0:06:37- Do you argue about music - when you travel to and from Durham?

0:06:37 > 0:06:40- Yes. We never want to listen - to each other's music.

0:06:41 > 0:06:42- It can be a bit awkward!

0:06:46 > 0:06:49- Other than your taste in music...

0:06:49 > 0:06:53- ..is there anything else - which really sets you apart?

0:06:54 > 0:06:57- Is there a really big difference - between you?

0:06:57 > 0:07:00- I'm more laid-back than Angharad...

0:07:00 > 0:07:03- ..but she wouldn't be happy - to hear me say that!

0:07:03 > 0:07:06- Maybe that's the main difference.

0:07:06 > 0:07:08- I'm a bit more laid-back.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11- Megan says - she's more laid-back than you.

0:07:11 > 0:07:12- Oh!

0:07:13 > 0:07:14- Is that true?

0:07:14 > 0:07:16- Is that true?- - I don't know. Maybe.

0:07:16 > 0:07:19- If I'm being honest...

0:07:19 > 0:07:23- ..she copes better than me - in a crisis.

0:07:23 > 0:07:27- I get in more of a panic - than she does, unfortunately.

0:07:27 > 0:07:31- Our personalities - are pretty similar.

0:07:31 > 0:07:35- I may be slightly more sarcastic - than her at times.

0:07:38 > 0:07:42- Table tennis took up most of - our time when we were growing up...

0:07:42 > 0:07:48- ..but now we're at university, - we have time to do different things.

0:07:48 > 0:07:52- Meg has done more sports, - like netball and hockey...

0:07:53 > 0:07:55- ..and I've taken an interest - in drama.

0:07:56 > 0:08:00- It's strange to see how we've - developed different interests...

0:08:00 > 0:08:05- ..even though we shared the same - experiences when we were growing up.

0:08:05 > 0:08:08- What aspect of drama attracts you?

0:08:08 > 0:08:10- Acting and performing?

0:08:10 > 0:08:14- In a sense, you have to perform - when you play table tennis.

0:08:15 > 0:08:17- Yes, it's similar in a way.

0:08:17 > 0:08:21- I've played table tennis - in front of hundreds of people...

0:08:21 > 0:08:23- ..at the Commonwealth Games.

0:08:24 > 0:08:27- I also enjoy being on stage - in front of lots of people.

0:08:28 > 0:08:33- Do the people in your drama classes - know about your background?

0:08:33 > 0:08:38- Do they know about your huge success - in the table tennis world?

0:08:39 > 0:08:41- They found out in dribs and drabs.

0:08:42 > 0:08:44- They had no idea when I joined...

0:08:44 > 0:08:49- ..and it was nice to do - something different with new people.

0:08:49 > 0:08:52- The best thing - about going to university...

0:08:52 > 0:08:56- ..is being able to try new things.

0:09:00 > 0:09:04- This is where you train - when you're at home.

0:09:04 > 0:09:07- This room could tell some stories!

0:09:07 > 0:09:13- Yes, this is where I took - my first-ever table tennis shot.

0:09:13 > 0:09:17- I thought you had to serve - like you do in tennis...

0:09:17 > 0:09:19- ..so the ball shot across the room!

0:09:20 > 0:09:24- You'd never have imagined - I'd end up playing for Wales!

0:09:24 > 0:09:27- We've spent a lot of time - training here.

0:09:29 > 0:09:34- If your parents hadn't bought this - table for you all those years ago...

0:09:34 > 0:09:39- ..what sport do you think - you'd have taken up?

0:09:39 > 0:09:43- I wanted to be an athlete - when I was little.

0:09:44 > 0:09:49- I saw Kelly Holmes win two golds in - Athens and I wanted to emulate her.

0:09:50 > 0:09:53- I think I could have ended up - doing any sport.

0:09:53 > 0:09:58- I really wanted to go to the - Commonwealth Games doing anything.

0:09:59 > 0:10:01- It's lucky we got into table tennis.

0:10:01 > 0:10:05- It's lucky we got into table tennis.- - Yes, and your dream came true.

0:10:09 > 0:10:13- This table has an important job - over Christmas, doesn't it?

0:10:13 > 0:10:16- Yes - that's where we eat.

0:10:16 > 0:10:18- You sit around that table?

0:10:19 > 0:10:23- A lot of people can sit around it, - so it's done a good job for us.

0:10:26 > 0:10:30- The girls told me the story - about the table coming to the house.

0:10:31 > 0:10:34- What made you buy - a table tennis table?

0:10:36 > 0:10:39- We'd made the decision...

0:10:40 > 0:10:42- ..to turn - what we called the flat...

0:10:42 > 0:10:44- ..into a games room.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47- We tried to - come up with something...

0:10:47 > 0:10:51- ..that the girls - didn't have an opportunity to try.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54- They played netball and hockey - at school.

0:10:54 > 0:10:59- We wanted an indoor sport which - would be fun for us as a family.

0:10:59 > 0:11:03- It wasn't just for the girls - - it was for Mam and Dad too!

0:11:03 > 0:11:06- That's how - we reached the decision...

0:11:06 > 0:11:12- ..and we found someone - who sold table tennis tables.

0:11:12 > 0:11:15- Have they always been sporty?

0:11:15 > 0:11:17- Yes, absolutely.

0:11:17 > 0:11:22- We're both keen on sports - and we've always supported them.

0:11:22 > 0:11:27- They've done athletics, - swimming, gymnastics and skiing.

0:11:28 > 0:11:31- They did really well - at many of those.

0:11:32 > 0:11:34- Are the rest of the family sporty?

0:11:35 > 0:11:37- Yes. It runs in the family.

0:11:37 > 0:11:40- It started with my grandfather.

0:11:41 > 0:11:44- He represented Wales at athletics...

0:11:44 > 0:11:47- ..and he played rugby for Llanelli.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51- My brother - competed in the triple jump...

0:11:51 > 0:11:55- ..at the Edmonton Commonwealth Games - in 1978.

0:11:56 > 0:12:01- I played football for Wales and - my cousin played rugby for Wales.

0:12:01 > 0:12:03- There's something in the genes.

0:12:04 > 0:12:10- Did you ever imagine they'd go - so far in the table tennis world?

0:12:10 > 0:12:11- Definitely not.

0:12:12 > 0:12:14- We just gave them the opportunity.

0:12:15 > 0:12:18- When they first took it up, - I played against them...

0:12:19 > 0:12:22- ..and I always beat them - during the first year.

0:12:22 > 0:12:27- I remember the day Angharad beat Dad - for the very first time.

0:12:28 > 0:12:30- She ran upstairs when she won!

0:12:30 > 0:12:36- It became obvious that they had - a real passion for the sport.

0:12:36 > 0:12:41- Once they had that passion, it was - clear they'd be very successful.

0:12:41 > 0:12:45- Someone from the local club - saw them playing after school.

0:12:45 > 0:12:47- They were just having a knockabout.

0:12:47 > 0:12:50- This person turned to me and said...

0:12:50 > 0:12:54- .."Do you realize - your children have a real talent?"

0:12:54 > 0:12:58- Six months later, - they were playing for Wales.

0:12:58 > 0:13:02- They'd only had the table - for around 18 months at that stage.

0:13:03 > 0:13:07- We realized very suddenly - that they have a special talent.

0:13:08 > 0:13:11- Join me after the break - back here in Denbigh...

0:13:11 > 0:13:16- ..when I may show off - my table tennis skills!

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0:13:32 > 0:13:35- Welcome back to Denbigh, - where I'm spending time...

0:13:35 > 0:13:39- ..with table tennis twins - Angharad and Megan Phillips.

0:13:44 > 0:13:46- Where are we now, ladies?

0:13:46 > 0:13:50- This is one of our favourite places - in Denbigh.

0:13:51 > 0:13:55- This chocolate shop is the - perfect place to come and relax...

0:13:55 > 0:13:58- ..after a training camp - or a competition.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02- You've both ordered a mammoth drink.

0:14:02 > 0:14:04- You've both ordered a mammoth drink.- - Yes. It's called The Full Monty.

0:14:04 > 0:14:09- It's hot chocolate topped with - marshmallows, a Flake and cream.

0:14:09 > 0:14:12- This isn't part of your normal diet!

0:14:12 > 0:14:16- No, it's a treat because - we eat healthily most of the time.

0:14:16 > 0:14:19- It's important to treat yourself!

0:14:19 > 0:14:23- That's the drink, - so what do you have to eat here?

0:14:24 > 0:14:28- We love to eat chocolate pizza - when we're here.

0:14:28 > 0:14:29- Chocolate pizza?

0:14:29 > 0:14:31- Thank you, Nia.

0:14:31 > 0:14:32- Thank you, Nia.- - You're welcome.

0:14:33 > 0:14:34- Wow!

0:14:34 > 0:14:35- Wow!- - It's definitely a treat!

0:14:36 > 0:14:40- This is a dream come true - for a chocoholic like me!

0:14:44 > 0:14:47- What's the best thing - about being twins?

0:14:49 > 0:14:53- We always have a friend. - We never feel lonely.

0:14:55 > 0:14:56- What's the worst thing?

0:14:56 > 0:15:01- What's the worst thing?- - When people treat us as one person.

0:15:01 > 0:15:05- We may be similar, - but we're also individuals.

0:15:06 > 0:15:09- There isn't much I dislike - about being a twin.

0:15:09 > 0:15:15- They say that twins - finish each other's sentences...

0:15:15 > 0:15:17- ..and feel the same emotions.

0:15:17 > 0:15:19- Is that true about you?

0:15:19 > 0:15:23- When it comes to finishing - each other's sentences...

0:15:23 > 0:15:26- ..we're likely to do that sometimes.

0:15:27 > 0:15:31- But we don't share each other's - emotions and we're not telepathic.

0:15:32 > 0:15:33- Really?

0:15:33 > 0:15:34- Really?- - Unfortunately not.

0:15:34 > 0:15:36- Well, as it happens...

0:15:37 > 0:15:41- ..I have a cup here - that's full of words.

0:15:42 > 0:15:48- I'll take a word out of the cup...

0:15:48 > 0:15:52- ..and you write down - the first thing that comes to mind.

0:15:52 > 0:15:55- You can write a word - or draw a picture.

0:15:56 > 0:15:58- Here comes the first word.

0:15:58 > 0:16:00- Anifail - animal.

0:16:03 > 0:16:06- Neither of you are artists!

0:16:07 > 0:16:10- You won't be able to work out - what this is!

0:16:11 > 0:16:12- Finished?

0:16:12 > 0:16:15- Show your pictures to the camera.

0:16:16 > 0:16:17- Angharad, what's that?

0:16:17 > 0:16:19- Angharad, what's that?- - A cat, but it may not look like one!

0:16:20 > 0:16:21- Megan?

0:16:21 > 0:16:22- Megan?- - A lion.

0:16:22 > 0:16:23- A big cat.

0:16:23 > 0:16:25- A big cat.- - The same family.

0:16:25 > 0:16:27- Yours is better than mine!

0:16:29 > 0:16:31- Here comes the next word.

0:16:32 > 0:16:33- Dinbych - Denbigh.

0:16:33 > 0:16:35- Ooh!

0:16:40 > 0:16:41- Ready?

0:16:41 > 0:16:43- This is rubbish!

0:16:43 > 0:16:46- Turn your papers around now.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50- You've both drawn similar castles.

0:16:51 > 0:16:52- That is a bit weird.

0:16:53 > 0:16:55- Let's move on.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57- I enjoy being a quizmaster!

0:16:58 > 0:16:59- Bwyd - food.

0:17:02 > 0:17:05- This is really spooky. - Show your pictures.

0:17:09 > 0:17:11- You don't even like pizza!

0:17:13 > 0:17:16- I think that definitely - proves something.

0:17:16 > 0:17:18- Here comes the next word.

0:17:19 > 0:17:20- Dillad - clothes.

0:17:23 > 0:17:24- Ready?

0:17:25 > 0:17:26- Show your pictures.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32- They're almost identical.

0:17:32 > 0:17:33- They're almost identical.- - It made me drop my pen!

0:17:35 > 0:17:36- That's spooky.

0:17:36 > 0:17:41- Yes. You both left a gap - and neither of you drew a head.

0:17:42 > 0:17:44- You see?

0:17:44 > 0:17:45- You see?- - We are telepathic!

0:17:55 > 0:17:58- We appreciate Mam and Dad's support.

0:17:58 > 0:18:03- They've travelled everywhere with us - and they're always behind us.

0:18:09 > 0:18:12- Yes. Mam and Dad - have been very supportive.

0:18:12 > 0:18:15- It would have been hard - to succeed without them.

0:18:16 > 0:18:17- We really appreciate them.

0:18:19 > 0:18:22- They're on a long - and very expensive journey.

0:18:22 > 0:18:26- You're their taxi - and the extra equipment costs money.

0:18:26 > 0:18:29- Yes, that's definitely true.

0:18:29 > 0:18:32- The sports system - in Wales and Britain...

0:18:33 > 0:18:36- ..relies really heavily on parents.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39- Children need supportive parents...

0:18:39 > 0:18:42- ..who also have the means - to support their children.

0:18:43 > 0:18:45- It's really unfair, in some ways.

0:18:46 > 0:18:51- Many children who played with our - daughters when they started out...

0:18:51 > 0:18:57- ..fell by the wayside because their - parents just couldn't support them.

0:18:57 > 0:19:02- It is unfair, but we're fortunate - enough to be able to support them.

0:19:02 > 0:19:06- We've been to some incredible places - along the way.

0:19:06 > 0:19:09- Places we would never have visited.

0:19:09 > 0:19:14- We've been to China and India and - to several countries around Europe.

0:19:15 > 0:19:19- We've also been to Halifax, - Barnsley and Accrington!

0:19:23 > 0:19:29- Would you be happy to see one - of the girls turn professional...

0:19:29 > 0:19:32- ..after they've graduated?

0:19:32 > 0:19:36- If one of them says they - want to turn professional...

0:19:36 > 0:19:39- ..we'd support her to the hilt.

0:19:40 > 0:19:43- One problem for British - table tennis players...

0:19:43 > 0:19:47- ..is that players don't earn - much money in this country.

0:19:47 > 0:19:50- You couldn't live - on simply playing table tennis.

0:19:51 > 0:19:53- Not if you stayed in Britain.

0:19:56 > 0:20:00- I usually feel nervous and excited - before I play a match.

0:20:00 > 0:20:03- I try not to think - about my opponent...

0:20:03 > 0:20:06- ..and just focus - on what I'm going to do.

0:20:09 > 0:20:12- I definitely have an adrenaline rush - before a match.

0:20:13 > 0:20:14- My heart starts to race.

0:20:15 > 0:20:19- I have to control those feelings - or I'll become really nervous.

0:20:20 > 0:20:24- At the same time, it just shows me - that I'm excited about the match.

0:20:25 > 0:20:29- Angharad and Megan, - can you give me a quick lesson?

0:20:29 > 0:20:31- I'm not sure how much I'll learn!

0:20:31 > 0:20:32- I'm not sure how much I'll learn!- - We'll try.

0:20:32 > 0:20:34- Great.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37- How should I hold this bat, Megan?

0:20:37 > 0:20:40- Most hold it - as if you're shaking hands...

0:20:41 > 0:20:44- ..with one finger - going down the bat.

0:20:44 > 0:20:46- Hello! How are you?

0:20:46 > 0:20:48- Exactly.

0:20:49 > 0:20:53- You start with a serve, - just like tennis.

0:20:53 > 0:20:57- Yes. Throw the ball up around - six inches in a straight line.

0:20:58 > 0:21:00- A backhand serve looks like this.

0:21:03 > 0:21:07- It has to bounce on this side - then on the other side.

0:21:10 > 0:21:11- That's it - perfect.

0:21:11 > 0:21:13- That's it - perfect.- - Really?

0:21:13 > 0:21:15- Yes.

0:21:15 > 0:21:17- What's the longest rally you've had?

0:21:17 > 0:21:19- What's the longest rally you've had?- - I don't know.

0:21:19 > 0:21:23- We once did a 300-stroke rally - for Children In Need.

0:21:23 > 0:21:24- What?

0:21:26 > 0:21:28- The world record is eight hours.

0:21:28 > 0:21:30- The world record is eight hours.- - Non-stop?

0:21:30 > 0:21:31- Yes.

0:21:32 > 0:21:34- Whoa! That's a lot of hitting.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38- I don't think - we'll try to break that record.

0:21:45 > 0:21:47- What's next for you two?

0:21:48 > 0:21:51- A competition in Luxembourg - next week.

0:21:52 > 0:21:55- We'll travel there - with the Wales team...

0:21:55 > 0:21:58- ..to play people from across Europe.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01- It will be our biggest competition - for a long time.

0:22:02 > 0:22:04- Megan, you're off to China.

0:22:05 > 0:22:09- Yes, I'm competing - in the World Championships.

0:22:09 > 0:22:11- How long will you be in China?

0:22:11 > 0:22:13- For just over a week...

0:22:14 > 0:22:18- ..then it's straight back - to university to sit my exams.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24- You're getting better.

0:22:25 > 0:22:26- I spoke too soon!

0:22:28 > 0:22:31- How long will you continue - to play table tennis?

0:22:32 > 0:22:36- We definitely want to carry on - until the next Commonwealth Games.

0:22:37 > 0:22:42- We'll do three years at university - and the Games will be a year away.

0:22:42 > 0:22:45- Our hope is to train hard - and be selected again.

0:22:45 > 0:22:47- After that, I'm not sure.

0:22:48 > 0:22:50- We'll have to see how it goes.

0:22:52 > 0:22:55- You must hear this pinging noise - in your sleep!

0:22:58 > 0:22:59- Oh, no!

0:23:01 > 0:23:04- What advice would you offer - to a young person...

0:23:04 > 0:23:09- ..who wants to take up table tennis, - or any other sport?

0:23:11 > 0:23:13- Find a sport you really enjoy.

0:23:14 > 0:23:16- If you enjoy it, training is easy.

0:23:17 > 0:23:20- You have to put a lot of hours in...

0:23:20 > 0:23:25- ..but if you make it fun, - it doesn't feel like hard work.

0:23:25 > 0:23:28- Angharad and Megan, - thank you for the welcome...

0:23:28 > 0:23:30- ..and for the great tips.

0:23:30 > 0:23:33- Good luck in Luxembourg - and in China.

0:23:33 > 0:23:34- Thank you.

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