Episode 13

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0:00:10 > 0:00:13Good afternoon and welcome to Points Of View.

0:00:13 > 0:00:16Now, are you what viewer James Currie would call

0:00:16 > 0:00:18"a curious and educated adult"?

0:00:18 > 0:00:19He is!

0:00:19 > 0:00:21Do you respond well to being talked to

0:00:21 > 0:00:23like a class of six-year-old children?

0:00:23 > 0:00:24He doesn't.

0:00:24 > 0:00:27So, perhaps like him, you are not enjoying the new look

0:00:27 > 0:00:31that's being given to a favourite from the BBC Two autumn schedule.

0:01:02 > 0:01:05Is this Zoe Ball we're talking about?

0:01:05 > 0:01:07- Love it, I just want more! - That's what I want.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10I want you to do the whole cast by the end show.

0:01:10 > 0:01:13She took a bit of flak last week for being too excited

0:01:13 > 0:01:15on Strictly: It Takes Two,

0:01:15 > 0:01:18but this presenter is actually earlier in the alphabet.

0:01:18 > 0:01:21This time it is Michaela Strachan on Autumnwatch,

0:01:21 > 0:01:24who's being told, "We don't need you to be that excited

0:01:24 > 0:01:26"for us to enjoy the programme."

0:01:26 > 0:01:28What a triumph of modelling clay this is.

0:01:28 > 0:01:31Are you sure that's a bat's nose,

0:01:31 > 0:01:34cos it looks a bit dodge to me, if you don't mind me saying.

0:01:34 > 0:01:35Dodge?

0:01:35 > 0:01:37SHE LAUGHS It looks a bit of a worry!

0:01:37 > 0:01:40- But going back to the photograph of the bat.- Yeah.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43That looks like a player in the rugby world cup, in New Zealand.

0:01:43 > 0:01:45What - it's been smacked in the face?

0:01:45 > 0:01:48- Smacked in the face, yes! - I don't know, Chris. Can she stay?

0:01:48 > 0:01:50A face only a mother could love.

0:01:50 > 0:01:54Some viewers are attributing the excitability to a sugar rush,

0:01:54 > 0:01:57so we will be confiscating the Kendal mint cake

0:01:57 > 0:02:01from the Autumnwatch crew for forthcoming programmes.

0:02:01 > 0:02:04It seems there are personnel issues with All Roads Lead Home, too.

0:02:04 > 0:02:07The premise of journeying the British countryside

0:02:07 > 0:02:10using Mother Nature instead of a satnav - ah, we liked that -

0:02:10 > 0:02:12but the presenting trio of

0:02:12 > 0:02:14Gavin And Stacey's mum,

0:02:14 > 0:02:16that lady from the voice-over,

0:02:16 > 0:02:18and Dirk Gently

0:02:18 > 0:02:19seems to be jarring.

0:02:19 > 0:02:21'And then over the next ridge we see some trees

0:02:21 > 0:02:23'that look a little more helpful.'

0:02:23 > 0:02:25That's pretty compelling, isn't it?

0:02:25 > 0:02:28'Other than the sun, this is the first natural signpost

0:02:28 > 0:02:30'we've been able to read.'

0:02:30 > 0:02:33- Yeah.- Like Donald Trump's hair.

0:02:33 > 0:02:36So, they're all lookin' that way.

0:02:36 > 0:02:39- Yep.- So, it's a southwesterly wind, isn't it?

0:02:39 > 0:02:40A southwesterly wind.

0:02:40 > 0:02:43The one at the top, which probably gets most wind,

0:02:43 > 0:02:44is the most...

0:02:44 > 0:02:45Yeah.

0:02:45 > 0:02:47..severe.

0:02:47 > 0:02:49'At last, something works.

0:02:49 > 0:02:52'We're not so stupid after all!'

0:03:26 > 0:03:27Here we go again!

0:03:27 > 0:03:30Ditch the luvvies, bring on the experts - they know their stuff,

0:03:30 > 0:03:33and at least they can't be any more annoying!

0:03:33 > 0:03:35Rarely since the days of Don't Scare The Hare

0:03:35 > 0:03:38has a programme been so roundly condemned.

0:03:38 > 0:03:41And hang on, Sue Perkins was involved with that one, too.

0:03:41 > 0:03:45- Oh, she's blown it! - AUDIENCE: Don't scare the hare!

0:03:45 > 0:03:47Oh, Audrey's scared the hare.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50What a letdown for her, her team and the balloon.

0:03:50 > 0:03:53Now, Don't Scare The Hare has become shorthand

0:03:53 > 0:03:54for a show that failed

0:03:54 > 0:03:57but let's stop for an appreciation.

0:03:57 > 0:04:00Hi, I think that Don't Scare The Hare was a really good TV show.

0:04:00 > 0:04:03It is one of the few shows at the moment that combines

0:04:03 > 0:04:06general knowledge and fun activities.

0:04:06 > 0:04:09Did you send that in for a bet? If so, you won.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12Now, the BBC is being criticised for underplaying the tributes

0:04:12 > 0:04:15to the sitcom writer David Croft, who died in September.

0:04:15 > 0:04:19He had a screen career spanning four decades.

0:04:19 > 0:04:22David brought us Dad's Army, Are You Being Served, Hi-De-Hi!,

0:04:22 > 0:04:25It Ain't Half Hot Mum and 'Allo 'Allo,

0:04:25 > 0:04:26right into our living rooms,

0:04:26 > 0:04:29so you would think the BBC would have stopped all the clocks

0:04:29 > 0:04:32to appreciate a master of times past.

0:04:32 > 0:04:35Shame on you, BBC, for only showing a ten minute programme

0:04:35 > 0:04:37on the tribute to David Croft.

0:04:37 > 0:04:40And shame on you again, for not showing a clip from

0:04:40 > 0:04:43It Ain't Half Hot Mum, one of his best comedies.

0:04:43 > 0:04:45Shame on you twice, Clive says.

0:05:10 > 0:05:12We will watch out for that one, then.

0:05:12 > 0:05:13Next, Twincredibles -

0:05:13 > 0:05:17an extraordinary documentary highlighting the rare occasions

0:05:17 > 0:05:20when racial genetics lead to the birth of twins

0:05:20 > 0:05:22of different skin colour.

0:05:22 > 0:05:25Twincredibles was a programme about

0:05:25 > 0:05:28multi-racial twins,

0:05:28 > 0:05:31where one twin was lighter than the other

0:05:31 > 0:05:34and it was supposed to show their different life experiences.

0:05:34 > 0:05:37However, I think it came across as quite negative.

0:05:37 > 0:05:39'When the twins were born, my first thought was,

0:05:39 > 0:05:42' "I can't believe Hope is completely white,"

0:05:42 > 0:05:44'but it got even more surprising

0:05:44 > 0:05:46'when Leo got darker and darker.'

0:05:46 > 0:05:49'The brothers hit the headlines after they were born 20 minutes apart,

0:05:49 > 0:05:51'one white and the other black.'

0:05:51 > 0:05:53You look like a clown!

0:05:53 > 0:05:55For viewer Beverly Nicholls,

0:05:55 > 0:05:56it was the negative tone

0:05:56 > 0:06:00that didn't sit side by side with the subject matter,

0:06:00 > 0:06:02and her family is in a unique position to comment.

0:06:02 > 0:06:05We always used to have that thing, didn't we, of being asked...

0:06:05 > 0:06:08- our dates of birth?- Yeah, as a test.

0:06:08 > 0:06:10To see if we'd get it right!

0:06:10 > 0:06:12As if they're going to catch us out cos we're lying.

0:06:12 > 0:06:16'Someone had said that I should let Nathan'

0:06:16 > 0:06:19be brought up properly by a white family.

0:06:19 > 0:06:23'We never really thought of the difference in colour

0:06:23 > 0:06:25'being anything more unusual

0:06:25 > 0:06:28'than the difference in eye colour, hair colour, height,

0:06:28 > 0:06:33'weight, build, and that's something that we didn't think came across...

0:06:33 > 0:06:34- 'That's right. - ..in the programme.'

0:06:36 > 0:06:40'I see myself as black but other people see me as white.

0:06:42 > 0:06:43'But we're mixed race.'

0:06:43 > 0:06:47I thought it'd be an opportunity for many people, including myself,

0:06:47 > 0:06:50'to see how other mixed-race twins are.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53'I think it fell short of that, where it seemed

0:06:53 > 0:06:55'to centralise on problematic relationships,

0:06:55 > 0:06:58'and that's not mine'

0:06:58 > 0:07:01or my family's experience of that at all.

0:07:01 > 0:07:05'We do like completely different things.

0:07:05 > 0:07:08'We like completely different people.

0:07:08 > 0:07:12'He is just not the same as me in any way.'

0:07:13 > 0:07:17We didn't feel that there was a balance

0:07:17 > 0:07:19on the way everyone had been portrayed in the programme.

0:07:19 > 0:07:21Then again, we didn't know

0:07:21 > 0:07:24whether that was how the people had felt

0:07:24 > 0:07:27or the way it had just been edited.

0:07:27 > 0:07:30It didn't seem like the people were too happy with the way they were.

0:07:59 > 0:08:00Now drama,

0:08:00 > 0:08:03and Hidden is Philip Glenister's latest vehicle.

0:08:03 > 0:08:05So, that's the Quattro back in the garage, then.

0:08:05 > 0:08:10It's shown after 9pm, but apparently the nudity and the swearing

0:08:10 > 0:08:14are joining forces with the wobbly camera work to...

0:08:14 > 0:08:15nauseate some viewers.

0:08:16 > 0:08:18CAR HORN BEEPS

0:08:23 > 0:08:25- Put your- BLEEP- foot down!

0:08:26 > 0:08:28CAR HORN BEEPS

0:08:33 > 0:08:35- Oh,- BLEEP!

0:09:20 > 0:09:22Camera people, let me introduce you to the tripod.

0:09:22 > 0:09:24It is a kind of three-legged creature,

0:09:24 > 0:09:27which allows your camera to film steady pictures.

0:09:27 > 0:09:30Recent invention, you ask? No, about 100 years.

0:09:30 > 0:09:32We think there may be a shortage of them.

0:09:32 > 0:09:36In a land of myth, and a time of magic,

0:09:36 > 0:09:41the destiny of a great kingdom rests on the shoulders of a young man.

0:09:41 > 0:09:43His name...

0:09:43 > 0:09:44Merlin.

0:09:46 > 0:09:49Now, when you begin your programme with the words,

0:09:49 > 0:09:52"In a land of myth and a time of magic,"

0:09:52 > 0:09:55does that give you carte blanche to rewrite medieval history?

0:09:55 > 0:09:57Discuss.

0:09:58 > 0:09:59'His compassion.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03'His unselfish heart.'

0:10:06 > 0:10:11MUSIC: "Supermassive Black Hole" by Muse

0:10:18 > 0:10:22It is certainly magical for most, but some viewers are not happy

0:10:22 > 0:10:24with the production playing fast and loose

0:10:24 > 0:10:27with Arthurian legend.

0:10:47 > 0:10:51SHRIEKING

0:10:52 > 0:10:54No! NO!

0:10:54 > 0:10:56No!

0:10:59 > 0:11:00No!

0:11:09 > 0:11:11I think Merlin's very clever as it gives you

0:11:11 > 0:11:13the bits of the legend you'd expect -

0:11:13 > 0:11:16Lancelot, The Sword In The Stone, The Lady Of The Lake,

0:11:16 > 0:11:17they're all there.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20They're all parts of the legend and it tells you that

0:11:20 > 0:11:21but in a new and unexpected way.

0:11:21 > 0:11:26I think for the purists - yes, I understand why they're upset -

0:11:26 > 0:11:28but I think they should look at the amount of people

0:11:28 > 0:11:31that tune in and are now interested in the legends and myths,

0:11:31 > 0:11:34and if it makes it popular, then that's a good thing.

0:11:35 > 0:11:38I think my character, from where she started out to where she's ended up

0:11:38 > 0:11:40has had the biggest change.

0:11:40 > 0:11:42UTTERS INCANTATION

0:11:44 > 0:11:46WOMAN SCREAMS

0:11:46 > 0:11:49By the time you get to the fourth season she is out-and-out evil,

0:11:49 > 0:11:52and almost cackling in a cave like Macbeth's witches,

0:11:52 > 0:11:55but you can really understand why she is the way she is.

0:11:55 > 0:11:57Oof!

0:11:58 > 0:12:00It's far more fun being evil!

0:12:02 > 0:12:03To the king.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05Our most grown-up season yet.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07They've decided to push the boundaries every year

0:12:07 > 0:12:10and make it bigger, better and bolder

0:12:10 > 0:12:12and it is more filmic,

0:12:12 > 0:12:14it's beautiful, I think.

0:12:14 > 0:12:16I might be biased though!

0:12:16 > 0:12:18That about wraps things up for this week.

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0:12:48 > 0:12:52We will certainly be taking a careful look at the stamp if you do.

0:13:15 > 0:13:17With the original wrapping.

0:13:17 > 0:13:18We've got the brown paper.

0:13:18 > 0:13:19Buckingham Palace paper.

0:13:19 > 0:13:21And it says,

0:13:21 > 0:13:24"Buckingham Palace...'03." 1903.

0:13:25 > 0:13:28That is probably worth somewhere in the region of let's say,

0:13:28 > 0:13:32between £30 and £40.

0:13:32 > 0:13:34Well spotted, Bruce and Colin.

0:13:34 > 0:13:36Antiques Roadshow told us,

0:13:36 > 0:13:39"Thanks to the sharp-eyed Points Of View viewers

0:13:39 > 0:13:40"for pointing this one out.

0:13:40 > 0:13:42"Our specialist, Lars Tharp,

0:13:42 > 0:13:44"is very knowledgeable about ceramics

0:13:44 > 0:13:47"but admits Victorian stamps are not a speciality.

0:13:47 > 0:13:51"We are delighted to pass on such good news to the owner of the cup."

0:13:51 > 0:13:54I love a happy ending. Goodbye.

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