Episode 17

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0:00:10 > 0:00:12Good afternoon and welcome to Points Of View,

0:00:12 > 0:00:16where it appears we have stumbled on the elixir of youth.

0:00:16 > 0:00:19We've been inundated with mail from younger viewers this week,

0:00:19 > 0:00:22and the young at heart who are watching teen shows even if,

0:00:22 > 0:00:26like Margaret Parminter, they are slightly over that age now.

0:00:26 > 0:00:30Why is BBC Three aimed at 16 to 24-year-olds? Is it really?

0:00:30 > 0:00:32Because I thoroughly enjoyed The Fades

0:00:32 > 0:00:35and I'm completely the wrong demographic to be watching it.

0:00:40 > 0:00:45The Fades was a sort of gothic horror, good-versus-evil story,

0:00:45 > 0:00:49but it went deeper than that if you chose to look deeper.

0:00:49 > 0:00:53It was a really interesting explanation of relationships

0:00:53 > 0:00:57and personalities and how they developed

0:00:57 > 0:01:00and how people came to be what they were and who they were.

0:01:00 > 0:01:04These dreams...I've been having.

0:01:05 > 0:01:10(Mate, those are natural things. Beautiful things.)

0:01:10 > 0:01:15Good people were the Angelics and bad people were the Fades.

0:01:15 > 0:01:21The Angelics were the people who had the ability to see people

0:01:21 > 0:01:23who had not yet ascended.

0:01:23 > 0:01:28What ascension is is never explained, because everybody ascends,

0:01:28 > 0:01:30be you good, bad or indifferent.

0:01:33 > 0:01:38The main character is Paul. He is so shy it is almost debilitating.

0:01:39 > 0:01:41People think I'm a freak.

0:01:41 > 0:01:47I need someone new to make it all OK again, because... Please.

0:01:47 > 0:01:50I'm really sorry, I... I can't.

0:01:50 > 0:01:53At the beginning of each episode of the series,

0:01:53 > 0:01:56Mac, Paul's best mate in the whole wide world,

0:01:56 > 0:02:01did a little piece to camera where he explained about his relationship

0:02:01 > 0:02:03with Paul and the story so far.

0:02:04 > 0:02:07Each time, he signed off with, "Nanu, nanu..."

0:02:07 > 0:02:08Nanu, nanu.

0:02:08 > 0:02:12..which was a reference to Mork & Mindy, which I loved

0:02:12 > 0:02:17when I was young, so if it really is aimed at the 16 to 24-year-olds,

0:02:17 > 0:02:20quite how many of them would have got that reference I don't know.

0:02:20 > 0:02:22I think that was in for the mums.

0:02:22 > 0:02:24The controller of BBC Three, Zai Bennett,

0:02:24 > 0:02:27will be in our hot seat in three weeks' time,

0:02:27 > 0:02:29so he will be interested to hear about

0:02:29 > 0:02:32his unexpectedly wide audience for The Fades

0:02:32 > 0:02:35and tell us whether it will be re-commissioned and, indeed,

0:02:35 > 0:02:38answer any other questions that you have for him.

0:02:38 > 0:02:41Now, another drama aimed at children which is the guilty pleasure

0:02:41 > 0:02:43of a surprising number of adults

0:02:43 > 0:02:46in the teaching profession is Waterloo Road.

0:02:48 > 0:02:52And perhaps it is only fitting that Jordan and Shannon

0:02:52 > 0:02:55of Hayle Community School in Cornwall

0:02:55 > 0:02:56decided to wear their uniforms

0:02:56 > 0:02:59to film their feedback on this drama's autumn term.

0:02:59 > 0:03:04- It's an amazingly cool show and it's so realistic.- Yeah, definitely.

0:03:04 > 0:03:08Even though it's on at 7.30pm until 8.30pm, I still find it

0:03:08 > 0:03:11a lot more child-friendly than Hollyoaks, which is on at 6.30pm.

0:03:11 > 0:03:17I totally agree and when it's not on, I rarely watch TV

0:03:17 > 0:03:19and I can never wait till the new series.

0:03:19 > 0:03:22So that's "tick, VG" for Waterloo Road.

0:03:22 > 0:03:25But there's a black mark due for schedulers who are apparently

0:03:25 > 0:03:30hiding great family viewing on the wrong side of the watershed.

0:03:30 > 0:03:34Robert Tate is one of many viewers who feel new BBC One gems

0:03:34 > 0:03:37like Frozen Planet and Young Apprentice are currently shown

0:03:37 > 0:03:40way past the bedtime of their core audience.

0:03:40 > 0:03:44Can someone in the BBC please explain the logic of putting

0:03:44 > 0:03:47a programme aimed at a family audience after nine o'clock

0:03:47 > 0:03:50and losing the opportunity and benefit of that programme?

0:03:50 > 0:03:53The irritation was triggered by the Young Apprentice

0:03:53 > 0:03:57coming at nine o'clock, after Panorama at 8.30pm,

0:03:57 > 0:04:01and that, to me, makes no sense whatsoever.

0:04:01 > 0:04:04By the time the programme's finished it's ten o'clock,

0:04:04 > 0:04:06by the time we may have discussed it as a family

0:04:06 > 0:04:08having been interested in the programme together,

0:04:08 > 0:04:10it's getting too late.

0:04:10 > 0:04:15One of the key benefits of such programmes is that young people,

0:04:15 > 0:04:17kids, can talk the next morning with their friends in school

0:04:17 > 0:04:19about the programme.

0:04:19 > 0:04:22If they haven't seen it, they can't discuss it

0:04:22 > 0:04:23and they're losing by it.

0:04:23 > 0:04:27Lord Sugar started his career while still at school.

0:04:27 > 0:04:31Now, he's on the hunt for his next Young Apprentice.

0:04:31 > 0:04:32It's increasingly across the board

0:04:32 > 0:04:36with the major natural history programmes and science programmes.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39So Frozen Planet, Planet Dinosaur...

0:04:41 > 0:04:45..Wonders Of The Universe, all these have come after nine o'clock.

0:04:45 > 0:04:50The key is that they are fantastic educational programmes

0:04:50 > 0:04:51for all people, young and old,

0:04:51 > 0:04:54and it is a shame to miss out on that opportunity.

0:05:21 > 0:05:27The repeats are not publicised at all on the BBC,

0:05:27 > 0:05:30so it's not clear when they are, and normally they'll be

0:05:30 > 0:05:33on Sunday afternoon, early evening, which is a very difficult

0:05:33 > 0:05:38time for young people but the main issue is that you lose the immediacy

0:05:38 > 0:05:41of having seen the programme, being able to discuss it the next morning

0:05:41 > 0:05:42with people around you.

0:05:42 > 0:05:44So youngsters do get a teatime repeat

0:05:44 > 0:05:47but they miss out on the midweek premieres.

0:05:47 > 0:05:50Now, Gareth Malone, Britain's most famous choirmaster,

0:05:50 > 0:05:53began his TV odyssey with a school choir

0:05:53 > 0:05:55but for his latest project,

0:05:55 > 0:05:57the age range has moved up an octave

0:05:57 > 0:06:01as he tutors the musical talents of military wives.

0:06:01 > 0:06:05I think it's worth you knowing that every single person

0:06:05 > 0:06:09who you're about to hear sing has a partner in the Forces.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12Many of them at this very moment are in Afghanistan

0:06:12 > 0:06:16and they do have a very hard time and they are incredibly stoic,

0:06:16 > 0:06:17they just kind of get on with it.

0:06:17 > 0:06:23# Our souls are raging on the rolling seas

0:06:23 > 0:06:27# And on the highway of regret. #

0:06:53 > 0:06:57Much praise for Gareth, proving that a single skill, singing,

0:06:57 > 0:06:59can improve so many situations.

0:06:59 > 0:07:02Sadly, it would seem that some viewers believe

0:07:02 > 0:07:03the skill of Jon Culshaw

0:07:03 > 0:07:07is not enough to sustain a cast of characters in The Impressions Show.

0:07:07 > 0:07:09I've lost my big book of observations.

0:07:09 > 0:07:11Only this morning, I made an observation that,

0:07:11 > 0:07:14when there is a pregnant lady standing in front of you on the bus,

0:07:14 > 0:07:17you never know whether to give your seat up for her

0:07:17 > 0:07:18because she may just be fat.

0:07:18 > 0:07:21Preggers or porky, preggers or porky, what to do, what to do?

0:07:42 > 0:07:45Well, if they didn't before, you've told them now, David.

0:07:45 > 0:07:48Now, Will It Snow? Ah, the weather!

0:07:48 > 0:07:50Such a popular topic and it was a popular programme,

0:07:50 > 0:07:52although not for all.

0:08:29 > 0:08:31Annoyance that the programme was,

0:08:31 > 0:08:34like so many forecasters, inconclusive.

0:08:34 > 0:08:35So, what was the aim?

0:08:35 > 0:08:38Will It Snow? was commissioned as a populist programme,

0:08:38 > 0:08:40as an accessible programme presented by Kate Humble

0:08:40 > 0:08:43and we really were trying to speak to a broad audience.

0:08:43 > 0:08:48It was made on a topical schedule but even so, only around a quarter

0:08:48 > 0:08:52of the footage is archive, obviously you need some archive in a programme

0:08:52 > 0:08:56like this to be able to depict how bad winters have got in Britain.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59In terms of rounding up the science of weather forecasting

0:08:59 > 0:09:01and explaining the weather patterns

0:09:01 > 0:09:03that lie behind the big freeze in Britain,

0:09:03 > 0:09:07the programme did do that quite well and I think, hopefully,

0:09:07 > 0:09:10that's reflected in the fact that it was a very popular programme.

0:09:10 > 0:09:12Whilst we're on the subject of cold weather,

0:09:12 > 0:09:15Panorama this week questioned what is fuelling your energy bill.

0:09:15 > 0:09:18The programme described itself as "Tom Heap's investigation

0:09:18 > 0:09:20"into claims that Government policy

0:09:20 > 0:09:23"is contributing to rocketing energy bills".

0:09:23 > 0:09:25It's become very clear to me that,

0:09:25 > 0:09:27much as I dislike nuclear power,

0:09:27 > 0:09:30if we don't replace our nuclear power stations,

0:09:30 > 0:09:34we will have no option but to invest in more fossil fuel.

0:09:34 > 0:09:39The Government is proposing a guaranteed price for nuclear.

0:09:39 > 0:09:41It's a sweetener to encourage building

0:09:41 > 0:09:44so they meet their carbon-cutting targets.

0:09:44 > 0:09:46We'll pay for the sugar, but do we know that?

0:10:15 > 0:10:20An accusation of "doing nothing to promote" would probably delight

0:10:20 > 0:10:24a neutral journalistic programme, Jess, but not grasping the facts

0:10:24 > 0:10:28and leaving people misinformed is, Matt, a serious charge.

0:10:59 > 0:11:03Now, Land Girls made a comeback this week - not literally,

0:11:03 > 0:11:06just in case you were hoping you could persuade some

0:11:06 > 0:11:07to dig over your allotment.

0:11:07 > 0:11:11The daytime drama has featured quite regularly with us in the past

0:11:11 > 0:11:12for playing fast and loose

0:11:12 > 0:11:15with historical accuracy in props and continuity,

0:11:15 > 0:11:18but it seems they've listened to what you've said on this

0:11:18 > 0:11:20and they have made changes for series three.

0:11:43 > 0:11:44Blown the budget, Philap!

0:11:44 > 0:11:46In these austere times, if that's happened,

0:11:46 > 0:11:48we'd better take a look, hadn't we?

0:11:48 > 0:11:51SCREAMING

0:11:55 > 0:11:57SCREAMING

0:11:59 > 0:12:02Land Girls, returning with a bang or three.

0:12:02 > 0:12:04And whilst we're feeling nostalgic,

0:12:04 > 0:12:07let us close with my Points Of View forebear, Sir Terry Wogan,

0:12:07 > 0:12:11who was a guest on Celebrity Antiques Road Trip this week.

0:12:11 > 0:12:13Partnered by actress Caroline Quentin,

0:12:13 > 0:12:16Sir Tel undertook the challenge that the format demands

0:12:16 > 0:12:20to auction antiques in aid of Children In Need, but of course,

0:12:20 > 0:12:23saying "format" to Terry is a red rag to a bull.

0:12:23 > 0:12:26Needless to say, he didn't follow the rules.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29Sir Terry - look! He's trying to buy his own lot!

0:12:29 > 0:12:35At £65, I'll give you one more. 70! 75! At £70, looking for 75.

0:12:35 > 0:12:40- At £70, looking for 75.- I think it's fantastic!- At 75.- Any more bids?- 80.

0:12:40 > 0:12:44At £75, sir, do you want 80 there? 80 there, 85. Give me 85.

0:12:45 > 0:12:4885, at 90 now.

0:12:48 > 0:12:51I wouldn't say we were desperate or anything, but you know!

0:13:20 > 0:13:23I'm sure Sir Terry would be delighted to see

0:13:23 > 0:13:26nothing has changed around here - for every six who like a show...

0:13:26 > 0:13:28- AS TERRY WOGAN: - ..there are half a dozen who don't.

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