0:00:10 > 0:00:12Good afternoon, and welcome to Points Of View.
0:00:12 > 0:00:14And may we say, well done for finding us.
0:00:14 > 0:00:18I don't know if you used Sat-nav or the old-fashioned Radio Times,
0:00:18 > 0:00:20but congratulations, you found the programme
0:00:20 > 0:00:22far from home, here on BBC Two.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24From comments we have had,
0:00:24 > 0:00:28it seems that transplanting shows is not always a good idea.
0:00:28 > 0:00:29Did you see Strictly at Wembley?
0:00:29 > 0:00:32# Hell is gone and heaven's here
0:00:32 > 0:00:34# There's nothing left for you to fear
0:00:34 > 0:00:35# Shake your ass, come over here
0:00:35 > 0:00:37# Now scream... #
0:01:00 > 0:01:02Actually, Fran, you don't sound grumpy at all.
0:01:02 > 0:01:04You love the programme.
0:01:04 > 0:01:07When we filmed in the Strictly studio a couple of weeks back,
0:01:07 > 0:01:10I did find it a more intimate space than I expected,
0:01:10 > 0:01:11so maybe Wembley blew it.
0:01:43 > 0:01:45So, they did raise money,
0:01:45 > 0:01:47but they may not go back to Wembley for a while.
0:01:47 > 0:01:49Now to the elephant in the room.
0:01:49 > 0:01:52Last Sunday, you reviewed Life's Too Short,
0:01:52 > 0:01:54the latest Ricky Gervais comedy show.
0:01:54 > 0:01:57And it was a 50-50 split on those who found it funny
0:01:57 > 0:01:58and those who did not.
0:01:58 > 0:02:00No surprise there.
0:02:00 > 0:02:02But now people are focusing on the key issue,
0:02:02 > 0:02:06which is that it uses a disability to get a laugh.
0:02:06 > 0:02:07I want to tell him how to be a dwarf,
0:02:07 > 0:02:10how to think like a dwarf, how to feel like a dwarf.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16Then they'll use special effects to make him small like a dwarf.
0:02:16 > 0:02:18And should you ever do that?
0:03:08 > 0:03:10Well, it hasn't been ignored,
0:03:10 > 0:03:13Kristina and the many others who wrote in this week.
0:03:13 > 0:03:14You've been heard,
0:03:14 > 0:03:16and this is the response.
0:03:48 > 0:03:50It wasn't just discussion around the content.
0:03:50 > 0:03:53The many trailers for Life's Too Short also ensured
0:03:53 > 0:03:56it had plenty of pre-publicity.
0:03:56 > 0:03:59But hearing lots about a programme before it is broadcast
0:03:59 > 0:04:01isn't necessarily a bonus,
0:04:01 > 0:04:03is it, Teresa Barker?
0:04:03 > 0:04:04Just so irritating.
0:04:04 > 0:04:08I just...came to say...
0:04:08 > 0:04:10- Hello!- I could stick around and...
0:04:10 > 0:04:12- Enjoy the party.- Hello!
0:04:12 > 0:04:14It's the BBC programme trailers,
0:04:14 > 0:04:17those adverts telling us what is coming up on the BBC
0:04:17 > 0:04:19slotted before and after programmes,
0:04:19 > 0:04:23that's making many of you want to reach for your remotes.
0:04:23 > 0:04:25I could scream, I was just so fed up.
0:04:25 > 0:04:27And I thought the BBC,
0:04:27 > 0:04:30with their sort of monotonous regularity
0:04:30 > 0:04:33of pumping these things out...
0:04:33 > 0:04:35Wednesday at 9 on...
0:04:35 > 0:04:36Tuesday at 9 on BBC Two...
0:04:36 > 0:04:39Starts tonight at 10:30...
0:04:39 > 0:04:41..Continues Thursday at 9 on BBC Four.
0:04:41 > 0:04:42I don't remember, years back,
0:04:42 > 0:04:46being quite so inundated by the BBC's trailers,
0:04:46 > 0:04:48and they just get so irritating,
0:04:48 > 0:04:52because you're watching the same thing over and over and over again.
0:04:52 > 0:04:54The trailer is the same.
0:04:54 > 0:04:56The content doesn't really seem to vary.
0:04:56 > 0:05:00The Pan Am one sticks in my mind particularly,
0:05:00 > 0:05:03you know, those blue wiggling bottoms drove me nuts.
0:05:03 > 0:05:05I felt, if I see those again...
0:05:05 > 0:05:07In actual fact, what it has done for me is,
0:05:07 > 0:05:10I absolutely refuse to watch the programme.
0:05:10 > 0:05:12It's turned me off totally.
0:05:12 > 0:05:15I probably won't watch Garrow's Law either.
0:05:15 > 0:05:18The repetition of the woman
0:05:18 > 0:05:21whose son had been stolen, abducted or whatever it was.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23He has stolen my son!
0:05:24 > 0:05:26With modern technology,
0:05:26 > 0:05:29we have access to so many ways of finding out what's on television.
0:05:29 > 0:05:32Other people have the daily newspaper,
0:05:32 > 0:05:35most people have a copy of something like the Radio Times,
0:05:35 > 0:05:39you know, do we need to be subjected to this all the time?
0:05:39 > 0:05:41And a radical suggestion from Teresa
0:05:41 > 0:05:47for those BBC staff responsible for bombarding us with trailer overload?
0:05:47 > 0:05:50Take off, dock, about £25 per trailer shown,
0:05:50 > 0:05:54of the channel controller's salary at the end of that week,
0:05:54 > 0:05:57and I think they could go home with quite a lot less money.
0:05:57 > 0:05:59So Teresa is not keen on trailers,
0:05:59 > 0:06:04and neither, it would appear, are BBC HD viewers in Scotland.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06The HD channel is UK-wide,
0:06:06 > 0:06:08but there's a basic problem here.
0:06:08 > 0:06:11It trails programmes its own viewers can't see in Scotland,
0:06:11 > 0:06:13where they have regional opt-outs.
0:06:13 > 0:06:14Whoops.
0:06:31 > 0:06:33I think viewers who have seen trails
0:06:33 > 0:06:36for programmes that are not going out on BBC One Scotland
0:06:36 > 0:06:39may have been watching on BBC One HD,
0:06:39 > 0:06:41where we can't rebrand the trails.
0:06:41 > 0:06:43Programmes like The Manor Reborn,
0:06:43 > 0:06:47which is currently being trailed on BBC One HD for 9pm on a Thursday,
0:06:47 > 0:06:52is actually being shown on a Sunday at 10:25 on BBC One Scotland.
0:06:52 > 0:06:55So if you're watching BBC One Scotland
0:06:55 > 0:06:57you would see it trailed as such,
0:06:57 > 0:07:02but if you're watching BBC One HD, you would see the network trails.
0:07:02 > 0:07:06Towards the end of 2012, BBC One Scotland will launch in HD,
0:07:06 > 0:07:09so hopefully that will be the end of all those problems,
0:07:09 > 0:07:12and when you see a trail for BBC One Scotland HD,
0:07:12 > 0:07:15it'll be what you see in your listings
0:07:15 > 0:07:17and what you see on the HD channel as well.
0:07:17 > 0:07:19So far, we've been hearing lots
0:07:19 > 0:07:22about how not to make or promote a programme.
0:07:22 > 0:07:23Don't take it out of the studio,
0:07:23 > 0:07:25don't exploit disability for humour,
0:07:25 > 0:07:28and don't over-trail your output.
0:07:28 > 0:07:31Shall we be just a weeny bit more positive?
0:07:31 > 0:07:33What about a list of how-tos?
0:07:33 > 0:07:35And here, we could take as our inspiration
0:07:35 > 0:07:37the programme How To Build,
0:07:37 > 0:07:40which seems to have nailed it on all fronts.
0:07:40 > 0:07:44At this speed, the car would normally follow this line.
0:07:44 > 0:07:45But using brake steer
0:07:45 > 0:07:48allows it to follow this line,
0:07:48 > 0:07:49holding the apex of the corner
0:07:49 > 0:07:52and killing any understeer.
0:08:10 > 0:08:13Ah yes, not having a numpty presenter,
0:08:13 > 0:08:16a sure-fire ingredient of success.
0:08:16 > 0:08:18Thank you Sue and "shilkman".
0:08:18 > 0:08:22We now know what makes programmes work and what makes them fail.
0:08:22 > 0:08:24If channel controllers still can't get it right,
0:08:24 > 0:08:27they can always put out a load of repeats,
0:08:27 > 0:08:28can't they, John Taylor?
0:08:28 > 0:08:30In choosing what to repeat,
0:08:30 > 0:08:32I think the BBC could show a bit more imagination.
0:08:32 > 0:08:37The BBC's got a huge archive of fantastic programmes,
0:08:37 > 0:08:39which people would love to see,
0:08:39 > 0:08:42which are probably hidden away in a cupboard somewhere,
0:08:42 > 0:08:43forgotten.
0:08:43 > 0:08:47Ah, the BBC archives stretching back into the mists of time,
0:08:47 > 0:08:50or as John would have it, the back of a dusty cupboard.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53But I feel a light bulb coming on, John?
0:08:54 > 0:08:56My great idea for repeats
0:08:56 > 0:08:59is to let the viewers decide what they'd like to see.
0:08:59 > 0:09:03Let viewers nominate programmes from the past which they've enjoyed,
0:09:03 > 0:09:06and bring them to the attention of other people
0:09:06 > 0:09:08who may not have seen them.
0:09:09 > 0:09:14They could make a programme about the archive itself,
0:09:14 > 0:09:18and look at extracts from archive programmes.
0:09:18 > 0:09:22When people see them, they may say, "That looks an interesting programme,
0:09:22 > 0:09:24"I never saw it, I'd like to see that."
0:09:24 > 0:09:27Then they could vote in, either by the internet or phone,
0:09:27 > 0:09:30to say, "I'd like to vote for this programme."
0:09:30 > 0:09:32Tell me about the trial.
0:09:32 > 0:09:34I think it were real handsome of you
0:09:34 > 0:09:35to speak up for him.
0:09:35 > 0:09:37Many wouldn't have done it.
0:09:38 > 0:09:42He'd have been better off if I'd stayed at home.
0:09:42 > 0:09:43I didn't do it right.
0:09:43 > 0:09:46I should have...flattered them more,
0:09:46 > 0:09:47talked of us gentlemen.
0:09:47 > 0:09:51Of course, delving into the archive can be a complicated business,
0:09:51 > 0:09:53and it usually boils down to money.
0:09:53 > 0:09:56Obviously there'll be problems
0:09:56 > 0:09:59for some programmes, with repeat fees, royalties and so on,
0:09:59 > 0:10:00but there must be some way around
0:10:00 > 0:10:03allowing older programmes to be shown.
0:10:03 > 0:10:04- Morning, Frank.- Morning.
0:10:04 > 0:10:06One of the cylinders is spluttering.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09Soot on the spark plug, I think. I had a look at it.
0:10:09 > 0:10:10It's all right now.
0:10:12 > 0:10:15It our BBC. We pay for it.
0:10:15 > 0:10:18They've got programmes which a lot of us would like to see again,
0:10:18 > 0:10:21so let the people choose what we're going to see repeated.
0:10:21 > 0:10:25This week saw a new live studio show begin on BBC One.
0:10:25 > 0:10:28It was called That's Britain,
0:10:28 > 0:10:29and apparently, that's a shame.
0:10:29 > 0:10:31On this show, your words count,
0:10:31 > 0:10:34because this is our Word Wall. Too-doo-doo!
0:10:34 > 0:10:35AUDIENCE COOS
0:10:35 > 0:10:38Yes, we know it often feels as if you're talking to the wall.
0:10:38 > 0:10:39On That's Britain, you are.
0:10:59 > 0:11:02Money is still pouring in for Children In Need,
0:11:02 > 0:11:05with a total edging £27 million,
0:11:05 > 0:11:09and last week's extravaganza raised a record amount on the night.
0:11:09 > 0:11:11A personal favourite for many
0:11:11 > 0:11:14was when Lord Sugar entered the Dragons' Den.
0:11:14 > 0:11:17What have you dragged me out here for, anyway?
0:11:17 > 0:11:18Who has a business meeting
0:11:18 > 0:11:22in a knackered old warehouse, chains everywhere?
0:11:22 > 0:11:25Get a grip! This is not The Long Good Friday.
0:11:25 > 0:11:28But it's Lord Sugar's current day job with Young Apprentice
0:11:28 > 0:11:31that's going down well, with at least one young entrepreneur.
0:11:31 > 0:11:34I believe The Apprentice is the best programme
0:11:34 > 0:11:37the British Broadcasting Company has ever produced.
0:11:37 > 0:11:41It's truly fantastic. Alan Sugar is absolutely amazing.
0:11:41 > 0:11:42When it's time for the boardroom,
0:11:42 > 0:11:45it's left me engrossed in the television, shrieking.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48The programme has truly inspired me, and has left me...
0:11:50 > 0:11:54..desperately wanting to fulfil my entrepreneurial dreams.
0:11:54 > 0:11:56Even at this early stage, Jake,
0:11:56 > 0:11:59I sense you may have caught Lord Sugar's eye.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02To another viewer, Lex Harrison, who's done what I do, but better.
0:12:02 > 0:12:06He sent us an e-mail headed "The Ups And Downs Of The BBC,"
0:12:06 > 0:12:09and basically summed up the whole week's postbag for us.
0:12:32 > 0:12:35Who would have thought you could have changed so many women's lives
0:12:35 > 0:12:37by teaching us how to sing?
0:12:37 > 0:12:40This has been an unforgettable experience,
0:12:40 > 0:12:42which we are all so proud to be a part of.
0:12:42 > 0:12:45So here is our thank-you to you, and we hope you enjoy it.
0:12:45 > 0:12:49PIANO MUSIC
0:12:50 > 0:12:53# You're nothing special
0:12:53 > 0:12:55# In fact you're a bit of a bore
0:12:55 > 0:12:57LAUGHTER
0:12:57 > 0:13:00# You're just a bit of a bore, you know
0:13:00 > 0:13:04# When you tell a joke
0:13:04 > 0:13:07# We've probably heard it before... #
0:13:07 > 0:13:09Yeah, that's fair.
0:13:09 > 0:13:11# Must have heard it before, oh, yeah... #
0:13:11 > 0:13:13Thank you, Lex.
0:13:13 > 0:13:15Military Wives has undoubtedly been
0:13:15 > 0:13:18one of the most appreciated programmes this autumn.
0:13:18 > 0:13:22Now, next week, the controller of the BBC's naughty teenager,
0:13:22 > 0:13:25officially known as BBC Three, is in our hot seat.
0:13:25 > 0:13:29To put questions to him or draw our attention to anything else,
0:13:29 > 0:13:30here's the address.
0:13:34 > 0:13:38There's also an e-mail address,
0:13:38 > 0:13:42and you can let rip on the messageboard.
0:13:42 > 0:13:46Or give us a ring. Calls are charged at a local rate from a landline.
0:13:46 > 0:13:47Here is the number for you.
0:13:51 > 0:13:55Until next week, when we're back on BBC One, goodbye.
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