Episode 10

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0:00:10 > 0:00:12Good afternoon and welcome to Points of View.

0:00:12 > 0:00:15Now, as it is officially the barbecue season,

0:00:15 > 0:00:18we're going backstage shortly to do a bit of grilling

0:00:18 > 0:00:20with the head of BBC1 Daytime.

0:00:20 > 0:00:25Among items on the agenda are the number of programmes about property

0:00:25 > 0:00:29and antiques and the repeats that daytime viewers are subjected to.

0:00:29 > 0:00:34But first, lots of shows have been bumped for the sport this summer

0:00:34 > 0:00:37and it seems the most angry viewers are the gardeners.

0:00:37 > 0:00:40Very upset that Gardeners' World has been taken off the air

0:00:40 > 0:00:43and they're having a dig for victory.

0:00:43 > 0:00:46That's it for today's programme.

0:00:46 > 0:00:49We shan't be back I'm afraid for four weeks

0:00:49 > 0:00:51because of various sporting activities.

0:00:51 > 0:00:54But life will go on at Longmeadow, we'll keep gardening,

0:00:54 > 0:00:57I hope you do too and we'll meet again in a month's time.

0:00:57 > 0:00:59Until then, bye-bye.

0:01:52 > 0:01:55Well, Malcolm, I'll be interested too.

0:02:14 > 0:02:18And the Hampton Court and Tatton Park flower shows in the coming weeks

0:02:18 > 0:02:21will doubtless contain some tips for the green fingered.

0:02:21 > 0:02:27As well as being the growing season, it has also been the Shakespeare season across the BBC,

0:02:27 > 0:02:31so we had a few weeks ago Felicity Kendal showing us around India

0:02:31 > 0:02:35with Shakespeare performances like her family had done many years ago.

0:02:35 > 0:02:38Great programme. Also Doctors.

0:02:38 > 0:02:42They have been revamping classic storylines from the Bard

0:02:42 > 0:02:45and turning them into modern, medical tales, and there's more.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25Isn't it great when we have comments like that

0:03:25 > 0:03:27and you think, were they watching the same show?

0:03:27 > 0:03:30Now, take a look at what they were discussing

0:03:30 > 0:03:35and meanwhile I will head over to see the head of BBC Daytime with your questions.

0:03:35 > 0:03:37The cream and the scum.

0:03:37 > 0:03:41The fleabag hostelries on the London Road,

0:03:41 > 0:03:46the chilly cathedrals where sour bishops crack their knuckles and plot.

0:03:46 > 0:03:50He gives us the clapped out actors and the greedy squires.

0:03:52 > 0:03:54So, there we go, quite a mixed bag

0:03:54 > 0:03:58and now we have the main man of BBC Daytime, Liam Keelan, welcome.

0:03:58 > 0:04:00Hi, Jeremy.

0:04:00 > 0:04:04Let's go straight to viewers' questions. Let me start with the 1952 show.

0:04:04 > 0:04:09Hi, Len Goodman here for another '50s foxtrot around my decade.

0:04:32 > 0:04:35People saying they rather like it and could there be some more?

0:04:35 > 0:04:38Yeah, definitely. I'm thrilled the viewers like that series.

0:04:38 > 0:04:42We've had a lot of success with history-related output in daytime.

0:04:42 > 0:04:47For example, we did 1952, we've done a series around the '60s,

0:04:47 > 0:04:49The Week We Went To War.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52Sometimes we paired them with dramas in the afternoon again.

0:04:52 > 0:04:54It's something we'll come back to.

0:04:54 > 0:04:57I've realised that you are the woman that I want.

0:04:57 > 0:05:01- I know it's been a somewhat unconventional start.- Not half.

0:05:01 > 0:05:04- We shouldn't wait any longer. - Music to my ears, Henry.

0:05:04 > 0:05:07Next, viewers complaining repeats are coming round too quickly.

0:05:20 > 0:05:22Poor Lily, it's Groundhog Day for her.

0:05:22 > 0:05:24Yeah, as a general rule we try

0:05:24 > 0:05:28and keep it to six months after a programme is first aired

0:05:28 > 0:05:33before we show it again, but on occasion that might not be the case.

0:05:33 > 0:05:37And quiz questions that people can remember from a game before?

0:05:37 > 0:05:42Well, again six months tends to be a general rule as with your show, Eggheads.

0:05:42 > 0:05:46It does make sense as well to give viewers the chance to see

0:05:46 > 0:05:48the best of our output again.

0:05:48 > 0:05:50So when it doesn't happen, is that a mistake

0:05:50 > 0:05:54or is it because there's a hole in the output?

0:05:54 > 0:05:57Yeah, it's because of the needs of the schedule.

0:05:57 > 0:05:59There will be a gap in the schedule

0:05:59 > 0:06:03where we need to repeat something, but it's not a general rule.

0:06:03 > 0:06:06We try and keep it to a minimum.

0:06:06 > 0:06:10Now a question about how you decide which daytime programmes from the week

0:06:10 > 0:06:12are put on air on daytimes at the weekends.

0:06:59 > 0:07:03There's an underlying thought in those comments

0:07:03 > 0:07:06that the standard of daytime in the week is lower

0:07:06 > 0:07:08and if it goes on at weekends, it's got to be raised.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11I don't think that's necessarily the case.

0:07:11 > 0:07:14The daytime audience generally is very, very broad.

0:07:14 > 0:07:19Even during the midweek, of course there's an older audience there

0:07:19 > 0:07:25but there's also shift workers, students, mums at home.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27It's a really broad audience.

0:07:27 > 0:07:30I wouldn't make any differentiation between that

0:07:30 > 0:07:32and the one that's on at the weekend.

0:07:32 > 0:07:34We do have a lot of shows that originated there,

0:07:34 > 0:07:39Saturday Kitchen is an important show for us and popular with the audience.

0:07:39 > 0:07:42You recently did a TV version of Just A Minute -

0:07:42 > 0:07:45the Radio 4 programme - and it's gone down rather well.

0:07:59 > 0:08:01- Happy hour, starting now.- I believe

0:08:01 > 0:08:03- some of the legislature.... - BUZZER

0:08:03 > 0:08:06- Julian, challenge. - Repetition of believe.

0:08:06 > 0:08:08Yes, you did say I believe before.

0:08:08 > 0:08:13He's awfully good! I don't know but it's so convincing. I probably did!

0:08:13 > 0:08:16I probably said rather and I probably said people.

0:08:16 > 0:08:18Just A Minute was loved on TV.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21Yeah, it was a real celebration of what that show is.

0:08:21 > 0:08:28It was great to coincide with the 45th anniversary and Nicholas and the whole gang got out for it.

0:08:28 > 0:08:30There aren't any plans to do more of them

0:08:30 > 0:08:34but we're always looking at Radio 4 and Radio 2 for those panel shows

0:08:34 > 0:08:36to see what could translate to television.

0:08:36 > 0:08:39So, it was a great thing to do.

0:08:39 > 0:08:43We've had some comments specifically about Crimewatch Roadshow

0:08:43 > 0:08:44and this is a complaint.

0:09:06 > 0:09:08That one was one we get a lot, actually.

0:09:08 > 0:09:13- The idea that there's an aggressive trailing inside programmes.- Yes.

0:09:13 > 0:09:15I think it's a fair point in some regards

0:09:15 > 0:09:20and we're trying to rein that back with some of the other shows we do.

0:09:20 > 0:09:22I take that on board.

0:09:22 > 0:09:24What about the first point - too loud background music -

0:09:24 > 0:09:28which is a thing that comes up again and again on Points Of View.

0:09:28 > 0:09:32- It's just annoying people. - Yeah, again I think that's something we could look at.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35- Until now, I wasn't aware of it. - It's in the Wanted Gallery.

0:09:35 > 0:09:39You're showing wanted people and end up being drowned out by music.

0:09:39 > 0:09:45Yes, in answer to the question we're constantly feeding back to

0:09:45 > 0:09:48the programme makers so that's part of what we do.

0:09:48 > 0:09:50So, we'll have a look at that.

0:09:50 > 0:09:54It's interesting you say that because we have viewers who wonder whether the controllers ever do.

0:09:54 > 0:09:55Listen to this.

0:10:19 > 0:10:23- Over to you.- I just accepted Crimewatch Roadshow, didn't I?

0:10:23 > 0:10:26- You did but then you don't do it. - I think we do take things on board.

0:10:26 > 0:10:30I couldn't do my job without accepting viewer feedback.

0:10:30 > 0:10:33It's absolutely every day for me

0:10:33 > 0:10:35whether it's how many people are watching,

0:10:35 > 0:10:37how much they've liked the show,

0:10:37 > 0:10:40whether they think it's a new and original programme.

0:10:40 > 0:10:43So, it's... We'd be lost without it really.

0:10:43 > 0:10:47Well, thank you for talking to us - Controller of BBC Daytime, Liam Keelan.

0:10:47 > 0:10:50There are other issues to look into this week

0:10:50 > 0:10:52so let's have a look at what's worrying you.

0:11:16 > 0:11:19Thank you-ou-ou!

0:11:19 > 0:11:23Hello and welcome to my special edition of Good News Best Bits.

0:11:23 > 0:11:25We've covered a lot of stories this series.

0:11:25 > 0:11:27Here are some of my favourite ones. Enjoy.

0:11:27 > 0:11:32It's not only BBC daytime that's accused of showing thinly-disguised repeats.

0:11:32 > 0:11:35On BBC Three we had Radio One's Hackney Weekend,

0:11:35 > 0:11:40the spectacle of an outdoor concert without the threat of getting wet,

0:11:40 > 0:11:41what's not to like?

0:11:46 > 0:11:48My heart is literally beating right now.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51Massive apologies that we had to cut Jack White short,

0:11:51 > 0:11:52but if you want to check that out,

0:11:52 > 0:11:55make sure you do online at the Radio One website.

0:12:15 > 0:12:19And sticking with music, it appears two unforgivable mistakes were made

0:12:19 > 0:12:23in the quarter-finals of Euro 2012, the big England/Italy game.

0:12:23 > 0:12:27First mistake was everything that happened on the pitch, let's not dwell on that.

0:12:27 > 0:12:29The second was the background music

0:12:29 > 0:12:34used during an item about the Italian, that's the keyword, side.

0:12:53 > 0:12:58The names don't trip off the tongue. Unpalatable tongue twisters

0:12:58 > 0:13:01are regularly on the footballing diet in Italy.

0:13:01 > 0:13:03The Totonero scandal, 1980.

0:13:03 > 0:13:07Players throwing matches, Paolo Rossi banished for two years.

0:13:07 > 0:13:09He came back just in time.

0:13:14 > 0:13:18Yep, that does...that does sound pretty Spanish to me.

0:13:18 > 0:13:21Now, this is our last programme before we come back in September

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