Episode 12

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0:00:10 > 0:00:13Good afternoon and welcome to Points of View

0:00:13 > 0:00:16and an unusual postbag pairing

0:00:16 > 0:00:19of ballroom dancing and political satire.

0:00:19 > 0:00:23No, John Sergeant hasn't reared his two left feet again on Strictly,

0:00:23 > 0:00:27but the glitter fest has partnered The Thick of It in apparently

0:00:27 > 0:00:31breaking taboos of taste and decency for many viewers.

0:00:31 > 0:00:35I need to know that you're really on top of things, Malcolm.

0:00:35 > 0:00:37- I do my (BLEEP) job. - Do you do your (BLEEP) job

0:00:37 > 0:00:39out of a sense of obligation or are you doing it

0:00:39 > 0:00:41because you actually believe in me?

0:00:41 > 0:00:44Let me (BLEEP) that one back at you. Do YOU believe in you?

0:00:44 > 0:00:47Cos I can't see any (BLEEP) fire in your eyes.

0:00:47 > 0:00:50I can't even see the clicking of the pilot light

0:00:50 > 0:00:52to try and get a tiny little flame going.

0:00:52 > 0:00:55What I do see is that you might any day decide,

0:00:55 > 0:00:58"Oh, I've (BLEEP) had enough," and go off and get a blanket from the car.

0:01:22 > 0:01:24And it wasn't just that programme.

0:01:24 > 0:01:27Viewers also contacted the BBC Audience Log

0:01:27 > 0:01:29to complain that skimpy outfits

0:01:29 > 0:01:32and suggestive dance moves on Strictly Come Dancing

0:01:32 > 0:01:36jar with their ideal of family viewing.

0:01:36 > 0:01:39Now, snapping at the heels of those appalled by bad language

0:01:39 > 0:01:42and dirty dancing are those straining at the leash

0:01:42 > 0:01:45to complain about One Man And His Dog Live.

0:01:45 > 0:01:48The sheepdog trials aired as expected last Saturday evening,

0:01:48 > 0:01:53but the billed results show on Sunday was initially delayed

0:01:53 > 0:01:55and then cancelled altogether

0:01:55 > 0:01:58when the Women's Open golf coverage overran.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01I think it's only right and proper that after everything

0:02:01 > 0:02:04that these players have been through over the last three days,

0:02:04 > 0:02:06we have to see this championship through.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09'One Man And His Dog' will now be shown next Saturday.'

0:02:37 > 0:02:40No notice and no apology is the accusation, then.

0:02:40 > 0:02:43What did the schedulers have to say for themselves?

0:03:08 > 0:03:10Aha! So only Saturday was live.

0:03:10 > 0:03:14No-one was waiting out in a field on Sunday,

0:03:14 > 0:03:18but plenty were clearly waiting disappointed on their sofas.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20Now, what constitutes news?

0:03:20 > 0:03:24A philosophical debate that journalists wrestle with

0:03:24 > 0:03:26and message boarders rowed about

0:03:26 > 0:03:30when Kate Middleton's swimwear choices or non-swimwear choices

0:03:30 > 0:03:33appeared to eclipse deaths in Afghanistan last week.

0:03:33 > 0:03:37But it's actually another example that had many viewers fuming.

0:03:37 > 0:03:39Fiona Bruce, currently presenting

0:03:39 > 0:03:43Antiques Roadshow's sister programme, Fake Or Fortune,

0:03:43 > 0:03:45also anchors the Six O'Clock News,

0:03:45 > 0:03:49and the bulletin on the Friday before the first episode

0:03:49 > 0:03:52of Fake Or Fortune included a full-length feature on...

0:03:52 > 0:03:54Fake Or Fortune.

0:03:54 > 0:03:56'A painting rediscovered,

0:03:56 > 0:04:01'recognised as from the brush of one of the finest Impressionist masters.'

0:04:01 > 0:04:05And you can see more on that story on Fake Or Fortune on BBC One,

0:04:05 > 0:04:07this Sunday evening at 6.30.

0:04:19 > 0:04:21Valid news uncovered by a journalist

0:04:21 > 0:04:24exploiting her access to an interesting story

0:04:24 > 0:04:26or a programme plug?

0:04:26 > 0:04:29It's pretty clear which Bob and Kate saw it as.

0:04:29 > 0:04:32Now, BBC2 is tackling the Vikings.

0:04:32 > 0:04:34Clearly, they are 1,300 years too late

0:04:34 > 0:04:37to stop their invasion of our shores,

0:04:37 > 0:04:41but with the elaborately-coiffed archaeologist Neil Oliver at the helm,

0:04:41 > 0:04:47they have set sail on an ambitious voyage of documentary discovery.

0:04:47 > 0:04:52And this splendid individual is the son.

0:04:55 > 0:04:59The fact that his hair has been preserved,

0:04:59 > 0:05:04this flamboyant hairstyle just adds to his allure.

0:05:21 > 0:05:23Neil seems to be an acquired taste, then.

0:05:23 > 0:05:26But fast forward now to modern history,

0:05:26 > 0:05:31and Wartime Farm is the latest in the Living Experience series,

0:05:31 > 0:05:36this time exploring the agricultural industry between 1939 and '45.

0:05:36 > 0:05:40Now, the historians fronting this programme have been praised,

0:05:40 > 0:05:44although there are claims of holes in the historical research.

0:06:16 > 0:06:19So here we have a programme that is well presented,

0:06:19 > 0:06:21but with some dubious prop choices.

0:06:21 > 0:06:24Viewers absolutely love content, they can't get enough of it.

0:06:24 > 0:06:27You can get as detailed as you like.

0:06:27 > 0:06:30Of course, these viewers, some of them have very sharp eyes

0:06:30 > 0:06:33and spot things that they think are mistakes,

0:06:33 > 0:06:35and in some ways I love them for that,

0:06:35 > 0:06:38because it means they're really watching closely.

0:06:38 > 0:06:40In terms of what we're doing on the show, we're not...

0:06:40 > 0:06:45we have to go with what's safe to use, what's available.

0:06:45 > 0:06:46Sometimes things are too fragile,

0:06:46 > 0:06:50the really authentic tractor for instance, is too fragile.

0:06:50 > 0:06:54And so with incredible advice from all kinds of historians

0:06:54 > 0:06:58and societies, we then choose the next best thing.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01So in the end, if people are watching that closely, I love them for it.

0:07:01 > 0:07:05A glimpse of the tribulations faced by wartime farmers.

0:07:05 > 0:07:08Programme makers are quite keen on glimpses.

0:07:08 > 0:07:10They're known in the trade as "teases,"

0:07:10 > 0:07:13a little taster of what a decorated room will eventually look like,

0:07:13 > 0:07:17or a snatch from a forthcoming row on a fly-on-the-wall documentary.

0:07:17 > 0:07:21They're all meant to keep viewers glued to their seats.

0:07:21 > 0:07:22Feeling the adhesive, Lynn?

0:07:25 > 0:07:27I wrote to Points Of View

0:07:27 > 0:07:30because I'm fed up with the programme makers,

0:07:30 > 0:07:34where they show the end result at the beginning of the programme.

0:07:39 > 0:07:43Although I do enjoy the journey, the element of surprise is lost

0:07:43 > 0:07:45when they show it at the beginning.

0:07:48 > 0:07:52I assume from their perspective, they think it may keep people watching,

0:07:52 > 0:07:54but it spoils it for me.

0:07:54 > 0:07:57I just think, "I've seen it now, I don't need to watch it."

0:08:00 > 0:08:04I think one way to resolve the situation would be to say,

0:08:04 > 0:08:05at the beginning of the programme,

0:08:05 > 0:08:09"If you don't want to see the end results, please look away now,"

0:08:09 > 0:08:10like they do with the football.

0:08:10 > 0:08:13'And there's a surprise in store for one heir

0:08:13 > 0:08:16'who believed her family were poor.'

0:08:16 > 0:08:21This was a complete surprise to me. My family had no money at all.

0:08:21 > 0:08:23At the moment, it's my husband

0:08:23 > 0:08:26putting his hands over my face saying, "Look away now."

0:08:26 > 0:08:28I guess the only problem with that is that programme makers

0:08:28 > 0:08:32never want to tell you to look away from the programme they have made.

0:08:32 > 0:08:34Now, the recent publication of the findings

0:08:34 > 0:08:38of the Hillsborough investigation led to extensive news coverage,

0:08:38 > 0:08:41but the night before the report was published,

0:08:41 > 0:08:44a documentary that transmitted only in the north-west

0:08:44 > 0:08:46was praised for its journalism.

0:09:00 > 0:09:01A call from the message board

0:09:01 > 0:09:03for that to have been shown nationwide,

0:09:03 > 0:09:05an idea echoed by Charles Stuart,

0:09:05 > 0:09:10who thinks he's got the perfect plan for where and when to broadcast it.

0:09:10 > 0:09:16I have an idea of what to do with BBC One HD on Freeview

0:09:16 > 0:09:20and presumably satellite as well

0:09:20 > 0:09:26when there's local news on BBC One High Definition.

0:09:26 > 0:09:32I would like to see a compilation programme of the best stories

0:09:32 > 0:09:36and most interesting stories from around the country.

0:09:36 > 0:09:39Well, Charles, we've been told that regionally-made programmes

0:09:39 > 0:09:44are not yet shot in HD, so couldn't be shown on the HD channel,

0:09:44 > 0:09:47but perhaps when the technology catches up, you never know.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50Now, I'm sorry to have to inform addicted pop quizzers

0:09:50 > 0:09:53that withdrawal symptoms will kick in tonight,

0:09:53 > 0:09:56cos this will be the first Sunday evening for quite some time

0:09:56 > 0:10:00that Top Ten aficionados will not be getting their fix

0:10:00 > 0:10:02of the '60s drama Inspector George Gently,

0:10:02 > 0:10:07and gleefully pointing out to us all its musical errors.

0:10:07 > 0:10:10The four-part series began with an episode called

0:10:10 > 0:10:15Gently Northern Soul, which was itself a misnomer, as the series

0:10:15 > 0:10:17is set in 1968

0:10:17 > 0:10:21and the phrase "Northern Soul" wasn't coined until the 1970s.

0:10:22 > 0:10:27Incidental music bloopers include using Marvin Gaye's Let's Get It On,

0:10:27 > 0:10:29which was not released until 1973.

0:10:33 > 0:10:37And Lean On Me, which Bill Withers did not record until 1972.

0:10:37 > 0:10:40# Lean on me

0:10:40 > 0:10:43# When you're not strong... #

0:10:43 > 0:10:48Jethro Tull's Living In The Past was only a year out, released in '69,

0:10:48 > 0:10:51but as every pop quizzer knows, you don't get points for being close.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54Well, thanks to Richard and Mick and Andy and Michael

0:10:54 > 0:10:56for pointing them out.

0:10:56 > 0:10:59How will pop pickers of a more mature vintage

0:10:59 > 0:11:01fill their time now, I wonder?

0:11:01 > 0:11:05Possibly by watching a satirical sketch show on BBC Three

0:11:05 > 0:11:09aimed at a teens-and-20s market, and I'm not being facetious.

0:11:09 > 0:11:12It would appear that the anarchic youth humour

0:11:12 > 0:11:14of The Revolution Will Be Televised,

0:11:14 > 0:11:17which was praised on last week's programme,

0:11:17 > 0:11:19has attracted what the bean counters call

0:11:19 > 0:11:22an unexpectedly wide demographic.

0:11:22 > 0:11:26The trailer of the programme looked quite quirky when I watched it,

0:11:26 > 0:11:29so I thought, "Well, I'll have a go at the full programme."

0:11:31 > 0:11:34'I'm Dale Maily,

0:11:34 > 0:11:37'fearless hetero journalist who's not afraid to be unafraid.'

0:11:37 > 0:11:42And having now watched it two or three times, it does remind me

0:11:42 > 0:11:47of the political satirical programmes that we used to watch in the 1960s.

0:11:47 > 0:11:48That Was The Week That Was.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51# That was the week that was... #

0:11:51 > 0:11:53Another news item this week, of course,

0:11:53 > 0:11:56came from the sadly beleaguered Vietnam.

0:11:56 > 0:11:59# On Monday, not much can be said to have occurred... #

0:11:59 > 0:12:02American Intelligence are in a pretty plight,

0:12:02 > 0:12:04because, of course, all their contacts

0:12:04 > 0:12:06have been destroyed in the last day or so...

0:12:06 > 0:12:09# On Wednesday, the silence continued complete... #

0:12:09 > 0:12:12..with the result that the capital of that country

0:12:12 > 0:12:14will now be referred to as CIA-gon.

0:12:14 > 0:12:18They are doorstepping our politicians and rightly so.

0:12:18 > 0:12:21George, a GCSE Maths textbook...

0:12:21 > 0:12:24Because nobody has given them answers.

0:12:24 > 0:12:26They are getting quite near the knuckle,

0:12:26 > 0:12:29I'm sure somebody might get hit at some stage

0:12:29 > 0:12:31because they are pushing their luck, I think.

0:12:41 > 0:12:43I think they're very brave.

0:12:43 > 0:12:46There's part of me that is cringing actually,

0:12:46 > 0:12:50because I am worried for them that they will go too far.

0:12:56 > 0:12:59They have got some nerve, haven't they?

0:12:59 > 0:13:02It's for an N Clegg. If you can just let him know that they're here.

0:13:02 > 0:13:05Just returning the undelivered promises.

0:13:05 > 0:13:08I'd like to congratulate the whole team, the researchers,

0:13:08 > 0:13:11the two guys that are actually going accosting people in the streets

0:13:11 > 0:13:16and knocking on the doors and, erm... to carry on the good work.

0:13:16 > 0:13:19Don't forget, next week we have an interview special

0:13:19 > 0:13:22with the chairman of the BBC Trust, Lord Patten.

0:13:22 > 0:13:24He is in the hot seat, ready for your questions,

0:13:24 > 0:13:27so make sure you get them into us. Here's the old fashioned address.

0:13:31 > 0:13:35You're also more than welcome to email. The address there...

0:13:37 > 0:13:40Jump onto the message board, always lively...

0:13:42 > 0:13:44..or phone us. The number is charged

0:13:44 > 0:13:47as a local rate call from any landline.

0:13:47 > 0:13:48Here it is.

0:13:51 > 0:13:53Goodbye.

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