Episode 3

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0:00:10 > 0:00:14Good afternoon and welcome to Points of View -

0:00:14 > 0:00:18your chance to take over the BBC and have your views aired on what

0:00:18 > 0:00:21you've been watching - sometimes before you even watch.

0:00:21 > 0:00:24As was the case this week with Monday's planned

0:00:24 > 0:00:27edition of Panorama featuring North Korea.

0:00:27 > 0:00:32No wonder North Korea is fast running out of friends.

0:00:32 > 0:00:36The controversial decision to allow reporter John Sweeney to join

0:00:36 > 0:00:39a group of students from the London School of Economics

0:00:39 > 0:00:40on their visit to the country

0:00:40 > 0:00:44made news before the programme even went to air.

0:00:44 > 0:00:47And when it did broadcast, many of you were left

0:00:47 > 0:00:50wondering if the controversy could have been avoided altogether.

0:01:28 > 0:01:32We put your criticisms to the editor of Panorama, Tom Giles.

0:01:32 > 0:01:34A lot of the hype, a lot of the fuss

0:01:34 > 0:01:37and the controversy wasn't actually stirred up by us.

0:01:37 > 0:01:40But aside from that, I'd say that this was a programme that was

0:01:40 > 0:01:43played out to a mass audience on BBC One of well over five million.

0:01:43 > 0:01:46That's the highest audience that Panorama's been able to get

0:01:46 > 0:01:50since it went to 8:30 in 2007, and that should tell you there was

0:01:50 > 0:01:52a huge public interest in what was going on in North Korea.

0:01:52 > 0:01:56We were able to show that audience what was going on at that exact

0:01:56 > 0:01:59historic moment when there was no other independent journalist there.

0:01:59 > 0:02:03At the time when the regime was making extraordinary threats.

0:02:03 > 0:02:05So I'm pretty confident that a lot of people came to it

0:02:05 > 0:02:08and did learn something insightful and new.

0:02:08 > 0:02:12More frustration, this time from Formula 1 fans who say the BBC

0:02:12 > 0:02:15is ruining their enjoyment of the season

0:02:15 > 0:02:17by letting the cat out of the bag.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24Under new arrangements, BBC and Sky Sports now share the rights

0:02:24 > 0:02:26to broadcast Formula 1 live.

0:02:26 > 0:02:29The BBC will show nine of the rounds live,

0:02:29 > 0:02:32with Sky Sports showing the remaining 11.

0:02:32 > 0:02:34When they don't have the live rights,

0:02:34 > 0:02:37the BBC will air highlight programmes later in the day.

0:02:37 > 0:02:40Hello and welcome to qualifying for the Chinese Grand Prix.

0:02:40 > 0:02:44The first of the BBC's live Grand Prix coverage

0:02:44 > 0:02:47came last Saturday, from the Shanghai International Circuit.

0:02:47 > 0:02:51The qualifying round was broadcast at the ungodly hour of 6:00am.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55That's great for the early risers.

0:02:55 > 0:02:58But for those of you hoping to catch the sporting drama on the

0:02:58 > 0:03:02highlights programme at the far more sociable hour of 1:00,

0:03:02 > 0:03:05the TV news was out to spoil the party -

0:03:05 > 0:03:07without so much as a warning.

0:03:07 > 0:03:10Lewis Hamilton has qualified for pole position in tomorrow's

0:03:10 > 0:03:12Chinese Grand Prix.

0:03:33 > 0:03:36So is it just a question of tough luck for those who don't

0:03:36 > 0:03:37get up early in the morning?

0:03:37 > 0:03:41We put the question to Richard Burgess, Head of Sports News.

0:03:41 > 0:03:42We do carry warnings.

0:03:42 > 0:03:45We carry a warning every time ahead of a highlights programme

0:03:45 > 0:03:48when we haven't shown the race live.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52That addresses the major concern of most of the audience.

0:03:52 > 0:03:55We also do the same with football ahead of Match Of The Day.

0:03:55 > 0:03:59And we also do the same with other sports, if we haven't shown it live.

0:03:59 > 0:04:02If we've shown the race live, then we don't give warnings.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04It would seem they're not going to back down on this one.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07If you want to avoid the results from trackside, you're either

0:04:07 > 0:04:10going to have to get up early for the live programming

0:04:10 > 0:04:14or avoid BBC news for the day!

0:04:14 > 0:04:16Now, the issue of subtitling.

0:04:16 > 0:04:20A valued service, but earning a "could do better" mark from some.

0:04:20 > 0:04:27Can somebody tell me why the BBC subtitles are not in sync with

0:04:27 > 0:04:30the pictures and are not accurate?

0:04:39 > 0:04:42There we are. No subtitles.

0:04:42 > 0:04:43It'll come in a minute.

0:04:46 > 0:04:50There you are. "You are watching Breakfast on BBC News."

0:04:50 > 0:04:53What was it? Three, four seconds?

0:04:53 > 0:04:56Inevitably, when you're subtitling a programme live, there is

0:04:56 > 0:05:01a delay between when the viewer hears the programme audio

0:05:01 > 0:05:03and the subtitle appears on the screen.

0:05:03 > 0:05:06A restructuring firm will buy the 141 stores...

0:05:06 > 0:05:09Predominantly, we use respeaking technology,

0:05:09 > 0:05:13where a subtitler will sit and listen to the programme's sound

0:05:13 > 0:05:17and they will respeak the dialogue into a speech recognition engine,

0:05:17 > 0:05:20which then translates that audio into text.

0:05:20 > 0:05:22And that's what appears on screen.

0:05:22 > 0:05:27We access the programme audio as early as possible.

0:05:27 > 0:05:30And often we are listening to the sound coming directly

0:05:30 > 0:05:34out of the studio, rather than waiting for that to go via

0:05:34 > 0:05:37satellite or via a distribution network to the viewer.

0:05:37 > 0:05:41There's also the problem of the accuracy.

0:05:41 > 0:05:46"This is the day the Gazan met the roof."

0:05:46 > 0:05:47What on earth does that mean?

0:05:47 > 0:05:50'I don't even know how people sound any more... '

0:05:50 > 0:05:53The subtitlers take a lot of time to train

0:05:53 > 0:05:57vocabulary into their dictionaries.

0:05:57 > 0:06:00Kim Jong Un, the Supreme Leader. Ban Ki Moon.

0:06:00 > 0:06:04Inevitably, sometimes the speech recognition engine does not

0:06:04 > 0:06:08translate what the subtitler is saying 100% accurately.

0:06:08 > 0:06:09And that's when mistakes occur.

0:06:09 > 0:06:14"Do you want O wind and a raised that picked?"

0:06:14 > 0:06:16We do understand the frustrations that viewers feel.

0:06:16 > 0:06:20We are in the process this year of rolling out new software

0:06:20 > 0:06:21which will see a positive step change

0:06:21 > 0:06:23in the levels of textual accuracy

0:06:23 > 0:06:27that you see on-screen, without making a compromise

0:06:27 > 0:06:31on the delay to those subtitles reaching the screen.

0:06:31 > 0:06:34New software. Well, it's going to spoil the fun,

0:06:34 > 0:06:38but it should make the subtitles we see on-screen less muddled.

0:06:38 > 0:06:42Now, a muddle isn't something you'd expect from the high-brow quiz show

0:06:42 > 0:06:44that is University Challenge -

0:06:45 > 0:06:48the long-running series that pits the brightest of our students

0:06:48 > 0:06:51against one another in a battle of brains.

0:06:51 > 0:06:55But the brains behind the questions seem to have

0:06:55 > 0:06:57suffered a lapse in concentration.

0:06:57 > 0:07:00This is a question from the episode broadcast

0:07:00 > 0:07:02on the 11th February this year.

0:07:02 > 0:07:06Le Cid, La Veuve and Cinna are among the tragedies of which dramatist

0:07:06 > 0:07:08born in Rouen in 1606 and a rival of Racine?

0:07:08 > 0:07:12And this is that very same question from the episode just

0:07:12 > 0:07:14nine weeks later in the series.

0:07:14 > 0:07:17Le Cid, La Veuve and Cinna are among the tragedies of which dramatist

0:07:17 > 0:07:19born in Rouen in 1606 and a rival of Racine?

0:07:19 > 0:07:21In fact, three of the exact same questions were

0:07:21 > 0:07:23aired across the two programmes.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25- Sorry, we don't know. - It's Corneille.

0:07:37 > 0:07:41Did the programme makers think their duplication would go unnoticed?

0:07:50 > 0:07:52Quiz makers be warned -

0:07:52 > 0:07:55you can't get anything past the Points of View customers.

0:07:55 > 0:07:59And you were very engaged last Friday with Have I Got News for You.

0:07:59 > 0:08:02I'm Brian Blessed! Yes, it's me!

0:08:02 > 0:08:03BOOMING LAUGH

0:08:03 > 0:08:05Actor Brian Blessed was tasked

0:08:05 > 0:08:08with chairing the weekly satirical panel show.

0:08:08 > 0:08:09Am I on that?

0:08:09 > 0:08:12His failure at times to include the panel members

0:08:12 > 0:08:13really raised hackles.

0:08:36 > 0:08:38Have I Got News For You,

0:08:38 > 0:08:41praised by you on this programme just last week,

0:08:41 > 0:08:44but a very different story this week.

0:08:44 > 0:08:46From hero to zero in seven days.

0:08:46 > 0:08:48Time now for the odd one out round.

0:08:48 > 0:08:49< It's you.

0:08:49 > 0:08:51THEY ALL LAUGH

0:08:51 > 0:08:54Now, remember the great national tripod shortage where

0:08:54 > 0:08:58wobbly camera work used to be de rigeur.

0:08:58 > 0:09:00Some of you have been in touch to say it's back.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03It's not just the wobbles, it's the fast moves,

0:09:03 > 0:09:05quick edits and out-of-focus shots

0:09:05 > 0:09:08that are making a lot of people feel a bit at sea.

0:09:08 > 0:09:12Hello. Things have been pretty steady at the BBC of late.

0:09:12 > 0:09:16But I've noticed the old woozy cam is coming back into fashion.

0:09:16 > 0:09:21Will you stop it and give me a steady shot!

0:09:21 > 0:09:24# Shake it, shake, shake it, shake it, shake it

0:09:24 > 0:09:27# Shake it like a Polaroid picture

0:09:27 > 0:09:29Really straightforwardly well executed.

0:09:29 > 0:09:32# Shake it, shake, shake it, shake it, shake it... #

0:09:32 > 0:09:37I turned on the Sewing Bee expecting to be taught how to darn my socks or

0:09:37 > 0:09:42turn up my trousers, and the camera technique immediately put me off.

0:09:42 > 0:09:45And after five minutes, I had to stop watching it

0:09:45 > 0:09:50because they were zooming in and out. It was going in and out of focus.

0:09:50 > 0:09:52'Patrick and May's first challenge will test how good

0:09:52 > 0:09:55'the sewers are at following a basic pattern.'

0:09:55 > 0:09:59After a few minutes watching this, I did feel slightly odd.

0:09:59 > 0:10:01I feel as though I'm on a rollercoaster.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03It's the zooming in and out.

0:10:03 > 0:10:07You do really feel quite queasy after a time. Does it add to it?

0:10:07 > 0:10:10Does it make it seem more dynamic?

0:10:10 > 0:10:16I'm not quite sure that sewing up a pair of trousers needs to be dynamic.

0:10:16 > 0:10:18Ha! D'you see what he did there?

0:10:18 > 0:10:21And wobble-cam is by no means confined

0:10:21 > 0:10:24to the sedate world of sewing, because many more of you

0:10:24 > 0:10:27have noticed shaky shots creeping back elsewhere.

0:10:27 > 0:10:31At the moment, you have warnings of flash photography

0:10:31 > 0:10:33coming up in programmes.

0:10:33 > 0:10:36So perhaps you should have nausea warnings.

0:10:36 > 0:10:38Or woozy warnings.

0:10:38 > 0:10:40I like that.

0:10:40 > 0:10:44So are we witnessing the return of motion sickness to our screens?

0:10:44 > 0:10:48We asked the powers that be who commission the factual programmes.

0:11:08 > 0:11:11If you spot programmes on the move, do let us know.

0:11:11 > 0:11:15BBC Four's The Secret Life of Rockpools proved

0:11:15 > 0:11:17a real hit on Tuesday night.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20Palaeontologist Professor Richard Fortey took us

0:11:20 > 0:11:24to an underwater world we know so little about.

0:11:24 > 0:11:26And not a wobble cam in sight.

0:11:26 > 0:11:29In a rockpool, there is nothing quite as sinister

0:11:29 > 0:11:31as a marauding starfish.

0:11:32 > 0:11:34Using the edge of the shell,

0:11:34 > 0:11:39a limpet can push the starfish away to prevent it climbing on top.

0:11:39 > 0:11:44- There he goes. Look at that. - That's really very agitated.

0:11:44 > 0:11:46It becomes like an animated mushroom.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51We can't say that rockpools lack drama.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05Praise too for Casualty.

0:12:05 > 0:12:09Last week's episode tackled the really difficult, and for some,

0:12:09 > 0:12:14disturbing issue of female genital mutilation or FGM, as it is known.

0:12:14 > 0:12:18The writer Sasha Hails is with me. Let's see a clip first.

0:12:18 > 0:12:21Was it your sister that was due to have the operation?

0:12:23 > 0:12:26Are you worried that someone might take her on another flight?

0:12:32 > 0:12:34As long as you're a patient in this hospital,

0:12:34 > 0:12:36I can help you and your little sister.

0:12:55 > 0:12:58I'm pleased to say the writer, Sasha, joins us now.

0:12:58 > 0:13:00Why tell this story?

0:13:00 > 0:13:01Ten years ago, there was

0:13:01 > 0:13:04a little girl who was affected by this in our neighbourhood.

0:13:04 > 0:13:06I was haunted by her story ever since.

0:13:06 > 0:13:08I've been looking for a way to tell it and finally,

0:13:08 > 0:13:11Casualty had the courage to take it on.

0:13:11 > 0:13:12And you had expert advice.

0:13:12 > 0:13:15From Integrate Bristol and Daughters of Eve -

0:13:15 > 0:13:18young people directly affected by this.

0:13:18 > 0:13:19And when you talk to them,

0:13:19 > 0:13:22you realise just how completely important it is.

0:13:22 > 0:13:23Thank you.

0:13:23 > 0:13:25And that is it from us for this week.

0:13:25 > 0:13:27So keep in touch, please.

0:13:27 > 0:13:29By post - at our new address, remember.

0:13:35 > 0:13:39By phone. The number is charged as a local rate call from any landline.

0:13:44 > 0:13:47Or join the messageboard. It's always lively there.

0:13:49 > 0:13:52Finally, there's email.

0:13:52 > 0:13:53Goodbye.

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