Episode 4

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0:00:10 > 0:00:13Good afternoon and welcome to Points Of View,

0:00:13 > 0:00:17your chance to air your views on the TV that you've been watching -

0:00:17 > 0:00:19and for some, re-watching,

0:00:19 > 0:00:23because this week there has been an overwhelming sense of deja vu.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25You go to BBC One...

0:00:25 > 0:00:29It's a fantastic channel but during the day,

0:00:29 > 0:00:30you don't want to watch it

0:00:30 > 0:00:33because it's showing repeat after repeat after repeat.

0:00:33 > 0:00:37Today, we're down under so let's go bargain hunting.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44Five days a week, Monday to Friday, I'll sit down to watch things

0:00:44 > 0:00:47that I've watched before.

0:00:47 > 0:00:52'Today, we're down under so let's go bargain hunting. Yeah!'

0:00:53 > 0:00:56It's annoying. It really winds you up.

0:00:56 > 0:00:58You think, "I've seen this."

0:00:58 > 0:01:02I know who wins, who loses.

0:01:02 > 0:01:04I know who's bought this house on Homes Under The Hammer...

0:01:04 > 0:01:08Lot 37 is a residential building plot with planning permission.

0:01:08 > 0:01:10..from 2009.

0:01:10 > 0:01:12You've seen them two or three times anyway.

0:01:12 > 0:01:14Start me at 100 if you will.

0:01:14 > 0:01:16You're talking about five days a week.

0:01:21 > 0:01:24At 9.15, Heir Hunters - that's a repeat.

0:01:24 > 0:01:26Homes Under The Hammer - another repeat.

0:01:26 > 0:01:29Bargain Hunt - repeat.

0:01:29 > 0:01:32Perfection - all repeats.

0:01:32 > 0:01:34Saturday - not bad.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36But hang on.

0:01:37 > 0:01:41After Football Focus, you might get an hour of Bargain Hunt.

0:01:41 > 0:01:42This happens so rarely!

0:01:42 > 0:01:46Another repeat! I think it's a bit of a joke.

0:01:46 > 0:01:51If you're going to deliver quality, then you've got to have originality.

0:01:51 > 0:01:54And they're not doing that, are they?

0:01:54 > 0:01:58Well, the whole theme of repeats is - well, how do I say this? -

0:01:58 > 0:02:01one that repeats here at Points Of View. Comes up again and again.

0:02:01 > 0:02:06BBCs One and Two daytime are the biggest offenders.

0:02:26 > 0:02:29We're all well aware the BBC is having to make cutbacks

0:02:29 > 0:02:32in the face of a freeze in the TV licence.

0:02:32 > 0:02:36We'd been warned last year that BBC Two would have to show more repeats,

0:02:36 > 0:02:40but how does that explain what is happening on BBC One?

0:02:40 > 0:02:44Well, here is the new controller of BBC Daytime, Damian Kavanagh.

0:02:44 > 0:02:47For us to be able to continue to do the distinctive programming

0:02:47 > 0:02:49that we aspire to do on BBC One, we have to play some repeats.

0:02:49 > 0:02:54If we didn't play any repeats, we wouldn't be able to afford to do any original drama in the afternoons.

0:02:54 > 0:02:57We wouldn't be able to afford to continue doing campaigning shows.

0:02:57 > 0:03:00We're very proud to be able to do event shows like Remembrance Week,

0:03:00 > 0:03:02which just won an RTS award last week.

0:03:02 > 0:03:04We want to be able to continue to do those

0:03:04 > 0:03:07but without having repeats in the mix, or as part of the mix,

0:03:07 > 0:03:09we simply wouldn't be able to afford them.

0:03:09 > 0:03:13And it's not just the fact that programmes are being repeated -

0:03:13 > 0:03:15they're also coming round too quickly.

0:03:15 > 0:03:20On Monday, Homes Under The Hammer had a real air of familiarity about it.

0:03:20 > 0:03:23So here are what today's bidders decided to buy

0:03:23 > 0:03:25when they put their hands in the air.

0:03:25 > 0:03:29The programme originally aired on BBC One in February last year

0:03:29 > 0:03:31and was put in cold storage until last week.

0:03:31 > 0:03:37It's enjoyed three airings in just five days on BBC One and Two.

0:03:37 > 0:03:38..today's bidders decided to buy

0:03:38 > 0:03:40when they put their hands in the air.

0:03:49 > 0:03:53Is the new controller able to give guarantees that this should not be happening?

0:03:53 > 0:03:57I'm happy to give a guarantee that we will endeavour to leave

0:03:57 > 0:04:01at least six months between a repeat of any programme on the same channel.

0:04:01 > 0:04:04However, we will repeat shows within the Sign Zone on BBC Two.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07The Sign Zone now has a much more prominent slot on BBC Two

0:04:07 > 0:04:09so you will see more repeats within there.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12I have had a look into the example you gave about Homes Under The Hammer

0:04:12 > 0:04:14and it seems that a mistake was made there.

0:04:14 > 0:04:18I think the first transmission went out in February of 2012.

0:04:18 > 0:04:19It wasn't repeated for 14 months,

0:04:19 > 0:04:23which is quite a decent amount of time, I think, between transmissions.

0:04:23 > 0:04:27However, the final episode went out again when it should've, perhaps, been another episode

0:04:27 > 0:04:30and we will try and ensure that that never happens again.

0:04:30 > 0:04:32But what about new shows?

0:04:32 > 0:04:33Only six weeks into the job,

0:04:33 > 0:04:36what plans has the new controller got for daytime?

0:04:36 > 0:04:39We've got some new, exciting series coming up.

0:04:39 > 0:04:43We've got The £1 House, where we'll explore the transformation of the houses sold in Stoke for £1.

0:04:43 > 0:04:47We've got a series called The Specials, where we've got unique access to special constables

0:04:47 > 0:04:50and the work they're doing on the streets across the UK.

0:04:50 > 0:04:53We've got a series called Reunited, where we're reuniting people

0:04:53 > 0:04:57whose lives have been brought together by the hand of fate and they haven't met since that day.

0:04:57 > 0:05:01We are very excited about the developments and the new ideas that we have going forward

0:05:01 > 0:05:05and I think there'll be a lot for the audience to enjoy on BBC daytime over the coming months and years.

0:05:05 > 0:05:08Damian Kavanagh, the controller of Daytime,

0:05:08 > 0:05:12and we'll watch with interest to see those changes coming through.

0:05:12 > 0:05:14Now, Tuesday was St George's Day,

0:05:14 > 0:05:17the national patron saint of England.

0:05:17 > 0:05:19But according to some of our viewers,

0:05:19 > 0:05:22you might never have known from watching the BBC.

0:05:38 > 0:05:43Well, we've carried out just a little bit of research into Tuesday's programming

0:05:43 > 0:05:47and we found quite a few references, actually, to the English patron saint.

0:05:47 > 0:05:49And happy St George's Day.

0:05:49 > 0:05:52The Chancellor chose St George's Day to address business leaders.

0:05:52 > 0:05:56The Duchess was greeted by children celebrating St George's Day.

0:05:56 > 0:05:58And what with it being St George's Day...

0:05:58 > 0:06:00- And a happy St George's Day.- Yes!

0:06:00 > 0:06:04OK, so not exactly what you'd call wall-to-wall coverage -

0:06:04 > 0:06:06more calendar references -

0:06:06 > 0:06:10but you'd expect Songs Of Praise to set the record straight, wouldn't you?

0:06:10 > 0:06:14Just 48 hours before the big day, there was little sign of St George.

0:06:27 > 0:06:31Does he not deserve the same standing as his Celtic colleagues?

0:06:31 > 0:06:33It might be a little late but...

0:07:01 > 0:07:06So it seems Songs Of Praise has no intention of ignoring good old St George.

0:07:06 > 0:07:10He will just be celebrated a week later than some had expected.

0:07:10 > 0:07:14And by the way, that programme airs this afternoon at four o'clock, BBC One.

0:07:14 > 0:07:17Now, staying with the theme of patriotism,

0:07:17 > 0:07:22Wednesday's Daily Politics show got in a muddle over flags,

0:07:22 > 0:07:25as one eagle-eyed viewer points out.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27As a history student, I understand the importance of flags,

0:07:27 > 0:07:32so I'm disappointed with the Daily Politics confusing the Bulgarian and Romanian flags.

0:07:32 > 0:07:34Does the BBC need help identifying the two flags?

0:07:34 > 0:07:36..1% of working-age Romanians...

0:07:36 > 0:07:38I did say "eagle-eyed".

0:07:38 > 0:07:41Here's what the team at Daily Politics had to say.

0:07:50 > 0:07:53Yeah, and graphics - errors in graphics -

0:07:53 > 0:07:56we seem to come back to again and again here.

0:07:56 > 0:07:57Something else for you now.

0:07:57 > 0:08:03Documentaries - is the BBC behind the times in the way it tells factual stories?

0:08:04 > 0:08:07I feel really let down by the BBC over the last ten or so years

0:08:07 > 0:08:10in terms of quality, but particularly documentaries.

0:08:10 > 0:08:13They seem to have swapped Savile Row, in terms of quality,

0:08:13 > 0:08:15for just mainstream high street.

0:08:15 > 0:08:18Documentaries seem to be more focused on the presenters.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21It's almost their name before the actual subject matter.

0:08:21 > 0:08:22..by evolution.

0:08:25 > 0:08:28I'm Egyptologist Dr Joanne Fletcher.

0:08:28 > 0:08:32I feel that the BBC should be, you know, at the cutting edge.

0:08:32 > 0:08:37Looking at, say, this year's 2013 Oscar-nominated documentaries, you've got stuff like

0:08:37 > 0:08:40The Invisible War and The Gatekeepers

0:08:40 > 0:08:43and neither of those are presenter-led.

0:08:43 > 0:08:45The story takes centre stage.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48Documentary is an art form - it really is -

0:08:48 > 0:08:51and at the core of them there's always brilliant, brilliant stories.

0:08:51 > 0:08:57But the BBC, perhaps, is letting the story take second place

0:08:57 > 0:09:00to the presenters and, you know,

0:09:00 > 0:09:03their preamble and their egos, really.

0:09:03 > 0:09:06This isn't very professional, is it?

0:09:08 > 0:09:09It's so beautiful.

0:09:09 > 0:09:14You know, "My name's Kenny Swifthammer and I'm fascinated by iguanas."

0:09:14 > 0:09:16I'm Margaret Mountford.

0:09:16 > 0:09:19I've always been fascinated by ancient history.

0:09:19 > 0:09:20You want to say,

0:09:20 > 0:09:24"Just tell me the story. What's the story here? It's not really about you, is it?"

0:09:24 > 0:09:27Pompeii's a bigger story than Margaret from The Apprentice.

0:09:30 > 0:09:34The blast here would have vaporised a city larger than London.

0:09:34 > 0:09:37I don't really want to see them, you know, flying all over the place

0:09:37 > 0:09:39in a helicopter or looking rugged and windswept everywhere.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43I just really want the subject matter to take centre stage, not the presenter.

0:09:43 > 0:09:45I personally would just like a voice-over.

0:09:45 > 0:09:49Decent script and a voice-over and lots of visuals.

0:09:49 > 0:09:52Emma Swain is the BBC's person responsible.

0:09:52 > 0:09:57Does she think the Beeb is out of step in its style of documentary making?

0:09:57 > 0:10:00What we're trying to do is deliver range, so...

0:10:00 > 0:10:04And if you look in detail at all of the films

0:10:04 > 0:10:06we put out across all of the channels,

0:10:06 > 0:10:11there's some fantastic author-driven, non-presented documentary,

0:10:11 > 0:10:14which lots of audiences enjoy.

0:10:14 > 0:10:20So I would never say, "If you want to make a non-presenter film, you can't come to the BBC."

0:10:20 > 0:10:22Quite the opposite, actually.

0:10:22 > 0:10:25I would say that we've got an outstanding documentary commissioning team

0:10:25 > 0:10:31and people who want to make non-presented films are very, very, very welcome here.

0:10:31 > 0:10:35A very good example of a documentary presenter throwing himself

0:10:35 > 0:10:40into the centre of the story was BBC Two's Bill Bailey's Jungle Hero.

0:10:41 > 0:10:44This is Wallace's flying frog.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47It's a most amazing creature. Look at it.

0:11:08 > 0:11:10It just goes to prove the old adage -

0:11:10 > 0:11:13you can please some of the people some of the time...

0:11:15 > 0:11:18And the Great Bear Stakeout should appease those

0:11:18 > 0:11:21looking for their documentaries without presenters.

0:11:21 > 0:11:24Billy Connolly narrated, but did not star in,

0:11:24 > 0:11:26this story of a young mother grizzly bear,

0:11:26 > 0:11:31her cub and their fight to survive in the vast Alaskan wilderness.

0:11:56 > 0:12:01And while the BBC's team of bear followers seem to be getting things right,

0:12:01 > 0:12:06contrary to its title, The Wright Way was doing everything wrong.

0:12:06 > 0:12:11It pays us to minimise risk.

0:12:11 > 0:12:15Even if no such risk exists.

0:12:16 > 0:12:20The series is the latest offering from the comedy writer Ben Elton.

0:12:58 > 0:13:02Some of you have even called for the series to be taken off air.

0:13:02 > 0:13:05Perhaps it needs a little time to just bed in.

0:13:05 > 0:13:08You push the button, the water comes out. End of.

0:13:08 > 0:13:11No, Sue, not end of. Far from end of.

0:13:11 > 0:13:14But it is the end for us for this week.

0:13:14 > 0:13:16Next week, we are on at the same time.

0:13:16 > 0:13:21By the way, we are aware of your remarks about our changing position in the schedules.

0:13:21 > 0:13:24The production team is on constant alert for your comments.

0:13:24 > 0:13:27Please do get in touch by post - at our new address, remember...

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0:13:47 > 0:13:49..or, finally, write an e-mail.

0:13:51 > 0:13:54That's it for now. Bye-bye.

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