0:00:10 > 0:00:13Good afternoon and welcome to Points Of View,
0:00:13 > 0:00:16your chance to review the programmes
0:00:16 > 0:00:19you've been watching on the BBC over the past week.
0:00:19 > 0:00:22But, unusually, we are starting this week with a programme
0:00:22 > 0:00:24you didn't actually get to watch.
0:00:24 > 0:00:26'..A change to the schedule,
0:00:26 > 0:00:28'as we meet the father of modern archaeology.'
0:00:28 > 0:00:32Jerusalem: An Archaeological Mystery Story
0:00:32 > 0:00:34was pulled from BBC Four schedules
0:00:34 > 0:00:38before it was due to air on Thursday last week.
0:00:38 > 0:00:40And the scheduled repeat of the programme,
0:00:40 > 0:00:43which should've gone out on Monday of this week, met the same fate.
0:00:43 > 0:00:46'..A change to some billings here on BBC Four...'
0:00:46 > 0:00:49The Jerusalem programme was billed as having new evidence
0:00:49 > 0:00:53that would suggest the majority of Jewish people may not have been exiled
0:00:53 > 0:00:58after the fall of Jerusalem more than 2,000 years ago in 70AD.
0:00:58 > 0:01:03The documentary had been planned as part of an archaeology series on the channel.
0:01:03 > 0:01:07The decision to pull the programme has created a storm.
0:01:07 > 0:01:11Many of you who got in touch want to know why that decision was taken.
0:01:11 > 0:01:13I belong to Pax Christi UK,
0:01:13 > 0:01:16which is a Catholic peace organisation
0:01:16 > 0:01:20which is involved in looking at various issues of peace and justice.
0:01:20 > 0:01:24In this instance, looking at the issues raised
0:01:24 > 0:01:27by the situation in Palestine and Israel.
0:01:27 > 0:01:32We work alongside Israeli and Palestinian peace organisations.
0:01:32 > 0:01:37I sat down to watch Jerusalem - An Archaeological Mystery Story,
0:01:37 > 0:01:39because I was interested both in the archaeology,
0:01:39 > 0:01:42but also in the issues that it raised.
0:01:42 > 0:01:45So, having made sure that I was in time to sit down and watch it,
0:01:45 > 0:01:47turned it on, and found that, without explanation,
0:01:47 > 0:01:49a different programme was being shown.
0:01:49 > 0:01:53The reason that the BBC gave seemed incredibly implausible,
0:01:53 > 0:01:56because, I don't think, from a practical point of view,
0:01:56 > 0:01:58you would, at that last minute, decide,
0:01:58 > 0:02:00after all the planning that goes into programming,
0:02:00 > 0:02:05that this was something that didn't fit in with the long-term plans you'd had.
0:02:05 > 0:02:10It seemed to me more like a very last-minute knee-jerk reaction,
0:02:10 > 0:02:13possibly to complaints about the programme being aired.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16So, we went right to the top of the channel,
0:02:16 > 0:02:18to the man with ultimate control
0:02:18 > 0:02:21over what does and doesn't make it to air on BBC Four -
0:02:21 > 0:02:25that's channel controller, Richard Klein - to request an interview.
0:02:25 > 0:02:27And he declined. Instead, we were given this statement.
0:02:59 > 0:03:03It seems, for now, that this one has an uncertain ending.
0:03:03 > 0:03:06Another programme which left some wondering, "Where's it gone?"
0:03:06 > 0:03:10was The Prisoners. Fans tuned in to BBC One on Monday evening
0:03:10 > 0:03:12expecting to see the third
0:03:12 > 0:03:16and final episode of the observational documentary series
0:03:16 > 0:03:20which looks at life in two of our major prisons.
0:03:20 > 0:03:23In the slot instead was the BBC's monthly search
0:03:23 > 0:03:25for those not yet in jail, Crimewatch.
0:03:26 > 0:03:29So, what happened? Where have The Prisoners gone?
0:03:29 > 0:03:32We asked head of scheduling, Dan McGolpin.
0:03:32 > 0:03:35The Prisoners was planned to play in three consecutive weeks,
0:03:35 > 0:03:39but on the day that episode one was due to transmit,
0:03:39 > 0:03:40Baroness Thatcher died,
0:03:40 > 0:03:44and the BBC decided to show an obituary programme
0:03:44 > 0:03:46for the life of Margaret Thatcher.
0:03:46 > 0:03:49So, that was put on that evening instead of the first episode.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52The series knocked back to the following week.
0:03:52 > 0:03:54But it wasn't possible to do it for three weeks after that,
0:03:54 > 0:03:57because in the third week, we had already booked Crimewatch
0:03:57 > 0:03:58and Crimewatch had a studio booked,
0:03:58 > 0:04:01police force booked and all the presenters booked.
0:04:01 > 0:04:04So, actually, we had to have a gap in a series.
0:04:04 > 0:04:07We put it back on the next available opportunity, which May 13th.
0:04:07 > 0:04:09So, next Monday, the third episode of Prisoners will be on.
0:04:09 > 0:04:15The good news is this one has not been locked up indefinitely and will now air.
0:04:15 > 0:04:17OK, to cooking.
0:04:17 > 0:04:21After 23 episodes, all of which went out, you'll be glad to hear,
0:04:21 > 0:04:26MasterChef finally announced its, well, master chef for 2013.
0:04:26 > 0:04:29It's Natalie.
0:04:30 > 0:04:32Congratulations, Natalie.
0:04:32 > 0:04:36You must be delighted. But viewers were less than happy with the way
0:04:36 > 0:04:38some of the contributors were treated by the judges.
0:04:38 > 0:04:43What you've done today, Dale, is try to go too far left-field.
0:04:43 > 0:04:46You can't keep on reinventing the wheel, Dale.
0:04:49 > 0:04:52OK, don't worry, mate, don't worry. You're all right.
0:04:59 > 0:05:02And it wasn't just poor old Dale.
0:05:02 > 0:05:04Larkin got the hairdryer treatment as well.
0:05:04 > 0:05:08We have two different flavoured sludges.
0:05:08 > 0:05:11I'm sorry, Larkin. But I'm not going to taste that.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14Guest judge Marcus Wareing holding back on the taste test,
0:05:14 > 0:05:16but not on his criticism.
0:05:25 > 0:05:29Some food for thought there for programme-makers.
0:05:29 > 0:05:33We like our creative dishes, but not necessarily served up with anger.
0:05:33 > 0:05:38Now, one man who never saw the need to get angry over his specialist subject
0:05:38 > 0:05:42was the astronomer Sir Patrick Moore, who sadly died in December.
0:05:42 > 0:05:44But, of course, his Sky At Night programme lives on.
0:05:44 > 0:05:47And we went behind-the-scenes for you with the team
0:05:47 > 0:05:50to find out how they are keeping his spirit alive,
0:05:50 > 0:05:54putting some of your questions and comments to the series producer.
0:05:57 > 0:06:01The Sky At Night was first on air on the 24th April 1957,
0:06:01 > 0:06:03presented by Patrick Moore...
0:06:03 > 0:06:07- Good evening. - ..who continually presented it
0:06:07 > 0:06:09until, really, the day he died.
0:06:09 > 0:06:12Let's begin our tour between the planets.
0:06:12 > 0:06:15It was his baby, it was his legacy.
0:06:15 > 0:06:19Almost anything may happen at any moment... ..Aerodynamically shaped.
0:06:21 > 0:06:25We are never going to be able to replace Patrick. He is irreplaceable.
0:06:25 > 0:06:27Good night.
0:06:28 > 0:06:32I did ask him, on a couple of occasions, about what he wanted
0:06:32 > 0:06:36to happen to the programme, after he couldn't make it any more.
0:06:36 > 0:06:40He was absolutely adamant that he wanted the programme to go on.
0:06:46 > 0:06:50This is just incredible! This is like the EastEnders credits.
0:06:50 > 0:06:54We are in a strange building just outside Oxford, near Didcot.
0:06:54 > 0:06:55This is a place for UK companies
0:06:55 > 0:06:59and researchers who want to control satellites.
0:06:59 > 0:07:02We've come here because we wanted to use their big screen
0:07:02 > 0:07:05in order to film the 726th episode of The Sky At Night.
0:07:05 > 0:07:07Action.
0:07:07 > 0:07:12Weren't we lucky to get clear skies? Let's hope we get good weather...
0:07:12 > 0:07:15The current team are people who Patrick more or less picked
0:07:15 > 0:07:17and nurtured and brought on.
0:07:17 > 0:07:20And he was quite happy that they carry on the programme
0:07:20 > 0:07:22after he couldn't make it any more.
0:07:22 > 0:07:25The question we keep getting is, how do we step into Patrick's shoes
0:07:25 > 0:07:27now he's not here to guide us on The Sky At Night?
0:07:27 > 0:07:30At the first thing I want to say is that we don't.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32For starters, they're big shoes. They are size 13.
0:07:32 > 0:07:35But more than that, there won't be another Patrick Moore.
0:07:35 > 0:07:37No-one can replace that.
0:07:37 > 0:07:41It's amazing to think what might be going on beneath these clouds.
0:07:41 > 0:07:44'We've got to get our own trust from the audience.'
0:07:44 > 0:07:48Suddenly to step out and know that it was going to sink or fail
0:07:48 > 0:07:52on what WE said was daunting. But, hopefully, people are enjoying it.
0:07:52 > 0:07:54We are now going to Hampshire...
0:07:54 > 0:07:56That was the one. Well done, everybody.
0:07:56 > 0:07:59We have a very dedicated audience who are searching us out
0:07:59 > 0:08:03and find us and watch us, so what they've got to say about us
0:08:03 > 0:08:05is something that I'm very excited to hear.
0:08:05 > 0:08:09"With the demise of Sir Patrick, The Sky At Night last Sunday..."
0:08:18 > 0:08:19Good night.
0:08:21 > 0:08:24I have the Sun, which is at the centre of the solar system...
0:08:32 > 0:08:35This is something we've used before, it isn't something new.
0:08:35 > 0:08:38It was something that Patrick really enjoyed using.
0:08:38 > 0:08:41He often held up the Sun and the other planets.
0:08:41 > 0:08:43Here is a globe to represent Uranus.
0:08:43 > 0:08:47And here's a globe to represent the Earth on the same scale.
0:08:47 > 0:08:49It's a lemon and two hoops.
0:08:49 > 0:08:52The lemon, as you'll immediately realise, represents the Sun.
0:08:52 > 0:08:56We don't have a fantastic graphics budget on The Sky At Night,
0:08:56 > 0:08:57we do have to improvise.
0:08:57 > 0:09:00We do have to come up with interesting ways of doing it
0:09:00 > 0:09:05which sometimes explain things better than some fancy graphic.
0:09:05 > 0:09:08Water coming out of the watering can is the solar wind
0:09:08 > 0:09:11being thrown out from the Sun at a million miles an hour.
0:09:24 > 0:09:27- AS PATRICK MOORE: - Sir Patrick Moore, of course,
0:09:27 > 0:09:30capturing the fascination of astronomy beautifully like that.
0:09:30 > 0:09:33We do want to keep that eccentricity up,
0:09:33 > 0:09:37I think that Jon does offer valuable input into the presenting team.
0:09:37 > 0:09:40He's a guest on the programme, we love having him,
0:09:40 > 0:09:43he loves being on the show, and as long as the audience loves him,
0:09:43 > 0:09:46hopefully we'll be seeing more of Jon over the next few months.
0:09:46 > 0:09:49In 1957, The Sky At Night began.
0:09:49 > 0:09:52They asked me to present the show. Well, I'll do the best I can.
0:09:52 > 0:09:54We are moving forward, without Patrick,
0:09:54 > 0:09:59and that is incredibly difficult. We all miss him tremendously.
0:09:59 > 0:10:00Some of the things that we do
0:10:00 > 0:10:03are bound to need a little bit of bedding-in time,
0:10:03 > 0:10:05just keep feeding back to us what you feel works
0:10:05 > 0:10:10or what you feel doesn't work, and we'll keep working with it.
0:10:10 > 0:10:14We're the longest-running show in the world! Good night.
0:10:14 > 0:10:16APPLAUSE
0:10:16 > 0:10:20Another one-off was the comedian Dave Allen.
0:10:20 > 0:10:24This week, a BBC Two documentary looked back on his life and career
0:10:24 > 0:10:27and showed us that the man whom we knew for sitting in a chair
0:10:27 > 0:10:31and telling jokes, had lot of other strings to his bow.
0:10:31 > 0:10:33'Welcome, Dave Allen!' APPLAUSE
0:10:33 > 0:10:35An elephant going across a road.
0:10:35 > 0:10:36Every time he puts his foot on it,
0:10:36 > 0:10:38it's like - eeee! Cars. Eeeee! Cars.
0:10:38 > 0:10:41Fellow goes up and he says, "There's a zebra crossing up there."
0:10:41 > 0:10:43He says, "I hope he's having better luck than me."
0:10:57 > 0:10:59Sir Patrick Moore and Dave Allen,
0:10:59 > 0:11:02it's like a flashback to the 1970s here this week!
0:11:02 > 0:11:05But this next one goes back far further,
0:11:05 > 0:11:10to a time when mighty castles were scattered all over England.
0:11:10 > 0:11:11Or is that Scotland?
0:11:11 > 0:11:14I'm in the Northumberland National Park.
0:11:14 > 0:11:17The area has more castles than any other county in England.
0:11:17 > 0:11:20But Northumberland's claim to be home to more castles
0:11:20 > 0:11:23than any other county in England is not really the point here.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26It's that the castle Countryfile chose to represent the county
0:11:26 > 0:11:29was, in fact, Scottish.
0:11:29 > 0:11:33Tantallon Castle in East Lothian, definitely not English.
0:11:54 > 0:11:56Well, we pointed out the mistake.
0:11:56 > 0:11:58This is what the team had to say.
0:12:05 > 0:12:08That's almost it for this week but just before I sign off,
0:12:08 > 0:12:11we promised that we would address to your complaints over how
0:12:11 > 0:12:14Points Of View has been moving about the schedules
0:12:14 > 0:12:18since we returned for our new series at the start of April.
0:12:18 > 0:12:22In just five weeks, our time slot has jumped across three hours
0:12:22 > 0:12:24on the Sunday afternoon schedule.
0:12:24 > 0:12:27It has been a bit of a game of hide-and-seek for our loyal viewers.
0:12:36 > 0:12:39So, why is Points Of View not being given a fixed point
0:12:39 > 0:12:41at which it can be viewed?
0:12:41 > 0:12:43Here is the man who does the scheduling again.
0:12:43 > 0:12:46There have been a couple of changes to the BBC One schedule
0:12:46 > 0:12:49over the last year or so. EastEnders omnibus has moved
0:12:49 > 0:12:52and we have a different Grand Prix deal now,
0:12:52 > 0:12:55which means BBC One takes Grand Prix highlights quite often
0:12:55 > 0:12:58around Sunday teatime. So, we are moving the schedule around a bit.
0:12:58 > 0:13:02We've considered playing Points Of View next to The Politics Show
0:13:02 > 0:13:05at Sunday lunchtimes which we thought would be a good thing for viewers,
0:13:05 > 0:13:07that people would enjoy both those shows,
0:13:07 > 0:13:09and we tried different things with this run.
0:13:09 > 0:13:10We'll look at the end of the run,
0:13:10 > 0:13:12see what's worked, what's worked for viewers,
0:13:12 > 0:13:15and decide how best to schedule for the next run in the autumn.
0:13:15 > 0:13:17It sounds like, in the short-term,
0:13:17 > 0:13:20there won't be a fixed Points Of View slot.
0:13:20 > 0:13:22It is changed again for next week
0:13:22 > 0:13:25because we are on at the later time of 3.15,
0:13:25 > 0:13:27to make way for Formula 1 coverage.
0:13:27 > 0:13:31But one thing doesn't change - our desire to hear your views.
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