4:50:45 > 4:50:48The Scotland question. How did the BBC fare in its coverage?
4:50:48 > 4:50:51Gardener's World, are green fingered fans being treated like dirt?
4:50:51 > 4:50:54And The Great British Bakeoff's use of innuendo.
4:50:54 > 4:50:56This topic is a big one.
4:50:56 > 4:50:58Welcome to Points of View.
4:51:09 > 4:51:11Good afternoon, and you won't be surprised we are
4:51:11 > 4:51:15here in Glasgow in such a huge week for Scotland.
4:51:15 > 4:51:17A week of high passion as Scots went to the
4:51:17 > 4:51:20polls on the issue of independence.
4:51:20 > 4:51:24But high passion too over the BBC's coverage of the campaigns,
4:51:24 > 4:51:29and the question of whether it remained neutral itself became news.
4:51:29 > 4:51:34Why should a Scottish voter believe you, a politician,
4:51:34 > 4:51:38against men who are responsible for billions of pounds of profits?
4:51:38 > 4:51:41He didn't answer, but he did attack the reporting of those in what
4:51:41 > 4:51:44he called the metropolitan media.
4:51:44 > 4:51:47BBC's hard won reputation is being besmirched by some
4:51:47 > 4:51:49of your most eminent reporters.
4:51:49 > 4:51:52Is it because ego-fuelled journalists are trying to
4:51:52 > 4:51:54make the news, or be the news?
4:51:54 > 4:51:55I don't know.
4:51:55 > 4:51:59But be it Nick Robinson's wilfully misleading news report,
4:51:59 > 4:52:02exposed so cruelly on social media afterwards,
4:52:02 > 4:52:06or Eddie Mair's crass treatment of Alex Salmond in interview
4:52:06 > 4:52:10contrasting so vividly with that of Alastair Darling's, earlier.
4:52:10 > 4:52:13Or Jim Naughtie's routinely biased negativity.
4:52:13 > 4:52:16There appears to be a lack of editorial bite.
4:52:16 > 4:52:20The BBC used to be an exemplar to the fourth estate. Shame on you.
4:52:20 > 4:52:22What you've said, Gordon Brown has said, apparently now
4:52:22 > 4:52:25the leader of this campaign, not Alastair darling...
4:52:25 > 4:52:27Not at all, Alastair's the leader.
4:52:27 > 4:52:29Absolutely, you're the person who's been leading
4:52:29 > 4:52:31for the last two weeks on this,
4:52:31 > 4:52:36and it looks like a last minute panic to bribe Scotland to stick with it.
4:52:36 > 4:52:39The decreasing impartiality of the BBC was
4:52:39 > 4:52:41highlighted in the Panorama programme on the 16th
4:52:42 > 4:52:45when David Dimbleby interviewed Gordon Brown and Alex Salmond.
4:52:45 > 4:52:48The attitude to Brown was argumentative, aggressive
4:52:48 > 4:52:49and almost bullying.
4:52:49 > 4:52:53In complete contrast to the cosy fireside chat with Salmond.
4:52:53 > 4:52:59No searching questions on the NHS, the EU, NATO, UN or privatisation.
4:52:59 > 4:53:02BBC, impartiality, please.
4:53:02 > 4:53:05So, with claims of bias from both sides,
4:53:05 > 4:53:08did the BBC always get the balance right?
4:53:08 > 4:53:11We asked the BBC's news department if they were happy with how
4:53:11 > 4:53:14their presenters and reporters had performed,
4:53:14 > 4:53:15and this is what they had to say.
4:53:24 > 4:53:29- The stage is set for four days of competition.- Drama.- Inspiration.
4:53:30 > 4:53:32And glory.
4:53:32 > 4:53:34Patriotism of a different kind, next.
4:53:34 > 4:53:35And loads of you telling us
4:53:35 > 4:53:38just how inspired you've been by the bravery and resilience of
4:53:38 > 4:53:41the former service men and women who took part
4:53:41 > 4:53:43in Prince Harry's Invictus games.
4:54:03 > 4:54:05- Is it going to make me cry? - Well, maybe.
4:54:05 > 4:54:07That many watching the coverage of the opening
4:54:07 > 4:54:10ceremony on The One Show were left calling for
4:54:10 > 4:54:14a little less conversation, and a little more action, please.
4:54:14 > 4:54:17To see the faces of those individuals that have given
4:54:17 > 4:54:20so much for their country, and now we get the chance to
4:54:20 > 4:54:24show our appreciation for everything that they have given, really.
4:54:24 > 4:54:26It really is incredibly emotional.
4:54:36 > 4:54:38Doesn't sound good, does it?
4:54:38 > 4:54:42And it wasn't just The One Show team hogging the sporting limelight.
4:54:42 > 4:54:45The special highlights programmes were, for some, well,
4:54:45 > 4:54:47lacking in highlights.
4:54:47 > 4:54:50Back stories of the athletes sometimes took precedence,
4:54:50 > 4:54:54and in one programme it took 17 minutes before we got to see
4:54:54 > 4:54:56any of the day's sporting action.
4:54:58 > 4:55:01Away cleanly, Chalmers just got left a little bit at the beginning,
4:55:01 > 4:55:03and over on the inside, Akakpo of France is flying away
4:55:03 > 4:55:07and it's got to be the Frenchman who's storming away from the field.
4:55:07 > 4:55:11Campbell takes second for the USA, but it's gold for France.
4:55:11 > 4:55:13The same old celebrities with the same old chat
4:55:13 > 4:55:16that now seems obligatory.
4:55:16 > 4:55:19Just time filling and airing past celebs.
4:55:19 > 4:55:22No games. I switched off.
4:55:22 > 4:55:25Save their fees. Give the money to the real heroes.
4:55:25 > 4:55:27And clubs for the future of sport.
4:55:27 > 4:55:29Let's move on,
4:55:29 > 4:55:32and another group of viewers feeling let down are the gardeners.
4:55:32 > 4:55:36Fans of Gardener's World say that they are at the bottom
4:55:36 > 4:55:39of the heap on the BBC's priority list.
4:55:39 > 4:55:41# I beg your pardon
4:55:42 > 4:55:46# I never promised you a rose garden
4:55:46 > 4:55:52I love Gardener's World. Fridays, at half past eight, the world stops.
4:55:52 > 4:55:55I've enjoyed Gardener's World for a long time.
4:55:56 > 4:55:58I've watched it from Geoff Hamilton,
4:55:58 > 4:56:02through Alan Titchmarsh to Monty Don and it's fresh.
4:56:02 > 4:56:05I think Gardener's World has been treated poorly.
4:56:05 > 4:56:12It gets cancelled for snooker, the athletics, or the Ryder Cup is on.
4:56:14 > 4:56:18And I think that's not the way to treat a programme that's been
4:56:18 > 4:56:21running for 46 years.
4:56:21 > 4:56:25Now, I'm afraid we're not here next week, because it's snooker.
4:56:25 > 4:56:28We shan't be back next week because the Proms are on.
4:56:28 > 4:56:30We're a nation of gardeners.
4:56:30 > 4:56:35BBC give it so little a rating that they feel that they can move it
4:56:35 > 4:56:39or even cancel it. It seems to be very low on the priority list.
4:56:39 > 4:56:42Which isn't fair, and it's not reasonable.
4:56:42 > 4:56:45I'll be back here next week, half an hour later because of the tennis.
4:56:45 > 4:56:47Next week, we're still at nine o'clock
4:56:47 > 4:56:49because we follow the athletics.
4:56:49 > 4:56:53And we are on at the later time of nine o'clock.
4:56:53 > 4:56:58For the rest of this series, we shall be coming on an hour later,
4:56:58 > 4:57:00at 9:30.
4:57:00 > 4:57:03I know that an awful lot of Gardener's World viewers
4:57:03 > 4:57:08didn't want the 9:30 slot, and we weren't given the opportunity
4:57:08 > 4:57:10to say how we felt about it.
4:57:10 > 4:57:12That was so easy to do.
4:57:12 > 4:57:15I'll be creating dishes that anyone can cook...
4:57:15 > 4:57:16In the last five or ten years,
4:57:16 > 4:57:21BBC channels have become awash with cookery programmes.
4:57:23 > 4:57:26We gardeners get 30 minutes.
4:57:26 > 4:57:31It certainly sends a message to gardeners and to non-gardeners.
4:57:31 > 4:57:33That gardening is second class.
4:57:33 > 4:57:37It looks to me like the BBC just doesn't care. Simple as that.
4:57:37 > 4:57:40So is gardening getting a rough deal
4:57:40 > 4:57:43in comparison to other hobby shows like cookery?
4:57:43 > 4:57:47Certainly if you look at the past week from last Sunday to today,
4:57:47 > 4:57:51there have been a total of 21 hours of cookery shows.
4:57:51 > 4:57:53And just two and a half hours,
4:57:53 > 4:57:57including a Gardener's World repeat given over to green-fingered fans.
4:57:57 > 4:58:02So why, given how little time the BBC is spending on gardening is it
4:58:02 > 4:58:07so hard for this programme to hold on to a regular slot on BBC Two?
4:58:20 > 4:58:24But it seems even that plan hasn't worked because next week
4:58:24 > 4:58:27Gardener's World will again be uprooted
4:58:27 > 4:58:29to the earlier time of eight o'clock.
4:58:33 > 4:58:37Lily's mother had left her on the steps of Castlepollard.
4:58:37 > 4:58:40A home run by the catholic church,
4:58:40 > 4:58:44where unmarried mothers were hidden away in shame to have their children.
4:58:44 > 4:58:46This World Ireland's Lost Babies,
4:58:46 > 4:58:49with journalist Martin Sixsmith explored the story
4:58:49 > 4:58:51of the thousands of illegitimate children
4:58:51 > 4:58:56taken from their mothers in Ireland and sent abroad a generation ago.
4:58:56 > 4:58:59The follow-up to the Oscar-nominated film Philomena proving
4:58:59 > 4:59:02a gripping and emotional watch for viewers.
4:59:10 > 4:59:13Now, delighting audiences, the drama, Our Zoo,
4:59:13 > 4:59:16which tells the real-life story of how, in the 1930s,
4:59:16 > 4:59:20the Mottershead family founded Chester Zoo.
4:59:20 > 4:59:21It's perfect for animals.
4:59:21 > 4:59:23What sort of animals?
4:59:23 > 4:59:26Horses, peacocks, elephants.
4:59:26 > 4:59:29Elephants? You're off your rocker.
4:59:29 > 4:59:30George, what's going on?
4:59:32 > 4:59:33I want to build a zoo.
4:59:49 > 4:59:51Good boy.
4:59:51 > 4:59:52Your granny's going to kill me.
4:59:53 > 4:59:55Mum too.
4:59:55 > 4:59:57Lots of praise here for the two-legged,
4:59:57 > 4:59:59and four-legged stars of this show.
4:59:59 > 5:00:01But some of you are asking
5:00:01 > 5:00:04if the series which airs at nine o'clock on Wednesday nights
5:00:04 > 5:00:07wouldn't be better suited to a more family friendly time.
5:00:07 > 5:00:09I'm really enjoying Our Zoo.
5:00:09 > 5:00:14I think it's a lovely programme, but it's a shame it's being buried in the
5:00:14 > 5:00:16Wednesday evening time slot instead of the real feel-good
5:00:16 > 5:00:18factor of Sunday night TV.
5:00:20 > 5:00:22Just it's too late.
5:00:24 > 5:00:27I won't be able to watch it.
5:00:27 > 5:00:29Why wont they put it on earlier?
5:00:29 > 5:00:30It's so annoying.
5:00:32 > 5:00:37Why wont they put it on earlier?
5:00:37 > 5:00:40Nathan Higgins, and a plea for his favourite show
5:00:40 > 5:00:42to be aired before bedtime.
5:00:42 > 5:00:45Now, next on the menu, The Great British Bakeoff.
5:00:45 > 5:00:49Who would've thought amateur baking could attract millions of viewers?
5:00:49 > 5:00:52And it's returned, with lots of controversy and drama.
5:00:52 > 5:00:56But for some it is the issue of too much sauce or
5:00:56 > 5:00:59sauciness that is leaving a bad taste.
5:01:01 > 5:01:03Oh. Saucy.
5:01:04 > 5:01:09Right, Pussy Galore, Paul Hollywood, if you'd like to leave the tent.
5:01:09 > 5:01:10See you later, Pussy.
5:01:10 > 5:01:11I've got a nice pair, Louis.
5:01:11 > 5:01:13We've already had the orange segments
5:01:13 > 5:01:15and a thorough sponge down from Mary Berry.
5:01:15 > 5:01:18- Perfect nuts.- Wow. To be commended on your nuts by Mary Berry.
5:01:20 > 5:01:24You have got two hours to pop Mary's cherry
5:01:24 > 5:01:26in the oven and bring it out again.
5:01:27 > 5:01:29Are you a pie or a tart?
5:01:29 > 5:01:32My God, she's a sex maniac!
5:01:32 > 5:01:34Oh, so saucy.
5:01:34 > 5:01:35Cock-a-leekie.
5:02:00 > 5:02:02And complaints too about the companion programme
5:02:02 > 5:02:05An Extra Slice, presented by Jo Brand.
5:02:05 > 5:02:08Julian, do you like to hold yours up to the window?
5:02:09 > 5:02:13It seemed full of innuendos.
5:02:13 > 5:02:17It was controversial, it was lewd, it was mucky.
5:02:17 > 5:02:20Even the panel seemed quite uncomfortable.
5:02:20 > 5:02:22Why don't we just call it The Jo Brand Show
5:02:22 > 5:02:24and then just forget baking?
5:02:24 > 5:02:29Great British Bakeoff, just too hot in the kitchen for some.
5:02:29 > 5:02:31They get away with a lot more, though,
5:02:31 > 5:02:36on BBC Three, with shows like Bad Education which returned on Tuesday.
5:02:36 > 5:02:40Mein Kampf was the name of John Barrowman's autobiography.
5:02:40 > 5:02:44- You thought that Hitler's first name was Heil?- Heil Hitler.
5:02:44 > 5:02:48- That Hezbollah and Hamas were chips and dips?- Well, they sound yummy.
5:02:48 > 5:02:51And the new series with all its inappropriateness -
5:02:51 > 5:02:53is that a word, teacher?
5:02:53 > 5:02:55- winning fans all over again.
5:02:55 > 5:02:57This week's Bad Education was amazing.
5:02:57 > 5:02:59It's got to be one of my favourite comedies.
5:02:59 > 5:03:03Stephen's interview was just hilarious.
5:03:03 > 5:03:06Alfie's teaching methods never fail to amuse me.
5:03:06 > 5:03:07And Fraser's haircut
5:03:07 > 5:03:11and his desk-way were probably the highlight of the whole programme.
5:03:11 > 5:03:13It's such a funny episode.
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