Episode 13

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2:00:00 > 2:00:00POINTS OF VIEW FKA R176L/01 BRD000000

9:03:36 > 9:03:39Mastermind - too many masters and not enough mistresses?

9:03:39 > 9:03:42Deja vu on daytime TV - the repeat that keeps repeating...

9:03:42 > 9:03:44and Smutgate continues -

9:03:44 > 9:03:49fans tell complainers to keep their hands off Bake Off.

9:03:49 > 9:03:51Welcome to Points Of View.

9:04:02 > 9:04:04Good afternoon. Now, we begin this week

9:04:04 > 9:04:06with claims of a bad bout of sexism

9:04:06 > 9:04:08on one of the BBC's most popular

9:04:08 > 9:04:12and long-running quiz shows - Mastermind.

9:04:12 > 9:04:15It seems it has all gone a bit bloke-ish in the search

9:04:15 > 9:04:17for Britain's best brain.

9:04:17 > 9:04:21MASTERMIND THEME TUNE

9:04:21 > 9:04:24Let's get on with it and ask our first contender to join us, please.

9:04:28 > 9:04:32Hello, my name is Maureen Caulfield and I live in Chichester

9:04:32 > 9:04:37with my husband and he and I enjoy watching BBC quiz programmes.

9:04:37 > 9:04:40Recently, when I was watching Mastermind,

9:04:40 > 9:04:43specifically during the general knowledge rounds,

9:04:43 > 9:04:45I noticed how many more questions

9:04:45 > 9:04:47referenced men than women.

9:04:47 > 9:04:49According to Homer's Iliad,

9:04:49 > 9:04:52which King of Greek mythology had 50 sons, including Hector and Paris?

9:04:52 > 9:04:54Priam.

9:04:54 > 9:04:58And so I started to monitor how frequently questions referenced

9:04:58 > 9:05:00men as opposed to women

9:05:00 > 9:05:02and was surprised to find this ratio

9:05:02 > 9:05:05of 5:1 in favour of men.

9:05:05 > 9:05:08- Who composed the music for the opera Tristan and Isolde...- Wagner.

9:05:08 > 9:05:12- Ninth Symphony, first performed in 1824...- Beethoven.

9:05:12 > 9:05:14- Meaning the leader.- Franco.

9:05:14 > 9:05:18This is obviously not an accurate reflection of the contribution

9:05:18 > 9:05:19women make to society

9:05:19 > 9:05:23and nor is it an accurate reflection of the licence-fee-paying public.

9:05:23 > 9:05:25..a woman of no importance.

9:05:25 > 9:05:29Discriminations of this kind tend to fly under the radar.

9:05:29 > 9:05:33- They're subtle and they're probably not intentional.- Ronnie Corbett.

9:05:33 > 9:05:35- Marco Polo.- Lewis Carroll. - Robbie Williams!

9:05:35 > 9:05:37And so I would like to ask the programme-makers,

9:05:37 > 9:05:42are they aware that a 5:1 ratio in favour of men exists?

9:05:42 > 9:05:43And now that I've pointed it out,

9:05:43 > 9:05:46what is it they intend to do about it?

9:05:46 > 9:05:48So what is happening at Mastermind?

9:05:48 > 9:05:51It is definitely not Mistressmind.

9:05:51 > 9:05:53Here is the producer, Mark Helsby.

9:05:53 > 9:05:55I don't sit and look through

9:05:55 > 9:05:57the programmes and look for that.

9:05:57 > 9:05:59When I looked through the questions,

9:05:59 > 9:06:02I'm looking to make sure, as best I can, that for the people

9:06:02 > 9:06:04who are taking part, it's a fair competition

9:06:04 > 9:06:08and that they're getting a fair spread of questions, a fair spread

9:06:08 > 9:06:11of subjects and that the difficulty level is even amongst them.

9:06:11 > 9:06:14The team put a lot of work in to make sure everyone gets the same

9:06:14 > 9:06:16number of questions within their two-minute round...

9:06:16 > 9:06:18- BLEEPER - He started - let him finish.

9:06:18 > 9:06:21In the future, I'll certainly bear it in mind

9:06:21 > 9:06:22when I'm looking at the sex.

9:06:22 > 9:06:26It's another thing I will look at, alongside the other things

9:06:26 > 9:06:28I look at when I'm signing off the questions.

9:06:29 > 9:06:33- You've done all this before.- That is a mucky end I've made of that.

9:06:33 > 9:06:35This looks amazing.

9:06:35 > 9:06:36I've left the nuts quite chunky,

9:06:36 > 9:06:38I don't know if that's a good thing.

9:06:38 > 9:06:40- We love chunky nuts.- Do you?!

9:06:40 > 9:06:44You KNOW we love chunky nuts on Bake Off!

9:06:44 > 9:06:47Mel and Sue on the Great British Bake Off

9:06:47 > 9:06:49and what we are now calling "Smutgate".

9:06:49 > 9:06:52Viewers complained last week, do you remember, that the pair were

9:06:52 > 9:06:55ruining the series with their innuendo?

9:06:55 > 9:06:59BUT there has been a backlash in the kitchen, with many taking to

9:06:59 > 9:07:01Twitter to tell those complaining to...

9:07:01 > 9:07:03Well, get a life.

9:07:12 > 9:07:15I really can't understand the negative reactions to the

9:07:15 > 9:07:18innuendos on BBC One's Great British Bake Off.

9:07:18 > 9:07:22Surely, innuendo is a key part of British culture, from saucy

9:07:22 > 9:07:25seaside postcards to the Carry On films to the Two Ronnies to

9:07:25 > 9:07:27many of today's modern stand-ups.

9:07:27 > 9:07:30Of course, innuendo must always have a double meaning,

9:07:30 > 9:07:33so perhaps this is more about the viewer than the actual show?

9:07:33 > 9:07:36In the words of the immortal Frankie Howard, titter ye not!

9:07:36 > 9:07:39I was very saddened to find that the smut was

9:07:39 > 9:07:41an issue on the British Bake Off.

9:07:41 > 9:07:44Personally, I find European Cake Week to be the funniest thing

9:07:44 > 9:07:48I've seen on telly. I loved the Dutch baker, it was, "Sho funny"!

9:07:48 > 9:07:50"Hey, you know, let's make some cakes!"

9:07:50 > 9:07:53Comedy genius. Smut? Never.

9:07:53 > 9:07:56Sue Perkins has even got involved.

9:08:04 > 9:08:07Don't start the row over fake accents again, Sue -

9:08:07 > 9:08:09we had too many of them to deal with

9:08:09 > 9:08:12from the drama department last series.

9:08:12 > 9:08:14Anyway, innuendos aside,

9:08:14 > 9:08:18the Great British Bake Off semifinal show, this Wednesday.

9:08:18 > 9:08:20Now, moving on, but maybe not, really.

9:08:20 > 9:08:21On Saturday, the BBC News Channel

9:08:21 > 9:08:25obviously wanted to avoid any offence with their warning about

9:08:25 > 9:08:29a documentary on one of the most endangered tribes on the planet.

9:08:29 > 9:08:33This programme does contain some scenes of male nudity.

9:08:49 > 9:08:53You are right, Susiesar - forewarned is forearmed, it would seem.

9:08:56 > 9:08:58I'm getting a bit squeamish. Let's move on.

9:09:05 > 9:09:06A couple of weeks ago,

9:09:06 > 9:09:09we brought you some criticism of the series, Tumble.

9:09:09 > 9:09:12We told you then, no decision had been made as to whether to

9:09:12 > 9:09:17recommission the show for next year, but one young viewer is so concerned

9:09:17 > 9:09:21his favourite show won't come back, that he has put pen to paper.

9:09:21 > 9:09:24My name is Oliver and I'm six years old.

9:09:24 > 9:09:29I live in Essex with my mum and dad and my sister.

9:09:29 > 9:09:33The other day, I wrote a letter to Points Of View.

9:09:36 > 9:09:40"Dear Sir or Madame, I have been enjoying Tumble on Saturdays..."

9:09:40 > 9:09:44It's the Tumble grand final!

9:09:45 > 9:09:50"My mummy tells me it will not be on again. Ever!

9:09:50 > 9:09:52"Can you change your minds?"

9:09:52 > 9:09:56# I'm holding on for a hero till the end of the night... #

9:09:56 > 9:09:59"I really like it

9:09:59 > 9:10:02"because I like gymnastics and dance."

9:10:02 > 9:10:03# Because I'm happy

9:10:03 > 9:10:05# Clap along if you feel

9:10:05 > 9:10:08# Like a room without a roof... #

9:10:08 > 9:10:11"Thank you, from Oliver, aged six."

9:10:11 > 9:10:15Please, please, BBC - bring Tumble back!

9:10:18 > 9:10:20Well, Oliver, there still hasn't been a decision on

9:10:20 > 9:10:23whether your very obviously favourite show will make

9:10:23 > 9:10:26a return - we'll keep you posted on this one.

9:10:27 > 9:10:30Tuesday saw the start of a new crime drama starring David Morrissey

9:10:30 > 9:10:32and written by BAFTA

9:10:32 > 9:10:36and International Emmy award-winner Danny Brocklehurst.

9:10:36 > 9:10:39I thought you were supposed to be going straight?

9:10:39 > 9:10:41How am I supposed to say no to these guys, eh?

9:10:41 > 9:10:44- I thought you said you were sick of being ordinary.- I am.

9:10:44 > 9:10:46That doesn't mean I want to be extraordinary in prison, do I?

9:10:54 > 9:10:56Praise too for another drama,

9:10:56 > 9:10:59this time on Sunday nights on BBC One.

9:10:59 > 9:11:01Our Girl, starring Lacey Turner,

9:11:01 > 9:11:06tells the story of a young medic in her first posting to Afghanistan.

9:11:06 > 9:11:09Did you pass geography at school, Dawes?

9:11:09 > 9:11:10- No, sir.- No.

9:11:11 > 9:11:14- Did you, Smurf? - Oh, yes, sir.- Good.

9:11:16 > 9:11:19Then you can show our Doris where the female quarters are.

9:11:21 > 9:11:23This...

9:11:23 > 9:11:24is stags only.

9:11:26 > 9:11:30Sunday saw the return of the hit drama Our Girl to the BBC.

9:11:30 > 9:11:33I found this drama intense and gripping,

9:11:33 > 9:11:36whilst at the same time it really cut deep into a subject that will

9:11:36 > 9:11:40resonate with millions of people across the UK right now.

9:11:40 > 9:11:44I for one am really, really excited that this drama has come back

9:11:44 > 9:11:47and I think that Lacey Turner is an absolutely amazing actress

9:11:47 > 9:11:49and should win a BAFTA for her role.

9:11:49 > 9:11:52Well done, the BBC - bring on episode two.

9:11:52 > 9:11:54I think our girl on BBC One was

9:11:54 > 9:11:56absolutely brilliant this week.

9:11:56 > 9:11:58I think the storyline was amazing -

9:11:58 > 9:12:01at times it had you absolutely hysterical laughing

9:12:01 > 9:12:04and the next minute, you're on the edge of your seats.

9:12:04 > 9:12:07I think Lacey Turner was brilliant in it, like she is in everything.

9:12:07 > 9:12:09I can't wait for the rest of the series.

9:12:09 > 9:12:12But - and there is always a "but" -

9:12:12 > 9:12:16why schedule it up against ITV's Downton?

9:12:22 > 9:12:24Next, repeats on daytime.

9:12:24 > 9:12:28Now, complaints on this general theme keep on coming.

9:12:28 > 9:12:33But when an already repeated episode of Bargain Hunt from 2012...

9:12:33 > 9:12:36We're heading off somewhere incredibly interesting...

9:12:36 > 9:12:39..was repeated AGAIN on 9th September...

9:12:39 > 9:12:42..Incredibly interesting...

9:12:42 > 9:12:44..and AGAIN on Wednesday,

9:12:44 > 9:12:47- just two weeks later... - ..Interesting.

9:12:47 > 9:12:50Well, antique fans who like old stuff normally were left

9:12:50 > 9:12:53saying even for them, this was too much.

9:12:53 > 9:12:55I'm a regular Bargain Hunt viewer

9:12:55 > 9:12:57and I know that from time to time,

9:12:57 > 9:12:59there are repeats of this programme.

9:12:59 > 9:13:02But imagine my disappointment today -

9:13:02 > 9:13:0524 September - sitting down to lunch

9:13:05 > 9:13:09and finding the programme had been aired just last week.

9:13:09 > 9:13:10Come on, BBC -

9:13:10 > 9:13:13we don't forget things THAT easily.

9:13:13 > 9:13:17You do need to get someone to keep track of your scheduling.

9:13:17 > 9:13:20The schedulers say human error was to blame,

9:13:20 > 9:13:21as if it could be anything else.

9:13:21 > 9:13:23They say they're going to look into it

9:13:23 > 9:13:26and try to ensure it never happens again.

9:13:27 > 9:13:31One show fans wouldn't mind seeing repeated though, would be BBC Two's

9:13:31 > 9:13:33Marvellous, the fact-based drama

9:13:33 > 9:13:39about the life of against the odds Neil Baldwin winning many fans.

9:13:39 > 9:13:41Let's just play the game right

9:13:41 > 9:13:45and the main thing is this -

9:13:45 > 9:13:49this is what you've got to get into your noggins.

9:13:49 > 9:13:51The main thing is,

9:13:51 > 9:13:55go out there and score more goals

9:13:55 > 9:13:57than the other team!

9:13:58 > 9:14:01Thanks, Neilo. Was that...

9:14:01 > 9:14:03Was that supposed to be me, aye?

9:14:03 > 9:14:08- Brian Clough, boss.- Oh, right. Classy.- Come on!

9:14:08 > 9:14:10This programme has BAFTA written all over it

9:14:10 > 9:14:13and was a wonderful piece of television.

9:14:13 > 9:14:17The quality acting interspersed with Neil Baldwin himself was

9:14:17 > 9:14:21fantastic and the story is truly inspirational.

9:14:21 > 9:14:24No question, this was the BBC at its absolute best -

9:14:24 > 9:14:27funny, moving and most of all, real.

9:14:27 > 9:14:32Congratulations to the BBC and to Neil - you should both be proud.

9:14:48 > 9:14:51Marvellous by name and by nature, it would seem.

9:14:51 > 9:14:55And it is TV moments like these we want you to tell us about.

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9:15:35 > 9:15:37For this week's My Choice,

9:15:37 > 9:15:39John Stokes explains his -

9:15:39 > 9:15:41BBC Four's Storyville, entitled

9:15:41 > 9:15:44The Himalayan Boy and the TV Set.

9:15:56 > 9:15:59And in a style adopted by my predecessor,

9:15:59 > 9:16:02the great Sir Terry Wogan, formerly of this parish,

9:16:02 > 9:16:05we leave you with just some of what for John

9:16:05 > 9:16:08and so many others made this documentary so special.

9:16:08 > 9:16:10Until next week, goodbye.