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9:03:26 > 9:03:30Threats to boycott the TV licence if there is not more ethnic diversity on TV.

9:03:30 > 9:03:32And who exactly is to blame for us

9:03:32 > 9:03:36not being able to hear what is being said in some dramas -

9:03:36 > 9:03:39the actors or sound engineers?

9:03:39 > 9:03:41Both sides put their case.

9:03:41 > 9:03:43Welcome to Points Of View.

9:03:54 > 9:03:55Good afternoon.

9:03:55 > 9:03:58For some time now, campaigners have been saying that British TV

9:03:58 > 9:04:00doesn't properly reflect

9:04:00 > 9:04:02our racially diverse society.

9:04:02 > 9:04:05But this week, the campaign to get better race representation

9:04:05 > 9:04:09on screen stepped up a gear, with a call for people to stop paying

9:04:09 > 9:04:15their TV licence fee if the BBC doesn't tackle the issue quickly.

9:04:15 > 9:04:19Listen, if you want to get involved with the campaign to improve

9:04:19 > 9:04:21diversity in broadcast media, hooray!

9:04:21 > 9:04:25Comedian and actor Lenny Henry has loaned his voice to

9:04:25 > 9:04:28the campaign, which is calling on the culture minister Ed Vaizey

9:04:28 > 9:04:33to force TV channels to make changes to their staff make-up.

9:04:33 > 9:04:37Putting the case for more diversity on screen is Simone Pennant.

9:04:37 > 9:04:39My name's Simone and I'm from London.

9:04:39 > 9:04:42And I represent 60,000 programme makers

9:04:42 > 9:04:45from black and Asian backgrounds working in TV.

9:04:45 > 9:04:49I myself have worked in TV for over 15 years

9:04:49 > 9:04:53and the issue of diversity has been going on for all that time.

9:04:53 > 9:04:56One of the biggest frustrations that a lot of my members talk about

9:04:56 > 9:05:00is the way that their communities are often portrayed on screen.

9:05:00 > 9:05:04Most feel at best that these portrayals are one-dimensional and even bland.

9:05:04 > 9:05:07And they feel that part of the reason is the lack of opportunities

9:05:07 > 9:05:11to actually make decisions and get behind making these programmes.

9:05:11 > 9:05:14What Lenny Henry is proposing is a real tangible way

9:05:14 > 9:05:17to make a change and make sure that what we're watching on TV

9:05:17 > 9:05:19is reflective and better for all of us.

9:05:19 > 9:05:23He is asking not only for ring-fenced money for programming,

9:05:23 > 9:05:25but also more opportunities

9:05:25 > 9:05:28and more jobs for people from diverse backgrounds working in the industry.

9:05:28 > 9:05:32At the end of the summer, the BBC and government officials will be

9:05:32 > 9:05:35meeting together to discuss this very issue and we feel

9:05:35 > 9:05:38if no tangible solution is laid out on the table,

9:05:38 > 9:05:42we'll have no alternative but to ask members to boycott the licence fee.

9:05:42 > 9:05:45We appreciate that this might be against the law

9:05:45 > 9:05:48but after years and years of discussing the same issue,

9:05:48 > 9:05:50we feel that there is no choice.

9:05:50 > 9:05:54So we asked the BBC for their view on this and they gave us a statement.

9:06:22 > 9:06:26We are really keen to hear what you think of this. Please do get in touch.

9:06:28 > 9:06:33The beautiful West Wales countryside providing a fabulous backdrop

9:06:33 > 9:06:35for BBC Four's new series Hinterland.

9:06:36 > 9:06:41The bilingual drama proving a highly successful cultural exchange.

9:06:41 > 9:06:43Hywel Maybury?

9:06:49 > 9:06:51TRANSLATION FROM WELSH:

9:06:55 > 9:06:58BBC Four's done it again. Hinterland.

9:06:58 > 9:06:59Atmospheric drama,

9:06:59 > 9:07:02great storyline, wonderful scenery.

9:07:02 > 9:07:04BBC at its best.

9:07:04 > 9:07:08Why not on BBC One? Is it because of the subtitles?

9:07:08 > 9:07:12The cinematography used in Hinterland's first episode was beautiful.

9:07:12 > 9:07:13The shooting of each scene

9:07:13 > 9:07:15incorporated a great use of lighting, framing

9:07:15 > 9:07:17and the colour schemes were superb.

9:07:17 > 9:07:21This, along with an amazing combination of acting and camerawork,

9:07:21 > 9:07:24made for a fantastic, enjoyable TV show

9:07:24 > 9:07:27that I would thoroughly recommend to others.

9:07:27 > 9:07:29Two versions of the same drama were recorded -

9:07:29 > 9:07:33one completely in Welsh, which aired only in Wales,

9:07:33 > 9:07:36and this bilingual version - which meant more chances to watch -

9:07:36 > 9:07:39and some can't get enough of it.

9:07:47 > 9:07:49Staying with drama,

9:07:49 > 9:07:54and the fallout from the sound fiasco on Jamaica Inn rumbles on.

9:07:54 > 9:07:58Lots of you still getting in touch to air your frustrations over not

9:07:58 > 9:08:03being able to understand parts of the dialogue in this period drama.

9:08:03 > 9:08:07And many people pointing out that Jamaica Inn is not alone.

9:08:07 > 9:08:09Over the past few months,

9:08:09 > 9:08:11the sound quality

9:08:11 > 9:08:15on the BBC has not been as good as it used to be.

9:08:15 > 9:08:17I feel that...

9:08:17 > 9:08:23the actors don't really pronounce their words properly

9:08:23 > 9:08:25and enunciate properly.

9:08:25 > 9:08:30And that makes you think that maybe you are going slightly deaf,

9:08:30 > 9:08:34but it just seems to be too...

9:08:34 > 9:08:37frequent for it just to be me.

9:08:37 > 9:08:40This has been an issue for a number of years

9:08:40 > 9:08:43and I need someone

9:08:43 > 9:08:46to listen and do something about it.

9:08:46 > 9:08:48I don't want to drone on about the licence fee

9:08:48 > 9:08:50but there is an issue here.

9:08:50 > 9:08:56I want the BBC to listen when people say that they can't hear

9:08:56 > 9:09:01these good programmes, which are costing a great deal of money.

9:09:01 > 9:09:05Last week, we were told the BBC is investigating what went wrong.

9:09:05 > 9:09:09Was it the fault of the actors or the sound recordists?

9:09:09 > 9:09:11Well, we asked two industry professionals

9:09:11 > 9:09:15from both sides of the debate what they thought.

9:09:19 > 9:09:22On this occasion, I felt that the sound technicians were being

9:09:22 > 9:09:27unfairly blamed for what was, to me, a creative decision.

9:09:27 > 9:09:29Me and this girl, we understand each other.

9:09:33 > 9:09:35You get her something to eat.

9:09:37 > 9:09:41Initially, all the excitement over Jamaica Inn

9:09:41 > 9:09:48was focused by the BBC and others as a technical sound issue.

9:09:48 > 9:09:51That did concern me because, in my opinion -

9:09:51 > 9:09:54my professional opinion - it wasn't a technical sound issue.

9:09:54 > 9:09:58I eventually spoke to colleagues and discussed it with them

9:09:58 > 9:10:00and we came to the conclusion that what

9:10:00 > 9:10:03we were hearing is what was faithfully recorded.

9:10:03 > 9:10:06And so it wasn't a technical sound issue -

9:10:06 > 9:10:09it really was a creative issue.

9:10:09 > 9:10:10A creative decision.

9:10:10 > 9:10:15So the actors are at fault? Does RADA agree?

9:10:15 > 9:10:18I'd say there was a combination of factors.

9:10:18 > 9:10:21I mean, lots of people like to talk about mumbling actors

9:10:21 > 9:10:23and they blame that. Maybe that's part of it.

9:10:23 > 9:10:25Maybe that was an artistic choice by the director,

9:10:25 > 9:10:29maybe it was an artistic choice by the actor.

9:10:29 > 9:10:33Maybe there's an issue with the mix, the level of sound effects,

9:10:33 > 9:10:35music compared to the dialogue.

9:10:35 > 9:10:38INDISTINCT SPEECH IN BACKGROUND DROWNS DIALOGUE

9:10:38 > 9:10:42Actors mumbling is a performance issue. That's...

9:10:42 > 9:10:48And whatever is performed in front of camera, as a sound department,

9:10:48 > 9:10:50that's what we're going to record.

9:10:50 > 9:10:52Ultimately, I think an actor has to be aware of the audience.

9:10:52 > 9:10:55They're there to tell a story, help tell a story,

9:10:55 > 9:10:59and, you know, the dialogue is key to that

9:10:59 > 9:11:02and making sure the dialogue is understood is key.

9:11:02 > 9:11:07It's as much about, you know, pronunciation and articulation

9:11:07 > 9:11:09and those factors.

9:11:09 > 9:11:11You like my new trinket, do you?

9:11:11 > 9:11:15I think it's great the BBC are carrying out an investigation. I think it's fantastic,

9:11:15 > 9:11:18and RADA would welcome the opportunity to be part of that.

9:11:18 > 9:11:22If it comes to the right conclusions and they're enacted, then it means

9:11:22 > 9:11:24the audience is going to have a far better experience at home.

9:11:26 > 9:11:28Come on, Mary! Come on!

9:11:29 > 9:11:34I know there's good in you. There must be!

9:11:36 > 9:11:39We're told the BBC are still looking into the whole issue

9:11:39 > 9:11:42and they will have more to say on this next week.

9:11:42 > 9:11:44We and all of you who got in touch, I'm sure,

9:11:44 > 9:11:47look forward to hearing that.

9:11:47 > 9:11:50Next, it is more of a problem of hearing too much

9:11:50 > 9:11:52and some of you complaining that coverage of

9:11:52 > 9:11:57the Snooker World Championship is being ruined by overeager commentary.

9:11:57 > 9:12:00DENNIS TAYLOR: He was in bed early, that's for sure.

9:12:00 > 9:12:01He did all the right things.

9:12:01 > 9:12:03But it's amazing, Willie.

9:12:03 > 9:12:07Sometimes you stay up a bit later and maybe just have a glass of wine

9:12:07 > 9:12:09and you... I remember Ray Reardon saying that.

9:12:09 > 9:12:12He came out and said he went to bed early

9:12:12 > 9:12:14and said he couldn't pot a ball next night.

9:12:14 > 9:12:17This was at the World Championships. Said to David Vine,

9:12:17 > 9:12:20"Had a few gin and tonics, couldn't miss a ball." Amazing!

9:12:39 > 9:12:44- TED LOWE:- This frame is now heading for a very thrilling climax.

9:12:44 > 9:12:46Whispering Ted Lowe proving

9:12:46 > 9:12:50sometimes some things are best left unsaid.

9:12:50 > 9:12:52As quietly as possible, please. Thank you.

9:12:56 > 9:13:00Providing a rare point of view this week, Generation War.

9:13:00 > 9:13:02A Second World War drama series

9:13:02 > 9:13:06telling the story from the German perspective.

9:13:06 > 9:13:08TRANSLATION FROM GERMAN:

9:13:22 > 9:13:24This has been a thought-provoking and, often times,

9:13:24 > 9:13:26uncomfortable look at normal Germans

9:13:26 > 9:13:30and the changes to their moral compasses brought about by Nazism

9:13:30 > 9:13:31and the events of World War II.

9:13:31 > 9:13:34It's been unflinching in its portrayal of Nazi atrocities

9:13:34 > 9:13:38against the Jews and ethnic Germans, the role played in these atrocities by normal Germans

9:13:38 > 9:13:41and the personal struggles they have coming to terms with their actions.

9:13:41 > 9:13:46Tough, but thought-provoking, drama in Generation War.

9:13:46 > 9:13:49If you were looking for something with a lighter touch this week,

9:13:49 > 9:13:52surely Happy Valley would have delivered.

9:13:52 > 9:13:53Wouldn't it?

9:13:53 > 9:13:56I'm Catherine, by the way. I'm 47, I'm divorced.

9:13:56 > 9:13:59I live with my sister, who's a recovering heroin addict.

9:13:59 > 9:14:02I've two grown-up children - one dead, one who doesn't speak to me -

9:14:02 > 9:14:03and a grandson, so...

9:14:03 > 9:14:06Why?

9:14:06 > 9:14:09- Why doesn't he speak to you?- It's complicated. Let's talk about you.

9:14:09 > 9:14:12Sarah Lancashire stars as a Yorkshire cop

9:14:12 > 9:14:16with plenty of troubles of her own in this not-so-happy valley.

9:14:16 > 9:14:18Brilliantly written

9:14:18 > 9:14:21and captivating from the start,

9:14:21 > 9:14:24with another superb performance from Sarah Lancashire.

9:14:31 > 9:14:34Great dialogue in Happy Valley.

9:14:34 > 9:14:38But it's the quality of the music in the BBC Young Musician 2014

9:14:38 > 9:14:40that's got you talking.

9:14:46 > 9:14:50From Elliott Gaston-Ross's percussion winning performance to

9:14:50 > 9:14:55Friday night's woodwind final winner Sophie Westbrooke on the recorder.

9:15:03 > 9:15:06All agree the series is a real treat.

9:15:06 > 9:15:10I've really enjoyed watching BBC Young Musician Of The Year this year.

9:15:10 > 9:15:13I watch it most years and it's fascinating to see

9:15:13 > 9:15:16the repertoire that the musicians pick to play.

9:15:16 > 9:15:19It's often very challenging for me, as an amateur musician,

9:15:19 > 9:15:24and it's really good to broaden my horizons and listen to new pieces.

9:15:24 > 9:15:26Thanks, Callum, for getting in touch.

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9:16:02 > 9:16:06# Exsultet iam angelica turba caelorum... #

9:16:08 > 9:16:10Finally, the last in the series and, it's thought,

9:16:10 > 9:16:14the last for some time of the sitcom Rev.

9:16:14 > 9:16:17'Here I am surrounded by the people who believe in me.

9:16:19 > 9:16:21'I'm going to miss them all, Lord.'

9:16:21 > 9:16:24You've been singing its praises all series.

9:16:24 > 9:16:27None more so than Methodist lay preacher Julie Stiddard.

9:16:27 > 9:16:29Now, due to a technical error,

9:16:29 > 9:16:33we broadcast Mrs Stiddard's comment out of context last week.

9:16:33 > 9:16:37Apologies for that. So here it is now in all its glory.

9:16:37 > 9:16:41I would like to record my appreciation to the writers

9:16:41 > 9:16:43of the Easter programme of Rev.

9:16:43 > 9:16:48They captured the whole message of Easter in a wonderful way,

9:16:48 > 9:16:51which would have been recognised by Christians,

9:16:51 > 9:16:55and certainly made the Easter message very real for me.

9:16:55 > 9:16:59In fact, the whole series has been a delight.

9:16:59 > 9:17:02And we say hallelujah to that. Goodbye.