Episode 19

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0:00:02 > 0:00:05JAMES BOND THEME

0:00:07 > 0:00:10The name is Vine, Jeremy Vine.

0:00:10 > 0:00:14Well, if everyone else is doing it, why can't I?

0:00:14 > 0:00:18Jumping on the Bondwagon. Has the BBC gone too far?

0:00:18 > 0:00:20Welcome to your Points of View.

0:00:30 > 0:00:34But before we get to Bond, we start with the other big story

0:00:34 > 0:00:36leaving you shaken and stirred this week.

0:00:36 > 0:00:41It is a brand-new police series on Wednesday night on BBC One.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44This is Kilo 220. Show us State Five to that call, please.

0:00:47 > 0:00:50Set among the piers and beaches of Brighton,

0:00:50 > 0:00:53Cuffs is a gritty portrayal of modern day policing.

0:00:53 > 0:00:55Donna, what's your position?

0:01:00 > 0:01:03Control, heading north...

0:01:03 > 0:01:05I am on Gardner, heading north. Eyes on.

0:01:09 > 0:01:14With a suicide, a stabbing, a considerable amount of blood

0:01:14 > 0:01:18and a bundle of bad language, to name but a few offenders, for some,

0:01:18 > 0:01:22this one was just too gritty for the pre-watershed slot of eight o'clock.

0:01:22 > 0:01:26My wife and I watched Cuffs on Wednesday night

0:01:26 > 0:01:31and this episode included a stabbing of a youth, child abduction,

0:01:31 > 0:01:36a man who had hanged himself an attempted suicide, prostitution,

0:01:36 > 0:01:41gratuitous violence, everything on at 8pm before the watershed.

0:01:41 > 0:01:45What were the BBC thinking, putting it on at 8pm?

0:01:45 > 0:01:47I enjoyed Cuffs, I enjoyed watching it.

0:01:47 > 0:01:49I think it is going to be a good series.

0:01:49 > 0:01:53But it was not suitable for the eight o'clock slot.

0:01:53 > 0:01:55I'm afraid the language was very adult,

0:01:55 > 0:02:01the content was very adult and it should have been after nine o'clock.

0:02:01 > 0:02:05It was very good but it included the use of bad language,

0:02:05 > 0:02:08three swear words were used during the programme

0:02:08 > 0:02:11and these swear words would not be allowed on at any other time,

0:02:11 > 0:02:13any other programme at 8pm.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16If these swear words were used in Doctor Who or EastEnders,

0:02:16 > 0:02:19for example, there would be uproar.

0:02:19 > 0:02:23Either move Cuffs to 9pm or remove the bad language. We don't need it.

0:02:24 > 0:02:28And it wasn't just the audience that were surprised by the early slot.

0:02:28 > 0:02:30Appearing on The One Show, actress Amanda Abbington,

0:02:30 > 0:02:33who plays DC Jo Moffat, seemed to be taken aback too.

0:02:33 > 0:02:37I didn't know it was pre-watershed until a couple months into it.

0:02:37 > 0:02:40It's on at eight! I didn't know that, though.

0:02:40 > 0:02:42We were told by the producer Trevor,

0:02:42 > 0:02:44he said this will be on at eight, and I said, "What?!"

0:02:44 > 0:02:46So what is the score here?

0:02:46 > 0:02:49ITV have been having their own issues with a drama, Jekyll And Hyde,

0:02:49 > 0:02:53being shown before the nine o'clock watershed, so is

0:02:53 > 0:02:56the BBC saying, "Anything they can do, we can do better"?

0:02:56 > 0:02:58The drama department told us...

0:03:07 > 0:03:10They say they took great care to make viewers aware of the content

0:03:10 > 0:03:13through on-air trails and pre-publicity,

0:03:13 > 0:03:16but for those who complained, this obviously wasn't enough.

0:03:16 > 0:03:19You say that it mimics real life.

0:03:19 > 0:03:20Well, if that is real life,

0:03:20 > 0:03:26I don't want to be seeing that with my 10 and 11-year-old grandchildren.

0:03:26 > 0:03:30I just would like you to put the programme to after

0:03:30 > 0:03:31nine o'clock at night.

0:03:31 > 0:03:34And it is not just the drama department who were forced to

0:03:34 > 0:03:38apologise for a breach of the watershed guidelines this week.

0:03:38 > 0:03:43Bruno Tonioli left Strictly's hosts red-faced after his rather

0:03:43 > 0:03:46rude slip-up on last Saturday's Strictly Come Dancing.

0:03:46 > 0:03:48I was standing not far away at the time.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52The Italian judge, no stranger to PASSION on the show,

0:03:52 > 0:03:56overstepping the mark with his reference to a bull's private parts.

0:03:57 > 0:04:00Yes, those are the bull's...

0:04:00 > 0:04:03MOOING

0:04:03 > 0:04:06With Bruno seemingly unaware of his, let's stick to slip-up,

0:04:06 > 0:04:09it was left to host Tess Daly to apologise.

0:04:09 > 0:04:13I would just like to apologise for Bruno's language there.

0:04:13 > 0:04:15He got a little overexcited.

0:04:15 > 0:04:16Sorry, I didn't realise.

0:04:16 > 0:04:20He certainly didn't mean any offence by that.

0:04:20 > 0:04:22The BBC also apologised on social media

0:04:22 > 0:04:27but the pre-watershed swear word was a step too far for some.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29I was really angry and upset.

0:04:29 > 0:04:31This is a family programme,

0:04:31 > 0:04:35shown well before the watershed at prime time on Saturday night.

0:04:35 > 0:04:40Bruno, come on, clean up your act, you're spoiling the programme.

0:04:40 > 0:04:43I think Bruno needs to remember that Strictly is a family show

0:04:43 > 0:04:45and you cannot just say and do whatever he wants

0:04:45 > 0:04:48because his behaviour last Saturday was really inappropriate.

0:04:54 > 0:04:58Well, Sandie, we did ask but we were given a polite no.

0:04:58 > 0:05:03It seems Signore Tonioli wishes in this instance to remain silent.

0:05:03 > 0:05:05MOOING

0:05:06 > 0:05:09From Bruno to Bond, at last,

0:05:09 > 0:05:11and you would need to have been stuck in an underground bunker over

0:05:11 > 0:05:16the past two weeks to not have known a new Bond movie has been released.

0:05:16 > 0:05:19Come on, we have got to talk about James Bond. Bond is back.

0:05:19 > 0:05:24He famously said he won't play James Bond again. Bond hurts.

0:05:25 > 0:05:26That's nice, isn't it?

0:05:26 > 0:05:29The latest in a long line of brilliant Bond villains,

0:05:29 > 0:05:31please welcome Christoph Waltz.

0:05:33 > 0:05:35Miss Moneypenny, it's Naomie Harris.

0:05:36 > 0:05:38Daniel Craig!

0:05:38 > 0:05:40CHEERING

0:05:41 > 0:05:43From the news to The One Show,

0:05:43 > 0:05:47from Graham Norton to a special Bond night on BBC Four,

0:05:47 > 0:05:50so widespread has the coverage for Spectre been that

0:05:50 > 0:05:51some of you are asking

0:05:51 > 0:05:56if the corporation has been licensed to sell free promotion for the film.

0:05:56 > 0:06:00On the Points Of View message board, one poster, Polemicist, says...

0:06:06 > 0:06:10But Hanger Lane - where do they get these names from? - disagrees...

0:06:17 > 0:06:20In praise of BBC Four's Premium Bond tribute to the secret agent,

0:06:20 > 0:06:22Chris Rogers says...

0:06:26 > 0:06:29From one international man of mystery to another.

0:06:29 > 0:06:33Alan Yentob was in Venice for the return of the highbrow arts

0:06:33 > 0:06:35series Imagine on BBC Two.

0:06:36 > 0:06:40For his latest novel, Jacobson has agreed to retell

0:06:40 > 0:06:44the story of the most odious Jew that literature ever spawned.

0:06:44 > 0:06:47The cruel and merciless Shylock,

0:06:47 > 0:06:51from Shakespeare's most performed play, The Merchant of Venice.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53With the help of some very knowledgeable academics,

0:06:53 > 0:06:57the BBC's man of the arts set about exploding the belief that

0:06:57 > 0:07:00Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice was anti-Semitic.

0:07:00 > 0:07:01I am a Jew.

0:07:06 > 0:07:11Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions?

0:07:11 > 0:07:15I don't think the play, in and of itself, bears hatred.

0:07:15 > 0:07:16Despite its late-night slot,

0:07:16 > 0:07:20literary fans were wide awake enjoying this one.

0:07:20 > 0:07:24On Twitter, Anna Maria Barry really enjoyed it and said it was...

0:07:27 > 0:07:29And Ariane describes Shylock's ghost as...

0:07:31 > 0:07:35I loved that they didn't try to give easy answers to difficult questions.

0:07:35 > 0:07:37They drew out the play's ambiguity.

0:07:37 > 0:07:40So having watched the programme, I am still not really sure what

0:07:40 > 0:07:44I think about Shylock but I am happy that I don't know what I think.

0:07:44 > 0:07:46For me, that is a mark of a great arts programme.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49Now, BBC Three had a very personal and moving

0:07:49 > 0:07:53documentary on Tuesday night which saw the rapper, Professor Green,

0:07:53 > 0:07:58uncover the truth behind his father's suicide seven years ago.

0:07:58 > 0:08:01We look happy. You do, yeah. Well, you was.

0:08:09 > 0:08:12We saw the star, whose real name is Stephen Manderson,

0:08:12 > 0:08:15open up to his family for the first time about his estrangement

0:08:15 > 0:08:18from his father in this exploration into why

0:08:18 > 0:08:22so many young men take their own lives each year.

0:08:22 > 0:08:27Suicide is the biggest killer of men under 45, which is

0:08:27 > 0:08:29something not a lot of people are aware of.

0:08:29 > 0:08:32It is so important for mental health problems to be televised

0:08:32 > 0:08:33and talked about like this.

0:08:33 > 0:08:35I think it is really important for celebrities

0:08:35 > 0:08:38and people with profile within the media to show their experiences.

0:08:38 > 0:08:41I think Professor Green's experience will encourage others to talk

0:08:41 > 0:08:42and seek help.

0:08:42 > 0:08:46A real powerful and quite raw insight to what happens to

0:08:46 > 0:08:49those of us who are left behind after suicide.

0:08:49 > 0:08:52Thank you for raising awareness of suicide

0:08:52 > 0:08:54and sharing your story with us.

0:08:54 > 0:08:58Thanks to all of you who got in touch to comment on that programme

0:08:58 > 0:08:59and all the others this week.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02If you are watching something on the BBC and you would like to have

0:09:02 > 0:09:05your say, there are a number of ways to get in touch,

0:09:05 > 0:09:07as I'm sure you know...

0:09:10 > 0:09:14You can join us on our Facebook page, find us on Twitter.

0:09:14 > 0:09:16Just look for Points Of View.

0:09:16 > 0:09:19For a full list of our contact details and a link to the

0:09:19 > 0:09:22message board forum, log on to our programme page,

0:09:22 > 0:09:25that's bbc.co.uk/pointsofview.

0:09:25 > 0:09:29One complaint that comes up time and again at Points Of View HQ is

0:09:29 > 0:09:33that of presenters who, well, maybe do too much presenting.

0:09:33 > 0:09:36Some viewers feel the same faces appear across too many

0:09:36 > 0:09:39programmes and they want the BBC to give others a chance.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43Matt Baker, why is he on so many programmes?

0:09:43 > 0:09:44I have nothing against the guy

0:09:44 > 0:09:48but you get fed up of seeing the same presenters on every show.

0:09:48 > 0:09:52The One Show... Hello, and welcome. ..Countryfile...

0:09:52 > 0:09:57Now, mussels make a naturally nutritious meal. ..Big Blue Live...

0:09:57 > 0:10:00Timing is absolutely impeccable. ..and now the gymnastics.

0:10:00 > 0:10:02Let's start by talking about performing.

0:10:02 > 0:10:05Surely with the talent you have,

0:10:05 > 0:10:08you should use different people for different programmes.

0:10:08 > 0:10:12It could only be one man. Matt Baker isn't an expert on everything.

0:10:12 > 0:10:14Prepare to be amazed.

0:10:14 > 0:10:15It was just the same

0:10:15 > 0:10:18when Clare Balding was on all those programmes.

0:10:18 > 0:10:19Again and again and again.

0:10:19 > 0:10:24Should be more expertise shown by the BBC and less favouritism.

0:10:26 > 0:10:28Recently, I've thought that Anita Rani had taken up

0:10:28 > 0:10:31residence at the back of our television because it

0:10:31 > 0:10:35scarcely seemed possible to turn the TV on without seeing her.

0:10:35 > 0:10:38On The One Show... A global phenomenon.

0:10:38 > 0:10:43..The World's Busiest Railway... It is just completely different.

0:10:43 > 0:10:47..Countryfile... Look at the view. ..Who Do You Think You Are?

0:10:47 > 0:10:51It is really important. And, of course, she is on Strictly as well.

0:10:51 > 0:10:55Hopefully I will be able to wow everybody. Is she an entertainer?

0:10:55 > 0:10:58Is she a presenter? Is she a serious journalist?

0:11:01 > 0:11:06Welcome to the City of Joy! Also in the firing line, Sue Perkins.

0:11:06 > 0:11:09She was on telly last Friday on The One Show.

0:11:09 > 0:11:11She saw what a phenomenon it might become.

0:11:11 > 0:11:15I turned it over to BBC Two, where she was on again.

0:11:15 > 0:11:16On your marks... Get set... Bake.

0:11:16 > 0:11:18I didn't turn the television on again

0:11:18 > 0:11:20until nine o'clock so I could watch my favourite

0:11:20 > 0:11:23panel show, Have I Got News For You. There she was again...

0:11:23 > 0:11:26I am Sue Perkins. ..telling me the news that she had for me.

0:11:26 > 0:11:30People get fed up of the same old faces on each programme.

0:11:30 > 0:11:32I'm sure you can do better than this.

0:11:32 > 0:11:36My short message to the BBC is, try much harder to

0:11:36 > 0:11:40use your resources to bring on new, fresh faces.

0:11:40 > 0:11:43It is boring seeing the same people all the time.

0:11:43 > 0:11:47Please, you can do better than this. Thank you.

0:11:58 > 0:12:00No! No, no.

0:12:02 > 0:12:03No, get back.

0:12:06 > 0:12:08Time for another quick TV cop moment.

0:12:08 > 0:12:12It was the final episode in the Scandi-styled From Darkness.

0:12:12 > 0:12:15A bit of light and shade in the response to this one.

0:12:15 > 0:12:20It was very hard to follow, kept jumping from scene to scene

0:12:20 > 0:12:24and the best bit about it was the ending, thank goodness it was over.

0:12:24 > 0:12:28For the past month I have endured watching this show every

0:12:28 > 0:12:30Sunday night at nine o'clock.

0:12:30 > 0:12:33From episode one, two and three, instantly forgettable

0:12:33 > 0:12:36and I held on for episode four,

0:12:36 > 0:12:39waiting for something to happen and really nothing did.

0:12:39 > 0:12:43There was long periods of silence, close-ups on the characters.

0:12:43 > 0:12:46That's not tension, that's just irritating.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49But worst of all was nothing was fully explained.

0:13:01 > 0:13:05So disappointed with the programme. It had so many ridiculous plotlines.

0:13:05 > 0:13:09Do the BBC think its viewers are complete idiots?

0:13:09 > 0:13:11You must be Mrs Harding.

0:13:11 > 0:13:14This is a lovely party, I am sure you are very proud. Thank you.

0:13:14 > 0:13:16I don't believe we have met.

0:13:16 > 0:13:18Fiona, I think we should get the guests seated.

0:13:18 > 0:13:21Ladies and gentlemen, if you would all like to take your seats,

0:13:21 > 0:13:23dinner will be served shortly.

0:13:23 > 0:13:25Claire Church, Greater Manchester Police,

0:13:25 > 0:13:27this is Detective Chief Inspector John Hind.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30Your husband is being assisting us with our investigations.

0:13:30 > 0:13:33Always good to hear from you, and that is it for this week.

0:13:33 > 0:13:35Next Sunday is our last in the series

0:13:35 > 0:13:39and we are on at the earlier time of 3pm so don't forget to let us

0:13:39 > 0:13:42know your thoughts on what you're watching in the week to come.

0:13:42 > 0:13:43Till then, goodbye.

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