Episode 19

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0:00:02 > 0:00:03This is Points Of View,

0:00:03 > 0:00:05but as you've probably worked out, I'm not Jeremy Vine.

0:00:05 > 0:00:08It's Scott Mills here, standing in for your regular host

0:00:08 > 0:00:10for one week only, and what a privilege that is.

0:00:10 > 0:00:12Welcome to your Points Of View.

0:00:22 > 0:00:25It's quite nice here, I'm liking the colour scheme.

0:00:25 > 0:00:27First up this week, it was billed as an episode full of

0:00:27 > 0:00:29dramatic moments and seismic events,

0:00:29 > 0:00:33and last Sunday's Poldark ended up hitting the headlines.

0:00:35 > 0:00:39The latest instalment of BBC One's Cornwall-set drama featured

0:00:39 > 0:00:41a fateful encounter between the show's hero, Ross,

0:00:41 > 0:00:44and his former lover, Elizabeth.

0:00:44 > 0:00:47After bursting into her home, Ross confronted Elizabeth over her plans

0:00:47 > 0:00:50to marry his nemesis, George Warleggan.

0:00:50 > 0:00:52We both know you don't love him.

0:00:52 > 0:00:55I love him to distraction and will marry him next month.

0:00:59 > 0:01:00Ross!

0:01:00 > 0:01:03It was what happened next that caused controversy.

0:01:03 > 0:01:07Viewers saw Ross throwing Elizabeth onto the bed then pinning her down

0:01:07 > 0:01:09before she was seen succumbing to his advances

0:01:09 > 0:01:11and responding passionately.

0:01:11 > 0:01:14Come Monday morning, the scene was the subject of articles in print

0:01:14 > 0:01:18and online that included accusations the scene reinforced

0:01:18 > 0:01:21damaging narratives around the issue of consent.

0:01:21 > 0:01:23Your reaction, however, was balanced.

0:01:23 > 0:01:26Some felt the portrayal of Ross and Elizabeth's encounter

0:01:26 > 0:01:28was unacceptable.

0:01:52 > 0:01:55Others, though, were quick to come to the drama's defence.

0:02:17 > 0:02:20Following the episode's coverage in the press, the series writer,

0:02:20 > 0:02:23Debbie Horsfield, explained that in the novels the conclusion

0:02:23 > 0:02:26of the scene was left to readers' imagination.

0:02:26 > 0:02:27She went on to say...

0:02:48 > 0:02:50The BBC told us they support Debbie

0:02:50 > 0:02:52and the programme makers' interpretation.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55Travelling forward in time next to modern day London

0:02:55 > 0:02:59and a brand-new Doctor Who spin-off that launched online last weekend.

0:03:00 > 0:03:03Eagerly awaited by Whovians - that's Doctor Who fans to you and me -

0:03:03 > 0:03:08the first two episodes of BBC Three's Class landed last Saturday.

0:03:08 > 0:03:10Aimed at young adults, the series focuses on

0:03:10 > 0:03:14a group of school students struggling with supernatural events.

0:03:14 > 0:03:17You can't seriously expect these juveniles to deal with

0:03:17 > 0:03:20whatever's going to come through these tears in space and time.

0:03:20 > 0:03:21- Through the what? - It's like a hellmouth.

0:03:21 > 0:03:24- Or that town in Once Upon A Time. - Or The Vampire Diaries.

0:03:24 > 0:03:25You watch Vampire Diaries?

0:03:25 > 0:03:28Your report cards are in on the series debut,

0:03:28 > 0:03:29and you've graded it highly.

0:03:36 > 0:03:37I love it.

0:03:38 > 0:03:42I think the cast and writing are great,

0:03:42 > 0:03:46and I absolutely adore the characters.

0:03:47 > 0:03:48Can't wait for more.

0:03:48 > 0:03:50Some of you, meanwhile, are just begging for

0:03:50 > 0:03:53a terrestrial television outing for the show.

0:03:55 > 0:03:58Well, we've managed to look into the future and can reveal Class

0:03:58 > 0:04:01will be making an appearance on BBC One.

0:04:01 > 0:04:03What we weren't able to deduce was when,

0:04:03 > 0:04:04so keep an eye on your listings.

0:04:05 > 0:04:09Last week marked 50 years since the fateful day an avalanche of

0:04:09 > 0:04:14coal waste killed 144 people, including 116 children,

0:04:14 > 0:04:16in the Welsh village of Aberfan.

0:04:16 > 0:04:18Commemorative programmes on the BBC included

0:04:18 > 0:04:22a film by poet Owen Sheers and a memorial concert.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25Last Sunday's Songs Of Praise also revisited the tragedy,

0:04:25 > 0:04:28with presenter Aled Jones hearing from two people speaking for the

0:04:28 > 0:04:33first time about their experiences of the event that shocked the world.

0:04:33 > 0:04:37I kept hope going until about

0:04:37 > 0:04:40three o'clock in the morning the next day,

0:04:40 > 0:04:45when my husband came home and said, "They found Sharon."

0:04:45 > 0:04:46It was moving viewing,

0:04:46 > 0:04:49but around halfway through Sunday's episode the programme also

0:04:49 > 0:04:52featured an interview with, and a song from, Alexander Armstrong.

0:04:52 > 0:04:55That was followed by a preview of a gospel choir competition

0:04:55 > 0:04:57and a performance from last year's winner.

0:04:57 > 0:04:59You were not impressed.

0:05:14 > 0:05:17Malcolm wasn't the only one with that point of view.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28Well, we did put your complaints to

0:05:28 > 0:05:30the executive producer of Songs Of Praise.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32Here's what he had to say.

0:05:55 > 0:05:56Right, quick quiz for you.

0:05:56 > 0:05:59What do daredevil dogs, cyclists wearing capes,

0:05:59 > 0:06:01and a lunar landing have in common?

0:06:03 > 0:06:06The answer is they've all formed the basis of one of BBC One's

0:06:06 > 0:06:07circle idents.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10First appearing on our screen ten years ago this month,

0:06:10 > 0:06:14the familiar films have now been seen over 2,100 times

0:06:14 > 0:06:17by the average British television viewer.

0:06:17 > 0:06:20Good fact, that. The idents have, it turns out, also proved

0:06:20 > 0:06:24a source of fascination for one young Points Of View correspondent.

0:06:42 > 0:06:45How could we refuse such a polite request?

0:06:45 > 0:06:48Steve Brown took seven-year-old Luis and mum Caroline to the BBC's

0:06:48 > 0:06:53Broadcast Centre in London to get to the bottom of his ident enquiries.

0:06:53 > 0:06:54Luis! High five!

0:06:54 > 0:06:58- Excellent! You happy to be here? - Yeah.- Come on, then, let's go.

0:06:58 > 0:07:00Let's go inside.

0:07:00 > 0:07:03First up, they met Ollie Harnett, BBC One's Creative Head.

0:07:06 > 0:07:08How did they come up with the idea?

0:07:08 > 0:07:11We were looking for an idea that really expressed coming together,

0:07:11 > 0:07:13and if you think about it,

0:07:13 > 0:07:16a circle is a perfect shape for things and people to come together.

0:07:19 > 0:07:24- How did they make the hippos swim in a circle?- Very good question.

0:07:24 > 0:07:25This is called storyboarding.

0:07:25 > 0:07:28Once we've got that approved, we'll go and film it, and then we'll

0:07:28 > 0:07:33use a lot of computer trickery to make...to bring the magic together.

0:07:33 > 0:07:37- What, so it's CGI, not real? - That's CGI, absolutely, yeah.

0:07:37 > 0:07:40- I thought it was going to be real hippos!- Did you really?

0:07:40 > 0:07:43Well, I think it would have taken a few years to train those hippos

0:07:43 > 0:07:45to swim in a circle, wouldn't it?

0:07:45 > 0:07:47THEY LAUGH

0:07:48 > 0:07:52So we've had a lot of ideas for idents which never got made.

0:07:52 > 0:07:55- Would you like to see some of them? - Yeah.- OK.

0:07:55 > 0:07:58So this one was little babies, so the idea is that they're playing

0:07:58 > 0:08:00with all these different coloured balls,

0:08:00 > 0:08:02and then when you reveal the top shot,

0:08:02 > 0:08:04they've made a circle out of all the red balls.

0:08:04 > 0:08:06The idea for this one was that

0:08:06 > 0:08:07somebody would throw a stick for a dog,

0:08:07 > 0:08:10and then the reveal is that there's loads of dogs running

0:08:10 > 0:08:13around in a circle on the beach. So that one never got made.

0:08:13 > 0:08:18- Sad, isn't it?- Maybe that's how you get new idents. You could make that!

0:08:18 > 0:08:21Absolutely, we've got loads of spare ideas.

0:08:21 > 0:08:24Before you go, I've got a present for you.

0:08:24 > 0:08:27It's the dog display ident, and you can put that on your wall,

0:08:27 > 0:08:32- and that's a memento of your visit to BBC Broadcast Centre.- Yes!

0:08:32 > 0:08:35Shall we go and find out who schedules in the idents now?

0:08:35 > 0:08:36Yes, please!

0:08:39 > 0:08:43- This is Toni.- Hi, Luis!

0:08:43 > 0:08:46I schedule the idents for BBC One.

0:08:46 > 0:08:50Would you like to maybe have a go at Toni's job and schedule in

0:08:50 > 0:08:52- some of the idents?- Oh, yes!

0:08:52 > 0:08:54We've got, er, a junction coming up soon,

0:08:54 > 0:08:57and you can choose whichever ident you want.

0:08:57 > 0:09:01- Would you like to choose Dog Display if it's your favourite?- Yeah!- Yeah?

0:09:01 > 0:09:03See, it's Magic Forest at the moment,

0:09:03 > 0:09:07so what we're going to do is change that for you so it's Dog Display.

0:09:07 > 0:09:09Five seconds.

0:09:09 > 0:09:11Here it comes. Two...

0:09:12 > 0:09:15- And there we go!- That's your choice!

0:09:15 > 0:09:18ANNOUNCER: Brand-new Flog It follows in 45 minutes.

0:09:18 > 0:09:21- Ama-a-azing!- Amazing!

0:09:24 > 0:09:27There was no computer generated wildlife in sight

0:09:27 > 0:09:29as Autumnwatch returned to BBC Two this week.

0:09:29 > 0:09:30Only the real deal.

0:09:33 > 0:09:35Celebrating its tenth year on our screens,

0:09:35 > 0:09:38this year's series set up camp in a brand-new location,

0:09:38 > 0:09:39the RSPB Arne reserve in Dorset,

0:09:39 > 0:09:43with Chris Packham, Michaela Strachan and Martin Hughes-Games

0:09:43 > 0:09:47keeping an eye on the unfolding animal action.

0:09:47 > 0:09:51Seconds ago, this is what we saw on our live badger cam,

0:09:51 > 0:09:55and we saw a fox, beautiful looking fox.

0:09:55 > 0:09:57Now, is this a young one, do you reckon, Chris?

0:09:57 > 0:09:58I think it is a young one.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01On Twitter, you were delighted to see the nature-spotting series,

0:10:01 > 0:10:03and its presenters, return.

0:10:13 > 0:10:15How right you are, NegativeAl,

0:10:15 > 0:10:19how right you are - thanks to this little scene on Monday night.

0:10:19 > 0:10:20Would you snog a squirrel?

0:10:20 > 0:10:23Um, no, I definitely would not snog a squirrel.

0:10:23 > 0:10:26Is it really appropriate that Chris Packham asked

0:10:26 > 0:10:31Michaela Strachan whether she would snog a red squirrel?

0:10:31 > 0:10:34Is that really appropriate for a family programme?

0:10:45 > 0:10:48That's got to be the first time talk of squirrel-snogging's

0:10:48 > 0:10:50made it onto Points Of View, right?

0:10:50 > 0:10:53Moving on, the natural instincts of a creature usually spotted

0:10:53 > 0:10:56in the Strictly studio have you at your wits' end.

0:11:02 > 0:11:04# Can't keep my hands to myself

0:11:07 > 0:11:09# My hands to myself

0:11:11 > 0:11:13# Can't keep my hands to myself... #

0:11:21 > 0:11:24I know what you mean, I've got first "hand" experience.

0:11:24 > 0:11:27Please don't tell me this is the lobster clip!

0:11:27 > 0:11:28- My clothes fell off, nearly.- Oh, no.

0:11:28 > 0:11:31- Hang on, we wouldn't want that to happen, would we?- No-one wants that.

0:11:31 > 0:11:33Any excuse to drag that one out, eh?

0:11:33 > 0:11:36Tess, if you're watching, I'll let Barbara have the last word.

0:11:36 > 0:11:37Or three.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41Oh, gosh, sorry!

0:11:41 > 0:11:44And finally all we're left with are "fondant" memories as

0:11:44 > 0:11:47The Great British Bake-Off crowned its final winner

0:11:47 > 0:11:49on BBC One this week.

0:11:50 > 0:11:53Not counting two upcoming Christmas specials,

0:11:53 > 0:11:56it was of course our last chance to see the dream team -

0:11:56 > 0:11:57Mel, Sue, Mary and Paul -

0:11:57 > 0:12:00together in the tent, after three of the team

0:12:00 > 0:12:03announced they won't be making the move to Channel 4.

0:12:03 > 0:12:07Well, this was an absolute humdinger of a show stopper.

0:12:07 > 0:12:09The standard was exceptionally high.

0:12:09 > 0:12:13By all accounts, Wednesday night proved emotional for you.

0:12:20 > 0:12:23I heard even the cakes were in "tiers." Get it?

0:12:23 > 0:12:25That's all for this week, but as Mr Vine always says,

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0:12:28 > 0:12:30I hear he's a fan of foul-ups in particular.

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0:12:51 > 0:12:54Next week, Jeremy is back in the hot seat for the last show

0:12:54 > 0:12:56in the series, and guess what?

0:12:56 > 0:12:58As I gather happens regularly round these parts,

0:12:58 > 0:13:00we've been bumped for sport.

0:13:00 > 0:13:03Points Of View is on BBC One next Sunday at the earlier time of

0:13:03 > 0:13:05half past one, and I will leave you with

0:13:05 > 0:13:09a slice of Bake-Off's best bits from its time on the BBC.

0:13:09 > 0:13:10Thanks for having me.

0:13:10 > 0:13:13# Goodbye, my friend... #

0:13:13 > 0:13:16- There's too much salt in there! - It is dead salty.- Oh!

0:13:16 > 0:13:19I think that's my elbow! I think that's my elbow in your muffin!

0:13:19 > 0:13:22OK. Oh!

0:13:22 > 0:13:26- Oh, no. Oh, God. - Oh, my God, I would sooner...

0:13:26 > 0:13:27I would sooner have another baby!

0:13:27 > 0:13:31That is one of the best things I've seen in bread ever.

0:13:31 > 0:13:33It's going to taste rather good.

0:13:33 > 0:13:35- You've finished!- Wahey! Well done!