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0:00:02 > 0:00:07- The story of Welsh football - is one worth telling.
0:00:07 > 0:00:10- Like in all good stories, - there are heroes...
0:00:10 > 0:00:12- ..and villains.
0:00:13 > 0:00:17- There are tough, physical battles...
0:00:18 > 0:00:20- ..and emotional ones too.
0:00:21 > 0:00:24- In the series, - I'll visit village grounds...
0:00:25 > 0:00:26- Save!
0:00:26 > 0:00:28- ..and city stadiums.
0:00:28 > 0:00:32- I'll meet the people - who helped shape the game in Wales.
0:00:46 > 0:00:52- From the start, Welsh football - has battled to overcome obstacles.
0:00:52 > 0:00:57- These prevented the growth - of the game to such an extent...
0:00:58 > 0:01:02- ..that we were left behind, - compared to the rest of Britain.
0:01:06 > 0:01:08- But the game is still with us...
0:01:08 > 0:01:11- ..and it's in really good shape.
0:01:12 > 0:01:14- But as we'll see...
0:01:14 > 0:01:18- ..it's quite surprising considering - what it was up against.
0:01:19 > 0:01:21- We'll start with the obvious one.
0:01:22 > 0:01:23- Rugby.
0:01:24 > 0:01:26- Our national game?!
0:01:30 > 0:01:33- WHAT IS WALES'S NATIONAL GAME?
0:01:33 > 0:01:34- Rugby.
0:01:34 > 0:01:35- Rugby.- - Football.
0:01:35 > 0:01:36- Football.
0:01:36 > 0:01:37- Football.- - Rugby.
0:01:38 > 0:01:39- It's more football now.
0:01:39 > 0:01:41- It's more football now.- - No, rugby.
0:01:41 > 0:01:42- Football.
0:01:42 > 0:01:43- Rugby.
0:01:43 > 0:01:44- Rugby.- - Rugby.
0:01:44 > 0:01:48- All Welsh people like rugby.
0:01:49 > 0:01:51- That was fairly equal.
0:01:52 > 0:01:56- According to Wikipedia, - rugby is our national game.
0:01:56 > 0:01:58- I'm not sure about that.
0:01:59 > 0:02:02- If you came here - on two or three weekends...
0:02:03 > 0:02:05- ..between January and March...
0:02:05 > 0:02:10- ..to be greeted by felt daffodils - and sparkly cowboy hats...
0:02:10 > 0:02:12- ..you could well believe it.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16- But is it true? Or is it all hype?
0:02:18 > 0:02:22- For every rugby club in Wales, - there are four football clubs.
0:02:23 > 0:02:25- 320 rugby clubs...
0:02:26 > 0:02:29- ..but over - a thousand football clubs.
0:02:29 > 0:02:33- How many players - are registered with the clubs?
0:02:33 > 0:02:35- 25,000 rugby players.
0:02:36 > 0:02:38- 90,000 football players.
0:02:40 > 0:02:46- Before we argue about it, - rugby and football are siblings.
0:02:46 > 0:02:50- That's Rugby Football - and Association Football...
0:02:50 > 0:02:53- ..to give them - their posh English names.
0:02:54 > 0:02:57- They only parted company - 150 years ago.
0:02:57 > 0:03:03- I've come to Ruthin School - to find out more from Meilyr Emrys.
0:03:03 > 0:03:07- His specialist field - is the game's early history.
0:03:08 > 0:03:12- Schools have played - a part in the game's development.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14- Ever since the Middle Ages...
0:03:15 > 0:03:19- ..some sort of football, if you - can call it that, was played...
0:03:20 > 0:03:23- ..between villages - or in public schools.
0:03:23 > 0:03:25- In these games...
0:03:25 > 0:03:30- ..the ball was an excuse - to have an almighty brawl.
0:03:31 > 0:03:35- This was a problem, - especially for the public schools.
0:03:35 > 0:03:37- By the early 19th century...
0:03:37 > 0:03:40- ..schools like Eton and Harrow ...
0:03:40 > 0:03:44- ..had lost their good name - because of the way they played.
0:03:44 > 0:03:47- By the mid-19th century...
0:03:48 > 0:03:50- ..the teachers realized...
0:03:50 > 0:03:54- ..that seeing as - the boys played football...
0:03:54 > 0:03:57- ..they should devise - rules for the game...
0:03:58 > 0:04:00- ..to control what they were doing.
0:04:00 > 0:04:04- They used the sport - to underline values...
0:04:05 > 0:04:09- ..such as bravery, - self-discipline and teamwork.
0:04:09 > 0:04:14- But unfortunately, every school - developed their own set of rules.
0:04:14 > 0:04:16- How did the rules differ?
0:04:16 > 0:04:22- Some schools allowed the pupils - to hold and run with the ball.
0:04:22 > 0:04:28- Other schools insisted the boys - could only use their feet.
0:04:28 > 0:04:31- The other issue was, - how dirty could they play?
0:04:32 > 0:04:35- To some, the idea - of hacking and shinning...
0:04:35 > 0:04:37- ..was totally fair.
0:04:42 > 0:04:45- It's only after leaving school...
0:04:45 > 0:04:49- ..that the different rules - posed a problem.
0:04:50 > 0:04:54- The boys wanted to continue - playing football in college.
0:04:54 > 0:04:57- No-one knew which rules to follow.
0:04:57 > 0:05:01- It started in Cambridge, - in the late 1840s.
0:05:01 > 0:05:05- A definitive set of rules - was devised.
0:05:05 > 0:05:08- They're very similar - to today's rules.
0:05:08 > 0:05:13- That's when rugby followers - decided to strike out on their own.
0:05:15 > 0:05:20- Representatives from Rugby School - took part in the debate.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23- They couldn't have their own way...
0:05:23 > 0:05:27- ..when it came to - ball-handling and playing dirty.
0:05:27 > 0:05:32- They literally ran off with the ball - and concentrated on playing rugby.
0:05:34 > 0:05:36- The two games took hold in Wales.
0:05:36 > 0:05:39- In the early days...
0:05:40 > 0:05:44- ..the line between football - and rugby was still blurred.
0:05:45 > 0:05:47- Believe it or not...
0:05:47 > 0:05:52- ..there's evidence of clubs - playing rugby in the first half...
0:05:52 > 0:05:54- ..and football in the second.
0:05:56 > 0:05:58- Balls were hard to come by.
0:05:58 > 0:06:02- In the first game - of the 1876 season...
0:06:02 > 0:06:06- ..Llanelwedd played football - against Radnorshire Wanderers.
0:06:07 > 0:06:09- When the ball burst...
0:06:09 > 0:06:12- ..they switched to playing rugby.
0:06:14 > 0:06:18- By the 20th century, - these inconsistencies disappeared.
0:06:19 > 0:06:23- The clubs had decided - which game they'd play.
0:06:23 > 0:06:27- Rugby caught on first - in many places in South Wales.
0:06:28 > 0:06:32- By the 1890s, - football gained popularity here.
0:06:34 > 0:06:38- What turned the tide - in favour of rugby...
0:06:38 > 0:06:42- ..and made it synonymous - with Wales in the eyes of the world?
0:06:43 > 0:06:49- Some believe it happened - one fateful day in 1905.
0:06:50 > 0:06:53- Wales played the All Blacks.
0:06:58 > 0:07:01- It was New Zealand's - first tour of Britain.
0:07:01 > 0:07:04- It was rumoured - that they were a good team.
0:07:04 > 0:07:09- No-one appreciated quite how good. - They were incredible.
0:07:09 > 0:07:11- They hadn't lost once.
0:07:12 > 0:07:15- Wales had a good team.
0:07:15 > 0:07:20- No-one gave them a chance - against the New Zealand giants.
0:07:20 > 0:07:25- They played in Cardiff - and Wales won 3-0.
0:07:26 > 0:07:30- They became overnight stars - and national heroes.
0:07:30 > 0:07:35- New Zealand did the haka before - the game, as they still do today.
0:07:36 > 0:07:39- Wales responded by singing - the national anthem.
0:07:40 > 0:07:42- Everybody joined in the singing.
0:07:42 > 0:07:46- It was the first time - the anthem was sung.
0:07:46 > 0:07:50- Never before had any country - sang the anthem before a game.
0:07:50 > 0:07:52- All the elements came together.
0:07:53 > 0:07:58- Perhaps that's why Wales started - to think it was our national game.
0:08:01 > 0:08:05- These days, football - is described as a religion.
0:08:06 > 0:08:09- It has captured - people's imagination...
0:08:09 > 0:08:12- ..and plays - a central role in their lives.
0:08:12 > 0:08:14- But it's nothing new.
0:08:15 > 0:08:19- It troubled Welsh nonconformists - in the 19th century.
0:08:20 > 0:08:25- Football threatened to lead Welsh - boys from the path of righteousness.
0:08:27 > 0:08:30- In some places, - especially England...
0:08:31 > 0:08:36- ..churches saw football as a means - to lure young men into the fold.
0:08:37 > 0:08:40- Everton was established - by Methodists...
0:08:40 > 0:08:44- ..Manchester City and Southampton - by the Church...
0:08:44 > 0:08:47- ..and Aston Villa by Wesleyans.
0:08:48 > 0:08:52- The Welsh chapels - took a very different approach.
0:08:53 > 0:08:57- "Kicking a football - on the Sabbath in Llanegryn!"
0:08:59 > 0:09:01- "Worshipping football."
0:09:03 > 0:09:08- "I find it hard to fathom - a game as barbaric as football."
0:09:09 > 0:09:14- The game grew in popularity in - the second half of the 19th century.
0:09:14 > 0:09:19- Angry letters appeared - in the press complaining about...
0:09:20 > 0:09:24- .."The sinful and ancient custom - of kicking a football."
0:09:24 > 0:09:28- They worried about - the lads' spiritual wellbeing.
0:09:29 > 0:09:32- Their minds were filled - by something other than God.
0:09:33 > 0:09:37- The pulpit was the ideal platform - to spread the word.
0:09:37 > 0:09:40- It's dangerous to put - too much emphasis...
0:09:41 > 0:09:44- ..on the chapels' negative impact - on football.
0:09:45 > 0:09:50- But the fire and brimstone preachers - had a great deal of influence.
0:09:51 > 0:09:57- It's worth noting that the four - main nonconformist denominations...
0:09:57 > 0:10:01- ..had 350,000 members - in Wales in 1881.
0:10:02 > 0:10:05- That shows how far they reached.
0:10:08 > 0:10:13- Upholding the Sabbath was - very important to nonconformists.
0:10:14 > 0:10:19- The chapels' influence - was reflected in the statute books.
0:10:19 > 0:10:21- In 1863...
0:10:21 > 0:10:26- ..when children played football - on this Caernarfon street...
0:10:26 > 0:10:28- ..on Sunday, no less...
0:10:28 > 0:10:31- ..the police - were called to put a stop to it.
0:10:33 > 0:10:37- After a local law - was passed in Ruthin, in 1855...
0:10:37 > 0:10:41- ..you could be arrested - for playing football.
0:10:41 > 0:10:45- The law compared the game - to unsavoury activities...
0:10:45 > 0:10:48- ..such as - drunkenness, cleaning toilets...
0:10:49 > 0:10:51- ..and exposing yourself.
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0:11:02 > 0:11:05- Many people remember - the end of the 1950s...
0:11:05 > 0:11:08- ..as a golden age - for Welsh football.
0:11:09 > 0:11:13- Wales reached the World Cup finals - for the first time.
0:11:14 > 0:11:18- Oddly, at the same time, - there was a concerted effort...
0:11:18 > 0:11:22- ..to ban football - in our grammar schools.
0:11:24 > 0:11:29- In 1957, two young men - protested against this.
0:11:30 > 0:11:32- You still have it!
0:11:32 > 0:11:34- This is the school in Llandysul.
0:11:34 > 0:11:36- How are you?
0:11:36 > 0:11:37- How are you?- - Fine, thanks.
0:11:37 > 0:11:40- I've come to meet - the two old rebels.
0:11:44 > 0:11:45- Peter, Aled.
0:11:45 > 0:11:47- You have an interesting story.
0:11:47 > 0:11:50- This was football country.
0:11:50 > 0:11:54- The school played football - since it was founded.
0:11:55 > 0:11:59- But sadly for us, - when we were in the Sixth Form...
0:12:00 > 0:12:02- ..a new head teacher arrived.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06- When school began in September...
0:12:06 > 0:12:09- ..there were - no football posts anywhere.
0:12:09 > 0:12:10- There were only rugby posts!
0:12:10 > 0:12:12- There were only rugby posts!- - They'd removed the goals.
0:12:13 > 0:12:15- What on earth was this odd game?
0:12:15 > 0:12:18- It happened overnight.
0:12:19 > 0:12:21- Rugby was compulsory.
0:12:21 > 0:12:23- Football, and the round ball...
0:12:23 > 0:12:27- ..weren't allowed - anywhere near the school.
0:12:27 > 0:12:30- You decided - to take us out on strike.
0:12:31 > 0:12:35- You contacted the local press - to tell them about the strike.
0:12:35 > 0:12:40- You and I went to phone - Swansea's Evening Post.
0:12:41 > 0:12:44- It had a pro-football bias.
0:12:45 > 0:12:50- We phoned the local papers - in Carmarthen and Cardigan.
0:12:51 > 0:12:53- There was a lot of publicity.
0:12:54 > 0:12:59- We also deliberately lost - the first matches.
0:13:00 > 0:13:02- I hadn't meant to mention that!
0:13:03 > 0:13:05- There was a hill by the field.
0:13:06 > 0:13:11- If the wingers got the ball, - they kicked it into the pine trees.
0:13:11 > 0:13:15- The whole afternoon was spent - looking for the ball.
0:13:15 > 0:13:16- LAUGHTER
0:13:18 > 0:13:21- They also tried to stop us...
0:13:21 > 0:13:25- ..from playing - for our village clubs.
0:13:25 > 0:13:27- We played rugby in the morning.
0:13:27 > 0:13:31- We were banned from - playing for our football clubs.
0:13:31 > 0:13:33- Even in your spare time.
0:13:33 > 0:13:35- We took no notice of that.
0:13:36 > 0:13:40- Just think about it, boys like us - had to give all that up for rugby.
0:13:41 > 0:13:44- It would have been fine, - if we played both games.
0:13:45 > 0:13:49- We could have talked about it - and learnt both games.
0:13:49 > 0:13:51- That's what education should be.
0:13:52 > 0:13:54- Yes, rather than - having it forced on you.
0:13:55 > 0:13:57- In time, in the 1980s...
0:13:57 > 0:14:01- ..I became Chair of the Welsh - Schools' Football Association.
0:14:02 > 0:14:03- I found it sad...
0:14:03 > 0:14:08- ..to see that attitude - still existing in our schools.
0:14:08 > 0:14:10- Now, of course, it has all changed.
0:14:11 > 0:14:13- Football in Wales - has a new structure.
0:14:14 > 0:14:19- There are leagues in every county, - for all age groups...
0:14:19 > 0:14:22- ..and academies linked to clubs.
0:14:22 > 0:14:26- The structure of football - has strengthened...
0:14:26 > 0:14:28- ..after moving out of the schools.
0:14:28 > 0:14:31- We faced a lot of anger back then.
0:14:35 > 0:14:40- Ever since the Scarlets rugby team - beat the All Blacks in 1972...
0:14:41 > 0:14:45- ..people have thought - of Llanelli as a rugby town.
0:14:47 > 0:14:52- But there has been a football - club here too, since 1892.
0:14:52 > 0:14:57- I've come to the club - to see how the two games coexist.
0:14:59 > 0:15:02- The team played at five grounds...
0:15:02 > 0:15:06- ..before settling here at - Stebonheath Park Stadium, in 1922.
0:15:07 > 0:15:11- But when European football - came to Llanelli in 2006...
0:15:11 > 0:15:14- ..UEFA required all-seater stadiums.
0:15:14 > 0:15:17- So they had to ask - the rugby club a favour.
0:15:17 > 0:15:20- Maybe the relationship - wasn't all bad after all.
0:15:22 > 0:15:23- Hi.
0:15:23 > 0:15:24- Two pounds, please.
0:15:24 > 0:15:25- Two pounds, please.- - Thanks. Cheers.
0:15:27 > 0:15:30- Today is the first game - of the new season.
0:15:30 > 0:15:35- I talked to Jonathan Nicklin, one - of the club's biggest supporters.
0:15:35 > 0:15:38- Well done, boys!
0:15:39 > 0:15:42- Does football suffer - in a town like Llanelli?
0:15:44 > 0:15:48- Football has always been - the town's number one sport.
0:15:48 > 0:15:51- But for the media, - it's only the Scarlets.
0:15:52 > 0:15:55- Six, seven or eight - thousand people watch them.
0:15:55 > 0:15:59- As you see, - there are only about 200 here.
0:16:00 > 0:16:01- In the 1930s and 1940s...
0:16:02 > 0:16:05- ..we had crowds of thousands.
0:16:05 > 0:16:07- It just dwindled away.
0:16:07 > 0:16:11- But if you go to parks - on Saturday and Sunday...
0:16:12 > 0:16:16- ..you can see how - many people play football.
0:16:17 > 0:16:19- But for other people...
0:16:19 > 0:16:21- ..rugby is everything.
0:16:22 > 0:16:26- The media regard rugby - as the number one sport.
0:16:26 > 0:16:28- But it isn't.
0:16:28 > 0:16:29- Do they hype it?
0:16:30 > 0:16:31- Yes.
0:16:31 > 0:16:35- It's up to us to write a report - for our local paper...
0:16:36 > 0:16:40- ..but there are five or six pages - in it, full of rugby.
0:16:41 > 0:16:44- The council doesn't help either.
0:16:45 > 0:16:47- Go on!
0:16:48 > 0:16:50- Yes!
0:16:53 > 0:16:54- Good.
0:16:54 > 0:17:00- The club owner wanted to put signs - up for Stebonheath Park in town.
0:17:01 > 0:17:07- The council gave us - a quote of 500 to 600 for a sign.
0:17:08 > 0:17:10- But the Scarlets...
0:17:11 > 0:17:13- ..got 30,000...
0:17:14 > 0:17:18- ..for signs to go - to Parc Y Scarlets.
0:17:19 > 0:17:21- We want a level playing field.
0:17:22 > 0:17:24- We don't have it.
0:17:24 > 0:17:27- There's a new owner - here now, isn't there?
0:17:27 > 0:17:29- Yes, Mr Craddock has come in.
0:17:29 > 0:17:32- He's a local businessman.
0:17:32 > 0:17:36- He has a real affection - for the club.
0:17:36 > 0:17:38- Locals play here.
0:17:39 > 0:17:43- They don't come down - from Llanidloes or Cardiff any more.
0:17:43 > 0:17:45- They all come from town...
0:17:46 > 0:17:48- ..or Swansea and Neath.
0:17:48 > 0:17:49- That's good to see.
0:17:49 > 0:17:50- That's good to see.- - Yes.
0:17:52 > 0:17:54- Our aim now is to go up.
0:17:54 > 0:17:56- Back to where you should be.
0:17:57 > 0:17:58- To the Welsh Premier.
0:17:58 > 0:17:59- To the Welsh Premier.- - Yes.
0:17:59 > 0:18:03- As you can see, - the facilities are fantastic.
0:18:03 > 0:18:04- They are.
0:18:04 > 0:18:06- It's important to everyone.
0:18:07 > 0:18:08- It's my life.
0:18:08 > 0:18:12- I don't support - Man United or Liverpool.
0:18:12 > 0:18:14- This is my club.
0:18:14 > 0:18:18- I really hope you'll be back - in the Welsh Prem soon.
0:18:18 > 0:18:19- That's where you belong.
0:18:19 > 0:18:20- That's where you belong.- - Thank you.
0:18:21 > 0:18:26- Can we have a pint in that fine - clubhouse to celebrate the victory?
0:18:27 > 0:18:27- Definitely.
0:18:27 > 0:18:28- Definitely.- - Champion!
0:18:29 > 0:18:30- BACKGROUND CHAT
0:18:32 > 0:18:37- If Llanelli AFC's fans feel unhappy - standing in the Scarlets' shadow...
0:18:38 > 0:18:42- ..think how much women's football - in Wales has suffered...
0:18:42 > 0:18:45- ..in the shadow of the men's game.
0:18:46 > 0:18:51- Women's football first - came to Wales in the 1890s.
0:18:51 > 0:18:56- By the Great War, there were several - women's clubs in South Wales.
0:18:57 > 0:19:01- Some women's matches - drew thousands of spectators.
0:19:02 > 0:19:06- But in 1935, the FAW turned - against the women's game.
0:19:07 > 0:19:11- They were banned - from playing in Welsh grounds...
0:19:11 > 0:19:14- ..even in charity fundraisers.
0:19:14 > 0:19:19- This hindered the growth of the game - in Wales in the following years.
0:19:21 > 0:19:25- I've come to Cardiff City Stadium - to meet Laura McAllister.
0:19:26 > 0:19:29- Laura played for - the city's women's team for years.
0:19:29 > 0:19:32- In 1994, she was one - of the first women...
0:19:33 > 0:19:36- ..to play officially - for her country.
0:19:37 > 0:19:40- Laura, you won 24 caps for Wales. - Congratulations.
0:19:40 > 0:19:45- Growing up in Bridgend, how often - did you get to play football?
0:19:45 > 0:19:48- It was very different in my time.
0:19:49 > 0:19:53- Women didn't have - many opportunities...
0:19:53 > 0:19:57- ..to take part in sports - like football or rugby.
0:19:57 > 0:20:02- I just played with friends, - the boys usually.
0:20:05 > 0:20:07- I could play quite well.
0:20:08 > 0:20:13- There was no problem, really, - for me to play with the boys...
0:20:13 > 0:20:16- ..on the streets or in school.
0:20:17 > 0:20:22- Laura didn't play for a team until - she went to college in London...
0:20:22 > 0:20:25- ..and joined the Millwall Lionesses.
0:20:25 > 0:20:28- Back in Wales, - she joined Cardiff City FC.
0:20:29 > 0:20:33- In 1992, with two of her co-players, - she went to see Alun Evans...
0:20:34 > 0:20:37- ..FAW President at the time.
0:20:37 > 0:20:42- They asked the Association to - establish a women's national team.
0:20:42 > 0:20:44- Alun was very supportive.
0:20:45 > 0:20:51- I don't think many Association - council members were as supportive.
0:20:51 > 0:20:55- They asked, - "Why give money to women?"
0:20:55 > 0:21:00- On the other hand, - the FAW treated the women's team...
0:21:00 > 0:21:04- ..the same as the men, - from the start...
0:21:04 > 0:21:06- ..which was excellent.
0:21:07 > 0:21:11- The work done by the Association - since founding the team...
0:21:11 > 0:21:15- ..has been pioneering, - in the British context.
0:21:15 > 0:21:21- We've developed the game from - grassroots to international level.
0:21:21 > 0:21:25- Now, there's a pathway for women, - from community games...
0:21:26 > 0:21:32- ..to regional teams, then national - teams under 14 and under 16...
0:21:33 > 0:21:35- ..then the senior squad.
0:21:36 > 0:21:41- Wales will be playing Austria - in a few days' time.
0:21:41 > 0:21:46- I noticed that only three girls - play for Welsh clubs...
0:21:46 > 0:21:48- ..all in Cardiff, as it happens.
0:21:49 > 0:21:50- Will that change?
0:21:50 > 0:21:54- I'm thinking of clubs - like Cardiff, Swansea or Cwmbran.
0:21:54 > 0:21:58- Are other clubs - establishing women's teams?
0:21:58 > 0:22:00- Many clubs are now...
0:22:00 > 0:22:05- ..especially after launching - the Women's Welsh Premier League.
0:22:05 > 0:22:07- But at the moment...
0:22:07 > 0:22:12- ..the club standard is much - higher in England than Wales.
0:22:13 > 0:22:16- The best players - go over the bridge...
0:22:16 > 0:22:21- ..to play for teams - like Bristol and Manchester City.
0:22:22 > 0:22:27- Players like Tash Harding and Jess - Fishlock have gone to the USA.
0:22:29 > 0:22:33- But I think the league - is developing.
0:22:34 > 0:22:40- When the league is stronger, I hope - many more players stay in Wales.
0:22:45 > 0:22:47- Welsh football is prospering now.
0:22:47 > 0:22:51- It seems to have overcome - the historical problems.
0:22:52 > 0:22:54- The pulpit has embraced football.
0:22:54 > 0:22:58- Women's teams get - the support they deserve.
0:22:59 > 0:23:03- Even the media have started - to wake up to the fact...
0:23:03 > 0:23:07- ..that football has won - its place in the national psyche.
0:23:07 > 0:23:11- Rugby, too, plays an important - part in our communities.
0:23:11 > 0:23:16- Despite the old differences, - there is plenty of collaboration...
0:23:16 > 0:23:20- ..and plenty of people - who support both games.
0:23:20 > 0:23:21- As Gary Speed said...
0:23:22 > 0:23:23- "..I want Wales to win...
0:23:24 > 0:23:26- "..at football, - rugby or tiddlywinks."
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