Catrin Griffiths

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0:00:02 > 0:00:03- I'm James Lusted.

0:00:04 > 0:00:08- I'm 26 and I have diastrophic - dysplasia, a rare form of dwarfism.

0:00:08 > 0:00:12- I live at home - with my parents and brother Phil.

0:00:12 > 0:00:14- Phil has the same condition.

0:00:15 > 0:00:18- I don't allow my disability - to hold me back.

0:00:18 > 0:00:20- In fact, I hate the word disabled.

0:00:20 > 0:00:25- In this series, I'll travel through - Wales to meet disabled people...

0:00:25 > 0:00:28- ..to experience life - through their eyes.

0:00:35 > 0:00:39- I'm used to the journey - from North Wales to Cardiff now.

0:00:39 > 0:00:42- My girlfriend - is at university there.

0:00:42 > 0:00:47- But today, I'm meeting - Catrin Griffiths, not Chloe.

0:00:47 > 0:00:50- I'm looking forward to meeting her.

0:01:08 > 0:01:11- Catrin has spina bifida.

0:01:12 > 0:01:15- She goes regularly - to the gym to keep fit.

0:01:17 > 0:01:22- I've been coming to this gym - for three or four months.

0:01:22 > 0:01:25- I try to attend twice a week.

0:01:27 > 0:01:32- I feel better about myself - and more alert afterwards.

0:01:32 > 0:01:35- It's important - with my disability too.

0:01:35 > 0:01:39- My legs don't have the same strength - as other people's legs.

0:01:40 > 0:01:42- I try to work on them.

0:01:43 > 0:01:46- It aids my walking from day to day.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48- Stairs aren't such a problem.

0:01:49 > 0:01:51- It definitely makes a difference.

0:01:54 > 0:01:56- That's enough for one day!

0:01:56 > 0:01:59- I'm going for a shower - if you don't mind.

0:02:00 > 0:02:04- While Catrin gets dressed, - I arrive in Cardiff.

0:02:05 > 0:02:11- I've been told to meet her - at Llandough Hospital, not at home.

0:02:12 > 0:02:15- We're in a hospital. - Neither of us is ill.

0:02:16 > 0:02:17- Why are we here?

0:02:17 > 0:02:18- Aha!

0:02:19 > 0:02:22- I volunteer with the hospital radio.

0:02:22 > 0:02:25- I've done it for over a year.

0:02:26 > 0:02:29- I present a two-hour show - every Monday evening.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31- That's why we're here.

0:02:31 > 0:02:32- Do you enjoy it?

0:02:32 > 0:02:34- Do you enjoy it?- - I love it. I love radio.

0:02:34 > 0:02:39- I've been doing it for a 18 months. - It's very enjoyable.

0:02:39 > 0:02:42- I hope listeners - benefit from it too.

0:02:42 > 0:02:45- If it does, it's a bonus.

0:02:50 > 0:02:52- OK, five seconds.

0:02:54 > 0:02:59- Welcome to Rookwood Sound. You're - listening to me, Catrin Griffiths.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02- I'll be here until 10 o'clock.

0:03:02 > 0:03:07- Plenty going on in the show tonight. - I'll let you know after this song.

0:03:07 > 0:03:11- This is Peaceful Easy Feeling - by the Eagles.

0:03:19 > 0:03:21- Spina bifida occurs...

0:03:22 > 0:03:26- ..when a baby's spine doesn't - form properly early in pregnancy.

0:03:27 > 0:03:31- The most common reason is lack of - folic acid in the mother's diet...

0:03:32 > 0:03:34- ..before or after conception.

0:03:34 > 0:03:39- Doctors advise women thinking - of having a baby to take folic acid.

0:03:40 > 0:03:44- The government considers including - it as an additive in food.

0:03:45 > 0:03:46- KNOCKS ON DOOR

0:03:46 > 0:03:48- Hello, Catrin, how are you?

0:03:48 > 0:03:49- Hello, Catrin, how are you?- - Hello. How are you?

0:03:49 > 0:03:51- Fine, thanks.

0:03:52 > 0:03:53- A cuppa?

0:03:53 > 0:03:54- A cuppa?- - Great. Thank you.

0:03:57 > 0:04:03- Your condition is called spina - bifida. What exactly does that mean?

0:04:03 > 0:04:07- I was born with a hole - on the lower part of my back.

0:04:09 > 0:04:14- I had surgery - when I was about a week old...

0:04:15 > 0:04:17- ..to close the hole.

0:04:18 > 0:04:22- Spina bifida can be - on different levels.

0:04:23 > 0:04:26- Sometimes, the hole - can be higher up the back.

0:04:26 > 0:04:29- It can affect mobility.

0:04:30 > 0:04:32- I'm fairly mobile with crutches.

0:04:34 > 0:04:37- I don't have any balance at all.

0:04:37 > 0:04:40- I can't stand - without leaning on something.

0:04:40 > 0:04:45- I have no feeling in my feet - or in part of my lower leg.

0:04:47 > 0:04:53- There is evidence that folic acid - prevents spina bifida.

0:04:53 > 0:04:58- The government wants it - as an additive in bread.

0:04:59 > 0:05:01- What is your opinion?

0:05:02 > 0:05:05- From my own experience...

0:05:05 > 0:05:07- ..it's not all that clear-cut.

0:05:08 > 0:05:13- For example, if Mam had taken - folic acid before having me...

0:05:15 > 0:05:20- ..it isn't guaranteed - that I wouldn't have spina bifida.

0:05:20 > 0:05:23- I don't think it's 100% effective.

0:05:24 > 0:05:25- Nevertheless...

0:05:25 > 0:05:29- ..as regards the idea - of having an additive in bread...

0:05:29 > 0:05:34- ..apart from the fact people might - think it's a nanny state policy...

0:05:34 > 0:05:36- ..I don't see any problem.

0:05:37 > 0:05:40- If it helps prevent spina bifida...

0:05:40 > 0:05:43- ..and the problems it can cause...

0:05:43 > 0:05:45- ..there's no harm in it.

0:05:47 > 0:05:51- My parents' dream - was to bring me up normally.

0:05:51 > 0:05:54- Did your parents - have a similar dream?

0:05:54 > 0:05:56- Definitely.

0:05:56 > 0:06:00- I was never allowed to make - an excuse of my disability.

0:06:00 > 0:06:05- I couldn't get out of doing chores - such as the washing up!

0:06:05 > 0:06:10- I'm extremely independent too - and always have been.

0:06:10 > 0:06:14- I told them once - I wanted to play rugby.

0:06:14 > 0:06:18- There was a sports - tournament in the village.

0:06:18 > 0:06:20- I said, "I won't go in the scrum.

0:06:20 > 0:06:24- "I'll stay outside, - in case they need someone."

0:06:24 > 0:06:29- They said, "We know you. You'll - probably be first in the scrum.

0:06:29 > 0:06:34- "We won't let you do it. We never - say no, but it's no this time."

0:06:34 > 0:06:40- I think that's the only time they - said no because of my disability.

0:06:41 > 0:06:44- But Catrin was a determined girl.

0:06:44 > 0:06:47- Her condition - didn't hold her back...

0:06:47 > 0:06:51- ..when she had to defend - her brother in school.

0:06:52 > 0:06:54- When Barry started primary school...

0:06:54 > 0:06:59- ..someone must have been nasty - to him during the first few weeks.

0:07:00 > 0:07:03- Barry was upset. - He was only about five years old.

0:07:04 > 0:07:05- I heard about it.

0:07:05 > 0:07:10- I looked for those children - and threatened them with my sticks!

0:07:10 > 0:07:12- I was only seven or eight.

0:07:13 > 0:07:17- It's really funny. - Mam thought it was hilarious.

0:07:17 > 0:07:21- It's really funny looking back - as he's a professional wrestler!

0:07:22 > 0:07:25- He lives in America and he's huge.

0:07:27 > 0:07:33- Catrin, like me, has an adventurous - spirit and likes to travel.

0:07:33 > 0:07:36- In 2005, she travelled - around Canada on her own.

0:07:37 > 0:07:41- It was the best - experience I've ever had.

0:07:41 > 0:07:46- It changed my life - and my perspective on life.

0:07:46 > 0:07:50- There isn't anyone to whom you can - complain when you travel alone.

0:07:51 > 0:07:53- You just have to get on with it.

0:07:54 > 0:07:56- It changed me in that respect.

0:07:57 > 0:07:59- I had a similar experience.

0:07:59 > 0:08:04- I went to Sydney in Australia - about three years ago.

0:08:06 > 0:08:08- When I went to the airport...

0:08:08 > 0:08:10- ..my bags were bigger than me!

0:08:11 > 0:08:16- People looked and wondered - how I'd manage with them.

0:08:16 > 0:08:17- But I did it.

0:08:18 > 0:08:22- Yes, I surprised myself - at how much I could walk...

0:08:23 > 0:08:25- ..to get around and go sightseeing.

0:08:25 > 0:08:30- When I returned home, I was less - bothered by what people thought.

0:08:30 > 0:08:34- I spent three months in Canada. - That was an achievement.

0:08:36 > 0:08:39- Independence is - very important to Catrin.

0:08:39 > 0:08:43- She moved to Cardiff - to live on her own.

0:08:43 > 0:08:46- She has started a relationship.

0:08:46 > 0:08:51- She wants new clothes to go - on a date with her boyfriend, Dan.

0:08:51 > 0:08:54- So I'm going shopping with her.

0:08:54 > 0:08:59- I have trouble finding shorts. - They're usually too long.

0:09:00 > 0:09:04- I have trouble finding - ones that fit well.

0:09:04 > 0:09:06- I'm the same with trousers.

0:09:07 > 0:09:09- I don't know about you.

0:09:09 > 0:09:11- I know where to shop now.

0:09:12 > 0:09:14- I'm in my 30s.

0:09:14 > 0:09:17- I know where to shop - and the length I want.

0:09:18 > 0:09:20- I've started to look online...

0:09:20 > 0:09:24- ..if I want clothes - or trousers of a certain length.

0:09:24 > 0:09:26- They can be more expensive.

0:09:27 > 0:09:29- Your grandmother - does your alterations.

0:09:30 > 0:09:31- Yes, Nain alters clothes for me.

0:09:31 > 0:09:32- Yes, Nain alters clothes for me.- - She's good to you!

0:09:32 > 0:09:34- Yes, I'm very grateful.

0:09:34 > 0:09:36- Nain does a very good job!

0:09:37 > 0:09:41- Like many men, there's only - so much shopping I can bear.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44- So we went home to put our feet up.

0:09:44 > 0:09:47- We had a good day, - but we didn't buy anything.

0:09:47 > 0:09:51- It's not like me at all, - as Mam would tell you!

0:09:53 > 0:09:55- I have problems with shoes.

0:09:55 > 0:09:57- Do you have that problem?

0:09:57 > 0:10:01- Yes, mine are made to measure, - like yours, I guess.

0:10:02 > 0:10:05- I had pink shoes this time.

0:10:05 > 0:10:07- There's a choice of sorts.

0:10:08 > 0:10:13- In the past, I've had - to ask many times for shoes.

0:10:15 > 0:10:19- I wear the same shoes every day.

0:10:19 > 0:10:22- So I go wear them out quickly.

0:10:23 > 0:10:25- There's a hole in this shoe.

0:10:26 > 0:10:28- These aren't old.

0:10:28 > 0:10:30- They're less than six months old.

0:10:31 > 0:10:32- Wow.

0:10:32 > 0:10:33- I order more.

0:10:34 > 0:10:39- But I'm told I can't have more - because I've had two or three pairs.

0:10:40 > 0:10:44- I know they're only shoes - and it isn't the end of the world.

0:10:45 > 0:10:47- But it's part - of your independence...

0:10:48 > 0:10:51- ..to be able to go out - without worrying about shoes.

0:10:52 > 0:10:57- As well as problems with shoes, - I have trouble with my feet.

0:10:57 > 0:10:59- They can be painful.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02- Do you have that problem?

0:11:03 > 0:11:05- I have no feeling in my feet...

0:11:05 > 0:11:08- ..below the ankle.

0:11:10 > 0:11:15- I have to be very careful if I have - blisters or pressure sores.

0:11:15 > 0:11:17- That has happened.

0:11:17 > 0:11:21- Within a week, - I was in hospital having treatment.

0:11:21 > 0:11:24- I had to stay off - my feet for four months.

0:11:24 > 0:11:27- It was serious. I was really ill.

0:11:28 > 0:11:32- People don't realize - how difficult it is...

0:11:32 > 0:11:36- ..to find - comfortable shoes that fit...

0:11:36 > 0:11:41- ..that are good for your feet - and don't cause sores.

0:11:41 > 0:11:44- We're very grateful - that we can walk.

0:11:45 > 0:11:46- Yes, definitely.

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0:11:52 > 0:11:55- My condition affects my feet.

0:11:55 > 0:11:59- It can cause problems - because of the way I walk.

0:11:59 > 0:12:04- Unlike Catrin, I can't look after - my feet because I can't bend down.

0:12:05 > 0:12:09- So every now and then, Tracey - the podiatrist comes to treat them.

0:12:10 > 0:12:11- Hi, Tracey, are you alright?

0:12:11 > 0:12:12- Hi, Tracey, are you alright?- - Hi, how are you?

0:12:12 > 0:12:13- Fine. How are you?

0:12:16 > 0:12:17- Thanks.

0:12:17 > 0:12:21- Mam treated my feet - before I found Tracey.

0:12:22 > 0:12:27- I was getting older and didn't - want Mam fiddling with my feet.

0:12:28 > 0:12:30- I'll just get everything out.

0:12:30 > 0:12:33- We'll have a look at your tootsies.

0:12:33 > 0:12:35- My feet are totally different.

0:12:36 > 0:12:38- Sometimes, they're very sore.

0:12:38 > 0:12:40- But after a rest, they're fine.

0:12:42 > 0:12:46- I walk in a totally different - way from everyone else too...

0:12:46 > 0:12:49- ..sometimes on the side of my foot.

0:12:50 > 0:12:56- The skin on the side of my foot - can get hard and rather painful.

0:12:58 > 0:13:01- Tracey makes sure - everything is alright.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04- She clears away any sores...

0:13:04 > 0:13:08- ..to make sure I can - walk without pain...

0:13:08 > 0:13:11- ..and I can carry on - like everyone else.

0:13:12 > 0:13:14- Lovely little feet.

0:13:14 > 0:13:16- Right, hobbit feet!

0:13:16 > 0:13:18- Nothing wrong with that!

0:13:19 > 0:13:22- I've been seeing James - for about two years.

0:13:22 > 0:13:26- He's got feet that cause problems - because of the joint structure.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30- It's called talipes or club foot.

0:13:30 > 0:13:35- It's really important that James - has his feet looked after regularly.

0:13:35 > 0:13:37- He can't do them himself.

0:13:37 > 0:13:41- The hard skin and callus - might break down...

0:13:41 > 0:13:43- ..and cause a bit of ulceration.

0:13:44 > 0:13:48- The pain would be the biggest - thing he'd have to deal with.

0:13:49 > 0:13:52- If he didn't have - those regular treatments...

0:13:52 > 0:13:56- ..it could be quite - detrimental to James's health.

0:13:56 > 0:14:01- My feet feel much better - after Tracey's treatment.

0:14:01 > 0:14:04- I'm ready to meet - Catrin's parents...

0:14:04 > 0:14:08- ..to ask how her condition - affected the family.

0:14:12 > 0:14:14- Hello, James, how are you?

0:14:14 > 0:14:15- Come in.

0:14:15 > 0:14:16- Come in.- - Thank you.

0:14:18 > 0:14:23- I had no idea - until the night she was born.

0:14:23 > 0:14:26- The doctor came back and said...

0:14:27 > 0:14:32- ..that they were very sorry they - hadn't realized there was a problem.

0:14:33 > 0:14:38- They were going to assess her to see - if she should go to Alder Hey.

0:14:39 > 0:14:41- I wasn't sure how to take it.

0:14:42 > 0:14:44- I wasn't upset at the time.

0:14:46 > 0:14:49- All I knew about the condition...

0:14:49 > 0:14:55- ..was that someone from Porthmadog - had a child with spina bifida.

0:14:55 > 0:15:00- Sadly, the child had died - the previous year.

0:15:01 > 0:15:05- That was all I knew - about the condition.

0:15:06 > 0:15:08- The doctor came to the room.

0:15:10 > 0:15:14- He said, "I think it's now - time to move her to Alder Hey.

0:15:14 > 0:15:16- "Will you be going with her?"

0:15:17 > 0:15:20- I remember thinking, - "My god, what do I do now?"

0:15:21 > 0:15:25- Should I go with my child - or stay with my wife?

0:15:25 > 0:15:28- I decided to stay with my wife...

0:15:28 > 0:15:30- ..and follow the next day.

0:15:31 > 0:15:35- I'm still not sure - if I made the right decision.

0:15:36 > 0:15:38- But that's what happened.

0:15:39 > 0:15:42- Dr Morris arrived and asked...

0:15:43 > 0:15:48- ..if we wanted to christen Catrin - before she went to Alder Hey.

0:15:48 > 0:15:50- She had to leave immediately.

0:15:50 > 0:15:53- I said I'd like her - to be christened.

0:15:53 > 0:15:58- The only people present were - Dr Morris, me and one of the nurses.

0:15:58 > 0:16:02- She was christened - before she left for Alder Hey.

0:16:04 > 0:16:07- I was moved to a ward on my own.

0:16:07 > 0:16:11- Of course, it was full - of mothers with their babies.

0:16:12 > 0:16:14- I heard them cry.

0:16:14 > 0:16:17- I found that rather difficult.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19- I wasn't sure how to deal with it.

0:16:21 > 0:16:25- I passed one of the women - on the way to the toilet.

0:16:26 > 0:16:29- She asked, "What did you have?"

0:16:29 > 0:16:33- Talking to her was one - of the hardest things I had to do.

0:16:33 > 0:16:36- I had to say that Catrin - had spina bifida...

0:16:37 > 0:16:41- ..and she'd been taken - to Alder Hey Hospital that night.

0:16:42 > 0:16:47- After six weeks in hospital and - successful surgery on her back...

0:16:47 > 0:16:50- ..Catrin went home - for the first time.

0:16:50 > 0:16:54- Malcolm and I went - to fetch her in the car.

0:16:54 > 0:16:56- We were very happy of course.

0:16:57 > 0:17:01- I remember looking at her in the cot - in the car and thinking...

0:17:01 > 0:17:06- "..I'm going to bring her up - as normally as I can.

0:17:08 > 0:17:10- "I want her to have a full life."

0:17:11 > 0:17:14- I suppose - it was a promise to myself.

0:17:16 > 0:17:18- What are your hopes for Catrin?

0:17:20 > 0:17:23- It's obvious - she leads a full life now.

0:17:25 > 0:17:28- She has a much better - social life than me!

0:17:30 > 0:17:32- I'd love to see her settle down.

0:17:33 > 0:17:36- We're happy that - she's going out with Daniel.

0:17:36 > 0:17:42- They obviously - enjoy each other's company.

0:17:43 > 0:17:45- That's all I want for her, really.

0:17:46 > 0:17:50- Almost a year ago, - Catrin met Daniel on the Internet.

0:17:50 > 0:17:54- Many people find partners - in this way nowadays...

0:17:54 > 0:17:56- ..because they lead busy lives.

0:17:57 > 0:18:00- I started online dating - about four years ago.

0:18:01 > 0:18:05- It wasn't a great experience. - There wasn't much choice.

0:18:06 > 0:18:08- So I gave up.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11- Then about 18 months ago...

0:18:12 > 0:18:16- ..I thought - it might be a good way...

0:18:16 > 0:18:19- ..just to meet different people.

0:18:20 > 0:18:22- I put a full profile...

0:18:22 > 0:18:28- ..with one line - saying I had a disability.

0:18:28 > 0:18:31- Not everyone reads the full profile.

0:18:32 > 0:18:36- After chatting to someone - for a few weeks...

0:18:36 > 0:18:40- ..I thought I should come clean...

0:18:40 > 0:18:43- ..and make sure they were aware.

0:18:44 > 0:18:46- It was interesting.

0:18:46 > 0:18:48- Some people were fine about it.

0:18:48 > 0:18:52- Other people said, - "That's not what I'm looking for."

0:18:52 > 0:18:54- No-one was unpleasant.

0:18:54 > 0:18:58- It sometimes made you think, - "Oh! OK, fine."

0:18:58 > 0:19:02- We could have been chatting - for a week or more.

0:19:02 > 0:19:05- Then they changed their mind...

0:19:05 > 0:19:09- ..and decided - they didn't want to carry on.

0:19:09 > 0:19:13- I mentioned the disability - to Dan quite early.

0:19:13 > 0:19:16- He was totally blase about it...

0:19:17 > 0:19:22- ..saying, "That doesn't matter, - it won't make a difference at all."

0:19:22 > 0:19:28- We obviously got on well and could - talk about anything by that time.

0:19:33 > 0:19:37- I asked, "Why don't you - ask me out on one date?

0:19:38 > 0:19:41- "If it doesn't work, - it doesn't work.

0:19:41 > 0:19:44- "We don't have anything to lose."

0:19:45 > 0:19:48- She made me laugh. She's very funny.

0:19:48 > 0:19:51- We get on very well. - We have a lot in common.

0:19:51 > 0:19:55- I saw on her profile she was - disabled. It didn't bother me.

0:19:56 > 0:20:00- It's not something that - I really thought about at the time.

0:20:00 > 0:20:01- When we met up...

0:20:01 > 0:20:06- ..obviously I noticed she was - on crutches and stuff like that.

0:20:06 > 0:20:11- But it never really came up - as a problem or anything like that.

0:20:11 > 0:20:15- When we first met, she told me - she wanted to go abseiling.

0:20:16 > 0:20:18- So I arranged abseiling for us.

0:20:18 > 0:20:22- The disability certainly - didn't stop her doing that.

0:20:22 > 0:20:26- It never stops us doing anything - we want to do together.

0:20:27 > 0:20:31- I think we have a very bright future - together. We get on very well.

0:20:32 > 0:20:35- So things are going - very well at the moment.

0:20:35 > 0:20:37- I moved to Cardiff - to be with Catrin.

0:20:38 > 0:20:43- I'm looking forward to spending a - lot of time in the future with Cats.

0:20:46 > 0:20:52- Like Catrin, I've been very lucky - to meet someone special - Chloe.

0:20:53 > 0:20:55- We met about two years ago.

0:20:57 > 0:21:00- It was the day I carried - the Olympic flame.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03- Chloe came to support me.

0:21:03 > 0:21:06- We started to chat - and we got on well.

0:21:07 > 0:21:11- We've had all kinds - of response from people.

0:21:13 > 0:21:18- The only negative thing I've heard - from people about dating Jay is...

0:21:19 > 0:21:23- "..You're average height - dwarfs - are meant to go out with dwarfs.

0:21:24 > 0:21:25- "This isn't right."

0:21:26 > 0:21:31- Actually, Jay is no different - to any other average height person.

0:21:32 > 0:21:34- He's full of personality.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38- Honestly, nothing wrong - with it, in my eyes.

0:21:40 > 0:21:44- At times when I was a teenager, - I thought a lot...

0:21:46 > 0:21:51- ..about whether or not - I'd have a wife and a family.

0:21:53 > 0:21:58- I wasn't sure if I should be - with another dwarf or not.

0:21:59 > 0:22:01- Because of my faith, I prayed.

0:22:01 > 0:22:03- Who was there for me?

0:22:03 > 0:22:07- I discussed with my family - about who was out there...

0:22:07 > 0:22:11- ..and would they be - ready to be with me.

0:22:11 > 0:22:13- But I kept the faith.

0:22:14 > 0:22:16- Here she is. Chloe's here.

0:22:17 > 0:22:18- I found her.

0:22:18 > 0:22:21- It was completely unexpected.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24- But it's a real dream come true.

0:22:29 > 0:22:32- Meeting Catrin and her family - has been a pleasure.

0:22:32 > 0:22:34- Catrin is full of beans.

0:22:34 > 0:22:39- She doesn't think twice about doing - anything despite her disability.

0:22:40 > 0:22:43- The word disabled - isn't appropriate for her.

0:22:44 > 0:22:47- Her determined, positive attitude - is similar to mine.

0:22:48 > 0:22:51- She showed me that everyone - can realize their dreams...

0:22:52 > 0:22:54- ..with the right attitude.

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