0:00:02 > 0:00:05Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons.
0:00:05 > 0:00:08My mum went away and didn't come back.
0:00:08 > 0:00:10And when you do lose touch with your loved ones...
0:00:10 > 0:00:12I never saw Kathleen again.
0:00:12 > 0:00:15..finding them can take a lifetime.
0:00:15 > 0:00:17Wonder where he is, I wonder what he's doing.
0:00:17 > 0:00:19You don't really know where to begin.
0:00:19 > 0:00:25Especially when they could be anywhere, at home or abroad,
0:00:25 > 0:00:28and that's where the Family Finders come in.
0:00:28 > 0:00:31Hi, it's the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service.
0:00:31 > 0:00:33From international organisations...
0:00:33 > 0:00:37And there's never been a day when we have never had new enquiries.
0:00:37 > 0:00:40..to genealogy detective agencies...
0:00:40 > 0:00:42When is it you last had contact with him?
0:00:42 > 0:00:44..and dedicated one-man bands.
0:00:44 > 0:00:47I like to do the searches that other people can't get,
0:00:47 > 0:00:49cos it makes me feel good.
0:00:49 > 0:00:54They hunt through history to bring families back together again.
0:00:54 > 0:00:56You are my biological dad.
0:00:56 > 0:00:59In this series, we follow the work of the Family Finders.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02This case came from our Australian colleagues.
0:01:02 > 0:01:03Learning the tricks they use
0:01:03 > 0:01:06to track missing relatives through time...
0:01:06 > 0:01:07I'm 68 years of age,
0:01:07 > 0:01:10she's 75 years of age, and we're just starting off.
0:01:10 > 0:01:14..and meeting the people whose lives they change along the way.
0:01:14 > 0:01:16I said, "Well, this is your younger sister."
0:01:16 > 0:01:18It's a miracle.
0:01:18 > 0:01:21I was struck speechless and I couldn't stop crying.
0:01:21 > 0:01:23It's a proud moment for Dad.
0:01:23 > 0:01:25It was the start of finding a family.
0:01:33 > 0:01:36For anyone looking to find a long-lost family member, there's
0:01:36 > 0:01:40been an explosion of companies across the UK willing to help.
0:01:42 > 0:01:46One of the largest such companies is FinderMonkey, based in Leeds.
0:01:48 > 0:01:50When people come to us looking for somebody,
0:01:50 > 0:01:53we know it means a lot to them, so helping them
0:01:53 > 0:01:56find somebody they really want to get back in touch with...
0:01:56 > 0:01:58Erm, it's just fantastic.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01Earlier this year, they helped a young woman from the Midlands
0:02:01 > 0:02:03find her father, who she'd never met.
0:02:06 > 0:02:11This is Natalie Barker, who was born in Wolverhampton in 1989.
0:02:13 > 0:02:15She was raised by her mother, Penny, who,
0:02:15 > 0:02:19after a brief relationship with Natalie's biological father,
0:02:19 > 0:02:22lost contact with him after she fell pregnant.
0:02:22 > 0:02:25From a young age, you know that he's not quite there,
0:02:25 > 0:02:28and when people used to ask me, "What does your dad do?"
0:02:28 > 0:02:31it'd be sort of like... "I don't know."
0:02:31 > 0:02:35Even as a toddler, Natalie was acutely aware her father was absent.
0:02:36 > 0:02:39When people did pictures of their parents,
0:02:39 > 0:02:43from primary school age, I didn't get to do that.
0:02:43 > 0:02:45You know, I'd just sort of be... "Look, there's Mummy."
0:02:45 > 0:02:48You know, just... and didn't have a clue.
0:02:48 > 0:02:52In the early '90s, Natalie's mother married.
0:02:52 > 0:02:54Her husband became stepfather to Natalie,
0:02:54 > 0:02:56and the family moved to London.
0:02:58 > 0:03:01It was nice, because he was that father figure.
0:03:01 > 0:03:04He took me to school in the mornings on his bike...
0:03:06 > 0:03:09..and he also taught me how to ride my bike.
0:03:11 > 0:03:15With a father figure in her life, Natalie had found a happy home.
0:03:15 > 0:03:18I never felt that I missed out from that point.
0:03:18 > 0:03:21He, like, always showed love.
0:03:21 > 0:03:26And with the arrival of two half-sisters, life was good.
0:03:26 > 0:03:28But despite having a happy childhood,
0:03:28 > 0:03:33not knowing her birth father began to have an increasing impact on her.
0:03:33 > 0:03:36I think when it did hit me was when I was a teenager.
0:03:39 > 0:03:42Natalie's desire to know about her biological father grew,
0:03:42 > 0:03:45and by the time she went to university
0:03:45 > 0:03:48she was ready to tentatively start the search.
0:03:48 > 0:03:52Well, I typed in ways to find my dad, and at first I think
0:03:52 > 0:03:56I was a bit nervous and a bit cautious about it.
0:03:58 > 0:04:02But just as she plucked up the courage to start her search,
0:04:02 > 0:04:03her stepfather died.
0:04:06 > 0:04:09It was still quite fresh to everyone,
0:04:09 > 0:04:12and to sort of try to find him at that point,
0:04:12 > 0:04:15it was a bit too raw to cross that line,
0:04:15 > 0:04:16you know what I mean?
0:04:16 > 0:04:19So I didn't do it the first time round I saw it.
0:04:19 > 0:04:23Out of respect for her stepfather and the rest of the family,
0:04:23 > 0:04:24she abandoned the search.
0:04:28 > 0:04:31It wasn't until much later that she felt the time was right to
0:04:31 > 0:04:33begin the process once more.
0:04:34 > 0:04:36I actually just went,
0:04:36 > 0:04:39"OK, I've got to do this now. I'll just do it."
0:04:39 > 0:04:42Natalie's sole piece of information was that her father's name
0:04:42 > 0:04:44was Patrick Norman.
0:04:46 > 0:04:49Speaking to her mother, Penny, she also managed to obtain the name
0:04:49 > 0:04:54of the street where Penny and Patrick had lived in the '80s,
0:04:54 > 0:04:57but when it came to remembering the house number,
0:04:57 > 0:04:59Penny's memory was hazy.
0:04:59 > 0:05:02She thought it was either number 31 or 13.
0:05:04 > 0:05:06So, who is it that you're looking for?
0:05:06 > 0:05:07With a name and address,
0:05:07 > 0:05:11the team should be able to crosscheck their records.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14Head researcher Dave Oates took up the case.
0:05:14 > 0:05:16We looked at both numbers
0:05:16 > 0:05:20and found nobody matching either the first name or the surname
0:05:20 > 0:05:22that she'd provided at either address,
0:05:22 > 0:05:25and because she was confident that he'd lived there for a few years,
0:05:25 > 0:05:28we were fairly certain she had the wrong address.
0:05:28 > 0:05:30Their search had hit a hurdle.
0:05:31 > 0:05:34Dave e-mailed Natalie the news.
0:05:34 > 0:05:36When I first got that e-mail,
0:05:36 > 0:05:39it was sort of a bit of a kick in the teeth.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41It was a bit upsetting.
0:05:41 > 0:05:44I know for sure she's quite good with dates and things like that.
0:05:44 > 0:05:48You know, I didn't quite know what to do at that point.
0:05:49 > 0:05:51It was back to the drawing board.
0:05:51 > 0:05:54With no solid address, the team had nothing to go on,
0:05:54 > 0:05:57but Dave had a brainwave.
0:05:57 > 0:05:59We were fairly certain she had the wrong address,
0:05:59 > 0:06:02so we asked her to look at the street
0:06:02 > 0:06:04and perhaps go in person to visit it with her mum,
0:06:04 > 0:06:09who knew the address, to see if she could establish which house it was.
0:06:11 > 0:06:15Today, Natalie and her boyfriend, Chris, are retracing the steps
0:06:15 > 0:06:16she made with her mother.
0:06:18 > 0:06:21They're revisiting the road in Wolverhampton where her mum
0:06:21 > 0:06:23and Patrick lived in the late '80s.
0:06:24 > 0:06:27Penny believed the house was number 13 or 31,
0:06:27 > 0:06:29but the search had drawn a blank.
0:06:29 > 0:06:32They hoped the visit would jog Penny's memory.
0:06:32 > 0:06:36Well, basically, Mum recognised that pub over there.
0:06:36 > 0:06:39- What, that one down there? - On the corner.- OK.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42The pub was the first clue.
0:06:42 > 0:06:45But there was, like, a garage station that she recognised,
0:06:45 > 0:06:47cos it was opposite the flat,
0:06:47 > 0:06:50so I think it's more down there, actually.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52- OK, so shall we head that way? - Yeah.- OK.
0:06:53 > 0:06:59Natalie's mother hadn't been back to the street in 25 years.
0:06:59 > 0:07:03- So, she's having to go through, like, little details of...- Yeah.
0:07:03 > 0:07:08..how she came up the pathway to... Even just the route and things.
0:07:08 > 0:07:12Without the house number, there was no starting point to find her dad.
0:07:12 > 0:07:15And it was quite scary, actually, cos if...
0:07:15 > 0:07:18if she didn't remember, she was kind of like the last hope.
0:07:21 > 0:07:23Definitely getting really close.
0:07:24 > 0:07:29- Mm-hm.- Cos we actually came to this point over here, as well.
0:07:29 > 0:07:32She literally had to stop and go, "Er... Right, no, we're going back.
0:07:32 > 0:07:33"We've got to go back."
0:07:33 > 0:07:35- This is the one over here. - Oh, it's over here?
0:07:35 > 0:07:38- Yeah.- Oh, nice.- We were really excited when we saw it.
0:07:38 > 0:07:40It was just like, "Oh, my God! Oh, my God!"
0:07:40 > 0:07:41Then, I was like, "Are you sure?
0:07:41 > 0:07:43"Are you sure, Mum? Is this is the right address?"
0:07:43 > 0:07:47She was like, "Yeah, this is the right address." And that was...
0:07:47 > 0:07:50- So, as soon as she saw it...- Yeah. - As soon as she saw it, she knew.
0:07:50 > 0:07:53Yeah, she knew straight away.
0:07:53 > 0:07:58The magic number was 301, not 31 or 13,
0:07:58 > 0:08:00as Natalie's mum had previously thought.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02It was...it was like a...
0:08:02 > 0:08:05- I don't know, it was a very overwhelming moment.- Yeah.
0:08:05 > 0:08:08- It really was.- But, like you say, your mum needed to see this...- Yeah.
0:08:08 > 0:08:11- ..in order to just get anywhere. - Yeah, but it was...
0:08:11 > 0:08:13It was a big moment, it really was.
0:08:17 > 0:08:21With the correct house number and name, the hunt was on,
0:08:21 > 0:08:24and back at HQ, the team kicked into action.
0:08:24 > 0:08:27Once we had that information, we were able to go back
0:08:27 > 0:08:30and look at that address historically, to find out
0:08:30 > 0:08:32who was living at that address during the 1980s.
0:08:32 > 0:08:35That did give us a name which, although it was Patrick,
0:08:35 > 0:08:37was a different surname to what she'd provided.
0:08:37 > 0:08:41And then, that enabled us to look further at that person,
0:08:41 > 0:08:43to try and find out more details.
0:08:43 > 0:08:47The team had found a match on the address from the '80s, but finding
0:08:47 > 0:08:51Patrick's current whereabouts was going to prove more difficult.
0:08:51 > 0:08:54They had to search through various sources of information,
0:08:54 > 0:08:58including national databases and public records.
0:08:59 > 0:09:0224 hours later, the team had found Patrick,
0:09:02 > 0:09:06and were quick to e-mail the good news to Natalie.
0:09:06 > 0:09:09'Straight away, I was on my phone reading it,'
0:09:09 > 0:09:12and I was just like, "Oh, my God."
0:09:12 > 0:09:13It was amazing. It says,
0:09:13 > 0:09:17"Please find below your report in relation to Patrick Norman Poole.
0:09:17 > 0:09:20"Our expert researchers have performed several searches
0:09:20 > 0:09:24"for this person and can supply you with the following information..."
0:09:24 > 0:09:28And then, it told me about my dad's marriage records.
0:09:28 > 0:09:31But Patrick hadn't just got married - there was more.
0:09:31 > 0:09:33They had children.
0:09:33 > 0:09:36Really exciting, cos you just... you're like, "Oh, my God, wow,
0:09:36 > 0:09:39"I've got siblings and stuff."
0:09:39 > 0:09:43Natalie had a stepsister and a stepbrother.
0:09:43 > 0:09:46That automatically was just really exciting.
0:09:46 > 0:09:48And then they've got his address in, like,
0:09:48 > 0:09:51really capital letters, very bold writing. And you're just like,
0:09:51 > 0:09:54"Oh, my God, there it is. I know where he is."
0:09:56 > 0:10:00The only thing left for Natalie to do was write a letter -
0:10:00 > 0:10:01easier said than done.
0:10:01 > 0:10:03The ball's in your court, as it were.
0:10:03 > 0:10:06Then that's scary cos you don't know whether to do it or not.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09That's the final, sort of, actual push. You know, you don't know...
0:10:09 > 0:10:13That's the part where you go, "Do I? Do I do this?"
0:10:13 > 0:10:17Natalie plucked up the courage and put pen to paper.
0:10:17 > 0:10:20Yeah, I did write the letter in the end, and it was nice.
0:10:27 > 0:10:29"Hello, Patrick Blagrove.
0:10:29 > 0:10:33"I didn't think this day would come.
0:10:33 > 0:10:36"I'm so happy to have finally found you." And I thought...
0:10:40 > 0:10:43I looked at the front of the envelope and I said to myself,
0:10:43 > 0:10:45"Hang on, is that my writing?
0:10:45 > 0:10:47"How come I've sent something to myself?"
0:10:47 > 0:10:51Anyway, I opened the letter, and presumed to read the letter.
0:10:53 > 0:10:55"My name is Natalie Barker.
0:10:55 > 0:10:59"I was born in New Cross." And then it...and the penny dropped.
0:10:59 > 0:11:04"No easy way to say it but you are my biological dad.
0:11:08 > 0:11:11"I hope you take the time to consider this letter,
0:11:11 > 0:11:14"as it may be one of the hardest letters to write,
0:11:14 > 0:11:18"by all means, and to let you know whether or not you would want to
0:11:18 > 0:11:22"build on some kind of relationship within the near future."
0:11:24 > 0:11:27I actually thought this day would never come.
0:11:32 > 0:11:36And then, from then on, I was just looking forward to seeing her.
0:11:36 > 0:11:38With the help of the professionals,
0:11:38 > 0:11:41Natalie had finally tracked down her biological father.
0:11:48 > 0:11:52But for our next case, things weren't so simple.
0:11:52 > 0:11:56The story starts 280 miles north, in the West of Scotland.
0:11:57 > 0:12:03This is Hugh McGarvey. He was born in Glasgow in 1947.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06I was born and raised in the East End of Glasgow,
0:12:06 > 0:12:08in a place called Shettleston.
0:12:08 > 0:12:12When Hugh was ten, the family moved a mile up the road to Barlanark.
0:12:13 > 0:12:18Along with my two younger brothers, William and Daniel,
0:12:18 > 0:12:21and I stayed there until I met Margaret.
0:12:22 > 0:12:27In 1968, Hugh met his childhood sweetheart.
0:12:27 > 0:12:30They were married four years later.
0:12:30 > 0:12:34I married Margaret on the 26th of June, 1972.
0:12:34 > 0:12:37Erm, don't ask me how many years that is together.
0:12:37 > 0:12:40I remember the anniversaries but I can't remember the years.
0:12:40 > 0:12:45We've got three children - Victoria, who will be 40 this year,
0:12:45 > 0:12:47Christopher's 37
0:12:47 > 0:12:49and Gillian, who's 36,
0:12:49 > 0:12:51and I've got one grandchild.
0:12:51 > 0:12:55Life is good at the moment and I'm quite happily retired as well.
0:12:55 > 0:12:56Cup of tea?
0:12:56 > 0:12:59Hugh's worked hard over the years
0:12:59 > 0:13:01to provide for his family.
0:13:01 > 0:13:04He's had a career in the construction industry, and served
0:13:04 > 0:13:08with the Reserve Parachute Regiment in the 15th Scottish Battalion.
0:13:08 > 0:13:11He's now enjoying family life at home,
0:13:11 > 0:13:14but, while his home life feels complete,
0:13:14 > 0:13:15there's been a hole in his family
0:13:15 > 0:13:18since he lost his mother 12 years ago.
0:13:18 > 0:13:22She was the last in line of the Scott family.
0:13:22 > 0:13:27However, Hugh's recently discovered a surprising family secret.
0:13:27 > 0:13:29I was quite gobsmacked to discover that I had a cousin
0:13:29 > 0:13:32and nobody had ever spoke about her.
0:13:33 > 0:13:36For Hugh, the discovery that there's a living member
0:13:36 > 0:13:40on the Scott side of his family has come as quite a surprise.
0:13:40 > 0:13:46Growing up in '50s Glasgow, and not aware that there's a cousin
0:13:46 > 0:13:50who's eight years older than you and a part of your family,
0:13:50 > 0:13:54but just totally unaware of that person's existence.
0:13:54 > 0:13:56What's more, this cousin's whereabouts
0:13:56 > 0:13:58were shrouded in mystery.
0:13:58 > 0:14:00No-one's ever spoke about her.
0:14:00 > 0:14:05Never met her, obviously, and to suddenly discover
0:14:05 > 0:14:07that you have someone, a part of your family,
0:14:07 > 0:14:09or a part of my...
0:14:09 > 0:14:12my mother's side of the family, if you will,
0:14:12 > 0:14:14I'm just overwhelmed by that.
0:14:14 > 0:14:18Hugh first made this shocking discovery eight months ago.
0:14:18 > 0:14:20It was my cousin, another cousin,
0:14:20 > 0:14:23an older, elderly cousin - Catherine.
0:14:23 > 0:14:28And she, when she was a young girl, could remember playing with
0:14:28 > 0:14:32another little girl in my gran's house,
0:14:32 > 0:14:33way, way, way back.
0:14:33 > 0:14:37And she says, "I think that was Josephine."
0:14:37 > 0:14:38Stay.
0:14:38 > 0:14:40For Hugh, this unexpected development
0:14:40 > 0:14:43held particular significance.
0:14:43 > 0:14:46Finding Josephine is very important
0:14:46 > 0:14:50because she's the last link in a chain to
0:14:50 > 0:14:52my mother's side of the family.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56There's no...there's no-one left.
0:14:56 > 0:14:59She's the only one that's left on my mother's side of the family.
0:14:59 > 0:15:03That in itself is a big factor.
0:15:03 > 0:15:05But knowing where to begin his search for Josephine
0:15:05 > 0:15:08was going to be a challenge.
0:15:08 > 0:15:10Probably if my mum was alive,
0:15:10 > 0:15:12she may have been able to explain a bit more,
0:15:12 > 0:15:17but to try and find someone that you didn't know existed,
0:15:17 > 0:15:19someone that you don't know,
0:15:19 > 0:15:20and how do you go about it?
0:15:20 > 0:15:24It is quite daunting, so I made it a point that I'd say,
0:15:24 > 0:15:27"Right, I'm going to try and find this lady."
0:15:29 > 0:15:33To crack this enigma, Hugh needed some basic details,
0:15:33 > 0:15:36but those were thin on the ground.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39When I began the search for Josephine, I had a name
0:15:39 > 0:15:44and a rough idea of the area she was born in.
0:15:44 > 0:15:46That's all I had, I had nothing else.
0:15:47 > 0:15:51But by speaking to his other cousin, Catherine, the girl who used to
0:15:51 > 0:15:55play with Josephine, he also learnt another vital detail.
0:15:55 > 0:16:01She says, "I know she wanted to become a nun when she was 15 or 16.
0:16:01 > 0:16:04"She left to go to Ireland to be a nun,
0:16:04 > 0:16:07"and no-one ever seen or heard of her since."
0:16:07 > 0:16:11Finding out that Josephine had been a nun was a mixed blessing,
0:16:11 > 0:16:13as Hugh felt this information
0:16:13 > 0:16:15carried worrying implications for his search.
0:16:15 > 0:16:18I know that nuns generally...
0:16:18 > 0:16:21It was missionary work and they travel all over the world,
0:16:21 > 0:16:23so she could be anywhere.
0:16:23 > 0:16:26Is she in this country?
0:16:26 > 0:16:30Is she in Africa or South America, or wherever?
0:16:30 > 0:16:33Hugh's search was going to be even more problematic
0:16:33 > 0:16:35than he'd first imagined.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37How to find someone, you know,
0:16:37 > 0:16:39the proverbial needle in a haystack...
0:16:42 > 0:16:44To find this needle in a haystack,
0:16:44 > 0:16:48Hugh started by doing some digging himself.
0:16:48 > 0:16:51If he could locate a birth certificate for Josephine,
0:16:51 > 0:16:53he would have something to work with.
0:16:54 > 0:16:58His first port of call was the City Registration Office,
0:16:58 > 0:17:01for births, deaths, marriages and civil partnerships.
0:17:01 > 0:17:04- Hi, there.- Come in, take a seat, please.- Thank you.
0:17:04 > 0:17:07With thousands of details on file,
0:17:07 > 0:17:10it was a good starting point to begin his search.
0:17:10 > 0:17:15Josephine Scott. She's a cousin and I've...I've never met her.
0:17:17 > 0:17:20Hugh knew where Josephine was born.
0:17:20 > 0:17:24- Erm, was she born in Scotland, Glasgow?- Yeah, yeah.- Yeah, OK.
0:17:26 > 0:17:28Name, it would be Scott.
0:17:28 > 0:17:31- And first name, please?- Josephine.
0:17:31 > 0:17:35He also had an inkling about her mother's maiden name.
0:17:35 > 0:17:37I think it was Margaret McQuade.
0:17:37 > 0:17:40Maybe not, maybe Mary, but I think Margaret McQuade.
0:17:40 > 0:17:43Do you have a rough year when she was born?
0:17:43 > 0:17:45Late '30s, early '40s.
0:17:47 > 0:17:50By narrowing down their search to an eight-year birth period,
0:17:50 > 0:17:54it would hugely increase their chances of success,
0:17:54 > 0:17:57and, by an incredible stroke of luck,
0:17:57 > 0:18:01there was only one Josephine Scott born during this period in Glasgow.
0:18:01 > 0:18:04Erm, Josephine Scott, the full name.
0:18:04 > 0:18:06Uh-huh.
0:18:06 > 0:18:10And then date, 12th of June, 1941.
0:18:10 > 0:18:12The time of birth and the place of birth,
0:18:12 > 0:18:16which is 238 Thistle Street in Glasgow.
0:18:16 > 0:18:19The sex of the child is obviously female.
0:18:19 > 0:18:21And to confirm it was her,
0:18:21 > 0:18:24Josephine's parents were named on the certificate.
0:18:24 > 0:18:28Parentage details for father, first of all, Walter Lyle Scott.
0:18:28 > 0:18:30He was a motor lorry driver.
0:18:30 > 0:18:33And mother's details, Mary Margaret Scott,
0:18:33 > 0:18:35whose maiden surname was McQuade.
0:18:35 > 0:18:38- Mm-hm.- And then the informant was the father, Walter,
0:18:38 > 0:18:41so, he's signed Walter L Scott.
0:18:42 > 0:18:44It was the breakthrough Hugh needed...
0:18:47 > 0:18:51..but that was just the first part of the puzzle.
0:18:51 > 0:18:55Given Josephine's career as a nun, Hugh was no closer to knowing
0:18:55 > 0:18:59what corner of the globe she might be on now,
0:18:59 > 0:19:03so he got in contact with the professionals...
0:19:05 > 0:19:07..400 miles away, in London.
0:19:07 > 0:19:11Hi, it's the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service.
0:19:11 > 0:19:16The Salvation Army helps bring together over 2,000 families a year.
0:19:16 > 0:19:18Who are you trying to trace?
0:19:18 > 0:19:21Some cases can take as little as two days to solve.
0:19:21 > 0:19:23Others can take a lifetime.
0:19:23 > 0:19:27Putting people back in contact, it is a special moment,
0:19:27 > 0:19:29and especially one like this case,
0:19:29 > 0:19:33which I felt was going to be extremely difficult.
0:19:34 > 0:19:36Some cases can be a lot quicker.
0:19:36 > 0:19:39We just cannot put a time limit on a case.
0:19:40 > 0:19:44Armed with the birth certificate and the slim information he had
0:19:44 > 0:19:48obtained from cousin Catherine, Hugh handed over his findings.
0:19:48 > 0:19:52'In this case, he provided us with Josephine's birth name,'
0:19:52 > 0:19:58her date of birth, a last known address that she was known to be at,
0:19:58 > 0:20:03and also, that Josephine went to a convent in Ireland
0:20:03 > 0:20:07in the 1950s, and that was the last the family had heard of her.
0:20:07 > 0:20:09It wasn't much to go on,
0:20:09 > 0:20:13but enough for the team to begin the arduous task.
0:20:13 > 0:20:17Doing research under the surname Scott,
0:20:17 > 0:20:23and also, we have connections with Glasgow, Ireland and England,
0:20:23 > 0:20:25that would have been a lot of records to check.
0:20:27 > 0:20:30Even for the professionals, the case was going to be a challenge.
0:20:30 > 0:20:34I decided that I would go along the lines that possibly
0:20:34 > 0:20:36Josephine hadn't married,
0:20:36 > 0:20:40so I tried a line of enquiry straightaway
0:20:40 > 0:20:45which was available to us, which came back with a negative result.
0:20:45 > 0:20:49With searches coming up blank, the team were running out of options.
0:20:51 > 0:20:53Their next move was to enlist the help of
0:20:53 > 0:20:56one of a number of specialist companies that they work with.
0:21:03 > 0:21:06And the good news was, they found a match.
0:21:06 > 0:21:11I was overjoyed because I really felt this was going to be
0:21:11 > 0:21:13an impossible search to do,
0:21:13 > 0:21:15so when I had found her
0:21:15 > 0:21:17I was absolutely delighted.
0:21:17 > 0:21:20Hugh received the news the next day.
0:21:20 > 0:21:24"Dear Mr McGarvey, further to the enquiries we are
0:21:24 > 0:21:28"making on your behalf, we are pleased to be able to inform you
0:21:28 > 0:21:32"that we have succeeded in contacting your cousin Josephine."
0:21:32 > 0:21:34It says, "They've been given your own details
0:21:34 > 0:21:38"and we do hope that very soon you'll be in touch with each other."
0:21:38 > 0:21:39When I got that,
0:21:39 > 0:21:41I could have fell on my back.
0:21:41 > 0:21:43That is an absolutely incredible...
0:21:43 > 0:21:46I haven't met Josephine yet, but I, honestly,
0:21:46 > 0:21:48I'm looking forward to it, but that...
0:21:48 > 0:21:50The emotions that were running through,
0:21:50 > 0:21:53I can't explain them. I can't, I really can't.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56'I couldn't believe it. I got a handwritten letter.
0:21:57 > 0:21:59'Just out of the blue he's written to me
0:21:59 > 0:22:01'to say he'd like to get in touch with me.
0:22:03 > 0:22:05'I never dreamt for a minute that I had any relatives
0:22:05 > 0:22:07'on the other side of the family.'
0:22:10 > 0:22:11The fact that Hugh's found me
0:22:11 > 0:22:15is really the best thing that probably happened to me.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19Made up my mind, you know, right away.
0:22:19 > 0:22:22I had no hesitation - I was going to do it, you know.
0:22:22 > 0:22:24But where was Josephine living now?
0:22:24 > 0:22:27Had life as a nun taken her overseas?
0:22:27 > 0:22:30Me thinking that she's been in Africa and all over the world,
0:22:30 > 0:22:32or where she was somewhere,
0:22:32 > 0:22:36maybe in some place in South America or wherever.
0:22:36 > 0:22:40But Hugh could never have imagined that Josephine would have
0:22:40 > 0:22:42ended up where she did.
0:22:42 > 0:22:45And here she is, she's on the South Side of Glasgow.
0:22:46 > 0:22:50It turned out she was right on his doorstep all along.
0:22:50 > 0:22:53She's only about six miles away from me.
0:22:53 > 0:22:55That nearly floored me.
0:22:55 > 0:22:59It is just mind-boggling, mind-boggling.
0:23:02 > 0:23:06Josephine's story begins just a stone's throw from where
0:23:06 > 0:23:09Hugh was born, with her parents' marriage in 1940.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14I grew up in Glasgow - Thistle Street in the Gorbals.
0:23:16 > 0:23:18But it wasn't a conventional matrimony.
0:23:19 > 0:23:24My mum and dad ran away to get married
0:23:24 > 0:23:28because he was a Protestant and my mother was a Catholic.
0:23:29 > 0:23:31In the early 1940s,
0:23:31 > 0:23:35mixed-faith marriages weren't commonplace in the west of Scotland.
0:23:35 > 0:23:38My granny's brothers and sisters,
0:23:38 > 0:23:40I think they thought it was shocking
0:23:40 > 0:23:41that my mother would do that.
0:23:41 > 0:23:43It wasn't the kind of thing to do in they days, you know.
0:23:43 > 0:23:45And couples like Josephine's parents
0:23:45 > 0:23:49would have feared a level of prejudice from both sides.
0:23:51 > 0:23:54Sectarianism has been an issue in Glasgow over,
0:23:54 > 0:23:57certainly throughout the 1900s,
0:23:57 > 0:24:00and not just Glasgow, but the West Central Scotland.
0:24:00 > 0:24:04The divide between Catholics and Protestants is referred to
0:24:04 > 0:24:08as sectarianism and is visible at certain points in Scottish history.
0:24:09 > 0:24:14It came about through the arrival of the Irish
0:24:14 > 0:24:18to seek jobs in Scotland.
0:24:18 > 0:24:21Ireland was a very rural place at that time,
0:24:21 > 0:24:23and remained so for most of that century,
0:24:23 > 0:24:27whereas Scotland was in the throes of the Industrial Revolution.
0:24:27 > 0:24:29Social tensions arose in areas
0:24:29 > 0:24:33which saw a large influx of Irish immigrants.
0:24:33 > 0:24:36People did tend to - as immigrants do today -
0:24:36 > 0:24:39did tend to settle in particular areas,
0:24:39 > 0:24:41so it created concentrations
0:24:41 > 0:24:44which became known as Catholic or green areas,
0:24:44 > 0:24:47and where there was rivalry,
0:24:47 > 0:24:51or problems with the neighbouring indigenous population,
0:24:51 > 0:24:54who were largely Presbyterian and Protestant at this time.
0:24:54 > 0:24:59This led to the beginnings of what we can call now sectarian troubles.
0:24:59 > 0:25:03But it wasn't just religion that the Irish brought with them
0:25:03 > 0:25:05from across the sea.
0:25:05 > 0:25:07It wasn't simply because people were Catholic
0:25:07 > 0:25:11and others were Protestant, it was also due to the fact that
0:25:11 > 0:25:16people were arriving with different attitudes, different customs.
0:25:16 > 0:25:20It did create some resentment amongst the existing working class,
0:25:20 > 0:25:24and indeed, middle classes of the time, in Scotland.
0:25:24 > 0:25:26Over the next 100 years, both churches
0:25:26 > 0:25:29and their propaganda added fuel to the fire.
0:25:29 > 0:25:32And both on the Catholic side and the Presbyterian side,
0:25:32 > 0:25:34for a long time, they were saying,
0:25:34 > 0:25:37"No, we should not be marrying the other side," if you like.
0:25:37 > 0:25:43And as late as 1923, the Church of Scotland had a pamphlet which
0:25:43 > 0:25:48was declaring that the Irish race in Scotland were uncivilised
0:25:48 > 0:25:53and undermining the moral wellbeing of the people in Scotland.
0:25:54 > 0:25:58By the 1940s, it remained somewhat taboo to marry
0:25:58 > 0:26:02outside your faith, but where there was a will, there was a way.
0:26:02 > 0:26:04In the course of my genealogy work,
0:26:04 > 0:26:08I do come across mixed marriages between
0:26:08 > 0:26:12people who are evidently Catholic and people who are Protestant.
0:26:12 > 0:26:13You look at the record and you think,
0:26:13 > 0:26:16"What kind of trouble would that have caused in the family?"
0:26:16 > 0:26:18You know, would it have had parental approval?
0:26:18 > 0:26:20Would it have had church approval?
0:26:20 > 0:26:22Would they have had to bring their children up in that religion?
0:26:22 > 0:26:25So, it's an added layer of complication within a family,
0:26:25 > 0:26:28and could indeed lead to division within the family.
0:26:28 > 0:26:31Ultimately, people might get disowned.
0:26:36 > 0:26:39This was a dilemma which drew a wedge between many
0:26:39 > 0:26:41families in the 20th century.
0:26:43 > 0:26:47It's unclear how Josephine's parents' elopement was received
0:26:47 > 0:26:53but, once married, the pair were keen to have children of their own,
0:26:53 > 0:26:56and Josephine was born just a year later.
0:26:56 > 0:27:00But sadly, family life was short-lived.
0:27:00 > 0:27:03My dad was going into a garage
0:27:03 > 0:27:06and another person was coming out of the garage,
0:27:06 > 0:27:10but he was doing it the wrong way, and they crashed right into my dad.
0:27:10 > 0:27:13Josephine's father didn't survive the accident.
0:27:13 > 0:27:16His ribs went through his heart.
0:27:16 > 0:27:19He was killed when I was eight months old.
0:27:19 > 0:27:21Just a baby when the tragedy struck,
0:27:21 > 0:27:24Josephine has no memory of her father.
0:27:24 > 0:27:27I've not got any photographs of my dad,
0:27:27 > 0:27:30and I saw one, one time only,
0:27:30 > 0:27:32and I don't know what happened to it after that.
0:27:34 > 0:27:37Josephine found solace in religion.
0:27:37 > 0:27:40When she was 20, she decided to become a nun,
0:27:40 > 0:27:42and against her mother's wishes
0:27:42 > 0:27:44she travelled to a convent in Ireland.
0:27:45 > 0:27:52I left Glasgow on the 30th of January, 1962,
0:27:52 > 0:27:56and we took the boat over.
0:27:58 > 0:28:01She spent the next seven years completing her vows,
0:28:01 > 0:28:03but things didn't go to plan.
0:28:03 > 0:28:06Josephine fell in love with a priest
0:28:06 > 0:28:09and decided the sisterhood wasn't her calling.
0:28:09 > 0:28:12She returned to Glasgow, where she still lives to this day.
0:28:14 > 0:28:17Now in her 70s, there's one bit of history
0:28:17 > 0:28:20Josephine wants to track down for herself.
0:28:20 > 0:28:22'I've not got any photographs of my dad.
0:28:22 > 0:28:26'It would be nice to see my dad again.'
0:28:26 > 0:28:27Will her reunion with Hugh
0:28:27 > 0:28:30help her find the final piece of the puzzle?
0:28:35 > 0:28:39260 miles away, in Wolverhampton, a team of Family Finders has
0:28:39 > 0:28:44also helped Natalie Barker track down her biological father, Patrick.
0:28:46 > 0:28:48A week after receiving Natalie's letter,
0:28:48 > 0:28:51father and daughter agreed to meet up.
0:28:51 > 0:28:53First time I was waiting for my dad to arrive,
0:28:53 > 0:28:57it was really, really nerve-racking.
0:28:57 > 0:29:01Like, every single hour that went by, I was checking the time
0:29:01 > 0:29:03and just watching the minutes go really, really slowly.
0:29:03 > 0:29:06I was like, "Oh, come on!"
0:29:06 > 0:29:10The pair haven't seen one another for almost a quarter of a century.
0:29:10 > 0:29:13You've got this image in your head beforehand that you have
0:29:13 > 0:29:14probably when you're younger.
0:29:14 > 0:29:18That image, you know, now, could go one way or the other.
0:29:18 > 0:29:20You know, it could be good or bad.
0:29:20 > 0:29:24But the first time I actually went to Natalie's, slight nervousness.
0:29:24 > 0:29:27I was more or less thinking about the response.
0:29:27 > 0:29:30Today, they're meeting for only the third time.
0:29:30 > 0:29:33BELL BUZZES Oh, my God, every time.
0:29:33 > 0:29:35Every single time.
0:29:37 > 0:29:38Hello.
0:29:38 > 0:29:41Hello, Natalie. Dad speaking.
0:29:41 > 0:29:42Hiya!
0:29:42 > 0:29:44All right, I'll come down.
0:29:45 > 0:29:49'25 years, what I've missed out, and it's suddenly come together,
0:29:49 > 0:29:51'and I've sort of embraced it.'
0:29:53 > 0:29:57Natalie and Patrick are making up for lost time,
0:29:57 > 0:30:01and they've got more in common than they imagined.
0:30:01 > 0:30:04These are all from, like, when I used to do cross-country.
0:30:04 > 0:30:08God, do you know something? I used to do that when I was small.
0:30:08 > 0:30:12- Oh, my gosh.- I didn't realise you were a cross-country runner.- Yup.
0:30:12 > 0:30:14I didn't intend to be a cross-country runner, but...
0:30:14 > 0:30:17until the teacher put me in a race, and then I found,
0:30:17 > 0:30:19next thing, I was coming second.
0:30:19 > 0:30:23Then I went on to being a 400m runner,
0:30:23 > 0:30:26which I liked, but 800m is my field.
0:30:29 > 0:30:31Ah, I see you came first.
0:30:31 > 0:30:33Yeah, I'm first for that one. My God.
0:30:33 > 0:30:37- It's nice being your dad, though. - Mm.- You've got some medals.
0:30:37 > 0:30:38Yeah, what you need is a trophy cabinet,
0:30:38 > 0:30:41- I'll have to get you a trophy cabinet.- Yeah.- Yeah.
0:30:43 > 0:30:46- As you can see...- Patrick's brought the family photo album along
0:30:46 > 0:30:49to share his history with Natalie.
0:30:49 > 0:30:53This is me when I was, obviously...I think four.
0:30:57 > 0:30:59Does it look like me?
0:30:59 > 0:31:00Can you see?
0:31:00 > 0:31:02- Yeah.- My brother
0:31:02 > 0:31:05and your grandad and your grandma.
0:31:05 > 0:31:08- That's my mother's brother.- Aw...
0:31:08 > 0:31:10For the first time,
0:31:10 > 0:31:13she's learning about her family heritage on her father's side.
0:31:13 > 0:31:17My dad, obviously, comes from Hanover in Jamaica...
0:31:17 > 0:31:19- Hm.- ..and my mum comes from Saint Ann's in Jamaica,
0:31:19 > 0:31:21but they, like I said, they met over here.
0:31:21 > 0:31:24They were in their early 20s when they first come over here.
0:31:25 > 0:31:28During the 1960s, the British government encouraged
0:31:28 > 0:31:32skilled workers from the Commonwealth to come to Britain.
0:31:32 > 0:31:36Many migrants found work in the factories of Wolverhampton.
0:31:36 > 0:31:42Patrick's parents were among these workers, looking for a new life.
0:31:42 > 0:31:44I'm the oldest of four boys over here.
0:31:44 > 0:31:48- Is that you as well? - This is me now with my Afro.
0:31:48 > 0:31:51Those days, everybody used to wear the Afro and the curls.
0:31:51 > 0:31:53- The Jheri curls?- Yeah. - SHE LAUGHS
0:31:53 > 0:31:57And they put...what you call perms. A perm, isn't it?
0:31:57 > 0:31:59I used to have... You can see I've got an Afro there,
0:31:59 > 0:32:01- and my red trousers, look. - SHE LAUGHS
0:32:01 > 0:32:03People used to wear coloured trousers back in the '70s.
0:32:03 > 0:32:06It's all right, they're back in fashion, they are.
0:32:06 > 0:32:08- They've come back.- Oh, well, they've probably pinched it off me.
0:32:08 > 0:32:11How did you find it growing up in Wolverhampton?
0:32:11 > 0:32:14When it came to, obviously, culture differences and things, and...
0:32:14 > 0:32:16We adapted to culture differences.
0:32:16 > 0:32:20My parents have always adapted to the English way of life.
0:32:20 > 0:32:24- That's when... Basically, that's what I've always been taught.- Hm.
0:32:24 > 0:32:27So I've got the best of both worlds, really.
0:32:27 > 0:32:29I've learned the West Indian way
0:32:29 > 0:32:31- and I've learned the English way. - Hm.
0:32:31 > 0:32:35Having started her search with just a name and half an address,
0:32:35 > 0:32:37Natalie can now look forward to
0:32:37 > 0:32:39a new chapter of her life with Patrick.
0:32:47 > 0:32:50If you have a missing family member and want to trace them,
0:32:50 > 0:32:55here are some helpful tips when carrying out name searches.
0:32:55 > 0:32:58Never assume a family name is only spelt one way.
0:32:59 > 0:33:03Family names can be spelt in a number of different ways
0:33:03 > 0:33:06and it's not unusual to find mistakes have been made,
0:33:06 > 0:33:09often by those recording them.
0:33:09 > 0:33:12Smith can be Smyth,
0:33:12 > 0:33:14Rawlins can be Rawlings,
0:33:14 > 0:33:16and Kitson can be Kidston.
0:33:18 > 0:33:22Not only this, but names have evolved and changed over time.
0:33:24 > 0:33:27Individuals may marry and hyphenate a surname.
0:33:27 > 0:33:30They may become known by a nickname or they may decide to
0:33:30 > 0:33:33call themselves something different altogether.
0:33:33 > 0:33:38Make sure you check all the phonetic variations, just in case.
0:33:38 > 0:33:40Although this is time-consuming,
0:33:40 > 0:33:42the results could make it all worthwhile.
0:33:47 > 0:33:51In Wolverhampton, Natalie's search for her father is over.
0:33:51 > 0:33:54She's reflecting on the journey with her boyfriend, Chris.
0:33:54 > 0:33:57You've been wanting to find your family since, like,
0:33:57 > 0:33:58since I've known you.
0:34:00 > 0:34:03I think once I found him it was, like, you know,
0:34:03 > 0:34:07"Oh, OK. We can... We can handle anything now. It's fine."
0:34:10 > 0:34:14With her new-found confidence, the couple have some very exciting news.
0:34:14 > 0:34:17You know, I... I was going to marry her anyway.
0:34:17 > 0:34:18You know...
0:34:18 > 0:34:21Natalie and Chris have decided to tie the knot.
0:34:21 > 0:34:24She's found her dad and that's really helped,
0:34:24 > 0:34:27- just...just with you.- Hm.
0:34:27 > 0:34:30You know, cos I felt complete, it's like...
0:34:30 > 0:34:33it has allowed us to kind of move on
0:34:33 > 0:34:35to the next part of our lives together, type of thing.
0:34:35 > 0:34:40I have noticed a marked improvement in just how you feel about yourself.
0:34:40 > 0:34:43Him coming to my wedding is just, like, it's good.
0:34:43 > 0:34:45It's good, it's very good.
0:34:46 > 0:34:49It's been an eventful year for Natalie,
0:34:49 > 0:34:51and before she takes the plunge,
0:34:51 > 0:34:53she's invited Patrick to view the venue.
0:34:55 > 0:34:56- Oh, so... Oh, this is the room... - Yeah.
0:34:56 > 0:34:58- ..that you're getting married in. - Ooh.
0:34:58 > 0:35:00Oh, that's beautiful.
0:35:00 > 0:35:03Oh, it's lovely, that.
0:35:03 > 0:35:07Natalie has a very important question for her father.
0:35:07 > 0:35:08What I was hoping as well, though,
0:35:08 > 0:35:12is to have you and Mum walk me down the aisle.
0:35:12 > 0:35:17- At least then, like, Mum, you know, brought me up and stuff...- Mm.
0:35:17 > 0:35:20And then, you... I want the future as well, you know?
0:35:20 > 0:35:22- Yeah, I've got you. - And you're to be part of that, so...
0:35:24 > 0:35:27- I'll be honest, I'm proud.- Aw...
0:35:27 > 0:35:29Yeah, so I'll give you a kiss.
0:35:31 > 0:35:34- Oh.- It's a proud moment for Dad.
0:35:35 > 0:35:40Having both my dad and my mum walk me down the aisle,
0:35:40 > 0:35:41I think it's...
0:35:41 > 0:35:44it's a nice symbolic moment because in a sense,
0:35:44 > 0:35:47not only am I getting married,
0:35:47 > 0:35:48it's a new beginning.
0:35:48 > 0:35:52You know, he's going to be there for the future, as well.
0:35:52 > 0:35:55I'll be honest, I didn't expect it. You surprised me.
0:35:55 > 0:35:57'I'm so pleased that Natalie's found me,'
0:35:57 > 0:36:02and to now be part of her celebration and part of the wedding,
0:36:02 > 0:36:03and to be giving her away, as well.
0:36:03 > 0:36:05They're getting married.
0:36:05 > 0:36:07'In some respects I'm a bit nervous,'
0:36:07 > 0:36:10cos, obviously, you know, they haven't seen each other
0:36:10 > 0:36:14for a long time, but at the same time,
0:36:14 > 0:36:16I know it's a fresh start.
0:36:16 > 0:36:20For them to see each other after how many years and just be like,
0:36:20 > 0:36:21"Yeah, we did it."
0:36:22 > 0:36:24What dad wouldn't be proud?
0:36:24 > 0:36:29When I set out to find my dad, it was difficult.
0:36:29 > 0:36:35Like, the mix of emotions that come with it is tremendous.
0:36:35 > 0:36:38It's been the final piece of the puzzle for my life, really,
0:36:38 > 0:36:41and now it's time to start a new chapter.
0:36:41 > 0:36:44- The future's going to be bright. - Yeah.- Thank you very much.
0:36:44 > 0:36:46It's all right.
0:36:46 > 0:36:47They're getting married.
0:36:54 > 0:36:56With the help of the Salvation Army,
0:36:56 > 0:36:58Hugh McGarvey is also looking forward to
0:36:58 > 0:37:01a new chapter in his life.
0:37:01 > 0:37:05His hunt for Josephine is almost over,
0:37:05 > 0:37:08and his daughters are keen to hear his findings.
0:37:08 > 0:37:11- So, what is her name? What's her full name?- Josephine Scott.
0:37:11 > 0:37:13- And they found her?- Well, yeah.
0:37:13 > 0:37:15Where is she?
0:37:15 > 0:37:18She's in Glasgow, believe it or not.
0:37:18 > 0:37:21His search has thrown up some surprising details.
0:37:21 > 0:37:22How did Catherine know about her?
0:37:22 > 0:37:24Well, cos she's the same age as Catherine.
0:37:24 > 0:37:27She can vaguely remember playing with a wee girl
0:37:27 > 0:37:29up in your great-gran's house.
0:37:29 > 0:37:33It was his cousin Catherine who unlocked the mystery of
0:37:33 > 0:37:35Hugh's missing cousin Josephine.
0:37:35 > 0:37:37I think my dad's search is amazing.
0:37:37 > 0:37:41Erm, I never actually knew that he was embarking on this
0:37:41 > 0:37:43until a couple of days ago.
0:37:43 > 0:37:47She'd quite a remarkable life. As I say, she did become a nun...
0:37:47 > 0:37:49The fact that he knew that she existed
0:37:49 > 0:37:53and that he'd asked the Salvation Army to help him find her is...
0:37:53 > 0:37:54well, it's quite awesome.
0:37:54 > 0:37:59She's your gran's brother's daughter, the Scott side of the family.
0:37:59 > 0:38:03For Hugh, finding Josephine holds particular significance,
0:38:03 > 0:38:07as she is the last living relative from his maternal line.
0:38:07 > 0:38:10- What do I do, do I take flowers? - Aye.- I was going to say,
0:38:10 > 0:38:13what are you going to take? Maybe some flowers and a box of chocolates
0:38:13 > 0:38:15- or a box of shortbread... - I would have taken flowers.
0:38:15 > 0:38:16Not take a bottle of malt whisky
0:38:16 > 0:38:19- or anything, no? - No, no, do you know what I mean?- OK.
0:38:26 > 0:38:30Having lived parallel lives for the past 70 years,
0:38:30 > 0:38:32not knowing the other existed,
0:38:32 > 0:38:35the cousins are about to meet for the first time.
0:38:37 > 0:38:40Fingers crossed it will be good, but nervous, yeah.
0:38:40 > 0:38:41Yeah, I'm fairly nervous.
0:38:41 > 0:38:44You know, I did over 200 parachute jumps.
0:38:44 > 0:38:48My first one, I was absolutely terrified.
0:38:48 > 0:38:51I'm just as nervous as that first parachute drop.
0:38:55 > 0:38:57Very excited about meeting Hugh.
0:38:57 > 0:38:59I'm dying to see him, actually.
0:38:59 > 0:39:03I don't know whether he'll feel the same.
0:39:03 > 0:39:05And Hugh's not the only person
0:39:05 > 0:39:08Josephine will be reunited with today.
0:39:08 > 0:39:10I've got some photographs here,
0:39:10 > 0:39:13and I know that she hasn't got a...
0:39:14 > 0:39:18From what I gather, she's not got a photograph of her dad.
0:39:20 > 0:39:25So here I am in a taxi, going to visit a cousin I've never met,
0:39:25 > 0:39:29roughly 25 minutes away from where I stay, and I don't...
0:39:29 > 0:39:32I thought she was maybe in Africa or South America,
0:39:32 > 0:39:34could have been anywhere in the world.
0:39:36 > 0:39:39Oh, it is very, very important to me, you know,
0:39:39 > 0:39:43because he is a member of my family. He's my dad's nephew, you know?
0:39:46 > 0:39:48I don't know, has he got a full head of hair?
0:39:48 > 0:39:51I don't know. Not that I've got a full head of hair!
0:39:52 > 0:39:55Yeah, this is it...
0:39:55 > 0:40:00the final...few steps till I meet my cousin.
0:40:00 > 0:40:03- INTERCOM BEEPS - Josephine's had little contact
0:40:03 > 0:40:04with her close family
0:40:04 > 0:40:07but, thanks to Hugh, all that's about to change.
0:40:07 > 0:40:09Hello.
0:40:09 > 0:40:11Josephine, it's Hugh.
0:40:11 > 0:40:13- Right. - INTERCOM BEEPS
0:40:15 > 0:40:17I'm very excited.
0:40:19 > 0:40:21- Hello.- Josephine.
0:40:21 > 0:40:22- Hi.- I finally see you.
0:40:22 > 0:40:24- Hi.- Hi, how are you?
0:40:24 > 0:40:26- You've had a long wait.- Yeah.
0:40:26 > 0:40:28Oh, you're right there, a long wait.
0:40:28 > 0:40:30- Great to see you.- That's great.
0:40:30 > 0:40:31And these are for you.
0:40:31 > 0:40:33Oh, that's lovely. Thanks very much, Hugh.
0:40:33 > 0:40:35You've no idea what this is like today,
0:40:35 > 0:40:37- what this is for me.- I know.
0:40:39 > 0:40:40- Hm, hm, hm. - KISSING SOUND
0:40:42 > 0:40:44- At last, cousin.- At last, aye.
0:40:44 > 0:40:45At last, long last.
0:40:45 > 0:40:49I'm 68 years of age, she's 75 years of age and we're just starting off.
0:40:49 > 0:40:51This is a new adventure.
0:40:51 > 0:40:56- So you've came back to Glasgow... about 1970?- Aye.
0:40:56 > 0:40:59- And we're now into, what, 2015?- Aye.
0:40:59 > 0:41:0245 years you've been in Glasgow.
0:41:02 > 0:41:04- Uh-huh. - And you stay 20 minutes away.
0:41:04 > 0:41:06- I know. - I just find that absolutely...
0:41:06 > 0:41:08- You know, it's mind-boggling.- Aye.
0:41:08 > 0:41:11- Hopefully, we can make up for lost time.- I know, I know.
0:41:11 > 0:41:13I'm so thankful that I've finally found you.
0:41:13 > 0:41:16And Hugh has just the thing to get them started.
0:41:16 > 0:41:19And you said you didn't have many photographs of your dad?
0:41:19 > 0:41:21- No, only ever seen one. - Did you?
0:41:21 > 0:41:22I've got some old photos here.
0:41:22 > 0:41:24Oh, that's lovely.
0:41:24 > 0:41:27This is the first time Josephine will have seen her father
0:41:27 > 0:41:28since she was a child.
0:41:28 > 0:41:32That's one of them, with a friend, without his moustache.
0:41:32 > 0:41:34Oh, aye.
0:41:36 > 0:41:39And there he was, as clear as a bell,
0:41:39 > 0:41:42and I knew as soon as I looked at it, it was my dad.
0:41:42 > 0:41:44You know, just knew by looking at it.
0:41:44 > 0:41:46- His hair's all... - And that's the other one there.
0:41:46 > 0:41:49- The Errol Flynn one.- Oh, that's the one that I remember, aye.
0:41:49 > 0:41:52- Yeah?- That's the one I like.
0:41:52 > 0:41:55- You know, that's quite imprinted on my memory, this.- That one?
0:41:55 > 0:41:57- Yeah.- You know, I remember that.
0:41:57 > 0:42:00- What?- The moustache, you know.- Yeah.
0:42:00 > 0:42:04That was very, very like the one that my mum showed me.
0:42:04 > 0:42:08- You haven't seen that photograph since you were seven years old?- No.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11- About that, uh-huh, roughly. - Right, so that's 68 years ago.- Is it?
0:42:11 > 0:42:13- Aye, yeah. - That's absolutely incredible.- I know.
0:42:15 > 0:42:18Showing Josephine photos of her dad was...
0:42:18 > 0:42:23I was actually pretty gobsmacked when I discovered that the last time
0:42:23 > 0:42:26she'd seen a photograph of her dad, she was seven years old.
0:42:28 > 0:42:30- My...- And my mother always told me how good-looking he was.
0:42:30 > 0:42:33- Yeah, well, he looks a handsome lad, doesn't he?- Aye, aye.
0:42:33 > 0:42:36- The last link in the Scott family... - Aye, aye, aye.
0:42:36 > 0:42:39The final link will go on from here.
0:42:39 > 0:42:40Long-lost cousin, at last.
0:42:40 > 0:42:43Everybody's going to know. You'll be famous.
0:42:43 > 0:42:46So there's a whole new chapter to start again.
0:42:46 > 0:42:49- You ready?- Right, aye.
0:42:49 > 0:42:51SHUTTER CLICKS I can't wait to get her over
0:42:51 > 0:42:54to meet everyone, because she's got extended family over there.
0:42:54 > 0:42:55- Aye.- There we go.
0:42:55 > 0:42:58For Josephine, after years of feeling alone,
0:42:58 > 0:43:01it's the start of a new family adventure,
0:43:01 > 0:43:03with Hugh right by her side.
0:43:03 > 0:43:06I just...I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of my family.
0:43:06 > 0:43:10I'm really glad, glad it all happened. It was worth at all.
0:43:10 > 0:43:13You know, it really was.
0:43:13 > 0:43:15LAUGHTER