0:00:01 > 0:00:04If your job meant hardly seeing your family,
0:00:04 > 0:00:08the grass might look a lot greener down under.
0:00:08 > 0:00:12In 2009, the Guile family spent a week in New Zealand
0:00:12 > 0:00:16to see if their dream of a better future could be made real.
0:00:16 > 0:00:19Today, we're catching up with them to find out where they are now
0:00:19 > 0:00:22and if they've found what they were looking for.
0:00:22 > 0:00:26Pub landlord Simon Guile and his wife Claire
0:00:26 > 0:00:31have been thinking about emigrating to New Zealand for an easier life with their girls.
0:00:31 > 0:00:36About six months ago we decided what we were doing was destroying the family
0:00:36 > 0:00:41and, the children were growing up without, without seeing me and vice versa.
0:00:41 > 0:00:46You know, if Simon didn't run a busy pub any more, he would have more time to spend with us,
0:00:46 > 0:00:52and the idea of emigrating to New Zealand just meant that we'd have more time.
0:00:52 > 0:01:00But seven-year-old Izzy didn't understand why they couldn't spend time together at home.
0:01:00 > 0:01:03We could do that in England because he could get another job.
0:01:03 > 0:01:07Do you dislike New Zealand or you don't like the idea of living in New Zealand?
0:01:07 > 0:01:10Just don't like New Zealand.
0:01:10 > 0:01:14And when they did their sums New Zealand wasn't so appealing?
0:01:14 > 0:01:17It's not as simple as having a dream and you know, "Oh, let's do it,
0:01:17 > 0:01:19"let's have an adventure."
0:01:19 > 0:01:24We visit them one year on to find out how things have changed for the Guiles.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50In 2009, the Guile family were faced
0:01:50 > 0:01:53with one of the biggest decisions of their lives -
0:01:53 > 0:01:55whether to leave their home and loved ones
0:01:55 > 0:01:59for a new start on the other side of the world in New Zealand.
0:01:59 > 0:02:02Simon and Claire Guile lived with their three girls,
0:02:02 > 0:02:07ten-year-old Holly, seven-year-old Izzy, and new baby Amelie,
0:02:07 > 0:02:10in the pretty village of Hurst near Reading,
0:02:10 > 0:02:14and are thinking about moving 12,000 miles away to start a new life in New Zealand.
0:02:14 > 0:02:20Well, for years we've talked about adventure and doing something new, haven't we?
0:02:20 > 0:02:24And even at university we used to discuss places we'd like to go
0:02:24 > 0:02:29and places we'd like to live and it was always dreams, wasn't it?
0:02:29 > 0:02:31Simon had been running his own pub for 11 years.
0:02:31 > 0:02:36He'd made it into a successful business, but he worked long hours
0:02:36 > 0:02:41and has very little time to spend with Claire and the children.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44The most poignant moment in the last year has been
0:02:44 > 0:02:49Holly saying to Claire that they're almost like a single-parent family because I'm always here.
0:02:49 > 0:02:54That really caused me to sit up and think, "Well, I'm going to miss all her childhood."
0:02:54 > 0:03:01We don't have much family time because Daddy's always working
0:03:01 > 0:03:04and we only see him at dinner usually.
0:03:06 > 0:03:09We don't see him much.
0:03:09 > 0:03:15I wish it was different because it would be way better because then we'd be able to see him more.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17Now the pub's lease was up and he needed to decide
0:03:17 > 0:03:23whether to stay on for another three years or make the move down under.
0:03:23 > 0:03:30The opportunities start in New Zealand and to not be Simon, pub landlord, is quite exciting.
0:03:30 > 0:03:37But not everyone in the Guile family shared Simon's passion to make the move.
0:03:37 > 0:03:43Isobel's really not keen, really doesn't want to go to New Zealand at all.
0:03:43 > 0:03:45We really value their opinions, don't we?
0:03:45 > 0:03:50And she knows that we would never do anything big that they didn't want to do.
0:03:50 > 0:03:54Mummy won't go because I don't want to go
0:03:54 > 0:03:56and then Holly won't go because I don't want to go.
0:03:56 > 0:03:59I can visit it and see what it's like.
0:03:59 > 0:04:01I'll definitely give it a try.
0:04:01 > 0:04:03I just don't want...
0:04:03 > 0:04:06But Izzy wasn't alone.
0:04:06 > 0:04:10Although Claire wanted to support Simon,
0:04:10 > 0:04:12New Zealand felt like a step too far.
0:04:12 > 0:04:17Something my mum said was, um, "We'd never see you again.
0:04:17 > 0:04:24"Because it's such a long journey and such a lot of money, we might not EVER see you again."
0:04:24 > 0:04:29Simon would go tomorrow, the girls could possibly be persuaded
0:04:29 > 0:04:33and I'd love the idea of it,
0:04:33 > 0:04:38but the thought of not EVER seeing someone again is pretty scary.
0:04:38 > 0:04:40It was a tough decision.
0:04:40 > 0:04:44Would the prospect of being able to spend more time together as a family
0:04:44 > 0:04:48tempt them into making the move down under?
0:04:56 > 0:04:59The journey took them more than 12,000 miles
0:04:59 > 0:05:01across three continents,
0:05:01 > 0:05:03and they arrive 24 hours later in Auckland.
0:05:03 > 0:05:07And, surprisingly, they are looking rather chirpy.
0:05:08 > 0:05:12Looking forward to seeing what the country's got to offer us -
0:05:12 > 0:05:16job opportunities, houses, and activities we can all do together
0:05:16 > 0:05:19and looking for a change of lifestyle, so really exciting.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21We're all excited.
0:05:21 > 0:05:24It was a good thing the family were feeling rested
0:05:24 > 0:05:28because they had a jam-packed week ahead of them in Auckland.
0:05:29 > 0:05:30Wow, look at this.
0:05:30 > 0:05:33- SAT NAV:- You have reached your destination.
0:05:33 > 0:05:37The family's base for the week was this modern house
0:05:37 > 0:05:41in the coastal suburb of Red Beach, 15 miles from Auckland.
0:05:41 > 0:05:43Oh, look at that window.
0:05:46 > 0:05:49My goodness. It's like in the films.
0:05:49 > 0:05:52- What do you think?- Doesn't look real.
0:05:54 > 0:05:57First impressions were good
0:05:57 > 0:06:02but Claire and Simon knew exactly who would need to be convinced if the move was to become a reality.
0:06:02 > 0:06:06Even they've been quite speechless walking into this property
0:06:06 > 0:06:08so we will just see.
0:06:08 > 0:06:10You know, we'll be here by the beach,
0:06:10 > 0:06:12they might really love it and want to stay forever.
0:06:12 > 0:06:15We're going to cram as much in as we can,
0:06:15 > 0:06:17see as much as we can and do lots of activities
0:06:17 > 0:06:19and just have a fun time together
0:06:19 > 0:06:22and, you know, if it all clicks it clicks.
0:06:27 > 0:06:31Back in the UK, Simon, Claire and the girls
0:06:31 > 0:06:33lived in a four-bedroom cottage
0:06:33 > 0:06:36in the pretty village of Hurst in Berkshire.
0:06:37 > 0:06:41They had hoped to raise £165,000 in equity from the sale...
0:06:42 > 0:06:46..and had a budget of up to £220,000
0:06:46 > 0:06:48to spend on a potential New Zealand home.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52We showed them three properties
0:06:52 > 0:06:55to give them an idea of the cost of New Zealand houses.
0:06:57 > 0:07:01First up was a four-bedroom detached house
0:07:01 > 0:07:03in a quiet cul-de-sac in Snells Beach.
0:07:03 > 0:07:05It was on the market for £187,000,
0:07:05 > 0:07:09so well within budget.
0:07:09 > 0:07:10Scottish estate agent, Beth,
0:07:10 > 0:07:12showed them round.
0:07:13 > 0:07:17So it's a total family package, it's good value.
0:07:17 > 0:07:20It's four bedrooms, you've got your fenced yard.
0:07:20 > 0:07:23It's got nice outlook from the decks,
0:07:23 > 0:07:25you can see right across to the end of Snells Beach.
0:07:25 > 0:07:28This is where everybody comes on holidays,
0:07:28 > 0:07:31so it's great to live in a place that everyone comes on holidays.
0:07:31 > 0:07:33You don't need to sit in traffic to get here.
0:07:33 > 0:07:37That was everything they needed to know so it was on to tour the house.
0:07:37 > 0:07:38One of the double bedrooms here.
0:07:38 > 0:07:43As you can see, it's quite a large bedroom, good for older kids.
0:07:43 > 0:07:47- It is quite big.- They've got built-in wardrobe as well.
0:07:47 > 0:07:51Got another one of the rooms here. It's a little bit smaller.
0:07:51 > 0:07:57Down the corridor was a tiny baby room and the master bedroom.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00- Oh, that's big, isn't it? - Yeah. It has en suite as well.
0:08:03 > 0:08:06- It's a massive bedroom too. - It is a big bedroom.
0:08:06 > 0:08:09Simon didn't seem convinced by the house
0:08:09 > 0:08:12and there was just the garden left to see.
0:08:12 > 0:08:14The house was £33,000 under budget
0:08:14 > 0:08:17and would leave them virtually mortgage-free
0:08:17 > 0:08:18but what did they think?
0:08:18 > 0:08:21It looks quite nice from the outside,
0:08:21 > 0:08:25but it reminds me a bit of a caravan.
0:08:25 > 0:08:30Moving this far out of the city doesn't really appeal to us.
0:08:30 > 0:08:33We like to be more near the centre of things.
0:08:33 > 0:08:36They weren't bowled over by this house.
0:08:36 > 0:08:40If Claire and Simon were going to find a home that met all their needs,
0:08:40 > 0:08:42they would have to spend more.
0:08:45 > 0:08:49The next house was a much larger four-bedroom property
0:08:49 > 0:08:52set in the valley of Arkles Bay.
0:08:52 > 0:08:55It was just 20 miles from central Auckland
0:08:55 > 0:08:58and this was reflected in the £240,000 price tag.
0:09:00 > 0:09:01£20,000 over budget.
0:09:04 > 0:09:06Right, this is the main living area here.
0:09:06 > 0:09:09You can see it opens out onto the deck out here.
0:09:09 > 0:09:13It's open plan, all the tiled areas have got underfloor heating.
0:09:13 > 0:09:16- Oh, lovely.- So you put that on.
0:09:16 > 0:09:21The house had an upside-down design with the living space and master bedroom on the first floor.
0:09:21 > 0:09:24The master bedroom, it's got the large ranch slider
0:09:24 > 0:09:28that opens out and you have a look at the bush out there and...
0:09:28 > 0:09:29It's got a lovely outlook.
0:09:29 > 0:09:33This house had a lot more going for it than the first
0:09:33 > 0:09:35but did the Guiles like it?
0:09:36 > 0:09:38It's not cosy, is it?
0:09:38 > 0:09:39It's a good living space,
0:09:39 > 0:09:45- but we'd rather have less living space and more money.- Yeah.
0:09:45 > 0:09:48So not the right home for then girls.
0:09:48 > 0:09:53Would the last house have space they wanted without the big price tag?
0:09:53 > 0:09:56Just five minutes away was this four-bedroom detached modern home.
0:09:56 > 0:09:58It had all they were looking for
0:09:58 > 0:10:02and was on the market for £200,000, so just under budget.
0:10:02 > 0:10:05But was it the right home for them?
0:10:05 > 0:10:11So you've got your kitchen-dining lounge area down here.
0:10:11 > 0:10:13The property is facing north.
0:10:13 > 0:10:15Lovely open plan aspect, isn't it?
0:10:15 > 0:10:16The thing about this property,
0:10:16 > 0:10:19no-one is looking in on you, you're looking out.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22- Yeah.- There's a feeling of space. - Quite elevated, aren't you?
0:10:22 > 0:10:25Yeah, from all the rooms it's quite a good outlook.
0:10:25 > 0:10:28Just like the last house, this also had an upside-down design
0:10:28 > 0:10:32to take advantage of the views.
0:10:32 > 0:10:37Outside, there was a decked area which was a popular feature of Kiwi homes
0:10:37 > 0:10:40and offered a bird's-eye view of the neighbourhood.
0:10:40 > 0:10:44We've got this wraparound deck here. It's just built for the sun.
0:10:44 > 0:10:46Up there and down to your left.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49- Really good for entertaining. - Fantastic view.
0:10:49 > 0:10:53And then you've got the undercover area here for when it's raining.
0:10:53 > 0:10:56So you can still use your barbeque if you want.
0:10:56 > 0:10:59That's good. Rather than standing with a brolly like you do.
0:10:59 > 0:11:03Claire and Simon seemed genuinely taken by this house
0:11:03 > 0:11:07but it didn't convince Izzy that New Zealand was a good move.
0:11:07 > 0:11:10Do you like this house more than our house at home,
0:11:10 > 0:11:12or do you prefer our house at home?
0:11:12 > 0:11:16- I prefer our house. - Do you? Why do you prefer our house?
0:11:16 > 0:11:22Because it's cosy, it's small and it's... This one you feel
0:11:22 > 0:11:29very small in it and in the other, in our house you feel big.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32Do you? Oh. Holly, what do you think of this house?
0:11:32 > 0:11:36- I think it's cool.- Do you?- I like it.- What's your favourite bit?
0:11:36 > 0:11:38Ah, I don't know, I like it all.
0:11:38 > 0:11:41It's certainly a house we can afford, it's aspirational,
0:11:41 > 0:11:44it's something we can certainly move into straightaway
0:11:44 > 0:11:48and start living and there wouldn't be an awful lot to do
0:11:48 > 0:11:51- other than enjoy ourselves. - It's a very appealing thought.
0:11:51 > 0:11:55Which is certainly what we're trying to achieve with moving.
0:11:55 > 0:12:00- I wouldn't move here.- No. - If I had the choice.
0:12:00 > 0:12:01No. OK.
0:12:02 > 0:12:06They found a great house and it was within budget
0:12:06 > 0:12:10but, for Izzy, it didn't match their home in the UK.
0:12:10 > 0:12:12How did they all vote on property?
0:12:12 > 0:12:15From the three houses we saw today
0:12:15 > 0:12:17I only really preferred one out of the three,
0:12:17 > 0:12:20so on that thought, I'd go for UK houses.
0:12:20 > 0:12:23I still prefer the traditional British property
0:12:23 > 0:12:28so for that reason I'm going to go for the UK.
0:12:28 > 0:12:30I'm going to vote UK.
0:12:30 > 0:12:33They were too big and made you look small
0:12:33 > 0:12:40so for that reason today I'm going to vote for UK.
0:12:47 > 0:12:50For the Guile family, moving to the other side of the world
0:12:50 > 0:12:54was all about being able to spend more time together.
0:12:54 > 0:12:58For their family day out we set them a challenge -
0:12:58 > 0:13:01to take a trip to North Head in Devonport
0:13:01 > 0:13:05and cycle up a dormant volcano that looked across Auckland.
0:13:05 > 0:13:08The move to New Zealand would really mean
0:13:08 > 0:13:13that we have more time together as a family and do things like today.
0:13:13 > 0:13:17Simon and the children just love being together.
0:13:17 > 0:13:21The girls love it because Daddy's a bit more adventurous than Mummy
0:13:21 > 0:13:25and does more dangerous things and they just think it's great.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28OK? Ready to go?
0:13:28 > 0:13:30They shine when we're all together.
0:13:30 > 0:13:33They're much happier and it just shows.
0:13:36 > 0:13:40You can see for miles and miles and miles, can't you?
0:13:40 > 0:13:43It just looks too perfect.
0:13:43 > 0:13:46This is just stunning sitting here in this beautiful...hump.
0:13:46 > 0:13:47What is it?
0:13:47 > 0:13:50- It's a volcano. - It's a volcano. Sitting here...
0:13:50 > 0:13:53It's not going to go off, don't worry.
0:13:53 > 0:13:56It's just added another dimension to our thoughts.
0:13:56 > 0:14:00It's a bit like going through therapy the last couple of days
0:14:00 > 0:14:03because you know we don't really spend time together
0:14:03 > 0:14:06- discussing what's going on in our lives.- No.
0:14:06 > 0:14:07Life just sort of drags us along
0:14:07 > 0:14:10and it's been quite nice to sort of step back and slow down
0:14:10 > 0:14:14and I think that's what we could actually find we could do here,
0:14:14 > 0:14:18we could slow down. That's what we're hoping would be the case.
0:14:18 > 0:14:22In the UK, Claire and the girls often had to go on day trips
0:14:22 > 0:14:25and even holidays without Simon, due to his work commitments.
0:14:25 > 0:14:28And it was days like this that reminded everyone
0:14:28 > 0:14:30what they'd been missing out on.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35I'd like Daddy to be around more and see us more
0:14:35 > 0:14:40instead of just, like, just for dinner and stuff.
0:14:40 > 0:14:42- When we do things as a family... - Yeah.
0:14:42 > 0:14:45You like that, don't you? But it doesn't happen very often, does it?
0:14:45 > 0:14:48It's just we don't have the time, do we?
0:14:48 > 0:14:52- Yeah. Because Daddy's always working.- Yeah.
0:14:52 > 0:14:55Seeing his children happy brought home
0:14:55 > 0:14:58just why Simon wanted to make the move.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01It's quite emotional, really. I know there's a strength of feeling
0:15:01 > 0:15:04there from them and they want to spend more time with me
0:15:04 > 0:15:10and it does sort of tell me that we're striving to do the right thing.
0:15:10 > 0:15:14But Izzy still didn't understand why the changes in lifestyle
0:15:14 > 0:15:17couldn't be made at home in the UK.
0:15:17 > 0:15:20We could do that in England because he could get another job.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23What about living by the seaside, Iz? Do you like that?
0:15:23 > 0:15:28I don't really, really care because you can do stuff at home.
0:15:28 > 0:15:32Do you actually dislike New Zealand or you just don't like the idea of living here?
0:15:32 > 0:15:36- Don't like New Zealand. - If you came here for a holiday, would you like it?
0:15:36 > 0:15:39If we were just here on holiday and we weren't looking at houses
0:15:39 > 0:15:43and were just doing nice things, would you enjoy it?
0:15:43 > 0:15:46- No, I don't like it.- No? - I just don't like New Zealand.
0:15:46 > 0:15:49I think that she doesn't dislike New Zealand,
0:15:49 > 0:15:53she just doesn't want to move here and doesn't want to admit it.
0:15:53 > 0:15:56If we come out here and he does a different job
0:15:56 > 0:15:58which doesn't involve working
0:15:58 > 0:16:03when we're not at school or anything,
0:16:03 > 0:16:07then, yeah, it could be worth coming out here.
0:16:07 > 0:16:11Holly could see the benefits of moving to New Zealand
0:16:11 > 0:16:16but there was still work to be done before Izzy could be persuaded to make the move.
0:16:16 > 0:16:20They'd had the opportunity to spend the day together
0:16:20 > 0:16:23so how did they vote on lifestyle?
0:16:23 > 0:16:25If living in New Zealand affords me a lifestyle
0:16:25 > 0:16:28where I can see Claire and the children a lot more
0:16:28 > 0:16:31then that's all good for me so an easy decision, New Zealand.
0:16:31 > 0:16:35I think this one just has to be New Zealand.
0:16:35 > 0:16:40I really enjoyed it because we could spend more time with Daddy
0:16:40 > 0:16:44so for that reason I'm voting New Zealand.
0:16:44 > 0:16:49I enjoyed it with Daddy but, um, he could get another job in the UK.
0:16:49 > 0:16:53We could do that in the UK, so I'm voting New Zealand.
0:16:53 > 0:16:55They've convinced Izzy!
0:16:55 > 0:16:59- Only joking. UK.- Or maybe not.
0:17:05 > 0:17:10Back in the UK, Simon owned and ran a successful pub business.
0:17:10 > 0:17:15He paid himself a salary of between £50,000 and £70,000 a year.
0:17:15 > 0:17:17But it came at a cost.
0:17:17 > 0:17:19He worked on average 65 hours a week
0:17:19 > 0:17:22and got very little quality time with the family.
0:17:22 > 0:17:25For some time he'd dreamt of pursuing his ambition of working on
0:17:25 > 0:17:30and eventually owning his own vineyard.
0:17:30 > 0:17:34Claire could work part-time teaching and Simon's career change
0:17:34 > 0:17:37could allow him to spend more time with the family.
0:17:37 > 0:17:42We arranged for them to meet a New Zealand wine maker.
0:17:42 > 0:17:46Simon needed to find out if his dream could become a reality.
0:17:46 > 0:17:50And they were given a traditional Maori welcome.
0:17:50 > 0:17:54HE BLOWS CONCH SHELL
0:17:55 > 0:17:58# Toia mai I te waka
0:17:58 > 0:18:00# Ki te urunga Te waka
0:18:00 > 0:18:03# Ki te moenga Te waka
0:18:03 > 0:18:06# Ki te takotoranga Te waka! #
0:18:06 > 0:18:07Hi. Simon.
0:18:07 > 0:18:12The hongi was the traditional Maori greeting.
0:18:12 > 0:18:14After exchanging their life breath,
0:18:14 > 0:18:17the stranger is then considered a person of the land.
0:18:17 > 0:18:21- Hello, Simon.- Hi.- Hello, Claire. - Hello.- Hello, family.
0:18:21 > 0:18:23Welcome to New Zealand and Matakana.
0:18:23 > 0:18:25Would you like to come inside now?
0:18:26 > 0:18:30Mary and her husband, David,
0:18:30 > 0:18:33set up their winery and restaurant 20 years ago.
0:18:33 > 0:18:36Simon hoped to get advice from them before he made any decisions.
0:18:36 > 0:18:40- Hello, I'm David.- Pleased to meet you.- Welcome to Heron's Flight.
0:18:40 > 0:18:42I'm glad to be here and thanks for inviting us.
0:18:42 > 0:18:44I'm very happy to show you around.
0:18:44 > 0:18:48The family vineyard was spread over 15 acres
0:18:48 > 0:18:51and when he bought the land in the late '80s,
0:18:51 > 0:18:54he had no experience of wine making, just like Simon.
0:18:58 > 0:19:00A lot of people say they want to get into the wine industry
0:19:00 > 0:19:02because they like drinking wine.
0:19:02 > 0:19:06- Right.- Or because they like the romance of having a vineyard
0:19:06 > 0:19:10and being able to share bottles of wine with their friends.
0:19:10 > 0:19:14It's a good idea. If you don't have that, you don't want to do it, but...
0:19:14 > 0:19:16- Yeah.- You are decidedly different.
0:19:16 > 0:19:18You actually have a skill in the food industry.
0:19:18 > 0:19:22Why would you want to come to New Zealand, other side of the world,
0:19:22 > 0:19:25and why would you want to change your occupation?
0:19:25 > 0:19:26Over the last couple of years
0:19:26 > 0:19:29I've thought long and hard about what I wanted to do,
0:19:29 > 0:19:32and whether it's a midlife crisis or what, I don't know.
0:19:32 > 0:19:33Oh, you're not old enough yet.
0:19:33 > 0:19:36I don't know, we tend to have them earlier in the UK.
0:19:36 > 0:19:38You wouldn't believe it.
0:19:38 > 0:19:41- Because it's a dark climate. You don't get enough sun.- Yeah.
0:19:41 > 0:19:46For me, I can move to New Zealand and be virtually mortgage-free,
0:19:46 > 0:19:50which will allow me to work in the wine industry on a minimum wage.
0:19:50 > 0:19:56But in New Zealand, the minimum wage was £5.50 an hour.
0:19:56 > 0:20:00David's vineyard manager, Justin, had over 15 years' experience
0:20:00 > 0:20:03and only took home £15,000 a year.
0:20:03 > 0:20:06If they made such drastic a change,
0:20:06 > 0:20:11Claire would have to go back to teaching to subsidise their income.
0:20:11 > 0:20:16- I would be over-romanticising it if I said it wasn't a struggle.- No.
0:20:16 > 0:20:20Because it's not very lucrative...
0:20:20 > 0:20:22I would go back to teaching to support our income.
0:20:22 > 0:20:26- And teaching is actually quite well paid here.- Is it?
0:20:26 > 0:20:29- And there are lots of nice schools around here.- Yeah.
0:20:29 > 0:20:30Matakana School in particular.
0:20:30 > 0:20:33- Yes.- They're always looking for good teachers.
0:20:33 > 0:20:35That was great news for Claire.
0:20:35 > 0:20:38She could find work easily and help Simon fulfil his dream.
0:20:38 > 0:20:41But if Simon couldn't get the salary he needed,
0:20:41 > 0:20:43the move would be in serious doubt.
0:20:43 > 0:20:48So there's five mouths to feed in my family.
0:20:48 > 0:20:53- And on a minimum wage, it would be quite difficult to make ends meet. - Yeah.
0:20:53 > 0:20:58How am I going to get into this and fast-track myself to a better salary?
0:20:58 > 0:21:01Your best bet would be the bigger wineries.
0:21:01 > 0:21:05They will train up people every season and they normally pay
0:21:05 > 0:21:08at least a few dollars, 3 or 4 above the minimum wage.
0:21:08 > 0:21:10The amount of hours you'd be putting in,
0:21:10 > 0:21:14you'd end up with a reasonably decent pay packet at the end of the week.
0:21:14 > 0:21:17You know, if you're in a bigger place, running a big vineyard
0:21:17 > 0:21:20or something, you know, you can probably expect to earn upwards of
0:21:20 > 0:21:23- 50,000 or 60,000 a year.- Yeah.
0:21:23 > 0:21:27- Yeah.- When Claire arrives I'll tell her that she's got to work full-time
0:21:27 > 0:21:29because I ain't going to earn anything.
0:21:29 > 0:21:31No, she'll get used to it.
0:21:31 > 0:21:35- Good luck with that, Simon. - Well, that's all right.
0:21:38 > 0:21:40Although he got some questions answered,
0:21:40 > 0:21:43for Simon it raised new ones.
0:21:43 > 0:21:48Was Claire prepared to go back to work full-time with a ten-month-old baby?
0:21:48 > 0:21:52And could they afford the lifestyle they wanted on such a small wage?
0:21:52 > 0:21:57How did Simon vote on his experience of New Zealand work?
0:21:57 > 0:22:02Having seen what there is involved in running and working in a vineyard,
0:22:02 > 0:22:04I haven't been put off by the long hours
0:22:04 > 0:22:08and potential for working weekends in harvest time.
0:22:08 > 0:22:12I can negotiate around a minimum wage for a few years
0:22:12 > 0:22:18and develop my winemaking skills and so my decision today is New Zealand.
0:22:18 > 0:22:20Although Simon voted for New Zealand,
0:22:20 > 0:22:23the girls would have to face the cost soon.
0:22:23 > 0:22:28And when they did, would their dreams of a fresh start come to an end?
0:22:33 > 0:22:38Simon and Claire's UK property was on the market for £350,000.
0:22:38 > 0:22:44If they got their asking price, it would give them equity of 165,000,
0:22:44 > 0:22:49but with Simon giving up his UK wage to start a new career,
0:22:49 > 0:22:51his reduced salary might not be enough.
0:22:51 > 0:22:54We've prepared a breakdown of their everyday living costs
0:22:54 > 0:22:58to see if they could afford the life they wanted in New Zealand.
0:23:00 > 0:23:06Look, around 32% of New Zealanders have some form of health insurance.
0:23:06 > 0:23:10You have to pay up to £19 per visit to the GP.
0:23:10 > 0:23:15I think you'd have to add in the health insurance, wouldn't you, as well, at £50...
0:23:15 > 0:23:18Monthly shop's going to cost us another hundred quid.
0:23:18 > 0:23:20Gas and electricity is half.
0:23:20 > 0:23:25So what are we looking at, salary-wise?
0:23:25 > 0:23:2812.50 an hour.
0:23:28 > 0:23:30Well, I'd have to work full-time.
0:23:30 > 0:23:34Yeah. There's £1,200 difference in terms of earnings, but...
0:23:34 > 0:23:40For Claire, it's essential that they can make an annual return journey to the UK to see the family.
0:23:40 > 0:23:44Return flights from New Zealand to UK...
0:23:44 > 0:23:48- Yeah?- ..cost an average of £800 to £1,000 per adult.
0:23:48 > 0:23:51You'd have to make provision each month.
0:23:51 > 0:23:55Yeah. A sort of contingency fund.
0:23:55 > 0:23:58Depending on how many times you want to go back.
0:23:58 > 0:24:00If you want to go back once a year,
0:24:00 > 0:24:02you've got to save £400 a month for it.
0:24:02 > 0:24:07On a reduced salary that's a huge amount to find each month.
0:24:07 > 0:24:08Was it possible?
0:24:08 > 0:24:11What's the difference between that?
0:24:11 > 0:24:16So it would leave us with £739 a month left over,
0:24:16 > 0:24:19so we wouldn't really be any better off.
0:24:19 > 0:24:24You couldn't take £400 a month out of that to save,
0:24:24 > 0:24:27so this is telling us that even if we save £200 a month,
0:24:27 > 0:24:29which would probably be difficult,
0:24:29 > 0:24:32we could only return back to the UK every two or three years.
0:24:32 > 0:24:37- Yeah. If that.- And realistically, probably every five years.
0:24:37 > 0:24:40Mm.
0:24:40 > 0:24:42And then things really change.
0:24:42 > 0:24:43Yeah.
0:24:43 > 0:24:48To only see their family every few years was a massive blow.
0:24:48 > 0:24:53It looked like Simon's dream was moving further and further away.
0:24:53 > 0:24:55There's no point coming halfway across the world
0:24:55 > 0:24:59to change your lifestyle and create more time for the family
0:24:59 > 0:25:02and then have no money left.
0:25:02 > 0:25:08I'd need to consider whether I follow my heart and my dream
0:25:08 > 0:25:11and want to make wine or whether I, you know...
0:25:11 > 0:25:13I've got to really do a bit of soul searching and decide
0:25:13 > 0:25:17where my priorities are and how much I can earn doing other things.
0:25:17 > 0:25:19It's not as simple as having a dream
0:25:19 > 0:25:22and just, you know, "Oh, let's do it,
0:25:22 > 0:25:24"let's have an adventure, let's go,"
0:25:24 > 0:25:28because there's so many aspects to it you haven't considered.
0:25:28 > 0:25:34If I could guarantee I could fly home once or twice,
0:25:34 > 0:25:39or at least once a year and my family could fly to see me
0:25:39 > 0:25:42then it wouldn't be such a scary prospect,
0:25:42 > 0:25:44but looking at the figures,
0:25:44 > 0:25:47we wouldn't be able to afford to go home.
0:25:47 > 0:25:49It's almost a selfish decision to come here
0:25:49 > 0:25:55and to remove yourself from the circles you move in at the moment
0:25:55 > 0:25:56purely for your own benefit,
0:25:56 > 0:26:02but, you know, we've got to think what's best for the five of us.
0:26:06 > 0:26:10It seemed the promise of a better life in New Zealand
0:26:10 > 0:26:14could prevent them from seeing family in the UK for years at a time.
0:26:14 > 0:26:17And the prospect of being without the support of loved ones
0:26:17 > 0:26:20wasn't one they could contemplate.
0:26:25 > 0:26:28The Guile family were near the end of their week
0:26:28 > 0:26:32and the big decision they had to make was looming.
0:26:32 > 0:26:38Seeing messages from friends and family back home would only make it harder.
0:26:38 > 0:26:43Hi there, everybody, especially Holly, Izzy and Amelie.
0:26:43 > 0:26:45Hello.
0:26:45 > 0:26:47I really, really miss you.
0:26:47 > 0:26:50I hope you're having a very nice time.
0:26:50 > 0:26:52I really, really want you to come back.
0:26:52 > 0:26:55Hello, you lot. Big wave.
0:26:55 > 0:26:57- Hi, Claire, Si.- Hi, guys.
0:26:57 > 0:27:00To actually have 50% of my family
0:27:00 > 0:27:02moving to the other side of the world
0:27:02 > 0:27:07is devastating to me, but having said all that,
0:27:07 > 0:27:11it's an opportunity I would love them to take.
0:27:11 > 0:27:14I can see why they want to do it because of, you know, um,
0:27:14 > 0:27:17Simon working so hard and not seeing the family,
0:27:17 > 0:27:21but I think there are other ways around it
0:27:21 > 0:27:25rather than disappearing off round the other side of the world.
0:27:25 > 0:27:28It's the thought that they're so far away
0:27:28 > 0:27:30that gets to you more than anything else.
0:27:30 > 0:27:31My main concern would be
0:27:31 > 0:27:35that having made the decision to go that they don't regret it,
0:27:35 > 0:27:39that they're actually making it for all the right reasons.
0:27:39 > 0:27:42I hope you're having a good time and I hope you really like New Zealand,
0:27:42 > 0:27:44but please, please, Claire and Simon,
0:27:44 > 0:27:47just think about the long-term picture.
0:27:47 > 0:27:51We just hope you enjoy yourselves and make the right decision.
0:27:51 > 0:27:54I just need you to know that I love you very much
0:27:54 > 0:27:56and it doesn't matter what your decision is
0:27:56 > 0:27:59because I shall see you and love you just as much
0:27:59 > 0:28:03whether you're in this country or New Zealand.
0:28:03 > 0:28:07It will affect me and I know how it will affect Gordon,
0:28:07 > 0:28:11but on a personal basis I shall just miss having them around.
0:28:11 > 0:28:14Just knowing that they're there as part of the family,
0:28:14 > 0:28:19they're an important part of the family and, um, I love the girls
0:28:19 > 0:28:22and I've really got to know them.
0:28:22 > 0:28:26Not being able to look after Amelie as well.
0:28:26 > 0:28:28So, yeah, it will be hard.
0:28:33 > 0:28:37Kind words, some very wise words.
0:28:37 > 0:28:42Well, it's just reassuring to know your family's there for you.
0:28:42 > 0:28:46I feel guilty, I think I'd feel guilty if we came,
0:28:46 > 0:28:51if we took the grandchildren away from their grandparents
0:28:51 > 0:28:55and the thing that I'm thinking a lot is that it's a selfish move.
0:28:55 > 0:28:57To come here would be selfish.
0:28:57 > 0:28:58Selfish, yes, maybe,
0:28:58 > 0:29:04but we need to do what's best for us as a family and,
0:29:04 > 0:29:08um, that decision's going to be a hard decision to come to, I think.
0:29:08 > 0:29:12Things like this really make you realise how much they mean to you
0:29:12 > 0:29:15and how much they mean to the children,
0:29:15 > 0:29:17and Isobel just adores her grandparents
0:29:17 > 0:29:21and her aunties and uncles and cousins.
0:29:21 > 0:29:25That video was probably just a little bit too much for her to bear, really.
0:29:25 > 0:29:28And I don't know if I can do that to my children.
0:29:36 > 0:29:40It was the end of the Guiles' soul-searching week in Auckland.
0:29:40 > 0:29:43They got to spend quality time together as a family.
0:29:45 > 0:29:48Simon loved spending time on the vineyard,
0:29:48 > 0:29:51but with a drastically reduced salary,
0:29:51 > 0:29:55when they did their sums, the results put the whole move in doubt.
0:29:57 > 0:30:01The heartache of leaving loved ones was too much for Izzy to bear.
0:30:03 > 0:30:06Claire and Simon faced the hardest decision of their lives.
0:30:06 > 0:30:09One moment I think, "Ooh, I could live here, it's really lovely,"
0:30:09 > 0:30:14and the next moment I think, "Oh, I couldn't live this far away from my family."
0:30:14 > 0:30:18I have moments like that and then I look around and it is stunning,
0:30:18 > 0:30:21but I wonder if we could get that somewhere else in England.
0:30:21 > 0:30:24I know for a fact that if we did move here
0:30:24 > 0:30:29that we'd all embrace the lifestyle and really enjoy ourselves,
0:30:29 > 0:30:32but I realise I might be fighting a losing battle.
0:30:32 > 0:30:34So how did they vote?
0:30:34 > 0:30:38Would the girls choose a brand new start down under?
0:30:38 > 0:30:41I've had a really good time this week,
0:30:41 > 0:30:44but I couldn't leave my family forever
0:30:44 > 0:30:48so for that reason I'm going to vote UK.
0:30:48 > 0:30:54It's nice, but I wouldn't leave my family and friends.
0:30:54 > 0:30:57I might of chosen New Zealand,
0:30:57 > 0:31:02but when I saw that video I thought, "Oh, no, UK."
0:31:02 > 0:31:05I've had a fantastic time in New Zealand, it's a beautiful country,
0:31:05 > 0:31:08the people are lovely, but I think my heart
0:31:08 > 0:31:12really, really lies in the UK.
0:31:12 > 0:31:14My final thoughts on the week,
0:31:14 > 0:31:17New Zealand would really offer us a fantastic opportunity as a family,
0:31:17 > 0:31:22with lifestyle, with work opportunities and with housing,
0:31:22 > 0:31:25but instead of these flags I really need a white flag
0:31:25 > 0:31:28to tie in with Claire, Holly and Isobel
0:31:28 > 0:31:31and I'm going to have to join them and vote for the UK.
0:31:32 > 0:31:36After adding up the emotional and financial costs,
0:31:36 > 0:31:41the Guiles decided that New Zealand wasn't the answer to their problems.
0:31:41 > 0:31:44But, two years on, have things changed at home
0:31:44 > 0:31:46or has there been a change of heart?
0:31:46 > 0:31:50It's summer 2011 and Claire and Simon with 13-year-old Holly,
0:31:50 > 0:31:54nine-year-old Izzy and toddler Amelie have moved...
0:31:54 > 0:31:57to Reading.
0:31:57 > 0:32:00Not long after they returned from New Zealand,
0:32:00 > 0:32:04they sold their cottage and are living in a new family home.
0:32:04 > 0:32:08Although the family decided not to emigrate down under,
0:32:08 > 0:32:10they seem to have moved on.
0:32:10 > 0:32:14So what's happened since we last saw them?
0:32:14 > 0:32:16The opportunity to visit New Zealand
0:32:16 > 0:32:19to look at a different way of living your life
0:32:19 > 0:32:21was really what we needed at the time
0:32:21 > 0:32:26and it cemented our decision to change our lives
0:32:26 > 0:32:29and the way we worked and saw each other.
0:32:29 > 0:32:33Sometimes we joked that we were being pulled through life by our hair.
0:32:33 > 0:32:34It was a really busy life
0:32:34 > 0:32:38and the only way could see out of this lifestyle
0:32:38 > 0:32:39was to go to New Zealand.
0:32:39 > 0:32:44- We just thought, "Get away, go..." - Start from scratch.
0:32:44 > 0:32:49Start again and have a quieter, calmer life without this rushing.
0:32:49 > 0:32:52The desire to move was motivated by a need
0:32:52 > 0:32:55to spend more time together as a family.
0:32:55 > 0:32:57So have they found that back home?
0:32:57 > 0:33:01Our trip to New Zealand taught us what was important was our family.
0:33:01 > 0:33:04It was like a week of therapy
0:33:04 > 0:33:09and it made us realise that we needed to change considerably.
0:33:09 > 0:33:11Izzy was right the whole time -
0:33:11 > 0:33:14we could do the same thing in the UK and we have.
0:33:14 > 0:33:18I think Mummy and Daddy wanted to go to New Zealand
0:33:18 > 0:33:21just to see what it's like out there really.
0:33:21 > 0:33:25And then...see if it's better there.
0:33:25 > 0:33:28But I think you could just do the same things here
0:33:28 > 0:33:36because they're both the same really except New Zealand has seaside
0:33:36 > 0:33:39and where we live, we don't.
0:33:41 > 0:33:44Although the family have found a better life without moving
0:33:44 > 0:33:46halfway around the world,
0:33:46 > 0:33:50it was Simon's job as a pub landlord that was preventing him
0:33:50 > 0:33:52from spending time with the family.
0:33:52 > 0:33:55We made a decision when we were in New Zealand
0:33:55 > 0:33:58to definitely relinquish our responsibilities at the pub
0:33:58 > 0:34:02and, from there on in, sold the house,
0:34:02 > 0:34:04moved to this property,
0:34:04 > 0:34:08then we had to change our work schedules, what we were doing,
0:34:08 > 0:34:13the job I did and the hours that Claire was doing for her work,
0:34:13 > 0:34:14to try and pay the bills.
0:34:14 > 0:34:18If it meant making a few sacrifices of things we didn't need
0:34:18 > 0:34:20like the gym membership
0:34:20 > 0:34:24and all the extras that we could afford with the pub,
0:34:24 > 0:34:27we thought let's just change our lives completely
0:34:27 > 0:34:31so that it meant we had more family time together.
0:34:31 > 0:34:36When my dad did do the pub, it was like having a single mum
0:34:36 > 0:34:43and now it's like we're actually a family again. It's good.
0:34:43 > 0:34:45Well, we always were.
0:34:45 > 0:34:46Yeah, but not.
0:34:48 > 0:34:51- We didn't see him much, did we?- No.
0:34:52 > 0:34:56SIMON: It's been brilliant for me to step into their life
0:34:56 > 0:34:59and play an active part.
0:34:59 > 0:35:05And, although I felt I wasn't a poor father before,
0:35:05 > 0:35:08I think I've been able to play a more active role
0:35:08 > 0:35:12and support more and actually understand what they do in their lives.
0:35:12 > 0:35:15Claire used to tell me but I never used to see it.
0:35:15 > 0:35:19It's better cos we do see him and then we can do this with him
0:35:19 > 0:35:23as well because we never used to do anything with him.
0:35:23 > 0:35:28We go out together on weekends and when we have dinner,
0:35:28 > 0:35:31he doesn't have to rush off.
0:35:31 > 0:35:35He can just stay and have some fun.
0:35:41 > 0:35:43The decision they made in New Zealand
0:35:43 > 0:35:46not to continue the lease on the pub
0:35:46 > 0:35:48has resolved family issues
0:35:48 > 0:35:51but it meant that Simon had to rethink his career.
0:35:51 > 0:35:56His skills working in the pub business haven't gone to waste though.
0:35:56 > 0:35:59He's landed a job working as a sales manager
0:35:59 > 0:36:01for a wine and spirit company.
0:36:01 > 0:36:05I've worked for my current company for 13 months now.
0:36:05 > 0:36:08I'm targeted to bring on new business.
0:36:08 > 0:36:10Initially I would meet a customer
0:36:10 > 0:36:15and ascertain what they want from us, in terms of supply,
0:36:15 > 0:36:18'whether it be wine, spirits.'
0:36:18 > 0:36:19Thank you very much indeed.
0:36:19 > 0:36:22I enjoy meeting new people. I enjoy working within a team.
0:36:22 > 0:36:26'There's lots of people you can talk to on a day-to-day basis
0:36:26 > 0:36:28'and there's help and resource.'
0:36:28 > 0:36:30A week on Friday, we'll collect the direct debit.
0:36:30 > 0:36:33'I work for a large company before I had my own business'
0:36:33 > 0:36:37and I was on the ladder there moving up
0:36:37 > 0:36:40and then decided to step off and do my own thing.
0:36:40 > 0:36:44So I relish the challenge that I've got in front of me
0:36:44 > 0:36:47in the next few years.
0:36:47 > 0:36:51But giving up the pub business has meant a drop in Simon's salary
0:36:51 > 0:36:54so Claire now has to work longer hours.
0:36:54 > 0:36:58Claire's salary is fairly integral in paying the bills.
0:36:58 > 0:37:01She works three days a week now rather than two afternoons
0:37:01 > 0:37:04which, for Claire...
0:37:04 > 0:37:06She'd prefer not to work
0:37:06 > 0:37:09and that's one of the downsides of what we've done.
0:37:09 > 0:37:11My life's changed quite dramatically.
0:37:11 > 0:37:14I work a lot more hours which, in an idea world,
0:37:14 > 0:37:17I wouldn't work with a toddler.
0:37:17 > 0:37:19I do have working-mum guilt
0:37:19 > 0:37:22and she might get an extra biscuit or two because I have that guilt.
0:37:22 > 0:37:28It's hard work and it's taken a few months to adjust, actually,
0:37:28 > 0:37:30to our new working lives
0:37:30 > 0:37:33but it's worked and we feel a lot happier
0:37:33 > 0:37:36and a lot closer because if it.
0:37:39 > 0:37:43It's not just Simon and Claire that have had to adjust to their new lives.
0:37:43 > 0:37:46The children have had to make sacrifices too.
0:37:46 > 0:37:49Isobel was quite upset moving out of the village of Hurst
0:37:49 > 0:37:54because it's quite a sought after place to live.
0:37:54 > 0:37:59She goes to the village school, which is a lovely school
0:37:59 > 0:38:04and she liked walking to school and living in Hurst
0:38:04 > 0:38:07and when we told her we were moving, she was upset about,
0:38:07 > 0:38:10of all things, the postcode change.
0:38:10 > 0:38:12- Yeah, she's quite a snob. - She is quite a snob.
0:38:12 > 0:38:16When we moved, I liked our old house better,
0:38:16 > 0:38:19but now I've got used to this house
0:38:19 > 0:38:22and I like it better than our old house.
0:38:22 > 0:38:23She's a bit...
0:38:23 > 0:38:27She wonders why all her friends go on skiing holidays
0:38:27 > 0:38:31and holidays to the States and things like that and we don't,
0:38:31 > 0:38:34although she understands the value of money
0:38:34 > 0:38:37and she understands that we can't afford to do that.
0:38:37 > 0:38:38We've bought a tent
0:38:38 > 0:38:41because we can't afford the expensive holidays any more.
0:38:41 > 0:38:44We've had a few camping trips.
0:38:44 > 0:38:49We've all taken up body-boarding as our new hobby because it's cheap
0:38:49 > 0:38:51and we all love it.
0:38:51 > 0:38:54We still afford what we used to afford for them.
0:38:54 > 0:38:57The only thing that's gone is the expensive holidays we used to have
0:38:57 > 0:39:00and the expensive cars and I think they'll come back in time
0:39:00 > 0:39:02if we need them to
0:39:02 > 0:39:06but at the moment we're happy going about in our tent
0:39:06 > 0:39:09and jumping about in the sea a bit, aren't we?
0:39:18 > 0:39:20The time the Guiles spent in New Zealand
0:39:20 > 0:39:23reminded them how important friends and family were
0:39:23 > 0:39:26and brought them closer together.
0:39:31 > 0:39:36New Zealand taught us that our family are really important
0:39:36 > 0:39:41and our parents and grandparents and friends.
0:39:41 > 0:39:46And, just recently, my dad's been quite poorly and...he's fine
0:39:46 > 0:39:50but all the time I'm thinking when I'm speaking to my mum
0:39:50 > 0:39:52and Dad's in hospital,
0:39:52 > 0:39:56I can pop over and see Mum and see Dad in hospital
0:39:56 > 0:39:59but if we were the other side of the world,
0:39:59 > 0:40:02I would never have been able to do that.
0:40:02 > 0:40:07Several times, things have been brought home to me in that respect.
0:40:07 > 0:40:10You couldn't visit them for your birthday
0:40:10 > 0:40:12and they couldn't come to your party
0:40:12 > 0:40:15and we'd just miss them.
0:40:16 > 0:40:21Emma? Emma? Give it to Iona please.
0:40:21 > 0:40:23There you go.
0:40:23 > 0:40:27My dad, Joan, my mum, Claire's mum and dad,
0:40:27 > 0:40:29they were all hugely supportive - 100% behind us -
0:40:29 > 0:40:32but the decision we made to stay in the UK
0:40:32 > 0:40:36really has been the decision that they're pleased with
0:40:36 > 0:40:38and ultimately we're pleased with too.
0:40:38 > 0:40:41It was their life, their opportunity
0:40:41 > 0:40:45and if they felt that opportunity was right for them
0:40:45 > 0:40:47then you've got to back them. It was a big decision
0:40:47 > 0:40:51but I'm pleased they made the decision they did.
0:40:51 > 0:40:55It's really worked out for the better, I believe, for them.
0:40:55 > 0:40:59It's certainly worked out better for us because we get to see them a lot more.
0:40:59 > 0:41:04Yeah, we see our grandparents a lot now.
0:41:04 > 0:41:06I always liked going to see my cousins
0:41:06 > 0:41:10but it's even nicer now my dad can come.
0:41:12 > 0:41:16- Cheers, chaps.- Cheers. - Cheers for Saturday's football.
0:41:18 > 0:41:20Life is better for the Guiles
0:41:20 > 0:41:23and their time in New Zealand helped them realise
0:41:23 > 0:41:25they could find what they're looking for
0:41:25 > 0:41:28without moving to the other side of the world.
0:41:28 > 0:41:33I think we've won. We've come out on top rather than before.
0:41:33 > 0:41:35We just muddled along and we were happy
0:41:35 > 0:41:38but we just didn't have the quality of time.
0:41:38 > 0:41:40Although now we do have the time but no money
0:41:40 > 0:41:43and before we had the money and no time so...
0:41:43 > 0:41:46But we can do things with no money.
0:41:48 > 0:41:51I think people rarely take a week out of their lives
0:41:51 > 0:41:53to consider what they're doing
0:41:53 > 0:41:55and New Zealand gave us the opportunity
0:41:55 > 0:42:00and the confidence that it was the right decision for us to change.
0:42:00 > 0:42:05Life is more relaxed as a family now and we have got time for each other.
0:42:05 > 0:42:09Having made our decision, we've appreciated what we've got more.
0:42:09 > 0:42:13Yeah, I think my dad's a lot happier now cos we get to see him
0:42:13 > 0:42:16and he sees my mum.
0:42:16 > 0:42:20He kind of, like... knows us better, I think.
0:42:20 > 0:42:24It sounds silly cos I've known him for 13 years and he...
0:42:24 > 0:42:28Yeah, I just feel like I KNOW him now.
0:42:30 > 0:42:37We've managed to change our lives hugely and we're in the UK.
0:42:37 > 0:42:39We didn't have to go to New Zealand
0:42:39 > 0:42:42to get away from this really busy life.
0:42:49 > 0:42:52It looks as if their week in New Zealand
0:42:52 > 0:42:57was exactly what the family needed to help them make a new start
0:42:57 > 0:43:01and, in the end, they found their answers a lot closer to home.
0:43:01 > 0:43:03But although it's not plain sailing yet,
0:43:03 > 0:43:08the Guiles are excited about their future together back in the UK.
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