Pagnini

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0:00:02 > 0:00:06Could you uproot your family and leave all your loved ones behind

0:00:06 > 0:00:10to start a new life thousands of miles away?

0:00:10 > 0:00:12What if it didn't work out?

0:00:12 > 0:00:16Could you bring yourself to try it again a second time?

0:00:16 > 0:00:19Well, that's what the Pagnini family is attempting.

0:00:19 > 0:00:26After their dream move to California turned sour, they're determined to give it another try.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28- This time for good. - We've done it once before.

0:00:28 > 0:00:30We've upset everybody.

0:00:30 > 0:00:32We've gone. We've come back.

0:00:32 > 0:00:35They have all been relieved that we're back.

0:00:35 > 0:00:38It makes this decision much more difficult.

0:00:38 > 0:00:41It's an issue that could split the family.

0:00:41 > 0:00:43Mike's mum isn't happy at all.

0:00:43 > 0:00:45I told them that time and this time, you're not going.

0:00:45 > 0:00:47If they really liked it,

0:00:47 > 0:00:50I wouldn't be happy.

0:00:50 > 0:00:55If they make the move, will they be ever able to afford to come home?

0:00:55 > 0:01:00If I move over here, I ain't going back to England unless it's a necessary thing.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02- Not to visit?- No.- Why?

0:01:02 > 0:01:05It's going to be hard. It'll be very expensive with five children.

0:01:05 > 0:01:10- All right, all right. - By the end of the week, there will be a lot of soul searching.

0:01:10 > 0:01:13I feel guilty about upsetting my family like that.

0:01:13 > 0:01:18The whole emotion they're going through at the moment is all down to us. It's all our fault.

0:01:18 > 0:01:22Make up your mind very quick, Michael and Clare, and come back to me.

0:01:46 > 0:01:50Australia is still the most popular country of residence for Brits moving abroad,

0:01:50 > 0:01:55but although they may be tempted by the sun, sea and sand,

0:01:55 > 0:01:58almost a third return home every year.

0:01:58 > 0:02:02The Pagninis may think they want to move down under,

0:02:02 > 0:02:04but have they thought it through?

0:02:04 > 0:02:07We've given them a week to see what life

0:02:07 > 0:02:13in Australia would really be like before they make one of the most important decisions of their lives.

0:02:14 > 0:02:20The Pagninis currently live in the village of Timperley on the outskirts of Manchester.

0:02:20 > 0:02:23Painter and decorator Mike shares a home with Clare and their three children,

0:02:23 > 0:02:28eight-year-old Dylan and daughters Ashley, four, and Beth who's three.

0:02:28 > 0:02:32The family have had a taste of living abroad before when Mike's dad

0:02:32 > 0:02:35who lives in California asked them to join him.

0:02:35 > 0:02:38It was about six years ago now, wasn't it?

0:02:38 > 0:02:41We moved to America and absolutely loved our life. It was fantastic,

0:02:41 > 0:02:47- the house was amazing.- With a pool. - With a pool and four bedrooms.

0:02:47 > 0:02:51Then we realised the cost of living, we hadn't really looked into

0:02:51 > 0:02:55and we found it really difficult to live in a country where

0:02:55 > 0:03:00if your children were ill, you had to think, "Can I afford to take them to the doctor?"

0:03:00 > 0:03:02They chose to return home.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05We were so excited to come home because we'd not seen everyone

0:03:05 > 0:03:08for two years and so we were like "Yes, we're going home.

0:03:08 > 0:03:09"We're going to see everyone."

0:03:09 > 0:03:12- "Kebabs!"- And we came back,

0:03:12 > 0:03:15we realised we'd made a bit of a mistake.

0:03:15 > 0:03:20- Yeah, within the first ten minutes I think it was.- Ten minutes!

0:03:21 > 0:03:25The three-bedroom terrace they rent in Greater Manchester is a far cry

0:03:25 > 0:03:29from the spacious family home and pool they had in California.

0:03:29 > 0:03:34They're desperate to be able to afford the sunny outdoor life again.

0:03:34 > 0:03:37- This is probably the last shot now. - This is the last shot.

0:03:37 > 0:03:39We know we want that kind of lifestyle.

0:03:39 > 0:03:41We're going to Australia to find it.

0:03:41 > 0:03:45Mike is dying to follow his dreams.

0:03:45 > 0:03:49I want to make it work one million per cent and I'll do anything to make it work.

0:03:49 > 0:03:54I would up and leave and go tomorrow basically,

0:03:54 > 0:04:00but my wife being the sensible one won't allow us to do that.

0:04:00 > 0:04:04With strong ties at home, Clare has serious reservations about going.

0:04:04 > 0:04:08For me, it's going to be really difficult to leave my family behind.

0:04:08 > 0:04:10I think that's probably

0:04:10 > 0:04:12the most important thing to me.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15It'll be difficult to,

0:04:15 > 0:04:21I suppose, feel so segregated from everything that's going on and I know from living abroad before

0:04:21 > 0:04:27that whenever there's a family do, if there's a wedding or a christening or a birthday,

0:04:27 > 0:04:29you feel totally left out.

0:04:29 > 0:04:37My sister and my mum are my best friends and leaving them would be really difficult. Very difficult.

0:04:37 > 0:04:40So the stakes are high for the Pagninis

0:04:40 > 0:04:46as they face a potentially life-changing upheaval yet again.

0:04:46 > 0:04:49But where in Australia should they go?

0:04:49 > 0:04:53It would be Mike's occupation that would potentially get them

0:04:53 > 0:05:00into Australia and fortunately, as a painter and decorator, his skills are needed across the country.

0:05:00 > 0:05:03They could go to Adelaide in South Australia.

0:05:03 > 0:05:08This planned open city is about half the size of London with just one eighth of its population

0:05:08 > 0:05:14offering the Pagninis that relaxed, urban lifestyle they're looking for.

0:05:14 > 0:05:18And with the average house price at over £100,000 lower than Sydney's,

0:05:18 > 0:05:22it's a cheap place like for a family like the Pagninis to get started.

0:05:24 > 0:05:31But wages are lower here too so Mike and Clare might have to work longer hours to make ends meet.

0:05:33 > 0:05:37Perhaps further east, the city of Melbourne is more appropriate as

0:05:37 > 0:05:40family incomes here are higher than the national average.

0:05:40 > 0:05:45Victoria's capital is the number one destination for sport and culture

0:05:45 > 0:05:51and could be perfect for an outgoing family like the Pagninis, but it does come at a cost.

0:05:51 > 0:05:54The property market has soared in recent years

0:05:54 > 0:05:57with the average house price one of the highest in the country.

0:05:57 > 0:06:01So Clare's dream of a massive home with a pool could be out of reach.

0:06:01 > 0:06:07And with a population of four million, could it just be too big for the Pagninis' first step?

0:06:09 > 0:06:12Maybe they'd prefer a smaller city such as Perth in Western Australia

0:06:12 > 0:06:16where again there's plenty to do for a growing family.

0:06:16 > 0:06:20Property-wise, it's not a great deal cheaper than Melbourne, but as

0:06:20 > 0:06:28Australia's fastest-growing city, it should offer plenty of work for Mike if he can handle the competition.

0:06:28 > 0:06:31One in eight residents here are British-born

0:06:31 > 0:06:36so the Pagninis should feel at home while they find their feet.

0:06:40 > 0:06:46Three good options for the family there, each with its benefits so where shall we send them?

0:06:46 > 0:06:53We decided to send the Pagninis to experience life in Melbourne for their week in Australia.

0:06:53 > 0:06:59With income playing such a crucial role for them, it's vital they go somewhere Mike can earn more.

0:06:59 > 0:07:03Whilst it's not the cheapest city for housing, there are less expensive areas

0:07:03 > 0:07:09in its growing suburbs, but can they really afford their Australian dream financially and emotionally?

0:07:09 > 0:07:12I'd be brokenhearted if they went to Australia.

0:07:12 > 0:07:14It's hard.

0:07:14 > 0:07:16That's it.

0:07:16 > 0:07:19I don't want to be going back to England after two years.

0:07:19 > 0:07:23- It's too expensive.- For him to just take it away like that

0:07:23 > 0:07:25makes me feel worse.

0:07:25 > 0:07:28I should have been a bit more sympathetic, I think.

0:07:28 > 0:07:30I'm feeling quite nervous at the moment.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33I don't know whether we'll all vote the same.

0:07:33 > 0:07:36I really need to think about whether I can leave my family again

0:07:36 > 0:07:39and put them through all of that heartache again.

0:07:44 > 0:07:50After 23 hours of flying, the family's potentially life-changing trip begins in Melbourne.

0:07:50 > 0:07:55Having crossed three continents spanning 10,500 miles,

0:07:55 > 0:07:58the reality of making such a long journey becomes clear.

0:07:58 > 0:08:01Not being able to stretch your legs.

0:08:01 > 0:08:04Not being able to move for so long.

0:08:04 > 0:08:10That's the worst. And the kids having to be sat still is just a nightmare.

0:08:10 > 0:08:14- The journey, it's the main factor in all of it.- Yeah.

0:08:14 > 0:08:17With it being halfway across the world, it's not that easy just to whizz home, is it?

0:08:17 > 0:08:20No. Clare is already feeling the pressure.

0:08:20 > 0:08:21Concerned about hating it.

0:08:21 > 0:08:25- Yeah.- I'm concerned about the journey home.- Yeah.

0:08:25 > 0:08:27Concerned about Mike hating his job.

0:08:27 > 0:08:31Concerned about it being way out of our price range and not being an

0:08:31 > 0:08:34option for us, that's probably the worst thing that could happen.

0:08:34 > 0:08:37- Well, let's see, let's hope it blows our mind, eh?- Yeah.

0:08:37 > 0:08:43Mike knows he's got his work cut out if he's to convince Clare Australia is right for them.

0:08:43 > 0:08:46Everything rides on what she thinks of where they're staying.

0:08:46 > 0:08:52This is the type of house they could afford IF they were to make the move.

0:08:52 > 0:08:56I'll shut this boot because I don't know what neighbourhood is like,

0:08:56 > 0:08:58but I know it's very warm.

0:08:58 > 0:09:00Very warm indeed.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03In a house without air conditioning, Mike's using his head to keep cool.

0:09:03 > 0:09:08You'll get a lot of people who do this - stick their head in the freezer.

0:09:09 > 0:09:12Look, this is the main bedroom.

0:09:12 > 0:09:15- Yeah, that's all right. - Yeah, nice, but there's no bath.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17- Where's the bath? - There isn't a bath.

0:09:17 > 0:09:19I've got to have a bath.

0:09:19 > 0:09:21- No, there's no bath.- Right.

0:09:21 > 0:09:25We need to get a Jacuzzi then, don't we?

0:09:25 > 0:09:26We'll have to get a Jacuzzi.

0:09:26 > 0:09:29I think we could get a better house than this.

0:09:31 > 0:09:33Maybe the garden will make amends.

0:09:33 > 0:09:35It's a really small garden.

0:09:35 > 0:09:40There's no grass. I don't like it.

0:09:40 > 0:09:43Clare has dreamed of a large garden and a pool.

0:09:43 > 0:09:47So far Australia isn't living up to her expectations.

0:09:47 > 0:09:49I'm quite disappointed really.

0:09:49 > 0:09:53I expected it to just look like California.

0:09:53 > 0:10:00- Yeah.- So I expected it to be highways with lovely scenery either side and got myself

0:10:00 > 0:10:06so hyped up about everything and I saw quite a lot of factories and graffiti and things like that.

0:10:06 > 0:10:10- It will be like that. - It makes me feel a bit gutted really.

0:10:10 > 0:10:15I'm just a bit deflated now.

0:10:15 > 0:10:17- It's early days.- I know.

0:10:17 > 0:10:21Well, I'm the pessimist, you're the optimist, so we'll see.

0:10:21 > 0:10:23Maybe you can woo me.

0:10:23 > 0:10:25I've already done that.

0:10:25 > 0:10:28Mike will have to do a lot more than a bit of wooing if he's

0:10:28 > 0:10:33to persuade Clare to leave England and her family behind again.

0:10:38 > 0:10:41Back in the UK, the Pagninis rent a three-bedroomed terraced house

0:10:41 > 0:10:45in Timperley, a village on the outskirts of Manchester.

0:10:45 > 0:10:51If they decide to move, the family will have a budget of £200,000 with a mortgage.

0:10:51 > 0:10:57But will it be enough to get that big Aussie pad and pool that Clare is dying for?

0:10:57 > 0:11:02The Pagninis' life-changing decision hinges on finances.

0:11:02 > 0:11:06And when it comes to buying a home, Melbourne offers a variety

0:11:06 > 0:11:10of lifestyle options, some more expensive than others.

0:11:10 > 0:11:11They could live in the city

0:11:11 > 0:11:14and enjoy being in the midst of all the hustle and bustle.

0:11:14 > 0:11:20Affluent central town houses can hit the 1 million mark,

0:11:20 > 0:11:22and although you're unlikely to get a pool,

0:11:22 > 0:11:25residents do benefit from having no commute to work.

0:11:25 > 0:11:28This type of place would be unaffordable for the family

0:11:28 > 0:11:33even if they got a massive mortgage so they'd be better off looking for somewhere out of town.

0:11:33 > 0:11:36The coast is popular with many young families

0:11:36 > 0:11:39and although Mike may face a long commute to work,

0:11:39 > 0:11:42Clare and the children would love lapping up the sunshine.

0:11:42 > 0:11:47Homes right on the beach can go for over 1 million.

0:11:47 > 0:11:52A short drive away, this four-bedroomed property in the trendy seaside suburb of Mordialloc

0:11:52 > 0:11:58costs £325,000 and is at the cheaper end of the market.

0:11:58 > 0:12:00Prices here have soared over recent years

0:12:00 > 0:12:02with the influx of a young, wealthy generation

0:12:02 > 0:12:07so the Pagninis would need to look further inland to accommodate their needs.

0:12:07 > 0:12:10A more realistic option would be the up-and-coming rural suburb

0:12:10 > 0:12:14of Werribee where the family are staying for their trial week.

0:12:14 > 0:12:20Despite its fast, direct links to the city, the area has retained its traditional country charm.

0:12:20 > 0:12:22Top-of-the-range properties

0:12:22 > 0:12:28like this four-bedroomed, two-bathroom Chelsea design would cost around £250,000.

0:12:28 > 0:12:34But there are plenty of houses here within the family's budget including build-your-own homes

0:12:34 > 0:12:40and with so many new developments it could be an easy place for Mike to find work as a painter.

0:12:40 > 0:12:44We're going to show the Pagninis a range of properties in this area,

0:12:44 > 0:12:48but before we do, let's just check they've settled in OK.

0:12:48 > 0:12:50Oh, no. What's happened?

0:12:50 > 0:12:58Dylan was taking a shower and slipped and hit his head on the soap dish and he's had to have four stitches.

0:12:58 > 0:13:01We had to ring an ambulance because we didn't know what to do.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04My poor baby. He frightened us to death, didn't you?

0:13:04 > 0:13:07Typical of the Pagninis.

0:13:07 > 0:13:14With Dylan all bandaged, they're finally ready to visit the three properties we've lined up for them.

0:13:14 > 0:13:19The whole move rests on whether they can find a home they love within their price range.

0:13:19 > 0:13:21So will property number one be up to

0:13:21 > 0:13:23their high standards?

0:13:23 > 0:13:27Priced at around £200,000, it's just within budget.

0:13:27 > 0:13:32After Clare's disappointment with their temporary accommodation, it's vital she likes this one.

0:13:32 > 0:13:34Fingers crossed.

0:13:34 > 0:13:38Is this the master bedroom then? I like it.

0:13:38 > 0:13:41There's a snooker table.

0:13:41 > 0:13:43This house is massive.

0:13:43 > 0:13:46It's gorgeous.

0:13:47 > 0:13:52Clare's loving it and the swimming pool has topped it off.

0:13:52 > 0:13:54But Mike's keeping very quiet.

0:13:54 > 0:13:57- How brilliant is that? - I feel like jumping in.

0:13:57 > 0:14:00I really like this house. Yeah, I do.

0:14:00 > 0:14:03There's the barbecue area and then there's the swimming area.

0:14:03 > 0:14:05I think it's perfect, what do you think, Mike?

0:14:05 > 0:14:07- No.- You don't like it?

0:14:07 > 0:14:09It's a bit too compact.

0:14:11 > 0:14:13It's too small.

0:14:13 > 0:14:15- The garden?- Yeah, it's too small.

0:14:15 > 0:14:16I want a big open plan.

0:14:16 > 0:14:20That's safe if it's locked so the kids can't get to the pool without us knowing.

0:14:20 > 0:14:24I know, but I'd like a big, open-plan so I could sit there and just watch the children play.

0:14:24 > 0:14:29This way they can be running around the corner. I want to be able to see them all.

0:14:29 > 0:14:32- OK.- I just want it structured.

0:14:32 > 0:14:36Pool and swings and things like that.

0:14:36 > 0:14:40- No, I don't like it. - 'Oh, poor Clare.'

0:14:40 > 0:14:43Just think, we could go to sleep on here.

0:14:43 > 0:14:47Right, Dylan, come on, we all need to be out of this area now, Mike.

0:14:49 > 0:14:53Just when she'd opened her eyes to what Australia could offer the family,

0:14:53 > 0:14:56Mike has demolished her hopes.

0:14:56 > 0:15:00If they can't see eye-to-eye, this move will never work.

0:15:00 > 0:15:03Perhaps they'll have better luck with the next one.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07Property two is a three bedroom show home

0:15:07 > 0:15:10situated in a newer development on the outskirts of Werribee.

0:15:10 > 0:15:13It's an example of a design-your-own property

0:15:13 > 0:15:17which should give the family an idea of what they could achieve

0:15:17 > 0:15:19for around their £200,000 budget.

0:15:19 > 0:15:21- Do you want to have a look around? - Oh, my Lord.

0:15:23 > 0:15:25Jacka-knacker-nory.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27Chicken cacciatore!

0:15:27 > 0:15:29- That's really nice.- Yeah.

0:15:29 > 0:15:30Well, we'll take this one.

0:15:31 > 0:15:33Oh, my...

0:15:34 > 0:15:37That is gorgeous.

0:15:37 > 0:15:39Let's see.

0:15:39 > 0:15:41- It's good. - And this is all standard.

0:15:43 > 0:15:46Nice, that. Just think of all the microwave meals we could make in here.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49Plenty of space for takeaways to just lay it all out. We're sorted.

0:15:49 > 0:15:52And you're supposed to be the chef.

0:15:52 > 0:15:54Well, you know.

0:15:54 > 0:15:56There's a cookbook, we can use that.

0:15:56 > 0:15:58I hope Mike will be using that cookbook,

0:15:58 > 0:16:01but at least they're singing from the same hymn sheet at last.

0:16:01 > 0:16:06I'd love a house just like this and to think as well that you'll buy

0:16:06 > 0:16:09the piece of land and then you'll basically design the whole house.

0:16:09 > 0:16:11So you've built your own house.

0:16:11 > 0:16:13There are different types of houses.

0:16:13 > 0:16:15- Yeah.- There are about eight styles of houses.

0:16:15 > 0:16:20- So you pick your style and plot of land, pick the type of house. - I think it's in here.

0:16:20 > 0:16:24Clare can't wait to check out where they'd be sleeping.

0:16:24 > 0:16:29- This is the master bedroom. - It's nice in here.

0:16:29 > 0:16:33- Lovely.- This is the Zohan room, but less with the Zohan.

0:16:33 > 0:16:36Hey, look at the size of the wardrobe.

0:16:36 > 0:16:40Outside, Clare is quick to notice what's missing.

0:16:40 > 0:16:43I bet you could fit a pool across there anyway,

0:16:43 > 0:16:48but you could always buy a bigger plot as well, couldn't you?

0:16:48 > 0:16:53Er, wait a second, this size plot is at the top of their budget - building a pool doesn't come cheap.

0:16:53 > 0:16:55Maybe fit a small pool there.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57- You've got to be kidding! - You wouldn't have much space.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00Get the ones you blow up.

0:17:00 > 0:17:03They do seem to be getting a little ahead of themselves.

0:17:03 > 0:17:09What you could do, if you had this plot of land, you could change your bedroom around so that the doors

0:17:09 > 0:17:14open out to here and have that as your seating area and then you've got all of this space for a pool.

0:17:14 > 0:17:17- All us English are bothered about is having a pool, I think.- I know.

0:17:17 > 0:17:22Finally, the Pagninis are in agreement, but they're just not thinking about the cost.

0:17:22 > 0:17:27However, if Clare was to get a full-time job, they could push up their budget.

0:17:27 > 0:17:31With this in mind, they move on to property number three,

0:17:31 > 0:17:32priced at £230,000,

0:17:32 > 0:17:34it's a little more ambitious,

0:17:34 > 0:17:38but it does have the four bedrooms the Pagninis are really after.

0:17:38 > 0:17:40There's another area here.

0:17:40 > 0:17:41That's great, isn't it?

0:17:41 > 0:17:45- Brilliant, because this is a lovely space.- Look at that plasma. - Another one!

0:17:45 > 0:17:50There maybe more space than the family are used to, but with Clare working full-time,

0:17:50 > 0:17:55they'll need to factor in the cost of childcare and try to keep their feet firmly on the ground.

0:17:55 > 0:17:57Oh, look at this.

0:17:57 > 0:18:00- Shabba.- Oh, it is really...

0:18:00 > 0:18:03This is definitely perfect.

0:18:03 > 0:18:06Look at the size of the wardrobe, Mike.

0:18:06 > 0:18:10We could put me Mum and Dad in there as a spare bedroom when they come to visit, it's that big.

0:18:10 > 0:18:14- If you say so, Clare! - It's gorgeous, isn't it? Beautiful size.- It is really nice.

0:18:14 > 0:18:16Absolutely lovely.

0:18:16 > 0:18:21As this home is out of their budget, surely they're thinking more practically now.

0:18:21 > 0:18:23So we'd have the pool sectioned off.

0:18:23 > 0:18:27- Oh, dear. - It looks pretty spacious for a pool.

0:18:27 > 0:18:29Yeah, we could get a slightly bigger plot of land than this so

0:18:29 > 0:18:33- we could have the pool as well as some extra space...- Anything else?

0:18:33 > 0:18:35And then a grass area, wouldn't we?

0:18:35 > 0:18:38We'd just have a nice grass area for the kids to play.

0:18:38 > 0:18:42I don't think you'd get any grass areas. You just get your pool.

0:18:42 > 0:18:45Surely there are more pressing concerns, finances perhaps?

0:18:45 > 0:18:49Yeah, we'd get grass. We'd have grass all there.

0:18:49 > 0:18:51And we could have grass there.

0:18:51 > 0:18:54- You can't water grass over here so you'd have to have astro-turf. - Oh, no.

0:18:54 > 0:18:58- You're not allowed to water your grass. - We'll have brown grass.

0:18:58 > 0:19:02- At least they don't think the grass is always greener. - It's nice, that house, isn't it?

0:19:02 > 0:19:06- No, I like the other house the bestest.- Do you?

0:19:06 > 0:19:11Joking aside, they desperately need to see whether the figures add up.

0:19:11 > 0:19:17Although they liked the homes overall, can they really raise the money to afford their dream place?

0:19:17 > 0:19:22I really like the third house, but in order to be able to afford that, I'd have to work,

0:19:22 > 0:19:25maybe full-time, we'd have to really look at the pros and the cons.

0:19:25 > 0:19:32So, my main concern now is that the income that we'd be entitled to will be

0:19:32 > 0:19:34a lot less than I'm expecting.

0:19:34 > 0:19:38We need to really look at what we'd earn compared to what we'd have to pay out.

0:19:38 > 0:19:43Clare's sobering up to the massive financial risk that comes with a move

0:19:43 > 0:19:47- and as it's obvious where Mike would rather be...- Down under!

0:19:47 > 0:19:51..she's starting to realise the outcome rests heavily upon her shoulders.

0:19:51 > 0:19:55I think Mike is more than happy to move over here,

0:19:55 > 0:19:59so the pressure is going to be solely on me to decide yes or no

0:19:59 > 0:20:02because I think Mike will just come.

0:20:02 > 0:20:04He's just happy to come,

0:20:04 > 0:20:08so it's going to be down to me and the family are constantly on my mind.

0:20:08 > 0:20:12At the moment, I just feel like it's cross that bridge when I come to it, I think.

0:20:12 > 0:20:14Yeah, it's hard. Very hard.

0:20:14 > 0:20:18It will take much more than a walk-in wardrobe and swimming pool

0:20:18 > 0:20:21for Clare to leave her family behind.

0:20:21 > 0:20:27For now though, they only have to decide if they prefer houses in the UK or Australia.

0:20:27 > 0:20:30This is our first taste of properties in Australia

0:20:30 > 0:20:35and compared to the properties in the UK, we're going to vote for...

0:20:35 > 0:20:37Australia.

0:20:44 > 0:20:51The Pagninis may prefer Aussie houses, but will they be able to afford the home of their dreams?

0:20:51 > 0:20:52That's a lot.

0:20:52 > 0:20:57And will Mike really convince Clare to leave her family and friends in the UK?

0:20:57 > 0:21:01I've got a very good relationship with Clare.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03She's my eldest.

0:21:06 > 0:21:08And we go everywhere together.

0:21:16 > 0:21:21The Pagninis have a dream of a great home and lifestyle down under,

0:21:21 > 0:21:23but none of this could be possible

0:21:23 > 0:21:27unless Mike is sure he can get well-paid work.

0:21:27 > 0:21:33Back in the UK, Mike takes home up to £30,000 a year as a self-employed painter and decorator.

0:21:33 > 0:21:39At the moment, I work part-time and I'd really rather be at home with the kids.

0:21:39 > 0:21:42If we were to get over there and find that there wasn't any work

0:21:42 > 0:21:45or the pay was really poor, that would be disaster.

0:21:45 > 0:21:47- Basically, we can't survive.- Yeah.

0:21:47 > 0:21:52Down under, Mike is off to see if he can bring home the bacon.

0:21:52 > 0:21:56With Clare desperate not to work in Australia, he's under added pressure to make ends meet.

0:21:56 > 0:22:03I'm a little bit apprehensive about going to work today, it's a labour of love, I guess.

0:22:03 > 0:22:07When it comes to salary and wages, I just want a competitive rate.

0:22:07 > 0:22:13Mike's here to meet local painter and decorator Bruce James who could be a useful contact.

0:22:13 > 0:22:16- All right, Mike, if you want to start this wall here.- Yep.

0:22:16 > 0:22:20Around up to the doorway and we'll see how good a job you do, mate.

0:22:20 > 0:22:24OK. Being a professional painter, I'll show you how fast I can do it.

0:22:31 > 0:22:32That looks pretty good, mate.

0:22:32 > 0:22:37We'll leave that at that and you can come and roll some doors in the bedroom if you'd like.

0:22:37 > 0:22:38OK, great.

0:22:38 > 0:22:41In the UK, Mike is self-employed.

0:22:41 > 0:22:46Moving to Australia would mean he'd have to start from the bottom again working for someone else.

0:22:46 > 0:22:50Basically, it's up to myself to meet people, get myself known,

0:22:50 > 0:22:54the wages might be a little bit less than I'm on at the moment,

0:22:54 > 0:22:56so, yeah, that's a little bit daunting.

0:22:56 > 0:23:01Meanwhile, the rest of the family are checking out Werribee town centre.

0:23:01 > 0:23:05It's vital Clare likes it as it's the type of area they could afford to live in.

0:23:05 > 0:23:11It's a real village feel to it. I feel like we're probably a bit out in the country around here,

0:23:11 > 0:23:13so it's like the village shops.

0:23:13 > 0:23:18I think I'd really prefer somewhere maybe a little bit modern.

0:23:18 > 0:23:23I'd like to have a big mall nearby and I don't think there's anything like that around here.

0:23:23 > 0:23:25I think this is the town centre and that's it.

0:23:25 > 0:23:29To afford somewhere more upmarket, Clare would definitely have to work.

0:23:29 > 0:23:32I suppose it was a pipe dream to think that Mike would earn enough

0:23:32 > 0:23:35for me to be able to stay at home and we have this great lifestyle.

0:23:35 > 0:23:38In all honestly, that's probably not possible at all.

0:23:38 > 0:23:40But there's help on hand.

0:23:40 > 0:23:45In the UK, Clare is a part-time office manager so she's got a meeting with Linda Weldon,

0:23:45 > 0:23:51a local recruitment adviser to find out more about opportunities down under.

0:23:51 > 0:23:55Is there plenty of work out there for that type of role?

0:23:55 > 0:23:57There is work out there and it's growing.

0:23:57 > 0:24:01We're finding an increase in needs coming from employers.

0:24:01 > 0:24:06Looking at salaries again depending on the range of the responsibilities,

0:24:06 > 0:24:09you're looking at anywhere from 35,000

0:24:09 > 0:24:11up to 60 plus if you wanted to,

0:24:11 > 0:24:15it just depends on size of office, responsibilities within that office.

0:24:15 > 0:24:18If that is possible, then I'm quite pleased about that.

0:24:18 > 0:24:21The fact that there is a job out there for me

0:24:21 > 0:24:24- makes it a lot better for me. - OK, excellent.

0:24:24 > 0:24:29That's good news for Clare, but it's Mike's job that really counts.

0:24:29 > 0:24:32Working for someone else would mean being paid per square metre painted

0:24:32 > 0:24:36so he'd have to put in a lot more hours than he's used to.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39What's the average wage for a painter decorator?

0:24:39 > 0:24:44- They'd probably be averaging maybe 700 bucks a week.- All right.

0:24:44 > 0:24:47You've got to go really hard if you want to make some good money.

0:24:47 > 0:24:51It's a devastating blow. Mike would be on nearly half his UK wage.

0:24:51 > 0:24:53So can you borrow us a tenner please?

0:24:53 > 0:24:55You'll need a lot more than that.

0:24:55 > 0:24:58Basically if I had work and my wife had work,

0:24:58 > 0:25:02I'm pretty sure we could afford our mortgage and get on.

0:25:02 > 0:25:05But Clare wants a four bedroom house with a pool.

0:25:05 > 0:25:08They'll never be able to pay for that.

0:25:08 > 0:25:13Mike's so desperate to make the move, he's just not facing up to reality.

0:25:13 > 0:25:14It's time to vote for work.

0:25:14 > 0:25:17It's been an eventful day. I've enjoyed it.

0:25:17 > 0:25:24I think when it comes to working over here, Australia gets my vote and now I'm off for a cold one.

0:25:24 > 0:25:26See you later.

0:25:29 > 0:25:34Mike just won't accept the consequences of a lower salary.

0:25:34 > 0:25:41But perhaps the reality will hit home when he sees how much it actually costs to live in Australia.

0:25:41 > 0:25:45We've prepared a breakdown of their UK and Australian expenses

0:25:45 > 0:25:50so the Pagninis can weigh up whether they can actually afford to live here.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53Phone and internet, 65.

0:25:53 > 0:25:54Council tax, 100.

0:25:54 > 0:25:57There's the shopping list, that's what I'm interested to see.

0:25:59 > 0:26:04Potatoes, £1.98 in the UK and it's £3.79 here.

0:26:04 > 0:26:06Shh, don't say anything.

0:26:06 > 0:26:14That's a lot. Look at the six pint milk, £2.25 and that's what in Australia?

0:26:14 > 0:26:17£8.53 for six pints of milk.

0:26:17 > 0:26:20- That is a lot. - And we use a lot of milk.

0:26:20 > 0:26:24We do. That is a lot, I'm quite shocked at that.

0:26:26 > 0:26:30If the groceries are giving them a headache, what are they going to do about Mike's salary?

0:26:30 > 0:26:34You'd earn £26,000.

0:26:34 > 0:26:37And you're earning, but that's self-employed and this is employed.

0:26:37 > 0:26:39Just put £30,000.

0:26:39 > 0:26:44No, that's what it says there. £26,000, but I would earn way more so that makes up for it anyway,

0:26:44 > 0:26:48but you see I work part-time there and that would be full-time work.

0:26:48 > 0:26:52That means Mike is no longer the main breadwinner.

0:26:52 > 0:26:54He doesn't like it.

0:26:54 > 0:26:57I'm really pleased about that. Everything seems to be going well.

0:26:57 > 0:26:58Yay!

0:26:58 > 0:27:03With both of them working full-time, not only would they have to pay for childcare,

0:27:03 > 0:27:08but their dream of a better work-life balance is over.

0:27:08 > 0:27:11So will this affect their vote?

0:27:11 > 0:27:16For the cost of living comparisons between Australia and the UK, we vote for...

0:27:19 > 0:27:21- Australia.- England.

0:27:21 > 0:27:24Why are you voting for England?

0:27:24 > 0:27:28Because I think I'd earn a lot more money in England

0:27:28 > 0:27:31and the prices of food over here's a lot more.

0:27:31 > 0:27:35But I earn more here so that's why I voted for Australia.

0:27:35 > 0:27:41- Well, I thought I'd earn more money in England, that's why I voted for England.- OK.

0:27:41 > 0:27:45The prospect of Clare having to work full-time has finally made

0:27:45 > 0:27:50Mike think practically about how much this move would actually cost.

0:27:50 > 0:27:55But he's a man of many talents and won't give up without a fight.

0:27:57 > 0:27:59Back in the UK, Mike used to be in a band,

0:27:59 > 0:28:03but for now, he's restricted to jamming in the living room.

0:28:03 > 0:28:07I used to play guitar every single day and I never put the guitar down.

0:28:07 > 0:28:11Basically, two more children came along which was goodbye, career.

0:28:11 > 0:28:17Obviously In Australia, we might get a little bit more time to do things we want to do.

0:28:17 > 0:28:22Mike is convinced he can start performing again to boost the family income.

0:28:22 > 0:28:26He's been offered a trial with a local band, but as Melbourne

0:28:26 > 0:28:30is the music capital of Australia, they won't be taking on any amateurs.

0:28:30 > 0:28:36I'm actually very excited to meet Mike and see what kind of musician he's like.

0:28:36 > 0:28:39The crowds have gathered and eagerly await their surprise guest.

0:28:39 > 0:28:42Mike's preparing to sing.

0:28:42 > 0:28:45He's a slightly little bit nervous at the moment.

0:28:45 > 0:28:48A little bit apprehensive playing in front of 300 Aussies.

0:28:48 > 0:28:54It's been a while since I've played and sang. It'll go down like a lead balloon.

0:28:54 > 0:28:58Having not performed for over 20 years this could be a disaster.

0:28:58 > 0:29:00Hello, Australia.

0:29:00 > 0:29:04As I say, I'm contemplating on moving with my wife and family

0:29:04 > 0:29:11over here to this great country and whilst I've been on my journey, I've penned a small song.

0:29:11 > 0:29:14So hopefully you might like it. Thank you.

0:29:14 > 0:29:16HE PLAYS AND STOPS

0:29:16 > 0:29:19Sorry, me guitar strap's broke!

0:29:19 > 0:29:21I will have a stool, though.

0:29:21 > 0:29:23- Sorry about that. - I'll get you a stool.

0:29:31 > 0:29:32# I fell in love

0:29:34 > 0:29:36# A place called Australia

0:29:39 > 0:29:41# I fell in love

0:29:43 > 0:29:45# Well, then my wife did, too

0:29:47 > 0:29:51# It never rains

0:29:51 > 0:29:53# Your sun is always shining

0:29:57 > 0:30:00# Here's a song

0:30:00 > 0:30:02# It's for the kangaroo

0:30:04 > 0:30:08# I left my heart

0:30:08 > 0:30:12# It was in the north of England... #

0:30:15 > 0:30:17It looks like he's a hit.

0:30:17 > 0:30:19Nice one, mate. Cheers.

0:30:19 > 0:30:22Thank you for listening. It's a great experience.

0:30:22 > 0:30:25A great experience indeed. They were a really nice band.

0:30:25 > 0:30:30They mentioned if I was ever in the area, to go and give them a call, look them up.

0:30:30 > 0:30:34Mike has made some good local contacts, but music and money aside,

0:30:34 > 0:30:37Clare's got other things on her mind.

0:30:37 > 0:30:45It's so far away from home and leaving all of our family behind, that is the worst thing

0:30:45 > 0:30:47- so I don't even want to think about that.- Yeah.

0:30:50 > 0:30:54Having moved abroad before, the Pagninis are all too aware

0:30:54 > 0:30:58of the emotional heartache of being separated from loved ones.

0:30:58 > 0:31:02For Clare, this move rests on whether she can bring herself

0:31:02 > 0:31:06to leave them behind for the second time.

0:31:06 > 0:31:08We've gone. We've come back.

0:31:08 > 0:31:14They have all been relieved that we're back and now we're going to do it to them all over again.

0:31:14 > 0:31:18So it makes this decision much more difficult

0:31:18 > 0:31:24and it makes this move more important because we are now

0:31:24 > 0:31:27sort of responsible for everyone else as well.

0:31:27 > 0:31:30We have to make sure that...

0:31:30 > 0:31:34if we do this to them again, it's going to be for good.

0:31:34 > 0:31:39We've prepared some messages from friends and family back in the UK.

0:31:41 > 0:31:43Hello, Clare and Michael.

0:31:43 > 0:31:46Dylan, Ashley and Beth.

0:31:46 > 0:31:48Hope you're having a lovely time.

0:31:48 > 0:31:52We're really missing you and we can't wait for you to get back home.

0:31:52 > 0:31:54Clare is...

0:31:54 > 0:31:56Mike's lifeline.

0:31:56 > 0:32:00There was nobody in the world who could have stuck with Michael

0:32:00 > 0:32:03with his personality and him being so wild.

0:32:03 > 0:32:06He had to have somebody, like Clare, who was very grounded.

0:32:06 > 0:32:11Fantastic person. Always been there for all of us.

0:32:11 > 0:32:16She rings me at least 12 times a day.

0:32:16 > 0:32:18The phone goes all the time.

0:32:18 > 0:32:21We don't have to look, we know it's Clare that's ringing.

0:32:22 > 0:32:25I've got a very good relationship with Clare.

0:32:26 > 0:32:28She's my eldest.

0:32:30 > 0:32:32And we go everywhere together.

0:32:37 > 0:32:39Michael is a good son.

0:32:39 > 0:32:41Very caring.

0:32:41 > 0:32:44I've been on my own a long, long time

0:32:44 > 0:32:49and I do see him quite a lot really and this is the thing.

0:32:49 > 0:32:55If they go to Australia and they really like it, it's me that's going to be...

0:32:55 > 0:32:57left, you know what I mean?

0:32:57 > 0:33:00I'd be brokenhearted if they went to Australia.

0:33:00 > 0:33:02It's hard.

0:33:02 > 0:33:03That's it.

0:33:06 > 0:33:10When she said they were thinking about going to Australia,

0:33:10 > 0:33:12I was gutted as I say, you know,

0:33:12 > 0:33:16when they went to California, we missed them terribly and when they said

0:33:16 > 0:33:23they were coming back, we were over the moon and now she's thinking about maybe going away again

0:33:23 > 0:33:26and it's just bringing it all back how to keep in contact with her

0:33:26 > 0:33:30and missing the kids growing up and her missing my kids growing up.

0:33:30 > 0:33:37I told them that time and this time, "you're not going", but they took no notice of me.

0:33:37 > 0:33:41And then the children come up, "We're going to Australia, Nana". I said no, you're not.

0:33:41 > 0:33:45They said, "Yeah, we're going to Australia, Nana." I said, "Are you?

0:33:45 > 0:33:50- "Well, what about me?" - They would leave a big gap if they decided to go to Australia, yeah.

0:33:50 > 0:33:54A big gap, as Clare's my only sister.

0:33:54 > 0:33:59My life would be horrible. I love seeing the children.

0:33:59 > 0:34:04I love to see them grow up and I'd miss Michael and Clare because they do look after me in lots of ways.

0:34:04 > 0:34:08If, when they got there,

0:34:08 > 0:34:12in Australia, and they really liked it, I'd like for them to stay.

0:34:16 > 0:34:18I wouldn't be happy,

0:34:18 > 0:34:23but I'd like them to stay if that's what they wanted.

0:34:23 > 0:34:28I know it's selfish, but I do love you with all my heart, especially the children

0:34:28 > 0:34:33so make up your mind very quick, Michael and Clare, and come back to me.

0:34:33 > 0:34:35I love you. Bye.

0:34:35 > 0:34:40I hope you've enjoyed doing everything that you wanted to do...

0:34:42 > 0:34:44..and...

0:34:44 > 0:34:51I don't know what your decision will be, but whatever you choose to do, it's fine by me.

0:34:51 > 0:34:54It's not.

0:34:54 > 0:34:57Have a lovely time and...

0:34:57 > 0:34:59hope to see you soon.

0:34:59 > 0:35:01We'll be coming to see you.

0:35:01 > 0:35:04OK, my darlings?

0:35:04 > 0:35:05Bye.

0:35:09 > 0:35:12I'd never live in Australia without my family.

0:35:12 > 0:35:17- I think you'd enjoy it, son. - No.- You would.- No.

0:35:17 > 0:35:19I feel guilty that

0:35:19 > 0:35:23they're all sat there upset and...

0:35:23 > 0:35:26that whole feeling

0:35:26 > 0:35:32and the whole emotion that they're going through at the moment is all down to us. It's all our fault.

0:35:32 > 0:35:35So, yeah, I feel guilty about that.

0:35:35 > 0:35:41If I move over here, I ain't going back to England unless it's a necessary thing.

0:35:41 > 0:35:45- Not to visit.- No.- Why?- No point.

0:35:45 > 0:35:46What do you mean there's no point?

0:35:46 > 0:35:49Because we've lived there all my life. It's too expensive.

0:35:49 > 0:35:51The journey, you know what the journey's like.

0:35:51 > 0:35:54Yeah, but we've got family there, Mike.

0:35:54 > 0:35:58If you feel like you want to keep going back to England every...

0:35:58 > 0:36:02two years, you know, it's just going to cost us fortunes, isn't it?

0:36:02 > 0:36:05Yes, but when we lived in America,

0:36:05 > 0:36:09we needed to come back to get rid of that homesickness feeling to be able to carry on.

0:36:09 > 0:36:12It would have to be a joint decision anyway, but mine personally,

0:36:12 > 0:36:15I don't want to be going back to England after two years.

0:36:15 > 0:36:20- It's going to be hard, it'll be very expensive with five children. - OK, all right, all right.

0:36:20 > 0:36:23- I'm not putting a dampener on it for you, am I?- Yeah, you are.

0:36:23 > 0:36:26Whether we came back to visit after the first year or two or not,

0:36:26 > 0:36:31the fact that I think I'd be able to makes me feel better.

0:36:31 > 0:36:35For him to just take it away like that

0:36:35 > 0:36:36makes me feel worse.

0:36:36 > 0:36:40- Did that upset you, me saying that?- Yeah.

0:36:40 > 0:36:42I'm just showing you reality.

0:36:42 > 0:36:44I don't know now.

0:36:44 > 0:36:50It might seem cruel, but flights visiting home for a family of five aren't cheap.

0:36:50 > 0:36:53- You don't want to move to Australia then?- No.- No?

0:36:53 > 0:36:59If Mike and Clare can't see eye to eye on this, they won't be able to make the move.

0:36:59 > 0:37:02What upset Clare was, well, obviously seeing her mother.

0:37:02 > 0:37:06Her mother was crying and Clare was crying

0:37:06 > 0:37:13and she'd miss her mother and her father and her sister and brother and you know,

0:37:13 > 0:37:17and I should've been a bit more sympathetic, I think,

0:37:17 > 0:37:22and saying when I was trying to be a bit more pragmatic, I think I should've...

0:37:22 > 0:37:29just gone along and said yeah, you can fly home any time you want, but I think after...

0:37:29 > 0:37:34a year, she'd just get used to it but I just let her think what she wants to think.

0:37:37 > 0:37:42Seeing messages from loved ones has made the Pagninis confront the harsh reality

0:37:42 > 0:37:47that they may never be able to afford to return home.

0:37:47 > 0:37:53Mike has one last shot at convincing Clare the sacrifice is worth it.

0:37:53 > 0:37:57- Whoo!- Australia's Torquay Beach is a hotspot for surfing,

0:37:57 > 0:38:00but it's also safe and protected for young families.

0:38:00 > 0:38:04I think if we were to move over to Australia, we'd want to live

0:38:04 > 0:38:07within 30 minutes' drive of a place like this, definitely.

0:38:07 > 0:38:11Dylan gets straight in there and makes new friends.

0:38:11 > 0:38:14So here's what you've got to do, when you're out on the waves,

0:38:14 > 0:38:15when the wave's coming in

0:38:15 > 0:38:18and before it starts to curl up,

0:38:18 > 0:38:23turn around and then you just push off and sail.

0:38:23 > 0:38:28If you get caught in a rip, make sure you swim parallel to the beach and keep up with it.

0:38:28 > 0:38:31- I'm a little bit nervous. - I'll look after you.

0:38:33 > 0:38:35You know Dylan would be...

0:38:35 > 0:38:38Oh, he'd be in his element living here, he really would.

0:38:38 > 0:38:40I don't think he realises how much he would love it.

0:38:40 > 0:38:43Dylan's like a professional already, for his first time.

0:38:43 > 0:38:47- He caught the best waves. - It's the best thing I've ever done.

0:38:47 > 0:38:52I just feel like going back into the sea and doing it over and over and over and over again.

0:38:54 > 0:38:57For Mike, his experiences in Australia have opened new horizons.

0:38:57 > 0:39:00It's just something out this world.

0:39:00 > 0:39:02It's quite surreal, actually. It's a beautiful place.

0:39:02 > 0:39:07I think it's hit home, this could be a reality of life for us and, yeah, it's emotional.

0:39:07 > 0:39:11But will the rest of the family agree? It's time to vote.

0:39:11 > 0:39:14We've had a fantastic day at the beach today

0:39:14 > 0:39:21and for the Oz lifestyle and the British lifestyle we're going to vote for...

0:39:21 > 0:39:25- Australia.- Australia!

0:39:25 > 0:39:29Clare may have voted for the Australian lifestyle,

0:39:29 > 0:39:34but is a beach really going to be enough to persuade her to leave her family behind

0:39:34 > 0:39:37and possibly never see them again?

0:39:37 > 0:39:40It's nearly time for the final vote.

0:39:40 > 0:39:45The Pagnini family have emigrated before to California,

0:39:45 > 0:39:50but when it got too expensive, they returned to the UK, only to get itchy feet again.

0:39:50 > 0:39:53- This is probably the last shot now. - This is.

0:39:53 > 0:39:56- Yeah.- We know we want that kind of lifestyle.

0:39:56 > 0:39:58We're going to Australia to find it.

0:39:58 > 0:40:03Yet when they touched down in Australia, things were far from rosy for Clare.

0:40:03 > 0:40:07After being here for about an hour, I felt like we'd made a mistake.

0:40:07 > 0:40:11It was too far away. Why were we even doing this to ourselves?

0:40:11 > 0:40:17The journey is so horrific and it takes such a toll on you

0:40:17 > 0:40:21that it just made me feel like I was just wasting my time.

0:40:21 > 0:40:26And when they discovered Mike's salary would be nearly halved down under, not only was their dream home

0:40:26 > 0:40:32out of reach, but they had to face up to the prospect of never having the funds to return to the UK.

0:40:32 > 0:40:37Personally, I don't want to be going back to England after two years, it's too expensive.

0:40:37 > 0:40:40For him to just take it away like that

0:40:40 > 0:40:42makes me feel worse.

0:40:42 > 0:40:48Clare's family back home means everything to her. Can she really say goodbye to them forever?

0:40:48 > 0:40:51Watching the DVDs is very upsetting.

0:40:51 > 0:40:56It's not nice to see your family members upset and to know

0:40:56 > 0:40:59that it's your fault, that they're upset, makes it even worse.

0:40:59 > 0:41:06If anything, you just want your whole family to come with you and enjoy and see all this.

0:41:06 > 0:41:10This is a massive decision for me and Mike,

0:41:10 > 0:41:16but I think Mike's mind may already be made up so I think the pressure's on me to...

0:41:16 > 0:41:18make the same decision as him!

0:41:18 > 0:41:20After watching the videos today,

0:41:21 > 0:41:26there could be a possible chance that she could vote back for England, yeah.

0:41:26 > 0:41:29I'm feeling quite nervous at the moment.

0:41:29 > 0:41:31I don't know whether we're all going to vote the same.

0:41:33 > 0:41:39I've loved my time in Australia, but I think I really need to think about whether I can leave my family again

0:41:39 > 0:41:45and put them through all of that heartache again so it's going to be a difficult decision for me, I think.

0:41:48 > 0:41:52The whole family's future now rests heavily on Clare's shoulders.

0:41:52 > 0:41:54It's time for the final vote.

0:41:54 > 0:41:56What will she decide?

0:41:56 > 0:42:00Well, it's the end of a beautiful week in Australia. We've had a really good time.

0:42:00 > 0:42:07We've all enjoyed ourselves, but it's time to vote now and we're going to vote for...

0:42:07 > 0:42:09- Australia!- Australia!

0:42:09 > 0:42:11Clare has decided to go for it.

0:42:11 > 0:42:14The kids have loved it. Me and Mike have loved it.

0:42:14 > 0:42:17This decision is ours. It's about OUR lives.

0:42:17 > 0:42:19It's going to be what's best for me, Mike and the kids.

0:42:19 > 0:42:22But Dylan's going to take a little more persuading.

0:42:22 > 0:42:26I want to stay in England because, well,

0:42:26 > 0:42:30I'll miss my family for a long time and I'll miss all my friends,

0:42:30 > 0:42:37but I'm pretty sure I'll have a lot fun in Australia and I can't wait to go in the sea again.

0:42:37 > 0:42:39Whoo!

0:42:39 > 0:42:42I know what once we got him here, he'd be glad that we made that decision.

0:42:42 > 0:42:46I mean, look at him. He absolutely loves it.

0:42:46 > 0:42:49The Pagninis' journey has shown the financial,

0:42:49 > 0:42:53as well as emotional cost of moving to the other side of the world.

0:42:53 > 0:42:57Clare has made a brave decision for her family's future.

0:42:57 > 0:43:00Let's hope it works out for them.

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