Good Night, and Good Luck

0:00:25 > 0:00:28PEOPLE CHATTER

0:00:28 > 0:00:30ELEGANT, DREAMY JAZZ PLAYS

0:02:27 > 0:02:31In 1935, Ed Murrow began his career with CBS.

0:02:31 > 0:02:34When World War II broke out, it was his voice

0:02:34 > 0:02:36that brought the Battle of Britain home to us

0:02:36 > 0:02:38through his This Is London radio series.

0:02:38 > 0:02:42He started with us all, many of us here tonight,

0:02:42 > 0:02:44when television was in its infancy,

0:02:44 > 0:02:46with the news documentary show See It Now.

0:02:46 > 0:02:48He threw stones at giants.

0:02:48 > 0:02:52Segregation, exploitation of migrant workers,

0:02:52 > 0:02:55apartheid, J Edgar Hoover,

0:02:55 > 0:02:57not the least of which,

0:02:57 > 0:03:00his historical fight with Senator McCarthy.

0:03:00 > 0:03:04He is the host of our enormously popular show Person To Person.

0:03:04 > 0:03:05And tonight,

0:03:05 > 0:03:09he is here with his son Casey, wife Janet,

0:03:09 > 0:03:12and all of you who he's worked with, inspired,

0:03:12 > 0:03:15lectured and taught.

0:03:15 > 0:03:17Ladies and gentlemen,

0:03:17 > 0:03:19the Radio-Television News Directors

0:03:19 > 0:03:21Association & Foundation welcomes

0:03:21 > 0:03:23Mr Edward R Murrow.

0:03:23 > 0:03:26APPLAUSE

0:03:43 > 0:03:45This might just do nobody any good.

0:03:45 > 0:03:47At the end of this discourse,

0:03:47 > 0:03:49a few people may accuse this reporter

0:03:49 > 0:03:51of fouling his own comfortable nest,

0:03:51 > 0:03:54and your organisation may be accused

0:03:54 > 0:03:55of having given hospitality

0:03:55 > 0:03:58to heretical and even dangerous ideas.

0:03:58 > 0:04:01But the elaborate structure of networks,

0:04:01 > 0:04:03advertising agencies and sponsors

0:04:03 > 0:04:05will not be shaken or altered.

0:04:05 > 0:04:07It is my desire, if not my duty,

0:04:07 > 0:04:09to try to talk to you journeymen with some candour

0:04:09 > 0:04:12about what is happening to radio and television.

0:04:12 > 0:04:14And if what I say is responsible,

0:04:14 > 0:04:18I alone am responsible for the saying of it.

0:04:18 > 0:04:20Our history will be what we make of it.

0:04:20 > 0:04:25And if there are any historians about 50 or 100 years from now,

0:04:25 > 0:04:27and there should be preserved the kinescopes

0:04:27 > 0:04:29of one week of all three networks,

0:04:29 > 0:04:31they will there find,

0:04:31 > 0:04:33recorded in black and white and in colour,

0:04:33 > 0:04:36evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation

0:04:36 > 0:04:39from the realities of the world in which we live.

0:04:39 > 0:04:44We are currently wealthy, fat, comfortable and complacent.

0:04:44 > 0:04:45We have a built-in allergy

0:04:45 > 0:04:48to unpleasant or disturbing information.

0:04:48 > 0:04:50Our mass media reflect this.

0:04:50 > 0:04:53But unless we get up off our fat surpluses

0:04:53 > 0:04:55and recognise that television in the main

0:04:55 > 0:05:00is being used to distract, delude, amuse and insulate us,

0:05:00 > 0:05:02then television and those who finance it,

0:05:02 > 0:05:05those who look at it and those who work at it,

0:05:05 > 0:05:08may see a totally different picture too late.

0:05:09 > 0:05:11MUSIC: "TV Is The Thing This Year" by Dianne Reeves

0:05:11 > 0:05:12# If you wanna have fun come home with me

0:05:12 > 0:05:16# You can stay all night and play with my TV

0:05:16 > 0:05:19# TV is the thing this year

0:05:19 > 0:05:22# TV is the thing this year

0:05:22 > 0:05:24# Radio was great but it's out-of-date

0:05:24 > 0:05:27# TV is the thing this year

0:05:27 > 0:05:30# Last night I was watchin' ol' Tom Mix

0:05:30 > 0:05:33# My TV broke I was in a fix

0:05:33 > 0:05:36# I got on the phone I called my man

0:05:36 > 0:05:39# Said, "Get here, Daddy as fast as you can

0:05:39 > 0:05:41# TV is the thing this year

0:05:41 > 0:05:45# TV is the thing this year

0:05:45 > 0:05:48# Radio was great but it's out-of-date

0:05:48 > 0:05:50# TV is the thing this year. #

0:05:52 > 0:05:54Up until a year ago... - Millie.

0:05:54 > 0:05:55..he was typing with one finger.

0:05:55 > 0:05:57Millie, just the person I wanted to see. Come here.

0:06:01 > 0:06:06# Yeah TV is the thing this year... #

0:06:06 > 0:06:08This needs to go to the top of the Roy Campanella piece.

0:06:08 > 0:06:10Gimme about a half an hour. Half an hour?

0:06:10 > 0:06:12No, I need it quicker than that. Can I get a cup of coffee first?

0:06:12 > 0:06:15Please. Come on. Oh, get me a cup of coffee.

0:06:16 > 0:06:17Mornin', Johnny.

0:06:17 > 0:06:19Oh, m... I have some new notes

0:06:19 > 0:06:20that go with the Tito footage for Fred.

0:06:20 > 0:06:23- Fred's not in for about an hour. - I already put 'em on his desk.

0:06:23 > 0:06:26Can you just make sure that... he doesn't look at the film

0:06:26 > 0:06:28until he reads the notes? Thank you.

0:06:28 > 0:06:30Hey, Joe, Shirley.

0:06:30 > 0:06:32- Hey. - John.

0:06:32 > 0:06:33What's goin' on in here?

0:06:33 > 0:06:34JOE: What do you mean?

0:06:34 > 0:06:36Two attractive people alone in the copy room.

0:06:36 > 0:06:38Don't tell Paley, he'll fire me. Both of us, Shirley.

0:06:38 > 0:06:40We'll see. Rules are made to be broken.

0:06:40 > 0:06:42You can afford to say that. JOHN LAUGHS

0:06:45 > 0:06:47QUIETLY: Let me see this.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53It's simply a loyalty oath. To CBS?

0:06:53 > 0:06:54And to America.

0:06:54 > 0:06:55You promise to be a loyal American?

0:06:55 > 0:06:57All of the reporters have signed this.

0:06:57 > 0:06:59Who are you promising this to? CBS, Paley?

0:06:59 > 0:07:00Fred signed it. Murrow signed it.

0:07:00 > 0:07:02Murrow signed it. Murrow signed it? Yeah.

0:07:04 > 0:07:06"Are you now or have you ever been...?"

0:07:06 > 0:07:08I thought it was a joke, but there's a lot of pressure.

0:07:08 > 0:07:09"...that appear on the Attorney General's list

0:07:09 > 0:07:11of subversive groups"? I don't know.

0:07:11 > 0:07:13Let's think. What is it really saying?

0:07:13 > 0:07:16Is it a civil-liberties issue or censorship?

0:07:16 > 0:07:18I'm simply stating to CBS that I'm not a communist.

0:07:18 > 0:07:21Murrow signed this? Yeah. And Fred and Stanton.

0:07:21 > 0:07:22Well, maybe you should talk to Murrow.

0:07:22 > 0:07:24Maybe I should sign it.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27If you...if you don't sign this, are you and I a target?

0:07:30 > 0:07:32If I don't sign it, they'll fire me.

0:07:38 > 0:07:39Sign it.

0:07:39 > 0:07:42Finally, we can tell everyone the truth.

0:07:42 > 0:07:44KEEFE (ON TV): If I could express it

0:07:44 > 0:07:46in what's in my heart right now,

0:07:46 > 0:07:50I'd do it in the terms of the poet who once said:

0:07:50 > 0:07:54"Ah, tis but a dainty flower I bring to you

0:07:54 > 0:07:59"yes, tis but a violet glistening with dew

0:07:59 > 0:08:04"but still in its heart there lie beauties concealed

0:08:04 > 0:08:07"so in our heart

0:08:07 > 0:08:09"our love for you

0:08:09 > 0:08:13"lies unrevealed".

0:08:13 > 0:08:16You know, I used to...

0:08:22 > 0:08:26..pride myself on the idea that I was a bit...

0:08:26 > 0:08:28tough.

0:08:28 > 0:08:32Especially over the past...

0:08:32 > 0:08:3618 or 19 months, when we've been kicked around

0:08:36 > 0:08:39and bullwhipped and damned.

0:08:39 > 0:08:41I didn't think that...

0:08:42 > 0:08:46..I could be touched very deeply...

0:08:46 > 0:08:48FRIENDLY: OK, that's enough. That's enough, Leo.

0:08:48 > 0:08:50How long is the piece? What's it at now, Millie?

0:08:50 > 0:08:52It's about four minutes now, but we can cut it down.

0:08:52 > 0:08:53PALMER: It can't stand alone,

0:08:53 > 0:08:55but it might be a nice companion piece.

0:08:55 > 0:08:57Let's go through this one more time. Palmer?

0:08:57 > 0:09:00Yep. Got a call from the office of Senator Morse this morning.

0:09:00 > 0:09:02Interested in setting up a debate,

0:09:02 > 0:09:05possibly with Senator Kerr, over some of the comments

0:09:05 > 0:09:06Benson made on last night's show.

0:09:06 > 0:09:09Secretary of Agriculture. I think that's a good idea.

0:09:09 > 0:09:10Can they do it by this week?

0:09:10 > 0:09:12No, it would have to be two weeks at the earliest,

0:09:12 > 0:09:13depending on Morse's schedule.

0:09:13 > 0:09:15But, uh, still think it's a great idea.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17Let's follow up on that.

0:09:17 > 0:09:19The "Hoover speaks on Benjamin Franklin" piece?

0:09:19 > 0:09:22Well, we re having better luck with Mr Benjamin Franklin

0:09:22 > 0:09:23than we are with Mr Hoover.

0:09:23 > 0:09:25It may progress better as a person-to-person.

0:09:25 > 0:09:28"At home with Ben Franklin." His electricity awards...

0:09:28 > 0:09:29ZOUSMER: We've got the footage. They need to contact him.

0:09:29 > 0:09:31FRIENDLY: See if you can get in touch with him

0:09:31 > 0:09:33and get the shot, he wants to do the story. Joe?

0:09:33 > 0:09:35Remember, Delbert Clark, no longer with us.

0:09:35 > 0:09:36FRIENDLY: New York Times?

0:09:36 > 0:09:38Right, our friend at The Times. WILLIAMS: When?

0:09:38 > 0:09:40This is yesterday morning. They're saying it's, uh...

0:09:40 > 0:09:42How old was he? 53.

0:09:42 > 0:09:44Illness. Uh, sudden illness.

0:09:44 > 0:09:47Home of a friend. No, it's not an obit piece.

0:09:47 > 0:09:49Natalie, send some flowers over there from CBS news.

0:09:49 > 0:09:52Couple things: "Case before the supreme court

0:09:52 > 0:09:53"involving the constitutionality

0:09:53 > 0:09:55"of a section of the internal security act

0:09:55 > 0:09:58"provides for the deportation of any alien

0:09:58 > 0:10:01"if he becomes a communist after entering this country."

0:10:01 > 0:10:03No takers? WOMAN LAUGHS, MOCK SNORING

0:10:03 > 0:10:05"McCarthy interrupting his wedding trip

0:10:05 > 0:10:06"to take charge of the investigation

0:10:06 > 0:10:08"of communist infiltration."

0:10:08 > 0:10:09FRIENDLY: Natalie, send some flowers.

0:10:09 > 0:10:12Poor Mrs McCarthy. May I finish?

0:10:12 > 0:10:14It's national security. A real ladies' man.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16SCOTT: Well, they're in love. They're in love.

0:10:16 > 0:10:18FRIENDLY: We have no show for Tuesday, fellas.

0:10:18 > 0:10:20So get out there and make some news.

0:10:20 > 0:10:25Rob a bank. Mug an old lady. Do something.

0:10:25 > 0:10:27You guys look at the Secretary Stevens footage?

0:10:27 > 0:10:29Watch it all the way to the end. It's worth it.

0:10:31 > 0:10:33Thank you, John.

0:10:33 > 0:10:35There's not much there.

0:10:35 > 0:10:38I can tie it to the "Eisenhower in the back of the train" piece.

0:10:38 > 0:10:41You ever spend any time in Detroit, Fred?

0:10:41 > 0:10:43Not recently.

0:10:43 > 0:10:45There s a story here in The Detroit News,

0:10:45 > 0:10:46Dexter, Michigan.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49Kid named Milo Radulovich.

0:10:50 > 0:10:52Italian? Irish.

0:10:52 > 0:10:53Air Force kicked him out

0:10:53 > 0:10:56because his dad read some Serbian newspaper.

0:10:56 > 0:10:58His dad a communist? I don't know.

0:10:58 > 0:11:00Who brought the charges? Air Force.

0:11:00 > 0:11:03Charges were in a sealed envelope.

0:11:03 > 0:11:04Nobody saw them. Not even at the hearing?

0:11:04 > 0:11:07He was declared guilty without a trial

0:11:07 > 0:11:08and told, if he wanted to keep his job,

0:11:08 > 0:11:11he had to denounce his father and his sister.

0:11:11 > 0:11:12Thank you, Natalie.

0:11:12 > 0:11:13His sister?

0:11:13 > 0:11:15Yeah, he told them to take a hike.

0:11:16 > 0:11:18Let's send Joe and Charlie down there,

0:11:18 > 0:11:19see if he s any good on camera.

0:11:19 > 0:11:21Is he being brought before the Committee?

0:11:21 > 0:11:23No.

0:11:24 > 0:11:26Then it's not McCarthy.

0:11:27 > 0:11:28Isn't it?

0:11:34 > 0:11:36Milo Radulovich.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41WERSHBA: What happens to your children...

0:11:41 > 0:11:43that is, your five-year-old and your five-month-old...

0:11:43 > 0:11:45..in terms of you? Yes, if I am being judged

0:11:45 > 0:11:48on my relatives, if...

0:11:48 > 0:11:53Are my children going to be asked to denounce me?

0:11:53 > 0:11:54Are they going to be judged

0:11:54 > 0:11:57on what their father was labelled?

0:11:57 > 0:11:59Are they going to...

0:11:59 > 0:12:02have to explain to their friends, et cetera,

0:12:02 > 0:12:05why their father is a security risk?

0:12:05 > 0:12:08If...if...if the thing is let stand as...

0:12:08 > 0:12:12as the first recommendation was sent out by the board,

0:12:12 > 0:12:13I see a chain reaction

0:12:13 > 0:12:18that has no end to anybody for anybody.

0:12:23 > 0:12:25Well, that's new.

0:12:25 > 0:12:27I don't think you can call this a neutral piece.

0:12:27 > 0:12:29The other side's been represented well

0:12:29 > 0:12:30for the last couple years.

0:12:30 > 0:12:31We tried to talk to the Air Force.

0:12:31 > 0:12:33They haven't gone on the record. You just want to forego

0:12:33 > 0:12:34the standards you've stuck to for 15 years?

0:12:34 > 0:12:37Both sides, no commentary. We all editorialise...

0:12:37 > 0:12:39I'm just identifying what you're both doing.

0:12:39 > 0:12:41We're giving them the information up front,

0:12:41 > 0:12:43and asking them to comment. Hold on, Fred.

0:12:43 > 0:12:45I've searched my conscience.

0:12:45 > 0:12:49I can't for the life of me find any justification for this.

0:12:49 > 0:12:52And I simply cannot accept that there are, on every story,

0:12:52 > 0:12:54two equal and logical sides to an argument.

0:12:54 > 0:12:56Call it editorialising if you'd like.

0:12:56 > 0:12:58It is editorialising, Ed. They'll have equal time.

0:12:58 > 0:13:01Do you understand the position you're putting us in?

0:13:01 > 0:13:02We are all in this together.

0:13:02 > 0:13:03If the senate wants to investigate...

0:13:03 > 0:13:06Do me this favour, Fred. Avoid any big speeches

0:13:06 > 0:13:08about how we're all in a big boat together, OK?

0:13:08 > 0:13:10Please don't insult me.

0:13:10 > 0:13:11I have to go back to Mr Paley,

0:13:11 > 0:13:15and Alcoa, who sponsors your show

0:13:15 > 0:13:17and also happens to have some military contracts,

0:13:17 > 0:13:18and I have to tell them

0:13:18 > 0:13:20that they're going to be in a bit of a tough bind

0:13:20 > 0:13:22because of a beef you had with Joe McCarthy.

0:13:22 > 0:13:23We're not going at McCarthy.

0:13:23 > 0:13:25Well, you're starting the goddamn fire.

0:13:25 > 0:13:26NATALIE: Excuse me, gentlemen.

0:13:26 > 0:13:28Mr Friendly, there's a Colonel Anderson to see you.

0:13:28 > 0:13:31Colonel? Yeah, he's in your office.

0:13:31 > 0:13:32How many? There's two of them.

0:13:33 > 0:13:36Maybe they liked the transcript and want to compliment us on it.

0:13:37 > 0:13:38Excuse me.

0:13:46 > 0:13:49Go after Joe Kennedy. We'll pay for it.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51I've got a great story about Hoover.

0:13:54 > 0:13:56Ah, well... You know how many Person To Persons

0:13:56 > 0:13:58you're going to have to do to make up for this?

0:13:58 > 0:14:00Judy and her daughter Liza next week.

0:14:00 > 0:14:02No, no, no. You're interviewing Rin Tin Tin.

0:14:07 > 0:14:09I'll talk to Mr Paley.

0:14:11 > 0:14:13Alcoa won't pay for the ads.

0:14:14 > 0:14:16And we probably won't either.

0:14:16 > 0:14:19But nobody'll stop you. How much are the ads?

0:14:20 > 0:14:22Three thousand.

0:14:22 > 0:14:24I'll split it with Fred.

0:14:25 > 0:14:27He just won't have Christmas presents

0:14:27 > 0:14:29for his kids this year.

0:14:29 > 0:14:30He s a Jew.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33Well, don't tell him that, he loves Christmas.

0:14:40 > 0:14:43FRIENDLY: To be clear, you did speak with the lawyers?

0:14:43 > 0:14:45Yes, we did. And we read the transcript.

0:14:45 > 0:14:47We've not been allowed to see the footage.

0:14:47 > 0:14:49We're still shooting it. Charlie Mack is on a plane

0:14:49 > 0:14:51from Dexter right now with the rest of the interview.

0:14:51 > 0:14:53We'll be going right down to the wire...

0:14:53 > 0:14:54Your show airs tomorrow.

0:14:54 > 0:14:57How can we possibly approve and check the story

0:14:57 > 0:14:59that you are running in the limited amount of time

0:14:59 > 0:15:01you have given us? With all due respect,

0:15:01 > 0:15:03you have been invited to participate in this piece,

0:15:03 > 0:15:06not to approve this piece.

0:15:06 > 0:15:07We are going with the story

0:15:07 > 0:15:08that says that the US Air Force

0:15:08 > 0:15:11tried Milo Radulovich without one shred of evidence

0:15:11 > 0:15:14and found him guilty of being a security risk without...

0:15:14 > 0:15:17And you, who also have not seen the evidence,

0:15:17 > 0:15:19are claiming he's not a security risk.

0:15:19 > 0:15:21Wouldn't you guess

0:15:21 > 0:15:24that the people who have seen the contents of that envelope...

0:15:24 > 0:15:25Who? ..might have a better idea

0:15:25 > 0:15:28of what makes someone a danger to his country?

0:15:28 > 0:15:29Who are these people, sir?

0:15:29 > 0:15:31Or should it be just you who decides?

0:15:31 > 0:15:33Who are these people? Are they elected?

0:15:33 > 0:15:34Are they appointed? Do they have an axe to grind?

0:15:34 > 0:15:37Is it you, sir? Or you, Colonel Jenkins?

0:15:37 > 0:15:41Do you know the contents of that sealed envelope?

0:15:41 > 0:15:44Mr Friendly, we have been a friend and ally

0:15:44 > 0:15:46of both Mr Murrow and CBS News for many years.

0:15:46 > 0:15:50The story you are going to run tomorrow is without merit.

0:15:50 > 0:15:54So before you take any steps that cannot be undone,

0:15:54 > 0:15:57I strongly urge you to reconsider your stand.

0:15:57 > 0:16:01These are very dangerous waters you are attempting to navigate.

0:16:06 > 0:16:10As a matter of fact, we had no hearing at all.

0:16:10 > 0:16:12We have had no day in court.

0:16:12 > 0:16:14In all the 32 years

0:16:14 > 0:16:17that I have been a practicing attorney in Detroit,

0:16:17 > 0:16:18I have never witnessed

0:16:18 > 0:16:21such a farce and travesty upon justice

0:16:21 > 0:16:24as this thing has developed.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26Now, this whole... Eddie, just take the first reel.

0:16:26 > 0:16:28Tell John I left five-seconds extra leader.

0:16:28 > 0:16:30Five-seconds extra. I got it, I got it.

0:16:30 > 0:16:32Palmer, where's Joe? Have you seen Joe?

0:16:32 > 0:16:33He's on his way to the control room.

0:16:33 > 0:16:34We're gonna have to do the voice-over live.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36Natalie, I need a booth with a live mic.

0:16:36 > 0:16:37It's there, already set.

0:16:37 > 0:16:39We didn't have time to sync it up.

0:16:39 > 0:16:41HEWITT: That's not what I asked for.

0:16:41 > 0:16:43It's front-loaded about five seconds.

0:16:43 > 0:16:44It's missing the voice-over on the last piece.

0:16:44 > 0:16:46Don, there's a commercial in the booth.

0:16:46 > 0:16:47What do you want me to do?

0:16:47 > 0:16:48Two minutes to air, fellas.

0:16:48 > 0:16:51There's not supposed to be a commercial. Get him out.

0:16:51 > 0:16:53You can't have a mic set up here.

0:16:53 > 0:16:54You go up and do it in the booth.

0:16:54 > 0:16:56Two and a half minutes on the Ed piece.

0:16:56 > 0:16:58Ed, we've got three minutes on the bottom.

0:16:58 > 0:17:00HEWITT: Fellas, keep it down. It's a little loud.

0:17:00 > 0:17:02Two minutes to air, fellas.

0:17:05 > 0:17:07Charlie, let me borrow your lighter.

0:17:07 > 0:17:09Thanks.

0:17:09 > 0:17:11WILLIAMS: I swapped those two pieces of parents on the end...

0:17:11 > 0:17:13ZOUSMER: Well, as long as he talks fast.

0:17:13 > 0:17:14WILLIAMS: He will talk fast.

0:17:19 > 0:17:21We got the film.

0:17:21 > 0:17:23Will it be ready?

0:17:23 > 0:17:24You bet.

0:17:30 > 0:17:32Funny thing, Freddy.

0:17:32 > 0:17:35Every time you light a cigarette for me, I know you're lying.

0:17:48 > 0:17:49You know, it occurs to me

0:17:49 > 0:17:52we might not get away with this one.

0:18:00 > 0:18:02Ten seconds. You fellas ready? OK.

0:18:02 > 0:18:04Ready on camera one.

0:18:10 > 0:18:12FRIENDLY: Five,

0:18:12 > 0:18:15four, three, two...

0:18:17 > 0:18:19HEWITT: Pan, camera one.

0:18:19 > 0:18:21Good evening.

0:18:21 > 0:18:24A few weeks ago, there occurred a few obscure notices

0:18:24 > 0:18:27in the newspapers about a Lieutenant Milo Radulovich,

0:18:27 > 0:18:29a lieutenant in the Air Force reserves.

0:18:29 > 0:18:34And also, something about Air Force regulation 35-62.

0:18:34 > 0:18:35That is a regulation which states

0:18:35 > 0:18:38that a man may be regarded as a security risk

0:18:38 > 0:18:41if he has close and continuing association with communists

0:18:41 > 0:18:44or people believed to have communist sympathies.

0:18:44 > 0:18:47OVER SPEAKERS: Lieutenant Radulovich was asked to resign in August.

0:18:47 > 0:18:48He declined.

0:18:48 > 0:18:50A board was called and heard his case.

0:18:50 > 0:18:52At the end, it was recommended

0:18:52 > 0:18:53that he be severed from the Air Force,

0:18:53 > 0:18:55although it was also stated

0:18:55 > 0:18:57that there was no question whatever

0:18:57 > 0:18:59as to the lieutenant's loyalty.

0:18:59 > 0:19:01We propose to examine, insofar as we can,

0:19:01 > 0:19:03the case of Lieutenant Radulovich.

0:19:03 > 0:19:06Our reporter, Joe Wershba, cameraman, Charlie Mack.

0:19:06 > 0:19:10WERSHBA: This is the town of Dexter, Michigan. Population 1,500.

0:19:10 > 0:19:12This statue is at the end...

0:19:12 > 0:19:14WERSHBA CONTINUES IN THE BACKGROUND

0:19:14 > 0:19:16What did the General tell you yesterday?

0:19:16 > 0:19:18It was a colonel, and there were two of them.

0:19:18 > 0:19:21That makes a general. They weren't too pleased.

0:19:21 > 0:19:23You're gonna get audited this year.

0:19:23 > 0:19:24Not me, you.

0:19:24 > 0:19:27I told them I didn't want to do the story.

0:19:27 > 0:19:29You always were yellow.

0:19:29 > 0:19:31Better than red.

0:19:37 > 0:19:39In ten seconds...

0:19:43 > 0:19:45This is the sister, Margaret Radulovich Fishman.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48She neither defends nor explains her political activities.

0:19:48 > 0:19:52I feel that my activities,

0:19:52 > 0:19:54well, be they what they may, or my political beliefs,

0:19:54 > 0:19:56are my own private affair.

0:19:56 > 0:19:58MILO: If, uh...?

0:19:58 > 0:20:01Are my children going to be asked to, uh, denounce me?

0:20:01 > 0:20:03Are they going to be judged

0:20:03 > 0:20:05on what their father was labelled?

0:20:05 > 0:20:08Are they going to, uh...

0:20:08 > 0:20:10have to explain to their friends, et cetera,

0:20:10 > 0:20:13why their father is a security risk?

0:20:13 > 0:20:16I see, absolutely, uh,

0:20:16 > 0:20:19that this is a chain reaction.

0:20:19 > 0:20:22If the thing is let stand as...

0:20:22 > 0:20:26the first recommendation was sent out by the board,

0:20:26 > 0:20:28I see a chain reaction

0:20:28 > 0:20:30that has no end to anybody, for anybody.

0:20:30 > 0:20:32MURROW: Perhaps you will permit me

0:20:32 > 0:20:34to read a few sentences just at the end

0:20:34 > 0:20:38because I would like to say rather precisely what I mean.

0:20:38 > 0:20:41We have told the Air Force that we will provide facilities

0:20:41 > 0:20:44for any comment, criticism or corrections it may wish to make

0:20:44 > 0:20:46in regard to the case of Milo Radulovich.

0:20:46 > 0:20:48We are unable to judge the charges

0:20:48 > 0:20:50against the Lieutenant's father or sister

0:20:50 > 0:20:53because neither we, nor you, nor they, nor the lawyers,

0:20:53 > 0:20:55nor the Lieutenant know precisely

0:20:55 > 0:20:58what was contained in that manila envelope.

0:20:58 > 0:21:01Was it hearsay, rumour, gossip, slander,

0:21:01 > 0:21:03or hard ascertainable facts

0:21:03 > 0:21:05that could be backed by credible witnesses?

0:21:05 > 0:21:06We do not know.

0:21:06 > 0:21:08We believe the son

0:21:08 > 0:21:10shall not bear the iniquity of the father.

0:21:10 > 0:21:12Even though that iniquity be proved,

0:21:12 > 0:21:14and in this case it was not.

0:21:15 > 0:21:16But we believe, too,

0:21:16 > 0:21:18that this case illustrates the urgent need

0:21:18 > 0:21:21for the armed forces to communicate more fully

0:21:21 > 0:21:22than they have so far done,

0:21:22 > 0:21:25the procedures and regulations to be followed

0:21:25 > 0:21:27in attempting to protect the national security

0:21:27 > 0:21:30and the rights of the individual at the same time.

0:21:30 > 0:21:32Whatever happens in this whole area

0:21:32 > 0:21:35of the relationship between the individual and the state,

0:21:35 > 0:21:37we will do it ourselves.

0:21:37 > 0:21:40It cannot be blamed on Malenkov or Mao Tse-tung,

0:21:40 > 0:21:42or even our allies.

0:21:42 > 0:21:43And it seems to us,

0:21:43 > 0:21:46that is, Fred Friendly and myself,

0:21:46 > 0:21:47that this is a subject

0:21:47 > 0:21:51that should be argued about endlessly.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54Good night, and good luck.

0:21:59 > 0:22:00And we're out.

0:22:02 > 0:22:05MUSIC: "I've Got My Eyes On You" by Dianne Reeves

0:22:14 > 0:22:20# I've got

0:22:20 > 0:22:24# My eyes on you

0:22:25 > 0:22:28# So best beware

0:22:28 > 0:22:34# Where you roam

0:22:38 > 0:22:43# I've set

0:22:43 > 0:22:48# My spies on you

0:22:49 > 0:22:55# I'm checkin' on all you do

0:22:55 > 0:23:02# From a to z

0:23:03 > 0:23:09# So, darling

0:23:09 > 0:23:14# Don't be wise

0:23:14 > 0:23:19# Keep your eyes

0:23:19 > 0:23:22# On

0:23:22 > 0:23:27# Me. #

0:23:32 > 0:23:35May I tell you something about yourself,

0:23:35 > 0:23:37as a member of the Person To Person audience?

0:23:37 > 0:23:39Based on audience research studies,

0:23:39 > 0:23:43you are well above average in education and intelligence.

0:23:43 > 0:23:45Your interests are wide,

0:23:45 > 0:23:48from world affairs and science to sports and show business.

0:23:48 > 0:23:50And you have one characteristic

0:23:50 > 0:23:52that's rather encouraging to me,

0:23:52 > 0:23:53and that's the fact

0:23:53 > 0:23:56that you are not easily persuaded by advertising.

0:23:56 > 0:23:57Now, the makers of Kent

0:23:57 > 0:23:59considered all these characteristics

0:23:59 > 0:24:01when they chose Mr Murrow's programme

0:24:01 > 0:24:03to tell you about Kent.

0:24:03 > 0:24:05Of all leading filter cigarettes,

0:24:05 > 0:24:07Kent filters best.

0:24:07 > 0:24:10Now, if you'll try Kent with that in mind,

0:24:10 > 0:24:13I think you'll agree with many, many other thinking people

0:24:13 > 0:24:15who have changed to Kent.

0:24:15 > 0:24:18They find that it makes good sense to smoke Kent

0:24:18 > 0:24:20and good smoking too.

0:24:20 > 0:24:22Did you get the change on that? OK.

0:24:22 > 0:24:24Let's roll that... OK.

0:24:24 > 0:24:27No, no. You there? OK. We got it.

0:24:27 > 0:24:30ANNOUNCER(OVER SPEAKERS): Now back to Ed Murrow.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33Not since the silent movies and the idols they produced

0:24:33 > 0:24:35has Hollywood witnessed the sort of pilgrimage

0:24:35 > 0:24:36that is now going on.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39Each day, oblivious to time, weather,

0:24:39 > 0:24:42and the state of the world, sightseers head in the direction

0:24:42 > 0:24:44of California's San Fernando Valley.

0:24:44 > 0:24:48For there, at the end of the tourist line, is Sherman Oaks,

0:24:48 > 0:24:51and the home Liberace has built for himself and his mother.

0:24:51 > 0:24:53This is the front,

0:24:53 > 0:24:56and nobody knows how many people have seen that view.

0:24:56 > 0:24:59This is the back of the house, and that's Liberace's bedroom.

0:24:59 > 0:25:00Good evening, Lee.

0:25:00 > 0:25:02(OVER PHONE) Good evening, Ed.

0:25:02 > 0:25:03What are you doing?

0:25:03 > 0:25:05Well, I'm just dictating

0:25:05 > 0:25:08my weekly syndicated newspaper column and...

0:25:08 > 0:25:10on my trusty tape recorder here.

0:25:10 > 0:25:13I also am dictating a book.

0:25:13 > 0:25:15It's an inspirational book...

0:25:15 > 0:25:16What about you? Have you given much thought

0:25:16 > 0:25:18to getting married and settling down?

0:25:18 > 0:25:21LIBERACE: Actually, I've given a lot of thought to marriage,

0:25:21 > 0:25:23but I don't believe in getting married

0:25:23 > 0:25:24just for the sake of getting married.

0:25:24 > 0:25:28I want to someday find the perfect mate

0:25:28 > 0:25:30and settle down to, what I hope will be,

0:25:30 > 0:25:33a marriage that will be blessed by faith

0:25:33 > 0:25:35and will be a lasting union.

0:25:35 > 0:25:37In fact, I was reading

0:25:37 > 0:25:40about lovely young Princess Margaret,

0:25:40 > 0:25:43and she's looking for her dream man too,

0:25:43 > 0:25:45and I hope she finds him someday.

0:25:46 > 0:25:49Uh-huh. Well, Lee, thanks very much

0:25:49 > 0:25:50for letting us come and visit you.

0:25:50 > 0:25:51It's been very pleasant.

0:25:51 > 0:25:53And will you say good night to the rest of your family for us?

0:25:53 > 0:25:55I certainly would. Thanks a lot.

0:25:55 > 0:25:56Good night, Ed. Good night, Lee.

0:25:56 > 0:26:01Next week, we'll take you to Beverly Hills, California,

0:26:01 > 0:26:03to the house of Mickey Rooney and his new bride.

0:26:03 > 0:26:06Until then, good night, and good luck.

0:26:12 > 0:26:13MAN: Good show, Mr Murrow.

0:26:36 > 0:26:37NATALIE: Excuse me, Mr Murrow.

0:26:37 > 0:26:39When you have a moment, can you take a look at this

0:26:39 > 0:26:40and sign it for me?

0:26:40 > 0:26:42Thank you. Oh, Dr Stanton wanted to know

0:26:42 > 0:26:43if you could have a drink with him.

0:26:43 > 0:26:45When? Now. He's at the Pentagon Bar.

0:26:45 > 0:26:47I can't. What the hell is he doing there?

0:26:47 > 0:26:49I believe he's waiting for you.

0:26:49 > 0:26:51Well, just call him, Natalie. That's fine.

0:26:51 > 0:26:52Oppenheimer next week.

0:26:52 > 0:26:53It's a good show, Ed.

0:26:54 > 0:26:55Hey, Don. Ed.

0:26:57 > 0:26:58You're getting good at this.

0:26:58 > 0:27:00They're gonna think you like it.

0:27:00 > 0:27:01Heh. Pays the bills.

0:27:01 > 0:27:04How are you, Don?

0:27:04 > 0:27:06Ah, it's...

0:27:06 > 0:27:08day-to-day.

0:27:08 > 0:27:10Well, if she saw how good you look right now,

0:27:10 > 0:27:11she'd be back.

0:27:11 > 0:27:15You tell her that if you see her, will you?

0:27:15 > 0:27:18I read the O'Brian piece.

0:27:18 > 0:27:19Yeah, it's tough.

0:27:19 > 0:27:23I'm a pinko. I slant the news.

0:27:23 > 0:27:26I'm just waiting for him to say my wife left me too.

0:27:26 > 0:27:29Nobody worth their salt reads him.

0:27:29 > 0:27:30You read him.

0:27:30 > 0:27:32Well, see, I rest my case.

0:27:33 > 0:27:36Does Paley read him?

0:27:36 > 0:27:38Bill Paley's not gonna do anything, Don.

0:27:38 > 0:27:40Well...

0:27:40 > 0:27:42thanks, Ed.

0:27:43 > 0:27:44Oh, I just came by to tell you

0:27:44 > 0:27:46how great the lieutenant piece was.

0:27:46 > 0:27:47Thanks. How's the fallout?

0:27:47 > 0:27:49Mostly good, surprisingly.

0:27:49 > 0:27:51Is this the start?

0:27:51 > 0:27:53Are you taking sides?

0:27:53 > 0:27:56It's just a little poke with a stick,

0:27:56 > 0:27:57see what happens.

0:27:57 > 0:27:59You let me know if I can help.

0:27:59 > 0:28:01But you're a pinko, Don.

0:28:01 > 0:28:03DON LAUGHS

0:28:03 > 0:28:05I'll see you, Ed.

0:28:13 > 0:28:15INDISTINCT CHATTER

0:28:20 > 0:28:22SURINE: Hey, Joe, what's all this Radwich junk you're putting out?

0:28:22 > 0:28:25Don, I can't talk to you right now. I gotta get this film back to New York.

0:28:25 > 0:28:29What would you say if I told you Murrow was on the Soviet payroll in 1935?

0:28:31 > 0:28:32Uh, Charlie, you want to...

0:28:32 > 0:28:34Sure. I'll set up outside.

0:28:36 > 0:28:38McCarthy going to the Eisenhower dinner?

0:28:38 > 0:28:40I have no idea. I don t keep the Senator's calendar for him, Joe.

0:28:40 > 0:28:41Really?

0:28:45 > 0:28:47Don, ever seen... any spy films?

0:28:47 > 0:28:49You don't just hand me a classified folder.

0:28:49 > 0:28:51You're supposed to slip it in my briefcase when I'm not looking.

0:28:51 > 0:28:54It's perfect. I didn't know who to give this information to, Paley or Murrow.

0:28:54 > 0:28:57As you can imagine, Fred and I aren't very friendly.

0:28:57 > 0:28:58No pun intended.

0:28:58 > 0:29:00Well, no pun elocuted.

0:29:03 > 0:29:04What do you got? In short?

0:29:04 > 0:29:07Murrow's been a communist sympathiser since the 1930s.

0:29:07 > 0:29:09Member of the International Workers,

0:29:09 > 0:29:11sponsored educational trips to Moscow,

0:29:11 > 0:29:14and on the Soviet payroll in 1935. It's all there.

0:29:14 > 0:29:15You wanna know why that's not possible?

0:29:15 > 0:29:17Why you'll lose this one, Donald?

0:29:17 > 0:29:20Because everyone in this country knows

0:29:20 > 0:29:21Ed Murrow is a loyal American.

0:29:21 > 0:29:23He's a patriot.

0:29:23 > 0:29:24DONALD SCOFFS

0:29:24 > 0:29:27Did you know the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary, Joe?

0:29:27 > 0:29:28Can I give this to him?

0:29:28 > 0:29:30Oh, I'd love it. I have copies.

0:29:33 > 0:29:35I think you guys go too far.

0:29:35 > 0:29:38If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.

0:29:43 > 0:29:45MARY: Yes, Mr Paley.

0:29:45 > 0:29:47Right away. Yes, sir.

0:29:49 > 0:29:51No, he hasn't called.

0:29:51 > 0:29:53Yes, sir, the second he calls.

0:29:53 > 0:29:55If you're in a meeting, shall I...?

0:29:56 > 0:29:59Yes, sir. Of course, sir.

0:30:00 > 0:30:02Mr Murrow...

0:30:02 > 0:30:05Mr Paley will see you now.

0:30:07 > 0:30:10Mr Paley, Mr Murrow is here.

0:30:10 > 0:30:12Thank you, Miss Mary.

0:30:12 > 0:30:14Hello, Ed. Bill.

0:30:14 > 0:30:16Sit over here, will you?

0:30:16 > 0:30:18How's Janet? Your son?

0:30:18 > 0:30:20All well, thanks. How's Babe?

0:30:20 > 0:30:21Oh, she's fine. She's fine.

0:30:21 > 0:30:23Her fundraiser got rained on, so...

0:30:23 > 0:30:25Oh. That's why I never plan on anything.

0:30:25 > 0:30:27Really?

0:30:27 > 0:30:29You'd never know.

0:30:32 > 0:30:34Reading fiction?

0:30:34 > 0:30:36I hope so. You tell me.

0:30:36 > 0:30:39Well, now we know how they're gonna come at us.

0:30:39 > 0:30:40That's just their first shot.

0:30:40 > 0:30:42Somebody's going to go down.

0:30:42 > 0:30:43Have you checked your facts?

0:30:43 > 0:30:46Are you sure you're on safe ground?

0:30:46 > 0:30:49Bill, it's time. Show our cards.

0:30:49 > 0:30:52My cards. You lose, what happens?

0:30:52 > 0:30:55Five guys find themselves out of work.

0:30:55 > 0:30:57I'm responsible for a hell of a lot more

0:30:57 > 0:30:58than five goddamn reporters.

0:30:58 > 0:30:59Let it go.

0:30:59 > 0:31:03McCarthy will self-destruct, Cohn, all of them.

0:31:03 > 0:31:05Bill, you said corporate would not interfere with editorial,

0:31:05 > 0:31:06and that the news was to be left our own...

0:31:06 > 0:31:08We don't make the news, we report the news.

0:31:08 > 0:31:1199% of the time, he's wrong about the people he's marked as communists.

0:31:11 > 0:31:13And if he goes too far, the senate will investigate him,

0:31:13 > 0:31:16and we will report on that. But he's wrong 100% of the time

0:31:16 > 0:31:17when he oversteps people's civil liberties.

0:31:17 > 0:31:18You're trying him in the press.

0:31:18 > 0:31:20Does he get to face his accuser?

0:31:20 > 0:31:22You've just decided on this,

0:31:22 > 0:31:23and now you're presenting it as fact.

0:31:23 > 0:31:25What I am doing, Bill... I write your cheque.

0:31:25 > 0:31:27I put you in your country house,

0:31:27 > 0:31:29and I put your son through school.

0:31:29 > 0:31:31You should have told me about this

0:31:31 > 0:31:32before it went so far down the road.

0:31:43 > 0:31:46Every one of your boys needs to be clean.

0:31:46 > 0:31:47Do you understand? No ties.

0:31:47 > 0:31:49If Aaron's mother

0:31:49 > 0:31:51so much as went to a group fundraiser in 1932,

0:31:51 > 0:31:53he's out. Hewitt too.

0:31:53 > 0:31:56Anyone in that room. You make no mistake,

0:31:56 > 0:31:58I will cut them loose.

0:31:58 > 0:31:59Corporate won't interfere with editorial.

0:31:59 > 0:32:01But editorial will not... INTERCOM BUZZES

0:32:01 > 0:32:04..jeopardise the hundreds of employees

0:32:04 > 0:32:05of the Columbia Broadcasting System.

0:32:05 > 0:32:07Do I make myself clear?

0:32:07 > 0:32:08..Yes?

0:32:13 > 0:32:15FRIENDLY: Fellas,

0:32:15 > 0:32:18our next show is gonna be about Senator McCarthy.

0:32:18 > 0:32:20And we re gonna go right at him.

0:32:20 > 0:32:23I don't need to tell you how careful we have to be.

0:32:23 > 0:32:24If we are to do this,

0:32:24 > 0:32:26then Ed and I need you to be straight with us.

0:32:26 > 0:32:28We need to know, for the good of the piece,

0:32:28 > 0:32:30if any of you have any connection at all,

0:32:30 > 0:32:32if you subscribed to a newsletter,

0:32:32 > 0:32:34if you attended a party, anything.

0:32:34 > 0:32:37Anything that could compromise this,

0:32:37 > 0:32:41anything at all, because now would be the time to tell us.

0:32:45 > 0:32:47Ed, I think I should excuse myself.

0:32:47 > 0:32:50ZOUSMER: Palmer, you kidding?

0:32:50 > 0:32:51PALMER: My ex was a...

0:32:51 > 0:32:53well, I wouldn't say she was a communist,

0:32:53 > 0:32:55but she certainly attended meetings.

0:32:55 > 0:32:56It was before we were married.

0:32:56 > 0:32:59I didn't even really know about it until after the divorce.

0:32:59 > 0:33:03But it was different then. We were all on the same side.

0:33:03 > 0:33:05I'm not telling you guys anything you don't know.

0:33:05 > 0:33:09The thing of it is, somebody'll find out.

0:33:09 > 0:33:11They'll hurt us with it.

0:33:12 > 0:33:15I should have told you sooner, Ed. I'm sorry.

0:33:16 > 0:33:17Fred.

0:33:20 > 0:33:22Oh, if none of us had ever read a dangerous book

0:33:22 > 0:33:25or had a friend who was different,

0:33:25 > 0:33:27never joined an organisation that advocated change,

0:33:27 > 0:33:31we'd all be just the kind of people Joe McCarthy wants.

0:33:32 > 0:33:34We're gonna go with the story,

0:33:34 > 0:33:37cos the terror is right here in this room.

0:33:39 > 0:33:40FRIENDLY: John, Jesse,

0:33:40 > 0:33:42go through the HUAC hearings.

0:33:42 > 0:33:43Eddie, Palmer, look into the interviews

0:33:43 > 0:33:45and any speeches.

0:33:46 > 0:33:48OK, fellas, here we go.

0:33:48 > 0:33:49His own words,

0:33:49 > 0:33:51that's what we need.

0:33:51 > 0:33:53MCCARTHY: He wouldn't remove a general from the army

0:33:53 > 0:33:55who cleared a communist major.

0:33:55 > 0:33:56I said, "Then, General,

0:33:56 > 0:33:58"you should be removed from any command.

0:33:58 > 0:34:00"Any man who says,

0:34:00 > 0:34:02"I will protect another general

0:34:02 > 0:34:04"who protects communists,

0:34:04 > 0:34:06"is not fit to wear that uniform, General."

0:34:06 > 0:34:08WILLIAMS: All right, so hold on.

0:34:08 > 0:34:09Ethically, we're fine.

0:34:09 > 0:34:10But legally, if we air this,

0:34:10 > 0:34:13are we leaking closed-hearing testimony?

0:34:13 > 0:34:15SCOTT: Well, we're not misquoting him.

0:34:15 > 0:34:17There are other reporters. I think legally we're safe.

0:34:17 > 0:34:18If it's a legal issue, it's his.

0:34:18 > 0:34:19SCOTT: I'll check with legal.

0:34:19 > 0:34:22And wait till you hear the bleeding hearts

0:34:22 > 0:34:25scream and cry about our methods

0:34:25 > 0:34:29of trying to drag the truth

0:34:29 > 0:34:32from those who know or should know,

0:34:32 > 0:34:34who covered up

0:34:34 > 0:34:36a Fifth Amendment communist major.

0:34:36 > 0:34:38But they say, "Oh,

0:34:38 > 0:34:40"it's all right to uncover them,

0:34:40 > 0:34:42"but don't get rough doing it, McCarthy."

0:34:42 > 0:34:43CROWD CHUCKLES

0:34:43 > 0:34:46Did the Civil... Civil Liberties Union

0:34:46 > 0:34:48provide you with an attorney at that time?

0:34:48 > 0:34:51HARRIS: I had many offers of attorneys,

0:34:51 > 0:34:54and one of those was from the American Civil Liberties Union, yes.

0:34:54 > 0:34:55MCCARTHY: The questions is,

0:34:55 > 0:34:57did they supply you with an attorney?

0:34:57 > 0:34:59- They did supply an attorney.

0:34:59 > 0:35:01- The answer is yes? - The answer is yes.

0:35:01 > 0:35:03- You know the Civil Liberties Union

0:35:03 > 0:35:05has been listed as a front for and doing the work

0:35:05 > 0:35:07of the communist party?

0:35:07 > 0:35:10- Mr Chairman, this was 1932.

0:35:10 > 0:35:11- Yeah, I know that was 1932.

0:35:11 > 0:35:13Do you know that they since have been listed

0:35:13 > 0:35:16as a front for and doing the work of the communist party?

0:35:16 > 0:35:18- I do not know that they have been listed.

0:35:18 > 0:35:20- You don't know they have been listed?

0:35:20 > 0:35:21- I have heard that mentioned...

0:35:21 > 0:35:22All right, Leo. Turn it off.

0:35:22 > 0:35:24ZOUSMER: I need those three cans.

0:35:24 > 0:35:26FRIENDLY: Has anybody read this book yet? It would be nice

0:35:26 > 0:35:28if this guy isn't actually a commie.

0:35:28 > 0:35:30WILLIAMS: I wanna read the book.

0:35:30 > 0:35:32WERSHBA: I hear you, boss.

0:35:32 > 0:35:34I'll put it on a kinescope. Push through to the end.

0:35:34 > 0:35:35FRIENDLY: Palmer, cut it at 2:30.

0:35:35 > 0:35:38ZOUSMER: I prefer it one on each end, let it run through.

0:35:38 > 0:35:40I think it'd be more powerful. Cut Kennedy, shorten the piece.

0:35:40 > 0:35:43FRIENDLY: Joe, file it for me. I'll see the Mundt piece later.

0:35:43 > 0:35:45MURROW: Are we gonna make it, Fred?

0:35:45 > 0:35:47FRIENDLY: We lost the telecine, but we'll make it.

0:35:50 > 0:35:53Did you finish your closing piece?

0:35:53 > 0:35:56MURROW: It's Shakespeare.

0:35:56 > 0:35:58FRIENDLY: Write your closing.

0:36:23 > 0:36:25WERSHBA: My argument was,

0:36:25 > 0:36:27if you just show the images of McCarthy,

0:36:27 > 0:36:29it doesn't make any difference.

0:36:29 > 0:36:30If you agree with him, you're gonna hate it.

0:36:30 > 0:36:32If you don't, you'll love it.

0:36:32 > 0:36:34Maybe they should wait till they get more footage.

0:36:34 > 0:36:35I don't think we can take that chance.

0:36:35 > 0:36:38See, we've gotta hit McCarthy before he comes after Ed.

0:36:39 > 0:36:41The blue one.

0:36:41 > 0:36:43Well, they haven't gone after the Alsops or Herb Block.

0:36:43 > 0:36:44Well, honey...

0:36:44 > 0:36:47the Alsops and Herb Block didn't work

0:36:47 > 0:36:51for the Institute of International Education in 1934.

0:36:51 > 0:36:52Then I guess it's time.

0:36:59 > 0:37:00You worried?

0:37:03 > 0:37:05I didn't think I was. Hm.

0:37:05 > 0:37:07I don't know why. I was in the office on Friday.

0:37:07 > 0:37:10And I answered the phone, and it was Howard calling from London.

0:37:10 > 0:37:13And he asked what was going on with McCarthy.

0:37:13 > 0:37:15And before I answered him

0:37:15 > 0:37:18I turned and looked over my shoulder

0:37:18 > 0:37:19to see who was listening.

0:37:19 > 0:37:23And who was listening?

0:37:23 > 0:37:24Chairman Mao.

0:37:30 > 0:37:32See you at the office.

0:37:32 > 0:37:33Hey, your ring.

0:37:37 > 0:37:38Name me another wife

0:37:38 > 0:37:41who reminds her husband to take off

0:37:41 > 0:37:43his wedding ring before he goes to the office.

0:37:43 > 0:37:46Ava Gardner.

0:37:52 > 0:37:53NATALIE: Excuse me, Mr Friendly. Mr Murrow?

0:37:53 > 0:37:56Uh, Mr Paley's on the line for you.

0:37:57 > 0:38:00Maybe he wants to reimburse us for those ads.

0:38:00 > 0:38:02Ah, you'd like that. I would like that.

0:38:02 > 0:38:03This is Ed.

0:38:03 > 0:38:05PALEY: There s a Knickerbocker game tonight.

0:38:05 > 0:38:09I've got front row seats. Are you interested?

0:38:09 > 0:38:12I'm a little busy bringing down the network tonight, Bill.

0:38:12 > 0:38:14Is that tonight?

0:38:14 > 0:38:17We're covered, Bill.

0:38:17 > 0:38:18All right.

0:38:20 > 0:38:22I'm with you today, Ed,

0:38:22 > 0:38:24and I'm with you tomorrow.

0:38:24 > 0:38:25Thanks, Bill.

0:38:25 > 0:38:27LINE CLICKS

0:38:38 > 0:38:39PHONE RINGS

0:38:39 > 0:38:41Do you know the timing on this first piece?

0:38:41 > 0:38:43SIMON: You have the wrong extension.

0:38:43 > 0:38:45Can we hold all the calls, please, Simon?

0:38:45 > 0:38:47All the calls till after the show, thank you.

0:38:47 > 0:38:49MACK: You fellas awake down there?

0:38:49 > 0:38:50AARON: OK.

0:38:50 > 0:38:51What are we, 20?

0:38:51 > 0:38:53FRIENDLY: 30 seconds.

0:38:58 > 0:39:01INDISTINCT CHATTER OVER TV

0:39:07 > 0:39:09FRIENDLY: Ten seconds.

0:39:13 > 0:39:15FRIENDLY: Five, four,

0:39:15 > 0:39:19three, two...

0:39:19 > 0:39:21ZOUSMER: And pan, camera one.

0:39:23 > 0:39:25Because a report

0:39:25 > 0:39:28on Senator McCarthy is, by definition, controversial,

0:39:28 > 0:39:30we want to say exactly what we mean to say

0:39:30 > 0:39:32and request your permission to read from a script

0:39:32 > 0:39:35whatever remarks Murrow and Friendly may make.

0:39:35 > 0:39:38If the Senator feels that we have done violence

0:39:38 > 0:39:39to his words or pictures,

0:39:39 > 0:39:42and desires, so to speak, to answer himself,

0:39:42 > 0:39:45an opportunity will be afforded him on this programme.

0:39:45 > 0:39:49Our working thesis tonight is this quotation:

0:39:49 > 0:39:51"If this fight against communism has made a fight

0:39:51 > 0:39:53"between America's two great political parties,

0:39:53 > 0:39:56"the American people know that one of these parties will be destroyed.

0:39:56 > 0:39:58"And the Republic cannot endure very long

0:39:58 > 0:39:59"as a one-party system."

0:39:59 > 0:40:01We applaud that statement,

0:40:01 > 0:40:03and we think Senator McCarthy ought to.

0:40:03 > 0:40:06He said it 17 months ago in Milwaukee.

0:40:06 > 0:40:10MCCARTHY (OVER SPEAKERS): The American people realise that this cannot be made

0:40:10 > 0:40:12a fight between America's two great political parties.

0:40:12 > 0:40:15If this fight against communism is made a fight

0:40:15 > 0:40:17against America's two great political parties,

0:40:17 > 0:40:19the American people know

0:40:19 > 0:40:21that one of those parties will be destroyed,

0:40:21 > 0:40:23and the Republic can't endure very long

0:40:23 > 0:40:26as a one-party system.

0:40:26 > 0:40:27MURROW: On one thing,

0:40:27 > 0:40:28the Senator has been consistent.

0:40:28 > 0:40:31Often operating as a one-man committee,

0:40:31 > 0:40:33he has travelled far, interviewed many,

0:40:33 > 0:40:34terrorised some.

0:40:34 > 0:40:36Accused civilian and military leaders

0:40:36 > 0:40:39of the past administration of a great conspiracy

0:40:39 > 0:40:41to turn over the country to communism.

0:40:41 > 0:40:43MCCARTHY: Well, may I say that I was extremely shocked

0:40:43 > 0:40:45when I heard that Secretary Stevens

0:40:45 > 0:40:48told two army officers that they...

0:40:48 > 0:40:50had to take part in the cover-up

0:40:50 > 0:40:53of those who promoted and coddled communists.

0:40:53 > 0:40:56As I read his statement, I, uh...

0:40:56 > 0:40:58thought of that quotation,

0:40:58 > 0:41:03"On what meat doth this our Caesar feed?"

0:41:03 > 0:41:05MCCARTHY: The question is, did the Civil Liberties Union

0:41:05 > 0:41:06supply you with an attorney?

0:41:06 > 0:41:08HARRIS: They did supply an attorney.

0:41:08 > 0:41:09-The answer is yes?

0:41:09 > 0:41:11- The answer is yes.

0:41:11 > 0:41:13- Do you think this book did considerable harm,

0:41:13 > 0:41:15its publication,

0:41:15 > 0:41:18by an expression of the views contained in it?

0:41:18 > 0:41:22- The sale of that book was so abysmally small,

0:41:22 > 0:41:24it was so unsuccessful,

0:41:24 > 0:41:26that a question of its influence, uh...

0:41:26 > 0:41:28Really, you can go back to the publisher.

0:41:28 > 0:41:30You'll see it was one of the most unsuccessful books

0:41:30 > 0:41:32he ever put out.

0:41:32 > 0:41:34He's still sorry about it, just as I am.

0:41:34 > 0:41:38- I think that's a compliment to American intelligence...

0:41:38 > 0:41:39CROWD CHUCKLES

0:41:39 > 0:41:40..I'll say that.

0:41:40 > 0:41:42The Reed Harris hearing demonstrates

0:41:42 > 0:41:43one of the Senator's techniques.

0:41:43 > 0:41:45Twice he said,

0:41:45 > 0:41:47"The American Civil Liberties Union was listed

0:41:47 > 0:41:49"as a subversive front."

0:41:49 > 0:41:51The Attorney General's list does not and never has

0:41:51 > 0:41:55listed the ACLU as subversive, nor does the FBI

0:41:55 > 0:41:57or any other federal government agency.

0:41:57 > 0:42:00And the American Civil Liberties Union holds in its files

0:42:00 > 0:42:03letters of commendation from President Truman,

0:42:03 > 0:42:06President Eisenhower, and General Macarthur.

0:42:06 > 0:42:08Earlier, the Senator asked,

0:42:08 > 0:42:11"Upon what meat does this our Caesar feed?"

0:42:11 > 0:42:14Had he looked three lines earlier in Shakespeare's Caesar,

0:42:14 > 0:42:15he would have found this line,

0:42:15 > 0:42:17which is not all together inappropriate.

0:42:17 > 0:42:18"The fault, dear Brutus,

0:42:18 > 0:42:21"is not in our stars, but in ourselves."

0:42:21 > 0:42:24No one familiar with the history of this country can deny

0:42:24 > 0:42:27that congressional committees are useful.

0:42:27 > 0:42:29It is necessary to investigate before legislating,

0:42:29 > 0:42:32but the line between investigating and persecuting

0:42:32 > 0:42:33is a very fine one.

0:42:33 > 0:42:35And the Junior Senator from Wisconsin

0:42:35 > 0:42:36has stepped over it repeatedly.

0:42:36 > 0:42:40We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.

0:42:40 > 0:42:43We must remember always that accusation is not proof,

0:42:43 > 0:42:45and that conviction depends upon evidence

0:42:45 > 0:42:47and due process of law.

0:42:47 > 0:42:50We will not walk in fear, one of another.

0:42:50 > 0:42:53We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason.

0:42:53 > 0:42:56If we dig deep in our history and our doctrine,

0:42:56 > 0:42:59and remember that we are not descended from fearful men,

0:42:59 > 0:43:02not from men who feared to write, to associate, to speak,

0:43:02 > 0:43:06and to defend the causes that were, for the moment, unpopular.

0:43:06 > 0:43:09This is no time for men who oppose Senator McCarthy's methods

0:43:09 > 0:43:13to keep silent, or for those who approve.

0:43:13 > 0:43:15We can deny our heritage and our history,

0:43:15 > 0:43:19but we cannot escape responsibility for the results.

0:43:19 > 0:43:21We proclaim ourselves, indeed as we are,

0:43:21 > 0:43:23the defenders of freedom

0:43:23 > 0:43:25wherever it continues to exist in the world.

0:43:25 > 0:43:28But we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

0:43:28 > 0:43:31The actions of the Junior Senator from Wisconsin

0:43:31 > 0:43:34have caused alarm and dismay amongst our allies abroad

0:43:34 > 0:43:37and given considerable comfort to our enemies.

0:43:37 > 0:43:39And whose fault is that?

0:43:39 > 0:43:41Not really his.

0:43:41 > 0:43:43He didn't create this situation of fear,

0:43:43 > 0:43:46he merely exploited it, and rather successfully.

0:43:47 > 0:43:49Cassius was right.

0:43:49 > 0:43:52"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,

0:43:52 > 0:43:54"but in ourselves."

0:43:54 > 0:43:56Good night, and good luck.

0:44:03 > 0:44:06FRIENDLY: And we're out.

0:44:17 > 0:44:19Nothing?

0:44:21 > 0:44:24Well, maybe nobody watched.

0:44:28 > 0:44:29WILLIAMS: We got nothing.

0:44:29 > 0:44:30I don't know. Nothing.

0:44:30 > 0:44:33SIMON: Should I turn the phones back on, Mr Williams?

0:44:35 > 0:44:38Yes, I think now would be a good time for that.

0:44:38 > 0:44:40Turn the phones on! PHONES RING

0:44:40 > 0:44:41Turn the phones right on.

0:44:41 > 0:44:44It's the Junior Senator calling collect.

0:44:44 > 0:44:46Don't kid yourself. It's Reed Harris

0:44:46 > 0:44:48thanking us for putting him on the best-seller list.

0:44:48 > 0:44:50I don t know whether all of you have seen what I just saw,

0:44:50 > 0:44:53but I want to associate myself and this programme

0:44:53 > 0:44:55with what Ed Murrow has just said,

0:44:55 > 0:44:59and say I have never been prouder of CBS.

0:44:59 > 0:45:01Great show.

0:45:01 > 0:45:04HOLLENBECK: ...McCarthy said today that he would demand equal free...

0:45:04 > 0:45:07PHONES STILL RING

0:45:09 > 0:45:10PHONES RING

0:45:10 > 0:45:14HOLLENBECK: ...charged that the senator made demagoguery and deceit

0:45:14 > 0:45:17the national policy of the Republican Party.

0:45:17 > 0:45:18You got Hollenbeck?

0:45:18 > 0:45:20Congratulations. Great show. Good work.

0:45:20 > 0:45:22Feel like a scotch?

0:45:22 > 0:45:26I think everybody could use a scotch.

0:45:30 > 0:45:34MUSIC PLAYS: "You're Driving Me Crazy" by Dianne Reeves

0:45:34 > 0:45:37# You You're drivin' me crazy

0:45:37 > 0:45:39# What did I do?

0:45:39 > 0:45:40# What did I do?

0:45:40 > 0:45:42# My tears for you

0:45:42 > 0:45:44# Make everything hazy

0:45:44 > 0:45:47# Cloudin' the sky of blue

0:45:48 > 0:45:50# How true

0:45:50 > 0:45:51# Were the friends who were near me to cheer me?

0:45:51 > 0:45:53# Believe me, they knew But you

0:45:53 > 0:45:55# Were the one who would hurt me, desert me

0:45:55 > 0:45:56# When I needed you

0:45:56 > 0:45:59# Oh, you You're drivin' me crazy

0:45:59 > 0:46:04# What did I do to you...? #

0:46:14 > 0:46:16It's 3:30. Early editions are out.

0:46:16 > 0:46:17MURROW: I'm not worried.

0:46:17 > 0:46:18No, of course not.

0:46:18 > 0:46:20Shirley, honey, would you go across the street

0:46:20 > 0:46:22and get the early editions? All of them?

0:46:22 > 0:46:24Just get O'Brian.

0:46:24 > 0:46:26LAUGHTER

0:46:26 > 0:46:28Hey, watch my drink.

0:46:28 > 0:46:30Yeah.

0:46:31 > 0:46:36# ..What did I do to you? #

0:46:58 > 0:46:59ZOUSMER: Well?

0:46:59 > 0:47:02SHIRLEY: OK, here we go.

0:47:02 > 0:47:03At last.

0:47:03 > 0:47:04The Times.

0:47:04 > 0:47:05Right on time.

0:47:05 > 0:47:07SCOTT: Good. Who wrote it?

0:47:07 > 0:47:08Jack Gould.

0:47:08 > 0:47:10Gould? Ah...

0:47:10 > 0:47:12"Edward R Murrow's television programme

0:47:12 > 0:47:13"on Senator Joseph R McCarthy

0:47:13 > 0:47:15"was an exciting and provocative examination

0:47:15 > 0:47:17"of the man and his methods.

0:47:17 > 0:47:19"It was crusading journalism

0:47:19 > 0:47:21"of high responsibility and courage.

0:47:21 > 0:47:23"For TV so often plagued by timidity and hesitation,

0:47:23 > 0:47:25"the programme was a milestone

0:47:25 > 0:47:27"that reflected enlightened citizenship..."

0:47:27 > 0:47:29"The programme..." Hold on.

0:47:29 > 0:47:32"The programme was no less an indictment of those who wish

0:47:32 > 0:47:34"the problems posed by the Senator's tactics

0:47:34 > 0:47:36"and theatrics would just go away and leave them alone."

0:47:36 > 0:47:39"That was Mr Murrow's and television's triumph

0:47:39 > 0:47:41"and a very great one."

0:47:44 > 0:47:45Hear, hear.

0:47:45 > 0:47:46FRIENDLY: He hated it.

0:47:46 > 0:47:48MURROW: Yeah, what's his beef, huh?

0:47:48 > 0:47:50Send the New York Times a bottle of scotch.

0:47:50 > 0:47:51I did. How do you think we got that review?

0:47:51 > 0:47:53ZOUSMER: How's The Post?

0:47:53 > 0:47:54WERSHBA: Pretty good.

0:47:54 > 0:47:55What about O'Brian?

0:47:55 > 0:47:57SHIRLEY: Uh, the same.

0:47:57 > 0:47:58LAUGHTER

0:47:58 > 0:48:00Go on, go on. Read O'Brian.

0:48:00 > 0:48:01Uh, I don't have it. Got it.

0:48:01 > 0:48:04Oh, here. Here we go.

0:48:04 > 0:48:06Shirley, that...

0:48:09 > 0:48:11"We can't say we were surprised

0:48:11 > 0:48:14"at Edward R Murrow's Hate McCarthy telecast last evening,

0:48:14 > 0:48:16"when his explosively one-sided propaganda,

0:48:16 > 0:48:19"edited with deviously clever selectivity from McCarthy's

0:48:19 > 0:48:22"march against communism, was finished last evening.

0:48:22 > 0:48:24"By equally machiavellian coincidence

0:48:24 > 0:48:28"the following telecast featured Murrow's PM protege, Hollenbeck.

0:48:28 > 0:48:30"In an obviously gloating mood,

0:48:30 > 0:48:33"Hollenbeck hoped viewers had witnessed

0:48:33 > 0:48:35"his patron's triumph from and for the Left."

0:48:36 > 0:48:37Hm.

0:48:37 > 0:48:38So on.

0:48:38 > 0:48:40HOLLENBECK: Shirley, it's OK. Finish it.

0:48:40 > 0:48:42No, that's it. Shirley, please.

0:48:42 > 0:48:44Finish it.

0:48:46 > 0:48:49"The Columbia Broadcasting System has been in a lengthy

0:48:49 > 0:48:51"clean house of Lefties mood.

0:48:51 > 0:48:53"The worst offenders on lesser levels

0:48:53 > 0:48:55"have been quietly pushed out of the company.

0:48:55 > 0:48:57"Don Hollenbeck, a graduate of the demised

0:48:57 > 0:49:01"pinko publication PM, attacked conservative papers

0:49:01 > 0:49:03"with sly and slanted propaganda.

0:49:03 > 0:49:05"He then proceeded through an equally..."

0:49:05 > 0:49:07SHIRLEY SIGHS

0:49:07 > 0:49:09"..tilted review of the day's events with McCarthy

0:49:09 > 0:49:12"dominating his words, actions, attitudes."

0:49:12 > 0:49:13So on, so on.

0:49:16 > 0:49:17It's O'Brian.

0:49:17 > 0:49:19Yeah. He didn't get the scotch, that's all.

0:49:19 > 0:49:21SCOTT: Grammatically correct?

0:49:21 > 0:49:23I'll have that cigarette, Ed.

0:49:23 > 0:49:26PALMER: Thanks, Shirley. SHIRLEY: Ah.

0:49:26 > 0:49:31ZOUSMER: Thank you. Joe, Shirley.

0:49:31 > 0:49:32For the leg work.

0:49:34 > 0:49:36FRIENDLY: It doesn't add up.

0:49:37 > 0:49:39SHIRLEY: Yeah.

0:49:39 > 0:49:42SHE CHUCKLES To Jack Gould.

0:49:42 > 0:49:44FRIENDLY: To Jack, to Jack, to Jack Gould.

0:49:44 > 0:49:46SHIRLEY: I love Jack Gould!

0:49:46 > 0:49:48AARON: A scholar and a gentleman.

0:49:48 > 0:49:49SCOTT: May he rest in peace.

0:49:51 > 0:49:52Hello, Jimmy.

0:49:52 > 0:49:53Fred, congratulations.

0:49:53 > 0:49:55Thank you.

0:49:55 > 0:49:56I got a hangover you wouldn't believe.

0:49:56 > 0:49:58All the ad guys on the third floor watched the show.

0:49:58 > 0:50:00Got a good review in The New York Times.

0:50:00 > 0:50:02Switchboard lit up all night. Jack Gould.

0:50:02 > 0:50:04Putting out a press release that said calls came in 15-1

0:50:04 > 0:50:05in favour of the show. Really?

0:50:05 > 0:50:08We got calls from everywhere.

0:50:08 > 0:50:09East coast or the west coast?

0:50:09 > 0:50:12Yeah. Kansas City, Cincinnati.

0:50:12 > 0:50:14Mr Paley.

0:50:14 > 0:50:15Morning, Fred.

0:50:15 > 0:50:17Good morning, Mr Paley.

0:50:21 > 0:50:23How's your wife?

0:50:23 > 0:50:25She's fine. Getting ready to move.

0:50:25 > 0:50:26Really? Where to?

0:50:26 > 0:50:27Riverdale. We found a nice house there.

0:50:27 > 0:50:29Yeah. It's nice there.

0:50:29 > 0:50:31Yes, sir.

0:50:37 > 0:50:38Excuse me.

0:50:38 > 0:50:39Fred,

0:50:39 > 0:50:43McCarthy wants William Buckley to do his rebuttal.

0:50:43 > 0:50:46I said no.

0:50:46 > 0:50:48Yes, sir.

0:50:53 > 0:50:54Hey, Johnny.

0:50:54 > 0:50:56Radulovich has been reinstated.

0:50:56 > 0:50:58AARON: What?

0:50:58 > 0:51:00Guys, guys, Radulovich has been reinstated.

0:51:00 > 0:51:01AARON: Jesse, Jesse!

0:51:01 > 0:51:03Where did you hear this?

0:51:03 > 0:51:06Got some good news. Got some very good news.

0:51:06 > 0:51:09Special announcement from the Secretary of the Air Force.

0:51:09 > 0:51:10Fellas. Fellas, listen up!

0:51:10 > 0:51:11Everyone.

0:51:11 > 0:51:13"I have decided that it is consistent

0:51:13 > 0:51:15"with the interests of the national security

0:51:15 > 0:51:18"to retain Lieutenant Radulovich in the United States Air Force.

0:51:18 > 0:51:20"Stop.

0:51:20 > 0:51:22"He is not, in my opinion, a security risk.

0:51:22 > 0:51:23"Full stop."

0:51:23 > 0:51:25CHEERS AND LAUGHTER

0:51:25 > 0:51:26There you go.

0:51:26 > 0:51:28Harold E Talbott, Secretary from the Air Force.

0:51:28 > 0:51:31FRIENDLY: Congratulations. Great job.

0:51:31 > 0:51:33Make a copy of that for me. I will do, Fred.

0:51:33 > 0:51:35Good job, Don.

0:51:35 > 0:51:36All right! SCOTT: this means something.

0:51:36 > 0:51:38This absolutely means something, you know it does.

0:51:38 > 0:51:41ZOUSMER: Absolutely. This is the start of...

0:51:41 > 0:51:42TYPEWRITER CLACKS

0:51:48 > 0:51:50Palmer?

0:51:52 > 0:51:55The CBS lawyers wanna talk to you.

0:51:57 > 0:52:00When? Tomorrow.

0:52:00 > 0:52:02FRIENDLY: I don't want you to get paranoid.

0:52:02 > 0:52:04They're talking to everybody.

0:52:04 > 0:52:06PALMER: Any ideas?

0:52:06 > 0:52:08Just tell them what you know.

0:52:08 > 0:52:09COHN (ON TV): Now, is that testimony true?

0:52:09 > 0:52:11MOSS: No, sir, it is not.

0:52:11 > 0:52:13Not at any time have I been a member

0:52:13 > 0:52:14of a communist party,

0:52:14 > 0:52:16and I have never seen a communist card.

0:52:16 > 0:52:17You've never seen a communist card?

0:52:17 > 0:52:19That's right.

0:52:19 > 0:52:20Have you ever attended any meetings?

0:52:20 > 0:52:22No, sir, I ve never attended any communist meetings.

0:52:22 > 0:52:25Have you ever subscribed to The Daily Worker?

0:52:25 > 0:52:27No, sir, I didn t subscribe for The Daily Worker,

0:52:27 > 0:52:28and I wouldn't pay for it.

0:52:28 > 0:52:32McCARTHY: Uh, now, Mrs Markward,

0:52:32 > 0:52:34who was working for the FBI,

0:52:34 > 0:52:37who joined the Communist Party under orders from the FBI,

0:52:37 > 0:52:39has testified that while she never met you

0:52:39 > 0:52:42personally at a communist meeting,

0:52:42 > 0:52:44that your name was on the list

0:52:44 > 0:52:47of communists who were paying dues.

0:52:47 > 0:52:51Uh, can you shed any light upon that?

0:52:51 > 0:52:52No, sir. I don t even know

0:52:52 > 0:52:55what the dues are or where they were paid.

0:52:55 > 0:52:57McCARTHY: So I understand you have never paid any money

0:52:57 > 0:53:00to the Communist Party, is that correct?

0:53:00 > 0:53:02That's right.

0:53:02 > 0:53:04You've never paid any dues...

0:53:04 > 0:53:06Right, thank you, Leo. Thank you very much.

0:53:06 > 0:53:09Good work, Joe, Charlie.

0:53:09 > 0:53:10Now, what is the show?

0:53:10 > 0:53:13Is it defending Annie Lee Moss as not being a communist?

0:53:13 > 0:53:15Or is it her constitutional rights?

0:53:15 > 0:53:18I think we're much better sticking up for constitutional issues.

0:53:18 > 0:53:19Agreed? The woman is not a spy.

0:53:19 > 0:53:22FRIENDLY: McCarthy said that they have a spy in the Pentagon,

0:53:22 > 0:53:24that spy has gotten into the code room,

0:53:24 > 0:53:26and that that spy is Annie Lee Moss.

0:53:26 > 0:53:27I've got New York Times reports,

0:53:27 > 0:53:29"McCarthy asserts he has a new red link to army."

0:53:29 > 0:53:31Quote, "Senator mccarthy charged today that the army

0:53:31 > 0:53:33"now employs a woman in its code room

0:53:33 > 0:53:35"who was, and still may be,

0:53:35 > 0:53:36an active communist," unquote.

0:53:36 > 0:53:38Front page of The New York Times. Three days ago.

0:53:38 > 0:53:41WERSHBA: No sooner is he done chastising the other committee members

0:53:41 > 0:53:43for wanting to push it to the afternoon,

0:53:43 > 0:53:45then seven questions in, he ducks out.

0:53:45 > 0:53:46FRIENDLY: He leaves.

0:53:46 > 0:53:48It's all over the headlines all over the country.

0:53:48 > 0:53:49MURROW: Eddie, get me copies

0:53:49 > 0:53:51from any newspaper that printed anything

0:53:51 > 0:53:53about that assertion. Absolutely.|

0:53:53 > 0:53:55FRIENDLY: Get The Cincinnati Enquirer, all of them.

0:53:55 > 0:53:56Have a stack for the show.

0:53:56 > 0:53:58Couple other pieces I think we should include.

0:53:58 > 0:54:01The fact that there's three Annie Lee Mosses in the phone book.

0:54:01 > 0:54:03There are two Robert Halls.

0:54:03 > 0:54:04One's coloured, one's white.

0:54:04 > 0:54:07WILLIAMS: Charlie said we have some footage of the empty chair.

0:54:07 > 0:54:10That says it all. That picture of McCarthy not...

0:54:10 > 0:54:12McCarthy leaving the hearing after seven questions,

0:54:12 > 0:54:15and then we'll cut to the shot of the chair.

0:54:15 > 0:54:16All right, so to that end...

0:54:16 > 0:54:19Excuse me, fellas. Mr Murrow.

0:54:19 > 0:54:22McCarthy wants April 6th.

0:54:24 > 0:54:25Thank you, Natalie.

0:54:29 > 0:54:32Fine. If Charlie shoots it, we get to see it first.

0:54:32 > 0:54:33We should ask. We should offer.

0:54:33 > 0:54:36What the hell could McCarthy possibly do?

0:54:36 > 0:54:38Is he gonna debate himself? We just used his words.

0:54:38 > 0:54:39Can't he use Buckley?

0:54:39 > 0:54:41We used the original transcripts.

0:54:41 > 0:54:43Johnny, Johnny, we know what it's going to be.

0:54:43 > 0:54:46He's going to come after me. There's nothing more he can do.

0:54:46 > 0:54:49He's gonna bet that a senator trumps a newsman.

0:54:49 > 0:54:51FRIENDLY: He'll lose.

0:54:51 > 0:54:53Well, not if we're playing bridge.

0:54:53 > 0:54:54KNOCK ON DOOR

0:54:54 > 0:54:55Oh, I m sorry, guys.

0:54:55 > 0:54:58Didn't mean to interrupt. FRIENDLY: Hey, don.

0:54:58 > 0:54:59Uh, Ed, you have a minute?

0:54:59 > 0:55:01Yes, Don, I ll be right there.

0:55:01 > 0:55:02FRIENDLY: All right, boys.

0:55:02 > 0:55:03WERSHBA: All right, playtime's over.

0:55:03 > 0:55:06We have four days to do a 28-minute show.

0:55:06 > 0:55:09MURROW: Sorry. Oh, that s all right, Ed.

0:55:09 > 0:55:10Hi, Mary. Hello, Mr Hollenbeck.

0:55:10 > 0:55:11Give us a moment, please, dear?

0:55:11 > 0:55:13MARY: Certainly.

0:55:14 > 0:55:17HOLLENBECK: Thank you, dear. Thank you.

0:55:17 > 0:55:19I have to ask you something, Ed.

0:55:19 > 0:55:20It's about O'Brian.

0:55:20 > 0:55:22He doesn't matter. He's killing me.

0:55:22 > 0:55:23Doesn't matter in the newsroom.

0:55:23 > 0:55:25It's not just him. We ought to let that guy have it.

0:55:25 > 0:55:26We have to expose O'Brian.

0:55:26 > 0:55:28I will not take on McCarthy and Hearst.

0:55:28 > 0:55:30I can't defeat them both.

0:55:30 > 0:55:32Just don't read the papers.

0:55:32 > 0:55:35Or don't read O'Brian, anyway.

0:55:38 > 0:55:40OK.

0:55:40 > 0:55:42I guess not.

0:55:42 > 0:55:43I'm sorry, Don.

0:55:56 > 0:55:58Although Miss Moss offered to testify...

0:55:58 > 0:56:00Senator Mundt, South Dakota.

0:56:00 > 0:56:02...Senator McCarthy suggested that she was too sick...

0:56:02 > 0:56:04Mr Cohn wanted to know about Mrs Moss's connection...

0:56:04 > 0:56:07McCARTHY: Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth,

0:56:07 > 0:56:08the whole truth, and nothing but the truth,

0:56:08 > 0:56:10so help you God?

0:56:13 > 0:56:16COHN: May we get your full name for the record, please?

0:56:16 > 0:56:18Annie Lee Moss.

0:56:18 > 0:56:20M-o-s-s?

0:56:20 > 0:56:21That's right.

0:56:21 > 0:56:23McCARTHY: Mrs Moss, let me say for the record,

0:56:23 > 0:56:24for your information,

0:56:24 > 0:56:26for the information of your counsel,

0:56:26 > 0:56:29that you are not here because...

0:56:29 > 0:56:34you are considered important in the communist apparatus.

0:56:34 > 0:56:37We have the testimony that you are a...

0:56:37 > 0:56:39have been a communist.

0:56:39 > 0:56:41We are rather curious, however, to know that

0:56:41 > 0:56:45how you suddenly, uh, were shifted from,

0:56:45 > 0:56:50uh, a worker in a cafeteria to the code room.

0:56:50 > 0:56:51In other words,

0:56:51 > 0:56:54I am today much more interested

0:56:54 > 0:56:59in the handling of your case by your superiors

0:56:59 > 0:57:01than in your own personal activities.

0:57:01 > 0:57:04However, counsel will question you

0:57:04 > 0:57:05about your own activities also.

0:57:05 > 0:57:07MAN: Uh, Mr Chairman...

0:57:07 > 0:57:09We will not hear from counsel.

0:57:09 > 0:57:11You have been told what the rule is.

0:57:11 > 0:57:14If you have anything to say, say it through your client.

0:57:17 > 0:57:19OK, then.

0:57:19 > 0:57:22COHN: Did you begin work at the general accounting office in,

0:57:22 > 0:57:23uh, 1945?

0:57:23 > 0:57:25Yes, sir.

0:57:25 > 0:57:27And, uh, prior to that time,

0:57:27 > 0:57:29had you been a cafeteria worker?

0:57:29 > 0:57:30Yes, I had.

0:57:30 > 0:57:31I see.

0:57:31 > 0:57:35Uh, while in the Pentagon, since 1950,

0:57:35 > 0:57:38have you had any connections with coded messages?

0:57:38 > 0:57:41Have you ever handled coded messages?

0:57:41 > 0:57:43No more than to transmit 'em.

0:57:43 > 0:57:44Pardon me?

0:57:44 > 0:57:46No more than to transmit the message.

0:57:46 > 0:57:47Than to transmit them? Mm-hmm.

0:57:47 > 0:57:48Did you transmit codes?

0:57:48 > 0:57:51Receive or to transmit messages was all I had to do.

0:57:51 > 0:57:52And then the courtroom,

0:57:52 > 0:57:54I've never been into a courtroom in my life.

0:57:54 > 0:57:58McCARTHY: Do you know the, uh... type of classification...?

0:57:58 > 0:58:01Do you know if they were secret, top-secret, confidential?

0:58:01 > 0:58:03No, sir.

0:58:03 > 0:58:04Other words, you wouldn't know

0:58:04 > 0:58:06the degree of classification?

0:58:06 > 0:58:07No, sir. I see.

0:58:07 > 0:58:08HE CLEARS THROAT

0:58:08 > 0:58:11I'm afraid I'm going to have to excuse myself,

0:58:11 > 0:58:12I've got, uh,

0:58:12 > 0:58:15a rather important appointment tonight,

0:58:15 > 0:58:17which I've got to work on right now,

0:58:17 > 0:58:19and I wonder if, Senator Mundt,

0:58:19 > 0:58:23you would take over as chairman.

0:58:25 > 0:58:27Chairman, uh... MUNDT: Cohn?

0:58:27 > 0:58:30..I have no further questions of this witness at this time.

0:58:30 > 0:58:32I can say this, we have the testimony

0:58:32 > 0:58:35of Mrs Markward, the undercover agent for the FBI,

0:58:35 > 0:58:37stating that Annie Lee Moss was a member,

0:58:37 > 0:58:40a due-paying member of the Communist Party,

0:58:40 > 0:58:42uh, the Northeast Club of the Communist Party.

0:58:42 > 0:58:45We have corroboration of that testimony

0:58:45 > 0:58:47by another witness,

0:58:47 > 0:58:48who was called before the committee

0:58:48 > 0:58:50and gave a sworn statement to the effect

0:58:50 > 0:58:52that she also knew Mrs Moss

0:58:52 > 0:58:56as a member of the Northeast Club of the Communist Party.

0:58:56 > 0:58:57She's already lost her job.

0:58:57 > 0:59:00She's been suspended because of this action.

0:59:00 > 0:59:01I'm not defending her.

0:59:01 > 0:59:04If she's a communist, I want her exposed.

0:59:04 > 0:59:05But to make these statements

0:59:05 > 0:59:07as we've got corroborating evidence

0:59:07 > 0:59:09that she is a communist,

0:59:09 > 0:59:12under these circumstances, I think she's entitled

0:59:12 > 0:59:14to have it produced here in her presence

0:59:14 > 0:59:16and let the public know about it

0:59:16 > 0:59:18and let her know about it.

0:59:18 > 0:59:21APPLAUSE

0:59:21 > 0:59:25McCLELLAN: I don't like to try people by hearsay evidence.

0:59:25 > 0:59:28I'd like to get the witnesses here and try them...

0:59:28 > 0:59:29APPLAUSE

0:59:29 > 0:59:31...by testimony under oath.

0:59:31 > 0:59:35MUNDT: The chair will rule that the comment of Mr Cohn

0:59:35 > 0:59:37be stricken from the record.

0:59:37 > 0:59:39Well, I didn't ask that. Mr Chairman.

0:59:39 > 0:59:42MUNDT: ...Whether we should try to produce a witness in public

0:59:42 > 0:59:44because the FBI may have her undercover,

0:59:44 > 0:59:46and we don t want to...

0:59:46 > 0:59:48You can't strike these statements made by counsel here

0:59:48 > 0:59:51as to evidence that we're having and withholding.

0:59:51 > 0:59:54You cannot strike that from the press,

0:59:54 > 0:59:56nor from the public mind once it's planted there.

0:59:56 > 1:00:00That's the... that is the, uh...

1:00:00 > 1:00:02evil of it.

1:00:02 > 1:00:05I don't think it's fair to a witness,

1:00:05 > 1:00:07to a citizen of this country, to bring 'em up here

1:00:07 > 1:00:10and cross-examine 'em, then when they get through, say,

1:00:10 > 1:00:12"The FBI has got something on you that condemns you."

1:00:12 > 1:00:14MUNDT: The chair agrees...

1:00:14 > 1:00:16It is not sworn testimony,

1:00:16 > 1:00:19it's convicting people by rumour and hearsay and innuendo.

1:00:19 > 1:00:20APPLAUSE

1:00:20 > 1:00:22You will notice

1:00:22 > 1:00:24that neither Senator McClellan or Senator Symington,

1:00:24 > 1:00:25nor this reporter,

1:00:25 > 1:00:29know or claim that Mrs Moss was or is a communist.

1:00:29 > 1:00:31Their claim was simply that she had the right

1:00:31 > 1:00:34to meet her accusers face to face.

1:00:34 > 1:00:37TYPEWRITER CLACKS

1:00:47 > 1:00:49MURROW: 'One month ago tonight,

1:00:49 > 1:00:52'we presented a report on Senator Joseph R McCarthy.

1:00:52 > 1:00:54'We labeled it as controversial.

1:00:54 > 1:00:55'Most of that report

1:00:55 > 1:00:58'consisted of words and pictures of the senator.

1:00:58 > 1:01:00'At that time we said,

1:01:00 > 1:01:01'if the senator believes

1:01:01 > 1:01:04'we have done violence to his words or pictures,

1:01:04 > 1:01:06'if he desires to speak, to answer himself,

1:01:06 > 1:01:09'an opportunity would be afforded him on this programme.

1:01:09 > 1:01:14'The senator sought the opportunity, asked for a delay of three weeks'

1:01:14 > 1:01:15because he said he was very busy,

1:01:15 > 1:01:19and he wished adequate time to prepare his reply. We agreed.

1:01:19 > 1:01:22We placed no restrictions on the manner or method

1:01:22 > 1:01:23of the presentation of his reply,

1:01:23 > 1:01:26and we suggested that we would not take time

1:01:26 > 1:01:28to comment on this particular programme.

1:01:28 > 1:01:31Here now is Senator Joseph R McCarthy,

1:01:31 > 1:01:33Junior Senator from Wisconsin.

1:01:33 > 1:01:35McCARTHY (OVER SPEAKERS): Uh, good evening.

1:01:35 > 1:01:38Mr Edward R Murrow, educational director

1:01:38 > 1:01:41of the Columbia Broadcasting System,

1:01:41 > 1:01:44devoted his programme to an attack on the work

1:01:44 > 1:01:46of the United States Senate investigating committee,

1:01:46 > 1:01:49and on me personally as its chairman.

1:01:49 > 1:01:51Now, over the past four years,

1:01:51 > 1:01:53he has made repeated attacks upon me

1:01:53 > 1:01:56and those fighting communists.

1:01:56 > 1:01:58Now, of course, neither Joe McCarthy,

1:01:58 > 1:02:00nor Edward R Murrow,

1:02:00 > 1:02:03is of any great importance as individuals.

1:02:03 > 1:02:06We are only important in our relation

1:02:06 > 1:02:07to the great struggle

1:02:07 > 1:02:10to preserve our American liberties.

1:02:10 > 1:02:11Now, ordinarily...

1:02:11 > 1:02:13ordinarily, I would not take time out

1:02:13 > 1:02:17from the important work at hand to answer Murrow.

1:02:17 > 1:02:20However, in this case, I feel justified in doing so

1:02:20 > 1:02:24because Murrow is the symbol, the leader,

1:02:24 > 1:02:27and the cleverest of the jackal pack,

1:02:27 > 1:02:28which is always found

1:02:28 > 1:02:31at the throat of anyone who dares to expose

1:02:31 > 1:02:34individual communists and traitors.

1:02:34 > 1:02:37And I am compelled by the facts

1:02:37 > 1:02:39to say to you that Mr Edward R Murrow,

1:02:39 > 1:02:43as far back as 20 years ago,

1:02:43 > 1:02:47was engaged in propaganda for communist causes.

1:02:47 > 1:02:50For example, the Institute of International Education,

1:02:50 > 1:02:53of which he was the acting director,

1:02:53 > 1:02:56was chosen to act as a representative

1:02:56 > 1:03:00by a Soviet agency to do a job

1:03:00 > 1:03:05which would normally be done by the Russian secret police.

1:03:05 > 1:03:08Now, Mr Murrow, by his own admission, was a member of the IWW.

1:03:08 > 1:03:11That's the Industrial Workers of the World,

1:03:11 > 1:03:14a terrorist organisation cited as subversive

1:03:14 > 1:03:17by an Attorney General of the United States.

1:03:17 > 1:03:19Now, Mr Murrow said on this programme...

1:03:19 > 1:03:20and I quote,

1:03:20 > 1:03:25he said, "The actions of the Junior Senator from Wisconsin

1:03:25 > 1:03:30"have given considerable comfort to the enemy."

1:03:30 > 1:03:33That is the language of our statute of treason,

1:03:33 > 1:03:35rather strong language.

1:03:35 > 1:03:38If I am giving comfort to our enemies,

1:03:38 > 1:03:40I ought not to be in the Senate.

1:03:40 > 1:03:41If on the other hand,

1:03:41 > 1:03:44Mr Murrow is giving comfort to our enemies,

1:03:44 > 1:03:47he ought not to be brought into the homes

1:03:47 > 1:03:49of millions of Americans

1:03:49 > 1:03:52by the Columbia Broadcasting System.

1:03:52 > 1:03:56And I want to assure you that I will not be deterred

1:03:56 > 1:04:03by the attacks of the Murrows, the Lattimores, the Fosters,

1:04:03 > 1:04:08The Daily Worker, or the Communist Party itself.

1:04:09 > 1:04:13And I make no claim to leadership.

1:04:14 > 1:04:17In complete humility,

1:04:17 > 1:04:22I do ask you and every American who loves this country

1:04:22 > 1:04:24to join with me.

1:04:51 > 1:04:54MAN: Everyone talks about the weather.

1:04:54 > 1:04:57Wherever you look on America's modern farms,

1:04:57 > 1:04:59aluminum is on the job,

1:04:59 > 1:05:02helping the farmer do something about the weather.

1:05:02 > 1:05:05Aluminum for the farm is one more example of how ALCOA,

1:05:05 > 1:05:09since 1888, has continued to pioneer

1:05:09 > 1:05:11new uses for this vital metal.

1:05:11 > 1:05:14New uses of aluminum that mean better farms

1:05:14 > 1:05:15and better farming.

1:05:15 > 1:05:20The aluminum from the nation's first and leading producer,

1:05:20 > 1:05:21ALCOA,

1:05:21 > 1:05:24Aluminum Company Of America.

1:05:24 > 1:05:26Last week, Senator McCarthy appeared on this programme

1:05:26 > 1:05:27to correct any errors

1:05:27 > 1:05:30he might have thought we made in our report of March 9th.

1:05:30 > 1:05:31Since he made no reference

1:05:31 > 1:05:33to any statements of fact that we made,

1:05:33 > 1:05:37we must conclude that he found no errors of fact.

1:05:37 > 1:05:39He proved again that anyone who exposes him,

1:05:39 > 1:05:42anyone who does not share his hysterical disregard

1:05:42 > 1:05:44for decency and human dignity

1:05:44 > 1:05:46and the rights guaranteed by the constitution,

1:05:46 > 1:05:50must be either a communist or a fellow traveller.

1:05:50 > 1:05:52I fully expected this treatment.

1:05:52 > 1:05:54The senator added this reporter's name

1:05:54 > 1:05:56to a long list of individuals and institutions

1:05:56 > 1:05:59he has accused of serving the communist cause.

1:05:59 > 1:06:01His proposition is very simple:

1:06:01 > 1:06:05anyone who criticises or opposes Senator McCarthy's methods

1:06:05 > 1:06:07must be a communist.

1:06:07 > 1:06:08And if that be true,

1:06:08 > 1:06:11there are an awful lot of communists in this country.

1:06:11 > 1:06:13For the record, let's consider briefly

1:06:13 > 1:06:15some of the senator's charges.

1:06:15 > 1:06:17He claimed, but offered no proof,

1:06:17 > 1:06:20that I had been a member of the Industrial Workers of the World.

1:06:20 > 1:06:22That is false.

1:06:22 > 1:06:26I was never a member of the IWW, never applied for membership.

1:06:26 > 1:06:29The senator charged that Professor Harold Laski,

1:06:29 > 1:06:32a British scholar and politician, dedicated a book to me.

1:06:32 > 1:06:33That's true.

1:06:33 > 1:06:34He is dead.

1:06:34 > 1:06:37He was a socialist. I am not.

1:06:37 > 1:06:40He was one of those civilised individuals who did not insist

1:06:40 > 1:06:42upon agreement with his political principles

1:06:42 > 1:06:45as a pre-condition for conversation or friendship.

1:06:45 > 1:06:49I do not agree with his political ideas.

1:06:49 > 1:06:51Laski, as he makes clear in the introduction,

1:06:51 > 1:06:52dedicated the book to me

1:06:52 > 1:06:54not because of political agreement,

1:06:54 > 1:06:56but because he held

1:06:56 > 1:06:59my wartime broadcasts from London in high regard,

1:06:59 > 1:07:01and the dedication so reads.

1:07:01 > 1:07:05I believed 20 years ago and I believe today

1:07:05 > 1:07:08that mature Americans can engage in conversation and controversy,

1:07:08 > 1:07:09the clash of ideas,

1:07:09 > 1:07:11with communists anywhere in the world

1:07:11 > 1:07:14without becoming contaminated or converted.

1:07:14 > 1:07:16I believe that our faith,

1:07:16 > 1:07:18our conviction, our determination,

1:07:18 > 1:07:20are stronger than theirs,

1:07:20 > 1:07:22and that we can compete, and successfully,

1:07:22 > 1:07:28not only in the area of bombs, but in the area of ideas.

1:07:28 > 1:07:32I have worked for CBS for more than 19 years.

1:07:32 > 1:07:34The company has subscribed fully

1:07:34 > 1:07:36to my integrity and responsibility

1:07:36 > 1:07:38as a broadcaster and as a loyal American.

1:07:38 > 1:07:40I require no lectures

1:07:40 > 1:07:42from the Junior Senator from Wisconsin

1:07:42 > 1:07:45as to the dangers or terrors of communism.

1:07:45 > 1:07:48Having searched my conscience and my files,

1:07:48 > 1:07:51I cannot contend that I have always been right or wise,

1:07:51 > 1:07:53but I have attempted to pursue the truth with some diligence

1:07:53 > 1:07:55and to report it.

1:07:55 > 1:07:56Even though, as in this case,

1:07:56 > 1:07:59I had been warned in advance that I would be subjected

1:07:59 > 1:08:02to the attentions of Senator McCarthy.

1:08:02 > 1:08:04We shall hope to deal with matters

1:08:04 > 1:08:07of more vital interest to the country next week.

1:08:07 > 1:08:09Good night, and good luck.

1:08:15 > 1:08:18ZOUSMER: "In the last analysis, the senator was perched

1:08:18 > 1:08:19"on the television high dive

1:08:19 > 1:08:21"and all prepared to make a resounding splash.

1:08:21 > 1:08:23"He jumped beautifully, but he neglected

1:08:23 > 1:08:25"to check first where he was going going to land.

1:08:25 > 1:08:27"It must have been something of a shock

1:08:27 > 1:08:29"to discover that Mr Murrow

1:08:29 > 1:08:31"had drained the water out of the pool."

1:08:31 > 1:08:33Is that The Times - Gould?

1:08:33 > 1:08:34Yeah, Jack Gould at The Times.

1:08:34 > 1:08:36Wow, he's a hell of a writer.

1:08:36 > 1:08:38Hire him. If we could afford him!

1:08:38 > 1:08:39Stan's got a public opinion...

1:08:39 > 1:08:41The Senate's investigating McCarthy.

1:08:41 > 1:08:43..What?

1:08:43 > 1:08:45The Army's charging that McCarthy and Cohn

1:08:45 > 1:08:47exercised undue pressure to get

1:08:47 > 1:08:49preferential treatment for Schine. Who's the source? >

1:08:49 > 1:08:50It's unimpeachable.

1:08:50 > 1:08:52You have a second source?

1:08:52 > 1:08:54There's not a second source but this is coming out on the wire in 2 hours.

1:08:54 > 1:08:56Who's heading the investigation?

1:08:56 > 1:08:59Well, it's not gonna be McCarthy!

1:08:59 > 1:08:59What happened?

1:08:59 > 1:09:01Call The Washington Post. Get a second source.

1:09:01 > 1:09:03Hey, it's Palmer Williams for Jack Thompson.

1:09:03 > 1:09:05The senate's investigating McCarthy.

1:09:05 > 1:09:08There is an added bit of comedy to this story.

1:09:08 > 1:09:12The committee cannot convene for several days because McCarthy

1:09:12 > 1:09:14has a slight case of laryngitis... REPORTERS: Aw!

1:09:14 > 1:09:17..and he must recover in the desert air of Arizona.

1:09:17 > 1:09:19Aw! Aw!

1:09:19 > 1:09:20But stevens is going after him,

1:09:20 > 1:09:23and it looks like Joe Welch. Yeah?

1:09:23 > 1:09:25They're gonna allow each side to call witnesses

1:09:25 > 1:09:27and be privy to other testimony.

1:09:27 > 1:09:30SCOTT: Hey, Fred, can we start the meeting when I get back?

1:09:30 > 1:09:31We're gonna go talk to Thompson.

1:09:33 > 1:09:35(QUIETLY) No. Thanks, Jack. Bye.

1:09:35 > 1:09:38Well, Freddy, we're a hit.

1:09:38 > 1:09:40Right up there with howdy-doody, huh?

1:09:40 > 1:09:45AARON: Can I have an outside line, please?

1:09:46 > 1:09:50< Uh, Murray Hill... 3-1-2-7-6.

1:09:54 > 1:10:02# Somewhere there's music

1:10:03 > 1:10:10# How faint the tune... #

1:10:10 > 1:10:13"The fact of newscaster Don Hollenbeck s suicide yesterday

1:10:13 > 1:10:15"does not remove from the record

1:10:15 > 1:10:18"the peculiar history of the leftist slanting of the news

1:10:18 > 1:10:23"indulged consistently by the Columbia Broadcasting System.

1:10:23 > 1:10:25"Hollenbeck was what most astute students

1:10:25 > 1:10:28"of CBS's strange and questionable new methods

1:10:28 > 1:10:32"considered typical of its newscasters.

1:10:32 > 1:10:34"By Jack O'Brian."

1:10:34 > 1:10:40# ..When love is far away too

1:10:40 > 1:10:47# Till it comes true

1:10:48 > 1:10:52# That you love me

1:10:52 > 1:10:56# As I love you

1:10:58 > 1:11:04# Somewhere there's music

1:11:05 > 1:11:11# It's where you are

1:11:14 > 1:11:18# Somewhere there's heaven

1:11:20 > 1:11:23# How near

1:11:23 > 1:11:26# How far

1:11:28 > 1:11:31# The darkest night

1:11:31 > 1:11:36# Would shine if you

1:11:36 > 1:11:43# Would come to me soon

1:11:43 > 1:11:46# Until you will

1:11:46 > 1:11:50# How still my heart

1:11:50 > 1:11:54# How high

1:11:54 > 1:12:02# The moon. #

1:12:05 > 1:12:08SINGER: Oh, yeah. I like it like that.

1:12:08 > 1:12:10MURROW: 'One of the best programmes I ever heard

1:12:10 > 1:12:13'was called CBS Views The Press.'

1:12:13 > 1:12:15A great many people liked it. Some didn't.

1:12:15 > 1:12:18But no-one ever called it anything but honest.

1:12:18 > 1:12:21It was the work of an honest reporter,

1:12:21 > 1:12:23Don Hollenbeck.

1:12:23 > 1:12:26He also worked occasionally on See It Now.

1:12:26 > 1:12:29He did the 11 P.M. news over some of these stations.

1:12:29 > 1:12:32He had been sick lately, and he died this morning.

1:12:32 > 1:12:35The police said it was suicide.

1:12:35 > 1:12:36Gas.

1:12:36 > 1:12:38Not much of an obit,

1:12:38 > 1:12:41but at least we got our facts straight,

1:12:41 > 1:12:43and it was brief.

1:12:43 > 1:12:45And that's all Don Hollenbeck would have asked.

1:12:45 > 1:12:49Good night, and good luck.

1:12:53 > 1:12:56WERSHBA: I gotta be in Philadelphia this morning.

1:12:56 > 1:12:58What time is your train?

1:12:58 > 1:13:00Ooh... eight.

1:13:00 > 1:13:03Charlie going with you?

1:13:03 > 1:13:05Uh-huh.

1:13:12 > 1:13:14Here's a thought...

1:13:14 > 1:13:17what if we're wrong?

1:13:19 > 1:13:21We're not wrong.

1:13:21 > 1:13:25I'm not gonna look back...

1:13:25 > 1:13:27and say we protected the wrong side?

1:13:29 > 1:13:31Protected them from what?

1:13:31 > 1:13:36In the name of what? What would we be preserving?

1:13:37 > 1:13:41Argument could be made, for the greater good.

1:13:41 > 1:13:42Not once you give it all away.

1:13:42 > 1:13:44It's no good then.

1:13:44 > 1:13:47Hm. It's just a thought.

1:13:54 > 1:13:56WELCH: Senator, may we not drop this?

1:13:56 > 1:13:57We know he belonged to the Lawyers Guild.

1:13:57 > 1:14:00Mr Cohn nods his head at me.

1:14:00 > 1:14:05I did you, I think, no personal injury, Mr Cohn.

1:14:05 > 1:14:06No, sir.

1:14:06 > 1:14:08I meant to do you no personal injury.

1:14:08 > 1:14:09No.

1:14:09 > 1:14:11And if I did, I beg your pardon.

1:14:11 > 1:14:14Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator.

1:14:14 > 1:14:16McCARTHY: Well, let's...

1:14:16 > 1:14:17You've done enough.

1:14:17 > 1:14:20Have you no sense of decency, sir?

1:14:20 > 1:14:24At long last, have you left no sense of decency?

1:14:24 > 1:14:27I know this hurts you, Mr Welch.

1:14:27 > 1:14:30WELCH: Senator, I think it hurts you too, sir.

1:14:30 > 1:14:31McCARTHY: I'd like to finish this.

1:14:31 > 1:14:34WELCH: Have you some private reservation when you take the oath

1:14:34 > 1:14:37that you will tell the whole truth

1:14:37 > 1:14:40that lets you be the judge of what you will testify to?

1:14:40 > 1:14:42The answer is there's no reservation about telling the whole truth.

1:14:42 > 1:14:44Thank you, sir.

1:14:44 > 1:14:47Then tell us who delivered the documents to you.

1:14:47 > 1:14:49WOMAN (ON TV): 'I don't want to mean

1:14:49 > 1:14:51'that this new fashion is not... is not chic.

1:14:51 > 1:14:54'I think is just no good for me.'

1:14:54 > 1:14:56Uh, not for you.

1:14:56 > 1:14:59Uh, Milko, anything you care to say on that subject?

1:14:59 > 1:15:01MAN: I think no comment.

1:15:03 > 1:15:05MILLIE: It's gotta be here.

1:15:05 > 1:15:08SHIRLEY: If you can't find it, I can't write about it. Check again.

1:15:08 > 1:15:09Charlie said he dropped it off.

1:15:09 > 1:15:11Shirley, can I see you a minute?

1:15:11 > 1:15:13I gotta call you back.

1:15:13 > 1:15:15Joe, you too.

1:15:23 > 1:15:25Close the door.

1:15:29 > 1:15:31Have a seat.

1:15:33 > 1:15:35How are you?

1:15:35 > 1:15:37Fine, thank you. Swell. Yeah.

1:15:37 > 1:15:40Uh, you both are aware that there's a policy here at CBS

1:15:40 > 1:15:43that no two employees can be married.

1:15:44 > 1:15:48I want to ask you both a question, but I don't want you to answer it.

1:15:48 > 1:15:51I want you to just consider it.

1:15:51 > 1:15:54I know you two are married.

1:15:54 > 1:15:56Everyone knows.

1:15:56 > 1:15:58That's not my question.

1:15:58 > 1:16:01Um, in the next few weeks I have to lay off a couple of people.

1:16:01 > 1:16:04We're making some significant cuts across the board.

1:16:04 > 1:16:07I wanted you to know that

1:16:07 > 1:16:10because you could save someone else being fired.

1:16:11 > 1:16:14I'm asking you to, uh, consider

1:16:14 > 1:16:16making this decision a little easier.

1:16:17 > 1:16:20I don't need an answer now.

1:16:20 > 1:16:23Just... think about it.

1:16:24 > 1:16:26OK.

1:16:36 > 1:16:38Well, Joe... Well?

1:16:38 > 1:16:40I'm sure gonna miss you around here.

1:16:40 > 1:16:42Yeah, I'll pack my things.

1:16:44 > 1:16:46I think it's for the best.

1:16:46 > 1:16:48Well, we'll find out.

1:16:49 > 1:16:51Miss Wershba.

1:16:52 > 1:16:55Everybody knew!

1:16:57 > 1:16:58Hm.

1:17:03 > 1:17:06MURROW: Natalie, did he say what it was about?

1:17:06 > 1:17:10NATALIE: No, Mr Murrow, just that he wanted to talk to you in his office.

1:17:23 > 1:17:25Uh-oh.

1:17:28 > 1:17:31The problem isn't simply that you've lost your sponsor.

1:17:31 > 1:17:33With ALCOA, See It Now still loses money...

1:17:33 > 1:17:35FRIENDLY: Mr Paley, the fee is 50,000.

1:17:35 > 1:17:37Last week's episode we did for less than 50,000...

1:17:37 > 1:17:39Fred, you're speaking beyond your competence.

1:17:39 > 1:17:40We'll find another sponsor.

1:17:40 > 1:17:42We can certainly find someone who wants to...

1:17:42 > 1:17:4564,000 Question brings in over 80,000 in sponsors,

1:17:45 > 1:17:47and it costs one third of what you do.

1:17:47 > 1:17:50Ed, I ve got Tuesday night programming that's number one.

1:17:50 > 1:17:54People want to enjoy themselves. They don't want a civics lesson.

1:17:54 > 1:17:55MURROW: What do YOU want, Bill?

1:17:55 > 1:17:57I don't wanna get a constant stomach ache

1:17:57 > 1:17:59every time you take on a controversial subject.

1:18:01 > 1:18:04I'm afraid that's the price you have to be willing to pay.

1:18:04 > 1:18:09Let's walk very carefully through these next few moments.

1:18:09 > 1:18:10The content of what we're doing is more important

1:18:10 > 1:18:13than what some guy in Cincinnati...

1:18:13 > 1:18:15What you re doing, Ed. Not me. Not Frank Stanton, you.

1:18:15 > 1:18:19CBS News, See It Now, all belong to you, Bill.

1:18:19 > 1:18:21You wouldn't know it.

1:18:22 > 1:18:24What is it you want? Credit?

1:18:24 > 1:18:27I never censored a single programme.

1:18:27 > 1:18:32I hold on to affiliates who wanted entertainment from us.

1:18:32 > 1:18:34I fight to keep the licence

1:18:34 > 1:18:38with the very same politicians that you were bringing down,

1:18:38 > 1:18:41and I never, never said no to you.

1:18:41 > 1:18:43Never.

1:18:43 > 1:18:46I would argue that we have done very well by one another.

1:18:47 > 1:18:50I would argue that this network...

1:18:50 > 1:18:54is defined by what the news department has accomplished.

1:18:54 > 1:18:56And I would also argue that never saying no

1:18:56 > 1:18:58is not the same as not censoring.

1:18:58 > 1:19:00Really? You should teach journalism.

1:19:00 > 1:19:01You and Mr Friendly.

1:19:06 > 1:19:09Let me ask you this...

1:19:09 > 1:19:11why didn't you correct McCarthy

1:19:11 > 1:19:14when he said that Alger Hiss was convicted of treason?

1:19:14 > 1:19:16He was only convicted of perjury.

1:19:16 > 1:19:18You corrected everything else.

1:19:18 > 1:19:21Did you not want the appearance of defending a known communist?

1:19:21 > 1:19:26I would argue that everyone censors, including you.

1:19:28 > 1:19:31What do you want to do, Bill?

1:19:33 > 1:19:37I'm taking your programme from a half an hour to an hour.

1:19:37 > 1:19:40And it won't be a weekly programme and it won't be Tuesday nights.

1:19:40 > 1:19:43When would it be?

1:19:43 > 1:19:45Sunday afternoons.

1:19:46 > 1:19:48How many episodes?

1:19:48 > 1:19:50Five.

1:19:51 > 1:19:54Why don't you just fire me, Bill?

1:19:54 > 1:19:57I don't think it's what either of us wants.

1:19:59 > 1:20:02You owe me five shows.

1:20:10 > 1:20:12MURROW: You won't like the subject matter.

1:20:12 > 1:20:14Probably not.

1:20:14 > 1:20:16Fred, I ll need you for a moment.

1:20:29 > 1:20:30FRIENDLY: Thank you, Mary.

1:20:30 > 1:20:32MARY: Good night, Mr Friendly.

1:20:37 > 1:20:39He wants me to lay a few people off.

1:20:39 > 1:20:42I'm sure he does.

1:20:42 > 1:20:45Let's do our first show about the downfall of television.

1:20:47 > 1:20:49Senate's going to vote to censor McCarthy tomorrow.

1:20:49 > 1:20:51Probably.

1:20:51 > 1:20:52And then what happens?

1:20:52 > 1:20:53He sits in the back row.

1:20:53 > 1:20:56Right. They keep him in the senate.

1:20:56 > 1:20:57They don't kick him out.

1:20:57 > 1:20:59No, he stays.

1:21:07 > 1:21:10Well, we might as well go down swinging.

1:21:14 > 1:21:17Did you know the most trusted man in America is Milton Berle?

1:21:17 > 1:21:19See? You should have worn a dress.

1:21:19 > 1:21:21- EISENHOWER: - ...They're more sophisticated...

1:21:21 > 1:21:23How does a scotch sound?

1:21:23 > 1:21:25- ..We love America... - Scotch sounds good.

1:21:25 > 1:21:27- ..Why are we proud...?- Did you know Joe and Shirley were married?

1:21:27 > 1:21:29- Sure.- ..We are proud, first of all

1:21:29 > 1:21:31because from the beginning of this nation,

1:21:31 > 1:21:34a man can walk upright.

1:21:35 > 1:21:38No matter who he is or who she is,

1:21:38 > 1:21:43he can walk upright and meet his friend or his enemy.

1:21:43 > 1:21:44And he does not fear

1:21:44 > 1:21:49that because that enemy may be a position in great power,

1:21:49 > 1:21:55that he can be suddenly thrown in jail

1:21:55 > 1:21:57to rot there without charges

1:21:57 > 1:22:01and with no recourse to justice.

1:22:01 > 1:22:04We have the habeas corpus act, and we respect it...

1:22:04 > 1:22:06I began by saying

1:22:06 > 1:22:09that our history will be what we make it.

1:22:09 > 1:22:13If we go on as we are, then history will take its revenge,

1:22:13 > 1:22:17and retribution will not limp in catching up with us.

1:22:17 > 1:22:19Just once in a while,

1:22:19 > 1:22:22let us exalt the importance of ideas and information.

1:22:22 > 1:22:25Let us dream to the extent of saying

1:22:25 > 1:22:27that on a given Sunday night,

1:22:27 > 1:22:27a time normally occupied by Ed Sullivan

1:22:27 > 1:22:30is given over to a clinical survey

1:22:30 > 1:22:32on the state of American education.

1:22:32 > 1:22:36And a week or two later, a time normally used by Steve Allen

1:22:36 > 1:22:38is devoted to a thorough-going study

1:22:38 > 1:22:41of American policy in the Middle East.

1:22:41 > 1:22:44Would the corporate image of their respective sponsors be damaged?

1:22:44 > 1:22:48Would the shareholders rise up in their wrath and complain?

1:22:48 > 1:22:51Would anything happen other than a few million people

1:22:51 > 1:22:54would have received a little illumination on subjects

1:22:54 > 1:22:56that may well determine the future of this country

1:22:56 > 1:22:59and therefore the future of the corporations?

1:22:59 > 1:23:02To those who say, "People wouldn't look. They wouldn't be interested.

1:23:02 > 1:23:05"They re too complacent, indifferent and insulated,"

1:23:05 > 1:23:09I can only reply: there is, in one reporter s opinion,

1:23:09 > 1:23:13considerable evidence against that contention.

1:23:13 > 1:23:16But even if they are right, what have they got to lose?

1:23:16 > 1:23:18Because if they are right,

1:23:18 > 1:23:20and this instrument is good for nothing

1:23:20 > 1:23:23but to entertain, amuse and insulate,

1:23:23 > 1:23:25then the tube is flickering now,

1:23:25 > 1:23:29and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost.

1:23:29 > 1:23:31This instrument can teach.

1:23:31 > 1:23:34It can illuminate, and, yes, it can even inspire.

1:23:34 > 1:23:36But it can do so only to the extent

1:23:36 > 1:23:39that humans are determined to use it towards those ends.

1:23:40 > 1:23:45Otherwise, it is merely wires and lights in a box.

1:23:48 > 1:23:51Good night, and good luck.

1:23:54 > 1:23:56FOOTSTEPS DEPARTING

1:24:12 > 1:24:16# It's quarter to three

1:24:16 > 1:24:19# There's no one in the place

1:24:19 > 1:24:23# Except you and me

1:24:25 > 1:24:29# So set 'em up, Joe

1:24:29 > 1:24:33# I've got a little story

1:24:33 > 1:24:37# You oughta know

1:24:38 > 1:24:42# We're drinkin', my friend

1:24:43 > 1:24:45# Till the end

1:24:45 > 1:24:49# Of a brief episode

1:24:51 > 1:24:56# Make it one for my baby

1:24:56 > 1:25:01# And one more for the road

1:25:04 > 1:25:11# That long, long

1:25:11 > 1:25:17# Road. #