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0:00:35 > 0:00:42DISTANT CHILDREN'S LAUGHTER
0:01:20 > 0:01:25DISTANT SIREN WAILS
0:01:49 > 0:01:51HORN BEEPS
0:02:11 > 0:02:13Sue, right now, your baby needs to be safe
0:02:13 > 0:02:16and you need a bit of support, don't you?
0:02:16 > 0:02:19I know you love her. Of course you do.
0:02:19 > 0:02:23But this will give you a chance to sort yourself out.
0:02:23 > 0:02:26I couldn't get on top of it, with everything...
0:02:29 > 0:02:32Don't, Margaret. Don't take her.
0:02:32 > 0:02:34Do you want to put her down, Sue?
0:02:34 > 0:02:35Just put her in the carrycot.
0:02:35 > 0:02:37You all right, love?
0:02:39 > 0:02:40Yeah?
0:02:43 > 0:02:45Put her down.
0:02:45 > 0:02:47BABY CRIES
0:02:47 > 0:02:49There you go.
0:02:49 > 0:02:51You'll be able to see her tomorrow.
0:02:51 > 0:02:54I'll take you to her and you'll be able to see that she's fine.
0:02:54 > 0:02:56Whoa, darling.
0:03:01 > 0:03:02Don't!
0:03:02 > 0:03:05Don't! Please! Margaret, please!
0:03:05 > 0:03:07I'll do better, I will!
0:03:09 > 0:03:11SUZIE SOBS
0:03:16 > 0:03:18The thing I love about this group
0:03:18 > 0:03:20is that you don't have to explain yourself here.
0:03:20 > 0:03:22We've all been adopted as kids
0:03:22 > 0:03:26and OK, we've all had different experiences after that,
0:03:26 > 0:03:29but it's a big bottom line, isn't it?
0:03:29 > 0:03:32Anyway, I'm glad to be here tonight. I don't mind telling you.
0:03:32 > 0:03:34I've been getting a lot of grief at work.
0:03:34 > 0:03:37Things have been getting me down, really.
0:03:37 > 0:03:40Been feeling a bit low, a bit lonely.
0:03:40 > 0:03:43You know, when you always think
0:03:43 > 0:03:46is it because of what happened when I was a kid?
0:03:46 > 0:03:47You know, maybe I'll never be right.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52But you can't always know that, can you?
0:03:52 > 0:03:55You just... you just always wonder.
0:04:05 > 0:04:07Is this where the Triangle Group is?
0:04:07 > 0:04:09Yes, that's right, but we've finished for the night.
0:04:09 > 0:04:11Charlotte. Charlotte Cooper.
0:04:11 > 0:04:14Can I have a quick word? It won't take a minute.
0:04:14 > 0:04:17Well, what you're looking for isn't really what this group does.
0:04:17 > 0:04:19This is a local support group, really.
0:04:19 > 0:04:22I might be able to refer you to somebody who'd be able to offer you counselling.
0:04:22 > 0:04:25I don't want counselling. I want to find out who I am.
0:04:25 > 0:04:26Well, this isn't really the way to...
0:04:26 > 0:04:29I don't even know if my name and birth date are right.
0:04:29 > 0:04:32I remember leaving England. I was four-years-old.
0:04:32 > 0:04:35I was in a children's home because my parents were dead.
0:04:35 > 0:04:38Then they sent me in a boat to Australia.
0:04:38 > 0:04:40All I know for certain is I was born in Nottingham.
0:04:40 > 0:04:42What do you mean they put you on a boat?
0:04:42 > 0:04:45They put us all on a boat for Oz. Hundreds of us.
0:04:45 > 0:04:47Your adoptive parents were emigrating?
0:04:47 > 0:04:49No. No parents, no guardians.
0:04:49 > 0:04:51Just a couple of hundred kids, they sent us away.
0:04:51 > 0:04:54- That can't be right. - What do you mean?
0:04:54 > 0:04:56It's simply not legal. There's no way a group of
0:04:56 > 0:04:58unaccompanied children would be shipped off like that.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01- You calling me a liar? - No, of course not.
0:05:01 > 0:05:03That is the one thing I know...
0:05:03 > 0:05:05I know about who I am.
0:05:05 > 0:05:07Don't you tell me that's not true.
0:05:07 > 0:05:08OK, look. I can see you're upset.
0:05:08 > 0:05:11Why don't you come to my office on another day?
0:05:11 > 0:05:12Take this. That's my name,
0:05:12 > 0:05:16that's all I've got to tell anyone where I've come from.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18It is 10:30 at night...
0:05:18 > 0:05:21I can't find anything else. I've tried everything.
0:05:21 > 0:05:22I've been everywhere.
0:05:22 > 0:05:25Now, my time's running out. I'm flying back.
0:05:25 > 0:05:29So you have a look and you write and tell me how wrong I am.
0:05:29 > 0:05:33You come 10,000 miles to find home, they call you a liar.
0:05:35 > 0:05:36Wait.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41You're not a bloody saint. You were tired.
0:05:41 > 0:05:44Yeah, I know, but I should have seen it coming.
0:05:44 > 0:05:46You can't always see it coming.
0:05:46 > 0:05:49- Why's Ben out of bed?- Oh, hello, miss. Ben spilled his juice.
0:05:49 > 0:05:53- It wasn't my fault. - What are you doing out of bed?
0:05:53 > 0:05:55I can't sleep. Can I read?
0:05:55 > 0:05:58No. Go on, go back up to bed and I'll come tuck you up in a minute.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00It's not fair, I'm older than him.
0:06:00 > 0:06:03- Happens all the time. - Come on, up you go.
0:06:03 > 0:06:05I just hope I did the right thing.
0:06:05 > 0:06:08Margaret, we're social workers. There's no right thing.
0:06:08 > 0:06:11There's social-work practice, court decisions...
0:06:11 > 0:06:13My professional judgement.
0:06:13 > 0:06:15Which means that sometimes you're doing the right thing,
0:06:15 > 0:06:17and sometimes you're oppressing the poor
0:06:17 > 0:06:20with the middle-class values of a reactionary government.
0:06:20 > 0:06:22Don't make that face at me. Kiss from Mummy.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25Sometimes, you're just tired.
0:06:25 > 0:06:27Ooh, you're heavy. Now, then...
0:06:27 > 0:06:30RAIN PATTERS
0:06:31 > 0:06:33- BEN:- Mum?
0:06:34 > 0:06:36Mum?
0:06:36 > 0:06:37It's OK. I'll go.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53Had bad dream.
0:06:53 > 0:06:55Oh, sweetie. You OK?
0:06:55 > 0:06:57What happened?
0:06:57 > 0:07:00It was a long, long tunnel thing and I couldn't...
0:07:00 > 0:07:02You couldn't what?
0:07:02 > 0:07:05Couldn't get out and I couldn't find you.
0:07:05 > 0:07:06Darling, I'm here.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08I lost you.
0:07:08 > 0:07:10Oh, sweetie. I'm here now. I'm not going anywhere, OK?
0:07:10 > 0:07:13All right?
0:07:13 > 0:07:14You going to go back to sleep?
0:07:17 > 0:07:19All right.
0:07:58 > 0:08:02- I think you have to talk about it. - Exactly.
0:08:02 > 0:08:04I only told my husband just this last year.
0:08:04 > 0:08:06Good for you.
0:08:06 > 0:08:07What do you think, Nicky?
0:08:07 > 0:08:10Um, well, I know what you mean,
0:08:10 > 0:08:13but sometimes I think it sounds stupid
0:08:13 > 0:08:15if I told everyone what was bothering me.
0:08:15 > 0:08:17What is it?
0:08:17 > 0:08:19Um...
0:08:19 > 0:08:21It's my brother, my brother Jack.
0:08:21 > 0:08:23Uh...
0:08:23 > 0:08:25I don't really see him, you see.
0:08:25 > 0:08:28Do you want to tell everyone who Jack is, Nicky?
0:08:30 > 0:08:31Mmm...
0:08:31 > 0:08:33Uh, yeah.
0:08:35 > 0:08:37PUTS CUP DOWN
0:08:44 > 0:08:46- That's my brother, Jack. - That's lovely.
0:08:49 > 0:08:51He found me a few years ago.
0:08:51 > 0:08:53Um...
0:08:53 > 0:08:56Just got a letter out of the blue.
0:08:56 > 0:08:59"Dear Nicky, I think I may be your brother Jack."
0:08:59 > 0:09:01And he was.
0:09:02 > 0:09:04Well, soon as I saw him, I knew.
0:09:04 > 0:09:05I mean...
0:09:05 > 0:09:08I remembered. That's right.
0:09:08 > 0:09:11Once upon a time, I used to have a brother.
0:09:11 > 0:09:13So where is he?
0:09:13 > 0:09:16Australia.
0:09:16 > 0:09:19Can you believe it?
0:09:19 > 0:09:21It was the Sally Army who found me for him.
0:09:21 > 0:09:25They'd taken us both in and put me in my first foster home
0:09:25 > 0:09:27and shipped Jack off to Australia.
0:09:27 > 0:09:29So, uh...
0:09:29 > 0:09:33I mean, I know I have family, I suppose,
0:09:33 > 0:09:38but he's so far away, and sometimes it's hard to feel...
0:09:43 > 0:09:45- SIGHS - Anyway.
0:09:46 > 0:09:49So was he adopted by an Australian family?
0:09:49 > 0:09:51Uh, no. No.
0:09:51 > 0:09:53It was just kids, Jack said.
0:09:53 > 0:09:57A big ship full of kids from 5 to 13,
0:09:57 > 0:09:59all being sent off to Australia.
0:10:00 > 0:10:02You never told me that bit, Nicky.
0:10:02 > 0:10:06Didn't I? Well, that's what happened.
0:10:15 > 0:10:17Could still all be just coincidence.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19Do you think so?
0:10:20 > 0:10:23Well, if children did emigrate to Australia in any numbers,
0:10:23 > 0:10:25there must be some record of them.
0:10:40 > 0:10:42I was just wondering if you had any records
0:10:42 > 0:10:44of any unaccompanied children
0:10:44 > 0:10:47sent to Australia in the 1940s and '50s.
0:10:47 > 0:10:49I don't think we ever had those records in Australia House.
0:10:49 > 0:10:52So there were children sent out there?
0:10:52 > 0:10:55Um, do you know how many?
0:10:55 > 0:10:57When? Why were they sent?
0:10:57 > 0:10:59I've already told you.
0:10:59 > 0:11:01We don't have any more information.
0:11:01 > 0:11:03So who would know?
0:11:03 > 0:11:06Why don't you ask your own government?
0:11:06 > 0:11:08They're the ones who sent the kids out there.
0:11:09 > 0:11:11I know, I couldn't believe it.
0:11:11 > 0:11:14I mean, I was still half thinking that the story couldn't be true
0:11:14 > 0:11:16and he just came out with it.
0:11:16 > 0:11:17Yeah.
0:11:18 > 0:11:20No, no. I think I'm going to...
0:11:20 > 0:11:22I think I'm going to still get the later train
0:11:22 > 0:11:24and I'm going to try St Catherine's House now.
0:11:24 > 0:11:27See if I can find Charlotte's birth certificate.
0:11:31 > 0:11:33If I can get her mother's name off that,
0:11:33 > 0:11:36then I can probably find out when she died
0:11:36 > 0:11:39and then when Charlotte was placed in an orphanage.
0:11:40 > 0:11:42We can start to trace her journey.
0:11:52 > 0:11:56Maybe get some clues about why Nicky's brother was sent away as well.
0:12:40 > 0:12:42Charlotte's mother wasn't dead.
0:12:42 > 0:12:44Lovely to see you, Merv. How was your day?
0:12:44 > 0:12:47Charlotte said she was in an orphanage in 1950
0:12:47 > 0:12:49because both her parents were dead.
0:12:49 > 0:12:52Well, I found a record of a woman with her mother's name
0:12:52 > 0:12:55who got married in Nottingham in 1956,
0:12:55 > 0:12:58not dead, very much alive and eating wedding cake.
0:12:58 > 0:13:00Might not be the same woman.
0:13:00 > 0:13:02I've ordered up the certificate
0:13:02 > 0:13:05but why would Charlotte have been sent if she wasn't an orphan?
0:13:05 > 0:13:09So if her mother was alive in '56, she might still be alive.
0:13:09 > 0:13:12- I know. - So you going to follow that up?
0:13:12 > 0:13:15Well, I'll find the address on the certificate and follow the trail from there.
0:13:38 > 0:13:39Do you think it's her?
0:13:39 > 0:13:42About the right age.
0:13:47 > 0:13:49Hello, Vera. Yeah, not bad. And you?
0:13:52 > 0:13:54Is that the time already?
0:13:56 > 0:13:57Thanks.
0:13:57 > 0:13:59Hang on, I'll finish that up.
0:14:05 > 0:14:08- Excuse me, are you Vera Wilson? - That's me. How can I help you, love?
0:14:08 > 0:14:11I was wondering if I could have a word with you in private.
0:14:11 > 0:14:14It's something personal.
0:14:14 > 0:14:16I'll take you through. What's it about?
0:14:16 > 0:14:19It's about your family.
0:14:22 > 0:14:24Oh, my God.
0:14:27 > 0:14:29I knew you'd come one day.
0:14:29 > 0:14:34- It's you, isn't it? You're my baby. - No, Vera, I'm a social worker.
0:14:36 > 0:14:38Do you know where our baby is?
0:14:38 > 0:14:42Let's go somewhere where we can talk in private.
0:14:56 > 0:14:58Where is she?
0:14:58 > 0:15:00Does she have a family?
0:15:02 > 0:15:03Is she happy?
0:15:03 > 0:15:06Charlotte's in Australia.
0:15:06 > 0:15:10She grew up in a children's home in Australia.
0:15:12 > 0:15:14In Australia?
0:15:14 > 0:15:17What was she doing over there?
0:15:20 > 0:15:23What was she doing in a children's home?
0:15:26 > 0:15:29I went back to get her and they told me she'd been adopted.
0:15:32 > 0:15:35I went back to get her.
0:15:35 > 0:15:38They told me she was better off.
0:15:38 > 0:15:40She was in a real family.
0:15:42 > 0:15:46What's she doing in a children's home on the other side of the world?
0:15:47 > 0:15:49SOBS
0:16:08 > 0:16:11- ANNOUNCEMENT:- This flight is now closed and will depart.
0:16:11 > 0:16:12Final call for British Airways...
0:16:15 > 0:16:17All right, let me take that.
0:16:17 > 0:16:20- How was your flight?- All right.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22We'll go out this way to the car.
0:16:23 > 0:16:25You ready for tonight?
0:16:39 > 0:16:41That's, uh, my mother.
0:16:41 > 0:16:43Your grandmother.
0:16:45 > 0:16:48She was very strict, you know.
0:16:54 > 0:16:58Well, you've got to understand how things were 40 years ago.
0:17:00 > 0:17:02No-one wanted...
0:17:02 > 0:17:03the shame.
0:17:05 > 0:17:07It was such a scandal.
0:17:07 > 0:17:11Mother wouldn't have me in the house.
0:17:23 > 0:17:26They took my baby away from me at the hostel
0:17:26 > 0:17:29and...I tried to visit.
0:17:31 > 0:17:36And then one day they said she'd gone.
0:17:38 > 0:17:40You had gone.
0:17:45 > 0:17:47I kept this for you.
0:17:47 > 0:17:50In case.
0:17:52 > 0:17:54Well, I always kept it.
0:18:26 > 0:18:29I'm up to my eyes at work.
0:18:29 > 0:18:31I know.
0:18:31 > 0:18:33And we can't afford it.
0:18:33 > 0:18:34I know.
0:18:34 > 0:18:36And the kids?
0:18:36 > 0:18:38We'll be fine here.
0:19:07 > 0:19:09Hey.
0:19:09 > 0:19:11Oh! CHUCKLES
0:19:11 > 0:19:13- Nice to see you.- You too.
0:19:13 > 0:19:17Oh, Margaret. This is my brother, Jack.
0:19:17 > 0:19:19It's very nice to meet you. I've heard a lot about you.
0:19:19 > 0:19:22Good to meet you too. How was the flight?
0:19:22 > 0:19:24Uh, yeah, good.
0:19:24 > 0:19:26Get these into the car.
0:19:30 > 0:19:31- You all right?- Yeah.
0:19:31 > 0:19:34Still OK to come to the reunion tomorrow?
0:19:34 > 0:19:36Yeah. Yeah, of course. You must be tired.
0:19:36 > 0:19:39Yeah, a little bit.
0:19:53 > 0:19:55So we are delighted
0:19:55 > 0:20:00to see our usual wonderful turnout of former Fairbridge residents.
0:20:00 > 0:20:04This is a nostalgic and happy day for all of us.
0:20:04 > 0:20:08Now, just before I go, this is Mrs Humphreys,
0:20:08 > 0:20:10who has come all the way from England
0:20:10 > 0:20:13to join one of our old Fairbridgians at the reunion today.
0:20:13 > 0:20:16She'd love to hear any stories you have about your time here,
0:20:16 > 0:20:19so do take the time to talk to her, if you can.
0:20:21 > 0:20:24Hello, my name's Margaret Humphreys.
0:20:24 > 0:20:27I was recently contacted by a woman
0:20:27 > 0:20:30who was sent here to Australia as a child
0:20:30 > 0:20:33and has lost all contact with her family in England.
0:20:33 > 0:20:36And I'm here today to see if any of you are in the same position.
0:20:37 > 0:20:40If you want to talk to me, just come and find me later.
0:20:40 > 0:20:41All right. Thank you.
0:20:43 > 0:20:47So is this all there is, the bunkhouses, the farm buildings?
0:20:47 > 0:20:49What about the school?
0:20:51 > 0:20:55Well, you only got to go to school if you finished your farm work first.
0:20:56 > 0:20:59Jack told me some stories about this place, didn't you, Jack?
0:21:01 > 0:21:03Food was terrible, wasn't it?
0:21:03 > 0:21:05What was it you used to have, Jack?
0:21:07 > 0:21:09You could always tell the Fairbridge kids
0:21:09 > 0:21:13because they were the ones nicking the other kids' lunch boxes.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16Do you know if all the other children
0:21:16 > 0:21:18were sent out from Britain, the same as you?
0:21:18 > 0:21:20I don't know, I don't know.
0:21:20 > 0:21:22Do you know who sent you?
0:21:22 > 0:21:26- It's a bit hot. I'll be out by the bus.- Yeah.
0:21:29 > 0:21:30Sorry, Margaret.
0:21:39 > 0:21:41This woman you were talking about.
0:21:41 > 0:21:43- Did you find any family for her? - Yes.
0:21:43 > 0:21:49She was told that her mother was dead but we found her.
0:21:49 > 0:21:51- You found her mother?- Yes.
0:21:51 > 0:21:54Do you think I've got a mother?
0:21:54 > 0:21:56Everybody's got a mother.
0:21:56 > 0:21:59What year? What year are we talking about?
0:21:59 > 0:22:01ALL ASK QUESTIONS AT ONCE
0:22:16 > 0:22:18Sorry to keep you waiting.
0:22:18 > 0:22:20Any records of who the child migrants were
0:22:20 > 0:22:23would be back in the UK or with local state authorities.
0:22:31 > 0:22:32More.
0:22:36 > 0:22:38Oh, there's so many of them.
0:22:41 > 0:22:45These migrations - were they organised schemes?
0:22:45 > 0:22:48I can't tell you, really. It's not my area, I'm afraid.
0:22:50 > 0:22:52So, why have I never heard about it?
0:22:52 > 0:22:55Why has no-one ever heard about it?
0:22:55 > 0:22:58I don't suppose anyone was really that interested.
0:23:00 > 0:23:02Stay there while I get a view of you two.
0:23:05 > 0:23:07What's up, Jack?
0:23:11 > 0:23:13I can't stand Mother's Day.
0:23:19 > 0:23:20Get the same feeling every year,
0:23:20 > 0:23:22like someone's twisting a knife inside me.
0:23:22 > 0:23:25So, normally I stay inside on that day and I draw the blinds
0:23:25 > 0:23:26and I let the phone ring.
0:23:31 > 0:23:33I was married, you know. I've got three kids.
0:23:35 > 0:23:37I never knew what was wrong with me.
0:23:37 > 0:23:39You know, I'd think about my mother all the time,
0:23:39 > 0:23:41but I could never talk about it.
0:23:41 > 0:23:42How can you talk about someone
0:23:42 > 0:23:44when you've been told they don't even exist?
0:23:46 > 0:23:48I went to see this doctor.
0:23:48 > 0:23:51He put me on antidepressants.
0:23:51 > 0:23:55That didn't really help, so I saved them up,
0:23:55 > 0:23:57I saved them all up and then...
0:24:01 > 0:24:03I mean, it wasn't my wife's fault, you know.
0:24:03 > 0:24:05There's a...
0:24:07 > 0:24:09..there's an emptiness in me.
0:24:10 > 0:24:14There always has been and I think... I thought...
0:24:14 > 0:24:18I think that the only thing that could fill it is her, you know?
0:24:18 > 0:24:22- Is my mother. - Jack! Jack!
0:24:28 > 0:24:30There's a very strong memory.
0:24:30 > 0:24:33I was in the children's home in the UK, I was only ten.
0:24:35 > 0:24:38This man in a suit, he came to see me and he says,
0:24:38 > 0:24:42"How'd you like to go to Australia? The sun shines every day.
0:24:42 > 0:24:46"You'd live in a white house, ride a horse to school
0:24:46 > 0:24:49"and you'd pick oranges off the trees for your breakfast."
0:24:51 > 0:24:53When I didn't say anything, he says,
0:24:53 > 0:24:59"Well, your mother's dead, you know, so you might as well."
0:25:02 > 0:25:04So...
0:25:04 > 0:25:08Now you're telling me that she might not have been dead, after all.
0:25:08 > 0:25:11No, I can't say that, Jack.
0:25:11 > 0:25:12We just don't know.
0:25:12 > 0:25:15What we can do is we can search for her records
0:25:15 > 0:25:17and see what we can find.
0:25:20 > 0:25:22I don't know. Of course, of course. I don't know.
0:25:22 > 0:25:24You found your sister.
0:25:25 > 0:25:28She was so happy to see you, you know.
0:25:34 > 0:25:36Nicky trusts you.
0:25:39 > 0:25:42And I reckon I... I think I should too.
0:25:45 > 0:25:47There she is.
0:25:50 > 0:25:52Hello, sweetie.
0:25:52 > 0:25:54Hello, darling.
0:25:55 > 0:25:57Good to see you. How was the plane?
0:25:57 > 0:25:59It was all right, actually. Come on, guys.
0:25:59 > 0:26:02- Did you get any sleep? - Little bit, yeah.
0:26:02 > 0:26:03You all right?
0:26:04 > 0:26:09Oh, yeah. I'm tired. I'm exhausted. But I'm very happy to be home.
0:26:32 > 0:26:35That's what I found first. By then I was desperate.
0:26:35 > 0:26:39I've been searching court records, children's panel, minutes, you name it.
0:26:39 > 0:26:41No trace of the children anywhere.
0:26:41 > 0:26:43I was just looking through newspapers round about our date
0:26:43 > 0:26:45and that leapt out at me.
0:26:45 > 0:26:47Now you have the name of the organisation.
0:26:47 > 0:26:49- Fairbridge. - It wasn't just Fairbridge.
0:26:49 > 0:26:51All sorts of different charities ran these schemes.
0:26:51 > 0:26:53Churches, Barnardos.
0:26:53 > 0:26:56Children from deprived backgrounds,
0:26:56 > 0:26:58shipped off for a better life in the colonies.
0:27:00 > 0:27:03This is it. This is all fitting together.
0:27:03 > 0:27:06The scheme was run from the 19th century
0:27:06 > 0:27:08till - you won't believe this - 1970.
0:27:08 > 0:27:11But there was a wave of migrations to Australia
0:27:11 > 0:27:13between the mid-'50s and the mid-'60s.
0:27:13 > 0:27:14How big? How many kids?
0:27:14 > 0:27:17I don't know exactly but it must've been organised.
0:27:17 > 0:27:19I mean, organised at the level of government.
0:27:19 > 0:27:24These children were in care. Local authorities were their guardians.
0:27:24 > 0:27:26For so many of them to be systematically deported,
0:27:26 > 0:27:29it must have been government policy. The Home Secretary would have had
0:27:29 > 0:27:31to give consent for them to leave the country.
0:27:31 > 0:27:34The Australian Government must've wanted to receive them.
0:27:34 > 0:27:36White Australia, I suppose.
0:27:36 > 0:27:40You're talking about the organised deportation of children in care.
0:27:40 > 0:27:42I don't have any concrete proof yet
0:27:42 > 0:27:44but the evidence doesn't leave much room for doubt.
0:27:44 > 0:27:48So, who's taking responsibility for what happened to these children
0:27:48 > 0:27:50once they reached Australia?
0:27:54 > 0:27:55Oh, Merv.
0:27:55 > 0:27:58I've got the names of hundreds of people in my suitcase,
0:27:58 > 0:28:00who all want to know who they are.
0:28:00 > 0:28:02I know.
0:28:03 > 0:28:05Who do I ask? Where do I start?
0:28:09 > 0:28:11Are you going to look at all that stuff now?
0:28:11 > 0:28:14Jet lag.
0:28:14 > 0:28:16I thought you said you were working in the morning.
0:28:16 > 0:28:19I've got to. I've been summoned.
0:28:20 > 0:28:21Merv?
0:28:24 > 0:28:26I'm going to have to get back to Australia.
0:28:26 > 0:28:30Well, catch your breath first, eh?
0:28:39 > 0:28:41We can see you now.
0:28:46 > 0:28:50- WOMAN:- ..and sent it to the other department.
0:28:50 > 0:28:54- Shut the door, please. - For the other department?
0:28:56 > 0:28:59OK. Take a seat.
0:28:59 > 0:29:00Two weeks?
0:29:04 > 0:29:05OK.
0:29:08 > 0:29:12Well, as you know, Rita's filled me in with what you've been up to.
0:29:12 > 0:29:13I've read your report.
0:29:13 > 0:29:16Look, I just want to say that I have kept on top of my case load
0:29:16 > 0:29:19and I went to Australia in my own time, that was my annual leave.
0:29:19 > 0:29:21- Well, I think that's appalling. - What? What is?
0:29:21 > 0:29:25That you had to use your own holiday to pursue this.
0:29:25 > 0:29:26Oh.
0:29:26 > 0:29:30I'm taking this to the social services committee.
0:29:30 > 0:29:33Tell me. What is it you want to do?
0:29:36 > 0:29:40Well, uh, the people that I've met,
0:29:40 > 0:29:43they want to find a record of who they are.
0:29:43 > 0:29:46They just want to know where they came from.
0:29:46 > 0:29:48- What do you need?- Time.
0:29:48 > 0:29:51Time to find their families.
0:29:51 > 0:29:52How long?
0:29:52 > 0:29:54Well...a year?
0:29:55 > 0:29:57How about two?
0:29:57 > 0:30:01Yes, that would be...
0:30:01 > 0:30:04I'll make a recommendation to the committee.
0:30:04 > 0:30:11So, are you talking about me working on this full-time?
0:30:11 > 0:30:13That is what you want, isn't it?
0:30:15 > 0:30:19Yes. Yes, it is.
0:30:19 > 0:30:23Now, how are we going to fund you properly?
0:30:23 > 0:30:27We're going to have raise your profile to try and get
0:30:27 > 0:30:31some public funding and we need donations.
0:30:31 > 0:30:33Have you thought about going to the press?
0:30:35 > 0:30:36Merv?
0:30:40 > 0:30:44It's being printed in the papers in Sydney and Melbourne too.
0:30:53 > 0:30:55- They're all the same.- I know.
0:30:55 > 0:30:58"Dear Mrs Humphreys, I read the article in the paper.
0:30:58 > 0:30:59"Please could you help me find my mother?
0:30:59 > 0:31:02"I was sent to Australia in 1957. I have no birth certificate."
0:31:05 > 0:31:07I'm in trouble, aren't I?
0:31:24 > 0:31:27Have I helped you understand all that, Bob? It's a lot to take in.
0:31:28 > 0:31:30They gave me the wrong name.
0:31:30 > 0:31:33They'd given you the wrong name.
0:31:33 > 0:31:36That's why it's taking so long to find your birth certificate.
0:31:37 > 0:31:41So, which name do I use?
0:31:41 > 0:31:43Who am I?
0:31:43 > 0:31:45You're the same person.
0:31:45 > 0:31:48But I've got the wrong name.
0:31:48 > 0:31:52You're using a different name from the name on your birth certificate.
0:31:55 > 0:31:59- Do you want to stop for a minute? - No. No, I'm good.
0:31:59 > 0:32:02So, what next?
0:32:04 > 0:32:08Well, what would you like me to do next?
0:32:18 > 0:32:20Thank you all very much for your patience,
0:32:20 > 0:32:23and I'll be with you as soon as I can.
0:32:29 > 0:32:32- I'm very sorry to keep you waiting. - Not a problem. I'm Dan.
0:32:32 > 0:32:33Dan, please come in.
0:32:38 > 0:32:40Oh, I'm Len Connelly. I'm with Dan.
0:32:40 > 0:32:42Oh, nice to meet you.
0:32:44 > 0:32:46Well, I usually see people on their own, but uh...
0:32:46 > 0:32:48I'm moral support.
0:32:48 > 0:32:51Right, well, Dan, you'll be fine on your own
0:32:51 > 0:32:52but if that's what you want...
0:32:52 > 0:32:54- It's all right. - It's what he wants, yeah.
0:32:54 > 0:32:56Well, nice to meet you, Mr Connelly.
0:32:59 > 0:33:02- Uh... right. Shall we? - Yeah.
0:33:05 > 0:33:08So, I reckon if I do have any family, they might be around Doncaster.
0:33:08 > 0:33:10OK, right. Doncaster.
0:33:12 > 0:33:15Well, from what you've told me,
0:33:15 > 0:33:18I will be able to start to trace your mother's birth certificate.
0:33:18 > 0:33:22Oh, I've tried all of that. I've had the best in the business working on it.
0:33:22 > 0:33:23- Len.- Nothing.
0:33:23 > 0:33:25Can't be done. Cost me a few bob too.
0:33:25 > 0:33:27Not that I'm short of a few bob...
0:33:27 > 0:33:30Excuse me. I am trying to listen to Dan.
0:33:30 > 0:33:32Well, I reckon you need to see me, as well.
0:33:32 > 0:33:35- Were you a child migrant too? - I've just told you that.
0:33:35 > 0:33:39Well, I'm sure that tracing your family is very important to you.
0:33:39 > 0:33:42But right now, this is Dan's time.
0:33:42 > 0:33:45OK, so there are three possibilities.
0:33:45 > 0:33:49We might be able to find your mother's birth certificate,
0:33:49 > 0:33:53and obviously that is what we want and what we're hoping for.
0:33:53 > 0:34:00We might find her and then discover that she's already passed away.
0:34:00 > 0:34:06We might... we might not have any luck.
0:34:06 > 0:34:08I'm really sorry. Excuse me?
0:34:08 > 0:34:10What are you doing?
0:34:10 > 0:34:12Could you put that down, please?
0:34:12 > 0:34:14I was checking what you're up to.
0:34:14 > 0:34:18I'm sorry, but if you interrupt again, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
0:34:18 > 0:34:21When are you going to see me? I've got documents the detectives found me.
0:34:21 > 0:34:23They never found my mother.
0:34:23 > 0:34:27Well, if the world's best private detectives weren't able to trace her,
0:34:27 > 0:34:30I'm not really sure what you expect me to do.
0:34:30 > 0:34:33Well, I thought you could give it a go.
0:34:35 > 0:34:38I'm afraid I have a backlog of people to see on this trip
0:34:38 > 0:34:40and I won't be able to fit you in.
0:34:40 > 0:34:42But if you want to send me your documents,
0:34:42 > 0:34:44then I'll see what I can do.
0:34:47 > 0:34:48Right, now, Dan.
0:34:48 > 0:34:53What I'm going to need from you is any recollections that you have
0:34:53 > 0:34:58obviously from your early childhood in Doncaster - names, faces...
0:34:59 > 0:35:03Well, you've certainly caused quite a stir, Mrs Humphreys.
0:35:03 > 0:35:04There's been a lot of comments
0:35:04 > 0:35:07since you broke this story in the newspapers.
0:35:07 > 0:35:09Well, I didn't exactly break the story.
0:35:09 > 0:35:12People are saying what happened to some of these children
0:35:12 > 0:35:14- is an outrage. - Would you care to comment on that?
0:35:14 > 0:35:18- Well, I'd say it was, yes. - That's rather a strong word, though.
0:35:18 > 0:35:23I met a woman recently who was sent to Australia at five years of age
0:35:23 > 0:35:24and she wanted me to tell you
0:35:24 > 0:35:31that she lived with 15 other girls in an unheated, unventilated hut
0:35:31 > 0:35:35for ten years, and during that time,
0:35:35 > 0:35:37her only possessions were one dress and one pair of shoes.
0:35:37 > 0:35:40And then at age 15, she was told
0:35:40 > 0:35:43that she had to repay her debt of board and lodging
0:35:43 > 0:35:46and she was sent to work as unpaid slave labour
0:35:46 > 0:35:49on a farm that was 50 miles from the nearest road.
0:35:49 > 0:35:52- So what this... - And in all that time, she never knew
0:35:52 > 0:35:55that she had a mother still living in England
0:35:55 > 0:35:58who had no idea where she was or what had happened to her.
0:35:58 > 0:36:01I'd like to know what word you would use
0:36:01 > 0:36:03to describe what that mother and daughter suffered.
0:36:11 > 0:36:13- Mrs Humphreys! - Come on, mate, leave it.
0:36:13 > 0:36:15I've got to talk to you.
0:36:15 > 0:36:18I'd like to take you to dinner. My treat. My treat.
0:36:18 > 0:36:20- I can buy my own dinner, thanks. - Come on, what are you?
0:36:20 > 0:36:23- One of those lesbian socialists? - Shut up, Len.
0:36:23 > 0:36:25He's all right. Doesn't know what he's saying.
0:36:25 > 0:36:27- She's turned crimson. - He's all right.
0:36:28 > 0:36:32Hey, Mrs Humphreys! Mrs Humphreys, I want an appointment.
0:36:45 > 0:36:48So, how long have you been doing this work?
0:36:48 > 0:36:50You know what?
0:36:50 > 0:36:54I've been cleaning floors for 40 years.
0:36:57 > 0:37:00First thing they did at Fairbridge when I came off the boat,
0:37:00 > 0:37:02put a mop in my hands.
0:37:02 > 0:37:04"Stop your crying and clean that floor."
0:37:04 > 0:37:06How old were you?
0:37:08 > 0:37:10I was eight.
0:37:11 > 0:37:13I was crying too.
0:37:13 > 0:37:16Didn't need to put a bucket of water on the floor.
0:37:16 > 0:37:18I was dropping enough water on it.
0:37:20 > 0:37:21That was it.
0:37:21 > 0:37:24Scrubbing for 40 years.
0:37:26 > 0:37:28Sometimes...
0:37:29 > 0:37:33..when I was shining up those floors, I'd think,
0:37:33 > 0:37:36"I wonder what my old mum would think if she could see me now."
0:37:38 > 0:37:40So you remember your mum?
0:37:41 > 0:37:43Of course.
0:37:43 > 0:37:48Course I do. Can't ever forget your mum, can you?
0:37:48 > 0:37:51Just don't know where she is.
0:37:54 > 0:37:56He's been in and out of the hospital for years now,
0:37:56 > 0:37:59but we've never seen him the way he was the other night.
0:37:59 > 0:38:01When your program went out on radio,
0:38:01 > 0:38:04he just... he just broke down, he just howled.
0:38:04 > 0:38:06And then all he wanted to do was get a hold of you.
0:38:06 > 0:38:09- I'm glad I could be here. - He's just over here.
0:38:11 > 0:38:12I was only three.
0:38:14 > 0:38:17Someone told me my parents were dead.
0:38:18 > 0:38:21Then I was on a boat coming here.
0:38:21 > 0:38:23I grew up in the orphanage.
0:38:31 > 0:38:33You don't want to hear this, Margaret.
0:38:33 > 0:38:35Yes, I do.
0:38:37 > 0:38:38That's why I'm here.
0:39:11 > 0:39:15'It was Christmas. I was really excited.
0:39:15 > 0:39:19- 'I...was about seven... - SHE SOBS
0:39:21 > 0:39:24..by then.
0:39:24 > 0:39:28I had this wonderful singing voice, you see.
0:39:29 > 0:39:33Used to give concerts at the orphanage
0:39:33 > 0:39:39and this...dentist and his wife
0:39:39 > 0:39:45asked if I'd come to their home for Christmas Eve
0:39:45 > 0:39:49and you know, sing for them.
0:39:49 > 0:39:53TELEPHONE RINGS
0:39:55 > 0:39:58- Hello?- 'Hello.'
0:39:58 > 0:40:00Oh, Merv.
0:40:00 > 0:40:03'Thought I'd take a chance. Couldn't sleep.'
0:40:05 > 0:40:08- What time is it there? - 'Three in the morning.
0:40:08 > 0:40:13- 'Just wondered if you were OK.' - Oh, you know. Getting by.
0:40:13 > 0:40:16- 'What's wrong?'- Oh.
0:40:16 > 0:40:22It's just...some of the things that I'm hearing...
0:40:22 > 0:40:25'Get an earlier flight.'
0:40:25 > 0:40:29I'll come home just before Christmas, like I promised.
0:40:29 > 0:40:30It's only a week away.
0:40:30 > 0:40:35'They were going to keep me over Christmas.
0:40:35 > 0:40:39'I was going to get presents, proper Christmas dinner.'
0:40:42 > 0:40:43Come here.
0:40:43 > 0:40:45'They had a big party.
0:40:45 > 0:40:48'I sang Ave Maria.
0:40:48 > 0:40:53'The woman said I was a little angel.'
0:40:57 > 0:40:59And the dentist...
0:41:04 > 0:41:08..dentist and two other men, they took me into the bathroom
0:41:08 > 0:41:10and uh, they...
0:41:11 > 0:41:13..they...
0:41:22 > 0:41:28# Ave Maria... #
0:41:37 > 0:41:40- What's wrong?- We can't have that.
0:41:40 > 0:41:44We can't have any of it!
0:41:45 > 0:41:49- Margaret? Margaret! - Can't have this.
0:41:49 > 0:41:53- We can't have any of this. - Margaret. Hey, stop, stop!
0:41:59 > 0:42:01So, what do I tell Ben and Rachel?
0:42:01 > 0:42:03"Sorry, Christmas is cancelled."
0:42:05 > 0:42:07Oh, Merv, I missed you.
0:42:08 > 0:42:10I missed you.
0:42:12 > 0:42:14I'm sorry.
0:42:14 > 0:42:17Really sorry.
0:42:20 > 0:42:22Christmas back on, then?
0:42:24 > 0:42:28As long as I don't have to do any bloody carol singing.
0:42:57 > 0:42:59FAINT CAROL SINGING
0:43:13 > 0:43:15Jack?
0:43:15 > 0:43:17Oh, my God!
0:43:17 > 0:43:19Well, I thought you'd never hurry up and find my mum
0:43:19 > 0:43:22unless I came and helped you out.
0:43:24 > 0:43:25Come in, come in.
0:43:25 > 0:43:29- So you just got here?- Yep, yep.
0:43:29 > 0:43:31Wow!
0:43:35 > 0:43:37OK.
0:43:37 > 0:43:41Going to this address. Map-reading?
0:43:41 > 0:43:43I think I can do that, yeah.
0:43:51 > 0:43:55Yeah, it's 71 Lord Nelson Street. Thank you.
0:43:55 > 0:43:59Yeah, no. Well, I'd be grateful if she could give me a call.
0:43:59 > 0:44:02Yeah. It's Margaret Humphreys.
0:44:02 > 0:44:04Yes, yes, thank you.
0:44:04 > 0:44:09MUSIC OBSCURES SPEECH
0:44:15 > 0:44:18She lived over there?
0:44:37 > 0:44:40- So, where are we off to?- Right.
0:44:40 > 0:44:44We're picking up Nicky from work and we're driving to Tyneside.
0:44:44 > 0:44:46Righto.
0:44:59 > 0:45:01You're Jack?
0:45:02 > 0:45:05You're little Jack?
0:45:05 > 0:45:08Oh, my God. You used to sit on my lap.
0:45:09 > 0:45:12- You know me?- Yes.
0:45:12 > 0:45:18- You knew me when I was a little boy? - Yeah, yeah, I can see you now.
0:45:22 > 0:45:24And you're Nicky.
0:45:25 > 0:45:29- So you knew our mother?- Yeah.
0:45:29 > 0:45:32Oh, she was lovely. Where is she now?
0:45:32 > 0:45:36Well, we don't know. We lost her.
0:45:36 > 0:45:40We don't remember because we were in children's homes.
0:45:40 > 0:45:44- Oh, wait a minute, that can't be right.- What?
0:45:46 > 0:45:50Well, the woman I knew would never have put her children in a home.
0:45:50 > 0:45:53She lived for that little boy and girl.
0:45:53 > 0:45:56We think that maybe her relationship went down
0:45:56 > 0:45:59and she was on her own and she couldn't cope.
0:45:59 > 0:46:02No, she wouldn't have ever lost touch with her babies,
0:46:02 > 0:46:04not while there was breath in her body.
0:46:04 > 0:46:09Well, they sent us away, so she wouldn't have been able to find us.
0:46:11 > 0:46:13I see.
0:46:15 > 0:46:18Oh, that would have broken her into bits.
0:46:24 > 0:46:26What was she like?
0:46:27 > 0:46:29What did she look like?
0:46:29 > 0:46:36Let me think. She looked a bit like you, actually.
0:46:46 > 0:46:49- TV:- 'And that was Margaret Humphreys from Nottingham in England.
0:46:49 > 0:46:52'She's claiming thousands of kids had been deported
0:46:52 > 0:46:55'without their parents' consent. Now we will be taking your calls.'
0:46:55 > 0:46:58- REPORTER:- '..today denied allegations
0:46:58 > 0:47:00'surrounding their children's home in Bindoon.
0:47:00 > 0:47:02'The brothers are refuting the claims...
0:47:02 > 0:47:05'..the British nor the government here in Australia
0:47:05 > 0:47:08'have taken any responsibility for this -
0:47:08 > 0:47:10'how would you describe it - deportation?'
0:47:10 > 0:47:15Yes, it's clearly the organised deportation of children
0:47:15 > 0:47:17from one country to another.
0:47:17 > 0:47:21And neither the charities nor the church organisations
0:47:21 > 0:47:24that ran those schemes have been prepared to admit
0:47:24 > 0:47:29- that any mistakes were made? - No. No, they haven't.
0:47:38 > 0:47:40TAPS ON GLASS
0:47:40 > 0:47:42- MAN:- How about a speech, Margaret?
0:47:42 > 0:47:46No, no, really. All right, thank you.
0:47:46 > 0:47:49Well, I want to say thank you to all of you.
0:47:49 > 0:47:55This is the proper launch of the Child Migrants Trust
0:47:55 > 0:47:58and it has a home now - this house.
0:47:58 > 0:48:01And without all of the donations and without all of you,
0:48:01 > 0:48:03none of this would have been possible.
0:48:03 > 0:48:07So, thank you for giving me an office in it.
0:48:07 > 0:48:11And I'm really glad I don't have to spend another day
0:48:11 > 0:48:13working in that hotel room.
0:48:15 > 0:48:17ALL CLAP
0:48:19 > 0:48:20Do you want to grab some food?
0:48:22 > 0:48:24- Cup of tea?- Yes, thanks.
0:48:28 > 0:48:31I'm heading off. You know, long drive home.
0:48:31 > 0:48:34- Oh, are you sure, James?- Yeah.
0:48:34 > 0:48:35I don't really know any of these people.
0:48:35 > 0:48:37I'm sorry. I don't want to spoil your party.
0:48:37 > 0:48:40You don't know any of them?
0:48:40 > 0:48:43Well, yeah, yeah. I know the Bindoon boys, of course.
0:48:46 > 0:48:48- Right.- See you, Margaret.
0:48:55 > 0:48:58TELEPHONE RINGS
0:49:03 > 0:49:04Margaret Humphreys.
0:49:04 > 0:49:06'Listen, you bitch.
0:49:06 > 0:49:10'You tell those whinging bastards to stop talking about Bindoon.
0:49:10 > 0:49:12'If they tell one more lie about the Brothers,
0:49:12 > 0:49:15'just one more, we're coming over there
0:49:15 > 0:49:17'and I'll fucking finish you myself.'
0:49:17 > 0:49:18PHONE CLICKS DOWN
0:49:23 > 0:49:27Do you enjoy running this slanderous publicity machine of yours?
0:49:27 > 0:49:30I'm afraid I don't recognise that description of my work.
0:49:30 > 0:49:33I don't represent any newspaper or any television station.
0:49:33 > 0:49:37But you'll happily declare your wild allegations to any of them.
0:49:37 > 0:49:39I haven't made any direct allegations to the press.
0:49:39 > 0:49:43Some of the boys who were sent to your children's home at Bindoon
0:49:43 > 0:49:46chose to speak to the press when they were approached.
0:49:46 > 0:49:50But none of those contacts were initiated by me.
0:49:50 > 0:49:55Well, since you've stirred things up,
0:49:55 > 0:50:00the Christian Brothers have been forced to conduct an internal inquiry
0:50:00 > 0:50:02into the Boys Towns at Bindoon and elsewhere.
0:50:02 > 0:50:04Now, how have you any idea
0:50:04 > 0:50:07how much distress you have caused to elderly men
0:50:07 > 0:50:08who only sought the best?
0:50:08 > 0:50:12I'm hearing an awful lot about the distress caused to the Brothers.
0:50:12 > 0:50:15No-one's talking about the distress caused to the children
0:50:15 > 0:50:17who were supposed to be in their care.
0:50:26 > 0:50:28You're doing all right then, aren't you?
0:50:30 > 0:50:32They paying you OK, are they?
0:50:34 > 0:50:38This probably isn't the best way to start this conversation, is it?
0:50:39 > 0:50:42I don't think you like me very much, Mrs Humphreys.
0:50:42 > 0:50:46All right, I'll be honest with you, then.
0:50:46 > 0:50:49I don't know about the man sitting opposite me.
0:50:49 > 0:50:53But I'm sure that there's a hurt little boy somewhere inside
0:50:53 > 0:50:55that I'd like very much.
0:50:55 > 0:50:57We're just going to have to take the time to find him.
0:50:59 > 0:51:04And how do I know that you're qualified to do that, Mrs Humphreys?
0:51:07 > 0:51:10You'll have to make your own judgement on that, Mr Connolly.
0:51:10 > 0:51:12You'll just have to trust me.
0:51:16 > 0:51:21It's, uh... That's Len Connolly's first step on Australia over there.
0:51:24 > 0:51:27Then we were processed in here.
0:51:29 > 0:51:31All these little kids quakin' and shakin'
0:51:31 > 0:51:34and wondering what on earth they'd been dropped into.
0:51:34 > 0:51:38Brothers were sent one way, sisters another.
0:51:38 > 0:51:40They were all crying into their sleeves, thinking,
0:51:40 > 0:51:42"It can't be this hot all the time, can it?"
0:51:46 > 0:51:48Then we were put on the buses out here.
0:51:48 > 0:51:50It was when I was shoved onto one of them,
0:51:50 > 0:51:52I realised Theresa wasn't coming with us.
0:51:52 > 0:51:56She was, um, one of the girls who looked after us on the way over.
0:51:56 > 0:51:58She'd taken a shine to me.
0:51:58 > 0:52:01Yeah, I was just a little scrap, you know?
0:52:01 > 0:52:05She made a bit of a pet of me on the voyage over.
0:52:05 > 0:52:06I think I charmed her.
0:52:07 > 0:52:10So when I realised Theresa wasn't coming, I went crazy.
0:52:10 > 0:52:13I was bloody fighting to get to the back.
0:52:13 > 0:52:15I was climbing over everything, trying to get to her.
0:52:20 > 0:52:24Anyway, by the end of that day, I was at the Christian Brothers.
0:52:24 > 0:52:26They'd taken all my clothes.
0:52:26 > 0:52:29They gave me an old shirt and a pair of shorts to wear and, uh...
0:52:29 > 0:52:33I was cleaning out the rubbish pit at Bindoon.
0:52:34 > 0:52:36Yeah.
0:52:38 > 0:52:41Yeah, come on.
0:52:41 > 0:52:44We don't need to talk about that. I just want to find my mother.
0:52:44 > 0:52:47That's it. Help me with that if you can. I don't need anything else.
0:52:47 > 0:52:50I'm not offering anything else. That's not my place.
0:52:50 > 0:52:54All I'm asking is have you imagined what it might be like if we do find her?
0:52:54 > 0:52:56Well, let's just find her first, all right?
0:52:56 > 0:52:59OK, we'll try, but what do you want?
0:52:59 > 0:53:01To find her, to know who she is.
0:53:01 > 0:53:03You know? To know who I am.
0:53:03 > 0:53:05You've got absolutely no hopes or expectations beyond that?
0:53:05 > 0:53:08Look, Mrs Humphreys... Thanks, mate.
0:53:08 > 0:53:11I'm sure that you see old boys and girls day in, day out,
0:53:11 > 0:53:13bawling their eyes out,
0:53:13 > 0:53:15telling you how much they miss their dear old mum.
0:53:15 > 0:53:18Well, the truth is, our mums shot through, didn't they?
0:53:18 > 0:53:21We didn't just fall out of our prams and fly off with Peter Pan, did we?
0:53:21 > 0:53:24No, our mums didn't want us. That's why we're here.
0:53:24 > 0:53:26Isn't that the truth?
0:53:26 > 0:53:30No. The truth is actually much more complicated in most cases.
0:53:30 > 0:53:33No, she didn't want me. She put me in a children's home.
0:53:33 > 0:53:34Well, that's all right.
0:53:34 > 0:53:36Let's just put a face to the old dear.
0:53:36 > 0:53:38I can sit here all day if you like
0:53:38 > 0:53:41and bleat on about what a hard life I had at Bindoon.
0:53:41 > 0:53:44All right, let's talk about Bindoon.
0:53:46 > 0:53:49Look, Mrs Humphreys, I've paid my debts.
0:53:49 > 0:53:52I've sourced the Brothers' farm tools through my company.
0:53:52 > 0:53:55I've made donations to the Christian Brothers.
0:53:55 > 0:53:56I've paid my debts.
0:53:56 > 0:54:00- Your debts? What do you owe them? - Oh, I don't.
0:54:00 > 0:54:02Look, they raised me, fed me, clothed me, whatever,
0:54:02 > 0:54:04and I've paid it all back.
0:54:04 > 0:54:06I don't see how an eight-year-old boy,
0:54:06 > 0:54:09who's working to grow his own food,
0:54:09 > 0:54:12who has one pair of shorts, one shirt and no shoes,
0:54:12 > 0:54:14can be said to be running up much of a debt.
0:54:14 > 0:54:16Well, no-one can say I owe them anything.
0:54:16 > 0:54:17No, I don't think you do.
0:54:19 > 0:54:22But maybe that's the monster living in your head.
0:54:25 > 0:54:27I don't like the idea of you walking around
0:54:27 > 0:54:30with a monster like that in your head.
0:54:43 > 0:54:44- CHILD:- Mummy!
0:54:58 > 0:55:00I'm afraid this won't do.
0:55:00 > 0:55:03I'm here to give somebody some really important news.
0:55:03 > 0:55:06They'll remember this day for the rest of their lives.
0:55:06 > 0:55:09Can you show me something else?
0:55:41 > 0:55:43KNOCK AT DOOR
0:55:48 > 0:55:50Jack. Come in.
0:55:56 > 0:55:57Take a seat.
0:56:09 > 0:56:11That's... that's beautiful.
0:56:13 > 0:56:14Yes.
0:56:16 > 0:56:21So...Merv telephoned me last night.
0:56:21 > 0:56:24And we've had the results of our latest search.
0:56:26 > 0:56:28Have you found my mother?
0:56:28 > 0:56:30Yes.
0:56:37 > 0:56:40We were too late. She's dead, isn't she?
0:56:40 > 0:56:42- Yes, she is.- Yeah.
0:57:02 > 0:57:03Uh...
0:57:08 > 0:57:09When did she die?
0:57:09 > 0:57:12Last year.
0:57:12 > 0:57:14Oh.
0:57:18 > 0:57:21So we were just too late, then?
0:58:02 > 0:58:05- MAN:- Mrs Humphreys, no-one is suggesting for a minute
0:58:05 > 0:58:08that the people you represent have not suffered.
0:58:08 > 0:58:12But this has to be placed in its historical context.
0:58:12 > 0:58:17What was done, was done with the very best intentions.
0:58:17 > 0:58:20These children were placed in children's homes.
0:58:20 > 0:58:22Without casting any blame,
0:58:22 > 0:58:25their family situations were far from ideal.
0:58:25 > 0:58:28A more modern sensibility might suggest
0:58:28 > 0:58:31greater effort should have been made to keep families together.
0:58:31 > 0:58:33But at the time, it was genuinely believed
0:58:33 > 0:58:36to be in the children's interests to give them a fresh start.
0:58:36 > 0:58:40Ultimately, these children were in the care of the British Government.
0:58:40 > 0:58:43And it was the Government of Australia and Britain
0:58:43 > 0:58:45who were responsible for authorising the migration schemes
0:58:45 > 0:58:48and if we're talking about historical context,
0:58:48 > 0:58:51I'll remind you the last migrants were only shipped out 17 years ago.
0:58:51 > 0:58:53But we're not here for recriminations.
0:58:53 > 0:58:54There's no need for that.
0:58:54 > 0:58:57Now the Child Migrants Trust has been created,
0:58:57 > 0:59:02we can offer you an opportunity to redress some of the damage
0:59:02 > 0:59:05for which your organisations WERE responsible.
0:59:07 > 0:59:10These people were deported as children, young children.
0:59:10 > 0:59:15They've been deprived of their family, their identity.
0:59:15 > 0:59:19They need to find the families they lost.
0:59:19 > 0:59:22I know that you'll want to help them do that.
0:59:26 > 0:59:31I think my organisation would be prepared to make a contribution
0:59:31 > 0:59:33if some trustee arrangement...
0:59:33 > 0:59:35BOTH: You can't be a trustee.
0:59:36 > 0:59:41We have to be able to say to these children - well, adults now -
0:59:41 > 0:59:43that they're safe.
0:59:43 > 0:59:46It has to be a neutral service.
0:59:48 > 0:59:52What we are offering you, the Government,
0:59:52 > 0:59:55is an opportunity to take responsibility
0:59:55 > 0:59:57for what happened to these children.
0:59:57 > 1:00:00If you could at least tell us whether you have any records
1:00:00 > 1:00:02of the child migrants to which you could give us access.
1:00:02 > 1:00:06..over 100 years and I can assure you that we're doing everything...
1:00:06 > 1:00:10Look, they just want to know who they are!
1:00:24 > 1:00:26Well, we said it, didn't we?
1:00:26 > 1:00:28Oh, yes.
1:00:28 > 1:00:30Excuse me, Mrs Humphreys.
1:00:30 > 1:00:33Can I just have a minute of your time?
1:00:33 > 1:00:36You say you're speaking as a mother.
1:00:36 > 1:00:38But please, take consolation in your own family
1:00:38 > 1:00:40rather than meddling with all this.
1:00:40 > 1:00:42I mean, how could you possibly understand
1:00:42 > 1:00:45the real circumstances of these unfortunate children?
1:00:45 > 1:00:46They were living in slums.
1:00:46 > 1:00:48They were children of drunks and degenerates.
1:00:48 > 1:00:49Come away, Margaret.
1:00:52 > 1:00:55- RADIO:- 'So you don't accept the British Government has a case to answer?'
1:00:55 > 1:00:58'We have every sympathy with the feelings of child migrants.'
1:00:58 > 1:01:00'But you take no responsibility?'
1:01:00 > 1:01:02'We have no actual responsibility.
1:01:02 > 1:01:04'Whatever Margaret Humphreys alleges, the fact is...'
1:01:04 > 1:01:07'They were the responsibility of the British Government.'
1:01:07 > 1:01:10'The fact is this may have been a distressing episode in history.
1:01:10 > 1:01:12'But there's no profit in playing the blame game.'
1:01:12 > 1:01:14'Right, well, thank you very much...'
1:01:14 > 1:01:16We've got them rattled now.
1:01:16 > 1:01:19Legally, they're responsible. They know it, we know it.
1:01:19 > 1:01:22We find the paperwork that nails them. They know we will.
1:01:22 > 1:01:24- They know the paperwork's out there.- Yeah.
1:01:24 > 1:01:27I'm going to find it, Margaret. You know I am.
1:01:27 > 1:01:28Yeah.
1:01:33 > 1:01:34You all right?
1:01:34 > 1:01:38Just tired. I've got an early start.
1:01:38 > 1:01:40Len's flight gets in at six.
1:01:40 > 1:01:41Here, let me do that.
1:01:41 > 1:01:44No, never let it be said I didn't take care of my own family
1:01:44 > 1:01:46before I started meddling with others.
1:01:46 > 1:01:49Hey, hey. Hey.
1:01:58 > 1:02:00So it's just us now.
1:02:00 > 1:02:01No help coming.
1:02:01 > 1:02:04We keep putting them on the spot.
1:02:04 > 1:02:06But right now, it is just us.
1:02:11 > 1:02:158,000 miles and I finally get a return trip.
1:02:18 > 1:02:21Well, as long as she accepts me, that's all, isn't it?
1:02:21 > 1:02:23As long as she doesn't turn me away.
1:02:25 > 1:02:28Got a good memory, though.
1:02:28 > 1:02:33I remember walking up a green hill with grass under my bare feet.
1:02:33 > 1:02:35There was someone pulling me by the hand
1:02:35 > 1:02:37because I couldn't walk very well yet.
1:02:37 > 1:02:39I was angry
1:02:39 > 1:02:43cos I'd been promised a penny or a sweetie or something
1:02:43 > 1:02:44and I didn't get it.
1:02:47 > 1:02:50It would have been her, wouldn't it, holding my hand?
1:03:04 > 1:03:06What's that?
1:03:06 > 1:03:09It's a cheque. You can fill in what you like.
1:03:09 > 1:03:11You can decide.
1:03:11 > 1:03:15You can have that or you can have my loyalty. I don't mind which.
1:03:15 > 1:03:17As long as we're square.
1:03:31 > 1:03:32All right, then.
1:03:51 > 1:03:54Oh, you see that? See that? She's in there.
1:03:54 > 1:03:57- Len?- Yeah?
1:03:57 > 1:03:58You want me to go in with you?
1:03:58 > 1:04:00No, no, no. You'll be right.
1:04:00 > 1:04:02No, get yourself a cab back.
1:04:02 > 1:04:07- Or there's a cafe up there that... - Len, I'm going to be fine.
1:04:12 > 1:04:14Thank you, Margaret.
1:04:15 > 1:04:17Thank you.
1:04:17 > 1:04:18You're very welcome, Len.
1:04:20 > 1:04:22Right.
1:04:22 > 1:04:24Here we go, then.
1:05:35 > 1:05:38- RADIO:- 'The boys' home at Bindoon was closed some time ago.'
1:05:38 > 1:05:40'I understand that.'
1:05:40 > 1:05:42'The Christian Brothers are being victimised...'
1:05:42 > 1:05:45- 'Come back to the question.' - 'We're considering legal action
1:05:45 > 1:05:48'to prevent journalists trespassing on church property.'
1:05:48 > 1:05:50I heard you.
1:05:50 > 1:05:52Don't think you can come to Perth and tell any lies.
1:05:52 > 1:05:54- Excuse me? - Good brothers and sisters
1:05:54 > 1:05:56ran decent loving homes for those poor children.
1:05:56 > 1:05:58I do not tell lies.
1:05:58 > 1:06:00Do you know how much you'll hurt the holy fathers with your lies?
1:06:00 > 1:06:02I do not tell lies ever.
1:06:17 > 1:06:21It's Margaret Humphreys from the Child Migrants Trust in Australia.
1:06:21 > 1:06:24Yes, he'll know what it's regarding.
1:06:24 > 1:06:27We've had extensive correspondence on the subject.
1:06:28 > 1:06:29Yes.
1:06:30 > 1:06:33Well, I would like him to return my call.
1:06:33 > 1:06:35Um... Yeah.
1:06:35 > 1:06:37And if he doesn't, I will call you back tomorrow. Thank you.
1:06:42 > 1:06:45You bitch! You fuckin' evil whore!
1:06:45 > 1:06:47Fuckin' open this window! Come on!
1:06:47 > 1:06:48Come on!
1:06:49 > 1:06:52I'm gonna rip you apart! Fuck, you'll get it!
1:06:52 > 1:06:54I can get in any time I like!
1:06:55 > 1:06:57BANGING
1:06:57 > 1:06:58HE GRUNTS Ahh!
1:07:00 > 1:07:02Get out! Get out!
1:07:02 > 1:07:04Get out!
1:07:04 > 1:07:06Arggh! Bitch!
1:07:06 > 1:07:08I can get you any time I like, you bitch!
1:07:08 > 1:07:10You tell lies about the Brothers and you see what you get.
1:07:10 > 1:07:12You fucking whore!
1:07:12 > 1:07:14I'll get you!
1:07:24 > 1:07:27CAR ENGINE STARTS
1:07:30 > 1:07:33ENGINE NOISE RECEDES
1:07:33 > 1:07:35Get home.
1:07:35 > 1:07:37'No, I can't.'
1:07:39 > 1:07:42Call the police. Get out of that house.
1:07:42 > 1:07:45People are depending on me, Merv. CAR HORN TOOTS
1:07:48 > 1:07:50I've got a load of appointments. I've got to go.
1:07:50 > 1:07:53I'll call you back later.
1:08:13 > 1:08:16I heard Bob went out to Bindoon with a camera crew.
1:08:16 > 1:08:18Yeah.
1:08:18 > 1:08:20That'll stir things up a bit.
1:08:24 > 1:08:26Theo said you didn't want to go along.
1:08:29 > 1:08:30No, I didn't.
1:08:38 > 1:08:40Yeah. Here, stop!
1:08:56 > 1:08:58I'll wait for you here.
1:08:58 > 1:09:00No, you don't need to wait for me. I'll get a taxi.
1:09:00 > 1:09:02I really should get a car.
1:09:02 > 1:09:05You don't need a taxi, you don't need a car. I'll wait for you.
1:09:09 > 1:09:10Thank you.
1:09:15 > 1:09:18Where are we? Where are we? Where are we?
1:09:21 > 1:09:22Ah, here we go.
1:09:23 > 1:09:25CLEARS THROAT
1:09:29 > 1:09:30- GRINDS GEARS - Oops!
1:09:33 > 1:09:35Um, it's right.
1:09:35 > 1:09:36Right! The other right.
1:09:38 > 1:09:39CAR HORN HONKS
1:09:41 > 1:09:43- Wanker!- Yeah, sorry, mate.
1:09:45 > 1:09:47- Want a bit of classical on?- No.
1:09:47 > 1:09:49MUSIC: "Wild World" by Cat Stevens
1:09:49 > 1:09:51You can turn that up though.
1:09:51 > 1:09:55# Say you want to start something new
1:09:55 > 1:09:59# And it's breakin' my heart you're leavin'
1:09:59 > 1:10:01# Baby, I'm grievin'
1:10:01 > 1:10:03# And if you wanna leave
1:10:03 > 1:10:04# Take good care LEN HUMS ALONG
1:10:04 > 1:10:08# Hope you have a lot of nice things to wear
1:10:08 > 1:10:12# Then a lot of nice things turn bad out there
1:10:15 > 1:10:19BOTH SING ALONG # Ooh, baby, baby, it's a wild world
1:10:21 > 1:10:25# It's hard to get by just upon a smile
1:10:27 > 1:10:31# Oh, baby, baby, it's a wild world
1:10:33 > 1:10:37# I'll always remember you like a child, girl
1:10:39 > 1:10:43# You know I've seen a lot of what the world can do... #
1:10:57 > 1:11:00Right? Have a good night.
1:11:03 > 1:11:05Jack, what are you doing here?
1:11:05 > 1:11:08Well, Merv rang and asked me to come over.
1:11:08 > 1:11:12- He thought you might need a bit of company.- What did he say?
1:11:12 > 1:11:14He said you needed me here.
1:11:30 > 1:11:31GASPS
1:11:31 > 1:11:33Sorry, Margaret. Just bringing your tea.
1:11:33 > 1:11:35Sorry.
1:11:38 > 1:11:41- You got everything you need?- Yeah.
1:11:41 > 1:11:43I thought I might sleep out on the veranda.
1:11:43 > 1:11:46Don't much like sleeping under a roof.
1:11:46 > 1:11:48All right. Whatever you want.
1:12:11 > 1:12:14CAR APPROACHES
1:12:20 > 1:12:22ENGINE REVS
1:12:30 > 1:12:32- MAN:- Fuck you, bitch!
1:12:32 > 1:12:34Stay away from Bindoon!
1:12:34 > 1:12:36ENGINE REVS
1:12:39 > 1:12:41TYRES SCREECH CAR RECEDES
1:12:44 > 1:12:46You all right in there, Margaret?
1:12:46 > 1:12:48Yeah.
1:13:01 > 1:13:03PANTING
1:13:03 > 1:13:05I...
1:13:05 > 1:13:07I... I can't breathe.
1:13:07 > 1:13:10I can't breathe. I can't breathe.
1:13:10 > 1:13:12- Oh, really?- Yeah.
1:13:12 > 1:13:16PANTING It's my heart. It's my heart.
1:13:16 > 1:13:18- Calm down, darling. - MARGARET PANTING
1:13:20 > 1:13:23- DISTANT:- Sit down and eat your cereal.
1:13:23 > 1:13:26Rachel, come and get your breakfast.
1:13:29 > 1:13:30Rachel!
1:13:38 > 1:13:40Mum?
1:13:44 > 1:13:46Tell them you have to stay here.
1:13:46 > 1:13:49Tell them you belong to us.
1:13:49 > 1:13:51Rachel.
1:13:58 > 1:14:00Rachel.
1:14:00 > 1:14:02No, my darling, it's just...
1:14:07 > 1:14:09I'm taking you to the doctor.
1:14:09 > 1:14:11- I don't need to go. - I'm taking you.
1:14:11 > 1:14:15Oh, for God's sake, I can get myself to the doctor.
1:14:23 > 1:14:25Look, I only came because my husband insisted.
1:14:25 > 1:14:27I just wanted to set his mind at rest.
1:14:27 > 1:14:29I know there's nothing wrong with me.
1:14:29 > 1:14:32I think you have post-traumatic stress disorder.
1:14:32 > 1:14:34I'm sorry but that is rubbish.
1:14:34 > 1:14:37Nothing happened to me, it all happened to them.
1:14:38 > 1:14:43Absorbing other people's pain is a stress of its own.
1:14:45 > 1:14:46I can't stop.
1:14:46 > 1:14:48There's no-one else.
1:14:48 > 1:14:50If I...
1:16:32 > 1:16:34MUFFLED LAUGHTER AND VOICES
1:16:38 > 1:16:40- WOMAN:- And she hasn't stopped.
1:16:40 > 1:16:42Oh, Margaret. Lovely to see you.
1:16:42 > 1:16:44Hello.
1:16:44 > 1:16:46Margaret, hi.
1:16:46 > 1:16:48Hope you don't mind us dropping in on you.
1:16:50 > 1:16:53I was just telling them, Margaret, we had such a good day.
1:16:53 > 1:16:56I really wanted to invite you but we know you're so busy.
1:16:56 > 1:16:5930 years I was working at that pub.
1:16:59 > 1:17:00And they never knew I had a daughter.
1:17:00 > 1:17:03She was really keen for me to come over for the retirement party
1:17:03 > 1:17:06but we didn't know what we were going to tell people.
1:17:06 > 1:17:08- Then Bill says... - Bill's one of the regulars.
1:17:08 > 1:17:10"Who's this lovely young lady, Vera?"
1:17:10 > 1:17:13He's ancient, see, so...
1:17:13 > 1:17:16And I said, "This is my daughter, Bill.
1:17:16 > 1:17:18"My daughter Charlotte."
1:17:18 > 1:17:20- And he says... - Never even blinked.
1:17:20 > 1:17:22"She looks just like you."
1:17:22 > 1:17:25- He could tell.- Anyone could tell.
1:17:25 > 1:17:28And there we were in front of them all, together.
1:17:28 > 1:17:30Mother and daughter.
1:17:30 > 1:17:33- I tell you, Margaret... - It was the happiest moment...
1:17:33 > 1:17:35- BOTH: Of my life.- Both of us.
1:17:35 > 1:17:41We just... We just felt... whole.
1:17:41 > 1:17:43At last.
1:17:43 > 1:17:46Nothing missing.
1:17:46 > 1:17:48I said, "We have to come and tell Margaret."
1:17:48 > 1:17:51But we didn't even know if you'd be here, you're so busy.
1:17:51 > 1:17:54So when are you back off to Australia?
1:17:57 > 1:17:59Well, as soon as this lot can spare me.
1:18:21 > 1:18:24There's a chilled Chardonnay on the table there for you.
1:18:24 > 1:18:28Margaret River. Bit young but hitting its stride, I reckon.
1:18:28 > 1:18:30I didn't come here to drink, Len.
1:18:30 > 1:18:32I thought you wanted to talk.
1:18:32 > 1:18:34I do. I've got some soup too. It's home-cooked.
1:18:36 > 1:18:38- I can cook, you know. - I'm sure you can.
1:18:38 > 1:18:41- You look hungry enough. - I've already eaten.
1:18:41 > 1:18:44What was it you wanted to say?
1:18:44 > 1:18:47You're a difficult woman to entertain, Mrs Humphreys.
1:18:50 > 1:18:52All right.
1:19:10 > 1:19:15Look, um, all this TV coverage, it's stirred everything up, Margaret.
1:19:15 > 1:19:17It's got the boys talking.
1:19:17 > 1:19:22And, um, I've been watching how the boys are around you,
1:19:22 > 1:19:25and, uh, not speaking out of turn, you know what I'm talking about.
1:19:27 > 1:19:29You're like a sister to them.
1:19:29 > 1:19:32You're family after everything you've done.
1:19:32 > 1:19:36You know? Only family most of us will ever have anyway.
1:19:36 > 1:19:38I'm not sure that family is really the right word.
1:19:38 > 1:19:40Well, that's how we feel.
1:19:40 > 1:19:45No, but you're right, it's... it's not real.
1:19:47 > 1:19:50Cos you haven't been there, have you?
1:19:50 > 1:19:54You've heard about our childhood but you haven't touched our childhood.
1:19:54 > 1:19:55Cos you haven't been there.
1:19:55 > 1:19:57Where?
1:19:57 > 1:19:58To Bindoon.
1:20:00 > 1:20:04I'm, uh... I'm asking you to come to Bindoon with me.
1:20:06 > 1:20:08No.
1:20:10 > 1:20:12Well, have a think about it, Margaret.
1:20:12 > 1:20:18Look, Len, what you all suffered at Bindoon, that's your history.
1:20:18 > 1:20:20But it's not mine.
1:20:22 > 1:20:26I have to be careful. I...
1:20:26 > 1:20:28I'm not, um...
1:20:28 > 1:20:32It wouldn't be appropriate for me to get too close to all of that.
1:20:32 > 1:20:35It's... Well, it wouldn't be right.
1:20:35 > 1:20:38No, no, you'll be right. I'll look after you.
1:20:38 > 1:20:40No, Len, I don't want to.
1:20:41 > 1:20:45I don't have to go there and I don't want to.
1:20:46 > 1:20:50OK, OK, but look at it from the old boys' point of view.
1:20:50 > 1:20:53That's like saying that you can't look at who they are.
1:20:53 > 1:20:56Is that what they're saying?
1:20:56 > 1:20:58Well, you have a think about it, Margaret.
1:20:58 > 1:21:01Maybe that's the monster living in your head.
1:21:01 > 1:21:05I don't like to think of you walking around
1:21:05 > 1:21:07with a monster like that in your head.
1:21:31 > 1:21:33Well, we should be there in a couple of hours.
1:21:33 > 1:21:36It used to take six before they graded the road.
1:21:36 > 1:21:39God. You should have seen it -
1:21:39 > 1:21:4240 or 50 little nippers bouncing around in the back of an open truck,
1:21:42 > 1:21:45eating dust and flies, crying for their mums.
1:21:45 > 1:21:48We thought we'd been dropped off of the end of the earth.
1:22:31 > 1:22:33You all right?
1:22:53 > 1:22:55See it from here first.
1:23:21 > 1:23:23Is it what you expected?
1:23:23 > 1:23:25I didn't know it would be so big.
1:23:27 > 1:23:30And I didn't know it would be so beautiful.
1:23:30 > 1:23:33The boys put every stone of that building together.
1:23:33 > 1:23:35I know.
1:23:38 > 1:23:42The cement would burn your feet.
1:23:42 > 1:23:44We'd no shoes.
1:23:44 > 1:23:46The cement would burn the cuts on our feet
1:23:46 > 1:23:49and the sores on our hands and knees.
1:23:49 > 1:23:55All day, in blazing heat, no rest, no water.
1:23:55 > 1:23:57I was nine-years-old
1:23:57 > 1:24:02and I was lifting rocks the size of my upper body.
1:24:03 > 1:24:06And he's yelling at us,
1:24:06 > 1:24:10"You weak, weak, pitiful sons of whores."
1:24:10 > 1:24:13We built stations of the cross.
1:24:13 > 1:24:16But who was crucified, huh?
1:24:16 > 1:24:18Tell me that.
1:24:20 > 1:24:21You all right to go down?
1:24:23 > 1:24:25Suppose they don't let us in.
1:24:25 > 1:24:28There's a swimming pool at the back of the building.
1:24:28 > 1:24:30I paid for it. They'll let us in.
1:25:03 > 1:25:06He had this... he had this big knobby stick.
1:25:06 > 1:25:11And he would crack you over the skull with it.
1:25:11 > 1:25:15Leather belts. Fan belt from the tractor.
1:25:15 > 1:25:18Anything that would give you a good wallop, you know?
1:25:21 > 1:25:24They'll still be having their breakfast. Feel like a cup of tea?
1:25:25 > 1:25:27Come on.
1:26:07 > 1:26:08Morning, brothers.
1:26:13 > 1:26:15I've brought Mrs Humphreys
1:26:15 > 1:26:18to have a look around the old place if that's all right.
1:26:21 > 1:26:22Come through.
1:26:39 > 1:26:40There you go.
1:26:44 > 1:26:46Is there any chance of a cuppa?
1:27:25 > 1:27:28We can do better than a chipped cup, can't we, brother?
1:27:34 > 1:27:38'We'd hear one of the brothers coming.'
1:27:38 > 1:27:41Just his footsteps on the wooden floor.
1:27:41 > 1:27:45You'd be lying there in the wet sheets and you're thinking,
1:27:45 > 1:27:49"Oh, please, God... Please, God, don't let it be me."
1:27:49 > 1:27:52He would make you strip naked
1:27:52 > 1:27:57and get on the tables with everybody watching you.
1:27:57 > 1:28:00Don't know where I thought I could run to,
1:28:00 > 1:28:01there's nothing there for miles.
1:28:01 > 1:28:05He came after me on horseback.
1:28:05 > 1:28:07When he caught me...
1:28:09 > 1:28:11..he tied me to a tree.
1:28:11 > 1:28:13And he, uh...
1:28:15 > 1:28:17He...
1:28:22 > 1:28:24'You probably can't believe me.'
1:28:31 > 1:28:33'Of course I believe you.'
1:28:40 > 1:28:43'The fucker raped me, Margaret.'
1:28:46 > 1:28:49Hey, I think you might have forgotten something, brother.
1:28:49 > 1:28:52TAPS LID ON TEAPOT
1:28:52 > 1:28:54I'll fix it up, shall I?
1:29:08 > 1:29:12Didn't matter if he split your skull open, he'd keep whacking away.
1:29:12 > 1:29:15You just thought...
1:29:17 > 1:29:19"I'm nothing now.
1:29:19 > 1:29:20"Nothing at all."
1:29:23 > 1:29:25Who's gonna... Who's gonna look after me?
1:29:27 > 1:29:31Who's gonna look after me? I'm nobody.
1:29:53 > 1:29:56Have I disturbed you, brothers?
1:29:57 > 1:29:59Have I frightened you?
1:30:01 > 1:30:04What have you got to be frightened of?
1:30:04 > 1:30:06Grown men like you.
1:30:42 > 1:30:45Look at that, Margaret.
1:30:45 > 1:30:49Can't see another house. Nothing but bush.
1:30:51 > 1:30:53No-one would find you here.
1:30:56 > 1:30:59He'd wait for me after dark, Brother Norman.
1:30:59 > 1:31:04He took a shine to me. I was a favourite or something, I suppose.
1:31:04 > 1:31:06I don't know.
1:31:06 > 1:31:10You just think, "I'll live through this. It'll stop one day."
1:31:13 > 1:31:15Bloody years.
1:31:19 > 1:31:20BIRD SCREECHES
1:31:20 > 1:31:24Margaret, have a look at that. Black cockatoo.
1:31:24 > 1:31:27Oh, there'd be flocks of them over here sometimes.
1:31:27 > 1:31:29They'd sound like trains going over your head.
1:31:29 > 1:31:32- You all right?- Yeah.
1:31:32 > 1:31:34You've gone a funny colour.
1:31:34 > 1:31:35I'll just get you a drink.
1:31:49 > 1:31:50There you go.
1:31:53 > 1:31:55- You all right? - I'm fine. It's just the heat.
1:31:55 > 1:31:56OK.
1:31:56 > 1:31:57Know what your problem is, Mrs H?
1:31:57 > 1:31:59You don't look after yourself properly.
1:31:59 > 1:32:01You won't let anyone else do it either.
1:32:01 > 1:32:03Len, it's not for anybody else to look after me.
1:32:03 > 1:32:06I've been loved and looked after my entire life.
1:32:06 > 1:32:09It's your turn now. But you never get it.
1:32:09 > 1:32:13Everybody thinks there's going to be this big cathartic moment
1:32:13 > 1:32:15when the wrongs are righted and the wounds healed,
1:32:15 > 1:32:17but it's not going to happen.
1:32:17 > 1:32:20I can't give you back what you've lost.
1:32:23 > 1:32:25Well, there's plenty of other people in that boat.
1:32:25 > 1:32:29Well, it's not enough, is it, Len? It's never enough.
1:32:32 > 1:32:35Jeez, old Bindoon, it shook you up all right, didn't it?
1:32:35 > 1:32:37No, I'm fine.
1:32:39 > 1:32:41It should shake me up. I'm the one who should be shaking.
1:32:43 > 1:32:48But even if I was lying here in the dirt bawling like a kid,
1:32:48 > 1:32:50I couldn't feel it all, could I?
1:32:50 > 1:32:52Isn't that what you'd tell me?
1:32:53 > 1:32:55I had to stop crying when I was eight.
1:32:55 > 1:32:57I don't know how to start now.
1:32:59 > 1:33:01But YOU feel it.
1:33:01 > 1:33:05You feel it for all of us because we can't, you do.
1:33:05 > 1:33:08No, you're fighting for us, Margaret. You're in there for us.
1:33:08 > 1:33:09You're on our side.
1:33:09 > 1:33:11So let the rest go.
1:33:11 > 1:33:15Just let the rest go.
1:33:17 > 1:33:19What you're doing is enough.
1:33:22 > 1:33:24It's more than anyone else has ever given me.
1:33:56 > 1:33:58Happy Christmas.
1:34:00 > 1:34:03- And happy Christmas.- Oh!
1:34:06 > 1:34:08Ooh!
1:34:12 > 1:34:15Happy Christmas, darling.
1:34:22 > 1:34:24Here you go, love.
1:34:24 > 1:34:25Happy Christmas.
1:34:25 > 1:34:28So, what are you going to give all of us for Christmas, Ben?
1:34:28 > 1:34:31I gave you my mum.
1:34:38 > 1:34:39So you did.
1:34:39 > 1:34:43So you did, darling, and we love you for it.
1:34:43 > 1:34:44Hear, hear.
1:35:06 > 1:35:10Hey, don't do that. Don't do that.
1:35:10 > 1:35:12Don't start snivelling.
1:35:13 > 1:35:16Bloody hell, woman, what are you trying to do to me?
1:35:22 > 1:35:26- See you in a couple of weeks. - See you in a couple of weeks.