Killing for Love

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0:00:08 > 0:00:14This programme contains some strong language and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

0:00:17 > 0:00:20WATER TRICKLES

0:00:40 > 0:00:42The members of the jury reached a verdict.

0:00:43 > 0:00:46We, the jury, find the defendant guilty

0:00:46 > 0:00:49of first-degree murder of Derek William Reginald Haysom

0:00:49 > 0:00:51and Nancy Astor Haysom

0:00:51 > 0:00:54and fix punishment and imprisonment for life.

0:00:54 > 0:00:56- Why didn't you say anything? - Do you still say you're innocent?

0:00:56 > 0:00:58Anything else?

0:00:58 > 0:01:00All right, everybody out of the way.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02Move it, please.

0:01:02 > 0:01:03Get back on the sidewalk.

0:01:16 > 0:01:20I was the investigator for the Sheriff's Office.

0:01:21 > 0:01:25It was around three o'clock that Wednesday afternoon we got the call,

0:01:25 > 0:01:27it came over the radio.

0:01:27 > 0:01:29'Ricky was there, too.

0:01:29 > 0:01:32'Ricky and I worked side-by-side, hand-in-hand.'

0:01:34 > 0:01:36Chuck Reid and I lived this case.

0:01:36 > 0:01:40It was the amount of overkill that was involved and the amount of blood

0:01:40 > 0:01:42that was there. It was just...

0:01:42 > 0:01:44I'd never seen anything like that before.

0:01:44 > 0:01:48Stepped inside and it was like stepping inside of a slaughterhouse.

0:01:50 > 0:01:53You know, "What gang of people did this?"

0:01:53 > 0:01:56Mr Haysom was lying face up, just inside the door.

0:01:56 > 0:01:59I had to step over him and go into the dining room,

0:01:59 > 0:02:01and it was covered in dried blood.

0:02:01 > 0:02:05And on the kitchen floor, Miss Haysom was lying deceased.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09Upstairs, in Miss Haysom's room,

0:02:09 > 0:02:12we found some photos of Elizabeth,

0:02:12 > 0:02:13her daughter, in the nude.

0:02:13 > 0:02:18She was kneeling down at the side of her bed like she was praying.

0:02:18 > 0:02:21In front of her was a Shakespeare book.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24The photos were taken kind of from the side.

0:02:24 > 0:02:26We just had heard, you know,

0:02:26 > 0:02:29the kind of relationship between her and her mother.

0:02:49 > 0:02:53Miss Haysom, you refer to yourself as Lady Macbeth.

0:02:53 > 0:02:56- Yes.- Your Shakespeare is certainly much better than mine,

0:02:56 > 0:02:57but it seems to me, if I recall,

0:02:57 > 0:03:00Lady Macbeth encouraged old Macbeth to commit murder,

0:03:00 > 0:03:02- didn't she?- Yes, she did.

0:03:02 > 0:03:04Miss Haysom, in the police sentencing reports,

0:03:04 > 0:03:08you make some statement that you had a full-blown sexual relationship

0:03:08 > 0:03:10with your mother at one point...

0:03:22 > 0:03:23Could you answer that, please?

0:03:28 > 0:03:30You did state you had

0:03:30 > 0:03:32a full-blown sexual relationship with your mother?

0:03:34 > 0:03:35I didn't put it that way, no, sir.

0:03:35 > 0:03:39- How did you put it?- Well, the investigator asked me about

0:03:39 > 0:03:42photographs that my mother took of me.

0:03:42 > 0:03:45Miss Haysom, your mother has been butchered.

0:03:45 > 0:03:48- Yes, she has, sir.- You called her a liar and an alcoholic.

0:03:48 > 0:03:50- I did not call her an alcoholic. - Was she a sexual abuser?

0:03:50 > 0:03:52Did she sexually abuse you?

0:03:52 > 0:03:55If she didn't, for God's sake, clear her name now.

0:03:55 > 0:03:56She did not sexually abuse me.

0:03:56 > 0:03:57Thank you.

0:03:58 > 0:04:01- Hey!- Hey, Chuck.- How are you all doing?- Great to see you, man.

0:04:01 > 0:04:03- Good to see you.- Yeah, come on in!

0:04:03 > 0:04:06The last time I was in here, it was a mess.

0:04:06 > 0:04:07Mr Haysom was here.

0:04:07 > 0:04:10He was laying right here.

0:04:10 > 0:04:14Miss Haysom was right here, her head was right here.

0:04:14 > 0:04:16She was laying like this. And, supposedly...

0:04:18 > 0:04:20..Jens was supposedly over here

0:04:20 > 0:04:22and got up and walked around behind Mr Haysom.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25And cut across his throat this way.

0:04:25 > 0:04:30- The thing that came up is Haysom abusing Elizabeth.- Mm-hm.

0:04:30 > 0:04:34We found five or six pictures of Elizabeth...

0:04:34 > 0:04:35totally in the nude.

0:04:35 > 0:04:38Supposedly, her mother did that.

0:04:38 > 0:04:42Jens Soering, he was so possessed over that girl,

0:04:42 > 0:04:44she did nothing but use the boy.

0:04:44 > 0:04:48She used him... I think she used him to get to her parents.

0:04:48 > 0:04:51- I call it the way it is and the way I see it.- Mm-hm.

0:04:51 > 0:04:53Then you can decide for yourself.

0:04:53 > 0:04:56I'll never forget the night we luminoled it.

0:04:56 > 0:04:59If you know what luminol is... It's a spray.

0:04:59 > 0:05:02If you bleed on this table, someone can come in here, wipe it up,

0:05:02 > 0:05:05six months from now, come in and spray luminol on it

0:05:05 > 0:05:08and you'll see a greenish, bluish glow.

0:05:08 > 0:05:11Ricky was upstairs and all of a sudden,

0:05:11 > 0:05:15bluish-green footprints you could see just step outside the door,

0:05:15 > 0:05:18just started appearing and going across the grass.

0:05:25 > 0:05:27Derek WR Haysom and his wife Nancy

0:05:27 > 0:05:30were stabbed to death in their home Monday.

0:05:30 > 0:05:33The bodies were discovered at their Holcomb Rock Road home.

0:05:33 > 0:05:38Haysom is a Canadian resident and a prominent Nova Scotia businessman.

0:05:38 > 0:05:40No motive at all has been determined.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42Paul Freifeld, News 13.

0:06:03 > 0:06:05TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:

0:07:09 > 0:07:14"My dearest Jens, the days go slowly.

0:07:14 > 0:07:16"It is time to risk all for the truth.

0:07:18 > 0:07:19"You will not forgive me.

0:07:24 > 0:07:27"Hate me, hit me, whatever.

0:07:27 > 0:07:29"But please, hug me when we meet.

0:07:32 > 0:07:34"Promise me, Jens,

0:07:34 > 0:07:36"whatever it takes now,

0:07:36 > 0:07:39"promise me you will not let me ruin your life.

0:07:40 > 0:07:45"I have seriously fucked up on mine, don't let me destroy yours.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49"This is the first real and good thing I have ever done.

0:07:50 > 0:07:52"I would kill myself if I discovered

0:07:52 > 0:07:55"that you were compromising yourself for me.

0:07:56 > 0:07:58"Don't do it.

0:07:59 > 0:08:01"I love you. Elizabeth."

0:08:09 > 0:08:12TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:

0:08:24 > 0:08:26Where did you go to school?

0:08:26 > 0:08:28I went to Wycombe Abbey in England.

0:08:28 > 0:08:33Wycombe was considered one of the most prestigious schools in England.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36How much contact did you have with your mother and father?

0:08:36 > 0:08:37They never came to...

0:08:39 > 0:08:41..to my...

0:08:41 > 0:08:45successes or failures while I was at school.

0:08:45 > 0:08:49They never saw me play a lacrosse match. They never saw me perform.

0:08:49 > 0:08:54I started having some problems at school. My father adored me.

0:08:54 > 0:08:58And...he saw me as being perfect.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03'I was a reporter with the Richmond Times-Dispatch newspaper'

0:09:03 > 0:09:06and I covered western Virginia.

0:09:07 > 0:09:10When we heard about the Haysoms' double murder,

0:09:10 > 0:09:13at that time, they thought it was just a random killing.

0:09:13 > 0:09:16And the story began for me right there,

0:09:16 > 0:09:18starting with the mysterious murder

0:09:18 > 0:09:21of two very well-known, prominent people.

0:09:21 > 0:09:25It was a big, big story in Virginia, and Elizabeth is...

0:09:25 > 0:09:27Number one, she was a very unconventional beauty.

0:09:27 > 0:09:32I mean, she wasn't your standard beauty.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35And I think she had a way of speaking and a charm about her

0:09:35 > 0:09:39that attracted a lot of people.

0:09:39 > 0:09:41And I don't know exactly what that charm was. It was a bit of...

0:09:42 > 0:09:46When she walked into a room, you straightened your spine a bit,

0:09:46 > 0:09:49because she just seemed like she knew a lot.

0:09:49 > 0:09:52She was very worldly, very articulate, smart, obviously.

0:09:52 > 0:09:56I spoke to my parents about changing my A-level subjects.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01And my father said it was nonsense.

0:10:01 > 0:10:04- I'm sorry, your father said what? - It was nonsense.

0:10:05 > 0:10:08I... I completely overreacted.

0:10:08 > 0:10:09I...

0:10:11 > 0:10:14I threw everything up, I ran away.

0:10:14 > 0:10:17I was using drugs extensively.

0:10:17 > 0:10:19What types of drugs were you using?

0:10:19 > 0:10:23A lot of LSD, and I was doing a lot of heroin.

0:10:24 > 0:10:26- What...?- Heroin.

0:10:27 > 0:10:33'At the same time, you could tell that she lied.'

0:10:33 > 0:10:35She was a good liar, she lied,

0:10:35 > 0:10:38but you could tell simply that she was used to lying.

0:10:38 > 0:10:40And she'd been a drug addict, which she admitted,

0:10:40 > 0:10:43and, of course, drug addicts often learn how to lie very well

0:10:43 > 0:10:45and often can't stop themselves.

0:10:45 > 0:10:49So I think the number one thing I would take away from it is that,

0:10:49 > 0:10:51for her, she was a beautiful, charming liar.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54I wrote a poem for my mother.

0:10:54 > 0:10:59She always wanted me to write poems about her or to her. For her.

0:10:59 > 0:11:02And I was now falling into this role

0:11:02 > 0:11:06of again playing the perfect daughter, of being...

0:11:09 > 0:11:11..social and charming.

0:11:11 > 0:11:15And I was being taken around and exhibited.

0:11:15 > 0:11:19I wanted to find out what was going wrong with my life and instead,

0:11:19 > 0:11:21I was... I was paraded.

0:11:21 > 0:11:25They controlled every aspect of what I was doing.

0:11:25 > 0:11:32My mother would turn up at odd hours of the day and night

0:11:32 > 0:11:37in my dorm room to check on me and what I was doing.

0:11:37 > 0:11:41And I know she was doing it out of love,

0:11:41 > 0:11:44and she was concerned.

0:11:46 > 0:11:48And I suppose I took it the wrong way.

0:11:48 > 0:11:53I was resentful of this attention.

0:11:53 > 0:11:57What is your first recollection of Jens?

0:11:57 > 0:12:00I met him...the...

0:12:01 > 0:12:03..the very first day I was there.

0:12:03 > 0:12:06It was a barbecue for the scholars in the evening,

0:12:06 > 0:12:07and I was introduced to him.

0:12:08 > 0:12:10And, um...

0:12:12 > 0:12:16..my very first thought of him was that he was very rude,

0:12:16 > 0:12:19he was very hostile, he was very aggressive.

0:12:19 > 0:12:21But he was also very brilliant.

0:12:25 > 0:12:27TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:

0:12:51 > 0:12:55He was introduced to me as the Jefferson Scholar and as a German.

0:12:55 > 0:13:00And I think...that appealed to me.

0:13:00 > 0:13:02TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:

0:14:06 > 0:14:10Some writing that you made, is that right?

0:14:11 > 0:14:15Yes. It's a letter in diary form, I suppose.

0:14:15 > 0:14:17Where was this written?

0:14:17 > 0:14:20This was written at Loose Chippings in Lynchburg. Holcomb Rock Road.

0:14:20 > 0:14:25- That's your home?- Yes. Writing is the way I express myself.

0:14:25 > 0:14:29I expose my heart on paper.

0:14:29 > 0:14:31TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:

0:14:49 > 0:14:51I shared everything with him,

0:14:51 > 0:14:54and...I shared this with him.

0:14:56 > 0:14:58"My dearest Jens.

0:14:58 > 0:15:00"A day of raining loneliness.

0:15:01 > 0:15:04"This morning, I built my father a desk for his computer.

0:15:05 > 0:15:06"I didn't smoke.

0:15:08 > 0:15:09"My parents began to drink."

0:15:11 > 0:15:15I think I was trying to tell him that...

0:15:15 > 0:15:16I was unhappy.

0:15:16 > 0:15:20He always described how unhappy he was at home,

0:15:20 > 0:15:25and I was describing to him that we all have strife at home

0:15:25 > 0:15:27at various times.

0:15:27 > 0:15:30I expressed this.

0:15:30 > 0:15:32"I bought cigarettes.

0:15:32 > 0:15:34"My father fell down.

0:15:34 > 0:15:35"I prayed."

0:15:35 > 0:15:38I got carried away on many occasions.

0:15:38 > 0:15:40It all becomes very surreal.

0:15:42 > 0:15:45Would it be possible to hypnotise my parents, do voodoo on them?

0:15:45 > 0:15:47- "Do voodoo on them." - Will them to death.

0:15:47 > 0:15:48"Will them to death.

0:15:48 > 0:15:52"It seems my concentration on their death is causing them problems.

0:15:53 > 0:15:55"My father nearly drove over a cliff.

0:15:57 > 0:16:00"And my mother fell into a fire.

0:16:00 > 0:16:04"I think I shall seriously take up black magic."

0:16:04 > 0:16:08I expressed this very cruelly, very forcefully.

0:16:09 > 0:16:14"I want to be with you, around you, in you, through you,

0:16:14 > 0:16:16"tied to you forever and ever.

0:16:18 > 0:16:20"Please, my darling Jens.

0:16:20 > 0:16:22"Oh, I love and miss you.

0:16:22 > 0:16:24"Elizabeth."

0:16:24 > 0:16:26TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:

0:16:35 > 0:16:39Larry, this is Carlos Santos with the Fluvanna Review.

0:16:39 > 0:16:41I'm trying to interview Elizabeth Haysom.

0:16:41 > 0:16:43If you could help me get a request in to her,

0:16:43 > 0:16:45I'd appreciate the return call.

0:16:45 > 0:16:47She'd be on our cover, I'll tell you that.

0:16:47 > 0:16:49Thanks, bye.

0:16:49 > 0:16:51I'd love to talk to her.

0:16:51 > 0:16:52I'd run down there in a heartbeat.

0:16:52 > 0:16:55The whole motive never made sense.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57When you set up your theory,

0:16:57 > 0:17:00you see things in the light of those theories.

0:17:00 > 0:17:04And so something like what Elizabeth said, you know,

0:17:04 > 0:17:07"We both belong here." She didn't say he belonged in prison,

0:17:07 > 0:17:09she said, "We both belong here."

0:17:11 > 0:17:13You know, there's a ring of truth to that.

0:17:16 > 0:17:18TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:

0:17:28 > 0:17:32He was angry with my parents that...

0:17:32 > 0:17:35they weren't providing me with sufficient funds and they were

0:17:35 > 0:17:37supposed to be so incredibly wealthy, which is not true.

0:17:37 > 0:17:44He wanted to go down to my parents' home and to sort it out with them.

0:17:44 > 0:17:45What did you say?

0:17:45 > 0:17:47That I could kill them.

0:17:48 > 0:17:51At the bottom of page six, would you refer to that, please?

0:17:54 > 0:17:56"Dear Liz. I love you.

0:17:56 > 0:17:58"Je t'aime. Ich liebe dich.

0:17:59 > 0:18:03"How do you feel about a couple of drinks back at my place?

0:18:03 > 0:18:07"I have this new Jacuzzi - wild, baby, wild.

0:18:07 > 0:18:12"It's me again, the Jens, lying in his bed at 22 minutes past midnight.

0:18:12 > 0:18:13"Ghosts dancing all around."

0:18:15 > 0:18:18"Were I to meet your parents, I have the ultimate weapon.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21"Strange things are happening within me."

0:18:21 > 0:18:23"I'm turning more and more into a Christ figure.

0:18:24 > 0:18:28"I believe I would either make them completely lose their wits,

0:18:28 > 0:18:32"get heart attacks, or they would become lovers of the world.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35"Love is a form of meditation,

0:18:35 > 0:18:38"and the ultimate weapon against your parents.

0:18:38 > 0:18:42"My God, how I've got the dinner scene planned out.

0:18:42 > 0:18:46"In the meantime, I love you as totally as I can for right now.

0:18:46 > 0:18:48"Your Jens."

0:18:50 > 0:18:52What did you do after he left?

0:18:52 > 0:18:54As soon as he was gone, I went to a bar next door.

0:18:54 > 0:18:59I bought some drinks and I scored a couple of grams of heroin.

0:18:59 > 0:19:01The fact that I hated my mother so much,

0:19:01 > 0:19:05I feel responsible for that hate and pulling Jens into it.

0:19:05 > 0:19:08Allowing him, in a sense,

0:19:08 > 0:19:12as I feel now, to have killed my parents.

0:19:13 > 0:19:17- Did you go to Lynchburg? - Did I go to Lynchburg? No.

0:19:17 > 0:19:22CHEERING

0:19:22 > 0:19:25- ALL: Y! - What's that spell?!

0:19:25 > 0:19:26ROCKY!

0:19:33 > 0:19:36When Jens returned to Washington that Saturday night, what did he say to you?

0:19:36 > 0:19:39I was at The Rocky Horror Picture Show,

0:19:39 > 0:19:42and I came out of the show and I waited on the side.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45He drove up - he was on the other side of the road.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48And I crossed through the traffic.

0:19:48 > 0:19:55And when I opened the car door, the light inside the car came on.

0:19:55 > 0:19:58And he was...

0:19:58 > 0:20:02wearing some kind of white sheet,

0:20:02 > 0:20:05and he was covered in blood from head to toe.

0:20:05 > 0:20:09So I got into the car, we drove back to the Marriott Hotel,

0:20:09 > 0:20:11and he said that he'd killed my parents.

0:20:13 > 0:20:15I was stunned by the situation.

0:20:15 > 0:20:21It was so huge, so overwhelming, so definite, so final.

0:20:21 > 0:20:24It's extraordinary. I mean, Jens is just...

0:20:25 > 0:20:28He's a wimp. You can't imagine him doing something like that. It's extraordinary.

0:20:28 > 0:20:31Jens Soering was mad.

0:20:31 > 0:20:33He hated the Haysoms.

0:20:33 > 0:20:37He says that he went there trying to reason with them,

0:20:37 > 0:20:41because she had filled his head with all these ideas about how much

0:20:41 > 0:20:43she hated her parents

0:20:43 > 0:20:46and that he couldn't have anything to do with her,

0:20:46 > 0:20:48and he wanted that more than anything.

0:20:48 > 0:20:50He wanted that more than a Jefferson Scholarship,

0:20:50 > 0:20:54he wanted that more than anything. He wanted Elizabeth.

0:20:56 > 0:20:59# In a little honky-tonky village in Texas

0:20:59 > 0:21:01# There's a guy who plays the best piano by far... #

0:21:01 > 0:21:06I was hired by an attorney by the name of Gail Ball.

0:21:06 > 0:21:10She didn't think that Jens Soering was guilty of this.

0:21:12 > 0:21:15And I felt there's a lot of things missing.

0:21:26 > 0:21:28And this is the footprint.

0:21:30 > 0:21:32It says, "University of Virginia Police Department".

0:21:34 > 0:21:35Oh, my dear.

0:21:37 > 0:21:39This is a sad one.

0:21:40 > 0:21:43This is Mrs Haysom's, what she was wearing.

0:21:52 > 0:21:53'Richmond FBI.'

0:21:53 > 0:21:56Uh, yes, ma'am, this is Chuck Reid.

0:21:56 > 0:22:00I'm trying to contact a former agent of yours, Ed Sulzbach.

0:22:00 > 0:22:04He was doing a profile for me on a murder case.

0:22:04 > 0:22:05'Uh-huh.'

0:22:05 > 0:22:10I got a phone call from the Sheriff in Bedford County.

0:22:11 > 0:22:16And the different sheriffs and chiefs around the state of Virginia

0:22:16 > 0:22:19knew me and knew that I was a profiler.

0:22:19 > 0:22:21And I drove out to Bedford County.

0:22:21 > 0:22:25My mission was to study the crime

0:22:25 > 0:22:30and come up with possible suspects.

0:22:30 > 0:22:35And Mrs Haysom was wearing her nightgown with a robe,

0:22:35 > 0:22:39and it occurred to me that Mrs Haysom would never entertain

0:22:39 > 0:22:43strangers in such attire.

0:22:43 > 0:22:50Who might be close enough to her that she would feel comfortable entertaining in a nightgown, a robe?

0:22:50 > 0:22:53We're dealing with, uh...

0:22:53 > 0:22:56somebody who's close to these people.

0:22:56 > 0:22:59And that, I suggested to the investigators.

0:22:59 > 0:23:04'I settled on a daughter, because Mrs Haysom was a very proper woman.

0:23:04 > 0:23:10'And I came to the conclusion pretty quickly that it was someone they knew very well.'

0:23:10 > 0:23:14Ed, did you all do any paperwork on that?

0:23:14 > 0:23:17You and another agent did a psychological profile for us.

0:23:17 > 0:23:21'Yeah. I remember that well. Contact the Richmond office.

0:23:21 > 0:23:24'They can pull the file.

0:23:24 > 0:23:29'Person I suggest to talk to is Debbie Propst - P-R-O-P-S-T.'

0:23:29 > 0:23:33Dave, this is the letter from Bedford County Sheriff's Department.

0:23:33 > 0:23:36- Uh-huh.- In reference to the FBI criminal profile,

0:23:36 > 0:23:41Major Ricky Gardner insisted there was no profile conducted.

0:23:41 > 0:23:43And it's official letterhead.

0:23:43 > 0:23:44PHONE RINGS

0:23:44 > 0:23:47- Hello?- 'Hi, man.' - Ricky, how you doing?

0:23:47 > 0:23:49'Chuck, they're coming back now.

0:23:49 > 0:23:51'Chuck, we never did an FBI profile.

0:23:51 > 0:23:53- Yeah, we did. - 'No, we didn't.'

0:23:53 > 0:23:56It was Ed Sulzbach and another special agent.

0:23:56 > 0:23:57See, that's how I got to know Ed.

0:23:57 > 0:23:59Chuck Reid absolutely misspoke

0:23:59 > 0:24:02when he said there was never any profile done on this case.

0:24:02 > 0:24:05There was never a profile done in this case.

0:24:05 > 0:24:08Now, I don't know how nobody ever wrote anything down...

0:24:11 > 0:24:16'Chuck, if we had done one of those, that would have been exculpatory evidence.'

0:24:16 > 0:24:20To be honest with you, I have a copy of some old field reports and stuff.

0:24:20 > 0:24:23'But, obviously, there was nothing mentioned in the...'

0:24:23 > 0:24:26- The profile... - 'The profile.'

0:24:26 > 0:24:28Yeah, yeah, it's in there.

0:24:28 > 0:24:33It's stating that Special Agent Ed Sulzbach did the psychological profile

0:24:33 > 0:24:35and came back to a female acquaintance, and...

0:24:35 > 0:24:38It's four or five different things that's in there.

0:24:38 > 0:24:40'So you think they have thrown one out?'

0:24:40 > 0:24:41Yeah, I know they have.

0:24:41 > 0:24:44The FBI never throws anything away.

0:24:45 > 0:24:48It's somewhere in the FBI's vast...

0:24:48 > 0:24:50'It's still there somewhere.'

0:24:51 > 0:24:54Thank you, John. Ms Haysom.

0:24:56 > 0:24:59You went there and cleaned up the blood, didn't you?

0:24:59 > 0:25:01You went to the house to mop up the...

0:25:01 > 0:25:03I never wiped up any blood in the house.

0:25:03 > 0:25:06Professional cleaners mopped up the blood.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08But the fact is, Ms Haysom,

0:25:08 > 0:25:11that you insisted on going back to the house and cleaning yourself.

0:25:11 > 0:25:13That's not correct, sir.

0:25:13 > 0:25:16If Howard Haysom, your brother, said that that is indeed the case,

0:25:16 > 0:25:19- would you disagree with him? - Yes, I would.

0:25:21 > 0:25:25Did you also make the statement that as you were cleaning round the fireplace,

0:25:25 > 0:25:27that one of your friends heard,

0:25:27 > 0:25:32"There's Pop's brains, just cleaning up Pop's brains"?

0:25:32 > 0:25:33It's rather inaccurate.

0:25:33 > 0:25:36It was not around the fireplace, it was around a door.

0:25:36 > 0:25:39Excuse me, I'm not interested in where it was, I'm interested in whether...

0:25:39 > 0:25:41Well, we're supposed to be dealing here with accuracy.

0:25:41 > 0:25:43What happened, what did not happen.

0:25:43 > 0:25:45Thank you, then. You did make the statement nevertheless.

0:25:45 > 0:25:47What I said, and what happened...

0:25:47 > 0:25:52I was doing some cleaning and there was...

0:25:52 > 0:25:57several hairs from my father's head on the door.

0:25:57 > 0:25:59And I was sick.

0:25:59 > 0:26:01TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:

0:26:28 > 0:26:33So we drove to Charlottesville to talk to Elizabeth at the University of Virginia Police Department.

0:26:33 > 0:26:36I asked, I said, "How can we get a hold of this Jens fella?

0:26:36 > 0:26:38"We need," you know, "we need to talk to him."

0:26:48 > 0:26:51I'll never forget sitting in the office the day that Sunday

0:26:51 > 0:26:53that Ricky and I was interviewing him.

0:26:53 > 0:26:55In my mind, I'm thinking to myself, "This boy...

0:26:55 > 0:26:58"There's no way this little boy could've done something like that."

0:27:29 > 0:27:31So when he left that day, he told me, he said,

0:27:31 > 0:27:34"Look, let me go back to university. I'll think about it."

0:27:34 > 0:27:37And on Wednesday, the 9th,

0:27:37 > 0:27:40October the 9th, he said, "I'll give you a call

0:27:40 > 0:27:43"and let you know what I've decided to do."

0:27:43 > 0:27:46I got a call about ten o'clock Sunday night.

0:27:46 > 0:27:48The same time Ricky did.

0:27:48 > 0:27:51That we needed to get to Charlottesville,

0:27:51 > 0:27:54that Elizabeth and Jens had skipped the country.

0:28:01 > 0:28:06I was working at that weekend in which Jens's father called me.

0:28:06 > 0:28:09Jens is the same age as my middle child.

0:28:09 > 0:28:11They were in prep school in Atlanta.

0:28:11 > 0:28:15The boys were about 11 or 12.

0:28:15 > 0:28:18Jens's father was a high government official

0:28:18 > 0:28:20in the German consular court in Atlanta.

0:28:20 > 0:28:23He said, "I have a problem, would you pick me up at the airport?"

0:28:25 > 0:28:27I said, "Of course I will."

0:28:27 > 0:28:29- VOICE CRACKS:- It was an awful day.

0:28:31 > 0:28:34We travelled to the University of Virginia from here,

0:28:34 > 0:28:37which is about an hour and a half.

0:28:37 > 0:28:38I'm sorry for this.

0:28:39 > 0:28:43But we got to the University of Virginia,

0:28:43 > 0:28:45and on the way over, he told me what had happened.

0:28:48 > 0:28:50"Dear officers Reid and Gardner.

0:28:50 > 0:28:54"I'm certain that sooner or later, you'll become involved in whatever

0:28:54 > 0:28:57"investigation may be made into my disappearance.

0:28:57 > 0:29:01"I tried to save you some effort by including photocopies of the letters

0:29:01 > 0:29:04"I'm leaving for family and friends.

0:29:04 > 0:29:08"But undoubtedly, you will travel extensively through my belongings anyway.

0:29:08 > 0:29:11"Please try to leave them in a decent state

0:29:11 > 0:29:13"and return them to my parents.

0:29:13 > 0:29:15"They may want to keep them.

0:29:15 > 0:29:18"I assume that especially you, Mr Gardner,

0:29:18 > 0:29:22"will be very excited by now, which is why I hate to disappoint you.

0:29:22 > 0:29:25"Unfortunately for you, I really am leaving, for the reason

0:29:25 > 0:29:28"I discussed in my letter to my parents.

0:29:28 > 0:29:31"I suggest that you continue your investigation as before.

0:29:31 > 0:29:35"Undoubtedly, you will find who you're looking for.

0:29:35 > 0:29:38"From what Liz has told me of what you discovered at Loose Chippings,

0:29:38 > 0:29:42"I can only say that I'm incapable of such a thing.

0:29:42 > 0:29:45"There's still much to do, so I must say goodbye.

0:29:45 > 0:29:48"Try to be kind to my parents - they're going to have a tough enough

0:29:48 > 0:29:50"time without you gentlemen.

0:29:50 > 0:29:53"Sincerely, Jens Soering."

0:29:53 > 0:29:57Jens had left the University of Virginia, and I saw Klaus collapse.

0:29:57 > 0:29:59He essentially dissolved.

0:29:59 > 0:30:03Because at that point, he realised how terribly serious this was.

0:30:44 > 0:30:47"Dear Mum, Dad and Kai.

0:30:47 > 0:30:50"I'm writing you to tell you that I sincerely love you,

0:30:50 > 0:30:55"and that the pain I'm probably causing you is also causing me great suffering.

0:30:55 > 0:30:59"As you know, I've not been happy at school for a very long time.

0:30:59 > 0:31:04"There's a fundamental and deep difference between me and almost everyone else here."

0:31:04 > 0:31:05His mother was shattered.

0:31:05 > 0:31:09I mean, you would have to think of glass. Just crumbs.

0:31:09 > 0:31:13"I love you and I will be in touch, though probably not soon.

0:31:13 > 0:31:16"The car keys are in the brown business folder in Liz's bedroom."

0:31:16 > 0:31:20Jens said it would become clearer to his father shortly

0:31:20 > 0:31:23why they had left the University of Virginia.

0:31:23 > 0:31:27"There's a chance that certain officers, Reid and Gardner,

0:31:27 > 0:31:32"will interpret my leaving as being connected with the death of Liz's parents.

0:31:32 > 0:31:34"It is for their benefit that this letter is in English.

0:31:34 > 0:31:39"They have a voyeuristic tendency to read other people's personal mail anyway.

0:31:39 > 0:31:44"I can almost certainly guarantee you that I did not do what they may think I did.

0:31:44 > 0:31:49"And Kai, take the Scirocco and the two accounts and find yourself a good college.

0:31:49 > 0:31:52"And for Christ's sake, don't become a dentist."

0:32:33 > 0:32:34His father is a broken man.

0:32:36 > 0:32:38His mother's dead.

0:32:39 > 0:32:43His brother has essentially divorced him.

0:32:43 > 0:32:44He has nothing left.

0:33:29 > 0:33:32According to Scotland Yard, they questioned the 23-year-old

0:33:32 > 0:33:36Haysom girl and 19-year-old Jens Soering today

0:33:36 > 0:33:39at the Richmond Police Station in south-west London.

0:33:39 > 0:33:43The two were arrested for writing about 6,000 in bad cheques.

0:33:43 > 0:33:46Haysom and Soering may also be involved in drug trafficking.

0:33:46 > 0:33:51May the 25th of 1986, I received a telephone call

0:33:51 > 0:33:54from a detective constable, Terry Wright, in London,

0:33:54 > 0:33:59and he asked me if I had any interest in Jens or Elizabeth Haysom.

0:33:59 > 0:34:01And I said, "Sure, I do."

0:34:01 > 0:34:05And the second question he asked me was, he said,

0:34:05 > 0:34:07"Are her parents dead?"

0:34:07 > 0:34:09And I said, "Yes, they are."

0:34:09 > 0:34:13And he said, "Well, let me ask you, were they murdered?"

0:34:13 > 0:34:16And I said, "Yes."

0:34:16 > 0:34:20And he said, "Well, perhaps you might want to fly over to London.

0:34:20 > 0:34:24"I believe we have the murderers locked up here and you may want to come over and talk to them."

0:34:24 > 0:34:27You know, I'm not believing this is happening. I said,

0:34:27 > 0:34:30"You stay right where you are and I will call you back within an hour.

0:34:30 > 0:34:32"Don't move, don't leave the phone, I will call you right back."

0:34:32 > 0:34:34You know, "Who are you again?"

0:34:34 > 0:34:36So I drove up to the courthouse,

0:34:36 > 0:34:39to Commonwealth's Attorney Jim Updike's office.

0:34:39 > 0:34:41And I started telling him, "I just got off the phone

0:34:41 > 0:34:46"and he told me Jens and Elizabeth are in jail in England and we've got to go over there."

0:34:46 > 0:34:52Today, we've presented indictments on both Jens

0:34:52 > 0:34:57and Elizabeth for murder of their parents.

0:34:57 > 0:35:00We landed at Heathrow Airport early Tuesday morning

0:35:00 > 0:35:03and the detective constable and a sergeant met us.

0:35:03 > 0:35:07Within five minutes, they started pulling out the letters.

0:35:07 > 0:35:10So over the next couple of days,

0:35:10 > 0:35:12we interviewed Jens and Elizabeth four or five times.

0:36:02 > 0:36:05"Dear sweetie, I love you so very much.

0:36:05 > 0:36:10"The first chunk is the long promised dirty letter to get you in a good mood.

0:36:10 > 0:36:13"The room is lit only by two candles.

0:36:13 > 0:36:16"And with my best Nazi voice, I slowly say,

0:36:16 > 0:36:18" 'You are going nowhere, my liebchen.

0:36:18 > 0:36:21" 'Tonight, you're my prisoner of love.'

0:36:21 > 0:36:26"We kiss each other deeply now, our tongues playing with each other.

0:36:26 > 0:36:27"I move to your clitoris

0:36:27 > 0:36:30"and you let out a small moan as my tongue massages

0:36:30 > 0:36:33"the flesh between the clitoris and the vagina."

0:36:33 > 0:36:36"Sweetie pie, I can't wait to get you all to myself.

0:36:36 > 0:36:39"I want to sit on your lap and feel your finger.

0:36:39 > 0:36:41"I love you."

0:36:41 > 0:36:44"The nasty in our past could be too much to block out.

0:36:44 > 0:36:47"But you will overcome this experience, because you want a good,

0:36:47 > 0:36:51"strong fuck and a two-hour licking from the guy who loves you.

0:36:52 > 0:36:55"You are in a horrible position, more horrible than mine.

0:36:55 > 0:36:57"Let me clear a couple of things up.

0:36:57 > 0:37:00"Erase all written evidence of Bedford.

0:37:00 > 0:37:03"Cross it out. That's all I have time for, sweetie.

0:37:03 > 0:37:06"Always trust me, always love me."

0:37:07 > 0:37:11"I've been upset, scared, lonely, worried.

0:37:11 > 0:37:13"You won't leave me to take the rap alone.

0:37:13 > 0:37:15"If I go to Germany and get convicted,

0:37:15 > 0:37:19"I will go away for only a few years and your trial will not be

0:37:19 > 0:37:21"a hyped up publicity thing,

0:37:21 > 0:37:24"since the star attraction, me, is missing.

0:37:24 > 0:37:27"Your parole board will give you an early parole,

0:37:27 > 0:37:30"especially when they take my early release into consideration.

0:37:30 > 0:37:35"So in a few years, we will hopefully both be out and together.

0:37:35 > 0:37:38"Trust me and go with the flow.

0:37:38 > 0:37:39"Forever yours, Jens."

0:39:33 > 0:39:38When Sergeant Beever confronted me in the cell with

0:39:38 > 0:39:40Jens's statement,

0:39:40 > 0:39:43he was very careful to tell me

0:39:43 > 0:39:46a couple of details

0:39:46 > 0:39:48about Jens's statement.

0:39:48 > 0:39:52My response was anger that Jens had let me down.

0:39:52 > 0:39:54While I was...

0:39:54 > 0:39:58continuing to cover up for him.

0:39:58 > 0:39:59So you were mad at him,

0:39:59 > 0:40:02so you just decided to put him in it a little bit deeper?

0:40:03 > 0:40:06After they had confessed in London,

0:40:06 > 0:40:09she wrote Jens a letter.

0:40:09 > 0:40:12Elizabeth wrote Jens a letter severing their relationship

0:40:12 > 0:40:14and she said, "Look, I'm going to go back to Virginia.

0:40:14 > 0:40:17"I'm going to admit to my part in my parents' death.

0:40:17 > 0:40:19"I don't love you any more."

0:40:19 > 0:40:21You know, "You're on your own."

0:41:06 > 0:41:08Elizabeth Haysom has told prosecutors

0:41:08 > 0:41:12she would be willing to testify against her former boyfriend,

0:41:12 > 0:41:13Jens Soering.

0:41:13 > 0:41:15Virginia prosecutors are still trying to get Soering back

0:41:15 > 0:41:18to Virginia to face capital murder charges.

0:41:40 > 0:41:41When I came over here,

0:41:41 > 0:41:45I believed that if I was convicted of this murder with Jens,

0:41:45 > 0:41:47that he would also have to be convicted

0:41:47 > 0:41:52and that he would not be able to get a second degree murder conviction.

0:41:52 > 0:41:54And worst of all, I stayed with him.

0:41:54 > 0:41:56And worst of all, I stayed with him willingly.

0:42:05 > 0:42:10What I want you to realise is that Jens acted of his own free will.

0:42:10 > 0:42:12He had a choice.

0:42:12 > 0:42:16He had a choice. He had a full hour drive.

0:42:16 > 0:42:18I never believed he would do that to my parents.

0:42:18 > 0:42:20I still can hardly believe it.

0:42:20 > 0:42:22No matter what I said to him, no matter what I had written to him,

0:42:22 > 0:42:25he had a choice whether he killed my parents or not.

0:42:25 > 0:42:28Welcome to Larry King Live!

0:42:28 > 0:42:32Is Elizabeth Haysom a beautiful and intelligent murderer?

0:42:32 > 0:42:34Or the victim of an obsessive relationship

0:42:34 > 0:42:35with a cold-blooded killer?

0:42:35 > 0:42:39Our guests are Dr Robert Showalter, psychiatrist,

0:42:39 > 0:42:42and Ken Englade, author of the new book, Beyond Reason,

0:42:42 > 0:42:46the story of the shocking murder in a sleepy Virginia town.

0:42:46 > 0:42:48You think what of her?

0:42:48 > 0:42:52She probably developed symptoms that we call

0:42:52 > 0:42:57clinically borderline personality disorder very early in life.

0:42:57 > 0:42:59Elizabeth kept telling us over and over again,

0:42:59 > 0:43:01"I was never allowed to think for myself.

0:43:01 > 0:43:03"I could never do anything for myself."

0:43:03 > 0:43:05She could not even socialise.

0:43:06 > 0:43:08If she were invited to a party,

0:43:08 > 0:43:11she will be escorted to the party by a chauffeur, left off,

0:43:11 > 0:43:13picked up in 30 minutes.

0:43:13 > 0:43:16- This gets bizarrer and bizarrer. - Oh, it's incredible, yeah.

0:43:16 > 0:43:18Long Island, New York, hello?

0:43:18 > 0:43:22Was there sexual intercourse between you and this man

0:43:22 > 0:43:24who had butchered your parents,

0:43:24 > 0:43:29and after you had attended their very own funeral?

0:43:29 > 0:43:34You go to the funeral, you take Jens Soering with you and Christine Kim?

0:43:34 > 0:43:35Yes.

0:43:35 > 0:43:36On the very night of the funeral,

0:43:36 > 0:43:38you and Jens Soering make love, don't you?

0:43:41 > 0:43:44I was in a separate room, in a single bed,

0:43:44 > 0:43:47sharing that room with Christine, my roommate.

0:43:47 > 0:43:51Jens came to me and he said that he needed me

0:43:51 > 0:43:53and that he was lonely, he was scared.

0:43:53 > 0:43:56And I went with him and, up until this time,

0:43:56 > 0:44:00he had been completely and totally impotent.

0:44:00 > 0:44:04And I got into bed with him, and I woke up, sir.

0:44:04 > 0:44:05He was making love to me.

0:44:07 > 0:44:08Making love to you.

0:44:26 > 0:44:27Why did your parents die?

0:44:40 > 0:44:42My parents died...

0:44:44 > 0:44:48..because Jens and I were obsessed with each other.

0:44:49 > 0:44:54And he was...jealous of anything else in my life.

0:44:57 > 0:44:59While all of the testimony is shocking,

0:44:59 > 0:45:02the biggest shock of the day came when Haysom's two brothers,

0:45:02 > 0:45:04Richard and Howard, took the stand.

0:45:04 > 0:45:07She has lied to me in the past.

0:45:08 > 0:45:11And...and, frankly, continues to lie.

0:45:13 > 0:45:16I personally am not satisfied with the explanation

0:45:16 > 0:45:18that her guilty plea provided.

0:45:18 > 0:45:21I think Elizabeth was in the house at the time of the crime.

0:45:25 > 0:45:28We have an obligation to society

0:45:28 > 0:45:32to show to people what the consequences of such a crime are.

0:45:34 > 0:45:37I, therefore, would want to see...

0:45:39 > 0:45:41..the most severest penalty possible.

0:45:41 > 0:45:44I cannot imagine a crime more vile

0:45:44 > 0:45:48than participating in the killing of the very people

0:45:48 > 0:45:52that gave birth to you, that raised you, that cared for you

0:45:52 > 0:45:55when you couldn't care for yourself.

0:46:01 > 0:46:04I have been on the bench for 22 years.

0:46:04 > 0:46:07Most of the time, cases do not bother me too much.

0:46:07 > 0:46:09But I have lost some sleep over this one.

0:46:09 > 0:46:12Many of Elizabeth's accusations against her parents,

0:46:12 > 0:46:15particularly her mother, were the product of fantasy.

0:46:15 > 0:46:19She helped create a fertile field for rumours.

0:46:19 > 0:46:22Elizabeth Haysom has pled guilty to two offences

0:46:22 > 0:46:24which each carry maximum life sentences.

0:46:24 > 0:46:26Miss Haysom,

0:46:26 > 0:46:30I sentence you to 45 years in prison on each charge,

0:46:30 > 0:46:34the sentences to run consecutively - a total of 90 years.

0:47:11 > 0:47:15If my sister had been convicted of capital murder,

0:47:15 > 0:47:18I could have...

0:47:18 > 0:47:21loved her, hugged her and kissed her,

0:47:21 > 0:47:24and walked her to the electric chair if that was what the law called for.

0:48:10 > 0:48:15Jens's father, Klaus, said, "I need to get Jens a lawyer."

0:48:15 > 0:48:18The key lawyer had already been hired by Elizabeth.

0:48:18 > 0:48:23I got the names of three major criminal lawyers in Virginia.

0:48:23 > 0:48:24Each of them, as I recall, said

0:48:24 > 0:48:29about a half a million dollars - US, cash, upfront.

0:48:29 > 0:48:31I never heard further,

0:48:31 > 0:48:36until Klaus called and said that he had hired Richard Neaton,

0:48:36 > 0:48:38who was a Detroit lawyer.

0:48:38 > 0:48:41Mr Neaton had been referred to the Soering family

0:48:41 > 0:48:44by somebody at the consulate.

0:48:44 > 0:48:45I did not know Mr Neaton.

0:48:51 > 0:48:53The defence will call its witness.

0:48:53 > 0:48:54Call Jens Soering.

0:48:57 > 0:48:59Raise your right hand.

0:48:59 > 0:49:02Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony that you shall give

0:49:02 > 0:49:05will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

0:49:05 > 0:49:06I do.

0:49:11 > 0:49:15Prior to today, have you had any opportunity to testify under oath

0:49:15 > 0:49:17about the events of that day?

0:49:17 > 0:49:18No, I haven't.

0:49:18 > 0:49:21I'd like to call your attention to that day.

0:49:21 > 0:49:24Did you go to the home of Derek and Nancy Haysom

0:49:24 > 0:49:26and kill Mr and Mrs Haysom?

0:49:26 > 0:49:28No.

0:49:28 > 0:49:30MURMURING

0:49:31 > 0:49:33On March 30, 1985,

0:49:33 > 0:49:35were you Washington, DC?

0:49:35 > 0:49:37Yes, on a Saturday.

0:49:37 > 0:49:41Elizabeth had basically gotten into debt with a person both of us knew,

0:49:41 > 0:49:44called Jim Farmer, who she'd been buying drugs from at UVA,

0:49:44 > 0:49:49and she told me that Jim Farmer had asked her to pick up a package

0:49:49 > 0:49:51from somebody he knew in Washington,

0:49:51 > 0:49:53and drive back down to Charlottesville.

0:50:06 > 0:50:09Jim Farmer's parents also lived in Lynchburg

0:50:09 > 0:50:12and she told me that the families knew each other socially.

0:50:12 > 0:50:15Her parents were very worried about Elizabeth using drugs,

0:50:15 > 0:50:18because she'd used a lot of drugs in the past.

0:50:26 > 0:50:28At that point, she said the only way I can help her

0:50:28 > 0:50:31would be for me to function as her alibi.

0:50:33 > 0:50:35Hmm.

0:50:35 > 0:50:36Yeah.

0:50:36 > 0:50:38James Farmer.

0:50:39 > 0:50:41There you go, right here.

0:50:41 > 0:50:42He's got a criminal record.

0:50:43 > 0:50:46But it's probably traffic.

0:50:46 > 0:50:47Oh! No.

0:50:49 > 0:50:51Possession of a controlled substance.

0:50:51 > 0:50:52He got jail time, too.

0:50:52 > 0:50:54Did she ask you to do anything specific?

0:50:54 > 0:50:56Well, she asked me...

0:50:58 > 0:51:01You'll have heard already,

0:51:01 > 0:51:04to go and buy two tickets to a film,

0:51:04 > 0:51:06and then meet her at the hotel afterwards.

0:51:25 > 0:51:27Hello, my name is Dave Watson.

0:51:27 > 0:51:30I'm trying to get a hold of Mr James Farmer.

0:51:31 > 0:51:35You say your son is ill, do you know how I can reach him?

0:51:35 > 0:51:38Back in the '80s, I was a police officer up in Northern Virginia.

0:51:40 > 0:51:41Right.

0:51:41 > 0:51:43You were a judge, where, in Bedford?

0:51:44 > 0:51:47What I want to do is talk with him to see what his relationship was

0:51:47 > 0:51:51with this girl, Elizabeth.

0:51:51 > 0:51:54You know what I'm talking about, or...?

0:51:54 > 0:51:56OK.

0:51:56 > 0:52:02Jens Soering testified that Elizabeth was going to meet Jim that night.

0:52:02 > 0:52:05I think that was part of her alibi.

0:52:05 > 0:52:07That... OK.

0:52:08 > 0:52:09All right.

0:52:09 > 0:52:12Is there any way that I'd be able to talk with your son?

0:52:12 > 0:52:14PHONE HANGS UP

0:52:22 > 0:52:26His son did give her a ride to Lynchburg one time.

0:52:26 > 0:52:30He was friends with the Haysoms, the parents.

0:52:30 > 0:52:34We knew that Elizabeth had gotten a ride home with him.

0:52:34 > 0:52:37But on the weekend that they were murdered,

0:52:37 > 0:52:41Jim Farmer's name was never mentioned in any...in any scenario,

0:52:41 > 0:52:44until the trial of Jens Soering in... Five years later.

0:52:45 > 0:52:48So how could we have asked him anything

0:52:48 > 0:52:50if we didn't know it at the time?

0:52:50 > 0:52:53I mean, this is coulda, shoulda, woulda hindsight.

0:52:55 > 0:52:58Jens and Elizabeth rented a car!

0:52:59 > 0:53:02Jim Farmer's name was not on the rental car.

0:53:02 > 0:53:03She never said anything about it.

0:53:03 > 0:53:06He never said to me, Jim, well, that was... I...

0:53:06 > 0:53:07Jim Farmer drove...

0:53:07 > 0:53:09When did...?

0:53:09 > 0:53:11I don't know, I mean...

0:53:11 > 0:53:13After you agreed to do this, did she drive off?

0:53:13 > 0:53:16Well, we got in the car, and she just drove me down to the theatre

0:53:16 > 0:53:17that was playing Witness.

0:53:17 > 0:53:20- How many tickets? - I bought two tickets, as per plan.

0:53:20 > 0:53:24And approximately what time of the afternoon was this?

0:53:24 > 0:53:26About five o'clock.

0:53:26 > 0:53:28After the film was over, what did you do?

0:53:28 > 0:53:30Caught a taxi back to the hotel.

0:53:30 > 0:53:33I cashed a cheque at the front desk of the hotel,

0:53:33 > 0:53:36using the credit card as a guarantee.

0:53:36 > 0:53:37They write the number on the back,

0:53:37 > 0:53:41and that guarantees that the cheque will be paid.

0:53:45 > 0:53:47Did you sign for it?

0:53:47 > 0:53:49Yes, I did, that was the point.

0:53:49 > 0:53:51Did you stay in the room?

0:53:51 > 0:53:53For a while, yes. But not very long.

0:53:53 > 0:53:55Because in case she didn't come back,

0:53:55 > 0:53:58I should then continue with this alibi production business.

0:54:06 > 0:54:09THEY CHANT

0:54:21 > 0:54:25When you got back to the hotel, was she there?

0:54:25 > 0:54:26No, she wasn't.

0:54:26 > 0:54:28It was around two o'clock, I guess.

0:54:28 > 0:54:32She came to the room, knocked, stormed past me into the room.

0:54:32 > 0:54:35She started basically repeating the same things over and over again.

0:54:35 > 0:54:37"I've killed my parents, I've killed my parents."

0:54:37 > 0:54:40You know, "It wasn't me, it was the drugs that made me do it."

0:54:40 > 0:54:42"You've got to help me. If you don't help me, they'll kill me."

0:54:54 > 0:54:55I had to protect her.

0:54:55 > 0:54:57I could not turn her in.

0:54:57 > 0:54:59Were you in love with her then?

0:54:59 > 0:55:00Well, of course.

0:55:00 > 0:55:01And...

0:55:03 > 0:55:04I loved the girl.

0:55:04 > 0:55:09And I almost saw her as a sort of third victim of this...tragedy

0:55:09 > 0:55:11that apparently had happened.

0:55:38 > 0:55:41It is a far, far better thing I do than I have ever done.

0:55:48 > 0:55:51We basically expected the police to arrive within the next few hours.

0:56:09 > 0:56:13And we thought, we have to make a decision now, come up with a plan,

0:56:13 > 0:56:16how I would have done it, and what for me to tell the police

0:56:16 > 0:56:18to make the whole story believable.

0:56:18 > 0:56:20The script of what had happened that day.

0:56:55 > 0:56:58Give the jury an example of how that conversation took place.

0:56:58 > 0:57:02For example, what happened at the house, what was her mother doing?

0:57:23 > 0:57:26Your Honour, I asked the defendant what his position was.

0:57:26 > 0:57:31His position, as far as what happened, and, Your Honour,

0:57:31 > 0:57:33he maintained the position throughout,

0:57:33 > 0:57:37and his position was that he killed Derek and Nancy Haysom.

0:57:37 > 0:57:39And he admitted that.

0:57:39 > 0:57:42And I feel, Your Honour, that that's improper.

0:57:42 > 0:57:46That you cannot take a position earlier in a legal proceeding

0:57:46 > 0:57:48and then later take one that is entirely different.

0:57:48 > 0:57:52It's not proper and it's not honest.

0:57:53 > 0:57:56October 4, 1986.

0:57:56 > 0:58:00You state that there came a point when you became angry.

0:58:01 > 0:58:05That you stood up, Mr Haysom pushed you back into the corner,

0:58:05 > 0:58:06and that you bumped your head?

0:58:06 > 0:58:08That's what I said here, yes.

0:58:08 > 0:58:12That you grabbed a knife, and that you came around behind Mr Haysom?

0:58:12 > 0:58:13That's what I said.

0:58:13 > 0:58:16And that you cut him across the neck, left to right.

0:58:16 > 0:58:18- You stated that? - That's what I said here, yes.

0:58:18 > 0:58:22You know, it's very well-known that people have confessed to crimes

0:58:22 > 0:58:25that they didn't commit.

0:58:25 > 0:58:27He felt he had that diplomatic immunity,

0:58:27 > 0:58:30and she was such a manipulator to that young boy that, yes,

0:58:30 > 0:58:33he would take a rap for her, knowing that, well, if I get caught,

0:58:33 > 0:58:36they'll send me back to Germany, I'll pull a couple of years

0:58:36 > 0:58:40and I'm out of it, and then me and Elizabeth will be back together.

0:58:40 > 0:58:41If you look at those,

0:58:41 > 0:58:45do you recognise them as some correspondence that was obtained

0:58:45 > 0:58:49from a flat in England, April of 1986?

0:58:51 > 0:58:53Love is a form of meditation,

0:58:53 > 0:58:56and the ultimate, quote, weapon against your parents.

0:58:56 > 0:58:59What it says right here is love, our love.

0:58:59 > 0:59:01Elizabeth's love for me and mine for her.

0:59:01 > 0:59:06That was supposed to be the quote, unquote, weapon against her parents.

0:59:06 > 0:59:08This business about her father being cold and unfeeling

0:59:08 > 0:59:12and her mother being very cruel.

0:59:12 > 0:59:16I loved Elizabeth, and I believed that my love for her

0:59:16 > 0:59:18had become more mature, real love.

0:59:18 > 0:59:21That's how I felt about it, anyway.

0:59:21 > 0:59:24The motion hearing will resume tomorrow morning at 9:30,

0:59:24 > 0:59:26when witnesses will include British authorities

0:59:26 > 0:59:28who also questioned Soering in England.

0:59:28 > 0:59:31Judge William Sweeney will then decide whether or not

0:59:31 > 0:59:34incriminating statements made by Soering will be used against him.

0:59:34 > 0:59:37Pam Windsor, News Centre 13, Bedford County.

0:59:40 > 0:59:43- State your name, please, sir? - Kenneth Beever.

0:59:43 > 0:59:44Your profession, please?

0:59:44 > 0:59:47I'm a Detective Inspector at the London Metropolitan Police.

0:59:47 > 0:59:49Very good.

0:59:49 > 0:59:51Look at those.

0:59:52 > 0:59:56The items of correspondence were inside, sir, this diary.

0:59:56 > 0:59:59Where were those items recovered?

0:59:59 > 1:00:01They were recovered at a flat in London.

1:00:01 > 1:00:05And, in fact, Mr Soering took me to the flat.

1:00:05 > 1:00:08On that day, sir, he had a reddish-coloured hair

1:00:08 > 1:00:11and he was wearing a false moustache,

1:00:11 > 1:00:13somewhat similar to yours, sir.

1:00:13 > 1:00:15LAUGHTER

1:00:16 > 1:00:19My name is Terry Wright. I'm a Detective Constable.

1:00:19 > 1:00:20At that particular time

1:00:20 > 1:00:23I was attached to Richmond Police Station in London, England.

1:00:23 > 1:00:26What led you to make the phone calls to Virginia?

1:00:26 > 1:00:28Yes, sir, there was a photocopy of a letter

1:00:28 > 1:00:30which was actually addressed to Officers Reid and Gardner.

1:00:33 > 1:00:34Ooh!

1:00:36 > 1:00:39- Hello?- Gail, David.

1:00:39 > 1:00:42Yes. What have you found out?

1:00:42 > 1:00:45Farmer is deceased.

1:00:46 > 1:00:48Oh, goodness.

1:00:48 > 1:00:49He passed away two weeks ago.

1:00:50 > 1:00:55If he was involved in this thing he carried forever,

1:00:55 > 1:00:59can you believe that no detective went and talked to him?

1:00:59 > 1:01:01Oh, my dear.

1:01:01 > 1:01:03I'll let you look.

1:01:04 > 1:01:06This letter is in handwriting

1:01:06 > 1:01:08that I recognise as belonging to Elizabeth Haysom.

1:01:08 > 1:01:10"My dearest Jens.

1:01:10 > 1:01:12"I think I shall seriously take up black magic.

1:01:12 > 1:01:17"My father has put Vera Lynn on, and her first song was Lili Marlene."

1:01:21 > 1:01:24# Underneath the lantern

1:01:24 > 1:01:26# By the barrack gate. #

1:01:26 > 1:01:28"My mother begins her sixth gin,

1:01:28 > 1:01:31"and then on her ninth gin, Jim Farmer calls.

1:01:31 > 1:01:33"A party, he says,

1:01:33 > 1:01:38"breaking my concentration on the many murder stories I have read.

1:01:38 > 1:01:42"An unshaven homosexual having a drink with my parents."

1:01:46 > 1:01:48"My father calls, like an alarm clock.

1:01:48 > 1:01:52"I must turn him off and put him on snooze.

1:01:52 > 1:01:54"The scene of a feckless dinner party.

1:01:54 > 1:01:57"William Styron, (Sophie's Choice).

1:01:57 > 1:02:00"I'm sitting in the bath with lots of bubbles.

1:02:00 > 1:02:03"It makes me sleepy, and I've drunk lots of beer.

1:02:03 > 1:02:05"The days go slowly.

1:02:05 > 1:02:07"Why don't my parents just lie down and die?

1:02:07 > 1:02:09"I despise them so much."

1:02:15 > 1:02:19"We can either wait until we graduate and then leave them behind,

1:02:19 > 1:02:21"or we can get rid of them soon."

1:02:41 > 1:02:43- And your objective here? - Was to tell the truth.

1:02:43 > 1:02:46And to convince these jurors that you didn't do anything, correct?

1:02:46 > 1:02:48That's the truth, yes.

1:02:48 > 1:02:51You are capable of doing that, right?

1:02:51 > 1:02:52Of telling the truth?

1:02:52 > 1:02:55If you are capable of lying to protect yourself,

1:02:55 > 1:02:59then you are almost certainly capable of lying to these people

1:02:59 > 1:03:01- to avoid these charges. - But that's not what I'm doing.

1:03:01 > 1:03:04Aren't you capable of doing it?

1:03:04 > 1:03:07Theoretically, because in one case I'm lying to protect Elizabeth,

1:03:07 > 1:03:09and here I'm just telling what happened.

1:03:09 > 1:03:12At this point, you can't do anything to Elizabeth any more.

1:03:12 > 1:03:13Jens was very bright.

1:03:13 > 1:03:17He was a Jefferson scholar and an Eccles scholar.

1:03:17 > 1:03:22The incidence of those scholarships being visited upon one person

1:03:22 > 1:03:23is beyond rare.

1:03:23 > 1:03:29She, too, was academically a very talented person.

1:03:29 > 1:03:33And it was the proximity of their IQs

1:03:33 > 1:03:36that seemed to bring them together, at least initially.

1:03:36 > 1:03:40- Is it an intellectual challenge for you?- No, it isn't.

1:03:40 > 1:03:42Is it...? It certainly wouldn't be a challenge for you

1:03:42 > 1:03:46with your intellect to outwit me, would it?

1:03:46 > 1:03:49Well, I think, so far, you've been outwitting me.

1:03:49 > 1:03:52There is a burden that comes with being so bright,

1:03:52 > 1:03:56and there's some folks don't like you very much because you're bright.

1:03:56 > 1:03:59And sometimes bright people don't hide their brightness

1:03:59 > 1:04:01or mask it very well.

1:04:01 > 1:04:05And so, to a certain extent, Jens had...

1:04:06 > 1:04:08..some challenges.

1:04:08 > 1:04:09I just can't understand, sir,

1:04:09 > 1:04:13why you, at times, are sitting up there under these circumstances,

1:04:13 > 1:04:15on trial for murder, laughing.

1:04:15 > 1:04:17I'm not laughing.

1:04:17 > 1:04:19Haven't you laughed, didn't you laugh just a few minutes ago?

1:04:19 > 1:04:22I smiled because you're trying to mislead the jury.

1:04:22 > 1:04:26Well, I would like to discuss that with you a little bit more.

1:04:26 > 1:04:31You have to recast this situation

1:04:31 > 1:04:36in such a way that we appeal to the humanity,

1:04:36 > 1:04:39and that is why I have initiated the pulling together

1:04:39 > 1:04:42of a small group of people to look at this case

1:04:42 > 1:04:46differently from how they have looked at it in the past.

1:04:46 > 1:04:48- Good morning.- Good morning. Hi.

1:04:48 > 1:04:52Good to see you all. Hi, good morning.

1:04:52 > 1:04:53Hi.

1:04:53 > 1:04:56This memo is from Virginia citizens interested in the release

1:04:56 > 1:04:59and repatriation of Jens Soering.

1:04:59 > 1:05:04The Virginia Parole Board considered his parole eight times before today.

1:05:04 > 1:05:07I have known Jens Soering since he was 11 years old.

1:05:07 > 1:05:11I would accept him to live with me right this minute.

1:05:11 > 1:05:13As long as he wants to.

1:05:13 > 1:05:16I've been involved in prison ministry for over 35 years.

1:05:16 > 1:05:21I got a letter from Jens Soering asking for help to get a priest.

1:05:21 > 1:05:23He'd had this crisis in faith.

1:05:23 > 1:05:27His grandmother wrote a letter to him that the honourable thing to do

1:05:27 > 1:05:29would be to commit suicide.

1:05:29 > 1:05:32So we started meeting regularly once a month.

1:05:32 > 1:05:35And have been ever since then.

1:05:35 > 1:05:3927 years in prison, he has absolutely no infractions.

1:05:39 > 1:05:41And, to my knowledge,

1:05:41 > 1:05:45there is no-one in our prison system that has a record like his.

1:05:45 > 1:05:52So that convinced me that he never had the ability

1:05:52 > 1:05:55to act the way those crimes happened.

1:05:55 > 1:05:57It's just not...

1:05:57 > 1:05:59This is not part of his make-up.

1:05:59 > 1:06:03There is absolutely no risk to society. It's in your power...

1:06:03 > 1:06:06I was in the Attorney General's Office for eight years.

1:06:06 > 1:06:12A friend of mine in the office was a friend of Jens's father, Klaus.

1:06:12 > 1:06:16And he said, I have a very interesting case,

1:06:16 > 1:06:18I would like you to try to help this young man,

1:06:18 > 1:06:21who had a very unfair trial.

1:06:22 > 1:06:25So I brought all the files in.

1:06:25 > 1:06:27And I read all the police reports.

1:06:29 > 1:06:32And I looked at everything in the case.

1:06:32 > 1:06:34And I said, "This man is innocent."

1:06:35 > 1:06:38"We've got the wrong man, this man didn't do it."

1:06:41 > 1:06:45- State your name please, ma'am. - Annie Robertson Massie.

1:06:46 > 1:06:50Could you just briefly describe the circumstances that led you

1:06:50 > 1:06:52to go to the victim's house?

1:06:52 > 1:06:55Elizabeth had telephoned from Charlottesville

1:06:55 > 1:06:58that she had not been able to reach her parents,

1:06:58 > 1:07:01and asked if I knew where they were.

1:07:01 > 1:07:04And I told her, no, I had been trying as well.

1:07:04 > 1:07:07- What did you do then? - I telephoned my husband.

1:07:07 > 1:07:09We planned to go directly to the house.

1:07:09 > 1:07:11I opened the door.

1:07:11 > 1:07:13And what did you see?

1:07:13 > 1:07:14I saw Derek, dead.

1:07:16 > 1:07:18Where was he?

1:07:18 > 1:07:20He was lying to the left of the door.

1:07:23 > 1:07:24The body had not been moved.

1:07:26 > 1:07:29So Bill and I drove to Charlottesville

1:07:29 > 1:07:33to tell Elizabeth in person about the deaths of her parents.

1:07:33 > 1:07:36Did you see the defendant while you were there in Charlottesville

1:07:36 > 1:07:38- on that occasion? - Yes, I did.

1:07:38 > 1:07:40The family were gathering.

1:07:40 > 1:07:44And I also invited her roommate, Christine Kim.

1:07:44 > 1:07:47And so we brought the three back.

1:07:49 > 1:07:52Mrs Massie, I'd like to ask you some questions

1:07:52 > 1:07:54of a rather sensitive nature.

1:07:54 > 1:07:58Had Nancy Haysom ever shown you any nude photographs

1:07:58 > 1:07:59of Elizabeth Haysom?

1:07:59 > 1:08:01No, Nancy had not.

1:08:03 > 1:08:07Was there ever an incident at Loose Chippings

1:08:07 > 1:08:10when you complimented Elizabeth Haysom on her physical appearance

1:08:10 > 1:08:13and tweaked one of her breasts?

1:08:13 > 1:08:14Objection, your honour.

1:08:14 > 1:08:16Well, I...

1:08:16 > 1:08:18Have you ever talked to Elizabeth Haysom

1:08:18 > 1:08:21about whether she was there on the night of March the 30th?

1:08:24 > 1:08:25No.

1:08:25 > 1:08:29- No?- No, I asked her once.

1:08:29 > 1:08:30Objection.

1:08:30 > 1:08:32The question has certainly started off wrong.

1:08:32 > 1:08:34I don't know how it would have ended up,

1:08:34 > 1:08:36but based on the way it started off, I sustain.

1:08:36 > 1:08:41Mr Neaton had been a friend of Jens's father, Klaus.

1:08:41 > 1:08:43He was not from Virginia.

1:08:43 > 1:08:46And Virginia has some very...

1:08:46 > 1:08:50peculiar rules about procedure, default rules,

1:08:50 > 1:08:54so that you can lose your opportunity to make a certain argument

1:08:54 > 1:08:57if you don't do it procedurally, exactly the correct way.

1:08:57 > 1:09:00You know, some facts would suggest that Elizabeth Haysom...

1:09:00 > 1:09:03- Objection.- Mr Neaton, that's an improper question.

1:09:03 > 1:09:07I sustain the objection. You're an experienced trial lawyer.

1:09:07 > 1:09:09It's going at it a different way. Sustain.

1:09:12 > 1:09:14With reference to item 11B,

1:09:14 > 1:09:18a hair sample obtained from the bathroom sink.

1:09:19 > 1:09:21Did you have the occasion to compare this

1:09:21 > 1:09:24with the defendant's hair sample?

1:09:24 > 1:09:25Yes, sir, I did.

1:09:25 > 1:09:29The head hair was dissimilar to the submitted head hair sample

1:09:29 > 1:09:31reportedly from Jens Soering.

1:09:36 > 1:09:38- Any further questions?- No, sir.

1:09:38 > 1:09:41The witness may step down. The witness is excused.

1:09:42 > 1:09:45Mr Young, you were submitted fingerprints

1:09:45 > 1:09:47for comparison purposes.

1:09:47 > 1:09:52Item 17LR, which would be the liquor bottles over here.

1:09:52 > 1:09:56Yes, sir, there were 14 fingerprints developed on these bottles.

1:09:56 > 1:09:58Nine fingerprints of Derek Haysom.

1:09:58 > 1:10:03Two that were later identified as whose prints?

1:10:03 > 1:10:04Those were identified with

1:10:04 > 1:10:07the submitted fingerprints of Elizabeth Haysom,

1:10:07 > 1:10:10which were lifted from the Absolut Vodka bottle.

1:10:10 > 1:10:12So, nine of the prints were Derek's,

1:10:12 > 1:10:15two of the prints were Elizabeth Haysom's.

1:10:15 > 1:10:18The other three were not identified

1:10:18 > 1:10:21with any of the submitted fingerprints.

1:10:21 > 1:10:23This interview is taking place in Bedford, Virginia.

1:10:23 > 1:10:25The person being interviewed is Charles Reid.

1:10:25 > 1:10:28- Chuck Reid.- Chuck Reid. Former...

1:10:28 > 1:10:31I was a criminal investigator for the Bedford Sheriff's Office.

1:10:31 > 1:10:33And that was you, Ricky Gardner...

1:10:33 > 1:10:35You see, Ricky had just came in.

1:10:35 > 1:10:37That was the first murder case Ricky had worked,

1:10:37 > 1:10:38let me put it to you that way.

1:10:38 > 1:10:40We took over 1,000 pictures.

1:10:40 > 1:10:42The way the bodies were laying on the floor,

1:10:42 > 1:10:45their heads were pointing in a northerly direction.

1:10:45 > 1:10:47I don't think Elizabeth alone did it, by no means.

1:10:47 > 1:10:51There's no doubt in my mind some other people to be involved.

1:10:51 > 1:10:54TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:

1:11:09 > 1:11:13Still, to this day, after 30 years, there's a question in my mind.

1:11:13 > 1:11:15The physical evidence was not there.

1:11:15 > 1:11:18They were just overwhelming convinced with that sock print

1:11:18 > 1:11:20found in the house, and blood.

1:11:36 > 1:11:42By observing the form of this foot, LR3,

1:11:42 > 1:11:45and Jens Soering's walking impression,

1:11:45 > 1:11:47I could not make an elimination

1:11:47 > 1:11:50that this foot could not have made that impression.

1:11:50 > 1:11:54Well, in the first place, this man was not a sock print

1:11:54 > 1:11:58or a footprint expert - he was a tyre expert.

1:11:58 > 1:12:01And he should never have been allowed to have an opinion.

1:12:01 > 1:12:06If that is the suspect print found at the scene,

1:12:06 > 1:12:09and if this is Jens Soering's footprint,

1:12:09 > 1:12:12and you lay them on top of one another like that

1:12:12 > 1:12:14and it fits like a glove...

1:12:14 > 1:12:18You pull that out, and it matches, and it fits like a glove.

1:12:18 > 1:12:23This was so out of professionalism or any expertise.

1:12:23 > 1:12:26This is senseless. This is not science.

1:12:26 > 1:12:28This is ridiculous.

1:12:28 > 1:12:31Nobody can tell anybody's foot from a...

1:12:31 > 1:12:33A smeared sock print.

1:12:33 > 1:12:35The footprint basically is what,

1:12:35 > 1:12:38besides his statement of admitting to it,

1:12:38 > 1:12:39put him where he's at.

1:12:39 > 1:12:4475% of the people that are in jail today, their mouth put them there.

1:12:44 > 1:12:47It's not the evidence, it's their mouth.

1:12:47 > 1:12:50And that's exactly what put Jens where he's at.

1:12:55 > 1:13:00Mr Gardner, did you have information that the shoe print

1:13:00 > 1:13:03that was left in the Haysom house was consistent

1:13:03 > 1:13:07with a woman's size 8-8.5 shoe?

1:13:07 > 1:13:09I'm not certain, Mr Neaton,

1:13:09 > 1:13:12because I don't know when we got the report back

1:13:12 > 1:13:13from the lab in Richmond.

1:13:13 > 1:13:17Mr Gardner, you were present during Elizabeth Haysom's interviews,

1:13:17 > 1:13:19- is that correct?- Yes, I was.

1:13:19 > 1:13:23And at that interview, did Elizabeth Haysom tell you that her shoe size

1:13:23 > 1:13:26- was a size eight? - Objection, your honour.

1:13:26 > 1:13:31The jury either be excluded or we open up this area entirely.

1:13:31 > 1:13:34Well, I think this is a matter that we need to send the jury out.

1:13:34 > 1:13:38Members of the jury, I'll ask you to go to your room, please.

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1:13:56 > 1:13:59So, let me make sure, from Baker's report,

1:13:59 > 1:14:02somebody said the shoe type was, what, a New Balance?

1:14:02 > 1:14:04Size... Is that correct?

1:14:06 > 1:14:08Yes, sir.

1:14:08 > 1:14:10And that it was a women's what size?

1:14:18 > 1:14:21It was an 8.5 shoe, woman's size.

1:14:21 > 1:14:248.5 in woman's size.

1:14:24 > 1:14:27So that tells me there are other people to look at here.

1:14:27 > 1:14:32Was a profile requested by your department?

1:14:32 > 1:14:36Ed's back. He and another individual came in and did the profile.

1:14:36 > 1:14:39But, see, that wasn't brought up in court.

1:14:39 > 1:14:41It was not.

1:14:41 > 1:14:43Gardner said it didn't happen.

1:14:43 > 1:14:46The existence of a profile

1:14:46 > 1:14:49not provided to the defence?

1:14:49 > 1:14:51That's a pretty high bar.

1:14:51 > 1:14:53Sit down.

1:14:56 > 1:14:58Would you tell the jury your name?

1:14:58 > 1:15:01I'm Jean Bass. I lived on Holcomb Rock Road,

1:15:01 > 1:15:04just beyond the Haysom house.

1:15:04 > 1:15:07Do you recall driving by the Haysom house that night?

1:15:07 > 1:15:09Yes.

1:15:09 > 1:15:12It was either Saturday night, Sunday night or Monday night.

1:15:12 > 1:15:14It was just getting dark.

1:15:14 > 1:15:19We saw every light inside and outside of the house on.

1:15:19 > 1:15:23And we saw cars parked

1:15:23 > 1:15:28on the driveway, all the way up that driveway as far as we could see.

1:15:28 > 1:15:31I would say there were at least five or six cars.

1:15:33 > 1:15:36I just want to make sure, there were cars all the way down the driveway?

1:15:36 > 1:15:38The end of the last car was within two or three feet

1:15:38 > 1:15:40of Holcomb Rock Road.

1:15:40 > 1:15:43- And all the way up the driveway? - Yes, as far as we could see.

1:15:47 > 1:15:50Why would she rent the car in her name,

1:15:50 > 1:15:53but yet let him drive it back over there and kill some people

1:15:53 > 1:15:55when anybody could take a chance

1:15:55 > 1:15:57to see that and recognise that car there that night?

1:15:59 > 1:16:02So who's to say that she didn't rent it and he stayed in DC?

1:16:02 > 1:16:05She comes back in the car, parks the car somewhere else

1:16:05 > 1:16:08and get with some people in another car and goes to the crime scene.

1:16:08 > 1:16:10If another group of people in a different car commit the crime,

1:16:10 > 1:16:12go back and get in the rental car,

1:16:12 > 1:16:15then they can trace the car back to her.

1:16:15 > 1:16:18I'm just saying, hey, you know, anything is possible.

1:16:18 > 1:16:20Can I ask you about Jim Farmer?

1:16:20 > 1:16:23I knew his dad, the judge.

1:16:23 > 1:16:25Farmer was a general district judge in Bedford.

1:16:27 > 1:16:29So, you were in Washington on Saturday.

1:16:29 > 1:16:31And Elizabeth Haysom says to you,

1:16:31 > 1:16:35I've got to take some drugs back to an individual in Charlottesville?

1:16:35 > 1:16:36That's correct.

1:16:36 > 1:16:39She was supposed to pick up drugs in Washington, DC,

1:16:39 > 1:16:42with the person that she told me was her drug dealer, Jim Farmer.

1:16:42 > 1:16:46Why are you so interested in attacking that individual?

1:16:46 > 1:16:48I haven't asked you about him.

1:16:48 > 1:16:52I mean, it's what she said to me.

1:16:52 > 1:16:54Jens, had Elizabeth ever told you

1:16:54 > 1:16:58that she had purchased the 10:15 ticket?

1:16:58 > 1:17:01No. Elizabeth basically got the times confused,

1:17:01 > 1:17:04because she wasn't there when I bought the tickets in DC.

1:17:04 > 1:17:07Just like I got the position of the bodies confused

1:17:07 > 1:17:08because I wasn't in Lynchburg.

1:17:08 > 1:17:12OK. Can you step down? And we're going to have to do some explaining.

1:17:12 > 1:17:15When Elizabeth went to clean up the house with her brothers,

1:17:15 > 1:17:17she wrote me a letter in which she said

1:17:17 > 1:17:20that the house was different from when she'd left it

1:17:20 > 1:17:23and somebody else must have come after her to the house.

1:17:23 > 1:17:27She said the bodies were aligned along the same axis.

1:17:27 > 1:17:29See, this is the living room, right?

1:17:29 > 1:17:30Now, when she said to me in the doorway,

1:17:30 > 1:17:34I naturally assumed that she meant in the doorway like that, right?

1:17:34 > 1:17:36Which is wrong.

1:17:36 > 1:17:39What she meant in the doorway was that Mr Haysom was lying like that,

1:17:39 > 1:17:41blocking the doorway.

1:17:41 > 1:17:44And that's why I changed Mrs Haysom's body from that

1:17:44 > 1:17:46- to that.- OK, we can resume this statement.

1:17:47 > 1:17:49What happened to that letter?

1:17:49 > 1:17:51I threw that away. Because I thought

1:17:51 > 1:17:54this letter made it quite clear that she had killed the Haysoms.

1:17:54 > 1:17:56But it didn't occur to me that somebody else

1:17:56 > 1:17:59was part of a conspiracy to kill her parents.

1:18:15 > 1:18:18Here it is. This is from inside.

1:18:19 > 1:18:21Elizabeth is a very good writer.

1:18:22 > 1:18:25She wrote for this little paper from prison.

1:18:28 > 1:18:31Everyday Issues, by Elizabeth Haysom.

1:18:32 > 1:18:35"When I first arrived at Fluvanna in 1998,

1:18:35 > 1:18:37"I got my head stuck in my four-inch window.

1:18:37 > 1:18:41"My day consists of being told to sit, stand, go faster, go slower,

1:18:41 > 1:18:42"be quieter, be louder,

1:18:42 > 1:18:45"of spending my entire 20-minute lunch breaks

1:18:45 > 1:18:48"being told to tighten up, hurry up, finish up and get up.

1:18:48 > 1:18:51"I live a few feet from Death Row in segregation,

1:18:51 > 1:18:53"which is a reminder of the thin line I walk.

1:18:53 > 1:18:55"My green dog reminds me that dreams

1:18:55 > 1:18:59"and opportunities don't always arrive in quite the way we expect.

1:18:59 > 1:19:02"This is a punishment, it's meant to be tough."

1:19:02 > 1:19:05REPORTER: Two weeks of testimony from numerous witnesses.

1:19:05 > 1:19:07Tomorrow, Elizabeth Haysom will take the stand.

1:19:07 > 1:19:10It will be the first time that Haysom and Jens Soering

1:19:10 > 1:19:12will face each other since both were returned to the US.

1:19:12 > 1:19:14Pam Windsor, News Centre 13, Bedford.

1:19:57 > 1:20:00- Good morning, Miss Haysom. - Good morning, sir.

1:20:00 > 1:20:03If you need a break at any time during the questioning,

1:20:03 > 1:20:06indicate to me and we'll take a break.

1:20:07 > 1:20:09Elizabeth is beautiful.

1:20:11 > 1:20:12She's a beautiful girl.

1:20:14 > 1:20:18Miss Haysom, before Mr Soering left Washington...

1:20:20 > 1:20:23..did you provide him with any information concerning

1:20:23 > 1:20:26- the location of...? - INDISTINCT

1:20:26 > 1:20:28- Yes, I did, sir.- How was that?

1:20:28 > 1:20:31- I drew it on a map. - You drew him a map.

1:20:31 > 1:20:33He's very well-dressed.

1:20:33 > 1:20:37And we'll always remember him by his large glasses.

1:20:37 > 1:20:41After I'd been interviewed by the police the first time,

1:20:41 > 1:20:44Jens and I got together with my roommate, Christine,

1:20:44 > 1:20:48and we created a packet of our alibi.

1:20:50 > 1:20:52Christine wrote the document out.

1:20:52 > 1:20:55We sort of dictated it to her.

1:20:55 > 1:20:57I'm not quite sure why we had her do it.

1:20:57 > 1:21:00Maybe to have a third person involved.

1:21:00 > 1:21:05So, we created this alibi in diary form,

1:21:05 > 1:21:07going from the Friday up until the time

1:21:07 > 1:21:09that we stayed with the Massies.

1:21:09 > 1:21:13And did both you and Jens Soering then dictate this to Christine?

1:21:13 > 1:21:15- Yes, we did.- Christine Kim?

1:21:15 > 1:21:16Yes, that's correct.

1:21:16 > 1:21:19PHONE RINGS

1:21:19 > 1:21:20'This is Global Tel Mate.

1:21:20 > 1:21:24- 'I have a prepaid call from...' - Jens Soering.

1:21:24 > 1:21:27'..an inmate in Buckingham Correctional Centre.

1:21:27 > 1:21:29'Dial zero now.'

1:21:30 > 1:21:33'Your call is being connected.'

1:21:33 > 1:21:35- Good morning.- Good morning. Yes.

1:21:35 > 1:21:38We still have that beer that we're going to have in Germany

1:21:38 > 1:21:39when you get out.

1:21:39 > 1:21:42I'm coming over and you're going to show me around, OK?

1:21:42 > 1:21:45I wanted to say something about the fact that,

1:21:45 > 1:21:50in the trial in 1990, there was this document that was kind of a timeline

1:21:50 > 1:21:53for what happened on that weekend.

1:21:53 > 1:21:56There was some thought that I might have written this document

1:21:56 > 1:21:59and that was clearly not the case.

1:21:59 > 1:22:01- ELIZABETH:- Friday, March 29th.

1:22:01 > 1:22:0516-19, Washington trip, arrived at 7pm.

1:22:06 > 1:22:1119-22, checked into hotel, room service, sex.

1:22:11 > 1:22:15Saturday, 22-24, Stranger In Paradise.

1:22:15 > 1:22:190-2, Rocky Horror Picture Show, late.

1:22:19 > 1:22:212-3, drunken encounter.

1:22:22 > 1:22:25Turn left on Cadys Alley Northwest.

1:22:26 > 1:22:31Monday, 11:30-3am, E called our parents after movie.

1:22:31 > 1:22:33Wednesday, E called Massies.

1:22:33 > 1:22:35Call-back 11:10.

1:22:36 > 1:22:39And then it has "Massie's" written underneath.

1:22:39 > 1:22:44Thank you for reading that. If you can identify the handwriting...

1:22:44 > 1:22:46Yes, this is Christine Kim's handwriting.

1:22:46 > 1:22:49- JENS:- But the prosecution never asked Christine Kim

1:22:49 > 1:22:52to testify at my trial.

1:22:52 > 1:22:54Somebody told me that Christine Kim's

1:22:54 > 1:22:58- some kind of- BLEEP- Professor at- BLEEP- University, maybe.

1:22:58 > 1:23:01Hey, Dave. It's Gail.

1:23:01 > 1:23:02- Hey, Gail.- Yes.

1:23:02 > 1:23:04What have you found out?

1:23:04 > 1:23:06Miss Kim left me a voicemail.

1:23:07 > 1:23:10She said that if I came on the property of the university again,

1:23:10 > 1:23:12she would call the police on me.

1:23:12 > 1:23:14SHE LAUGHS

1:23:15 > 1:23:19I have no idea why she would be reacting that way.

1:23:22 > 1:23:24Miss Haysom,

1:23:24 > 1:23:26I'd like you to read the highlighted portion

1:23:26 > 1:23:28on page three of that letter.

1:23:28 > 1:23:31"I hated my love for you for a long time.

1:23:31 > 1:23:35"I had always believed that I made men fall in love with me

1:23:35 > 1:23:38"so that I could screw them, physically and emotionally,

1:23:38 > 1:23:40"and take out all the hatred I felt for them.

1:23:40 > 1:23:44"I would make a man humiliate himself and, in the end,

1:23:44 > 1:23:47"I would give him the best fuck he's ever likely to get

1:23:47 > 1:23:48"and then walk out."

1:23:50 > 1:23:52That's what you did to Jens, wasn't it?

1:23:54 > 1:23:59No, I don't think that that's what I did to Jens.

1:23:59 > 1:24:01Did you ever tell my client that Mrs Massie

1:24:01 > 1:24:05- had somehow done things to you? - Objection, your honour.

1:24:05 > 1:24:09I apologise, but I have to do it. I feel that it's my duty.

1:24:09 > 1:24:12Did you ever tell Jens Soering

1:24:12 > 1:24:17that your mother's good friend, Mrs Massie, touched you in any way?

1:24:17 > 1:24:21- Yes, she did.- When you ask a question like that,

1:24:21 > 1:24:22you've got to prove it.

1:24:22 > 1:24:25You can't just ask questions and then not back it up with proof.

1:24:25 > 1:24:27And if you don't, I'm going to strike the question

1:24:27 > 1:24:28and I'm going to strike the answer.

1:24:28 > 1:24:31There were rumours that there were...

1:24:31 > 1:24:34I just don't think we ought to talk about the rumours, honey.

1:24:34 > 1:24:37- Well...- I mean, really... I don't think that adds anything to it.

1:24:37 > 1:24:39- None of them were true! - Well, I know that.

1:24:39 > 1:24:42- All kinds of rumours.- Because that might involve other people,

1:24:42 > 1:24:44and I just don't think we ought to go into that.

1:24:47 > 1:24:50You said that your mother slept with you.

1:24:50 > 1:24:52Yes, sir.

1:24:52 > 1:24:53Objection, your honour.

1:24:53 > 1:24:55That's not a relevant question.

1:24:56 > 1:24:57She abused you, right?

1:25:03 > 1:25:04Was that true?

1:25:06 > 1:25:08Yes, sir, it was.

1:25:10 > 1:25:13Well, when you testified at your guilty plea here,

1:25:13 > 1:25:17in October of 1987, you said that was false.

1:25:17 > 1:25:19You were asked, was she a sexual abuser?

1:25:19 > 1:25:22If she didn't, for God's sake, clear her name now.

1:25:22 > 1:25:25And have I said today that she sexually abused me?

1:25:25 > 1:25:28You said yes today, right?

1:25:28 > 1:25:31I said that she abused me. I did not specify that it was sexual.

1:25:34 > 1:25:36Then you didn't lie to us?

1:25:36 > 1:25:37No, I did not.

1:25:45 > 1:25:50It actually is a mitigating circumstance

1:25:50 > 1:25:53if you are abused and you're young

1:25:53 > 1:25:57and who knows how long the abuse has gone on and why it all happened?

1:25:59 > 1:26:00The prosecutor knows.

1:26:02 > 1:26:05It's the key to everything.

1:26:05 > 1:26:07I was there when Updike pushed her.

1:26:07 > 1:26:09That was the nexus,

1:26:09 > 1:26:12that was the crucible in which all of this was cooked.

1:26:12 > 1:26:17I still see him talking with Elizabeth and discounting a motive.

1:26:17 > 1:26:20And he said, "This is the chance to clear your mother's name,"

1:26:20 > 1:26:22and she said... She cleared it.

1:26:22 > 1:26:23Your mother's been butchered.

1:26:23 > 1:26:26- Yes, she has, sir.- You called her a liar and an alcoholic.

1:26:26 > 1:26:29- I did not call her an alcoholic. - Was she a sexual abuser?

1:26:29 > 1:26:30Did she sexually abuse you?

1:26:30 > 1:26:33If she didn't, for God's sake, clear her name now.

1:26:33 > 1:26:35- She did not sexually abuse me. - Thank you.

1:26:38 > 1:26:40You said that to get a deal, right?

1:26:45 > 1:26:48In order to try to get yourself a light sentence.

1:26:55 > 1:27:00- You had the services of an attorney, Mr Rosenfield.- That is correct.

1:27:00 > 1:27:03There are all sorts of promises that get made to prisoners

1:27:03 > 1:27:07that induces them to plead guilty.

1:27:07 > 1:27:10Sometimes a family member will not be prosecuted

1:27:10 > 1:27:12because of a deal worked out.

1:27:12 > 1:27:16That's a favourite one by prosecutors.

1:27:16 > 1:27:18"If you plead guilty, we won't charge your mother."

1:27:19 > 1:27:23And so, Elizabeth Haysom made a deal with the government that,

1:27:23 > 1:27:27if she pled guilty and testified against Jens,

1:27:27 > 1:27:30that the death penalty would be removed

1:27:30 > 1:27:32because neither Elizabeth nor Jens

1:27:32 > 1:27:35wanted to come back to Virginia and face the death penalty.

1:27:37 > 1:27:40There's a certain irony that 27 years after that,

1:27:40 > 1:27:44I was contacted by somebody acting on Jens' behalf

1:27:44 > 1:27:47to get him transferred to Germany

1:27:47 > 1:27:50and I attempted to get that accomplished.

1:27:50 > 1:27:54- 'I have a prepaid call from...' - Jens Soering.

1:27:54 > 1:27:57'..an inmate in Buckingham Correctional Center.

1:27:57 > 1:28:02'Your call is being connected. Thank you for using Global Tel Mate.'

1:28:02 > 1:28:04- Hi, Steve.- Jens, how you doing?

1:28:04 > 1:28:07Oh, peachy(!) And you?

1:28:07 > 1:28:08HE LAUGHS

1:28:08 > 1:28:12I wanted to say something about the fact that the judge in this case,

1:28:12 > 1:28:18Bill Sweeney, was a very close friend of Natalie Haysom's brother,

1:28:18 > 1:28:22Rick Benedict. The Benedicts were a prominent Lynchburg family.

1:28:22 > 1:28:26I think that is a really important component to all of this.

1:28:26 > 1:28:28Back then, it was not common

1:28:28 > 1:28:30to speak about child sexual abuse openly.

1:28:30 > 1:28:34Both of them nude together in the bathtub

1:28:34 > 1:28:36and had sex in the bathroom.

1:28:36 > 1:28:39And the judge knowing Nancy Haysom when he was growing up

1:28:39 > 1:28:42was obviously strong personal motivation.

1:28:42 > 1:28:46These naked pictures was in her teenage years?

1:28:46 > 1:28:47- Late teens.- Late teens.

1:28:47 > 1:28:51And Nancy Haysom had shown those photographs

1:28:51 > 1:28:53around to friends of hers.

1:28:54 > 1:28:58So these photographs were placed under seal

1:28:58 > 1:29:00and basically went into hiding.

1:29:00 > 1:29:03You're still here in Virginia, right?

1:29:03 > 1:29:04- ELIZABETH:- I guess so.

1:29:06 > 1:29:09You came back to plead guilty, right?

1:29:09 > 1:29:11- Yes, I did.- To tell the truth.

1:29:12 > 1:29:14- Right?- To plead guilty.

1:29:16 > 1:29:18That's different than telling the truth?

1:29:20 > 1:29:23You said, on June the 8th, 1986,

1:29:23 > 1:29:25you set up the alibi in the car and he said,

1:29:25 > 1:29:28"Buy a couple of movie tickets," and that was a lie, right?

1:29:28 > 1:29:33Sometime, early in the afternoon, Jens dropped me off at the cinema.

1:29:33 > 1:29:34He left and I went to the movie.

1:29:34 > 1:29:38Miss Haysom, on June 8th, 1986,

1:29:38 > 1:29:41you testified that you didn't go to the movies, right?

1:29:41 > 1:29:43You want to think about that for a minute?

1:29:43 > 1:29:45Make sure you've got it straight?

1:29:45 > 1:29:46What's your shoe size?

1:29:47 > 1:29:488.5-9.

1:29:50 > 1:29:54It is possible, then, that somebody who was involved in the murders

1:29:54 > 1:29:56is still at large.

1:29:56 > 1:29:58There's no question in my mind...

1:29:58 > 1:30:02'You have 60 seconds remaining.'

1:30:02 > 1:30:05I would like to say that I'm looking forward to the end,

1:30:05 > 1:30:08but I'll believe it when I step off the plane

1:30:08 > 1:30:11and experience a German grey sky

1:30:11 > 1:30:13with lots of drizzle and no sunshine.

1:30:13 > 1:30:18- Can't wait. - 'You have ten seconds remaining.'

1:30:18 > 1:30:19I'll call back, all right?

1:30:25 > 1:30:28Did you want him to kill them?

1:30:28 > 1:30:30Yes, I did.

1:30:30 > 1:30:35I was much more concerned that he would not kill them

1:30:35 > 1:30:37- than that he would, because, er...- Why?

1:30:39 > 1:30:44Well, the whole idea of Jens killing anybody is so oddly fantastic.

1:30:44 > 1:30:45What happened next?

1:30:45 > 1:30:48He came back. He said that he had killed my parents.

1:30:48 > 1:30:52He said that my father just wouldn't lie down and die.

1:30:53 > 1:30:56We go back up to the room, Jens took a shower.

1:30:56 > 1:30:59- What did you do?- I was sick.

1:31:00 > 1:31:05It is a very odd feeling to have somebody in the room with you who,

1:31:05 > 1:31:08in a period of 12 hours, killed two people.

1:31:09 > 1:31:11You start having odd thoughts like,

1:31:11 > 1:31:13are they going to roll over and kill you, too?

1:31:13 > 1:31:18He made a joke about how tired he was and that it was exhausting.

1:31:18 > 1:31:20I said, "Well, I guess it is."

1:31:21 > 1:31:24Did you say anything to the police officers

1:31:24 > 1:31:28- about what you've just told the jury?- No, I did not.

1:31:28 > 1:31:29I, erm...

1:31:31 > 1:31:33I lied about some...

1:31:38 > 1:31:40You know, what happened.

1:31:41 > 1:31:44I denied it. I had nothing to do with it.

1:32:07 > 1:32:13He told me to go down to the car and take a bottle of Coca-Cola with me,

1:32:13 > 1:32:17and to clean the blood in the car.

1:32:17 > 1:32:19With...a bottle of Coca-Cola?

1:32:19 > 1:32:23With Coca-Cola, yes, because apparently Coca-Cola eats anything.

1:32:23 > 1:32:28Then I returned back to the room and...

1:32:30 > 1:32:33- ..Jens had gone to bed. - He had gone to bed?- Yes.

1:32:37 > 1:32:41She said Jens came back and he was in a bloody sheet,

1:32:41 > 1:32:44and the car was filled with blood,

1:32:44 > 1:32:46and they went back to the hotel

1:32:46 > 1:32:50and he told her to go down and wash the blood off with Coca-Cola.

1:32:51 > 1:32:56I went to Charlottesville and I luminoled the inside of the car -

1:32:56 > 1:33:01the floor board, the brake pedal, the gas pedal,

1:33:01 > 1:33:03where blood or anything could have been -

1:33:03 > 1:33:05and never got the first hit off of it.

1:33:05 > 1:33:07If it's that much blood,

1:33:07 > 1:33:12why did I not find some in the rental car when I luminoled it?

1:33:12 > 1:33:14State your name, please, ma'am.

1:33:14 > 1:33:16- Sylvia Moore.- Miss Moore, where are you employed?

1:33:16 > 1:33:19Texaco and National Car Rental.

1:33:19 > 1:33:22Pertaining to the rental of a Tibet automobile,

1:33:22 > 1:33:27rented on the 29th of March, returned on the 31st of March,

1:33:27 > 1:33:29how badly did it need cleaned?

1:33:29 > 1:33:31The car didn't need cleaning at all.

1:33:31 > 1:33:35- It didn't need cleaning at all? - No. It was spotless.

1:33:35 > 1:33:38I know they clean the cars up, but I'm going to tell you,

1:33:38 > 1:33:40somebody had to spend some time cleaning it up.

1:33:40 > 1:33:42If there was any blood whatsoever in that car,

1:33:42 > 1:33:44somebody had to do some real cleaning.

1:33:50 > 1:33:52A couple of years ago, a guy in Lynchburg

1:33:52 > 1:33:55said they brought a car to him to clean up

1:33:55 > 1:33:57that had blood in it and all this kind of stuff.

1:33:58 > 1:34:01He's saying that Elizabeth and another individual,

1:34:01 > 1:34:02not Jens Soering,

1:34:02 > 1:34:06brought this car to his shop for them to clean blood out of it.

1:34:16 > 1:34:19I wanted to come and listen, see what you had to say.

1:34:30 > 1:34:32The car was in my parking lot.

1:34:32 > 1:34:35Some college kids had it towed.

1:34:35 > 1:34:37Apparently they was stuck, or whatever.

1:34:37 > 1:34:38Right.

1:34:43 > 1:34:46This is the girl, as far as I'm concerned, was in the shop.

1:34:46 > 1:34:49They had to sit there in front of me for at least 30 minutes.

1:34:49 > 1:34:53The guy who signed, his hair had maybe a highlight in it

1:34:53 > 1:34:55or his hair was funny.

1:34:55 > 1:34:58This is the guy I'm thinking was in the shop.

1:34:59 > 1:35:01Looks like the guy that was in the shop.

1:35:03 > 1:35:05He's got some kind of doo-doo in his hair there.

1:35:05 > 1:35:09Like he had six cans of hairspray in it to make it stand.

1:35:09 > 1:35:11You know, stand out.

1:35:29 > 1:35:30- Dear Mr- BLEEP,

1:35:30 > 1:35:32you may be aware that a witness, Tony Buchanan,

1:35:32 > 1:35:35was shown a picture of you and he recognised you

1:35:35 > 1:35:38as the person who came to pick up a car

1:35:38 > 1:35:43that contained a bloody knife that was placed in the front seat.

1:35:43 > 1:35:46- Jim Farmer, Ned- BLEEP

1:35:46 > 1:35:51and Elizabeth were in the same club at UVA.

1:35:51 > 1:35:53It was called the Gay Club.

1:35:53 > 1:35:57They were friends and they had similar aspects

1:35:57 > 1:35:59to their lives and activities.

1:35:59 > 1:36:03And the fact was that Ned rented out a room

1:36:03 > 1:36:07to Elizabeth and Jens the summer of 1985.

1:36:07 > 1:36:11About how long was it after all this came out

1:36:11 > 1:36:13that they came to your place?

1:36:13 > 1:36:15It was after hunting season.

1:36:15 > 1:36:18Bubba's Towing brought that car in on a weekend.

1:36:18 > 1:36:21He had said that it had come from some college kids.

1:36:21 > 1:36:25The knife was down between the console and the seat.

1:36:25 > 1:36:26Later on that year,

1:36:26 > 1:36:28the police department had a picture in the paper.

1:36:28 > 1:36:31They said, "This is the guy supposed to have did the murder,"

1:36:31 > 1:36:32and all this stuff.

1:36:32 > 1:36:34I said, "This ain't the guy that came by the shop."

1:36:34 > 1:36:38I said, "I think somebody else is involved in this murder."

1:36:38 > 1:36:40So I called, I said,

1:36:40 > 1:36:42"I think somebody else's involved

1:36:42 > 1:36:44"and this is the way to check and see."

1:36:44 > 1:36:48- Right.- He was just trying to brush me off.

1:36:48 > 1:36:51I've never talked to Tony Buchanan about a knife being in a vehicle

1:36:51 > 1:36:54and blood all in the vehicle?

1:36:54 > 1:36:56That doesn't make any sense at all.

1:36:56 > 1:36:57Because I had long distance.

1:36:57 > 1:36:59'He's lying. It didn't happen.'

1:36:59 > 1:37:02I don't know what Buchanan's motivation is.

1:37:02 > 1:37:04I don't know if he's trying to

1:37:04 > 1:37:05get his five minutes of fame or whatever,

1:37:05 > 1:37:07but I certainly don't appreciate him

1:37:07 > 1:37:10trying to interject himself in a homicide.

1:37:10 > 1:37:12Tony Buchanan has no credibility to me.

1:37:12 > 1:37:15I wouldn't know Tony Buchanan if he walked in that door right now.

1:37:15 > 1:37:19This information that you're giving out, if nobody follows up on it,

1:37:19 > 1:37:21we possibly could still have a murder suspect

1:37:21 > 1:37:23running around out here.

1:37:23 > 1:37:25There's always two sides to a story.

1:37:26 > 1:37:28And you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

1:37:28 > 1:37:31I don't see where that's beyond a reasonable doubt.

1:37:36 > 1:37:40- Hi.- Hello.- I'm trying to locate a Ned- BLEEP- that may live next door.

1:37:40 > 1:37:44- He's probably working at the hotel in town.- OK, thank you.

1:37:59 > 1:38:02- I'm trying to contact Ned- BLEEP.

1:38:02 > 1:38:03Is he here, by any chance?

1:38:03 > 1:38:07- Not here today.- It's about a case where two people were killed.

1:38:08 > 1:38:11The people that have been arrested and charged with that

1:38:11 > 1:38:13are in prison for life and everything.

1:38:13 > 1:38:14He won't know what it is about.

1:38:14 > 1:38:17He is obviously not in any trouble whatsoever.

1:38:17 > 1:38:19So, if he could give me a call, if I'm still in the area,

1:38:19 > 1:38:21- I'll stop by, have a beer with him.- OK.

1:38:21 > 1:38:24- Wasn't he a bird-watcher or something?- He's a bird-watcher,

1:38:24 > 1:38:25yes, he is. All right?

1:38:25 > 1:38:28I've been going through this crap all day long, you know?

1:38:28 > 1:38:29All right.

1:38:37 > 1:38:39He responded and he said...

1:38:39 > 1:38:44"Mrs Ball, I have no intention of becoming embroiled in this matter.

1:38:44 > 1:38:46"I know nothing about the murders

1:38:46 > 1:38:49"and I have no opinion about the murders.

1:38:49 > 1:38:52"I have nothing else to say in this matter.

1:38:52 > 1:38:54- "Edward- BLEEP."

1:38:54 > 1:38:56State your name, please, sir.

1:38:56 > 1:38:57Klaus Soering.

1:38:57 > 1:38:59You are the father of the defendant, Jens Soering?

1:38:59 > 1:39:02- Yes.- I'd like to show you some documents.

1:39:07 > 1:39:11These were among Jen's things which I took from his dorm.

1:39:11 > 1:39:13The tickets to a movie, witness.

1:39:13 > 1:39:15Yes. Same things.

1:39:15 > 1:39:17You don't have to repeat it every time.

1:40:03 > 1:40:07Mr Soering, then you began developing different plans

1:40:07 > 1:40:10- as to how you were going to get out of this.- No.

1:40:10 > 1:40:11- You did not?- No.

1:40:13 > 1:40:14"If I go to Germany..."

1:40:16 > 1:40:18It's about three-quarters of the way down.

1:40:18 > 1:40:19"If I go to Germany and get convicted,

1:40:19 > 1:40:23"I will go away for only a few years and your trial in the US will not be

1:40:23 > 1:40:27"a hyped-up emotional publicity thing since the star attraction, me,

1:40:27 > 1:40:28- "is missing."- Thank you.

1:40:28 > 1:40:31That's why... I was hoping to go to Germany, like I said.

1:40:31 > 1:40:35- You're the star attraction, Mr Soering?- Well... Yes, obviously.

1:40:36 > 1:40:38Because you're the one who did it.

1:40:38 > 1:40:41I was the one who SAID I did it, yes.

1:40:41 > 1:40:43Down that same page, writing to Elizabeth,

1:40:43 > 1:40:45"My optimism is well-founded, sweetie.

1:40:45 > 1:40:47"Remember, I'm always the pessimist.

1:40:47 > 1:40:49"Not you. Those yokels don't know what's coming to them."

1:40:49 > 1:40:52- That's right, I wrote that.- And you wrote it right after you'd made

1:40:52 > 1:40:55a reference to me, didn't you? Here's the actual letter.

1:40:55 > 1:40:56Well...

1:40:58 > 1:41:01Mr Updike, the reason why I wrote that is that I was personally

1:41:01 > 1:41:06- surprised that we managed to convince you people.- Shut up.

1:41:08 > 1:41:12- He's my client.- I know that, and I'm not criticising you for saying that.

1:41:12 > 1:41:14I encourage you to say it any time you want.

1:41:14 > 1:41:17So much of the case depends on whether jurors

1:41:17 > 1:41:20believe Jens Soering's story or Elizabeth Haysom.

1:41:20 > 1:41:24Attorneys from both sides will get one final chance to sway the jury

1:41:24 > 1:41:28in closing arguments tomorrow, then the rest will be in their hands.

1:41:28 > 1:41:30Pan Windsor, News Center 13, Bedford.

1:41:32 > 1:41:35I have been asked by the parents of my client

1:41:35 > 1:41:38to read a statement to the court on their behalf.

1:41:38 > 1:41:40They are unable to be here today.

1:41:41 > 1:41:45"We find it very hard to believe that our son could have committed

1:41:45 > 1:41:49"such a violent crime. The killing of anything or anyone

1:41:49 > 1:41:52"has always been so totally against his nature.

1:41:52 > 1:41:56"We know that Jens loved Elizabeth Haysom very much.

1:41:57 > 1:41:59"And he was blind to her obvious storytelling.

1:42:01 > 1:42:05"However, despite our son's deep love for Elizabeth,

1:42:05 > 1:42:09"we do not believe that Jens killed Elizabeth's parents.

1:42:09 > 1:42:11"We also have some questions about the trial.

1:42:13 > 1:42:17"Why did Judge Sweeney not remove himself from Jens's case

1:42:17 > 1:42:20"after it became known that he had been a friend

1:42:20 > 1:42:22"of Mrs Haysom's brother for about 40 years?"

1:42:24 > 1:42:26Thank you.

1:42:26 > 1:42:31I would only say, in my own defence, that the public is my judge.

1:42:31 > 1:42:33A lot of people saw this case.

1:42:33 > 1:42:37If they feel that the trial which I conducted was conducted unfairly

1:42:37 > 1:42:40because of some relationship with one of the parties,

1:42:40 > 1:42:42not a close relationship, then so be it.

1:42:43 > 1:42:47The German Federal Government strongly promotes parole

1:42:47 > 1:42:50and the subsequent deportation of Mr Soering.

1:42:50 > 1:42:54Soering has shown excellent institutional adjustment

1:42:54 > 1:42:58with absolutely no record of institutional infractions.

1:42:58 > 1:43:02Soering has not had a history of violence before his arrest.

1:43:02 > 1:43:06Germany stands ready to take Mr Soering back to our country

1:43:06 > 1:43:09immediately and without any precondition.

1:43:09 > 1:43:11And we know that Virginians believe in mercy

1:43:11 > 1:43:16and we think that the time has come to have mercy with Jens Soering.

1:43:16 > 1:43:17Thank you.

1:43:17 > 1:43:21Members of the jury, you have a commonwealth that's saying

1:43:21 > 1:43:23that Jens Soering did it alone

1:43:23 > 1:43:27and you have a defence that says Elizabeth Haysom did it,

1:43:27 > 1:43:29and more likely with one other accomplice at the scene.

1:43:29 > 1:43:31He doesn't want to give any blood,

1:43:31 > 1:43:32he doesn't want to give any footprints,

1:43:32 > 1:43:34what Jens Soering wants to do is get out of the country!

1:43:34 > 1:43:38On the tickets right here, the time is 10:15pm.

1:43:38 > 1:43:41Elizabeth Haysom, who was supposedly the alibi, said,

1:43:41 > 1:43:43"I definitely bought the last ticket

1:43:43 > 1:43:45"at about four o'clock in the afternoon,"

1:43:45 > 1:43:47and, ladies and gentlemen,

1:43:47 > 1:43:51you can't go to a four o'clock movie at 10:15pm at night.

1:43:51 > 1:43:53That is a reasonable doubt in this case.

1:43:53 > 1:43:56Now, he gets up here and he said,

1:43:56 > 1:43:58"Elizabeth was up there buying the tickets,

1:43:58 > 1:43:59"Elizabeth was doing this..."

1:43:59 > 1:44:04All right, so he hauls it out of the country...

1:44:04 > 1:44:07goes all over Europe and they get caught in England.

1:44:07 > 1:44:08Now, at that point, ladies and gentlemen,

1:44:08 > 1:44:10they write letters to each other again.

1:44:10 > 1:44:13"All along, I made the mistakes."

1:44:13 > 1:44:15He is writing this to Elizabeth Haysom.

1:44:15 > 1:44:21It's cold-blooded, calculated, mean and violent.

1:44:21 > 1:44:25This man can get on this stand, first-degree murder charges,

1:44:25 > 1:44:28talk about this, try to put on a little performance

1:44:28 > 1:44:30and laugh at times.

1:44:30 > 1:44:31Cold.

1:44:31 > 1:44:36This cheque, ladies and gentlemen, that Jens says that he cashed,

1:44:36 > 1:44:40it's clearly cashed at the Marriot in Washington, DC.

1:44:40 > 1:44:41It's his signature on it.

1:44:41 > 1:44:46Elizabeth Haysom does not testify about any cheque being cashed.

1:44:46 > 1:44:49Why? Because she didn't know that it was cashed,

1:44:49 > 1:44:53because she wasn't there when it was cashed, ladies and gentlemen.

1:44:53 > 1:44:57I say to you that there is stronger evidence at the scene of the crime

1:44:57 > 1:45:00that suggests that Elizabeth Haysom was there

1:45:00 > 1:45:04and she was with an accomplice who is still in Bedford County,

1:45:04 > 1:45:06or some place in these United States.

1:45:06 > 1:45:07Cold.

1:45:11 > 1:45:13He needs to be convicted of first-degree murder,

1:45:13 > 1:45:15sentenced to life imprisonment.

1:45:15 > 1:45:17It's the only just punishment.

1:45:17 > 1:45:20The burden of proof is on the Commonwealth.

1:45:20 > 1:45:23Unless they can prove he was there beyond a reasonable doubt,

1:45:23 > 1:45:24you have to acquit.

1:45:24 > 1:45:28I think the fact he was not from that county

1:45:28 > 1:45:30and she was

1:45:30 > 1:45:32did play a role.

1:45:32 > 1:45:35The jury had a choice of saying,

1:45:35 > 1:45:38"Oh, this young girl who grew up right down the street from us

1:45:38 > 1:45:44"killed her parents," or, "This outsider that we don't know did it."

1:45:44 > 1:45:47It very difficult for a jury to...

1:45:48 > 1:45:52..decide that a person actually killed their own parents.

1:45:52 > 1:45:56That's a thought you don't even want to have in your own head.

1:45:59 > 1:46:01Jens Soering, would you stand?

1:46:07 > 1:46:10Jens Soering, do you know of any reason why this court

1:46:10 > 1:46:14should not now pronounce judgment and sentence in your case?

1:46:14 > 1:46:16- Yes, I do.- You may speak.

1:46:18 > 1:46:19I'm innocent.

1:46:23 > 1:46:25In accordance with the jury verdict,

1:46:25 > 1:46:29the court sentences you to life imprisonment

1:46:29 > 1:46:31in each of the two cases.

1:46:31 > 1:46:34The sentences are to run consecutively and not concurrently.

1:46:37 > 1:46:40That's all. The accused is remanded to jail.

1:46:40 > 1:46:43CLAMOUR

1:46:43 > 1:46:46- Do you still say you're innocent? - Anything, Jens?

1:46:46 > 1:46:48I told you to back off of me.

1:46:50 > 1:46:51Get back on the sidewalk.

1:47:59 > 1:48:01She's been turned down for parole 15 times.

1:48:04 > 1:48:05She has mandatory parole in...

1:48:07 > 1:48:09..2032.

1:48:09 > 1:48:11She'll be 68 years old.

1:48:14 > 1:48:17And remember how young they were when they were...

1:48:18 > 1:48:20..together.

1:48:20 > 1:48:21They're both middle-aged now.

1:48:23 > 1:48:25Jens Soering is still clinging to hope

1:48:25 > 1:48:28that he's going to find something, something that will set him free.

1:48:28 > 1:48:31Soering continues to maintain his innocence and tonight,

1:48:31 > 1:48:33there is a new twist to his case.

1:48:33 > 1:48:35A page right out of The Fugitive.

1:48:55 > 1:48:57We ought to kick him out as soon as we safely can.

1:48:57 > 1:49:00In this instance, we could safely do it with a guarantee

1:49:00 > 1:49:02that he wouldn't come back

1:49:02 > 1:49:05and I felt that was sufficient to make a recommendation

1:49:05 > 1:49:07to the Justice Department.

1:49:07 > 1:49:09I went down to visit him in Buckingham County

1:49:09 > 1:49:13after it was announced that Kaine was going to have him deported

1:49:13 > 1:49:14and, of course, he was ecstatic.

1:49:14 > 1:49:19He was just crazy, here he was, he couldn't believe how free he was.

1:49:42 > 1:49:45Because he felt that they were going to pick him up, throw him in a car

1:49:45 > 1:49:47and take him to the airport and deport him.

1:49:47 > 1:49:50And it was the happiest I'd ever seen him.

1:50:00 > 1:50:03Please welcome Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell.

1:50:03 > 1:50:04Thank you.

1:50:29 > 1:50:31Then, of course, everything started to fall apart.

1:50:31 > 1:50:33Good evening, my fellow Republicans.

1:50:53 > 1:50:55When I was trying to have his

1:50:55 > 1:50:57conviction overturned...

1:50:59 > 1:51:02..the Virginia authorities threatened that,

1:51:02 > 1:51:04if the conviction was overturned,

1:51:04 > 1:51:06they would try him with the death penalty.

1:51:06 > 1:51:08That was their threat,

1:51:08 > 1:51:12that if the trial got overturned and we had to try him again,

1:51:12 > 1:51:13all bets were off.

1:51:13 > 1:51:15The system in Virginia...

1:51:17 > 1:51:18..seems broken.

1:51:22 > 1:51:25I will do what I can to make it right.

1:51:28 > 1:51:32"I'm writing these lines Saturday morning at ten.

1:51:32 > 1:51:35"Pretty much certain 2013 is another lost year.

1:51:35 > 1:51:39"All outside rec is cancelled due to extreme fog.

1:51:39 > 1:51:42"That's where I am this first day of 2013.

1:51:42 > 1:51:45"It's just that it's so lonely.

1:51:45 > 1:51:48"26 years, eight months, four days of this crap.

1:51:48 > 1:51:51"And oh, so many more to come.

1:51:51 > 1:51:54"Yes, last night I watched a movie made in 2011

1:51:54 > 1:51:57"about the making of Paul Simon's Graceland.

1:51:57 > 1:51:58"I remember that album.

1:51:58 > 1:52:03"It was a huge hit in 1986, the year I was arrested.

1:52:03 > 1:52:07"The hair, the eyeglasses of that era, the last time I was free.

1:52:07 > 1:52:11"And the music, of course, brought me back to that time.

1:52:11 > 1:52:13"Seeing how Paul Simon aged

1:52:13 > 1:52:16"just opened up inside of me a feeling of vertigo.

1:52:16 > 1:52:20"Joy and happiness were not only possible for me in 1986,

1:52:20 > 1:52:22"they were actually real.

1:52:22 > 1:52:27"I remembered them even though I haven't felt them in 27 years.

1:52:27 > 1:52:30"What I really wanted to write to you about is the next visit.

1:52:30 > 1:52:34"When do you want to come? You last came on 11th December.

1:52:34 > 1:52:36"Do you want to come on the 15th of January?

1:52:37 > 1:52:40"I want to thank you so much for continuing to fight with me.

1:52:41 > 1:52:44"You're doing so much, but also on an emotional level,

1:52:44 > 1:52:47"I'm also glad you're with me.

1:52:47 > 1:52:48"I regret losing my faith.

1:52:48 > 1:52:51"It's not what I wanted to choose.

1:52:51 > 1:52:53"I'm so tired of being alone.

1:52:53 > 1:52:55"Thank you for everything.

1:52:55 > 1:52:58"All the best and thank you again, yours, Jens."

1:53:20 > 1:53:21- You ready?- Yeah.

1:53:25 > 1:53:28# I put a spell on you

1:53:33 > 1:53:37# Because you're mine

1:53:41 > 1:53:44# You better stop the things that you're doing

1:53:49 > 1:53:52# I ain't lyin'

1:53:52 > 1:53:54# No, I ain't lyin'

1:53:57 > 1:53:59# I just can't stand it, babe

1:54:00 > 1:54:03# The way you always put me down

1:54:04 > 1:54:06# I just can't stand it

1:54:08 > 1:54:12# The way you're always runnin' round

1:54:12 > 1:54:14# I put a spell on you

1:54:18 > 1:54:21# Because you're mine

1:54:25 > 1:54:27# I put a spell on you

1:54:31 > 1:54:38# Because you're mine

1:54:38 > 1:54:41# You better stop the things that you do

1:54:41 > 1:54:43# Oh, Lord

1:54:43 > 1:54:46# I know, I know, I know, I know I'm not lyin

1:54:46 > 1:54:49# Yeah, you know I'm not lyin'

1:54:51 > 1:54:53# I just can't stand it, babe

1:54:53 > 1:54:58# No, the way you always runnin' round

1:54:58 > 1:54:59# I just can't stand it

1:54:59 > 1:55:01# Oh, no

1:55:01 > 1:55:04# The way you always put me down

1:55:04 > 1:55:06# I put a spell on you

1:55:09 > 1:55:12# Because, because you're mine

1:55:12 > 1:55:15# You gotta show me one time and I know

1:55:15 > 1:55:16# I know you're mine

1:55:16 > 1:55:19# I put a spell on you

1:55:19 > 1:55:20# I just can't stand it

1:55:20 > 1:55:22# I put a spell

1:55:22 > 1:55:25# I put a spell on you...

1:55:31 > 1:55:33# I put a spell on you. #