Hot and Cold

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0:00:05 > 0:00:07I'm Nigel Slater.

0:00:07 > 0:00:10I enjoy uncomplicated cooking.

0:00:10 > 0:00:15For me, the tastiest dishes are based on the simplest combinations,

0:00:15 > 0:00:16from surf and turf,

0:00:16 > 0:00:19to soft and crisp, to something sweet with something sour.

0:00:22 > 0:00:27Once you start questioning a recipe - the how and why -

0:00:27 > 0:00:31then you can take it on and call it your own.

0:00:31 > 0:00:35So I want to explore some of my all-time favourite dishes. Wow.

0:00:36 > 0:00:39To unravel them and show you why they work so well.

0:00:39 > 0:00:42That is very, very good.

0:00:42 > 0:00:46Today, I want to explore the marriage of hot and cold.

0:00:47 > 0:00:51Great recipes often work for reasons we don't even think about,

0:00:51 > 0:00:55but for me, the marriage of hot and cold is something that can

0:00:55 > 0:00:57turn a great dish into something sublime.

0:00:57 > 0:01:02Contrasting temperatures is the key to so many delicious suppers

0:01:02 > 0:01:04and heavenly desserts.

0:01:04 > 0:01:08I want to show you my favourites, as well as heading to Scotland

0:01:08 > 0:01:12to meet one cook who has breakfast down to a fine art.

0:01:12 > 0:01:15- You've changed my mornings. - Thank you.

0:01:15 > 0:01:17- For the better, I hope! - For the better.

0:01:32 > 0:01:36I remember, years ago on holiday, after a journey on a Greek ferry,

0:01:36 > 0:01:40I got off at the port and there was a van selling bits of grilled lamb

0:01:40 > 0:01:46that were hot and sizzling and he poured over some very cold yoghurt.

0:01:46 > 0:01:49And I've just never forgotten it.

0:01:49 > 0:01:53Today, I want to try and create that same delightful dish.

0:01:53 > 0:01:57It's a simple recipe, but the key is getting that mix

0:01:57 > 0:01:59of hot and cold just right.

0:02:01 > 0:02:04I start with a basic marinade for my lamb.

0:02:04 > 0:02:08Olive oil, black pepper and thyme.

0:02:08 > 0:02:10The thyme doesn't make much difference.

0:02:10 > 0:02:13But it'll make the kitchen smell wonderful as it cooks.

0:02:13 > 0:02:18It's not just about eating, it's about the pleasure of cooking.

0:02:18 > 0:02:22I like to leave the lamb to marinate while I do the rest of the dish.

0:02:28 > 0:02:31I like pickled cabbage with grilled lamb, strange though it sounds.

0:02:31 > 0:02:35But if I haven't got time for pickling

0:02:35 > 0:02:37I finely slice the cabbage

0:02:37 > 0:02:40and cover it with a little white wine vinegar.

0:02:40 > 0:02:42A tiny bit of black pepper in there, too.

0:02:42 > 0:02:46To make my yoghurt dressing as cool and refreshing as I can,

0:02:46 > 0:02:49I'm going to add some grated cucumber.

0:02:51 > 0:02:54Simple though this dish is, I want it to pop in the mouth,

0:02:54 > 0:03:00to zing and the cool pepperiness of mint is the thing to make that happen.

0:03:02 > 0:03:07The grinding of white pepper will add a little heat.

0:03:07 > 0:03:09Then some yoghurt.

0:03:11 > 0:03:13This brings all my ingredients together.

0:03:13 > 0:03:16Use any thick, natural yoghurt.

0:03:16 > 0:03:19Then, this is really important, chill it in the fridge.

0:03:26 > 0:03:28Now for the lamb.

0:03:28 > 0:03:31If you don't have a griddle, a frying pan will work, too.

0:03:33 > 0:03:36The important thing is that it's really hot.

0:03:40 > 0:03:43How you like your lamb cooked is up to you,

0:03:43 > 0:03:45but I like mine caught at the edges on the griddle,

0:03:45 > 0:03:51just that little touch of charred blackness here and there,

0:03:51 > 0:03:52then pink and juicy inside.

0:04:07 > 0:04:10Then, while the chops are still sizzling...

0:04:13 > 0:04:16Some cold yoghurt and cucumber.

0:04:36 > 0:04:40Very hot. It's chillingly cold.

0:04:40 > 0:04:42It's salty, it's refreshing, all at once.

0:04:42 > 0:04:45It's everything I want a mouthful of food to be.

0:04:52 > 0:04:55The flavours of this dish are good enough,

0:04:55 > 0:04:57but it's the contrast of the sizzling lamb

0:04:57 > 0:05:01with the chilled yoghurt dressing that makes it really special,

0:05:01 > 0:05:04and brings back all those fabulous Greek holiday memories.

0:05:15 > 0:05:21I sometimes think my appetite is completely ruled by the seasons...

0:05:21 > 0:05:24What I fancy to eat is usually decided by what's going on outside,

0:05:24 > 0:05:26and today's no exception.

0:05:30 > 0:05:34When the weather's changeable, it can rain at the drop of a hat,

0:05:34 > 0:05:38I love it when I've got something in the fridge that can be warming,

0:05:38 > 0:05:40and that can sit there for a couple of days,

0:05:40 > 0:05:43the sort of thing that's between a soup and a stew.

0:05:43 > 0:05:47This dish is all about how to make a straightforward recipe

0:05:47 > 0:05:50a lot more exciting, with very little effort.

0:05:50 > 0:05:53Perfect for when it's cooling down outside

0:05:53 > 0:05:56and you want something really warming.

0:05:58 > 0:06:02I'm starting with a classic stew base -

0:06:02 > 0:06:05some roughly chopped onion and a stick of celery for depth.

0:06:08 > 0:06:13I usually chuck in a carrot, too, just to add a bit of sweetness.

0:06:13 > 0:06:15I grew carrots in a pot this year.

0:06:15 > 0:06:22I stuck seeds in a big pot with some compost and they did well.

0:06:22 > 0:06:25I'll put a few herbs in - some rosemary, a bit of bay.

0:06:25 > 0:06:32These are herbs for slow cooking. They're tough and they take a long time to cook down.

0:06:32 > 0:06:36A clove of garlic will add interest to the base flavours.

0:06:39 > 0:06:44I don't think there's any time I enjoy cooking more than on a rainy afternoon.

0:06:44 > 0:06:48Just hearing the rainfall and knowing I'm making something

0:06:48 > 0:06:52to warm us all up for supper. It's as good as cooking gets, really.

0:06:55 > 0:06:58The body of my stew comes in the form of some earthy lentils.

0:06:58 > 0:07:03If you're not a fan, other pulses will work just as well.

0:07:03 > 0:07:07And then immediately put some stock in.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10If I haven't got stock, I'm happy to use water.

0:07:18 > 0:07:21Then turn the heat down, put the lid on

0:07:21 > 0:07:24and leave it for about 30 minutes.

0:07:24 > 0:07:28For this stew to be chunky and rustic,

0:07:28 > 0:07:32I'm going to use a couple of squashes.

0:07:32 > 0:07:34A Cinderella Pumpkin and an acorn squash.

0:07:34 > 0:07:37We tend to think of the pumpkin as being...

0:07:38 > 0:07:41..the big beef joint of the vegetable patch -

0:07:41 > 0:07:44that firm flesh you can cook for a long time in the over

0:07:44 > 0:07:48or a casserole, and it doesn't break up.

0:07:52 > 0:07:56A quick seasoning of salt and pepper goes in before some water,

0:07:56 > 0:07:58just enough to cover the squash.

0:07:58 > 0:08:02The stew then needs a good 30 to 40 minutes to heat right through.

0:08:02 > 0:08:07Don't rush this bit. It's where the magic happens.

0:08:17 > 0:08:20What's going on in the pan is all dark and earthy

0:08:20 > 0:08:23and I want to add something bright and fresh to it.

0:08:23 > 0:08:25Just to make the whole thing zing.

0:08:25 > 0:08:29So masses of bright green parsley is just the thing.

0:08:31 > 0:08:34And finally a splash of red wine vinegar.

0:08:37 > 0:08:42That's fine as it is but I want the texture to be more creamy.

0:08:42 > 0:08:46To do that, I take a little out of the pot

0:08:46 > 0:08:49and whizz it up with some extra stock.

0:08:55 > 0:08:57So I've got the soft

0:08:57 > 0:09:00and very hot

0:09:00 > 0:09:02lentils and pumpkin

0:09:02 > 0:09:06and then whilst it's really piping hot,

0:09:06 > 0:09:08I'll stir in some chilled sour cream.

0:09:12 > 0:09:16Just a way of using temperature to turn very humble ingredients

0:09:16 > 0:09:19into something that's really exciting to eat.

0:09:30 > 0:09:34It's great because you get a big bowl of steaming soup

0:09:34 > 0:09:38and every now and again you get a flash of cold from the sour cream.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44Really hot and really cold all at once.

0:09:54 > 0:09:57Yes, this stew is gloriously warming,

0:09:57 > 0:10:00but it's adding that hit of chilled soured cream

0:10:00 > 0:10:05that turns it into something truly magical. Such little effort, too.

0:10:27 > 0:10:29One of my fondest food memories

0:10:29 > 0:10:34is being handed a bowl of my mum's steaming hot porridge.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39If there's one place to unravel the secrets behind the best,

0:10:39 > 0:10:40it's Scotland.

0:10:45 > 0:10:48Over 18 years, I've been training and perfecting

0:10:48 > 0:10:50my skills at making porridge.

0:10:50 > 0:10:54Three ingredients and I have to get it absolutely spot on.

0:10:55 > 0:10:58Ian Bishop is a champion porridge maker.

0:10:58 > 0:11:01He lives in the small Highland village

0:11:01 > 0:11:04that's home to the annual world championship.

0:11:04 > 0:11:07Now, I'm no expert at making porridge,

0:11:07 > 0:11:11so I'll take any chance to pick up a few tips.

0:11:11 > 0:11:12Have a seat, Nigel.

0:11:12 > 0:11:16'Ian's recipe starts by heating one part of medium oatmeal

0:11:16 > 0:11:19'to three parts of water

0:11:19 > 0:11:23'and he stirs with a traditional Scottish utensil, or spurtle.'

0:11:25 > 0:11:27- I always thought you stirred with that end!- No.

0:11:27 > 0:11:30- You see, I even had my spurtle the wrong way round!- Really?!

0:11:30 > 0:11:31I know!

0:11:31 > 0:11:34- I'm sorry.- What sort of cook is that?

0:11:34 > 0:11:40- I'm embarrassed now.- Are you?- Yeah. I've been using a spurtle upside down!- Och, don't let it bother you!

0:11:40 > 0:11:45- It's starting to thicken up. - I can actually see it starting to...

0:11:45 > 0:11:49And when, I think, you put the salt in is very, very important.

0:11:49 > 0:11:53When I see a little, "Blurp," that's it starting to cook.

0:11:53 > 0:11:56And presumably the salt will bring out the flavour of the oats?

0:11:56 > 0:11:58That's right, yeah.

0:11:58 > 0:12:01Now, this is it cooking, so I'm exactly five minutes...

0:12:01 > 0:12:05It's like boiling an egg, it's absolutely to the minute.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07That's right, yeah.

0:12:07 > 0:12:10- So you have a little stir. - Am I going to get this right?

0:12:10 > 0:12:14Yes, of course! You...stir it.

0:12:14 > 0:12:17- Am I stirring the right way?- You must do it in a clockwise direction.

0:12:17 > 0:12:21If I did it anti-clockwise what would happen?

0:12:21 > 0:12:24The wrath of the devil! I can say no more.

0:12:24 > 0:12:26- I've met it.- Mm.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29That is fearsomely hot. Can I pass this to you?

0:12:29 > 0:12:30- Fearsomely hot!- Yeah?

0:12:30 > 0:12:33I could turn it down a little.

0:12:33 > 0:12:36We're ready for this? Here we go.

0:12:41 > 0:12:42(Oh, look at that!)

0:12:49 > 0:12:50There we are.

0:12:53 > 0:12:57'After a sprinkling of cinnamon comes the cold topping...

0:12:57 > 0:12:59'but not just one.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01'Ian adds some honey...

0:13:01 > 0:13:04'a spoonful of homemade blackcurrant jam

0:13:04 > 0:13:06'and one final addition.'

0:13:06 > 0:13:08So, this is cold, cold milk.

0:13:08 > 0:13:11- Cold, cold milk. - With steaming porridge.- Yeah.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13- Thank you.- That's it, OK.

0:13:17 > 0:13:19NIGEL LAUGHS

0:13:19 > 0:13:20IAN LAUGHS HEARTILY

0:13:20 > 0:13:23- Do you like that?- It's like something you've eaten all your life

0:13:23 > 0:13:26- and you discover you've been doing it wrong!- Oh, NO!

0:13:26 > 0:13:29All these years!

0:13:29 > 0:13:34Then you have something and think, "What a waste, all those years I could've been eating it like this."

0:13:34 > 0:13:37It's glorious! Ian, you've changed my mornings!

0:13:37 > 0:13:40- Thank you!- You really... - For the better, I hope?

0:13:40 > 0:13:42- For the better.- Mmm. - What was I doing?!

0:13:42 > 0:13:44What have I been doing?

0:13:44 > 0:13:45IAN LAUGHS

0:13:45 > 0:13:48Glad! Mmm.

0:13:48 > 0:13:52'Sometimes you can't beat a simple thing perfectly made.

0:13:52 > 0:13:55'It's the starting point to most dishes in my kitchen.'

0:13:55 > 0:13:58I'm always interested where recipes come from.

0:13:58 > 0:14:01Where that little bit of inspiration gets you cooking

0:14:01 > 0:14:04and with me it's often tied to things I've eaten a long time ago.

0:14:04 > 0:14:10That lovely thing of getting fish and chips absolutely steaming hot

0:14:10 > 0:14:13and then the moment when I put vinegar on the chips

0:14:13 > 0:14:16and it splashes on to the fish.

0:14:16 > 0:14:20There's that hot fish, hot chips and cold vinegar

0:14:20 > 0:14:22and I love that sensation.

0:14:23 > 0:14:26It's that memory that's inspired this twist

0:14:26 > 0:14:27on the classic combination.

0:14:29 > 0:14:34With my hot fish, I'm going to make a spicy vinaigrette,

0:14:34 > 0:14:36which starts with some fresh lime juice

0:14:36 > 0:14:38and a splash of white wine vinegar.

0:14:40 > 0:14:43I always find limes really hard to squeeze.

0:14:43 > 0:14:47So if you give them a good roll and a squash

0:14:47 > 0:14:51you actually feel them relax and they suddenly feel much softer

0:14:51 > 0:14:55and you get more juice out of them...or at least I think you do.

0:14:57 > 0:15:00I also want to add some lime leaves.

0:15:02 > 0:15:07If you crumble them just before you put them in,

0:15:07 > 0:15:09it just gives that extra hit of lime.

0:15:09 > 0:15:13It's slightly different from the juice and different from the zest.

0:15:13 > 0:15:16If you can't find them it's not the end of the world,

0:15:16 > 0:15:19but I just like what they add to the recipe.

0:15:19 > 0:15:21'To add some kick to this dressing,

0:15:21 > 0:15:24'I'm chopping up some fresh hot chilli.

0:15:24 > 0:15:27'Leave out the seeds if you don't want it too hot.'

0:15:29 > 0:15:32This is one of those dressings that actually pops in the mouth.

0:15:32 > 0:15:36It's got those, all those elements that make something...

0:15:36 > 0:15:38quite exciting to eat.

0:15:38 > 0:15:43It's acidic, and it's hot, and it's sweet, and it's sour, and it's all mixed up.

0:15:43 > 0:15:47'Spring onions will brighten my spicy dressing,

0:15:47 > 0:15:50'and a carrot will add sweetness and crunch.

0:15:50 > 0:15:54'Black and white peppercorns and a few coriander seeds

0:15:54 > 0:15:56'will add subtle warmth,

0:15:56 > 0:15:59'and star anise will give it a hint of aniseed.

0:15:59 > 0:16:04'To balance all that, I just need something sweet.'

0:16:04 > 0:16:06I'm using palm sugar

0:16:06 > 0:16:10because the heart and soul of this recipe...is in Southeast Asia,

0:16:10 > 0:16:13but caster sugar is good too.

0:16:14 > 0:16:18'Add a trickle of water and simmer for five minutes.'

0:16:18 > 0:16:21Just going to have a little taste of this.

0:16:27 > 0:16:31Wow, that's quite... That's quite startling.

0:16:31 > 0:16:33Lime juice and chilli.

0:16:33 > 0:16:37I'm going to temper that with another ingredient.

0:16:37 > 0:16:39'Once my dressing is cool,

0:16:39 > 0:16:43'I can soften the pungent flavours with some olive oil.'

0:16:43 > 0:16:46About five or six tablespoons should be enough.

0:16:48 > 0:16:52I'm going to put that in the fridge to get really cold.

0:16:55 > 0:16:56'Now for the fish.

0:16:56 > 0:17:01'A light dusting of flour will help give it a lovely crisp coating.'

0:17:01 > 0:17:03Just a little bit of salt and pepper there.

0:17:04 > 0:17:08This is red mullet, but any firm white fish will do.

0:17:08 > 0:17:11In fact, you could even do it with mackerel.

0:17:11 > 0:17:16'The fish just needs frying quickly in a little sunflower oil

0:17:16 > 0:17:17'to give a crisp result.'

0:17:20 > 0:17:23And this is really well chilled from the fridge.

0:17:24 > 0:17:27'For a last-minute burst of freshness

0:17:27 > 0:17:29'I'm adding a little grated ginger

0:17:29 > 0:17:31'and some coriander leaves.'

0:17:37 > 0:17:41Now, what's quite important for me about this recipe...

0:17:42 > 0:17:46..is that the fish must be sizzling hot from the pan

0:17:46 > 0:17:48and the dressing really icy cold.

0:17:51 > 0:17:53So get everybody to the table on time.

0:17:55 > 0:17:57Hot fish, cold dressing.

0:18:02 > 0:18:03CRUNCHING

0:18:12 > 0:18:15It's absolutely amazing!

0:18:15 > 0:18:18It's light, and it's crisp, and it's fresh,

0:18:18 > 0:18:20and it's hot and it's cold,

0:18:20 > 0:18:23and there all sorts of things going on, all of which I love.

0:18:32 > 0:18:36'Who'd have thought my local chippy could inspire such a tasty dish?

0:18:36 > 0:18:40'Just make sure everyone's ready to tuck in -

0:18:40 > 0:18:42'timing really is the key.'

0:19:00 > 0:19:03'I'm spending the day in the Scottish Highlands with Ian Bishop.

0:19:03 > 0:19:06'He's brought me to this beautiful loch,

0:19:06 > 0:19:09'which has given me an idea for a simple and delicious treat,

0:19:09 > 0:19:13'using some local Scottish berries and crisp pears.'

0:19:13 > 0:19:18Ian, I've got some pears here...

0:19:19 > 0:19:22..and I'd love them to be really chilled.

0:19:22 > 0:19:24- If I give them to you...- Yeah?

0:19:24 > 0:19:26IAN CHUCKLES

0:19:26 > 0:19:28You can find somewhere cold for those, can't you?

0:19:28 > 0:19:31I think I've got the very place!

0:19:40 > 0:19:42How's that?

0:19:42 > 0:19:44Genius is what it is!

0:19:45 > 0:19:49- I love this stuff.- That's REAL butter!- It's real butter.

0:19:49 > 0:19:51Get that to melt a little bit.

0:19:51 > 0:19:54Now, into that I'm going to put a little bit of heather honey.

0:19:54 > 0:19:56Just want that to melt.

0:19:58 > 0:20:00Now, I've got some blackberries.

0:20:01 > 0:20:04- I have a terrible sweet tooth, you know?- Do you?

0:20:04 > 0:20:07- Hmm.- I often think if I don't have something sweet

0:20:07 > 0:20:10to finish a meal with, that I'll just go on eating and eating.

0:20:10 > 0:20:14- I need that one little thing, just to say, "This is the end!"- Yeah.

0:20:14 > 0:20:19If I cook these berries slowly, then the juices will just leak out

0:20:19 > 0:20:23and make a sort of berry impromptu little sauce,

0:20:23 > 0:20:26with our honey and butter.

0:20:26 > 0:20:30- Just let that bubble a little bit. - That's bubbling away lovely!

0:20:30 > 0:20:33Cos the climate is perfect for berries up here.

0:20:33 > 0:20:36This slightly cooler and slightly moist climate

0:20:36 > 0:20:40- and I can't come up here and not have them.- These are superb,

0:20:40 > 0:20:43they are from a walled garden and it's just...

0:20:43 > 0:20:46People through the valley are waiting...

0:20:47 > 0:20:50..for fruits to be ready!

0:20:50 > 0:20:52I used to wait for my neighbour's apples to be ripe,

0:20:52 > 0:20:56- then I'd climb over the wall... - Did you? HA! I did that!

0:20:56 > 0:20:59'I fancy adding a trickle of booze

0:20:59 > 0:21:02'and I think this local mead could be just the thing.'

0:21:02 > 0:21:05This is a fermented honey wine, isn't it?

0:21:05 > 0:21:08- Wow!- I just wanted some sort of alcohol in there

0:21:08 > 0:21:10and it could be a bit of whisky.

0:21:10 > 0:21:14That looks so appetising, it's just bubbling away...

0:21:14 > 0:21:17- This is looking ready.- Mmm.

0:21:17 > 0:21:19Smells delish!

0:21:19 > 0:21:21Well, do you think our pears are cold enough?

0:21:21 > 0:21:25Well, I'll go and get them and see, eh?

0:21:25 > 0:21:26I would think so.

0:21:27 > 0:21:30It's only because you've got the waders on!

0:21:30 > 0:21:34Well, there's no fish scouting about in there.

0:21:34 > 0:21:37There will be! That's got a little chill to it.

0:21:40 > 0:21:44It's funny how things crisp up when you really chill them.

0:21:44 > 0:21:45It's like when I'm making a salad

0:21:45 > 0:21:47and if I put the leaves into iced water,

0:21:47 > 0:21:50and actually put some ice cubes in the water,

0:21:50 > 0:21:53that the leaves really crisp up. It's the same with fruit.

0:21:53 > 0:21:55I'm beginning to get your idea about this hot and cold.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58I never thought of it before with the porridge, you know?

0:21:58 > 0:22:05Erm, not with the same emphasis as you're putting on it, but...

0:22:05 > 0:22:08- Cor, that looks great! - It's good, isn't it?

0:22:08 > 0:22:12Yeah! Anybody can do this on a camp fire, or something, can't they?

0:22:12 > 0:22:15It's so simple! I can't wait.

0:22:15 > 0:22:18- I'll let you go first, since you've...- YOU go first!

0:22:18 > 0:22:21No, well... I'll race you!

0:22:21 > 0:22:22THEY LAUGH

0:22:24 > 0:22:26Oh, boy!

0:22:33 > 0:22:34Ahh!

0:22:36 > 0:22:38Where else would you want to be on a day like this

0:22:38 > 0:22:41- and eating a plate like this? - I wouldn't...

0:22:41 > 0:22:44I can't think... I mean, this is made for pudding!

0:22:44 > 0:22:46I'm just happy to be here.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49- The pudding loch!- The pudding loch! Exactly.

0:22:50 > 0:22:53'Right food, right place, right time.

0:22:53 > 0:22:56'It's the best recipe of all.

0:22:56 > 0:22:59'Have a look at our website for your own inspiration.'

0:23:05 > 0:23:09I think of all the puddings I love, and I love most of them,

0:23:09 > 0:23:13apple pie and ice cream comes really high on the list.

0:23:13 > 0:23:15If I get it right...

0:23:16 > 0:23:21..I can put the cold ice cream on top of the oven-fresh pie

0:23:21 > 0:23:23at exactly the right moment,

0:23:23 > 0:23:27so the ice cream melts down over the pastry and into the apples.

0:23:27 > 0:23:30'Today, I don't fancy making pastry though,

0:23:30 > 0:23:33'so I'm going to try something a bit different.

0:23:33 > 0:23:34'I want to make a simple ice cream

0:23:34 > 0:23:38'to have with some sizzling caramelised apples.

0:23:38 > 0:23:41'I'm starting with the ice cream.

0:23:42 > 0:23:46'Cooking apples are best as they tend to have a sharper flavour

0:23:46 > 0:23:49'and just a bit more clout!'

0:23:51 > 0:23:54It's always a joy slicing apples into a pan,

0:23:54 > 0:23:55I can remember my mother doing it.

0:23:55 > 0:23:58It's one of those peaceful kitchen jobs.

0:24:01 > 0:24:03It's really a joy to do.

0:24:04 > 0:24:07'A fresh lemon will help keep the apple from browning.'

0:24:11 > 0:24:15'A good sprinkling of sugar will bring out the flavour of the fruit.'

0:24:15 > 0:24:18'Stew for a few minutes until they soften.'

0:24:21 > 0:24:23You can take it right down to a puree if you want

0:24:23 > 0:24:28but I like a few lumps in it to get a bit of texture in my ice cream.

0:24:28 > 0:24:34'They need to be cool before I add the final ingredient, custard.'

0:24:34 > 0:24:37Of course you can make your own custard from scratch

0:24:37 > 0:24:42but sometimes I haven't got time and I use the ready-made stuff.

0:24:46 > 0:24:51So, you just fold the custard into the apple.

0:24:57 > 0:25:01I always try and remember to put the dish in the freezer first

0:25:01 > 0:25:04so that it's really cold when you put the ice cream in.

0:25:04 > 0:25:06It just gives it a head start.

0:25:08 > 0:25:10'Making your own ice cream really is so easy.

0:25:10 > 0:25:14'All this needs now is a good couple of hours in the freezer.

0:25:14 > 0:25:17'Just give it a stir halfway through.'

0:25:17 > 0:25:20You're really just getting air into it. That's all you're doing.

0:25:20 > 0:25:23It does make a difference to the finished texture.

0:25:30 > 0:25:34'Now I want something to go with my home-made ice cream

0:25:34 > 0:25:37'so I'm going to caramelise a few apples.

0:25:37 > 0:25:40I'm using a dessert apple for this.

0:25:40 > 0:25:43I think it's quite nice to choose another variety.

0:25:43 > 0:25:46'Caramelising is just a case of frying the apples in butter

0:25:46 > 0:25:50'over a moderate heat, until they're golden and glossy.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53'It should only take a few minutes.'

0:25:53 > 0:25:55The apples are really soft right the way through

0:25:55 > 0:25:59but I want them to be really sticky and sugary

0:25:59 > 0:26:02so I'm just going to put a bit more butter in and then some sugar.

0:26:04 > 0:26:08What I'm after is that moment

0:26:08 > 0:26:12when you've got stingy hot apples

0:26:12 > 0:26:15and freezing cold ice cream in your mouth at once.

0:26:15 > 0:26:18And there is nothing that gets hotter than melting sugar.

0:26:20 > 0:26:23'Once the apple and sugar have browned,

0:26:23 > 0:26:25'my apples are ready to serve.'

0:26:29 > 0:26:32On top of those...

0:26:32 > 0:26:35freezing ice cream.

0:26:36 > 0:26:39This is the ideal texture for ice cream.

0:26:39 > 0:26:41It's not rock hard and it's not slushy.

0:26:41 > 0:26:43It's just between the two.

0:26:45 > 0:26:49And then, so that I get what I'm after,

0:26:49 > 0:26:52which is very hot apples and very cold ice cream,

0:26:52 > 0:26:57I slip some more apples and a little bit of the caramel sauce

0:26:57 > 0:26:59on the very top.

0:27:11 > 0:27:15This dish isn't just about flavours and textures.

0:27:15 > 0:27:17It's about timing.

0:27:17 > 0:27:21It's that moment when you've got the almost-burning-hot apple

0:27:21 > 0:27:25and the freezing cold ice cream in your mouth at the same time.

0:27:25 > 0:27:28and that's when it's sensational and when it really, really works.

0:27:35 > 0:27:39'This cheeky twist on the good old-fashioned apple pie and ice cream

0:27:39 > 0:27:43'is just as tasty, but without the faff of making the pastry.

0:27:43 > 0:27:46'A perfect treat to round off any supper.'

0:28:01 > 0:28:04'All these recipes combine fabulous flavours and textures,

0:28:04 > 0:28:06'but it's their contrasting temperatures

0:28:06 > 0:28:09'that makes them a real thrill for the taste buds.'

0:28:11 > 0:28:14'Next time I want to explore a different pairing in the kitchen.

0:28:14 > 0:28:18'The marriage of something weird with something wonderful.'

0:28:18 > 0:28:21And I'm expecting one thing and I'm getting another.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24'It might not be an obvious recipe for success,

0:28:24 > 0:28:29'but sometimes the most unlikely combinations are the best.'

0:28:29 > 0:28:31It really is gorgeous.

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