Episode 2

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0:00:02 > 0:00:06'People in hospital are already at their most vulnerable

0:00:06 > 0:00:10'without having to be subjected to unhealthy and unappetising food.'

0:00:10 > 0:00:12People just want good food.

0:00:13 > 0:00:19'I believe that good, nutritious food not only lifts the spirits of patients confined to hospital wards,

0:00:19 > 0:00:26'but it can be a medicine as well. Patients in our hospitals are not getting the food that they deserve.'

0:00:26 > 0:00:29- The food's awful. - We thought it was a joke at first.

0:00:29 > 0:00:31- Tasteless.- Atrocious.- Quite bland.

0:00:31 > 0:00:37'In a recent survey, a third of people asked described the food as unacceptable

0:00:37 > 0:00:40'and nearly a quarter of patients wouldn't eat it,

0:00:40 > 0:00:44'instead relying on food brought in by family and friends.

0:00:44 > 0:00:49'£50 million has been spent over a decade trying to improve the quality of our hospital food,

0:00:49 > 0:00:52'but there's been little sign of it working.

0:00:52 > 0:00:58'I took up the challenge to bring healthy, tasty food to the wards of Scarborough General Hospital

0:00:58 > 0:01:04'and patients who had been turning away their food before are now looking forward to their mealtime.'

0:01:04 > 0:01:09- The food's excellent.- No complaints. - And the soups now are brilliant.

0:01:09 > 0:01:11'So I proved it can be done.

0:01:12 > 0:01:18'And now the challenge is trying to bring about change across the rest of the UK.'

0:01:18 > 0:01:23I'm not trying to create a Michelin-star meal. I'm trying to create good, simple food.

0:01:28 > 0:01:35'After the success I achieved at Scarborough, I'm determined to take my message for better hospital food

0:01:35 > 0:01:40'to more than just one place and roll out change on a wider scale across the country.'

0:01:40 > 0:01:46I think, looking at it, we can still make a massive difference to the bigger picture.

0:01:46 > 0:01:49Each hospital is very different.

0:01:49 > 0:01:54The NHS can't be changed sat in Westminster saying we need to do this, this and this.

0:01:54 > 0:01:58You've got to get off your backside and do something about it.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01It all starts now and I'd better get started.

0:02:03 > 0:02:08'The first hospital giving me access to its kitchens is the Birmingham Royal Orthopaedic,

0:02:08 > 0:02:13'but as soon as I got there, I identified some major problems, starting with waste.'

0:02:13 > 0:02:16- It's going to go in the bin?- Yeah.

0:02:16 > 0:02:18I cannot tell you how annoyed I am!

0:02:18 > 0:02:21'In the kitchen I'm working with chefs Gaz...'

0:02:21 > 0:02:26That's 11 grand I've saved. I've been here two minutes.

0:02:27 > 0:02:29He tore me apart there.

0:02:29 > 0:02:33- 'Vicky...'- I'm not wasting a pea!

0:02:33 > 0:02:38- 'And head chef Tracy.' - Do you want me to do some eggs? - If you wouldn't mind.

0:02:38 > 0:02:42'In charge of the department is Head of Facilities Emma.'

0:02:42 > 0:02:46There's more gone in there. This is just what I could get hold of.

0:02:49 > 0:02:52'There's so much to do in this one hospital alone

0:02:52 > 0:02:58'that only now has the enormity of my ambition to improve things nationwide really hit me.

0:02:58 > 0:03:03'Every hospital can have its own individual challenges which all need time to address.

0:03:03 > 0:03:09'If I'm going to take on NHS food across the board, I need help, so I'm calling in some back-up.

0:03:09 > 0:03:13'I've contacted ten world-renowned chefs and invited them to my house.

0:03:13 > 0:03:18'They have no idea that I'm going to ask them to give up their time for free

0:03:18 > 0:03:21'to work with a hospital local to them.

0:03:21 > 0:03:27'If they don't agree, my vision for better hospital food is over before it even begins.

0:03:32 > 0:03:38'While I wait to hear if the chefs will come, I'm in Birmingham where the stakes couldn't be higher.

0:03:38 > 0:03:44'The catering department is currently heading towards a £27,000 overspend

0:03:44 > 0:03:49'and unless things improve, the management are considering bringing in prepared meals,

0:03:49 > 0:03:51'what's usually called "cook-chill".

0:03:51 > 0:03:57'If they do, the kitchen staff face losing their jobs, so I want to see if the team has listened

0:03:57 > 0:04:02'to what I told them about how crucial it is to follow proper recipes.

0:04:02 > 0:04:05'Last time I was here, Gaz and I almost fell out over it.'

0:04:05 > 0:04:09- How long do you cook that for? - About 40 minutes.- "About"?

0:04:09 > 0:04:12Why is it not in here?

0:04:12 > 0:04:16I don't care what you say. From now on, everything is in this book.

0:04:16 > 0:04:19- Do you want my opinion?- Yeah. - Put it in the book.

0:04:19 > 0:04:25'One of the first things I'm looking out for is if they've now started to follow the recipes in the book.'

0:04:25 > 0:04:28What I've got is I've done a little test.

0:04:28 > 0:04:31Yesterday they had a recipe book.

0:04:32 > 0:04:34I've taped it up.

0:04:36 > 0:04:41And as yet, at ten past eight, it's not been opened.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44'The team still doesn't understand

0:04:44 > 0:04:49'why recipes are so important or the consequences of cooking without them.

0:04:49 > 0:04:54'It makes it impossible to know what quantities of food they're cooking with,

0:04:54 > 0:04:56'so they've no idea of how much a meal costs.

0:04:56 > 0:05:01'Head chef Tracy can't tightly control her stock which is adding to her overspend,

0:05:01 > 0:05:04'plus there's no consistent standard,

0:05:04 > 0:05:09'contributing to the high volume of waste coming back from the wards.'

0:05:09 > 0:05:12Can we gather everybody together around this spot?

0:05:12 > 0:05:17'I need to make sure that this message is really getting through to Tracy and her team.'

0:05:19 > 0:05:22I taped that up this morning when I arrived.

0:05:23 > 0:05:25You taped it up?

0:05:27 > 0:05:30I don't think it's been opened.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32LAUGHTER

0:05:32 > 0:05:33Oh!

0:05:33 > 0:05:35You haven't opened it.

0:05:35 > 0:05:37- I haven't.- You haven't opened it.

0:05:37 > 0:05:41So what's the point of it then? Why don't we just throw it in the bin?

0:05:41 > 0:05:44I'll go home and you can carry on as normal.

0:05:45 > 0:05:50These are the blatant facts. I'm going to make it black and white with you.

0:05:50 > 0:05:55I've been upstairs. If this doesn't work, you're all out of a job. I asked you for a recipe book.

0:05:55 > 0:06:01What you've done is create recipes you've photocopied out of cookbooks. You don't even use it.

0:06:01 > 0:06:07There's no point. Those scales haven't been used. You're making stuff without thinking about it.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10Your main concern is waste here

0:06:10 > 0:06:13because we're wasting bucketloads of money.

0:06:13 > 0:06:17That is the reason why this department will get shut down.

0:06:17 > 0:06:20We've put these recipes in here.

0:06:20 > 0:06:26He hasn't or Vicky hasn't had to look at it because they know this recipe because it's their recipe.

0:06:27 > 0:06:31Tell me the recipe for 100 portions of cottage pie.

0:06:32 > 0:06:33Go on.

0:06:33 > 0:06:39You know it. Tell me the recipe for 100 portions of cottage pie off the top of your head.

0:06:47 > 0:06:49But I don't...

0:06:49 > 0:06:52- I want quantities. - I don't know the quantities.

0:06:52 > 0:06:55I don't know the quantities. I don't do pricing.

0:06:55 > 0:06:59I don't understand when you have a problem with quantities...

0:06:59 > 0:07:04The reason why I asked for recipes is that recipes have quantities in them.

0:07:06 > 0:07:10I don't know the quantities. I'm not going to write it down.

0:07:10 > 0:07:13- I just use what...- You make it up?

0:07:13 > 0:07:15Yeah, we use what we've got.

0:07:15 > 0:07:17I'll be honest. I don't know.

0:07:18 > 0:07:21But why is this such a problem?

0:07:21 > 0:07:24Is this like going back to basics?

0:07:24 > 0:07:29- We're just used to the way we do it and I will do that now.- I know you're used to the way you do it.

0:07:29 > 0:07:32I will do it now. To prove your point, I will...

0:07:32 > 0:07:34I'm not criticising anybody here.

0:07:34 > 0:07:38If the head office have a go at me about wastage,

0:07:38 > 0:07:41at the moment, you are 100% to blame.

0:07:42 > 0:07:44The buck stops with you guys.

0:07:44 > 0:07:50- From now on, this is the Bible. Use it.- Yes, chef.- Yes, chef.

0:07:50 > 0:07:54'I hate having to get tough, but if I don't, nothing will change

0:07:54 > 0:07:56'and all the chefs could lose their jobs.'

0:07:56 > 0:07:58Don't worry. It'll be fine.

0:07:58 > 0:08:02- All right?- I know. It's just a bit of a shock.

0:08:02 > 0:08:06It is a bit of a shock, but we haven't got time. You know what I mean?

0:08:07 > 0:08:11I've been told by upstairs we haven't got time.

0:08:11 > 0:08:14So we're going to start from a clean slate.

0:08:14 > 0:08:18- Now this is what we do.- Yeah. - All right?

0:08:18 > 0:08:20- I'll be all right now.- Is this good?

0:08:20 > 0:08:23I hope so after all that!

0:08:23 > 0:08:28- Go on.- I've got to get a glass of water.- Go and get a glass of water.

0:08:33 > 0:08:37'I don't like seeing anyone upset, but I'm massively concerned

0:08:37 > 0:08:39'that if no recipe exists,

0:08:39 > 0:08:46'how can anyone be 100% confident that meals are suitable for patients with special requirements?

0:08:46 > 0:08:51'So I'm meeting the hospital dietician Susan and senior lead nurse for nutrition Jodie

0:08:51 > 0:08:54'to see how they deal with it.'

0:08:54 > 0:09:00I'm interested in these recipes. Don't tell me you've got recipes cos I haven't got any in the kitchen.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03- No, we...- So how can you do your job?

0:09:03 > 0:09:06- Yeah, we end up estimating. - You guess?

0:09:06 > 0:09:11Yeah, we have to guess. Different chefs cook things in different ways.

0:09:11 > 0:09:16They'll add different ingredients, so we average out what we think is in a portion,

0:09:16 > 0:09:22unlike other hospitals where I've worked where you've had exact calorie and protein breakdown per portion.

0:09:22 > 0:09:27Because you don't exactly know what's in the food, you're using supplements?

0:09:27 > 0:09:32Yes, we do use, I would say, probably more nutritional supplements than we need to use.

0:09:32 > 0:09:36I would say that again it's probably a common problem across the NHS,

0:09:36 > 0:09:40but we're very keen to try and get it, so it's food first.

0:09:40 > 0:09:43- I've got my work cut out, haven't I?- You do, yes.

0:09:43 > 0:09:46'This situation is worse than I was expecting.

0:09:46 > 0:09:51'I can't believe the dieticians have to guess the nutritional content of the meals

0:09:51 > 0:09:57'and because of that, have to rely on food supplements to balance out the patients' diet. I'm shocked.

0:09:57 > 0:10:02'But hopefully, this will change when I bring in a new menu with fresh soups,

0:10:02 > 0:10:06'but before I can do that, there's another basic issue to tackle.

0:10:06 > 0:10:12'I know from talking to the patients their main complaint is they don't get to choose the dish they want

0:10:12 > 0:10:14'as there's no ordering system.

0:10:14 > 0:10:19'I'm convinced this is why 40 to 50% of everything the kitchen cooks

0:10:19 > 0:10:23'comes back down from the wards untouched and goes into the bin.

0:10:23 > 0:10:29'I need to try and put an end to this now and the key person who can help is Head of Facilities Emma.'

0:10:29 > 0:10:33I need somebody like yourself to speak to the management and say,

0:10:33 > 0:10:39"From now on, if we haven't got the order from the ward at eight o'clock, nobody gets nothing.

0:10:39 > 0:10:41"They get nothing."

0:10:41 > 0:10:47OK. Yes, I'm quite happy to go out there and say, "Right, we need to know X, Y and Z."

0:10:47 > 0:10:51But it's also... Everything is a pure balancing act.

0:10:51 > 0:10:58It's quite simple. You're not an A&E ward with people coming in all over the place. I roughly...

0:10:58 > 0:11:03I would hazard a guess here that you will know exactly how many patients, bar ten,

0:11:03 > 0:11:06that you've got next Wednesday in here

0:11:06 > 0:11:09because it'll all have been pre-booked beforehand.

0:11:09 > 0:11:15At eight o'clock when the kitchen staff come in, we want to know how many people we're cooking for.

0:11:15 > 0:11:18It's basic. It's not complicated.

0:11:18 > 0:11:23'It's crucial that Emma gets the wards to understand the importance of getting the patient numbers

0:11:23 > 0:11:26'to the kitchen by 8am.

0:11:26 > 0:11:31'It won't be an easy task, but the same is true with a lot of the issues at this hospital

0:11:31 > 0:11:33'and that's the problem.

0:11:33 > 0:11:38'I need to dedicate so much of my time working with the team at Birmingham

0:11:38 > 0:11:42'that if I want to change the food served in hospitals elsewhere,

0:11:42 > 0:11:46'I'll have to call in some help, so I've come up with a plan.

0:11:46 > 0:11:50'I've invited a group of successful, well-known chefs to come to my home.'

0:11:50 > 0:11:53What do you cook a load of chefs?

0:11:53 > 0:11:57Nothing. You don't. You let them do the cooking.

0:11:57 > 0:12:03'All they know is I have a project to discuss with them, but I'm hoping to persuade them to come on board

0:12:03 > 0:12:07'to help me work with other hospitals, so we can implement real change across the UK.

0:12:07 > 0:12:12'I need to convince them that what I achieved at Scarborough was just the start.'

0:12:12 > 0:12:16What gave me a massive motivation after the show went out

0:12:16 > 0:12:19was Clarence House called me up.

0:12:19 > 0:12:22I thought I was going to the gallows, to be honest,

0:12:22 > 0:12:26but they sent me an invite to meet His Royal Highness, the Prince of Wales

0:12:26 > 0:12:31and we discussed everything from how we could change the food in the NHS...

0:12:31 > 0:12:35And what motivated me more than anything was the passion

0:12:35 > 0:12:38and the enthusiasm that the Prince had for the project,

0:12:38 > 0:12:43so that gave me the idea to then organise tonight, really.

0:12:43 > 0:12:46'I have to make tonight a success.

0:12:46 > 0:12:50'If I can't persuade a room full of top chefs to get involved

0:12:50 > 0:12:55'and help me transform hospital catering, I'm worried I'll fail.'

0:12:55 > 0:12:58Nervous? They don't know what they're here for.

0:12:58 > 0:13:02'As they don't exactly know why they've been invited here,

0:13:02 > 0:13:06'I'll show them a video of everything we've done at Scarborough.'

0:13:06 > 0:13:10Come on in, guys. Come on in. Come on in.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13First of all, thank you for coming.

0:13:13 > 0:13:17However, I've tricked you. None of you know really why you're here.

0:13:17 > 0:13:22As you're probably aware, I had a bit of a mission

0:13:22 > 0:13:28to try and help a place and that place was Scarborough Hospital.

0:13:28 > 0:13:32And in the three months that we were there, we transformed the food.

0:13:32 > 0:13:37They've got fresh fruit, fresh veg, local ingredients.

0:13:37 > 0:13:42We just transformed the whole thing and just to show you, I just want to play you this.

0:13:42 > 0:13:47Then I'll chat to you afterwards. So if you can just have a quick look...

0:13:49 > 0:13:54'I spent last summer working alongside catering manager Pat Bell and her team.

0:13:54 > 0:14:00'My aim was to improve the quality of the food while sticking to a meagre NHS budget.'

0:14:00 > 0:14:06It's the hardest thing I've ever done. Running a restaurant is a walk in the park compared with this.

0:14:06 > 0:14:09To change such a small thing benefits so many people.

0:14:09 > 0:14:14'Pat and her team should be immensely proud of the progress they've made so far.'

0:14:16 > 0:14:19APPLAUSE

0:14:20 > 0:14:23You might not be applauding me in a minute.

0:14:25 > 0:14:28Now here's the bomb that I'm about to drop on you.

0:14:30 > 0:14:32I need you guys.

0:14:33 > 0:14:37I suddenly realised, having been to Birmingham, I can't do it on my own.

0:14:37 > 0:14:43It's not easy, but all I'm asking you for is an hour a month of your time. If you can do more, great.

0:14:43 > 0:14:46I just want you on board first, so I'm going to leave you to it.

0:14:46 > 0:14:50I'll warm up the pizza oven and get you another beer.

0:14:50 > 0:14:54'That went better than I expected. None of them have walked out yet.

0:14:54 > 0:15:00'Lots of them have their own reasons and motivation for wanting to get involved, so fingers crossed.'

0:15:00 > 0:15:04My most recent hospital experience was a friend who was in hospital.

0:15:04 > 0:15:08The food was the big moment of the day and it was always disappointing.

0:15:08 > 0:15:14I ended up cooking stuff in the restaurant, then taking it down and warming it up.

0:15:14 > 0:15:19For a patient in hospital, the highlight of their day is the food.

0:15:19 > 0:15:21It's going to be huge work. It'll be massive.

0:15:21 > 0:15:26You'll not just be able to go in... Each of us will go in and look at it

0:15:26 > 0:15:30and think that... There'll be so many hurdles and hoops.

0:15:30 > 0:15:33James has said an hour a month. It won't be an hour a month.

0:15:33 > 0:15:38'Everyone seems really enthusiastic by what I've told them so far,

0:15:38 > 0:15:42'but now it's time to find out how many will agree to work with me.'

0:15:42 > 0:15:47You see, it is English weather. At least it's not dampened the spirits in there.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50I think...I think, fingers crossed,

0:15:50 > 0:15:52they're all up for it.

0:15:52 > 0:15:56They've got soggy pizzas, so if you want to know what to cook chefs,

0:15:56 > 0:16:00soggy pizzas and wet salad leaves and plenty of beer.

0:16:00 > 0:16:04'A big piece of news I also want to share with everyone

0:16:04 > 0:16:10'is that I'll be working with the Health Minister for Wales in rolling out a standardised menu.

0:16:10 > 0:16:13'She wants my help in coming up with some dishes

0:16:13 > 0:16:19'and I'm hoping Stephen Terry, who's based there, will be up for working alongside me.'

0:16:19 > 0:16:26- Wales, they want me to be involved in changing every hospital in Wales. - Whoa!- Wow!

0:16:26 > 0:16:30That's how big a clout we could have if we work together as a group.

0:16:30 > 0:16:34Now, already I'm going to do it anyway, with or without you.

0:16:34 > 0:16:40It'll just take me ten times as long and it'll probably put me in one of these hospitals.

0:16:40 > 0:16:45But by one person in the trust and one person in the government saying

0:16:45 > 0:16:49that this is a good thing, let's roll it out, it's massive.

0:16:49 > 0:16:52- I'm in. I'm in, James. Deffo.- Good.

0:16:52 > 0:16:54That's one signed, done, right.

0:16:54 > 0:16:58'While other chefs decide if they're on board or not,

0:16:58 > 0:17:04'Paul Merrett puts his finger on an issue at the heart of many problems in hospitals - a fear of change.'

0:17:04 > 0:17:08- When we go, we're not going to be met with a resilience to change?- Yes.

0:17:08 > 0:17:11- We are, aren't we?- Yeah. - LAUGHTER

0:17:11 > 0:17:16I can't say... I'll put the difficult one on you, Paul.

0:17:16 > 0:17:20I can't say it's going to be easy because it isn't,

0:17:20 > 0:17:24so treat it with the utmost of silk gloves.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27'So who else will agree?

0:17:27 > 0:17:32'The Tanner brothers are hugely successful, running two restaurants in Plymouth,

0:17:32 > 0:17:35'and I'm hoping that both will want to work with me.'

0:17:35 > 0:17:39- What do you reckon?- I think it's great.- It's a no-brainer, James.

0:17:39 > 0:17:43Have you the time? You're busy running the restaurants.

0:17:43 > 0:17:49I think for something as good as that that can fundamentally spark change,

0:17:49 > 0:17:55like we said earlier, collectively as a group, communication is important as well, it can only be positive.

0:17:55 > 0:17:57That's two.

0:17:57 > 0:18:00What's your initial thoughts first?

0:18:00 > 0:18:05I really get how important, both nutritionally, but also morally

0:18:05 > 0:18:08and motivationally, good food is.

0:18:08 > 0:18:13- Getting better is partly in the mind. That's the thing. - What you've been talking about,

0:18:13 > 0:18:18it's down to people skills, how you get your catering manager onside,

0:18:18 > 0:18:22how you get your head chef saying, "You're maybe lacking in knowledge

0:18:22 > 0:18:28"of how to do something differently and skilfully," how you get them involved and excited by it.

0:18:28 > 0:18:32'All's going well so far. I'm hoping Lawrence Keogh will also be keen.

0:18:32 > 0:18:38- 'He's had first-hand experience of being in hospital.' - You've hit a nerve with me.

0:18:38 > 0:18:41I have with you. That's why I invited you as well.

0:18:41 > 0:18:43Yeah, um...

0:18:43 > 0:18:46I mean, I'm an outpatient.

0:18:46 > 0:18:50I'm still an outpatient. I've had a renal transplant, kidney transplant.

0:18:50 > 0:18:54I've been in and out of hospitals half my career,

0:18:54 > 0:19:00so it's quality of life in a hospital and it's patient care. It's basic patient care.

0:19:00 > 0:19:04It starts with food and a good meal that you look forward to enjoying.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07It may be as simple as soup and that's what we did.

0:19:07 > 0:19:09That was the biggest thing.

0:19:09 > 0:19:12I know it's a small thing for you guys,

0:19:12 > 0:19:17but if you could think that six hospitals from three months' time

0:19:17 > 0:19:23are not going to buy frozen veg or packet soup, they're going to purely cook fresh produce,

0:19:23 > 0:19:26look at the massive difference that will make.

0:19:26 > 0:19:30With your help and the experience that you've had at Scarborough,

0:19:30 > 0:19:33it's a green light, it's fantastic.

0:19:33 > 0:19:39- With that support, that makes all the difference. Absolutely.- Everybody in then?- Absolutely.- Everyone's in.

0:19:39 > 0:19:43Can you promise me you'll still be speaking in three months' time?

0:19:44 > 0:19:48The nice thing about this is James already has recipes in place,

0:19:48 > 0:19:52the ideas he wants to implement. He just needs our help.

0:19:52 > 0:19:58Yeah, we just have to get in there and implement it. "Chef, how do I do the carrot soup again?"

0:19:59 > 0:20:05With James's inspiration on looking at things and trying to do fresh produce,

0:20:05 > 0:20:09buying better quality ingredients, it can happen.

0:20:09 > 0:20:11I hope so.

0:20:11 > 0:20:14I get the feeling that tonight has been a bit of a success.

0:20:14 > 0:20:20The weather didn't help, but it didn't dampen the spirits and I think everybody is on board.

0:20:20 > 0:20:26But I don't know whether they realise what they've let themselves in for.

0:20:26 > 0:20:30I don't want to fall at any hurdles here. I want to see it through.

0:20:30 > 0:20:32Smash those hurdles down.

0:20:32 > 0:20:35It's going to be a National, isn't it, eh?

0:20:35 > 0:20:40Some of us are going to fall at the first hurdle. Hopefully, it's not me.

0:20:40 > 0:20:42If I can go in

0:20:42 > 0:20:47and say something, just one or two clever things

0:20:47 > 0:20:50or see one or two things that could be changed

0:20:50 > 0:20:55and make a big difference to someone receiving their meal, then it's all been worth it.

0:20:55 > 0:20:59I will do whatever I can and it'll be more than an hour a month for sure.

0:20:59 > 0:21:04We're all going to end up in hospital some time, loved ones, kids. Absolutely, deffo.

0:21:04 > 0:21:08It's fantastic that these guys are on board,

0:21:08 > 0:21:11but one thing is for sure - this is just the beginning.

0:21:11 > 0:21:16It's the beginning of a long journey not just for me, but for my kitchen brigade.

0:21:18 > 0:21:23'For the first time since I walked into the Birmingham Royal Orthopaedic Hospital,

0:21:23 > 0:21:28'I believe that by all working together, we can achieve my goals.'

0:21:28 > 0:21:31It feels good to make a difference whatever you do.

0:21:31 > 0:21:38Constantly in the back of my mind is my grandmother. She passed away in hospital 15 years ago,

0:21:38 > 0:21:43but I get the feeling she's behind me all the way. This is positive.

0:21:44 > 0:21:49While I wait to hear back from the hospital trusts we've contacted

0:21:49 > 0:21:56to see how many will agree to let my band of chefs into their catering department, I go back to Birmingham.

0:21:56 > 0:22:00I had asked Head of Facilities Emma to talk to the wards

0:22:00 > 0:22:06to make sure they call the kitchen by 8am with the exact number of patients we need to cater for.

0:22:06 > 0:22:13That one simple change will cut down the huge amount of food that's left uneaten and thrown into the bin.

0:22:13 > 0:22:18I've tried to implement quite a drastic change immediately

0:22:18 > 0:22:24and that's to get the wards to call down between 7.30 and 8 - it's now quarter to eight -

0:22:24 > 0:22:26and give us the numbers.

0:22:26 > 0:22:30There's about five wards here and a high dependency unit.

0:22:30 > 0:22:35In theory, six wards. And, as yet, only one of them has phoned down.

0:22:35 > 0:22:40'I'm infuriated that the wards don't seem to understand how vital it is

0:22:40 > 0:22:44'for the kitchen to know how many people they're cooking for.'

0:22:44 > 0:22:46They'll be really stubborn.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49They don't do it because no one wants to do it.

0:22:49 > 0:22:55- Good luck! - 'It's now eight o'clock and the phone still hasn't rung.

0:22:55 > 0:23:00'I have no choice but to call the wards myself.' It's the kitchen here.

0:23:00 > 0:23:03Can you tell me how many you've got?

0:23:04 > 0:23:07So 13 in total, yeah? OK, thanks.

0:23:07 > 0:23:11They know this straight away. Straight off, bang.

0:23:11 > 0:23:16Hi, did you get the message to phone down with the food list for today?

0:23:17 > 0:23:22No? OK. Could you tell me how many you've got on your ward for lunch?

0:23:22 > 0:23:2522. Any special diets? Halal? Vegetarians?

0:23:26 > 0:23:31One diabetic. Three diabetics? Two diabetics? Right.

0:23:33 > 0:23:38Right, OK. God help you if you're diabetic.

0:23:38 > 0:23:42Did you get a message yesterday? Right.

0:23:42 > 0:23:45Is it better if we moved the time?

0:23:46 > 0:23:51Half past eight? All right. Thank you very much. Cheers.

0:23:52 > 0:23:57That's quite interesting. They've got a handover issue at 8 o'clock.

0:23:57 > 0:23:58So...

0:23:58 > 0:24:05I've just spoken to the Ward Sister and she said it would be better to do it at half past eight.

0:24:05 > 0:24:09'Another issue that's frustrated me on previous visits

0:24:09 > 0:24:14'is that none of the team were following written recipes or weighing ingredients,

0:24:14 > 0:24:20'but it looks like the team have finally taken on board what I said. What a difference.'

0:24:20 > 0:24:25We know what we've got to do. We will do it. Gareth's writing things down.

0:24:25 > 0:24:31He's on prep today and he's writing everything he's doing down. It has sunk in.

0:24:31 > 0:24:35Finally, the penny's dropped that we know what we've got to do.

0:24:35 > 0:24:41And we're going to get on with it. The team are OK and they're getting on with it, to be fair.

0:24:41 > 0:24:47Before James turned up, I wouldn't say we were... laidback or slacking,

0:24:47 > 0:24:51but it was very chilled. It is hard work.

0:24:51 > 0:24:56But we've got to put up with it, we've got to work hard at it.

0:24:56 > 0:25:01If we want our job at the end of the day, we've got to put up with it.

0:25:01 > 0:25:08'It feels like I'm starting to win the team around, so the next stage is improving the food they serve.

0:25:08 > 0:25:13'I'm going to show them how quick and easy it is to cook soup using fresh produce.

0:25:13 > 0:25:18'I know this works from when we started serving fresh soup at Scarborough General Hospital.

0:25:18 > 0:25:21'It was the key to our success.'

0:25:21 > 0:25:27This is the first thing I've cooked in your kitchen. I want to show you one of the fundamental things

0:25:27 > 0:25:31I want to put on the menu - soup. You can make this with me.

0:25:31 > 0:25:33One litre.

0:25:34 > 0:25:40It's all to do with the cooking time. This is why, as well as having scales,

0:25:40 > 0:25:46we have a timer. When this comes to the boil, four minutes, off.

0:25:46 > 0:25:53You've got yourself a soup. I know that's quicker to make than it is to open all those packets.

0:25:53 > 0:26:00If we start to make this and then sell it in the restaurant and keep the menus the same,

0:26:00 > 0:26:06it saves you having to make two separate menus. I think the staff will like this.

0:26:08 > 0:26:14'I'm hoping that the team is beginning to see what a difference fresh soup will make to patients

0:26:14 > 0:26:20'and also to help generate income by selling it to staff in the hospital restaurant.'

0:26:20 > 0:26:24Just as good as mine. Just as good!

0:26:24 > 0:26:30'But the real test is what the patients think. I'm sending Tracy up to the wards to get some feedback.'

0:26:30 > 0:26:36When you go up there and give it to the patients, I want them to be honest, say what they think,

0:26:36 > 0:26:42but also give it to the nurses and ask them and everyone in the wards, the staff,

0:26:42 > 0:26:47if we were to put this on the menu downstairs, with a baguette in a bag, would they be interested?

0:26:47 > 0:26:50- If so, what would they be prepared to pay?- Right.

0:26:50 > 0:26:57I've got celeriac and apple and butternut squash and lime. Which one would you like to try?

0:26:57 > 0:26:59The celeriac and apple.

0:26:59 > 0:27:04We went to Ward Two and got really good feedback from patients and staff.

0:27:04 > 0:27:06All fresh.

0:27:08 > 0:27:09OK?

0:27:12 > 0:27:19- What do you think?- Very nice. - Would you buy it in the restaurant? With a baguette?- I would, yeah.

0:27:22 > 0:27:28- Ooh, beautiful. - Would you like it on the menu? - I think it would go very well.

0:27:28 > 0:27:34- Think the patients would enjoy that? - Yeah. If I enjoy it, the patients will as well!

0:27:38 > 0:27:42- You'd like to see it on the menu? - Yeah. That's really nice.

0:27:42 > 0:27:46I feel a lot better today. I feel really good.

0:27:46 > 0:27:51I'm looking forward to working with him. It'll be all good from now on.

0:27:51 > 0:27:58I don't feel nervous any more. I feel like I've got the get up and go now. Got to do it, definitely.

0:27:58 > 0:28:05I'd like to say he taught me something new about how to make soups. I know how to make a soup.

0:28:05 > 0:28:11But how he did it in four minutes and got two, three soups on the go. Bang, done. Nice, fresh.

0:28:11 > 0:28:18They've understood where I'm coming from. I'm not trying to create a Michelin-star meal,

0:28:18 > 0:28:21but good, simple food at a good price.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24It's like something clicked. Can't let him down now.

0:28:24 > 0:28:30We've got James here. I mean, if he can't do it, who can?

0:28:30 > 0:28:36'There's been a real shift in the team's attitude and I think I've finally got them on my side,

0:28:36 > 0:28:42'but I still need to tackle the issue of waste as nearly half the food comes back uneaten.

0:28:42 > 0:28:47'Again I need the Head of Facilities, Emma, to help me out.'

0:28:47 > 0:28:51This is down to the communication. This is why I wanted you here.

0:28:51 > 0:28:58What I said to you about the wards. What's the most expensive thing on this table?

0:28:58 > 0:29:03- It's got to be the chicken. - I've got one, two, three,

0:29:03 > 0:29:07four. Four bits of chicken that have not been eaten. That's 15 quid.

0:29:07 > 0:29:15Twice a day. How much do you want to save? 210 quid a week. 840 quid a month.

0:29:15 > 0:29:19- I just saved you £11,000. - You've just cut our overspend.

0:29:19 > 0:29:21No communication.

0:29:24 > 0:29:28- That's it.- So this has surely got to be, phase one, getting the numbers

0:29:28 > 0:29:33and then it's phase two, actually getting them to order what they want.

0:29:33 > 0:29:38I'd like that, yes. I can't see why patients aren't given a menu.

0:29:38 > 0:29:44Phase three, I really do believe to go forward we need just one menu.

0:29:44 > 0:29:51'So the first steps are to implement an ordering system and get patients to choose which dish they want.

0:29:51 > 0:29:57'I'm convinced this will solve the waste issue and save thousands per year.

0:29:57 > 0:30:03'The next stage is to just have one menu so both patients and staff are eating the same meals.

0:30:03 > 0:30:08'That will help better utilise spending power and cut down on the overspend.

0:30:08 > 0:30:14'But, of course, my ambition is not just to implement changes in the Birmingham hospital.

0:30:14 > 0:30:19'I've had to face facts and accept that every hospital throws up different problems,

0:30:19 > 0:30:25'but time is one thing I don't have as I have my work cut out here.

0:30:25 > 0:30:28'So I've invited a group of top-notch chefs to come to my home

0:30:28 > 0:30:35'to all agree to work under my guidance with a hospital in their area. All said they'd get involved,

0:30:35 > 0:30:38'but they may not all be able to.'

0:30:38 > 0:30:42This project's been frustrating and positive in equal measure.

0:30:42 > 0:30:48On the one hand you've got one of the world's great kitchen teams willing to give time for nothing.

0:30:48 > 0:30:53The frustrating thing is I've just got four hospitals to put them in.

0:30:53 > 0:30:59'Despite my fellow chefs' enthusiasm, out of all the hundreds of hospitals we contacted,

0:30:59 > 0:31:04'I'm dismayed only a small number have shown any interest in my help.

0:31:04 > 0:31:09'Most catering teams either weren't bothered or reckoned their food was good enough already,

0:31:09 > 0:31:14'and plenty have implemented the cook-chill method.

0:31:14 > 0:31:20'But I'm not going to let any of that put me off. I'll concentrate on the hospitals that would let us in

0:31:20 > 0:31:24'and they'll have the attention of at least one chef local to them.

0:31:24 > 0:31:30'So working with me in London at the Royal Free Hospital is Lawrence Keogh, renowned restaurant chef.

0:31:30 > 0:31:33'in the trade for over 20 years.'

0:31:33 > 0:31:40I'm fully aware of what can be done with food. There will be a lot of red tape, but it needs sorting out.

0:31:40 > 0:31:43This is the NHS's chance.

0:31:43 > 0:31:50- 'Joining Lawrence is award-winning star chef Paul Merrett.'- I consider myself a shareholder in the NHS.

0:31:50 > 0:31:55I'm rubbish at heart surgery, but I'm all right at cooking,

0:31:55 > 0:32:00so to go in and help turn around and change and reform the food

0:32:00 > 0:32:06is the biggest thing I could offer the NHS and I offer it willingly.

0:32:06 > 0:32:11'Another hospital that's asked for our help is in Truro, so I'm sending the Tanner brothers

0:32:11 > 0:32:18- 'to work in the Royal Cornwall.' - I don't think it'll be easy. If it was, it would have been done.

0:32:18 > 0:32:24We need to take what we've done with our business into this environment, which is unknown to us,

0:32:24 > 0:32:27and instil that into those people.

0:32:27 > 0:32:35I think the biggest fear for me with anything is failure. I don't want to fail. I never want to fail.

0:32:35 > 0:32:42'On the other side of the UK, in King's Lynn, Michelin-starred chef Galton Blackiston will work

0:32:42 > 0:32:44'at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital.'

0:32:44 > 0:32:51The NHS do a fantastic job and I'm there to sort of bring a real sense of enthusiasm to the kitchen.

0:32:51 > 0:32:56The idea of not being able to do it would be horrific.

0:32:56 > 0:33:00'Finally, in Abergavenny in Wales is Nevill Hall Hospital,

0:33:00 > 0:33:05'where two-time Michelin-star winner Stephen Terry is heading.'

0:33:05 > 0:33:09The possibility of what will be developed going across Wales is exciting.

0:33:09 > 0:33:16There is a weight of pressure that comes with that. It's a very responsible position to be in.

0:33:16 > 0:33:21To be part of something that will change things for the better even in a small way,

0:33:21 > 0:33:26with my involvement, I'm really looking forward to it.

0:33:29 > 0:33:33'I'm going with Stephen to meet the Health Minister for Wales, Lesley Griffiths.

0:33:33 > 0:33:38'She's asked us to come up with recipes to go on a menu that could be rolled out to all hospitals

0:33:38 > 0:33:45'across Wales. It's a huge honour to have been asked and I'm chuffed she believes in what I'm trying.

0:33:45 > 0:33:50'It's also a massive responsibility, so we've got to get this one right.'

0:33:50 > 0:33:54Lesley, thanks for meeting us. Tell us what you have in mind.

0:33:54 > 0:34:00Well, I think nutrition for patients is really important and what we've done as a government -

0:34:00 > 0:34:06my predecessor started this - was we wanted to make sure that patients' nutrition and hydration

0:34:06 > 0:34:12is as important as the medicine. To get well, you need good food. It's really important we have that.

0:34:12 > 0:34:18So the picture is what? Paint us the basic sketch of what you're trying to achieve.

0:34:18 > 0:34:25- Well, I would like to see, right across Wales, in every hospital - we have 115 hospitals in Wales.- 115?

0:34:25 > 0:34:31- You're going to be busy! - And from the end of this year I'm bringing in the all-Wales menu.

0:34:31 > 0:34:38So the idea is to almost have a recipe bank that people can dive into and come out of?

0:34:38 > 0:34:43- Absolutely.- Good. 'It's really encouraging to hear that Wales is so committed

0:34:43 > 0:34:47'to improving its hospital food. That's the case in Scotland, too.

0:34:47 > 0:34:53'In 2008, the Scottish Government set out nutritional standards that all hospitals have to follow.

0:34:53 > 0:34:58'Wales is taking things further by introducing compulsory recipes, a great idea.

0:34:58 > 0:35:03'I find it shocking it hasn't been introduced right across the UK.

0:35:03 > 0:35:09'Stephen and I have come to Nevill Hall Hospital in Abergavenny, where we'll test out our recipes.

0:35:09 > 0:35:15'If we can achieve our goals here, we'll be one step closer to every patient being served

0:35:15 > 0:35:19'freshly-made soup and dishes using produce from local suppliers.'

0:35:19 > 0:35:23Nice to meet you. So how many wards have you got here, then?

0:35:23 > 0:35:30- 12 wards.- 12 wards. And what are your costs? The fundamentals of this.

0:35:30 > 0:35:38We've got £3.85 to spend per patient, per day. That includes beverages and a milky drink.

0:35:38 > 0:35:43- £3.85.- Does that include a fruit as part of their diet? - Fruit is included.

0:35:43 > 0:35:48'One thing this hospital has that's missing in Birmingham is an ordering system,

0:35:48 > 0:35:54'where patients get to choose which meal they want.' This is interesting. You've not seen this.

0:35:54 > 0:35:57Explain to Stephen how this works.

0:35:57 > 0:36:02These are the numbers collated in the morning. All the different wards.

0:36:02 > 0:36:08- It's a lot of information. - Happy with that?- Yeah. I've never seen a menu like this before!

0:36:08 > 0:36:11You're going to see a lot of them!

0:36:13 > 0:36:17'And that ordering system has a very obvious benefit.

0:36:17 > 0:36:21'They know how much food to prepare so the kitchen has only 9% waste,

0:36:21 > 0:36:24'compared with 40% in Birmingham.'

0:36:24 > 0:36:30- So that's it. First impressions? - Good. I'm impressed. I've never been anywhere like that before.

0:36:30 > 0:36:32You lucky thing!

0:36:32 > 0:36:38'I'm especially keen for Stephen to investigate the hospital's procurement - how food is bought.'

0:36:38 > 0:36:42I feel they haven't changed suppliers for a number of years.

0:36:42 > 0:36:49We really need to look at Welsh suppliers supplying that amount of food, right across the board.

0:36:49 > 0:36:54- 115 hospitals.- That's huge. - It's a tremendous amount of food. So good luck.

0:36:55 > 0:36:59You don't know what you've let yourself in for!

0:37:00 > 0:37:06'I've got my suspicions that once Stephen starts exploring where his food is going to come from

0:37:06 > 0:37:13'and which suppliers will be used, he might come across things that could be improved. And I'm right -

0:37:13 > 0:37:19'as he finds out a big more, he discovers something quite extraordinary is missing.'

0:37:19 > 0:37:24- Lynn, this is Stephen Terry.- Pleased to meet you.- Lynn's a dietician.

0:37:24 > 0:37:28You both work closely together on the menu at the moment.

0:37:28 > 0:37:34- What's popular at the moment? - The most popular dish as always is roast dinners,

0:37:34 > 0:37:39- steak pies, cottage pies. - Nice warm, hearty food.

0:37:39 > 0:37:45- And that can be any day of the week? - Any day.- Roast chicken dinner. Do you do lamb, beef, pork?- No lamb.

0:37:45 > 0:37:52- No lamb?- Pork, chicken and turkey. - I don't see why that's not achievable, to do lamb.

0:37:52 > 0:37:58- It's a challenge for you.- Yeah. - Can you actually find a dish that will meet their budget?

0:37:58 > 0:38:04- I'd love to put lamb on the menu. - Ask 100 people what's your favourite roast dinner?- Lamb. Welsh lamb.

0:38:04 > 0:38:06Of course.

0:38:07 > 0:38:13'But Welsh lamb isn't on the menu and the reason why is a classic example

0:38:13 > 0:38:19'of the red tape that can surround NHS procurement. The Health Service is under huge pressure to save money

0:38:19 > 0:38:25'and yet hospitals like this aren't always able to cut costs by using cheaper suppliers nearby,

0:38:25 > 0:38:30'which would also give their local economy a boost. If all of the 115 hospitals in Wales

0:38:30 > 0:38:36'used Welsh lamb, it could potentially mean thousands of pounds for local farmers.

0:38:36 > 0:38:41'As many farms battle to avoid closure, that could be the contract that keeps them afloat.'

0:38:41 > 0:38:46What shocked me is the fact that because it comes down to cost,

0:38:46 > 0:38:52here in Wales, in a Welsh hospital, we can't serve Welsh lamb,

0:38:52 > 0:38:56or any lamb for that matter. I don't understand why.

0:38:56 > 0:39:00We've got to get on the phone, look at the suppliers and go from there.

0:39:00 > 0:39:06'It does seem bizarre that there are no Welsh lamb dishes here, but it's not unusual.

0:39:06 > 0:39:11'It's because in too many hospitals across Wales, the cost is out of their range.'

0:39:11 > 0:39:16Going back to that lamb, what are they charging per kilo?

0:39:16 > 0:39:20- £8.10 a kilo.- £8.10 a kilo. - Leg of lamb.

0:39:20 > 0:39:24- Leg of lamb.- That's... - Fresh or frozen?- Fresh.

0:39:24 > 0:39:28- Does it say where the lamb's from? - New Zealand.

0:39:28 > 0:39:34'Stephen's convinced there must be a local supplier who can provide hospitals with lamb from much closer

0:39:34 > 0:39:42- 'and within their budget.'- I'm going to call my meat suppliers to see their best price for Welsh lamb.

0:39:43 > 0:39:48Hiya, it's Stephen. How are you doing? Can you do me a favour?

0:39:48 > 0:39:56What's the price...? I'm just doing a cost analysis. On Welsh lamb legs, what's the price per kilo?

0:39:56 > 0:39:58Best price per kilo.

0:39:59 > 0:40:02£7.99 on the bone.

0:40:02 > 0:40:05We'd want about 45 kilos,

0:40:05 > 0:40:08once a week.

0:40:08 > 0:40:12£6.50, £6.99? £6.50 sounds better. I'll leave it there.

0:40:12 > 0:40:15I'll get back to you. Nice one.

0:40:15 > 0:40:17Cheers. Bye.

0:40:18 > 0:40:24Well, that's straight off. Fresh Welsh lamb and already it's down to £6.50.

0:40:24 > 0:40:28'That's £1.60 cheaper per kilo than lamb from New Zealand.

0:40:28 > 0:40:34'Once the two of us have called a few more suppliers, the situation seems even more ridiculous to us.'

0:40:34 > 0:40:40- Hello.- Hello, mate.- You all right? - How you doing?- Good. You OK?

0:40:40 > 0:40:46Yeah. I've had a full day in Birmingham. I've got together a list of about six suppliers

0:40:46 > 0:40:50that will sell and be able to service

0:40:50 > 0:40:55the entire country of Wales in lamb, Welsh lamb.

0:40:55 > 0:41:00I've met with a group of farmers a couple of weeks ago.

0:41:00 > 0:41:05And some of them do about 20,000 lambs a month. There's plenty there.

0:41:05 > 0:41:08They'll do it at the price we want.

0:41:08 > 0:41:13- I think probably the shoulder would be the most cost-effective part.- OK.

0:41:13 > 0:41:19At the moment, there is no Welsh lamb on the hospitals' menus in Wales,

0:41:19 > 0:41:25- which is a shocker.- That's going to change. We've got to make sure the recipe is accessible

0:41:25 > 0:41:29- and can be done in the cost.- Yeah. - All right, mate?- Fantastic.

0:41:29 > 0:41:33- Take care. See you soon. - See you, James.- Bye.

0:41:33 > 0:41:36'It's bonkers.'

0:41:36 > 0:41:40The only lamb that is available is Australian or New Zealand lamb.

0:41:40 > 0:41:45If you step outside, you'll see them around you, millions of sheep.

0:41:47 > 0:41:53When it comes to food and food ordering, they've got the opportunity to buy local.

0:41:53 > 0:41:59It seems to me that...you might as well go down to the local supermarket. It's probably cheaper!

0:41:59 > 0:42:05It should appal people watching this because this is your money! Taxpayers' money.

0:42:05 > 0:42:09We pay for this. And nobody seems to care.

0:42:09 > 0:42:13This is why everything's going to go cook-chill, unfortunately.

0:42:13 > 0:42:19But the downside of going cook-chill is that the guys in Birmingham will all be out of a job.

0:42:19 > 0:42:21It's crazy.

0:42:21 > 0:42:27'Next time: I start to take control of the kitchen in Birmingham as I become Head Chef.'

0:42:27 > 0:42:31- When was this taken out the freezer? - Yesterday.

0:42:33 > 0:42:36- I'm going to be busy.- You are.

0:42:36 > 0:42:40- One minute!- It's all happening now. - 30 seconds! Come on!

0:42:40 > 0:42:47'And my kitchen brigade gets down to work with their local hospitals across the country.'

0:42:47 > 0:42:50The reality is massively sinking in. I'm out of my comfort zone.

0:42:50 > 0:42:55There was a little bit of bravado. There's a real challenge ahead.

0:42:55 > 0:42:59- Lots going on. Very, very busy. - What are we going into?

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