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:00:10. > :00:32.minutes of sizzling hot, sensational food. This is Saturday Kitchen Live.

:00:33. > :00:39.Welcome to the show. James isn't here today, sadly. He's laid up in

:00:40. > :00:43.bed feeling poorly. Get well soon. We know you're watching W me in the

:00:44. > :00:48.studio are two chefs with two different culinary styles. First the

:00:49. > :00:53.man whose introducing the UK to the wonderful world of per you'vian food

:00:54. > :00:58.is Martin Morales. Good to have you here. Thank you very much. Next to

:00:59. > :01:05.him a man who has earned his cooking stripes, but now returns his own

:01:06. > :01:09.Michelin-starred restaurant, Alyn Williams. Martin, what are you

:01:10. > :01:19.cooking? Imagine the best burger you've ever had, but this time

:01:20. > :01:25.vegetarian. It's a quinoa burger, with cassava chips. It's a big

:01:26. > :01:30.portion that. Delicious. That's the best burger I'm going to ever eat,

:01:31. > :01:33.right? It's meat-free. I hope it's better than a meat burger. I think

:01:34. > :01:37.it's something special. I'll let you know. Don't worry about that.

:01:38. > :01:43.Fingers crossed. What are you cooking for us? An American classic,

:01:44. > :01:48.southern fried chicken with ranch dressing, baby gem lettuce and

:01:49. > :01:52.radishes. Is that your style? Not really. It's what I like to eat,

:01:53. > :01:59.though. About the ranch dressing? It's a classic dressing. Yeah,

:02:00. > :02:04.straight out of the book, my favourite - not my book! That's to

:02:05. > :02:10.come is it? One day. It looks fantastic. Two tasty dishes to look

:02:11. > :02:15.forward to. We have got a line up of fantastic foodie films from the BBC

:02:16. > :02:19.archive. Today we have Celebrity MasterChef and Exploring China with

:02:20. > :02:23.Ken Hom and Ching-He Huang. Our special guest today is not only a

:02:24. > :02:26.man of many talents, he's a man of many voices, he's used his skills to

:02:27. > :02:32.award-winning effects on shows that I remember, because I'm old enough

:02:33. > :02:36.like Spitting Image and the Big Impression. Welcome to you, Alistair

:02:37. > :02:38.McGowan. APPLAUSE

:02:39. > :02:43.Very good impression of James Martin, by the way. Am I? I'm like a

:02:44. > :02:51.small version. It's like James has had a makeover. Really? Yeah, lost

:02:52. > :02:55.his jacket. To fill. You're facing Food Heaven and Food Hell. Are you a

:02:56. > :02:58.big cook? From that I take it you didn't see me winning Sport Relief

:02:59. > :03:03.Bake Off. You'd have known the answer to that question. No, I'm a

:03:04. > :03:08.recent convert to cooking really. I didn't do much and this year I've

:03:09. > :03:12.done a lot. I took part in Bake-off about a month ago. Do you find it

:03:13. > :03:15.relaxing? Yeah, I do. Baking particularly, baking, I really

:03:16. > :03:20.enjoy. Especially if I'm doing something very masculine at the same

:03:21. > :03:25.time like watching the football. It's the yin and yang. That's the

:03:26. > :03:30.only way I can do it. At the end of the show, you will face Food Heaven

:03:31. > :03:36.or Food Hell. Food Heaven, based on your tip-top favourite ingredient or

:03:37. > :03:41.Food Hell, a nightmare ingredient. Tell us about that. I've always

:03:42. > :03:46.loved lemon meringue pie, three of my favourite words. From your

:03:47. > :03:49.childhood? It is. My mother cooked a lot when we were kids and then

:03:50. > :03:53.convenience foods came in and that went out of the window. She used to

:03:54. > :03:58.dot most wonderful lemon meringue pie. A comfort thing as well. Yeah

:03:59. > :04:03.and I love the change of textures, the fluffiness of the meringue and

:04:04. > :04:07.the tangy, semisolid nature of the lemon and the pastry. You don't see

:04:08. > :04:12.it many places any more. You don't see it in many restaurants. I had it

:04:13. > :04:19.recently at a convention... A convention! That sounds nice (! )

:04:20. > :04:23.Cooking for a thousand people and this pie was exquisite. What about

:04:24. > :04:28.your Food Hell? Well, again, it goes back to my mother. Even now, she

:04:29. > :04:33.will say I have lovely pork chops. Not that. I can't do them! They're

:04:34. > :04:39.so dry. They're lovely. I can't eat them at all. Pork or just overcooked

:04:40. > :04:44.pork chops? Noel Coward wrote a wonderful poem... About a porkchop?

:04:45. > :04:48.About pig, every part of biggy is all right by me, it goes. He goes on

:04:49. > :04:53.and on how he likes bacon, ham and everything. I'm like that with the

:04:54. > :04:56.pig, I have to say, but I don't like actual pork and the chop

:04:57. > :05:04.particularly. Convert me. That's your job. . So either lemon meringue

:05:05. > :05:09.pie or pork offering for Alastair. For Food Heaven, I'm giving the

:05:10. > :05:16.classic a modern twist. I will make my lemon curd cream and serve it on

:05:17. > :05:19.a light lemon sponge with meringue shards and dry lemon slices. It's

:05:20. > :05:25.left field of what you're used to. You'll like it. Or Alastair could

:05:26. > :05:30.have Food Hell - pork. Thai style porkchop with red cabbage salad.

:05:31. > :05:35.Grill the chop, bung it in the oven and serve alongside finely sliced

:05:36. > :05:39.raw red cappage, tossed in chilli dressing, mint, ginger, lots of

:05:40. > :05:44.other Asian flavours. That looks different to the way my mum did it.

:05:45. > :05:47.You will have to see which he gets at the end of the show. If you'd

:05:48. > :05:56.like to ask a question to our chefs today, call this number:

:05:57. > :06:02.A few of you will be able to ask questions live a little later on. If

:06:03. > :06:06.you do get through, I'll be asking you if you want Alastair to face

:06:07. > :06:13.either Food Heaven or Food Hell. Right, I'll leave you here a second.

:06:14. > :06:19.We're going to cook now. It's Martin Morales. Good to have you here. What

:06:20. > :06:26.are you cooking for husband? -- -- cooking for us? We are doing a

:06:27. > :06:31.lovely dip with a quinoa burger. I struggle with quinoa. You have three

:06:32. > :06:38.types today. Easy. I know little, I mean nothing, about Peruvian food.

:06:39. > :06:42.It's a pleasure to be here. What are we doing? If you could just finely

:06:43. > :06:48.chop that. Lovely red onion and garlic. That would be fantastic. I

:06:49. > :06:53.will make the quinoa burger. I'm using three types. This is white.

:06:54. > :06:58.Why three types? Do they have different textures or flavours?

:06:59. > :07:04.Yeah, just for crunchiness. The Ken Clarker one is nuttier. Is it a big

:07:05. > :07:09.ingredient? It's come about here over the last six years or so,

:07:10. > :07:13.starting getting popular. It's a fantastic ingredient. It's a super

:07:14. > :07:19.food. It's a grain groan in theed Andes of Peru and Bolivia. It's high

:07:20. > :07:25.in nutrients, high in protein. It's the complete protein. It's fat free,

:07:26. > :07:30.cholesterol free. All the good stuff, then. Just really fantastic.

:07:31. > :07:34.Great for blood, great for your brain, your body. Great for your

:07:35. > :07:38.immune system. I think the key really is to make sure that you buy

:07:39. > :07:43.the right quinoa that's come from a sustainable source. Check the label.

:07:44. > :07:48.But it's available pretty much in supermarkets. Yes health food shops

:07:49. > :07:53.and supermarkets as well. You can buy it precooked. A good idea? Nas

:07:54. > :07:58.good. Is it meaty? Yeah, yeah. We are going to add other flavours as

:07:59. > :08:05.well. We have the quinoa, we have boiled this. The darker quinoa 16

:08:06. > :08:11.minutes, 14 minutes and 12 minutes. You could eat this in a salad right?

:08:12. > :08:17.Yeah. Parmesan in there. It needs some help. It's going to. It needs a

:08:18. > :08:22.little help. A nice crunch to it. If you put that in, there we'll give it

:08:23. > :08:30.some help. I know my place exlam A little bit of olive -- I know my

:08:31. > :08:36.place! A bit of olive oil. It'sly, that's quite nice. Do you use it?

:08:37. > :08:41.Different things, we make a porridge with it. Quinoa, other grains and

:08:42. > :08:46.nuts and then make a porridge or we've been known to crust a fish

:08:47. > :08:53.with it, pan fried, crunchy and nutty. That sounds nice. It's very

:08:54. > :09:00.versatile. These are cassava. Look like parsnip. It's a root vegetable.

:09:01. > :09:04.We just boiled them beforehand. That's it. Now we're going to deep

:09:05. > :09:07.fry them. We don't need to do anything, they don't need drying or

:09:08. > :09:13.anything, straight into the friar? Yes, absolutely. Here, we're going

:09:14. > :09:21.to put, two different types of chillies here, native to Peru. Not

:09:22. > :09:27.only lovely quinoa, we have Amarillo chilli here. That's this baby here,

:09:28. > :09:32.beautiful. Native to Peru. Really aromatic. A hot chilli? It's

:09:33. > :09:39.slightly hot. But it's all about the aroma. Try this. This is a paste

:09:40. > :09:43.we've made from garlic and onion, just sauteing it. Oh, that's good!

:09:44. > :09:49.It's not hot. Just a little bit warm. That's right. Spicy. It's

:09:50. > :09:55.fragrant. What could you use, if you can't get those? We use just

:09:56. > :10:01.medium-strength red chilli and a yellow pepper. Just replace that.

:10:02. > :10:05.When we make our seviche, we do fantastic ones, we use that, for

:10:06. > :10:12.example, or when we make a lovely dish, a chicken dish, we use that as

:10:13. > :10:16.well. Yeah, adding to this as well, I'm going to use macca powder.

:10:17. > :10:24.Another ingredient I know nothing of. It comes from the macaa root.

:10:25. > :10:29.It's another super food. Nothing to do with the Beatles. But I'm sure

:10:30. > :10:35.Paul would love this. It's a root, high in protein, high in minerals,

:10:36. > :10:40.really, really good for you. Is this typical of what you serve in your

:10:41. > :10:44.restaurant? You have a couple of restaurants. We just opened a new

:10:45. > :10:49.restaurant. Tons of vegetarian dishes, healthy dishes. It's a real

:10:50. > :10:57.homage to the food of the Andes of Peru. My grandmother was a native.

:10:58. > :11:01.Is it naturally vegetarian? No, no. We use tons of fish, obviously for

:11:02. > :11:05.all our seafood dishes, we're on the coast. We have the Pacific Ocean

:11:06. > :11:13.that's so powerful and full of gorgeous fish there. We've got lots

:11:14. > :11:19.of lovely meat. We even use alpaca, beef and lamb. Does that taste like?

:11:20. > :11:24.It's lean and gorgeous. It's such a vast country. Presumably there's a

:11:25. > :11:28.big difference in the food and styles from one end to the other.

:11:29. > :11:34.That's right. Because of the different influences, you know, not

:11:35. > :11:39.only do we have cuisine from the Incas, quinoa came from them, 5,000

:11:40. > :11:44.years ago, quinoa has been made, grown in Peru and in the Andes. But

:11:45. > :11:47.then with the migration of Spanish, Italian, Chinese, Japanese and

:11:48. > :11:53.African people, all these guys have left their mark on our cuisine.

:11:54. > :11:57.That's kind of the most versatile, broad and delicious. Where does this

:11:58. > :12:03.passion for food come from, because you started life in a very different

:12:04. > :12:07.way. I started life, I guess, making music and doing events with music

:12:08. > :12:12.and food. You're breezing over this. You're a bit of a superstar DJ

:12:13. > :12:16.weren't you in the 90s. I used to DJ and create events with music and I

:12:17. > :12:21.worked for different companies with music as well. I've always loved it.

:12:22. > :12:25.I always loved cooking as well. A few years ago, just went, stop

:12:26. > :12:30.talking about it and just do it. So I sold my house and I started to

:12:31. > :12:35.cook and make supper clubs and then open our restaurant. That is a big

:12:36. > :12:40.passionment Yeah -- Passion. I said, "Let's go for it. Stop talking about

:12:41. > :12:46.it. Just get on with it and do it." Never looked back? With the support

:12:47. > :12:51.of my wife and kids, we went for it. Now we're just patting this round. I

:12:52. > :12:59.make a little ball. I'm perily going on here, is this -- perily merrily

:13:00. > :13:08.going on here. I have salt and lime in there. Yeah and if you could put

:13:09. > :13:18.coriander. And lime and olive oil. How much? Just a few sprigs. I'm --

:13:19. > :13:24.These are the chips. They look good. Drain those a sec. These are going

:13:25. > :13:30.in the fridge. They should go there just to cool down. They look great.

:13:31. > :13:38.They were par boiled, right? Yes. Just par boil and then fried. I

:13:39. > :13:42.thought they'd look quite, mush down. No, they're going to be really

:13:43. > :13:47.tasty. They're fantastic with all kinds of food as well. They look

:13:48. > :13:59.amazing. Coriander. If you'd like to put a question to Martin or Alyn,

:14:00. > :14:05.call us: Calls are charged at your standard network rate. We are just

:14:06. > :14:16.going to make the sauce. There's a lot going on here. There's a herb

:14:17. > :14:21.sauce that I've made. Coriander, basil, tar gone and mint. --

:14:22. > :14:28.tarragon and mint. Oh, that's good. Bit of salt. What's

:14:29. > :14:38.it going in with? This is going in with some milk, look at that.

:14:39. > :14:47.Ancient recipe. Crackers? Really. This is the sauce that we're using,

:14:48. > :14:54.we're making an ocopa sauce. That's from a city in the mountains of

:14:55. > :15:01.Peru. So a lot of textures and, I don't know, it's kind of

:15:02. > :15:08.traditionally quite poor ingredients? Is it all from the

:15:09. > :15:11.mountains? Well, sometimes the Amazon. Sometimes the Andes,

:15:12. > :15:15.sometimes the coast. But the key thing is because in Peru we have so

:15:16. > :15:19.many regions and altitudes, particularly the altitudes, that's

:15:20. > :15:27.where you get all these wonderful different ingredients. So the

:15:28. > :15:32.Peruvian regarder is so rich. A lot of ingredients we cook with today

:15:33. > :15:41.originate there. The beans, types of beans, tomato, potato. Imagine

:15:42. > :15:46.potato 3,500 varieties, 2,500 come from Peru. Fantastic ingredients.

:15:47. > :15:49.It's a huge ware that we've -- huge area that we've ignored for a long

:15:50. > :15:56.time. Are there other countries outside of Peru that have embraced

:15:57. > :16:05.it? Peruvian food, there's an explosion going on around the world.

:16:06. > :16:09.Try this. This is a kind of salt. Do we need to cook these burgers?

:16:10. > :16:15.They're going to cook, a couple of minutes. I get them in? This is salt

:16:16. > :16:21.from the south of the country. We are going to put a bit of oil, a

:16:22. > :16:27.lovely oil. Where are these going now? Deep fry them, that would be

:16:28. > :16:32.great. It's important that you let them set for a short time? Yeah.

:16:33. > :16:40.Just in the fridge 45 minutes, that will do. Is your restaurant reg

:16:41. > :16:44.environ or meat as well? -- vegetarian or meat as well? About

:16:45. > :16:48.50% vegetarian, just by luck in a way, because we love vegetarian

:16:49. > :16:53.dishes. We love cooking with vegetables. There are lovely meat

:16:54. > :16:58.and fish dishes as well. Is there mint going in this? A bit of mint

:16:59. > :17:03.and a couple of tablespoons of yoghurt. Got parmesan in this, which

:17:04. > :17:09.doesn't strictly make it vegetarian, but you could leave that out could

:17:10. > :17:12.you? Yes, of course. You still get the same effect. It's beautiful

:17:13. > :17:19.aromas coming from all of this, I have to say.

:17:20. > :17:23.What is going in here? Yoghurt? Yeah. Just enough to bring it

:17:24. > :17:33.together? Yeah. Could you chop up tarragon as well. OK. Quite a busy

:17:34. > :17:48.little dish, this, isn't it? Quinoa is the official pronunciation is it?

:17:49. > :18:03.Yes. I always say keen-o-ah. But it sounds like keen-wah. Sounds like an

:18:04. > :18:15.after shave. In Peru we say keen-o-wa. That's enough. That's

:18:16. > :18:20.lovely. Can you get yuck NAMA here? -- yucca here? Yeah, you can get it

:18:21. > :18:30.frozen as well or whole. We are going to build the - thank you very

:18:31. > :18:34.much. Burgers ready. Lovely. This is a real customer favourite. Is this

:18:35. > :18:38.always on at the restaurant? Absolutely. It's been a hit since we

:18:39. > :18:44.opened, this particular dish, that's why I thought, hey, it's loved,

:18:45. > :18:48.people tell us it's as good as a meat burger. People tell us they've

:18:49. > :18:53.been waiting for the right veggie burger for years. I'm building it

:18:54. > :18:57.up, so I hope you like it! I'm intrigued. Then we're going to

:18:58. > :19:08.add... I've never embraced vegetarian food, I have to say or

:19:09. > :19:12.quinoa. A little bit of the salsa here. A tiny bit on top. You're very

:19:13. > :19:17.brave doing this dish in seven minutes or whatever. It's quite a

:19:18. > :19:21.lot going on. Beautiful.

:19:22. > :19:33.Remind us what that is. Quinoa burger from the Andes and here

:19:34. > :19:39.there's yucca and ocopa sauce. Shall we go and see what these guys think.

:19:40. > :19:42.Were you following all that? I was. I was interested you said

:19:43. > :19:53.sustainable quinoa. We're going to need some wine to go

:19:54. > :19:55.with this. We sent our expert Susy Atkins to the West Country in her

:19:56. > :20:08.wellies this week. I'm in Gloucester's historic docks

:20:09. > :20:18.where the wind is whipping up the waves. It's time for me to create a

:20:19. > :20:22.storm by choosing the wines for today's dishes. Martin, there is no

:20:23. > :20:26.reason at all why your wonderful quinoa burger can't be matched with

:20:27. > :20:32.a red wine, just as long as it's something fairly soft and smooth and

:20:33. > :20:36.fresh, no heavy tannins. A wine like this pinot noir from New Zealand,

:20:37. > :20:40.for example. Given the yoghurt dressing, this calls out for a

:20:41. > :20:48.while. I'm staying in the Southern Hemisphere, but shifting to Chile.

:20:49. > :20:53.The wine I've chosen is Leyda Single Vineyard Sauvignon Blanc 2013.

:20:54. > :20:57.Chile's newly emerged wine regions are fascinating. This is from the

:20:58. > :21:02.Leyda valley. It's a highly tipped area. It's planted by the Pacific,

:21:03. > :21:07.so it's a cool climate. This is a highly perfumed wine. It's throwing

:21:08. > :21:18.out wonderful aromas of goosebury, grape fruit and passion fruit --

:21:19. > :21:24.gooseberry. This has lots of zingy acidity and a grassy note. That's

:21:25. > :21:28.spot on for matching the tomato, coriander, and lime juice in the

:21:29. > :21:36.salsa and the fruit in the yoghurt dressing. This wine, like all new

:21:37. > :21:41.world sauvignonblanc is forceful, it has enough character to take on the

:21:42. > :21:47.quinoaburgering, the cassava chips and the ocopa dip. On this rainy

:21:48. > :21:50.week, the flavours of your quinoa burger have been like a ray of

:21:51. > :21:56.sunshine. Hers a bright spark of a -- here's a bright spark of a wine

:21:57. > :22:04.to go with it. Cheers! How's the wine? Delicious. Mine's gone! I

:22:05. > :22:08.would rather a Peruvian one with it. But this is OK. This goes really

:22:09. > :22:12.well. How's the burger? Terrific. I love particularly this dressing,

:22:13. > :22:18.tarragon is always a winner. The chips are amazing. Interesting,

:22:19. > :22:22.yeah. What do you think? Delicious, packed with flavour. You wouldn't

:22:23. > :22:28.miss meat whatsoever. That's the idea. Sometimes when you get

:22:29. > :22:35.vegetarian food or what's that thing, buy why theic food -- biotic

:22:36. > :22:39.food, it looks like it, but it isn't. This looks like it, but it

:22:40. > :22:44.isn't. We don't try to make something that's meaty, we try to

:22:45. > :22:48.give respect to the ingredients. Let's catch up with Rick Stein stien

:22:49. > :22:52.as he travels around India searching for the perfect curry.

:22:53. > :23:12.There's a fantastic mix of foods to try.

:23:13. > :23:22.Something about a curry that's all pervading.

:23:23. > :23:28.Zbli feel I've been transported somewhere, maybe on the French

:23:29. > :23:51.Riviera and I'm warming to the idea a nice cold glass of rose. This is

:23:52. > :23:59.town three hours drive along the East Coast road, south of Madras. It

:24:00. > :24:07.used to be the jewel in France's Indian crown. The churches twinkle

:24:08. > :24:10.in the sunshine, they look freshly built. The roads are wide and the

:24:11. > :24:32.street signs acknowledge three centuries of French rule.

:24:33. > :24:47.I wanted to taste a fusion of French and Tamil cuisine. They call it

:24:48. > :24:51.creole here. A friend of mine suggested this place, this hotel,

:24:52. > :25:00.that prides itself in this fusion of taste. And so, the speciality on the

:25:01. > :25:09.menu is... Salted lemon pickle prawn. Ashok, in the chefs whites,

:25:10. > :25:16.showed me how it's done. Saute ginger, garlic and allots, they add

:25:17. > :25:21.sliced courgettes and then plump prawns, which I imagine came off the

:25:22. > :25:27.fishing boat only hours ago on a bea niche. -- nearby. Next a pinch of

:25:28. > :25:32.pickled lemons, an influence that spreads all the way from north

:25:33. > :25:43.Africa, where the French dominated. And then some garam masala. Now the

:25:44. > :25:51.dried, almost proconvenient Saul Don Provencal herbs, rosemary and thyme.

:25:52. > :25:57.I'm keen to try this shallot. Please. I mean, I can taste the

:25:58. > :26:05.olive oil, the garam masala, but very nice dish. It's a real fusion

:26:06. > :26:09.actually. Really S -- is. I think it's fair to say that Gandhi's

:26:10. > :26:14.peaceful mission to boycott all things British in the early 1900s,

:26:15. > :26:19.would have gone down extremely well with the French here. Maybe, that's

:26:20. > :26:25.why the people here erected this massive statue in his honour. Gandhi

:26:26. > :26:30.came from an upper middle class family in Gujurat and was an

:26:31. > :26:33.intellectual. Before his famous passive resistance, where he

:26:34. > :26:39.inspired the independence movement, he actually went to the UK to study

:26:40. > :26:45.law and as a strict vegetarian couldn't really find anything to

:26:46. > :26:50.eat. Apart from what he had at his land ladies, boiled cabbage, Poe

:26:51. > :26:54.Tato, bread -- potato, bread, cake, jam and cups of tea. He did finally

:26:55. > :26:59.discover he could cook from Indian shops in London, for himself,

:27:00. > :27:04.vegetarian food. But the only British dish he really liked was

:27:05. > :27:08.porridge. In honour of Gandhi's passion for all things veggie, back

:27:09. > :27:12.at my house on the edge of the lagoon, I'm going to cook my

:27:13. > :27:19.favourite vegetable curry. A occur I could eat for breakfast every day.

:27:20. > :27:35.I'm now going to make aloo dum, or I'm going to call it aloo muttar.

:27:36. > :27:40.You get it everywhere. You have aloo dum with everything. First of all

:27:41. > :27:46.saute par boiled potatoes in mustard oil. You don't need any longer than

:27:47. > :27:53.five minutes. Then a sprinkle of turmeric to give it a golden glow.

:27:54. > :28:00.Stir that in and put to one side. Add a little more oil. Now some

:28:01. > :28:03.Indian bay leaves. It's not worth using European bay leaves, if you

:28:04. > :28:09.haven't got these don't bother about. It they have a slight flavour

:28:10. > :28:16.of cinnamon, so if haven't got them, it might be an idea to put an inch

:28:17. > :28:22.or so of cinnamon in here. Just a tiny bit of asafoetida, very

:28:23. > :28:28.pungent, but as the Indians say, if it's not there, you notice. It To

:28:29. > :28:37.compliment that, an -- and enhance the dish further, I add freshly made

:28:38. > :28:41.paste of onion, garlic and ginger. And now, some powders. I say

:28:42. > :28:51.powders, but I have actually ground these up. Teaspoon of chilli powder.

:28:52. > :28:59.Teaspoon of coriander. A teaspoon of cumin powder. Now quite an unusual

:29:00. > :29:05.ingredient, which is called amchoor, which is actually dried mango, half

:29:06. > :29:12.a teaspoon. It's very concentrated. Now a little bit more turmeric; then

:29:13. > :29:16.some salt. Now quite a lot of tomato. I've bought tomato and

:29:17. > :29:21.whizzed them up in the processor. They're so good here, that you don't

:29:22. > :29:24.really need to buy tinned tomatoes, you probably couldn't buy them any

:29:25. > :29:28.way. Next sliced green chillies. I like a bit of heat in my food, so

:29:29. > :29:37.I've kept the seeds in. A splash more water to keep it moist. Now the

:29:38. > :29:42.potatoes. That is looking so nice and may I suggest that next time you

:29:43. > :29:55.go down to your local Indian, if you don't do this already, make sure you

:29:56. > :29:59.order aloo dum, potatoes, or aloo mattar, which is with the peas.

:30:00. > :30:04.You'll be so glad you did. Garam masala, about a teaspoon. Very often

:30:05. > :30:08.in Indian dishes you end the dish with some garam masala, but you

:30:09. > :30:13.might start it with that as well. The point of it going in at the end

:30:14. > :30:19.is it just gives all that spiciness a real lift. Off with a sprinkle of

:30:20. > :30:28.freshly chopped coriander and by the way, that amchoor gives a real sour

:30:29. > :30:32.zest. There it is. What do you think of that?

:30:33. > :30:38.That looked great. There are loads of vegetarian Indian dishes to try.

:30:39. > :30:41.However, if you're not a fan of Indian food, then I thought I'd show

:30:42. > :30:44.you another delicious vegetarian dish that prove that's meat-free

:30:45. > :30:51.doesn't have to be flavour-free. Yes, it's vegetable tempura with a

:30:52. > :30:56.spicy dressing using this yuzu juice. Are you familiar with that?

:30:57. > :31:02.You can buy it in shops now. Do you use it? Yes, in some recipes. It's

:31:03. > :31:10.very citrusy, like a bit Graham fruit. Yeah a -- A big grape fruit.

:31:11. > :31:15.A limey grape fruit. I'm going to crack on with this. The tempura,

:31:16. > :31:19.basically, a bit of plain flour, cornflour, that will lighten the

:31:20. > :31:23.batter. A bit of salt in there. Sparkling water. That was a huge

:31:24. > :31:29.amount of salt. Was a pinch of salt. OK. That's what's going wrong with

:31:30. > :31:35.my cooking cooking then. What you need more salt. No, you don't. A bit

:31:36. > :31:39.of sparkling water, the carbon dioxide will lift the batter. You

:31:40. > :31:43.want to do this last minute really so it's nice and light. If you have

:31:44. > :31:47.pockets of flour, leave those because when you dip those into the

:31:48. > :31:51.friar, they kind of explode and make it night and light. Bit of

:31:52. > :31:57.vegetables going in there. Now Alastair, we know you from your

:31:58. > :32:01.impressions obviously. But you've gone back to your acting roots.

:32:02. > :32:08.Yeah, that's right. We're just finally finishing off our rehearsals

:32:09. > :32:13.of Pygmalion, which tours for 16 weeks. We start in Cambridge and go

:32:14. > :32:17.around the country. It's one of those epic tours? Yeah Coventry,

:32:18. > :32:21.Milton Keynes, Plymouth and Norwich, Canterbury, yeah, 16 weeks, a week

:32:22. > :32:25.in each place. Look forward to that? That's pretty gruelling. It is

:32:26. > :32:30.pretty gruelling. It's eight shows a week. Which a lot of people who

:32:31. > :32:34.don't know theatre always think - there's only seven days in the week.

:32:35. > :32:41.We do two matinees and one day off and that's often a travel day as

:32:42. > :32:45.well. What character do you play? Henry Higgins. It's a part I've

:32:46. > :32:52.always wanted to play really. Ever since I saw - Pygmalion is basically

:32:53. > :32:58.the play on which my fair lady, the musical, was based. It seemed to be

:32:59. > :33:07.everywhere. You've been in it before? Yeah. Same character? Yeah

:33:08. > :33:13.played Henry Higgins. Ruer Evere -- Rupert Everett did it, but he

:33:14. > :33:18.couldn't finish the last few shows. But it's a massive script. Did you

:33:19. > :33:22.stand in at the last minute? Yeah, yeah. This is sounding horribly

:33:23. > :33:30.familiar. Whole spring onions in here. Dip lightly in the batter.

:33:31. > :33:37.These will take no time at all. Can't avoid using your fingers.

:33:38. > :33:41.Mangetout, courgettes, purple sprouting broccoli. Try not to Drog

:33:42. > :33:45.it all in the friar at once. You want a bit of separation. If you

:33:46. > :33:50.haven't got a friar like that, how -- fryer like that, how would you do

:33:51. > :33:56.it? In hay wok. Fill it up -- a wok. Fill it up with oil. I haven't got a

:33:57. > :34:04.wok. You may want to do something else. Do another recipe. So, let's

:34:05. > :34:08.put those in. There I think that's probably enough. It's only you

:34:09. > :34:14.eating it. Who else in the cast, your wife is working? Yeah my wife,

:34:15. > :34:20.Charlotte, she's mainly done a lot of opera and light opera, this is

:34:21. > :34:24.her first straight role. She's playing my house keeper. It's art

:34:25. > :34:34.imitating life. Oh, that will go down well? And RulaLenska, she plays

:34:35. > :34:42.my mother. Jamie Foreman, who was in EastEnders, playing dot Cotton's

:34:43. > :34:51.stepson for a long time. If they're EastEnders' fans, they'll recognise

:34:52. > :34:54.him. That's you doing Dot. And playing Eliza, is Rachel Barry, who

:34:55. > :34:58.is fantastic. This could be the first of many, many big things that

:34:59. > :35:02.she does. She's very impressive and great to work with. Doing

:35:03. > :35:06.impressions, it's not one of those things that maybe your in school and

:35:07. > :35:09.you go to your careers advisor and say, this is the sort of thing I

:35:10. > :35:14.want to get into. How did it come about? Did it trip out one day? Did

:35:15. > :35:18.you find you were good at it? I was always interested in voices, like

:35:19. > :35:22.Henry Higgins is, which is why it's a pleasure to do this part. It's

:35:23. > :35:27.like playing myself. Always interested in voices, ah, sents and

:35:28. > :35:32.why people spoke -- accents and why people spoke the way they do. I

:35:33. > :35:35.remember after 1980 FA Cup Final, Trevor brooking had scored the

:35:36. > :35:39.winning goal and he said, "It was a rare header and the ball came across

:35:40. > :35:44.to me, scored the winning goal... " It just came out. We thought it was

:35:45. > :35:47.hillarious my Danned me. It branched -- my dad and me. It branched out

:35:48. > :35:52.-- my dad and me. It branchedout out then. He make you do it to all

:35:53. > :35:56.his mates. No, then it developed. I know you're from Monmouth and I was

:35:57. > :36:02.on tour doing a stand-up show, just about to be put on YouTube. Good

:36:03. > :36:08.plug. In Monmouth, I bloodied my Terry Griffiths impression, "I don't

:36:09. > :36:11.know if you know Terry, snooker commentator. The people of Monmouth

:36:12. > :36:16.seemed to like it very, very much. Poor Terry always sounds so

:36:17. > :36:21.depressed when he's commentating on the smocker as he calls it. --

:36:22. > :36:28.snooker and he calls it." There are voices that you can't do, tones and

:36:29. > :36:33.pitches? Yeah, definitely. I've been looking at Chris Packham recently.

:36:34. > :36:39.My wife said to me, oh, you should do him. But his voice is very high

:36:40. > :36:43.for me to do. So you are excluded a little bit. Do you look at other

:36:44. > :36:47.impressionists and say, oh, that's really good. I try not to watch

:36:48. > :36:49.others. The thing is you start to do their impression. And also, it's

:36:50. > :36:55.lovely to do somebody first because you have the first take on them.

:36:56. > :36:58.Somebody like Nigel Slater for instance, he's a chef, "Nigel is a

:36:59. > :37:04.chef who I follow quite a lot, regularly. That's very good. Nigel

:37:05. > :37:07.is somebody who I think I'm the first person to have done. That's

:37:08. > :37:12.more exciting than doing something... " I love that! Can you

:37:13. > :37:18.do Jamie? I can't. No. One the people who I really struggled with

:37:19. > :37:26.for a long time was Raymond Blanc. He sounded like Heidi Weng. When I

:37:27. > :37:29.did -- ArseneWenger. One day I realised what he does "He speaks

:37:30. > :37:36.from the top of his mouth like this, OK. He talks to the roof of his

:37:37. > :37:39.mouth OK. It's very deep as well. From the top of his mouth sometimes.

:37:40. > :37:44.That's the secret to doing Raymond, in case you ever need to do it."

:37:45. > :37:50.Have you ever done it in front of the actual person? Weirdly Raymond,

:37:51. > :37:56.he does these won dearly Christmas carol -- wonderful Christmas carol

:37:57. > :38:01.concerts. He reacted like no-one else has ever reacted. Badly. I

:38:02. > :38:06.couldn't work it out. "He went, this impression, I don't know, it's not,

:38:07. > :38:12.naughty. Don't do good impression. I don't think - is that how I. Oh, no,

:38:13. > :38:17.no, no. You must leave now OK." I didn't know if he like today or not.

:38:18. > :38:25.It went down well then. It called a stir. What's going on here now.

:38:26. > :38:37.Cooking. Right. Very light batter. It's just barely -- it just barely

:38:38. > :38:46.coats the vegetable. A friend of my crazy -- a friend of mine is Kaysy

:38:47. > :38:52.for tempura. -- crazy for tempura. She's tempura crazy. This is just a

:38:53. > :39:01.dressing. You were adding a lot of that. I had four eggs. A little bit

:39:02. > :39:06.of that, to be honest. Do you keep the whites. Have you kept the whites

:39:07. > :39:09.for my her annings. Of course we can use those in another dish. If I'm

:39:10. > :39:14.cooking... Or if you have too many put them in the bin. I can never

:39:15. > :39:17.waste food. They keep. They freeze really well. There you go. That is

:39:18. > :39:27.it. Tuck in. That's the tempura vegetables. A bit of coriander cress

:39:28. > :39:33.on top. I love coriander. What is that? Carrot. It's a fat carrot. I

:39:34. > :39:37.slice today thinly. -- I sliced it thinly. It had to cook in two

:39:38. > :39:42.minutes. That's an important point. Everything has to cook in the same

:39:43. > :39:47.time. That's nice. Beautiful. That's lucky. What will being cook at the

:39:48. > :39:51.end of the show. It could be Food Heaven, a modern take on a lemon

:39:52. > :39:56.meringue pie. I make my lemon curd cream and serve it on a light lemon

:39:57. > :39:59.sponge with meringue shards and dried lemon slices on top.

:40:00. > :40:03.Different, but delicious, I can assure you. Or Alastair could face

:40:04. > :40:09.hell, pork. I will grill a porkchop and then serve it with red cabbage

:40:10. > :40:16.and mint salad, tossed in Thai-style dressing, with ginger, chilli and

:40:17. > :40:20.lots aibs flavours -- Asian flavours. You'll have to wait until

:40:21. > :40:28.the end of the show to see the final result. Right, good?? Yes. It's time

:40:29. > :40:58.to see how the Celebrity MasterChef hopefuls get on when they face their

:40:59. > :41:03.mass catering task. Kingston University has over 25,000

:41:04. > :41:24.students studying a range of subject including law, business and nursing.

:41:25. > :41:30.Welcome to Kingston University. Today you four are going to serve

:41:31. > :41:36.lunch for over 120 people. We're going to split you into two teams.

:41:37. > :41:43.The teams are Ade and Denise. Hooray. And John and Philips. You

:41:44. > :41:49.four have got a massive challenge, feed these students something

:41:50. > :41:53.decent. Feed their brains. Lunch is at 1. 15, don't be late because our

:41:54. > :42:00.students have lectures to go to. Good luck.

:42:01. > :42:03.Off you go. The teams have two-and-a-half hours

:42:04. > :42:09.to prepare and cook their dishes under the guide abs of -- guidance

:42:10. > :42:12.of the head chef. At Kingston we have a very high standard and that

:42:13. > :42:17.standard needs to be maintained today. In front of you we have a

:42:18. > :42:21.range of ingredients. You have to prepare your men up from the

:42:22. > :42:33.ingredients you see in -- menu from the ingredients you see in front of

:42:34. > :42:39.you. Good luck. Thank you. The ingrowed yents the teams have to

:42:40. > :42:45.choose from include minced beef, chicken fillets, cheeses, past NAMA

:42:46. > :42:52.and a selection of bread. There is also a choice of vegetables and

:42:53. > :43:02.fruit. As well as a range of spices, dried fruit and meringues.

:43:03. > :43:08.We could make ratatouille past NAMA for a veggie. Each team will have to

:43:09. > :43:15.cook 40 portions of a meat main course, 30 portions of a vegetarian

:43:16. > :43:22.main course and 60 portions of dessert. We haven't got any

:43:23. > :43:26.puddings. Let's do one. Jorn and fill ps have decided on

:43:27. > :43:32.their menu and make a start on their dishes. Chillies. Yeah got them.

:43:33. > :43:37.They're mild ones. For the vegetarian, a ratatouille past NAMA

:43:38. > :43:48.bake and then for -- past NAMA bake, and then -- pasta bake and our wrap

:43:49. > :43:52.is a mixed berry Pavlova with a berry sauce. I need within the next

:43:53. > :43:58.two minutes to make a decision. Yeah. We are cutting ourselves short

:43:59. > :44:06.of time now. Joo-Ho we have to go with the chicken fajitas. A little

:44:07. > :44:11.hot with some chilli. We've got a bit of chilli going on over here as

:44:12. > :44:16.well. LAUGHTER

:44:17. > :44:22.That's what happens in a kitchen. You have to be quick. We can't even

:44:23. > :44:28.have chilli? No. Maybe you could come to some arrangement. We could

:44:29. > :44:32.ask the guy it's they could -- guys if they could change their

:44:33. > :44:43.vegetarian. Something like a chicken, bacon and mushroom past

:44:44. > :44:50.NAMA bake. -- pasta bake. We need to take the pasta out of the

:44:51. > :44:54.vegetarian. You could do a ratatouille with goat's cheese. A

:44:55. > :44:58.bit of a trade-off, is that right? Yeah. We have to move it now.

:44:59. > :45:26.Because we've lost a lot of time there.

:45:27. > :45:30.Ade and Denise have finally decided on their menu. Ade will be in charge

:45:31. > :45:33.of making a chicken, bacon and mushroom pasta, and Denise will make

:45:34. > :45:40.a cheesy vegetable bake. But first, they begin work together to make a

:45:41. > :45:44.bread-and-butter pudding. If I do that and you do the second half, we

:45:45. > :45:50.can... And we can get it in the oven. And that's sorted. Ade makes a

:45:51. > :46:00.start on prepping the chicken filling etc for his main. Denise

:46:01. > :46:03.adds the custard to her bread for the pudding. Is that your

:46:04. > :46:09.pedestrianing? Yeah. -- pudding. Yeah. That looks good. Is that

:46:10. > :46:15.enough? It's not really 60 porss. Is it? Rbgs portions is it. -- portions

:46:16. > :46:24.is it? I reckon you need another tray of that. Do you why? Yeah. We

:46:25. > :46:28.have one hour for service. John and Philips have nearly finished cooking

:46:29. > :46:37.their chilli beef. How's that tasting now? Awful. Awful? Yeah. It

:46:38. > :46:49.needs a tin of tomatoes in it. Awful. It tastes of nothing. Maybe

:46:50. > :47:02.more buion in it -- bouillon in it. Yeah, good idea. Let's taste it now.

:47:03. > :47:07.Better. With time running out, Denise is making an eight-litre

:47:08. > :47:12.batch of white sauce to use in her cheesy bake and Ade estate agency

:47:13. > :47:16.chicken pasta dish. Have you got the vegetables done yet? No, nothing.

:47:17. > :47:21.I've been here the whole time. I have to fry up onions, leeks, I

:47:22. > :47:26.haven't even looked over there. With only 45 minutes left. Denise finally

:47:27. > :47:32.makes a start on the vegetables for her dish.

:47:33. > :47:38.I'm a little bit, would like Ade who is just doing his thing to come and

:47:39. > :47:43.help me. We have promise from Ade and Denise,

:47:44. > :47:47.we have wonderful bread and butter puddings. My concern right now for

:47:48. > :47:57.them is their ability to be able to get the main courses cooked on time.

:47:58. > :48:00.Philips starts to whip the cream for his team's meringue and berry

:48:01. > :48:10.dessert. How are we getting on with that cream? Whip it good, man. Whip

:48:11. > :48:12.it. So a layer of meringue, berries and cream, layer of meringue. Cheers

:48:13. > :48:22.man, thanks. You can see if the celebrities get

:48:23. > :48:26.lunch out on time in about 20 minutes. Let's get on with the

:48:27. > :48:30.cooking. Up next is the brilliant and Michelin-starred Alyn Williams.

:48:31. > :48:35.What are you making today? We have got chicken, thighs. We are going to

:48:36. > :48:42.marinade these in buttermilk. Typically I would do this overnight.

:48:43. > :48:46.So I have some that I have already marinaded. You can cut the baby gem

:48:47. > :48:54.in half. Cut the radishes in half. And then if we have sourdough bread

:48:55. > :48:58.that we're making croutons with. Where did this come from, it's very

:48:59. > :49:04.American. It is. I lived in America for a while. I did several ski

:49:05. > :49:08.seasons. I lived in Colorado. I really got into, certainly things

:49:09. > :49:11.like really tasty American food, things like the fried chicken, the

:49:12. > :49:17.dressing that we're making today is a ranch dressing, which I think is

:49:18. > :49:21.my favourite in the world. Just really aromatic and really tangy and

:49:22. > :49:25.tasty. This is not typical of what you serve, though is it? It's not

:49:26. > :49:31.typical of what I'd serve. It's the sort of thing I'd like to cook at

:49:32. > :49:35.home, the sort of thing I'd enjoy to eat with the kids. You're quite big

:49:36. > :49:39.into your vegetarian men use and what have you at the -- menus, and

:49:40. > :49:44.what have you at the restaurant? That's right. We have a dedicated

:49:45. > :49:49.vegetarian menu, tasting and a la carte menu. Do you get a lot of

:49:50. > :49:55.vegetarians or people that... Loads. Just fancy meat-free? Loads of veg

:49:56. > :50:01.tarns -- vegetarians. We have quite a reputation for our menus. So we

:50:02. > :50:05.have a lot of people coming, full tables of vegetarians. Not just the

:50:06. > :50:09.odd one. We will have a table of five and they are all vegetarian. Do

:50:10. > :50:14.you find that hard? I think you have to work harder with vegetarian food?

:50:15. > :50:18.Not really. It's just about expanding your mind, really. Because

:50:19. > :50:24.there's so many vegetables. So many things you can use. The repertoire

:50:25. > :50:28.of ingredients is vast. We saw that with Martin, what he cooked earlier.

:50:29. > :50:32.It's just about not restricting yourself to meat and fish and not

:50:33. > :50:38.relying on that protein to inspire you. How did that come about? My

:50:39. > :50:43.wife's vegetarian. Oh, right. Bless her. Did you know that when you met

:50:44. > :50:48.her? I didn't, not the first time, other-wise I may not have spoken to

:50:49. > :50:53.her. But she soon turned me round. We used to go out to really nice

:50:54. > :50:57.restaurants often, and she would always come away disappointed

:50:58. > :51:06.because quite often, chefs wouldn't pay too much attention to the

:51:07. > :51:10.vegetarian dishes. Presumably she's now spoiled. She just comes to my

:51:11. > :51:16.restaurant now. We have another one now. We can go to Seviche. A lot of

:51:17. > :51:22.fish, meat and well, but yeah, we love our vegetables. A lot of quorn

:51:23. > :51:27.dishes, gorgeous. What I have here, I've made, this is

:51:28. > :51:34.a dredge, basically I have got, I have marinaded the chicken in the

:51:35. > :51:39.buttermilk. The acids and enzymes break down the protein. It's acidic.

:51:40. > :51:44.Very. It breaks down the protein of the chicken or any meat really that

:51:45. > :51:49.you... How long do you marinade it for? Overnight. I marinade it

:51:50. > :51:56.overnight. It becomes super tender. Just dredge that in this, it's a mix

:51:57. > :52:01.of flour. I have gram flour, chickpea flour. Use that? I find

:52:02. > :52:08.chickpea flour is a nice, light, crunchy. It's not heavy like regular

:52:09. > :52:11.flour. But I have got celery salt and garlic powder and onion powder

:52:12. > :52:15.as well. There's a lot of flavour, loads of taste. What were you doing

:52:16. > :52:21.in the States? Were you cooking? I did cook. I was a chalet boy in a

:52:22. > :52:28.ski resort. Really? In Colorado, yeah. Are you a big skier? I'm a

:52:29. > :52:32.snowboarder, yeah one of them. OK, that's a bit a dirty word. It is. I

:52:33. > :52:37.like it though. Always try to take me out when I'm skiing. Could have

:52:38. > :52:44.been me. Do you make a point of it? I try. I do my best. Are you letting

:52:45. > :52:49.it down for all snowboarders everywhere. I'm going to season that

:52:50. > :52:53.lightly. A bit of salt in there. And in here, so I have got breadcrumbs

:52:54. > :52:58.in there. They're going to go in with the lettuce as well. With the

:52:59. > :53:03.lettuce I have a bit of olive oil, just a tiny bit of butter. Just to

:53:04. > :53:09.get it nice and brown. I'm going to season the lettuce. What I do is

:53:10. > :53:13.season through the leaves. I pull the leaves out and I put the salt in

:53:14. > :53:22.between the leaves. You end up with a much tastier lettuce there. You

:53:23. > :53:26.are layering it up. Yeah. My butter has melted now. What I want is to

:53:27. > :53:30.get colour on one side and that roasted flavour in there, but I

:53:31. > :53:37.don't want to completely cook the lettuce. I want it crunchy as well.

:53:38. > :53:47.Don't want to burn these. Now, all today's studio recipes, including

:53:48. > :53:50.this one, are on the website. Bbc.co.uk/Saturday Kitchen.

:53:51. > :53:54.Chicken's looking good. Shall I lift it? You can. Let it rest for a

:53:55. > :53:59.minute and pop it back in and crisp it up again. This is my ranch

:54:00. > :54:07.dressing, which is... What's in that? It's 50/50 sour cream and nay

:54:08. > :54:15.nays. So half-and-half. And then I have -- mayonaisse. I have garlic

:54:16. > :54:22.powder, onion powder, smoked paprika. Lots of the spices. Yeah

:54:23. > :54:28.and herbs. Lots of black pepper and lots of dill. That's the essential

:54:29. > :54:36.herb ingredient that you put into a ranch dressing. Those dressings I've

:54:37. > :54:43.seen in American cook books, they're heavy on dried ingredients, a lot of

:54:44. > :54:48.dried herbs and spices. They like things like dried dill, they like

:54:49. > :54:55.cinnamon. They like these sort of flavours. Fairly pronounced

:54:56. > :54:59.flavours. The croutons are ready. Is it southern type of dish, yeah, a

:55:00. > :55:03.southern dressing? Yeah, well ranch dressing, I think originated in the

:55:04. > :55:10.south. But it's one of those things that's hugely popular, that it's

:55:11. > :55:21.everywhere. Vinegar too. Are you done with the herbs? Yes, I am. Now

:55:22. > :55:26.the croutons in there. Chicken looks good. We can drain those off in a

:55:27. > :55:30.second. I have parsley going in there. This becomes a bit of a

:55:31. > :55:40.dressing as well. Some lemon juice with them. Looks like a very famous

:55:41. > :55:44.chicken restaurant chicken. Does it? Which is a good thing. Wouldn't like

:55:45. > :55:52.to say that. Good thing. That's what you want to recreate at home. Little

:55:53. > :55:58.bit of salt? Touch, not too much. I'm quite bad for salt. If you were

:55:59. > :56:07.cooking at home, and you didn't have fresh herbs can you use dried? I

:56:08. > :56:12.have dried these. You can use dried herbs. Dill isn't always easy to get

:56:13. > :56:18.hold of. This buttermilk, you are could use yoghurt right. That has

:56:19. > :56:25.the same kind of enzymes. These are quite big, I will cut these in half.

:56:26. > :56:33.If you were going it use yoghurt don't leave it in too long. They

:56:34. > :56:46.need a bit more cooking. Yeah? If I slice these. That's a good one. All

:56:47. > :56:52.this southern scwi zeen -- cuisine, New Orleans, creole, it's buzzing.

:56:53. > :57:01.Yes, it's a bit new. Fresh. It's all tasty. A lot of flavours, taste in

:57:02. > :57:04.there. Are we ready there? We're good.

:57:05. > :57:12.A great family recipe it looks like as well. It's a good, fun recipe.

:57:13. > :57:18.Kids love it. I bet! Anything from a deep fat friar.

:57:19. > :57:23.-- fryer. I have a mantra, bacon, butter and batter make everything

:57:24. > :57:30.taste better. Say that quickly and many times? I

:57:31. > :57:35.do my best. There you go. Beautiful. Radishes. Deep fried chicken,

:57:36. > :57:41.radishes, little bit of health food. Your five-a-day. We've got southern

:57:42. > :57:46.fried chicken with classic ranch dressing, baby gem, shower doe

:57:47. > :57:53.croutons and radishes -- sourdough croutons and radishes. Beautiful.

:57:54. > :57:57.Let's go and see what they think. Have a tuck into that. Are you sure

:57:58. > :58:05.that chick season done now. We'll soon find out. I have a 16-week tour

:58:06. > :58:08.coming up! Let us know tomorrow. Right, we need wine to go with this.

:58:09. > :58:13.Susy Atkins has been in Gloucester this week. What does she choose to

:58:14. > :58:27.go with this fantastic fried chicken?

:58:28. > :58:34.It's possible to go two ways when it comes to wine. It should be white,

:58:35. > :58:39.but if you want tone Hans the rich, deep-fried chicken pick a ripe,

:58:40. > :58:43.creamy style. A wine from burgundy would be ideal. I've made the dish

:58:44. > :58:47.at home and I'm going for a refreshing, crisp style to pull out

:58:48. > :58:57.those lovely salad flavours. The wine I've gone for is the Signature

:58:58. > :59:01.Canto Real Verdejo 2012 Signature Canto Real Verdejo 2012 Spain. Best

:59:02. > :59:08.known for its red wines, but don't overlook its modern white wines too.

:59:09. > :59:15.This is a key Spanish white wine region. Fresh scents, citrus, a

:59:16. > :59:20.little bit of light peach in there. The grape which makes this wine

:59:21. > :59:25.delivers quite a fruity, lime-juicy flavour. This is no whimp. It will

:59:26. > :59:30.stand up perfectly well to that chicken with its lovely onion,

:59:31. > :59:37.celery and garlic-flavoured coating and the creamy ranch dressing. The

:59:38. > :59:40.finish is crisp and dry, refreshing, with herbaceousness to it. That

:59:41. > :59:44.draws out the flavour of the baby gem lettuce, parsley and crunchy

:59:45. > :59:48.radishes. What's not to love about your gorgeous deep-fried chicken and

:59:49. > :59:58.ranch dressing and it's made even more scrum Chatham House with the

:59:59. > :00:03.a-- scrum chus -- scrumptuious with this wine.

:00:04. > :00:07.This goes well. There's a curvaciousness with this. The

:00:08. > :00:11.chicken is properly cooked, we checked. Nobody is going to be ill

:00:12. > :00:14.here. You carry on with that. Time to get back to Celebrity MasterChef.

:00:15. > :00:18.Where the four hopefuls are struggling to get the students'

:00:19. > :00:25.lunch ready on time. Let's see what happened.

:00:26. > :00:42.There is now less than half an hour until service. Ade is putting the

:00:43. > :00:47.finishing touches to his past NAMA. -- His team meat is in real --

:00:48. > :00:50.team-mate is in real trouble. I'm concerned about this vegetable bake.

:00:51. > :00:55.I think you're right to be concerned. That is the new potatoes

:00:56. > :00:59.and they still... We still have veg to cook. I don't want to be let

:01:00. > :01:04.down. No, irdon't want to let you down. -- I don't want to let you

:01:05. > :01:13.down. We need to start moving now. Come on! Please! John and Philips

:01:14. > :01:24.need to bake their ratatouille with goat's cheese. These need to go in

:01:25. > :01:32.the often, prest yo. -- presto. Plaster please, sorry. We have a bad

:01:33. > :01:36.cut here. First aider, please. It might be time to communicate with

:01:37. > :01:42.your team-mate to communicate, mate. I've cut myself badly. It's bad.

:01:43. > :01:50.Bad, bad? Yeah, bad, bad. I might need a stitch. Chop those and put

:01:51. > :01:57.them in there. That's it. With John out of action, Philips steps in to

:01:58. > :02:07.chop the tomatoes to serve with their chilli. Right, no more knife

:02:08. > :02:13.work today. That's it. 15 minutes everybody. Are you listening? Yes,

:02:14. > :02:16.chef. Denise and ade are still cooking vegetables for their dishes.

:02:17. > :02:21.They've had more than enough time. The whole thing about serving a bake

:02:22. > :02:27.is you have to bake it. In time for lunch! Come on, let's

:02:28. > :02:33.go! I need everything out on the hot plate now. Finishing touches.

:02:34. > :02:34.I don't want to alarm anyone, but there's a queue of students waiting

:02:35. > :02:58.to be fed outside. It was touch-and-go. Was, yes.

:02:59. > :03:06.Hello. That looks delicious. There you go.

:03:07. > :03:12.Ade's chicken, bacon and mushroom pasta is selling out fast. Very pop

:03:13. > :03:18.that -- popular this time of year. It's really nice. I'm enjoying it. I

:03:19. > :03:27.like the sauce, it's creamy. And the spinach is nice as well. Fantastic.

:03:28. > :03:30.Great combination of flavours, all well cooked. You can taste every

:03:31. > :03:38.single thing, it's seasoned really well. A good job for Ade. Denise's

:03:39. > :03:45.cheesy vegetable bake is not proving so popular.

:03:46. > :03:52.Any vegetarians, we have a three-cheesy bake going this end.

:03:53. > :04:07.Can I have cheesy vegetable bake. Coming up.

:04:08. > :04:14.It's lumps of veg in a cheesy custard and that looks atrocious.

:04:15. > :04:22.This has just failed its university course. It's got to go home and

:04:23. > :04:31.explain that to mum and dad. What can I get you, mate? Chilli. John

:04:32. > :04:37.and Philips chilli beef with tortilla and salad is in strong

:04:38. > :04:40.demand. Thank you very much. The beef chilli wrap was really nice. It

:04:41. > :04:48.will set me up nicely for the rest of the day. I won't be picking. It's

:04:49. > :04:52.absolutely lovely. It has nice mince with a bit of spicing, and tangy

:04:53. > :04:57.cheddar wrapped up in bread, really nice. Colourful, imaginative and it

:04:58. > :05:00.tastes good. I'm going for the vegetable

:05:01. > :05:05.ratatouille. Top man, because you're the first one that's ordered it. We

:05:06. > :05:11.like that. We like you. After a slow start, their vegetarian ratatouille

:05:12. > :05:19.generates interest. What would you like? Ratatouille, please. There we

:05:20. > :05:24.go. I got the vegetable ratatouille with the goat's cheese. I'm really

:05:25. > :05:31.happy with what I got. Normally just have soup for lunch, so this is

:05:32. > :05:35.really nice, a nice change. The issue is the ratatouille is cooked

:05:36. > :05:39.too long and all you can taste is tomato. You can't taste the

:05:40. > :05:45.aubergine or corgette. You can't even taste the onion, not very much

:05:46. > :05:56.good about this at all. Everybody, we need to clear the mains away now.

:05:57. > :06:05.We need to get on with the dessert. Looks nice.

:06:06. > :06:14.Thank you very much. Enjoy. Bread and butter pudding? Ade and Denise's

:06:15. > :06:21.bread and butter pudding is flying out of the door. Bread and butter

:06:22. > :06:26.pudding is one of my favourite desserts I would say. I know it's a

:06:27. > :06:30.bit heavy on the hips. It's really good. Please may I have some more...

:06:31. > :06:41.Here you are, Oliver. It looks amazing. Really wonderful,

:06:42. > :06:45.glossy and brown and beautiful. It just needs to be a little bit

:06:46. > :06:52.sweeter, but I can forgive that. Well done Denise.

:06:53. > :07:02.John and Philips' meringue dessert is also selling well.

:07:03. > :07:10.It was really tasty, but it didn't look very good. Once we got into it,

:07:11. > :07:22.it tasted nice. It's very nice. I'm enjoying it a lot. That needs a

:07:23. > :07:27.splash of fruit. That is an anaemic pudding. We're two thirds of the way

:07:28. > :07:30.it a pave loaf yax the missing third -- Pavlova, the missing third is

:07:31. > :07:36.fruit. Couldn't have done it without you. It was good.

:07:37. > :07:40.Well done. Weren't we brilliant. I've enjoyed it. They learned a lot

:07:41. > :07:44.about cooking today and we've learned a lot about them. Nobody

:07:45. > :07:45.goes home, but I tell you what, next time they cook, one of them's going

:07:46. > :07:57.to leave the competition. Right, now sadly, we're a bit tight

:07:58. > :08:03.on time today. We haven't got time for the omelette challenge. I'm sure

:08:04. > :08:07.you're gutted. Though Alyn had been practising. We have time to answer a

:08:08. > :08:10.few of your questions. Each caller will also help us decide what

:08:11. > :08:17.Alastair will be eating at the end of the show. So, who have we got on

:08:18. > :08:25.line one? Ann from Leeds. Hello. Hi. How are you? Good, thank thank you.

:08:26. > :08:33.Your question? While travelling in Peru, I had lots of lovely evoch

:08:34. > :08:37.yay. -- seviche. I would like to know what fish to use here? King of

:08:38. > :08:44.the fish here is the Seabass. Squeeze of lime, any chilli you

:08:45. > :08:52.want, Amarillo is great, obviously. Salt and coriander. Keep is fresh.

:08:53. > :08:57.Ask your fish amonger -- fish monger what the freshest fish is. Heaven or

:08:58. > :09:01.hell? I have great memories of lemon meringue pie, so it has to be

:09:02. > :09:08.heaven. Thanks for that. Now next line two is Mike from Bognor Regis.

:09:09. > :09:12.What's your question? Hi, Matt. My question is I have some soft shell

:09:13. > :09:19.crabs in the freezer. Y you. I wonder how you prepare them hand the

:09:20. > :09:25.best way to cook them. You want to answer that Martin? Sorry. Alyn.

:09:26. > :09:29.Yeah, soft-shelled crab needs to be cooked quickly. To be honest, I

:09:30. > :09:34.would do what I just did with the chicken. It's good flash fried

:09:35. > :09:39.really fast, hot oil. But if you do it like that, a bit of yoghurt or

:09:40. > :09:45.buttermilk, some of that dredged, the spices, really nice with it.

:09:46. > :09:49.Just fry it for a couple of minutes, until it's, from defrosted though,

:09:50. > :09:54.not from from frozen. Sure they're dry. Yeah, in the buttermilk,

:09:55. > :09:58.dredged, fried. Are you good with that, Mike? Yeah, that's great.

:09:59. > :10:03.Heaven or hell? Very sorry, but I'm going for hell. Are you, OK. Not

:10:04. > :10:10.making friends over here. Michael from Oldham, what would you

:10:11. > :10:14.like? Hello. What's your question. I keep seeing oxtail in the

:10:15. > :10:23.supermarkets now. What's the best way to slow cook oxtail? Well we can

:10:24. > :10:30.do a delicious oxtail and corn pie, it's like a shepherds pie but the

:10:31. > :10:36.mash you replace with quorn and the mince below is oxtail. It's a

:10:37. > :10:40.classic dish as well. I heard it was snails the other day. That was

:10:41. > :10:45.delicious as well. Would you like to see heaven or hell? Hell. Really? No

:10:46. > :10:52.question about that. O'-Kay, thanks for that. Alastair, are you getting

:10:53. > :10:58.Food Heaven or hell? I get a vote as well? Food Heaven is going to be the

:10:59. > :11:04.beautiful meringue pie. Yeah, although your take on it, I'm not

:11:05. > :11:09.sure. Or the Food Hell, the pork. After what I've eaten, I need

:11:10. > :11:13.something sweet. You will make your choice as well. We journey into the

:11:14. > :11:17.world of Chinese food with Ken Hom and Ching-He Huang. Our explorers

:11:18. > :11:22.are touring the region of accept Juan.

:11:23. > :11:40.A-- Sechuan. As well as pork and flour pepper,

:11:41. > :11:45.there's a local ingredient that is famous and defines the taste of the

:11:46. > :11:52.region. In the few days we've been here, everyone we've met has relied

:11:53. > :12:03.on it. If chilli and Sechuan pepper are the heart of the food here, then

:12:04. > :12:08.chilli bean paste is the soul. This is incredible. I've never seen

:12:09. > :12:13.anything like this in my life. I feel like I'm walking into a

:12:14. > :12:23.cemetery or monastery because it's so Zen. It's a bit spooky and eerie.

:12:24. > :12:29.At this factory, just outside Chaneeengdu -- Chengdu, they've been

:12:30. > :12:35.making the best chilli bean paste. Two years it's aged for? Three years

:12:36. > :12:40.and five years too. The paste is very simply made from upthree

:12:41. > :12:45.ingredients, broad beans, red chillies and salt. It's then left to

:12:46. > :12:49.ferment in these earthenware crocks for up to five years. That is really

:12:50. > :13:04.superb. It's beautiful. The secret of this paste lies in the

:13:05. > :13:12.relentlessly damp Sichuan climate. The humidity in the air creates a

:13:13. > :13:15.chilli bean paste unlike any other. It's a little bit like wine. You

:13:16. > :13:22.know we do wine and we're talking about where the grapes come from,

:13:23. > :13:28.and I thip it's very much this, because this is the heart of what

:13:29. > :13:35.Sichuan cooking is about, this kind of damp, foggy climate that makes

:13:36. > :13:44.this kind of moody chilli bean sauce that's the heart of this type of

:13:45. > :13:51.cooking. During our time here, we've seen modern China pushing up against

:13:52. > :13:55.the past. But in the people's park, the surrounding tower blocks are

:13:56. > :14:03.kept at bay and certain traditions that stretch back centuries remain

:14:04. > :14:08.unchanged. It has a reputation as the most chilled out city in China.

:14:09. > :14:17.As the saying goes here, sunny days are rare, but tea houses are

:14:18. > :14:29.abundant. One thing I really remember about my mum is her love of

:14:30. > :14:33.machung, she could sit for hours drinking tea and playing with her

:14:34. > :14:37.friends. You couldn't get her to do anything when she's playing. Despite

:14:38. > :14:41.Chairman Mao closing down tea houses, because he felt gathering

:14:42. > :14:46.places posed a threat, they re-opened in the early 80s an the

:14:47. > :14:52.retired Chinese still come here to play. You hear the Charles Kennedy

:14:53. > :14:56.when they go like that -- you hear the clack, when they go like that.

:14:57. > :15:01.Yeah, they call it washing their tiles.

:15:02. > :15:05.The rituals the tea house life may remain unchanged. And where once I

:15:06. > :15:09.would have expected to see the gentle rhythm of t'ai chi, today

:15:10. > :15:19.people are moving to a different beat.

:15:20. > :15:25.UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS The dancing reflects a new-found

:15:26. > :15:35.freedom that I hadn't sensed when I came here in 1989. Then China was

:15:36. > :15:42.still emerging from a period of long isolation and the trauma of the

:15:43. > :15:45.cultural revolution. The attempt to impose Communist ideas throughout

:15:46. > :15:51.the country in the 60s and 70s, resulted in chaos in famine. Every

:15:52. > :15:55.aspect of life was affected. Rationing was introduced. The art of

:15:56. > :16:03.cooking was abandoned and many people fled the country.

:16:04. > :16:10.People like chef Lee, he escaped to Hong Kong, when he was 18, but

:16:11. > :16:38.return here ten years ago as life began to improve.

:16:39. > :16:51.He swap to Hong Kong. -- swam to Hong Kong.

:16:52. > :16:59.Wow, that is amazing. It feels good that chef Lee has returned to China.

:17:00. > :17:06.The influence of chefs like him has done so much to re-invigorate the

:17:07. > :17:12.food culture here. He agrees to give me a hand to make one of my

:17:13. > :17:18.favourite dishes, crispy aromatic duck. What we do in the UK is we

:17:19. > :17:25.take the duck and we put things like five spice and Sichuan peppercorn on

:17:26. > :17:29.it and salt. But here, it's the real thing. For the dry marinade it's OK

:17:30. > :17:35.to improvise the ingredients, but the base usually starts with salt

:17:36. > :17:39.and chicken stock powder. We're in Sichuan you so you have chillies,

:17:40. > :17:48.lots of them. Then of course, the most important thing are these

:17:49. > :17:53.lovely Sichuan peppercorns. Really quite powerful. He says, "Put it all

:17:54. > :18:02.in." The rest of the marinade, cardamom, ginger, fennel is left to

:18:03. > :18:06.absorb for three hours. The trick to this dish is to steam the duck for

:18:07. > :18:18.about 45 minutes, then to let it dry and finally to deep fry it until the

:18:19. > :18:23.skin is crisp and golden. Chinese like to gnaw on the bone. Because we

:18:24. > :18:31.feel that is where all the flavour is. The marinade permeates the duck

:18:32. > :18:38.meat and that's what makes it red. Out of this world. It's much more

:18:39. > :18:44.complex than the aromatic crispy duck we get in the UK. It's a very

:18:45. > :18:50.sophisticated mixture of flavours here. Outstanding.

:18:51. > :18:57.There'll be more from Ken and Ching next week. Now let's find out

:18:58. > :19:04.whether Alastair is facing heaven or hell. Food Heaven was this, lots of

:19:05. > :19:10.lemons. And lemon meringue pie and meringue and stuff like that right?

:19:11. > :19:16.Yeah. Or hell was this, porkchop. It looks boring. Look at the size of

:19:17. > :19:20.it. Nice Asian slaw. What do you think you got? I hope I got the pie.

:19:21. > :19:25.I've had so much savoury. You weren't sure what I was going to do,

:19:26. > :19:30.were you? No, but I'm interested to see. I can tell you... It is the

:19:31. > :19:36.lemon meringue pie. Get in! Guys, you are went for it, right. Yeah.

:19:37. > :19:41.Excellent. Boys, if you want to clear that, let's get this on. So,

:19:42. > :19:47.I'm also going to need you to do - I have got lemon curd. One of you

:19:48. > :19:49.guys, who wants to do lemon curd? I will make it.

:19:50. > :19:53.guys, who wants to do lemon curd? I will make That leaves Martin to do

:19:54. > :19:59.the cream. Mascarpone there, double cream, lemon, right, I'll get on

:20:00. > :20:03.with the cake and stop talking. What do you call it, not a separated...

:20:04. > :20:09.Deconstructed. That's the word. If you want to call it that. That's the

:20:10. > :20:15.buzz word. Let's get this in. Start blending the butter an the sugar.

:20:16. > :20:22.You want that sugar to dissolve. Let's get that in. I would do this

:20:23. > :20:26.by hand if I do this stuff. You don't! Have you not got one of

:20:27. > :20:31.these? No, I enjoy. It it's my workout. You don't need it. That's

:20:32. > :20:36.very kind. I have bicarb in there that will lighten the load. It's a

:20:37. > :20:44.chuck it all in cake. Let's take this over here and some self-raising

:20:45. > :20:49.flour. My ingreened yebts are going everywhere. Ideally -- ingredients

:20:50. > :20:53.are going everywhere. Let that cream and add your eggs slowly. That's

:20:54. > :20:58.with the luxury of time. We're short on that. This is for the pastry? No,

:20:59. > :21:03.this is the cake. We're making like a lemon cake with the cream and the

:21:04. > :21:20.mascarpone and the meringue and what not. No pastry. Guys, who... Limes

:21:21. > :21:25.there there? You don't want me to do anything? Right, slowly add the

:21:26. > :21:31.eggs. This is aye real kind of quick, chuck it all in method. --

:21:32. > :21:36.this is a real quick, chuck it all in method. You need a mixer. What do

:21:37. > :21:40.you eat when you're on the road then? It's tricky actually. It's

:21:41. > :21:45.finding a time to eat. You don't want to eat too close to a show. And

:21:46. > :21:49.you don't eat after a show. It's not good for you. If you turn up in

:21:50. > :21:55.towns thaw don't know, sometimes -- that you don't know, sometimes you

:21:56. > :22:00.turn up at 5pm, and no-one serves until 6pm. I find it hard when I'm

:22:01. > :22:09.out and about, I find it hard not to eat loads of bread. You can't get

:22:10. > :22:13.through at a service station and everything is bread based. It's

:22:14. > :22:19.difficult to get vegetarian food unless you eat raw veg or fruit. I

:22:20. > :22:23.survive on fruit and chocolate. Not together! That's a balanced diet. It

:22:24. > :22:28.is hard to eat on the road. Cooking itself, you have to be at home to do

:22:29. > :22:33.it. You like your own kitchen, your own food, it's difficult. It's a big

:22:34. > :22:37.thing now for you guys, to do these massive tours, isn't it? Well,

:22:38. > :22:41.theatre is slight slay different. People have been -- slightly

:22:42. > :22:44.different. People have been doing that for years. The venues I was

:22:45. > :22:52.doing is the little theatre in Monmouth. People are saying oh, you

:22:53. > :22:57.know we had O'Briain bean here, he -- Dara O'Briain, he's trying out

:22:58. > :23:01.stuff for his big tour. But this is my tour. Do you get a sense of where

:23:02. > :23:07.you are and do you have that kind of heckle or feed back? You try and fit

:23:08. > :23:12.things in. Depending on where you are. If I'm in the Birmingham area

:23:13. > :23:18.you put in people like "Frank Skinner, who maybe you wouldn't do

:23:19. > :23:21.anywhere else." Good. I've done "Brendan Foster for a long time.

:23:22. > :23:26.When I do him normally, people laugh at the end of the routine, when

:23:27. > :23:29.you're in Newcastle or anywhere in the north-east, they laugh straight

:23:30. > :23:35.away." People like you to do people from their area. They really do. In

:23:36. > :23:44.the West Country or Wales, if you do "Steffan Merchant, people laugh a

:23:45. > :23:48.lot. They like Stephen. Have you got any requests? He's done Trevor

:23:49. > :23:51.brooking. The sport voices are big for you. Always has been. I love

:23:52. > :23:54.watching sport. That's the thing really, doing impressions, you have

:23:55. > :24:03.to do people you watch a lot. For me, as well, I like my tennis. "I do

:24:04. > :24:07.Andy Murray. Nowadays the response to me doing Andy has gone through

:24:08. > :24:12.the roof, you know." It's second nature. I have to work hard at

:24:13. > :24:17.politicians. I follow politics like anybody else, but it's not natural

:24:18. > :24:21.for me. "I have enjoyed doing Boris. Boris was saying the other day, we

:24:22. > :24:26.face three major crises in this country at this moment in time. A

:24:27. > :24:29.fuel crisis, an obesity crisis and unemployment crisis. We could solve

:24:30. > :24:33.all three crises at a stroke. We need to suck the fat out of the fat

:24:34. > :24:37.people, turn it into fuel and pay them for it. Who needs fracking,

:24:38. > :24:39.when we have snacking, that's what I say."

:24:40. > :24:43.LAUGHTER OK. That's the all in one... I

:24:44. > :24:49.missed that. I will talk you through it. Eggs and sugar and then the

:24:50. > :24:52.lemon zest and juice, the bicarb and the self-raising flour. Chuck today

:24:53. > :24:57.all in, creamed together -- chucked it all in, creamed it together using

:24:58. > :25:04.that bad boy there. Let's move this over. This is what will come out.

:25:05. > :25:09.Once it's cool... "You have a soggy bottom there. I'm not happy with

:25:10. > :25:17.that as a bake at all there. I don't know what Mary thinks." Is it part

:25:18. > :25:20.of your job to keep up with... Completely. I found myself cursing

:25:21. > :25:26.once in the television series. I rang a friend and he said, what are

:25:27. > :25:30.you doing? I said, I was watching Rising Damp, I watched five episodes

:25:31. > :25:35.back-to-back. He actually said to me, most people would give their eye

:25:36. > :25:41.teeth to watch that. It's not always a hardship. That's why I do people

:25:42. > :25:47.that I enjoy watching. Then it doesn't feel like work at all. Boys.

:25:48. > :25:54.We have our cooled lemon curd. I missed that. What is lemon curd.

:25:55. > :25:59.Talk him through it. Eggs, sugar and lemon, whisked until it should be

:26:00. > :26:06.ribbon stage and then you add butter to it to emulsify. Does it need to

:26:07. > :26:11.set? It needs to go in the fridge and cool down. I'm going to rip all

:26:12. > :26:17.this through. That's looking really tantalising. It kind of is not what

:26:18. > :26:22.you had in mind, I this think, when -- think -- I think when you think

:26:23. > :26:28.of lemon meringue pie. That's been ripped through the mascarpone. --

:26:29. > :26:33.rippled through the mascarpone. Here, we have got some lemon slices.

:26:34. > :26:37.Now these very easy to do. They look like the lemons you left in the

:26:38. > :26:41.fruit bowl and kind of forgotten about. But they're not. What you

:26:42. > :26:47.need to do is slice them and you could leave them in your Augusta or

:26:48. > :26:53.in a low -- Aga or in a low oven overnight. Crisp them up. Could you

:26:54. > :27:00.eat the whole thing? You can eat them. With the Rhined as well. --

:27:01. > :27:11.rind as well. They're pokey. That's pokey. Like a snack. That's nice.

:27:12. > :27:16.Let's turn that heat off. Thgs the -- this is the wafer-thin meringue.

:27:17. > :27:21.I'm hoping to get some shards. It's not really working. Hang on. What

:27:22. > :27:29.you would do is make meringue, spread it out, leave that to dry.

:27:30. > :27:34.Are you going to do it? Lever that to dry in the same...

:27:35. > :27:43.LAUGHTER There! Shards. Beautiful. That looks

:27:44. > :27:49.better than the one I did earlier. Move that like that. And that's it.

:27:50. > :27:55.Do you want to dig in. Put your lemon down. I do. Yes, you do.

:27:56. > :28:02.Right. I can't believe I'm about to say that my mother makes it better.

:28:03. > :28:11.We need some wine to go with that. What have I got here? We have got

:28:12. > :28:14.ticko's finest and it's 6. .79. That is really nice. It's the curd that

:28:15. > :28:19.makes it. Do you want some wine, boys? It's a disappointing bake, I

:28:20. > :28:23.have to say. Remind us when your tour starts? The tour of Pygmalion

:28:24. > :28:28.starts in ten days. I'm speaking with my mouth full. That's fine. In

:28:29. > :28:32.Cambridge, then Aberdeen, Brighton, Bath... Coming to a town near you.

:28:33. > :28:39.If there's tie Theatre Royal we're in it. Is that all right? This is

:28:40. > :28:43.lovely. It's a very funny version, I say that. That's all today from

:28:44. > :28:45.Saturday Kitchen Live. Thanks to Martin Morales, Alyn Williams and

:28:46. > :28:49.Alistair McGowan. Cheers to Susy Atkins for the wine choices. All of

:28:50. > :28:54.today's recipes are, as always, on the website, go to bbc.co.uk

:28:55. > :28:57.Saturdaykitchen. Now James will be back here at the same time next

:28:58. > :29:00.week. And in the meantime, have a great day and enjoy the rest of your

:29:01. > :29:03.weekend. Bye for now.