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:00:12. > :00:19.Good morning. Welcome to Sundays morning. We are with you live, for

:00:19. > :00:24.the next 90 minutes and joining us is the co-writer of Gavin & Stacey,

:00:24. > :00:29.a hugely successful actress and now TV chat show host, Ruth Jones.

:00:29. > :00:35.as if that wasn't enough, we have the musicianitionans that might

:00:35. > :00:41.just have created the best Christmas album of the decade. Tom

:00:41. > :00:51.Smith and Andy Burrows. And we pack presents and look forward to the

:00:51. > :00:53.

:00:53. > :01:00.best of next week's telly. This is something for the weekend.

:01:00. > :01:07.Good mortgage and welcome to the programme. America Ferrera was due

:01:07. > :01:15.to be on the show this morning, but unfortunately she is unwell. Get

:01:15. > :01:20.well soon. The whole of America! Like Barack Obama, get well soon,

:01:20. > :01:27.America. Tom and Andy, I was given their

:01:27. > :01:31.album about two months ago, and I've told them this,, "Honestly, a

:01:31. > :01:37.Christmas album," but I stuck it on. I promise you, I've not stopped

:01:37. > :01:44.listening to it. It's quite a different album, isn't it. It's

:01:44. > :01:50.really good, it's......I'm trying to think of the word, because

:01:50. > :01:55.Christmas songs are jolly and uplifting; It's not really a

:01:55. > :02:00.Christmas album, it's for people who are really into their bands and

:02:00. > :02:07.more serious. It's really well- written. But it sums it up. When

:02:07. > :02:16.you sit there you feel Christmassy. What is your favourite song of

:02:16. > :02:24.Christmas. Mine is the Poges. so girlie I like a bit of Maria.

:02:24. > :02:31.All I Want For Christmas. Mine is East 17. Now I didn't have you

:02:31. > :02:38.coming out with that one. But it doesn't having anything to do with

:02:38. > :02:45.Christmas. Can you sing a bit. only thing to do with Christmas was

:02:45. > :02:52.they wore white pouffe jackets and there was snow in the background.

:02:52. > :02:58.was only joking when you said sing. The best Christmas album is Dean

:02:58. > :03:08.Martin. Don't you just love all Christmas songs. I do, until Boxing

:03:08. > :03:09.

:03:09. > :03:16.Day, and then I hate them. Forget Frank, stick Dean on. You can't say

:03:16. > :03:22.that. I just said it, it's true. I'm sure the viewers will agree. I

:03:23. > :03:28.tell you what, tell us what the best Christmas song ever is. I do

:03:28. > :03:37.genuinely love that East 17 song, I really do.

:03:37. > :03:42.There's the address. Now, Strictly last night. Yes. I

:03:42. > :03:49.actually missed it last night, so I'm very upset about, so you guys

:03:49. > :03:57.are going to have to fill me in. Simon, you watched it. What

:03:57. > :04:05.happened? Charlesee, all tens. She was overjoyed. It's been going a

:04:05. > :04:12.long time. I was upset Robbie Savage was out. I think I'm going

:04:12. > :04:19.team Donovan. I think the right people are in the final. I think

:04:19. > :04:25.the strongest dancers are in the final. No, Robbie Savage should be

:04:25. > :04:34.there. No, in fall fairness he did great, but the strongest dancers

:04:34. > :04:44.are there and that's how it should be. You'll know them from lazor

:04:44. > :04:46.

:04:46. > :04:52.light and the Editors, but now Tom Smith and Andy Burrows have gone

:04:52. > :04:59.solo and got together. I want to know why two people like that got

:04:59. > :05:07.together to do Christmas. It was probably over a drink. And they

:05:07. > :05:16.forgot it the next day. We had the Christmas discussion the other day.

:05:17. > :05:22.Like the Olympic catering. I've been on the phone to Seb Coe.

:05:22. > :05:29.to try and get a pitch? Yes, he said it was sorted.

:05:29. > :05:35.There are rumours of Gavin & Stacey the musical, and Ruth will be on

:05:35. > :05:43.the programme to tell us how she got her new slime-line figure.

:05:43. > :05:53.And if you want to chat with us, e- mail us or tweet us.

:05:53. > :05:59.And confirm that Deano is better that Frank!

:05:59. > :06:05.Simon, what are you doing? It is nearly Christmas, so we're going to

:06:05. > :06:14.do some Christmassy things, and eat like celebrities. As you know, we

:06:14. > :06:20.on our side of the road only like to eat small food. I like big food,

:06:20. > :06:28.but Louise and Jamie party with small food. You've got to have your

:06:28. > :06:37.little finger out for all of these. We start with mini haggis bargies,

:06:37. > :06:43.with a whisky dipping sauce. The main course is mini spicey turkey

:06:43. > :06:48.prawn pot pies. Why are we doing mini everything? Because we're

:06:49. > :06:54.celebrities. But when you do mini stuff you just eat more. Because

:06:54. > :07:04.you don't just have one, you have four! You're clearly not a shreebty.

:07:04. > :07:05.

:07:05. > :07:13.Clearly not. - celebrity.

:07:13. > :07:20.So how did you lose all the weight? Did you just cut down on the

:07:20. > :07:30.proportions? The only thing that isn't mini, but we'll cut small

:07:30. > :07:40.slices we're doing a chocolate and cranberry roulade. Then we're back

:07:40. > :07:42.

:07:42. > :07:50.on with the best celebrity thing to eight vol-au-vents. Sellairback

:07:50. > :08:00.vol-au-vents. It's like we're doing party food -- -- celeriac vol-au-

:08:00. > :08:09.

:08:09. > :08:15.And it's Winter Wipeout, where it's two for one down at granny's house.

:08:15. > :08:24.Everyone's after progression in Rev. You'd have written me a glowing

:08:24. > :08:30.reference, as I'm sure you will. And the ups and downs of a 30-year-

:08:30. > :08:36.And the ups and downs of a 30-year- old hippy.

:08:36. > :08:46.OK, Christmas Day is two weeks today. Are you sorted, organised?

:08:46. > :08:53.No! Is it on a Sunday? Is it on a Sunday this year? Wayne, what are

:08:53. > :09:03.you making? Are you working Christmas Day. I have got a cracker

:09:03. > :09:03.

:09:03. > :09:08.of a Christmas Day. Rum, pork and cognac, with Christmas mincemeat.

:09:08. > :09:14.That's what's great about Christmas, you can eat mince pies and

:09:14. > :09:19.Christmas cake and you've got a reason to do it. Have you got your

:09:19. > :09:26.tree up yet? I bought the tree yesterday and I'll decorate it

:09:26. > :09:33.today. I bought mine, but it's still wrapped up. Is it wooden?

:09:33. > :09:39.it's a real one. You see if I had got a wooden one, I could have just

:09:39. > :09:47.got it out. That's boring. We have a dog this year, so we don't know

:09:47. > :09:56.how the dog will react. Do you do all one colour for yours? I do the

:09:56. > :10:01.one in the hall. She's got two! Because I let the kids have one.

:10:01. > :10:08.They decorate it themselves and it's slightly messy, so I like to

:10:08. > :10:14.do one that I decorate, a proper one! What colours have you done?

:10:14. > :10:21.The kids' one is multi-coloured and mine is silver, gold and white.

:10:21. > :10:26.What about you? It's got to be red and white. Mine too! We're so

:10:26. > :10:36.predictable. So the first of our mini eating like a celebrity dish

:10:36. > :10:39.

:10:39. > :10:49.of the day are the mini bargies. And we need a dipping sauce, and we

:10:49. > :10:50.

:10:50. > :10:59.have kumquats. They are very, very sharp. Are they a baby sats yumia?

:10:59. > :11:06.Kind of. The haggis we've cooked already and

:11:06. > :11:11.there onions and chilli. Tip the onions into there, and finely chop

:11:11. > :11:18.a bit of that and I'll slice the garlic. And then we want to crumble

:11:18. > :11:24.some of the garlic. The thing with bargies, a basic onion bargey is

:11:24. > :11:33.what we're doing now. So the onion and a little bit of garlic and

:11:33. > :11:42.chilli. Is that too much? We'll have all of it. Tip half of that in

:11:42. > :11:49.the gram flour, which is made from chick peas. And it comes together

:11:49. > :11:55.very, very quickly. We're looking for the consisty of a thick double

:11:55. > :12:01.cream, basically. Next, Tim I need about a third of that haggis and

:12:01. > :12:08.crumble it into the onions. It's all caught in the whisk. Shall I

:12:08. > :12:13.just keep going? You'll get there eventually. And crumble this in?

:12:13. > :12:20.Yes. I did a BBC food show in Glasgow a few months ago and

:12:20. > :12:26.someone told me about haggis bargies. I do like haggis. I do. I

:12:26. > :12:31.like the flavour and the texture of it, with all the oats and the

:12:31. > :12:39.barley. That's looking beautiful. know, I'm good at this. That's the

:12:40. > :12:48.kind of texture we're looking for. Kind of like thick custard. That's

:12:48. > :12:58.not a bad description. Thick cream, thick custard. Am I to mix it with

:12:58. > :12:59.

:12:59. > :13:09.my hands? You can do, but now put it in there. And mix it to get

:13:09. > :13:14.every little strand of filling is coated. Do you not trust me? Oh, I

:13:15. > :13:21.do. You're standing over me like I'm going to ruin the bargey.

:13:21. > :13:31.you're doing very well. So once it's all coated. It's quite a thick

:13:31. > :13:34.

:13:34. > :13:43.mixture. Tim, do you want to do some quenelleing? I'd love to. So,

:13:43. > :13:53.on Strictly last night....I watching X Factor. What! I took my

:13:53. > :14:02.

:14:02. > :14:12.mum and daughters to Matilda. getting tweets from people who were

:14:12. > :14:14.

:14:14. > :14:19.watching. I went on a mum and dads night out last night. And? It was

:14:19. > :14:26.good fun. A lively bunch they are. Charlie's school class, all the

:14:26. > :14:31.mums and dads went out for dinner. It was good fun. I'm sure they're

:14:31. > :14:39.watching this morning, all hungover while I'm bright and breezy.

:14:39. > :14:47.Get it on the right-hand spoon, like that. I think you're putting

:14:47. > :14:54.too much on, Tim. You come and do it! Have it parallel to your body

:14:54. > :14:58.and the front edge, and scoop it that way, so from underneath. And

:14:58. > :15:04.same again, so you're constantly working it like that. You don't

:15:04. > :15:07.have to do this, but we are doing it because we're celebrities.

:15:07. > :15:15.is not as much fun as chopping, Simon.

:15:15. > :15:20.If you have a deep-fat fryer at home, not many people do. Who has

:15:20. > :15:26.one of those? Do you think they're not popular because we're all

:15:26. > :15:34.eating more healthy? When I was a kid, the smell of the chip pan when

:15:34. > :15:41.you came home meant it was going to be a good tea. If you're going for

:15:41. > :15:51.chips, it's probably cheaper to buy them out, isn't it? But it's not

:15:51. > :15:51.

:15:51. > :16:01.the same as home-made. These look like little beetles. I'm getting

:16:01. > :16:05.

:16:05. > :16:12.quite good at skwepbling. What else can -- I'm getting quite good at

:16:12. > :16:22.quenelleing. What else can I quenelle? Pate. And potato.

:16:22. > :16:23.

:16:23. > :16:33.Shall I carry on, or have we got enough? Now we want little, thin

:16:33. > :16:34.

:16:34. > :16:44.slices of our kumquats. Make sure they're perfect rounds, though.

:16:44. > :16:46.

:16:46. > :16:52.They smell deligs yush. I like them with -- deligs yush -- delicious.

:16:53. > :16:57.I like them with all the little bits hanging off.

:16:57. > :17:05.If you don't cook them slowly enough you end up with a crispy

:17:05. > :17:12.outside and all the batter is uncooked. So do them quite slowly.

:17:12. > :17:17.Now, the whiskey in the pan. You should have warned us about

:17:17. > :17:27.that! Health and safety. I did it in rehearsal. That's lovely. It is

:17:27. > :17:30.

:17:30. > :17:38.nice. The orange juice goes in. The sugar goes in. And then what

:17:38. > :17:47.happens is, we boil all this up for about 10 to 15 minutes and we end

:17:47. > :17:54.up with a lovey whisky sirpy orange juice conkonction.

:17:54. > :18:04.Then in go the little kumquats. Turn everything off and scoop that

:18:04. > :18:05.

:18:05. > :18:10.out. It's always the last bit that gets me flustered. You're a little

:18:10. > :18:17.bit flustered. I am. And we do three like that, because that's the

:18:17. > :18:23.way we do it, because that's the way we're going to eat, but a big

:18:23. > :18:31.pile if you're going to have a party. Can I ask a quick question,

:18:31. > :18:40.what could we do if we didn't want haggis? You could leave the onions

:18:40. > :18:47.out or put chick peas in. What about corned beef? That would be

:18:47. > :18:53.nice! The sauce smells amazing.

:18:53. > :19:03.couldn't taste them, unfortunately. I should have made you just an

:19:03. > :19:07.

:19:07. > :19:14.onion one. No, that's fine. Joo did you dip it in the sauce? Yes. Can I

:19:14. > :19:19.double dip. We're amongst friends. Go to the website and you'll find

:19:19. > :19:25.all of today's recipies. It's nearly Christmas and freezing cold,

:19:25. > :19:29.so probably the last thing you want to do is run around in shorts and

:19:29. > :19:34.getting knocked into cold water, unless you're competing in Winter

:19:34. > :19:44.unless you're competing in Winter Wipeout.

:19:44. > :19:44.

:19:44. > :19:54.4 Colour coding, very useful. This is Deb in the green. You're going

:19:54. > :19:58.

:19:58. > :20:04.to go last. Deb, you're too slow, calm down and watch me go.

:20:04. > :20:11.Neck-and-neck on the nasty snowballs. And it's two for one

:20:11. > :20:21.ladies' night down at granny's house. And they are heading down

:20:21. > :20:34.

:20:35. > :20:40.the big balls markers. Go on girls! Ow! So Deb, or is that

:20:40. > :20:50.Meg reaches the end in seven minutes, but the winner is Meg, or

:20:50. > :20:54.

:20:54. > :21:03.Deb. Well done to...that one. Friendship over. That's it! And you

:21:03. > :21:09.can dive into some Winter Wipeout on Saturday at six on BBC One.

:21:09. > :21:16.Nessa in Gavin & Stacey she wrote her own catch phrase as everyone up

:21:16. > :21:24.and down the country asked what's occurrin'. I can't do that, will

:21:24. > :21:29.you do it for us, please, Ruth? What's occurrin'. It Now she is

:21:29. > :21:34.returning to our screens with the third of her Christmas crackers.

:21:34. > :21:43.What are you doing now? # This and that

:21:43. > :21:48.# It's none of your business that I'm a face #. # I don't know what

:21:48. > :21:56.you're doing this is my land # This is my place

:21:56. > :22:01.# My territory. # Don't go on about it, I just came to see the boy.

:22:02. > :22:11.# The boy loves you # He looks at you and says

:22:11. > :22:20.#, "Yes, I love you " # But he's a Welsh boy he don't

:22:20. > :22:27.want your Essex BLEEP # Welcome to the show. You'll have to

:22:27. > :22:34.explain the show. Yes, my Christmas Cracker and James was my guest and

:22:34. > :22:38.I thought it might be fun to see if we could make up on the spur of the

:22:38. > :22:44.moment a musical Gavin & Stacey. And what you saw there was a

:22:44. > :22:49.completely made up moment. And we had a bit of a laugh doing it.

:22:49. > :22:57.got half Welsh children and that's the thing all the time. I don't

:22:57. > :23:02.care what they are, but my family go they're half English and her

:23:02. > :23:08.family say they're Welsh. It is very complicated. There have been

:23:08. > :23:13.rumours off the back of that that there is going to be Gavin & Stacey

:23:13. > :23:22.the musical. We've got Coronation Street the musical, I heard. Are

:23:22. > :23:27.you going to do it? It was a joke. We seerlly don't have any plans. --

:23:27. > :23:33.seersly don't have any plans to do it. We just did that little bit.

:23:33. > :23:40.But the press took off with it. should do it? The problem is, James

:23:40. > :23:45.and I love working together but we hardly have any time. So it's

:23:45. > :23:51.finding time to do it because we'd like to write a special for Gavin &

:23:51. > :23:57.Stacey. Oh! We always said we'd do a special, it's nothing new from

:23:57. > :24:04.what we've said but it is literally finding the time. He's off to

:24:04. > :24:09.America with his play and I've got my new series coming out, Stella.

:24:09. > :24:14.Are you going to do any more plays? I've done one play in the last 16

:24:14. > :24:21.years and I take my hat off to people doing it. James is brilliant

:24:21. > :24:28.in his West End show. I've not seen it, but the reviews are good.

:24:28. > :24:36.brilliant. I thought if I could do it with talkback in my ear, I could

:24:36. > :24:41.do it, I wouldn't forget the lines. But if it's a musical you can just

:24:41. > :24:46.sing anything. Night after night making it up. You mentioned Stella

:24:46. > :24:52.there. And this is a new programme you've got coming out on Sky that

:24:52. > :24:57.you wrote? Yes, Stella is a ten- part comedy drama series for Sky

:24:57. > :25:01.and it comes out in January. I created it and wrote a lot of the

:25:02. > :25:07.episodes and we had other writers in as well. And my production

:25:07. > :25:14.company have made it and it's taken two years from start to finish. My

:25:14. > :25:18.husband is the series producer on it. It's a home-grown series. It's

:25:18. > :25:22.quite scary going from something like Gavin & Stacey, where it was

:25:22. > :25:30.very successful, you then obviously have to face up to the fact that

:25:30. > :25:36.people might go, "Oh, it wasn't as good as Gavin & Stacey." But is it

:25:36. > :25:43.the same principle because that want a comedy, it was comedy ideas?

:25:43. > :25:48.Yes, originally the producer at Sky wanted it to be a sitcom. And I

:25:48. > :25:55.realised I couldn't write that kind of comedy. I producer a single

:25:55. > :25:59.camera. It's set in the Welsh Valies and I play Stella and it's

:25:59. > :26:04.about Stella's life. And there was a time when you weren't going to

:26:04. > :26:09.set it in Wales because of the Gavin & Stacey thing? Absolutely.

:26:09. > :26:18.When we were originally talking about who Stella was, we thought we

:26:18. > :26:23.could move it to Bristol. We could go home every night, the Severn

:26:23. > :26:29.Bridge tolls would be a bit high, but then I thought I know about

:26:29. > :26:35.Wales, let's set it there. And the large is so sing-songy that it sets

:26:35. > :26:43.testify up. It is. It's lovely. Where I set it, in the Valies is

:26:43. > :26:50.very different from Barry skx Island. It's a very different

:26:50. > :26:58.accent. And you say things like what's occurrin', and crackin, a

:26:58. > :27:08.lush or a tidy. So I had to make sure there wasn't any of those

:27:08. > :27:09.

:27:09. > :27:19.phrases so they didn't overlap. it's all about the vocabulary.

:27:19. > :27:19.

:27:20. > :27:29.because in the Valies you say," I go to do my shopping, and I do this

:27:29. > :27:34.and I go to do that," there's a lot of, "I go to do" in it. I think why

:27:34. > :27:38.Gavin & Stacey worked and why Stella appeals is because you know

:27:38. > :27:43.somebody like that and you know those situations do occur in real

:27:43. > :27:49.life. And I think that's why people enjoy it. That's what we were

:27:49. > :27:54.hoping to achieve. I play Stella, a woman in her early 40s and it's

:27:54. > :27:58.about the people in her life. There's a dramatic story line that

:27:58. > :28:03.overrides the ten episodes and within each episode there is an

:28:03. > :28:11.event that takes place as well. It's quite a full series. Let's

:28:11. > :28:21.have a look. Detoxing. There's nothing of you, love. You want to

:28:21. > :28:23.

:28:23. > :28:30.get that Carol vaudman she's younger than you. Charming.

:28:30. > :28:40.Where have you put my costume? are you on about? The environment

:28:40. > :28:46.thing. Oh, you haven't done it. I have. It's as nans. Nan can't sow.

:28:46. > :28:52.If you haven't done it, don't lie. It makes it worse. Have you been in

:28:52. > :28:57.that situation. Oh, yes. I get a letter saying today is the school

:28:57. > :29:05.play. And your inventiveness comes to the fore.

:29:06. > :29:11.Do you find itesseer to act in -- easier to act in things you've

:29:11. > :29:16.written? In some ways if you're acting in somebody else's project

:29:16. > :29:21.your job is to turn up on the day and just act. But with this,

:29:21. > :29:26.because our production company made it and it's taken two years of our

:29:26. > :29:31.life you're far more involved with the whole process. So they're two

:29:31. > :29:35.different experiences and I enjoyed both of them. With the process of

:29:35. > :29:39.writing I love writing and saying the lines out loud. And for all the

:29:39. > :29:46.different characters that are in Stella it's a joy to be able to

:29:46. > :29:55.sort of act all of them. Ruth, back to your Christmas Cracker, a great

:29:56. > :30:03.line-up of guests you have. Lulu, Micky Flannigan, the Manic Street

:30:03. > :30:08.Preachers all on the show. And are you linking them with sketches?

:30:08. > :30:16.no scratches. That just came out. I said to James, "Shall we try and

:30:16. > :30:24.sing a song, but if it's rubbish we'll just cut it out. Because it's

:30:24. > :30:31.not live." So did you do it in the middle of the summer? No, last week.

:30:31. > :30:39.If you have any questions for Ruth do get in touch.

:30:39. > :30:49.Ready for a blast from the past? All we want is your thoughts on

:30:49. > :30:54.

:30:54. > :31:02.President Mandela has received a documentious welcome on the streets

:31:02. > :31:08.of London. He paid tribute to those who

:31:08. > :31:14.campaigned against racism. The Government is planning a total

:31:15. > :31:22.ban on the private ownership of handguns.

:31:22. > :31:32.Michael Jackson is to be divorced after only a few months after

:31:32. > :31:43.

:31:44. > :31:53.What's so funny? Where have you guys been? It's only the hottest-

:31:54. > :32:00.

:32:00. > :32:10.selling toy this Christmas. Where's your Christmas spirit?

:32:10. > :32:11.

:32:11. > :32:20.no. What year's that? I've managed to erase Peter Andre out of my mine,

:32:20. > :32:26.so I don't know the year. 2000. Why are we so wsh at this. When we --

:32:26. > :32:32.so rubbish at this? When we first started we were good. I don't know,

:32:32. > :32:36.now we're clouded. I don't know, '99. Time to look at what you've

:32:36. > :32:43.cooked this week. Although we are putting the record straight. Last

:32:43. > :32:49.week we had the fantastic Mark Cavendish and his mum on the show.

:32:50. > :32:57.And she sent in a picture of her cooking. We didn't know it was

:32:57. > :33:06.Mark's mum. Are you saying that if we had, she'd have gone to the top?

:33:06. > :33:13.Of course, she's on our side of the rope! This is Mark's lovely mum and

:33:13. > :33:23.ages ago she made the salmon and justice has now been done for you.

:33:23. > :33:24.

:33:24. > :33:31.And this is Stu and Ellie Sale from Greater Manchester. Why in the

:33:31. > :33:36.banana costumes? We will never know. That could be a good idea for

:33:36. > :33:41.photos, in your fancy dress outfits. If you've got a good one, because

:33:41. > :33:46.people do fancy dress at this time of the year. I always think the

:33:46. > :33:56.best themes are sports people, because everyone can do that, or go

:33:56. > :33:59.

:33:59. > :34:03.for ...I was going to say Essex, but is that rude? Possibly? Reality

:34:03. > :34:13.television stars. I thought I was being rude there, because you're

:34:13. > :34:14.

:34:14. > :34:24.taking the Micky dressing up like that. I don't know. Back to the

:34:24. > :34:28.

:34:28. > :34:36.fridge. All the ladies who made the biscuits and they've got cut outs

:34:36. > :34:42.of all of us. Lou is there, I'm there and.....

:34:42. > :34:50.Which football kit is that? I don't know.

:34:50. > :34:55.You did make it in, we just cut it off. All right. Do keep your photos

:34:56. > :35:01.coming in, of whatever person you want to be.

:35:01. > :35:07.want to be. What are we cooking, Simon? We are

:35:07. > :35:13.going small today. Imagine, Christmas Day. We've had the turkey.

:35:13. > :35:22.And you've got the leftovers. Sandwiches. We're going better than

:35:22. > :35:32.that, we're going for little turkey pot pies.

:35:32. > :35:35.

:35:36. > :35:41.So, turkey, spare red wine, carrots, onion, chilli, garlic, stock and

:35:41. > :35:49.short-crust pastry. In here, a little bit of bacon. So you've had

:35:49. > :35:53.the bacon for breakfast on Boxing Day. Slice or chop or dies whatever

:35:53. > :35:59.you want to do with the onion and I'll do similar with the carrot.

:36:00. > :36:04.This is making a simple casserole. This week, I did one of the best

:36:04. > :36:10.things I've ever done. I went to Prime Minister's Question Time.

:36:10. > :36:15.you? It was just amazing. Have you been ever? No. If you get a chance

:36:15. > :36:21.to go, because you can go there in the gallery. It's like sport. They

:36:21. > :36:25.all start wandering in and Ed Miliband comes in and he's looking

:36:25. > :36:32.edgy, getting ready for his hammering of Cameron. And then

:36:32. > :36:37.Cameron comes in. It's like boxing. Is it tactical? I think they should

:36:37. > :36:43.work more tactics. Because they make a lot of noise. If I was them

:36:44. > :36:50.I'd get my backbenchers to be quiet and only get them to make a noise

:36:50. > :36:55.when I indicated. To show I was in control! It was amazing. A really

:36:56. > :37:05.great experience. I think if you were leading the word "democracy"

:37:06. > :37:06.

:37:06. > :37:10.might go quite quickly. If or when? It will probably happen one day.

:37:10. > :37:19.Probably when we've made a success of the Olympics and people realise

:37:19. > :37:26.we are the champions. Now, we're making a casserole. Normally we

:37:26. > :37:32.take our time and cook is nice and slowly. I've done small chunks. Did

:37:32. > :37:38.we want bigger? It really doesn't matter. We are doing small, but you

:37:38. > :37:44.can do a large one. If you have a pan like this that can go in the

:37:44. > :37:54.oven chuck everything in the pan and in it goes. My favourite is

:37:54. > :37:59.

:37:59. > :38:08.chicken and chorizo. Did you put stock in it or a creamy sauce?

:38:08. > :38:17.stock. Bacon, onion, carrot and chuck in the tomato puree and cook

:38:17. > :38:27.it for about four or five minutes to lose the bitter taste. Then

:38:27. > :38:31.

:38:31. > :38:36.chuck in -- assuming it has cooked for four or five minutes. Chuck in

:38:36. > :38:42.everything else. If you're having beef on Christmas Day and it's left

:38:42. > :38:48.over, chuck that in. It's all about the leftover stuff you've got.

:38:48. > :38:55.Sprouts, potatoes. Why are you using red wine with turkey? I like

:38:55. > :39:02.it. I think the depth of flavour works well. If you do a white wine

:39:02. > :39:08.with stock it's never as lovely in a pie. The red wine gives you the

:39:08. > :39:12.richness. Traditionally, with white meat, yes, you'd expect to use a

:39:12. > :39:20.white wine, but not necessarily. Now, we're doing a pot pie so this

:39:20. > :39:28.has got to go cold. If it isn't cold when you put the pastry on top,

:39:28. > :39:38.it will sink. So it has to be cold, the pie filling, to keep the pastry

:39:38. > :39:40.

:39:40. > :39:45.crispy. Is that the same with all pies? Yes. Next job, Tim. Roll out

:39:45. > :39:52.the short-crust pacery. Are you cooking on Christmas Day? I'm not

:39:52. > :39:57.sure yet. I haven't worked out all the finer details. How about you?

:39:57. > :40:05.am. We have everybody coming to us on Christmas Day. So we are having

:40:05. > :40:11.turkey. I like it. How about goose? I always say I'll have a change and

:40:11. > :40:21.do beef one year, but next week on the show we're doing venison

:40:21. > :40:23.

:40:23. > :40:33.Wellington. Here are the little ramikins. A bit

:40:33. > :40:34.

:40:34. > :40:43.of egg wash around there and spoon into each the lovely pie mix.

:40:43. > :40:48.out one lid. Just press it, like that. But before the lid goes on,

:40:48. > :40:58.cut a little rim around the top so it holds it in place. In fact,

:40:58. > :41:07.we'll have to do a liinger pie lid than that. So, take a thin strip of

:41:07. > :41:14.pacery and place it around the edge. And then another one. A little egg

:41:14. > :41:20.wash on it. Pop the lid on it and crimp it round like that and then

:41:20. > :41:26.we'll trim it. You know when we started this five years ago, did

:41:26. > :41:32.you ever imagine you'd be crimping pies for Christmas? I don't think I

:41:32. > :41:42.was thinking that, no. If you do a big one it's exactly

:41:42. > :41:42.

:41:42. > :41:47.the same principle. Then trial the edge. Cut it, come down. Beautiful.

:41:47. > :41:54.And then just a little hole in the top for the steam to come out and

:41:54. > :42:03.then egg wash again. And always, for me, if you've got the time, egg

:42:03. > :42:13.wash, in the fridge so it sets, more egg wash so it's really,

:42:13. > :42:19.

:42:19. > :42:26.really shiny. And we made these in advance. They are good things to

:42:26. > :42:32.make pies. Yes, and you can serve it with a big bowl of potato,

:42:32. > :42:38.vegetables, or salad, whatever you've got. Ah, they're slightly

:42:38. > :42:48.bigger than party like a celebrity food. They're quite big. Yes, but

:42:48. > :42:58.you could do a themable-sized one. I don't want to eat the turkey, but

:42:58. > :43:03.

:43:04. > :43:12.I really want to taste the pastry. See, the red wine works. It's like

:43:12. > :43:19.cluck and surf. This is very nice flutedness here. I don't think we

:43:19. > :43:29.would have got that from the one you were doing. All right, steady.

:43:29. > :43:31.

:43:31. > :43:41.I used to love slicing the pastry rim off when my mum cooked. Oh, yes,

:43:41. > :43:41.

:43:42. > :43:51.a little bit of a chilli kick. pudding? A chocolate and cranberry

:43:52. > :43:53.

:43:53. > :44:00.pudding? A chocolate and cranberry rule yard -- roulade.

:44:00. > :44:06.Now, Rev. I imagine I'll have quite a large choir in my church. We must

:44:06. > :44:14.keep in touch when we're both vicars. I didn't know you had put

:44:14. > :44:20.yourself up for ordination? Yes, your Bishop was enthusiastic. He'd

:44:20. > :44:26.have written a glowing reference, as I'm sure you will. Yes. I can't

:44:26. > :44:31.decide whether I prefer a rural parish, or Piccadilly. Are you sure

:44:31. > :44:39.you want to an priest? What I realised on the course is how much

:44:39. > :44:46.better I'd be than all the other people there. I shouldn't say that.

:44:46. > :44:54.Say what? Bishops frown upon people who are certain they've been called

:44:54. > :45:01.by God. It's good to be doubtful. Quite right. Don't write it down.

:45:01. > :45:06.You've never considered a cathedral. Never interested in that. I joined

:45:06. > :45:14.the church to become a parish priest in a church like this.

:45:14. > :45:20.see, to do the doubtful, humble thing. You're very good at it.

:45:20. > :45:28.the truth. No, you're brilliant. have no interest in becoming Bishop.

:45:28. > :45:34.And you can watch that on Thursday at 9pm on BBC Two.

:45:34. > :45:44.Now, our next guests have combined forces on a Christmas album, but

:45:44. > :45:52.

:45:52. > :45:59.before that, all their hits came # All my life

:45:59. > :46:09.# Watching a miracle # All my life

:46:09. > :46:12.

:46:12. > :46:19.# Pending a miracle # Oh, oh, oh #

:46:19. > :46:24.Yes, Tom Smith and Andy Burrows are here, who have made up a new band

:46:24. > :46:28.called Smith and Burrows. You got a band together and then you decided

:46:28. > :46:34.to put together a Christmas album. Is that what happened? What

:46:34. > :46:38.happened? Yeah, that is what happened. It started off non-

:46:39. > :46:45.festive. Just a chance for us to get into a studio. And it grew.

:46:45. > :46:51.were friends and you were sat in a pub, am I right? And you said, "We

:46:51. > :46:58.should work together? Yes, and then it took three or four years for it

:46:59. > :47:04.to happen. Really? Yeah, we've been busy. And we started on a day in

:47:04. > :47:11.May. Is it a nice experience because you're used to writing in a

:47:11. > :47:17.band and then suddenly you're taken out of that comfort zone. Is it

:47:17. > :47:23.refreshing? That's why we tried it to see if there was any point of us

:47:23. > :47:31.working together. And it wasn't until song three that you brought

:47:31. > :47:40.in a song. So you started just by saying, "We're going to do some

:47:41. > :47:50.cover songs" and then you brought in a song. We did Black and

:47:51. > :47:56.

:47:56. > :48:02.gentleman zoo's opbl you. -- ya yazyoo's Only You.

:48:02. > :48:07.I have to say, I can't stop listening to this album. It's

:48:07. > :48:13.really great. What made you decide to write a Christmas album? Well

:48:13. > :48:20.those first two songs had a wintery feel about them. And we couldn't

:48:20. > :48:29.find too many we could do, so we wrote our own and it...Smobled.

:48:29. > :48:34.you describe -- snowballed. Can you describe the songs though, because

:48:34. > :48:40.they're not up Christmas songs. they're down Christmas songs.

:48:40. > :48:46.Climbs can be a bit of a time for reflection. It's a bit of a winter

:48:46. > :48:53.warmer. A drunken glow. It gives people something different if you

:48:53. > :48:56.don't want the typical Christmas song and you appreciate the music

:48:56. > :49:01.element and the whole package on that particular album. I think

:49:02. > :49:11.that's what comes across. Yes, it's more luck than judgment. Which is

:49:11. > :49:17.what you wanted. You wrote that song When The Thames Froze. And

:49:17. > :49:21.you're going to be singing that for us at the end. Did you think it was

:49:21. > :49:27.more like the Editors? Well I've been trying to write a Christmas

:49:27. > :49:34.song every year, because you hear all the old ones on the radio. But

:49:34. > :49:40.I don't think they one could be put out as a Christmas song. I'd have

:49:40. > :49:43.to float it with the other three, we're a democracy. What do the

:49:43. > :49:50.Editors think of you doing Christmas songs? Some of them like

:49:50. > :49:55.it, some don't. I have to ask you about Razorlight. You left it, a

:49:55. > :50:01.very successful band. Have you and Johnny spoken since? No, we haven't.

:50:01. > :50:11.We live about five minutes apart, I believe. Christmas is a time for

:50:11. > :50:11.

:50:11. > :50:20.that. That's it. Take around your album and knock on his door. James

:50:20. > :50:26.Harris says, "Will there be a chance of a supergroup between your

:50:26. > :50:34.bands?" We've got our drummer. We've got two drummers, great.

:50:34. > :50:41.Three. Lots of drummers and us two. And you're a drummer. Oh, yeah, I'm

:50:41. > :50:46.a drummer. Is this something you're going to carry on doing? Are there

:50:46. > :50:52.more albums in the pipeline? Yes, when the time is right. There are

:50:52. > :51:00.four original songs on the album and we're excited about what we've

:51:00. > :51:07.done so we're going to make a proper record, but not Christmas.

:51:07. > :51:11.You're already on tour at the moment? Yes we are. Where is it?

:51:12. > :51:17.The union chapel. They're going to be banging out

:51:17. > :51:22.their tune later in the programme. So tweet questions for them or Ruth

:51:22. > :51:26.So tweet questions for them or Ruth Jones. Have you done many

:51:26. > :51:33.interviews together, by the way? Yes, we've done a lot. But nothing

:51:33. > :51:40.as amazing as this. I'm pleased you said that. Still a lot to squeeze

:51:40. > :51:44.in today. Steve Jobs wasn't always a Billion

:51:44. > :51:50.Dollar Hippy. He destroyed everything I'd spent ten years

:51:50. > :51:59.working for. Simon is cooking celeriac and

:51:59. > :52:02.mushroom vol-au-vents. And there's tourettes: I swear I can sing.

:52:02. > :52:06.It causes voluntary sounds and movements.

:52:07. > :52:10.OK, we are joined in the kitchen right now by Ruth. What are we

:52:10. > :52:17.right now by Ruth. What are we cooking?

:52:17. > :52:25.We're doing a chocolate and cranberry rulard. It's like a yule

:52:25. > :52:32.log, but slightly different. I like that word "rulard." It's a good

:52:32. > :52:37.word, or we can call it log. You can use fresh cranberries in this,

:52:37. > :52:47.but they're so bitter cook them with a load of sugar. If you eat

:52:47. > :52:52.

:52:52. > :53:01.one raw you really know about it. Did we cook these ourselves?

:53:01. > :53:09.they're not. Fresh rasberry puree. Icing sugar, castor sugar, cocoa

:53:09. > :53:18.powder and flour. Loads of egg whites that we've whisked. So first

:53:19. > :53:28.of all, start whisking a add the castor shiing yar into it. This --

:53:29. > :53:30.

:53:30. > :53:37.sugar into it. Do you cook at home? Sometimes I do, but I've got an Aga

:53:37. > :53:45.and I don't know how to do it. You have to put a cold shelf in. Yes,

:53:45. > :53:51.because it's the same temperature. My sister is a great cooker. I do

:53:51. > :53:58.all the shop-bought cakes and she makes them all. She's brilliant.

:53:58. > :54:03.you have another cooker as well as your Aga, because a lot of people

:54:03. > :54:08.do. We have one of those little portable ones, but that's a bit

:54:08. > :54:14.like camping. I should go on a course to learn how to use it

:54:14. > :54:24.properly. Yes, it is something you have to learn. Or you just let your

:54:24. > :54:27.

:54:27. > :54:35.husband do it! So, we're doing this a little bit too quickly really.

:54:35. > :54:43.Whisk the egg whites and the castor sugar so is keeps going glossy.

:54:43. > :54:51.Beautifully done. I remember this from home economics. Well done!

:54:51. > :54:55.It's starting to get glossy, so add the cornflour. When Simon and Tim

:54:55. > :55:00.were cooking we were talking about weight loss, because I said how

:55:00. > :55:08.amazing you looked. And we were talking about how you lost weight.

:55:08. > :55:14.But you did it over two years. it's funny because it got into the

:55:15. > :55:19.press recently, and people were talking about, "Ruth's sudden

:55:20. > :55:28.weight loss," but it took two years. And I did it the old-fashioned way.

:55:28. > :55:34.Did you? Yes, you can just go on- line and get the calorie value of

:55:34. > :55:39.chicken or something. There are so many quick-fixes. Which work for a

:55:39. > :55:45.small period of time, but I think to count calories, be careful over

:55:46. > :55:50.a period of time. And you have to accept that you have to be patient.

:55:50. > :55:59.Patience is the biggest and best ingredient. I've still got a couple

:55:59. > :56:05.of stone to go, so it ain't over yet. Really, do you want to lose

:56:05. > :56:10.more? I did it because of this healthy BMI thing and I wanted to

:56:11. > :56:16.get my BMI right. And according to the charts I wanted to be a couple

:56:16. > :56:23.of stone lighter. You never know, it may not happen. If it doesn't

:56:24. > :56:33.happen, it doesn't happen. Good attitude. Spoon all of that into

:56:34. > :56:34.

:56:34. > :56:40.there. This is a chocolate mering, type of thing. This is the outside.

:56:40. > :56:43.You know like your traditional Christmas log is sponge, isn't it?

:56:43. > :56:48.Yes which is quite heavy, actually after Christmas dinner. This might

:56:48. > :56:58.be a bit lighter. Yes, it will be lighter. Although there is no fat

:56:58. > :57:06.

:57:06. > :57:13.in a log, is there? Is there not? In a meringue. No, it's just egg

:57:13. > :57:20.whites and sugar. I like that texture. It's really glossy. You

:57:20. > :57:26.can't beat it. Even though we've done it really, really quickly,

:57:26. > :57:33.it's still quite glossy. But if you cook it for a minute too longer,

:57:33. > :57:42.it's all over and you have to start again. But you want a certain

:57:42. > :57:50.amount of crackle. My mum makes fantastic merangue. There is an art

:57:50. > :57:56.to it. So we want to end up with crispy on

:57:56. > :58:03.the outside and chewy in the middle. So the next thing to do, to turn it

:58:03. > :58:08.out is pop another piece of paper on there and dust it with icing

:58:08. > :58:14.sugar, to stay nice and sweet. There's that hint of chocolate,

:58:14. > :58:20.which is nice. That's it. There's not loads and loads of chocolate in

:58:20. > :58:29.it. If you get that intense chocolate powder, that's good for

:58:29. > :58:39.you, isn't it? Yes. I have to find all the reasons for justifying

:58:39. > :58:45.eating this amazing pudding. Oh, you did that very comfortably.

:58:45. > :58:52.peel off the paper, and it doesn't matter if you break little bits of

:58:52. > :58:59.the edging off, because we want that rough look. Can I taste a

:58:59. > :59:09.little bit? I do that with be kids, I check their food and take four

:59:09. > :59:11.

:59:11. > :59:21.booing scoops. Oh, that's the danger. -- four big scoops.

:59:21. > :59:30.

:59:30. > :59:36.Now, a spread of rasberry on there. So, we've got. That will do, Ruth,

:59:36. > :59:41.that's fine. All of the rasberry and a liberal sprinkling of

:59:41. > :59:49.cranberries on the top. Is this just blended rasberries is that all

:59:49. > :59:57.it is? It is. But you could add a little bit of booze if you wanted.

:59:57. > :00:05.Then two more things to do. Scrape all of this....Try As hard as I

:00:05. > :00:12.might, I cannot say that has no calories! No, absolutely not.

:00:12. > :00:20.I can see the little flecks of vanilla. Simon does everything

:00:20. > :00:25.properly, with the proper vanilla pods. Yes, they are dear, so you

:00:25. > :00:33.can use the vanilla flakes. That works fine as well. This is the

:00:33. > :00:40.comedy value. You have to do it with your leg in the air. We're

:00:40. > :00:46.going to roll short ways and it doesn't matter if it cracks. Just

:00:46. > :00:53.keep going. You see, Mrs Phillips had a piece over the top and you

:00:53. > :01:03.went like that. Is this what I'm going to do? You have to be comfort.

:01:03. > :01:13.This will roll! Can we just do that! Beautiful. Now, the joy ofing

:01:13. > :01:19.

:01:19. > :01:25.is like a merangue rule yard gshgsh rulard it's like a worm. I don't

:01:25. > :01:32.think we should talk about worms. Then garnish with rasberries around

:01:32. > :01:39.the edge. Could you grab the side plates. And

:01:39. > :01:44.then chocolate sauce. How did you make the chocolate sauce? Equal

:01:44. > :01:53.quantities of butter, sugar, chocolate and a little water to

:01:53. > :01:58.keep it thinner. Shall everyone just dive in with a

:01:58. > :02:05.fork. And it's gooey and sticky and you have the flavourers in there.

:02:05. > :02:15.What are me and the guys cooking? Vol-au-vents, the classic Christmas

:02:15. > :02:16.

:02:16. > :02:26.dish. That's delicious. Now, concentrate the mind and try

:02:26. > :02:36.

:02:36. > :02:45.to name the year in your second to name the year in your second

:02:45. > :02:50.part of dej -- Deja View. President Mandela has received a

:02:51. > :02:57.tumultuous welcome on the streets of London. The Government is

:02:57. > :03:03.discussing tonight a total ban on private handguns.

:03:03. > :03:13.Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley are to be divorced after

:03:13. > :03:51.

:03:51. > :03:57.Divorce for Jackson and jingle all the way. But what year? I went '99,

:03:57. > :04:05.Simon went 2000. Andy Burrows was at that top of the pops, watching

:04:05. > :04:13.in the audience and he's just told me the year. What do you think?

:04:14. > :04:22.Wrong. You said '99. But I got it wrong. Andy just told me. I'm going

:04:22. > :04:30.to go with '95. One of you has it right. Onwards and upwards. Wayne?

:04:30. > :04:40.This drink is a taste of Christmas. Mincemeat. Lots of plump fruit in

:04:40. > :04:40.

:04:40. > :04:46.it, sultanas, apples, spices and stewed fruits in there. And the

:04:46. > :04:50.suet. Which gives it the mice, round, full flavour. So a couple of

:04:50. > :04:57.teaspoons. This is mince pie filling and it has everything you

:04:57. > :05:04.want to have in Christmas spices and mix with cognac and rum. Cognac

:05:04. > :05:12.is fresh and fruity and the rum has the vanilla sweetness and a bit

:05:12. > :05:19.more dry. Equal measures of cognac and golden rum. It's quite potent

:05:19. > :05:29.for a Sunday morning! Luckily we've only got one cocktail today!

:05:29. > :05:31.

:05:31. > :05:41.will be nice and warming. And a Clementine. I like warm alcoholic

:05:41. > :05:41.

:05:41. > :05:47.drinks in the winter like mulled wine. I do like a cocktail. I had

:05:47. > :05:57.Ameretto with orange juice in it? Yes, lovely.

:05:57. > :06:01.Give it a shake to combine it all. The Clementine gives it the lovely

:06:01. > :06:09.freshness. It is a boozey drink but it's a

:06:09. > :06:16.real Christmas warmer and a really lovely balance of flavours.

:06:16. > :06:21.The fine strain because you don't want the pulp of the mincemeat.

:06:21. > :06:26.can't imagine, you know sometimes when you make a drink, Wayne, I can

:06:26. > :06:32.imagine what it will taste like but I can't imagine what it will be

:06:32. > :06:42.like with the mincemeat in there. It will surprise you. It will taste

:06:42. > :06:45.

:06:45. > :06:50.so Christmassy. Yeah, it's lovely! It tastes like Christmas. It is,

:06:50. > :06:55.it's just a Christmas favour flavour. Oh, that's really nice.

:06:55. > :07:05.You can't really taste the mincemeat it's just Christmassy.

:07:05. > :07:05.

:07:05. > :07:10.Could you heat that up? Yeah, in a mug! Every night! It's very good.

:07:10. > :07:18.If you want to make Wayne's mincemeat cocktail go to the

:07:18. > :07:26.website to find the recipe. long now until Tom Smith and Andy

:07:26. > :07:32.Burrows give us an acoustic burst of When The Thames Froze.

:07:32. > :07:42.But now, this is Steve Jobs: Billion Dollar Hippy.

:07:42. > :07:45.The most serious disagreement was between Steve Jobs and the man he'd

:07:45. > :07:51.made Chief Executivetive. The two men were battling observer the

:07:51. > :07:58.future of Apple. I was focused on the cash flow of

:07:58. > :08:02.the Apple too. We had to have that coming in. Steve wanted to drop the

:08:02. > :08:08.price of the Mackintosh and put more marketing against the

:08:08. > :08:17.Mackintosh. I felt we couldn't afford that. 30-year-old Jobs had

:08:17. > :08:22.picked a fight with a tremendous foe. I Steve didn't know how the

:08:22. > :08:28.play the games. I said, Steve, I'm going to the board of directors. He

:08:28. > :08:34.didn't think I'd do that, but I did. And the board said, "We agree with

:08:34. > :08:41.John and we don't agree with you, Steve and they asked him to step

:08:41. > :08:48.down from heading the Mackintosh division." Eleven years later,

:08:48. > :08:52.Steve was still bitter? When can I say? I hired the wrong guy and he

:08:52. > :09:02.destroyed everything I'd spent ten years working for. Starting with me,

:09:02. > :09:03.

:09:03. > :09:13.but that wasn't the saddest part. I'd have gladly left Apple if it

:09:13. > :09:13.

:09:13. > :09:19.had turned out how I wanted it to Now we've looked at men's presents

:09:19. > :09:25.and women's presents, so now, all we have to talk about are

:09:25. > :09:34.children's presents? Ruth, you're going to help us? Yes, looking for

:09:34. > :09:42.my nieces and negative use. How old are they? A mixture. From 16 to two.

:09:42. > :09:47.The first idea is the ride-in Dalek. Let's show you the footage of the

:09:47. > :09:54.little boy riding around in this earlier. You could drive it

:09:54. > :10:01.yourself? If you're aged three to six. A big six-year-old won't

:10:01. > :10:09.manage it. And how chilled out does he look! My friend, Lucy, who is

:10:09. > :10:15.inier 40s is terrified of Daleks. That might be good for her. What's

:10:15. > :10:22.the eldest you can be. Six, but if you're particularly big, it may not

:10:22. > :10:32.be suitable. And how much is it? It's not cheap. It's �200. I love

:10:32. > :10:37.

:10:37. > :10:42.it. That has a hums up. Next, the Barbie design principles. Barbie is

:10:42. > :10:48.62 years old and still looking good. Having little daughters I've had to

:10:48. > :10:55.spend all my life changing things, and all the little bits of plastic

:10:55. > :11:03.go missing all the time. I was an Action Girl when I was younger, and

:11:03. > :11:12.I cut off her hair to turn into Action Man. How much are they?

:11:12. > :11:20.We have one here. Would you wear one of them? I think it would look

:11:20. > :11:26.rather strange in my hair. What is this? This is a Royal Navy

:11:26. > :11:33.destroyer. It's a 516 piece replica set, with a rotating gun and all

:11:33. > :11:42.the little pieces lift up. teaches you how to be a destroyer.

:11:42. > :11:48.Yes, teaches about war early on. it's not Lego? No, it's by

:11:48. > :11:58.character building. It will keep the kids quiet for

:11:58. > :12:00.

:12:00. > :12:05.ages. Did you give us a price on that? That one is �49.99. This is

:12:05. > :12:10.the Gelarti Design Studio. It comes with the little stickers and four

:12:10. > :12:16.gels so you can colour them in. And you can do it on the move to keep

:12:16. > :12:24.the little ones quiet. Is that going to be easy to clean up?

:12:24. > :12:28.with it being gels, it is easy to clean up. A little bit sticky.

:12:28. > :12:34.experience you'll only use that once before it's gone everywhere.

:12:34. > :12:44.Yes, but it's nice to encourage creativity. I like this, everyone

:12:44. > :12:51.

:12:51. > :12:56.likes everything today. This is the Hexbug Nano Elevation Habitat Set.

:12:56. > :13:02.You just set them going and they bang into the walls and eventually

:13:02. > :13:10.they find their way around. And kids collect the things. I think my

:13:10. > :13:16.nephew might like that. How much is this one? That's �34.99. And you

:13:17. > :13:22.can get extra Nano boxes. I like that one. This is one of my

:13:22. > :13:32.favourites. I'll turn it on. This is one of the top tipped presents

:13:32. > :13:38.

:13:38. > :13:46.for this year. It's the fijyit. -- Fijit. Could you dance, please?

:13:46. > :13:54.Please dance. True to form, she has got camera shy. Perhaps you have to

:13:54. > :13:58.do it in an American accent? annoying would that be after, what?

:13:58. > :14:05.Seven minutes. So if you have a friend you want to irritate that's

:14:05. > :14:12.the one to go for. They all have different personalities. She will

:14:12. > :14:18.dance and tell jokes. They are quite cute. It looks quite safe.

:14:18. > :14:24.There's no nasty bits on it. Yes, you can Scottish it and you tickled

:14:24. > :14:30.its tummy before. Yes, and it laughed. These are really cool and

:14:30. > :14:40.what everyone wants this year, Angry Birds. There are three in the

:14:40. > :14:41.

:14:41. > :14:50.set, we have two today. The red bird is �49.99 and comes with a

:14:50. > :14:59.3.5mm jack. I'll turn it on for you to hear the quality. And they come

:14:59. > :15:07.with a docking station they will work with a 3.5mmjack. Does it do

:15:07. > :15:12.anything? No. I was waiting for it to dance. No, but there are

:15:12. > :15:17.millions of fans out there. Very cool. Moving on to this, this is

:15:17. > :15:26.beautiful. I think this is a really nice idea. Come on, play with us.

:15:26. > :15:32.This is nice for a first Christmas for a keepsake by OneFineDay. You

:15:32. > :15:39.can get different styles on the names here, and a message on the

:15:39. > :15:45.bottom, so it could be first Christmas or from grandma or a

:15:45. > :15:51.friend. Where do you get those? can get them on-line. I'd like to

:15:51. > :15:58.say, after a few drinks on Christmas Day how many adults will

:15:58. > :16:05.try to get into that Dalek! Yes, with legs hanging out.

:16:05. > :16:15.This is a story of a woman and her constant battle to overcome her

:16:15. > :16:19.

:16:19. > :16:29.verbal and physical tics. It's tourettes: A swear I can sing.

:16:29. > :16:40.

:16:40. > :16:47.NUTS. # NU tufplt dd # NUTS, absolutely NUTS. #

:16:47. > :16:52.Bum, mouth. I get weird looks, funny looks, comments. Some of it's

:16:52. > :16:59.positive. But you always evoke a reaction.

:16:59. > :17:08.Always. Even simple tasks are a bit different with Ruth. Knickers.

:17:08. > :17:16.you can never be sure of how people will react. Why? Do you think this

:17:16. > :17:22.is singing? It's tourettes syndrome, which is a neurological condition

:17:22. > :17:27.Oh, yes. Have you heard of the syndrome before? Yes, I have.

:17:27. > :17:35.you didn't recognise it straight off, did you? No, because it's so

:17:35. > :17:40.different. That's good. You will sleep well tonight.

:17:40. > :17:46.And you can watch the very touching programme Monday at nine on BBC

:17:46. > :17:54.Three. Tom and Andy, better known as Smith and Burrows are in the

:17:54. > :18:03.kitchen. How is your cooking, guys? Err...Touch And go. Do you cook?

:18:03. > :18:12.the past few years, Jamie's been seeing me through with the App.

:18:12. > :18:17.you friends? Is he standing by? you friends? Is he standing by?

:18:17. > :18:22.no, just the App. What are we going to cook? Vol-au-vents. And these

:18:23. > :18:32.guys are going to play a song for us, so we're very excited. But

:18:32. > :18:39.don't cut your fingers. Butter, curry powder, and stock. And

:18:39. > :18:45.mushrooms. Egg yolk and flaked almonds. We made a roux. The flour

:18:45. > :18:51.and the butter putting it together and added the stock and the curry

:18:51. > :18:57.powder. And the pastry, the vol-au- vents themselves are little cases.

:18:57. > :19:02.Andy, the first job, we'll have six circles, please.

:19:02. > :19:09.We've been asking people what their favourite Christmas song is and

:19:09. > :19:16.we've got some through. Lindsey Davidson says Last Christmas by

:19:16. > :19:22.Wham. What is yours? The Poges again. There is a cover version at

:19:22. > :19:29.the moment. And some songs shouldn't be covered. That's one of

:19:29. > :19:38.them. Stop the cavalry. I don't mind all of them at the right time

:19:38. > :19:44.of the year, that Christmassy spirit. What about the big Frank

:19:44. > :19:49.versus Deano. Who is your favourite? Dean did a very good

:19:49. > :19:57.have yourself a very merry Christmas. That's amazing. Simon,

:19:57. > :20:07.what do you think? I'm slightly biased, because years ago I got to

:20:07. > :20:13.sit in the chair that Frank sat in. You sat in his chair! I thought you

:20:13. > :20:20.have going to say you met him. all the guys who worked there were

:20:20. > :20:28.still working there and they were all in their 90s. No way did you

:20:28. > :20:36.fall from sitting in his chair. Don't shatter my illusions!

:20:36. > :20:41.Now a little bit of egg wash on there. What do you think about the

:20:41. > :20:46.Christmas number one now because it's so controversial. It used to

:20:46. > :20:52.be everybody put their song in the hat and then the public decided but

:20:52. > :20:58.now The X Factor has come along and they get it, or rage against the

:20:58. > :21:03.machine, it's one versus the other now. It's a little less exciting

:21:03. > :21:10.and less imaginative. So do you think they shouldn't release The X

:21:10. > :21:18.Factor one? I don't know. It's good entertainment. It's just lazy. I'd

:21:18. > :21:22.like to hear some new songs. It's become a tradition now, that The X

:21:22. > :21:28.Factor single....It's Just The X Factor against the people rebelling

:21:28. > :21:38.against it. That's the race. Yes, it's a Facebook campaign. I don't

:21:38. > :21:38.

:21:38. > :21:43.know if they're running one this year? I think it's Nirvana.

:21:43. > :21:49.So, chuck in the egg yolk and give it a good beat around. This will

:21:49. > :21:57.make it richer. And add a little touch of milk into that, or cream.

:21:57. > :22:01.And this gives it some delicious richness. You're both dads aren't

:22:01. > :22:09.you? Where will you be spending Christmas? In north London, where

:22:09. > :22:17.we live. Is the album one you've bought for

:22:17. > :22:23.friends? That is brought you close. Is there a bit of a romance? Like

:22:23. > :22:31.me and Simon? I don't know about the romance. This will help.

:22:31. > :22:36.And drop in the word "dear." So, Andy while your other half

:22:36. > :22:42.is....Take Out the middle butt of the vol-au-vents, so we can put the

:22:42. > :22:52.filling in. And John, you chuck in the mushrooms and celeriac. And

:22:52. > :23:00.make sure they're all coated. You could do prawns, chicken, whatever

:23:00. > :23:06.you want to do, really. And pretty much the final part of it is just

:23:06. > :23:13.spooning some into the middle. And Tom, this is you. The best way to

:23:13. > :23:21.make sure they stay nice and neat is hold it like that, and then go

:23:21. > :23:28.in vertically. I'm going to do a special one for myself without

:23:28. > :23:37.mushrooms. Go vertical. When did you record the album, by the way,

:23:37. > :23:42.it's called? Funny looking angels. We started it in May, and then June.

:23:42. > :23:47.Yeah, all the way through the summer. Because we were doing

:23:48. > :23:54.festivals with our other...Were trying to get into the Christmas

:23:54. > :24:00.vibe while you were doing? Yes, we had a little tree. We didn't do it

:24:00. > :24:09.in a recording studio, it was in somebody's attic. And we had tinsel

:24:09. > :24:16.and a little tree and a robin. It is weird to get into that frame

:24:16. > :24:22.of mind. Sprinkle on almond and reheat them

:24:22. > :24:27.in a warm oven and we end up with these rather beautiful little

:24:27. > :24:34.fellers here, which are the classic party dish. Can I ask you another

:24:34. > :24:44.question about recording. Did you think, "We've got to use sleigh

:24:44. > :24:50.bells on this"? We tried. We bought some, but they sounded terrible.

:24:50. > :24:57.there are sleigh bells. Yes, it's official. Now, you have to go off

:24:57. > :25:07.to get ready to play for us live. And Simon, you're finishing that

:25:07. > :25:15.And Simon, you're finishing that off. I am. Over to Louise. The Deja

:25:15. > :25:21.View year was 1996. Andy was there watching it. I kind

:25:21. > :25:27.of got it right. Are we all ready now to do live music. Yes, it's

:25:27. > :25:32.exciting. Oh, sew, we're not going over there yet. I've been told

:25:32. > :25:38.we've got to ask you some e-mails yet. How did you think of the

:25:38. > :25:45.omelettes in Gavin & Stacey. Did you eat as many as were on screen.

:25:45. > :25:49.They were a big thing? Yes, Gwen always made an omelette. That was

:25:49. > :25:56.her thing. She did a Christmas one with turkey leftovers in the

:25:56. > :26:02.Christmas special. Is that a Welsh thing? Not really. I don't know

:26:02. > :26:07.where it came from. But you can't go wrong with an omelette. It's

:26:07. > :26:13.fast food. The only problem was I had to eat a lot of them, because

:26:13. > :26:23.the art department made them on the day. It's fine just one, but too

:26:23. > :26:23.

:26:23. > :26:28.many.... And cold turkey. Yes, the affair with the turkey. Where do

:26:28. > :26:33.these Welsh sayings all come from? They're all stuff, like, with

:26:33. > :26:41.Stella, they're things that I've heard people say or I've envented

:26:41. > :26:46.stuff that I think might be said. Do you Welsh people love you for

:26:46. > :26:51.putting it on? Lush and all that? don't know if they love me, but I

:26:51. > :26:57.hope I have done them a good service and presented them well.

:26:57. > :27:04.It's been a great show. A big thanks to Ruth. We're back next

:27:04. > :27:11.Sunday with pixie lot and the wanted. But to play us out are Tom

:27:11. > :27:18.Smith and Andy Burrows. When The Thames Froze.

:27:18. > :27:28.# God damn, this snow # Will I ever get where I wanna go?

:27:28. > :27:30.

:27:30. > :27:40.# And so I skate across the Thames # Hand in hand with all my friends

:27:40. > :27:41.

:27:41. > :27:50.# Another year draws to its close # Entire London slows

:27:50. > :28:00.# When I dream tonight, I'll dream of you

:28:00. > :28:01.

:28:01. > :28:06.# When the Thames... Froze # So, tell everyone that there's

:28:06. > :28:12.hope in your heart # Tell everyone or it will tear you

:28:12. > :28:18.apart # At the end of Christmas Day, when

:28:18. > :28:28.there's nothing left to say # The years go by so fast, let's

:28:28. > :28:28.

:28:28. > :28:35.hope the next beats the last # So tell everyone that there's

:28:35. > :28:40.hope in your heart # Tell everyone or it will tear you

:28:40. > :28:46.apart # At the end of Christmas Day, when