0:00:02 > 0:00:04- Everything has an impact on your life.- Whatever your age.
0:00:04 > 0:00:06From the type of house we live in...
0:00:06 > 0:00:08Oh, this looks nice.
0:00:08 > 0:00:11Yes, it's been completely renovated throughout.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13..To how much money we have to spend.
0:00:13 > 0:00:16Your wage ends up being like a normal working wage, which is good.
0:00:16 > 0:00:18What we put in our bodies...
0:00:18 > 0:00:22I don't think I've ever been fat, but I have put weight on.
0:00:22 > 0:00:25..To the secrets of our genetic make-up.
0:00:25 > 0:00:27You're going to live to be 140.
0:00:27 > 0:00:29That'll do, I'll take everything I can get.
0:00:29 > 0:00:35So finding out about all those things and more could help you mature brilliantly.
0:00:35 > 0:00:39Or slow down the ageing process just a little.
0:00:39 > 0:00:42We've tracked down the very best tips and advice
0:00:42 > 0:00:44for holding back the years.
0:00:44 > 0:00:46And now, with the help of our team,
0:00:46 > 0:00:48we're going to pass them on to you.
0:00:48 > 0:00:51To show you how to have the time of your life.
0:00:51 > 0:00:52Whenever that may be.
0:00:56 > 0:01:00Hello and welcome to the show that really wants to put time on your side.
0:01:00 > 0:01:02Whatever age you are. Here's what's on today's show.
0:01:04 > 0:01:08More of us are choosing equity release as a way of injecting cash
0:01:08 > 0:01:12into our retirement than ever before, but is it right for you?
0:01:12 > 0:01:14Bill is on the case.
0:01:14 > 0:01:18When it comes to equity release not all experiences are the same
0:01:18 > 0:01:19or even equal.
0:01:19 > 0:01:25Our resident GP Dr Rangan Chatterjee reveals how you can save a friend's life,
0:01:25 > 0:01:27wherever you may be.
0:01:27 > 0:01:29You get to go home at the end of this.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33Your actions may well result in the person lying on the ground also
0:01:33 > 0:01:34getting to go home.
0:01:35 > 0:01:39Do you find it harder to keep the weight off as you get older?
0:01:39 > 0:01:41Well, it might not totally be your fault.
0:01:41 > 0:01:46I went to Birmingham to find out the latest research on middle-age spread.
0:01:46 > 0:01:50And you start putting it on and you think, "Where is this tyre coming from?"
0:01:50 > 0:01:53And the tyre gets bigger and bigger.
0:01:53 > 0:01:57And we go behind the scenes of the country's first intergenerational care home
0:01:57 > 0:02:01to see how the old and the young are looking after each other.
0:02:01 > 0:02:03They brighten up the whole room.
0:02:03 > 0:02:06Just to watch their characters, the way they change,
0:02:06 > 0:02:07the way they are comfortable with you.
0:02:07 > 0:02:10It's like being in childhood.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16Last year more people signed up to an equity release scheme than ever
0:02:16 > 0:02:20before. It's a trend that's only set to increase in 2018.
0:02:20 > 0:02:24And the reason is that it's seen by more and more people as a way of
0:02:24 > 0:02:28injecting money into their own retirement while freeing up cash
0:02:28 > 0:02:29for, say, children or grandchildren.
0:02:29 > 0:02:31But is it right for you?
0:02:31 > 0:02:35Well, Bill has been meeting two women whose experience is far from equal.
0:02:37 > 0:02:41Being able to afford a comfortable retirement is usually pretty high up
0:02:41 > 0:02:45on the list of priorities, no matter what age we are.
0:02:45 > 0:02:48Unfortunately, according to official statistics,
0:02:48 > 0:02:52Britain's workers can look forward to the worst pension of any major
0:02:52 > 0:02:56developed country. However, there is one thing in our favour.
0:02:56 > 0:02:59Around 65% of us own a property.
0:03:03 > 0:03:06Which is why equity release has become the latest trend for those
0:03:06 > 0:03:09who want to inject some cash into their lives.
0:03:09 > 0:03:10But how does it work?
0:03:14 > 0:03:17If you've paid off your mortgage, or nearly paid it off,
0:03:17 > 0:03:21you can borrow money based on the equity in your home.
0:03:21 > 0:03:24In other words, the amount of money that your house is worth.
0:03:24 > 0:03:26You get a lump sum in the here and now,
0:03:26 > 0:03:31and the money you've borrowed is paid back on the sale of the property,
0:03:31 > 0:03:36which will only happen if you go into full-time care or you're not around any more.
0:03:36 > 0:03:39The thing you need to remember though is that the company
0:03:39 > 0:03:43lending you the money will charge interest on what you've borrowed,
0:03:43 > 0:03:46all of which is repaid on the sale of your home.
0:03:46 > 0:03:48Your family gets what is left.
0:03:48 > 0:03:50Well, that's the theory.
0:03:50 > 0:03:53But how does it play out in real life?
0:03:55 > 0:03:58We've met up with two people, Helen and Barbara,
0:03:58 > 0:04:02for whom the experience of equity release was very different.
0:04:02 > 0:04:04So let's start with a positive experience, shall we?
0:04:06 > 0:04:11I moved down from London 31 years ago and 12 years ago my husband
0:04:11 > 0:04:14and I got divorced and we couldn't sell the property,
0:04:14 > 0:04:19so we decided to have it made into two maisonettes, which we have,
0:04:19 > 0:04:22and he lives upstairs and I live downstairs, so very happy with it.
0:04:22 > 0:04:24It's worked out very well.
0:04:25 > 0:04:29And it was about to work out even better because with her newly found
0:04:29 > 0:04:32independence and an asset that was all her own,
0:04:32 > 0:04:36Helen felt that her flat wasn't a golden egg which should be sat on
0:04:36 > 0:04:38indefinitely. Rather,
0:04:38 > 0:04:39she viewed it as an asset
0:04:39 > 0:04:43which could be used to help the younger generation.
0:04:43 > 0:04:45Well, my son
0:04:45 > 0:04:49got married and they are renting and I think it's wasted money,
0:04:49 > 0:04:54so I got in touch with a company to come and talk to us both of the
0:04:54 > 0:04:56benefits of equity release.
0:04:57 > 0:05:01The idea was to release equity from the flat in order to for her son
0:05:01 > 0:05:03to get on the property ladder.
0:05:03 > 0:05:08The criteria for Helen to qualify for what is known as a lifetime mortgage
0:05:08 > 0:05:12included her age, her health, and the value of her house.
0:05:12 > 0:05:16But this is no ordinary mortgage, as Helen explains.
0:05:16 > 0:05:17You don't pay anything at all.
0:05:17 > 0:05:19It just rolls over.
0:05:19 > 0:05:23You get a yearly account of how much it is.
0:05:23 > 0:05:24They tell you the final amount,
0:05:24 > 0:05:26which, when you look at it, can be quite worrying,
0:05:26 > 0:05:28but you have to realise you are not paying this -
0:05:28 > 0:05:31this is all dealt with at the end.
0:05:31 > 0:05:34Helen released 39% of the value of her home,
0:05:34 > 0:05:38giving her son £60,000 to get on the property ladder,
0:05:38 > 0:05:41and £20,000 for herself.
0:05:41 > 0:05:45I'm so glad I could help my son. Peace of mind for me, too.
0:05:45 > 0:05:48I love my holidays, so I know that I can carry on having holidays.
0:05:48 > 0:05:50I haven't had a mortgage for a long time.
0:05:50 > 0:05:52I'm not paying anything now that I wasn't before.
0:05:52 > 0:05:56I just, everything is the same except that I've got a bit of money and I've helped my son.
0:05:56 > 0:05:59So it's all good news, right? Well, hold on,
0:05:59 > 0:06:05because when it comes to equity release, not all experiences are the same or even equal.
0:06:05 > 0:06:09Barbara Gale from Sherston in Wiltshire has worried since signing
0:06:09 > 0:06:12her contract that she might have made the wrong decision.
0:06:12 > 0:06:17It's important to say I did go into it with my eyes wide open.
0:06:17 > 0:06:19At the time it seemed like easy money.
0:06:19 > 0:06:25But now I'm six years down the road I realise that easy money it may be,
0:06:25 > 0:06:26but you pay quite a price.
0:06:30 > 0:06:31When she was 62,
0:06:31 > 0:06:36Barbara released £32,000 for home improvements and to help her son,
0:06:36 > 0:06:42and today, with compound interest, that loan is worth £49,000.
0:06:45 > 0:06:51How much I'll actually end up owing on my equity release depends on how
0:06:51 > 0:06:54old I am when I die,
0:06:54 > 0:06:59but if I were to live until my 90s I would owe all of the house.
0:06:59 > 0:07:00It would all be gone.
0:07:00 > 0:07:03In fact it would be about half a million pounds,
0:07:03 > 0:07:06which is far more than the house is actually worth.
0:07:07 > 0:07:09Like many in her situation,
0:07:09 > 0:07:13Barbara spent the greater part of her working life paying the mortgage
0:07:13 > 0:07:15in order to own her home outright.
0:07:15 > 0:07:20Now she's faced with the prospect of leaving a large debt behind her.
0:07:22 > 0:07:26I just can't get my head around that I fought for many,
0:07:26 > 0:07:30many years to pay a mortgage on this little property of mine,
0:07:30 > 0:07:34and it does seem to me that all that effort into finding a job,
0:07:34 > 0:07:37keeping the house, paying the mortgage,
0:07:37 > 0:07:42has all kind of gone south, because I took out the equity release on
0:07:42 > 0:07:45my home and I could end up paying all that money back
0:07:45 > 0:07:50to the equity release company and leaving nothing for my family.
0:07:51 > 0:07:53For Barbara, short of winning the lottery
0:07:53 > 0:07:55to pay off this lifetime mortgage,
0:07:55 > 0:07:59there is very little she can do to change her current situation,
0:07:59 > 0:08:03which leads to very, very dark thoughts.
0:08:03 > 0:08:04I do feel pretty awful.
0:08:04 > 0:08:10It makes me actually feel, well, I hope I die sooner rather than later,
0:08:10 > 0:08:13which is a bit of a sad way to be going along,
0:08:13 > 0:08:18but if I die when in my mid-80s at least there will be
0:08:18 > 0:08:21probably about half the house left that I can pass on,
0:08:21 > 0:08:24which is the only thing I have to pass on.
0:08:34 > 0:08:38So two stories of equity release and two very different outcomes.
0:08:38 > 0:08:40Which do you take notice of?
0:08:40 > 0:08:42I'm going to need a referee.
0:08:43 > 0:08:47Financial expert Jasmine Birtles, founder of the Money Magpie website,
0:08:47 > 0:08:51has spent a long time looking at the pros and cons of equity release.
0:08:53 > 0:08:55Jasmine, what are the pitfalls of equity release?
0:08:55 > 0:08:59You think you're taking out a certain amount of money and then,
0:08:59 > 0:09:01because of the compounding interest,
0:09:01 > 0:09:04over the years it mushrooms into a huge amount.
0:09:04 > 0:09:06And since you're not paying anything back,
0:09:06 > 0:09:08that debt is getting bigger all the time.
0:09:08 > 0:09:12Yes, exactly. Although over just a few years you might not notice very
0:09:12 > 0:09:17much of a difference. Once you get to at least five, ten years,
0:09:17 > 0:09:20then you really do see a difference, year on year.
0:09:20 > 0:09:22It's growing very fast.
0:09:24 > 0:09:28And that can be made worse by the fact that interest rates
0:09:28 > 0:09:32in equity release can be higher than with normal loans or mortgages,
0:09:32 > 0:09:35which means that if you take out equity release too early
0:09:35 > 0:09:38you could end up with a massive debt on your hands,
0:09:38 > 0:09:39with no means of paying it off
0:09:39 > 0:09:42except any savings you might have tucked away.
0:09:42 > 0:09:45So who would equity release work for then, do you think?
0:09:45 > 0:09:52People who are probably older, and when I say older, I would say 70 plus.
0:09:52 > 0:09:54Ideally they don't have children,
0:09:54 > 0:09:57so their children are not expecting some sort of an inheritance.
0:09:57 > 0:10:02If they don't have extra money then equity release is a really good way
0:10:02 > 0:10:05of using the money from your home but still living in it.
0:10:05 > 0:10:09And what sort of people need to be wary of getting equity release?
0:10:09 > 0:10:13Younger people, and when I say younger, 55, to 60, for example,
0:10:13 > 0:10:18because you could be lasting for 20, 30, 40 years at least there.
0:10:18 > 0:10:22So it's really not a helpful thing to take money out of your home
0:10:22 > 0:10:24and have it increasing.
0:10:30 > 0:10:33And there is one other downside to equity release that Jasmine wants to
0:10:33 > 0:10:36highlight. Once you take it out,
0:10:36 > 0:10:39it could stop you from moving house ever again,
0:10:39 > 0:10:43or indeed prohibit others from living in the house once you've gone.
0:10:45 > 0:10:50One of the problems I think of equity release is that certain people have
0:10:50 > 0:10:54found that they are basically trapped in their own home and later on,
0:10:54 > 0:10:58if they thought of actually moving to a smaller, easier, cheaper place,
0:10:58 > 0:11:04they can't, because the amount that their equity release debt has grown
0:11:04 > 0:11:07by has meant that they have very little money left, if any at all.
0:11:07 > 0:11:12So what's your advice then to anybody thinking of taking on equity release?
0:11:12 > 0:11:13Go to somebody who's independent,
0:11:13 > 0:11:15who will look at your whole life,
0:11:15 > 0:11:19at your family and all of the things that are affecting your life,
0:11:19 > 0:11:22and then tell you whether it is a good idea or not,
0:11:22 > 0:11:25and, if so, what sort of plan you should take out.
0:11:26 > 0:11:30So I guess the main bit of advice we can offer is get advice,
0:11:30 > 0:11:34because once you take out equity release there's no turning back.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39For information and a list of companies and prices,
0:11:39 > 0:11:41you can go to the Equity Release Council.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45They provide quality and standards guidelines for product providers to
0:11:45 > 0:11:47protect the consumer.
0:11:47 > 0:11:51Also it's important to discuss this with your nearest and dearest,
0:11:51 > 0:11:54because ultimately it does affect them as well.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57But we'll leave the last word to those who have been there.
0:11:58 > 0:12:02If you really need some money or feel like you need to release some money,
0:12:02 > 0:12:06or you need to help children out, it's well worth looking into.
0:12:06 > 0:12:10If you're going to do it, leave it until you're a bit older.
0:12:10 > 0:12:13I did it aged 62.
0:12:13 > 0:12:17I wish I could have left it maybe until I was 72.
0:12:17 > 0:12:21We've asked GP Rangan Chatterjee to be our doctor on your doorstep.
0:12:21 > 0:12:27His job throughout the series is to inform and inspire us to better health and longer life.
0:12:27 > 0:12:31So today, he's looking at how to restart a broken heart.
0:12:31 > 0:12:34Today, I'm in Cheltenham to meet Chris Hickey and his wife, Sue.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38Like more than 30,000 Brits,
0:12:38 > 0:12:42Chris suffered what's called an out of hospital cardiac arrest last year,
0:12:42 > 0:12:47but what makes his story truly extraordinary is for just how long his heart had stopped.
0:12:47 > 0:12:50So how long did your heart stop beating for?
0:12:50 > 0:12:5268 minutes in the end.
0:12:52 > 0:12:54- Over an hour.- That's a long time.
0:12:54 > 0:13:00It's a long time. It's really hard to understand how I can be here.
0:13:00 > 0:13:02I still can't believe that, actually -
0:13:02 > 0:13:0468 minutes is such an incredibly long period of time.
0:13:05 > 0:13:09And yet it was what Sue did in the initial five minutes that ultimately
0:13:09 > 0:13:12saved Chris's life.
0:13:12 > 0:13:14Sue, what's your recollection of that day?
0:13:14 > 0:13:15I was downstairs,
0:13:15 > 0:13:18it was our last day of work before we were due to go on holiday and I'd
0:13:18 > 0:13:23got up early. It was a lovely summer's day and I just heard this kind of coughing sound.
0:13:23 > 0:13:25I suddenly realised it was Chris,
0:13:25 > 0:13:28so I charged up the stairs into our bedroom.
0:13:28 > 0:13:30It wasn't a regular coughing sound?
0:13:30 > 0:13:35No. I knew he was dying, and I witnessed my father's death
0:13:35 > 0:13:39and he was making that kind of death-rattly sound.
0:13:44 > 0:13:48I literally stood there and had a moment of real sheer panic.
0:13:48 > 0:13:50"I can't do this, I'm not expert."
0:13:50 > 0:13:53"I'm not trained."
0:13:53 > 0:13:55"I don't know what to do."
0:13:56 > 0:14:01Incredibly, earlier that morning Sue had read a medical article that
0:14:01 > 0:14:04advised people not to panic or seek help outside the house,
0:14:04 > 0:14:07but instead to call 999 immediately,
0:14:07 > 0:14:10and when she called she got clear,
0:14:10 > 0:14:13precise and ultimately life-saving instructions.
0:14:14 > 0:14:17Opened the front door, so first responders could get in,
0:14:17 > 0:14:22get Chris onto the floor, a hard surface basically, and start CPR.
0:14:22 > 0:14:24I said, "I don't know, I don't know how to do it,
0:14:24 > 0:14:26"I've never been on a course."
0:14:26 > 0:14:29"I'll tell you, I'll tell you what to do."
0:14:29 > 0:14:32But she was about to go on a very fast learning curve.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35CPR stands for cardiopulmonary resuscitation,
0:14:35 > 0:14:37and here's how it works.
0:14:37 > 0:14:39Basically the heart is a pump,
0:14:39 > 0:14:42but if the pump is not working on its own then CPR means you work it
0:14:42 > 0:14:46manually using your hands on the chest.
0:14:46 > 0:14:50This keeps the blood circulating through the heart and around the body,
0:14:50 > 0:14:54ensuring that oxygen continues to feed the brain and vital organs,
0:14:54 > 0:14:58and crucially it's the first five minutes that count most
0:14:58 > 0:15:00when it comes to getting that blood flowing
0:15:00 > 0:15:04until the professionals can turn up to take over.
0:15:04 > 0:15:05The fireman had come in.
0:15:05 > 0:15:07- The fireman came. - Then the paramedics.
0:15:07 > 0:15:10- Then the paramedics. - Then an air ambulance arrived.
0:15:10 > 0:15:11- Yes.- And a doctor came.
0:15:11 > 0:15:15A doctor and a nurse came with them.
0:15:15 > 0:15:18And then did you feel that they were there, they are going to take over?
0:15:18 > 0:15:21- Yeah.- Paramedics will sort this out now.- Yeah, yeah.
0:15:22 > 0:15:25The doctor attempted to start Chris's heart
0:15:25 > 0:15:29by sending electric shocks to it via a defibrillator,
0:15:29 > 0:15:32but Chris wasn't responding and he doctor told Sue it was time to take
0:15:32 > 0:15:35that terrible decision we all dread.
0:15:36 > 0:15:41I had a picture on the fridge which I showed him and I just said,
0:15:41 > 0:15:46just keep going a bit longer, this is, you know,
0:15:46 > 0:15:48a much-loved man.
0:15:48 > 0:15:50SHE SOBS
0:15:51 > 0:15:55They went back upstairs and tried for another ten or 12 minutes,
0:15:55 > 0:15:58and it's in that time Chris came back.
0:15:58 > 0:16:00You know?
0:16:00 > 0:16:02What a blessing.
0:16:03 > 0:16:05And it's wonderful, wonderful.
0:16:13 > 0:16:17Surviving 68 minutes without a well- functioning heart is pretty much
0:16:17 > 0:16:21unheard of, yet Chris managed it, and there's two main reasons for that.
0:16:21 > 0:16:25Firstly, Sue called 999, but secondly, Chris got CPR.
0:16:25 > 0:16:29Now CPR was given for five minutes by Sue and then followed up by the
0:16:29 > 0:16:34paramedics, and what it does is, it keeps the oxygen and the blood
0:16:34 > 0:16:36pumping around your body to your vital organs
0:16:36 > 0:16:39and in particular your brain, and there's absolutely no reason
0:16:39 > 0:16:42that you can't learn to do the same as well.
0:16:42 > 0:16:45A recent poll showed that two-thirds of us would not know what to do
0:16:45 > 0:16:47if faced with a cardiac arrest.
0:16:48 > 0:16:51But that could be about to change -
0:16:51 > 0:16:53certainly if training programmes like this
0:16:53 > 0:16:54have anything to do with it.
0:16:57 > 0:17:01This is the Eurospa in Maghaberry, Northern Ireland,
0:17:01 > 0:17:05where they are pumping their staff full of life-saving CPR lessons.
0:17:05 > 0:17:08Today, Alana is being shown how easy it is
0:17:08 > 0:17:11by trainer and paramedic Mark Bailey,
0:17:11 > 0:17:14and he's brought a little friend.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17So we're looking for the V coming up the ribcage,
0:17:17 > 0:17:18coming up to that point.
0:17:18 > 0:17:21We'll put two fingers above that.
0:17:21 > 0:17:25That then is where the heel of our first hand is going to go and then
0:17:25 > 0:17:27the second hand will go on top of the first hand.
0:17:27 > 0:17:31Our elbows are locked and our shoulders will be directly above our hands.
0:17:31 > 0:17:36So we need to compress 120 times a minute, that's twice every second.
0:17:36 > 0:17:37So it's...
0:17:39 > 0:17:43Any situation at all where the patient has actually had a cardiac arrest,
0:17:43 > 0:17:45CPR will be vital.
0:17:45 > 0:17:51For people who have choked and have not been able to get the foreign body dislodged,
0:17:51 > 0:17:52anaphylaxis,
0:17:52 > 0:17:57where somebody has effectively suffocated or choked because the airways are blocked,
0:17:57 > 0:18:00that patient will also go into cardiac arrest,
0:18:00 > 0:18:03so any of those kind of situations basically where the patient has
0:18:03 > 0:18:07stopped breathing for themselves, CPR is going to be indicated.
0:18:09 > 0:18:13So successful has the course been that the company's managers have
0:18:13 > 0:18:17even installed their own network of on-site defibrillators,
0:18:17 > 0:18:22which makes survival rates rise from less than 10% up to 70%,
0:18:22 > 0:18:23if a defibrillator is used
0:18:23 > 0:18:27within the first three to five minutes of collapse.
0:18:27 > 0:18:32And now it's time for Alana to get a crash course in how to use that.
0:18:32 > 0:18:37Apply pads to bare skin exactly as shown in the pictures.
0:18:37 > 0:18:42Quite often people will be scared and at the end of the course everybody is a lot happier.
0:18:42 > 0:18:45We find that the underpinning knowledge about why you're doing
0:18:45 > 0:18:48what you're doing definitely produces better results.
0:18:48 > 0:18:50Everyone clear. Press flashing button.
0:18:53 > 0:18:55Shock delivered.
0:18:55 > 0:18:58ALANA: You know, people in the community should all learn how to take part in this
0:18:58 > 0:19:05as it was a lot easier than what I had expected and it will also help to save a life.
0:19:05 > 0:19:08And Mark has first-hand knowledge.
0:19:08 > 0:19:10Lives have been saved.
0:19:10 > 0:19:15A lady had collapsed in a pharmacy in east Belfast and the staff knew
0:19:15 > 0:19:18that the Henderson store just down the road had a defib.
0:19:18 > 0:19:21They sent somebody off to get it while compressions were being done
0:19:21 > 0:19:24and we got the report the next day that she was sitting up,
0:19:24 > 0:19:27slightly sore chest, but well, in her hospital bed.
0:19:30 > 0:19:33There's no point in running about like a headless chicken.
0:19:33 > 0:19:36It's easier said than done, of course, for people who aren't used to this.
0:19:36 > 0:19:38But really, taking two or three seconds
0:19:38 > 0:19:41just to focus your mind on what it is you are doing,
0:19:41 > 0:19:42you get to go home at the end of this.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46Your actions may well result in the person lying on the ground
0:19:46 > 0:19:47also getting to go home.
0:19:48 > 0:19:53And CPR doesn't just ensure that heart attack victims get to go home.
0:19:53 > 0:19:55It also helps them make a full recovery.
0:19:56 > 0:20:00When Chris Hickey's heart stopped beating for 68 minutes,
0:20:00 > 0:20:04doctors were certain the lack of oxygen would leave him with brain damage.
0:20:05 > 0:20:10But the efforts of his wife Sue and the paramedics ensured that even that did not happen.
0:20:11 > 0:20:16And it has given him a second chance to make sure that it never happens again.
0:20:16 > 0:20:20Do you come here quite a bit? Are you in good physical shape?
0:20:20 > 0:20:21Yeah, I am now.
0:20:21 > 0:20:24When I came out of hospital,
0:20:24 > 0:20:27the day after I came out was the first day we came up here.
0:20:27 > 0:20:29You came up here the day after?
0:20:29 > 0:20:31- Wow!- The day after, because the doctor said, "Look,
0:20:31 > 0:20:34"you've really got to take exercise, you've got to get out,
0:20:34 > 0:20:36- "you've got to..."- Start your life again.
0:20:36 > 0:20:37Start your life again.
0:20:37 > 0:20:40Do you take physical activity quite seriously now?
0:20:40 > 0:20:43- Yeah.- Each day we try and go a bit further.
0:20:43 > 0:20:47You see, I had a sense that you are getting back to who you were.
0:20:48 > 0:20:50Chris owes a huge debt to the professionals
0:20:50 > 0:20:54who worked to save his life, but none of it would have been possible
0:20:54 > 0:20:57without the role his wonderful wife Sue played
0:20:57 > 0:21:00in those first five key minutes, when she called 999,
0:21:00 > 0:21:03delivered CPR and didn't panic.
0:21:03 > 0:21:06That first critical few minutes was what it took, right?
0:21:06 > 0:21:10Someone to have the courage to not be put off and not think,
0:21:10 > 0:21:13"I've not been trained." You've got to do it. Give it a go.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16- That's the key word, isn't it? - Courage.- Courage. Yeah,
0:21:16 > 0:21:21because in that moment that was just really stepping up to do it.
0:21:21 > 0:21:26In those first couple of minutes you just want the blood moving,
0:21:26 > 0:21:28just something.
0:21:28 > 0:21:32And so that gave us great hope when Chris was admitted that it was...
0:21:32 > 0:21:34Something was done.
0:21:34 > 0:21:36That maybe we've done enough, you know?
0:21:37 > 0:21:40You did do enough, didn't you?
0:21:40 > 0:21:47Look at him now! Loving life, you know. Yeah.
0:21:47 > 0:21:49There's no doubt that Chris is one lucky man.
0:21:49 > 0:21:53But the simple fact remains that if more of us knew CPR,
0:21:53 > 0:21:56and if defibrillators were more easily available,
0:21:56 > 0:21:59then luck would play a smaller role in the future.
0:21:59 > 0:22:03Studies regularly show that exercising your mind with puzzles and games
0:22:03 > 0:22:05every day can help keep your brain healthy,
0:22:05 > 0:22:07and even up to ten years younger.
0:22:07 > 0:22:12Yes. Which is why, just for fun, we've come up with our very own.
0:22:12 > 0:22:15All you have to do is watch the following clips
0:22:15 > 0:22:17and work when it all happened.
0:22:17 > 0:22:21The question is simple. What was the year that was?
0:22:22 > 0:22:24So here's how the game works.
0:22:24 > 0:22:31We are going to give you a few key events that will happened in the space of a year. But which year?
0:22:31 > 0:22:34And here's why you should play along, by the way.
0:22:34 > 0:22:40Psychologists have said that nostalgia can promote a sense of wellbeing and vitality in us all.
0:22:40 > 0:22:44So this really could help you hold back the years.
0:22:44 > 0:22:49# I can feel it coming in the air tonight... #
0:22:50 > 0:22:53Just get on your bike and go, go on.
0:22:53 > 0:22:57You'll be all right, just stay nice and cool.
0:22:57 > 0:23:00# Oh, Lord
0:23:01 > 0:23:06# And I can feel it coming in the air tonight... #
0:23:07 > 0:23:10# Bending the rules of the game will let you find
0:23:10 > 0:23:13# The one you're looking for
0:23:13 > 0:23:15# And then you can show that you think you know
0:23:15 > 0:23:18# You're making your mind up. #
0:23:18 > 0:23:23# Well, the hurt doesn't show, but the pain still grows
0:23:23 > 0:23:26# It's no stranger to you and me
0:23:29 > 0:23:37# I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh, Lord... #
0:23:37 > 0:23:40What do you think you'll remember most of all about today?
0:23:40 > 0:23:42The pushing and shoving!
0:23:50 > 0:23:53And we'll give you until the end of the show to work on the answer.
0:23:53 > 0:23:56Moving on to a subject I'm sure we can all empathise with -
0:23:56 > 0:23:59most of us, anyway. Why, as we get older,
0:23:59 > 0:24:02does it become more difficult to keep weight off?
0:24:02 > 0:24:04And what can we do about it?
0:24:04 > 0:24:06I went to Birmingham to meet the middle-aged spreaders.
0:24:10 > 0:24:13- Look at your long legs. - I know, look at the shoes!
0:24:13 > 0:24:15I was normally a very good dancer.
0:24:15 > 0:24:19Any nightclub there was dancing, I was always there.
0:24:19 > 0:24:22Yes, I can't believe it when I look at it!
0:24:22 > 0:24:24That was me when I was 20.
0:24:24 > 0:24:26Your legs go on forever.
0:24:32 > 0:24:36I've come to Birmingham to meet a slimming group currently engaged
0:24:36 > 0:24:38in the battle of the bulge.
0:24:38 > 0:24:42I don't think I've ever been FAT fat, but I have put weight on.
0:24:42 > 0:24:44You start putting it on and you think,
0:24:44 > 0:24:46where is this tyre coming from?
0:24:46 > 0:24:48The tyre gets bigger and bigger.
0:24:48 > 0:24:53I didn't know what to do to stop it.
0:24:53 > 0:25:00In the UK, 66% of men and 57% of women are overweight or obese.
0:25:00 > 0:25:03As we get older, the pounds just seem to pile on,
0:25:03 > 0:25:09which is exactly the experience of middle-aged spreaders in Solihull,
0:25:09 > 0:25:11although they all have various theories
0:25:11 > 0:25:13as to why this might be the case.
0:25:13 > 0:25:18Do you reckon your eating habits have changed as you've got older?
0:25:18 > 0:25:20Yes, You don't do as much and you eat more.
0:25:20 > 0:25:23The odd biscuit, the odd slice of cake.
0:25:23 > 0:25:26The weight is building up without you realising it.
0:25:26 > 0:25:28And yes, obviously when I am stressed out,
0:25:28 > 0:25:31you do like to turn to the odd chocolate bar.
0:25:31 > 0:25:32Stewart, what about you?
0:25:32 > 0:25:34When I was at work, a lot of the times it was,
0:25:34 > 0:25:38I used to call it lunch on the run, because I was always at work.
0:25:38 > 0:25:43But now I'm retired, I'm at home and I've got more time to eat food,
0:25:43 > 0:25:46so I have a tendency to eat more food.
0:25:46 > 0:25:50But you're supposed to eat healthily, aren't you?
0:25:50 > 0:25:52That's what it's about.
0:25:53 > 0:25:56Well, it's interesting to hear that most of the group seem to blame
0:25:56 > 0:25:58themselves for their spare tyre.
0:25:59 > 0:26:01But it might not be the case.
0:26:01 > 0:26:05Researchers have found that the average man and woman
0:26:05 > 0:26:08add 1-2 lbs around their middle every year
0:26:08 > 0:26:12from the ages of 35 to 55, despite eating less.
0:26:14 > 0:26:17I've come to Aston University to meet Dr James Brown,
0:26:17 > 0:26:22one of the country's top experts in the effects of ageing on our weight.
0:26:22 > 0:26:25Middle-aged spread. When does it actually start?
0:26:25 > 0:26:28It really starts around the age of 30, believe it or not.
0:26:28 > 0:26:32At that age, we start to see the metabolic rate slowing slightly,
0:26:32 > 0:26:35so our metabolism's just starting to slow down,
0:26:35 > 0:26:37hormone levels are starting to drop,
0:26:37 > 0:26:40and for those of us that aren't physically active,
0:26:40 > 0:26:44we start to see a loss of muscle mass and an increase in fat mass.
0:26:46 > 0:26:51And recently, scientists have got closer to understanding what might be the cause.
0:26:51 > 0:26:55They've discovered that ageing increases levels of an enzyme
0:26:55 > 0:26:59called DNA PK.
0:26:59 > 0:27:03This enzyme repairs our bodies but it also slows down the metabolism,
0:27:03 > 0:27:06making it more difficult to burn fat.
0:27:08 > 0:27:10And it's also a different type of fat
0:27:10 > 0:27:12than what we see in younger people,
0:27:12 > 0:27:15a deeper, less superficial kind.
0:27:15 > 0:27:17It's called visceral fat.
0:27:18 > 0:27:21This is the fat that wraps itself around your organs,
0:27:21 > 0:27:24around your heart, your kidneys and intestines,
0:27:24 > 0:27:28and this visceral fat is more closely associated with disease,
0:27:28 > 0:27:30so if you've got lots of visceral fat,
0:27:30 > 0:27:33you're at a higher risk of diseases like type two diabetes,
0:27:33 > 0:27:35cancer and Alzheimer's.
0:27:35 > 0:27:40So, how do you check just how much of your weight is visceral fat?
0:27:40 > 0:27:43Well, there's a test you can do at home, and for our purposes,
0:27:43 > 0:27:46we've enlisted the help of Stuart.
0:27:46 > 0:27:48If you measure your waist circumference
0:27:48 > 0:27:51and then also measure yourself around the hips,
0:27:51 > 0:27:53of their widest part, and around the buttocks,
0:27:53 > 0:27:57and if you divide your waist measurement by your hip measurement
0:27:57 > 0:28:00you get a number and we can tell from that number
0:28:00 > 0:28:03whether you're storing too much fat around the middle
0:28:03 > 0:28:04or just the right amount.
0:28:04 > 0:28:08- And what should that number be...? - For women, it's 0.8.
0:28:08 > 0:28:10For men, it's 0.9.
0:28:10 > 0:28:12- OK.- OK, so shall we have a go at doing it?
0:28:12 > 0:28:14- Yes.- Brilliant.
0:28:14 > 0:28:17And we have a measurement of 44 inches.
0:28:17 > 0:28:18And then we'll come down...
0:28:20 > 0:28:21..to the widest part...
0:28:22 > 0:28:27..of your hips and buttocks, which is actually 45 inches.
0:28:27 > 0:28:31So, you divide your waist size by your hip measurement and the result
0:28:31 > 0:28:35you're looking for is 0.8 or lower for a woman
0:28:35 > 0:28:38and 0.9 or lower for a man.
0:28:38 > 0:28:40So what's Stuart's result?
0:28:40 > 0:28:44You would be just over the 0.9 cut-off for men,
0:28:44 > 0:28:47which means you're at a slightly increased risk
0:28:47 > 0:28:49of things like type two diabetes,
0:28:49 > 0:28:51because you tend to store your fat around your middle.
0:28:51 > 0:28:54Now, we know that bad fat is visceral fat,
0:28:54 > 0:28:58but what does it do to us that other fats don't?
0:28:58 > 0:29:00If you think about what fat does,
0:29:00 > 0:29:03so it doesn't just store energy and it doesn't just keep us warm,
0:29:03 > 0:29:05it's actually a secretory gland,
0:29:05 > 0:29:09so your fat cells right now are releasing as many as 600 different
0:29:09 > 0:29:11hormones and other molecules.
0:29:11 > 0:29:14But interestingly, visceral fat tends to secrete
0:29:14 > 0:29:16very damaging hormones and molecules
0:29:16 > 0:29:18and they can damage tissue such as the brain,
0:29:18 > 0:29:21such as the pancreas, such as your blood vessels,
0:29:21 > 0:29:24and that's why visceral fat increases the risk
0:29:24 > 0:29:27of these nasty diseases associated with older age.
0:29:29 > 0:29:33And what's also clear is that getting rid of visceral fat takes
0:29:33 > 0:29:36a lot more effort than youthful chubbiness.
0:29:36 > 0:29:39But it doesn't mean it's out of our control.
0:29:39 > 0:29:43Is it true to say that middle-aged spread really is beyond our control?
0:29:43 > 0:29:46Not true. We have a lot of control over it, actually.
0:29:46 > 0:29:50There are biological things that happen in the body, your genetics,
0:29:50 > 0:29:52within cells, your metabolism,
0:29:52 > 0:29:55which will influence your risk of middle-aged spread,
0:29:55 > 0:29:59but if you control your diet, eat the right foods in the right amount,
0:29:59 > 0:30:01if you control your physical activity,
0:30:01 > 0:30:03get lots of regular exercise,
0:30:03 > 0:30:06you are going to reduce your risk of middle-aged spread.
0:30:06 > 0:30:07It is not inevitable.
0:30:09 > 0:30:10Well, that's me told.
0:30:10 > 0:30:14So, lots of exercise and eat well.
0:30:14 > 0:30:16And for some advice about a healthy diet,
0:30:16 > 0:30:19I'm talking to physical education teacher Mark Holborn,
0:30:19 > 0:30:22- who's been shopping.- As you can see in front of us,
0:30:22 > 0:30:26we've got a big variety of foods that are readily available to us in
0:30:26 > 0:30:28supermarkets. We've got the oat breakfast.
0:30:28 > 0:30:30Can't go wrong with oats for breakfast.
0:30:30 > 0:30:31- I love a bit of porridge. - Brown pasta.
0:30:31 > 0:30:35Now, this is great to provide us with the energy that we need throughout the day.
0:30:35 > 0:30:36We also have nuts, lots of oils
0:30:36 > 0:30:38and there's healthy fats in there.
0:30:38 > 0:30:41- And protein.- Lots of protein.
0:30:41 > 0:30:45Protein is the key here, because we lose muscle mass after the age of 40,
0:30:45 > 0:30:51so ideally around 25% of our calorie intake should be in the form of
0:30:51 > 0:30:56- protein.- Chicken, turkey, really healthy, low in fat, lovely taste.
0:30:56 > 0:30:58- You can cook them with anything.
0:30:58 > 0:31:01You can even throw them in the omelette with your eggs, you know?
0:31:01 > 0:31:02Protein overload.
0:31:02 > 0:31:06Next, I'm bringing our middle-aged spreaders to a gym
0:31:06 > 0:31:09where Dr Brown and Mark have a few tips for them.
0:31:11 > 0:31:14So, there are three pieces of advice we want you to focus on
0:31:14 > 0:31:16and the first piece of advice is about nutrition,
0:31:16 > 0:31:21so that means try to avoid processed foods that have too much energy in
0:31:21 > 0:31:24them and to focus on eating more natural foods,
0:31:24 > 0:31:28the right amount of calories, so you're getting a healthy nutrition.
0:31:28 > 0:31:31The second thing we've got to talk about is the value of exercise.
0:31:31 > 0:31:34We know that exercise is really important for a number of reasons.
0:31:34 > 0:31:37If we resistance-train, it means that we can build our muscles up.
0:31:37 > 0:31:39That can raise our metabolism.
0:31:39 > 0:31:43At the same time, because as you get older, the muscles degrade,
0:31:43 > 0:31:46we want to keep the muscles still working and keep them functioning.
0:31:46 > 0:31:50But most importantly, exercise is proven to reduce your stress levels.
0:31:50 > 0:31:53And that's our final piece of advice, actually, is to
0:31:53 > 0:31:56make sure you're getting enough rest and a good night's sleep.
0:31:56 > 0:32:00We know that increased stress will lead to the increased levels of
0:32:00 > 0:32:03stress hormones and they can contribute to middle-aged spread,
0:32:03 > 0:32:06so make sure you are getting periods of rest during the day,
0:32:06 > 0:32:11a good night's sleep and recovery from any exercise that you do.
0:32:11 > 0:32:14Which rather neatly leads us to our final task
0:32:14 > 0:32:16with the middle-aged spreaders -
0:32:16 > 0:32:17a quick workout in the gym.
0:32:17 > 0:32:20Four, three, two, one.
0:32:20 > 0:32:22Go. I love that.
0:32:23 > 0:32:26Remember, you can do this at home with a broomstick
0:32:26 > 0:32:27and just on a chair at home.
0:32:27 > 0:32:29Go, Jackie.
0:32:29 > 0:32:30Up into the air, into your chest.
0:32:30 > 0:32:32This is going to work the backs of your arms
0:32:32 > 0:32:34as well as the tops of your shoulders.
0:32:34 > 0:32:37As long as they keep it up, then could this go some way to
0:32:37 > 0:32:39getting rid of that visceral fat that some of them might have?
0:32:39 > 0:32:42It can. We've given them all the tools they need to make
0:32:42 > 0:32:44the right lifestyle decisions
0:32:44 > 0:32:47so that they can limit their amount of visceral fat.
0:32:47 > 0:32:49Good work. Well done, folks.
0:32:49 > 0:32:54The thought of exercise and diet doesn't appeal to anyone, really,
0:32:54 > 0:32:56but they really do work and that,
0:32:56 > 0:33:00combined with sleep and a little less stress in their lives,
0:33:00 > 0:33:04really could help them banish the fat wherever it is in their bodies.
0:33:06 > 0:33:07That was hard work!
0:33:08 > 0:33:13Finally today, a truly lovely story about a unique place that could help
0:33:13 > 0:33:15revolutionise how we look after
0:33:15 > 0:33:18the oldest and the youngest in our society.
0:33:18 > 0:33:21It's Britain's first intergenerational care home,
0:33:21 > 0:33:23where caring means sharing.
0:33:24 > 0:33:28It's 8'o'clock on a Tuesday morning in south London.
0:33:28 > 0:33:30Over there is Nightingale House,
0:33:30 > 0:33:34home to 200 residents with an average age of about 90.
0:33:35 > 0:33:38And 100 yards in that direction is
0:33:38 > 0:33:40the Apples and Honey Nightingale Nursery,
0:33:40 > 0:33:44with 30 - on any given day - two to five-year-olds.
0:33:45 > 0:33:47Normally, the twain would never meet,
0:33:47 > 0:33:51but both have come up with an ingenious way of working
0:33:51 > 0:33:52that benefits everyone.
0:33:54 > 0:33:57I've come to visit the first place in the UK to offer full-time care
0:33:57 > 0:34:02for preschool children within a residential home for older people.
0:34:04 > 0:34:07Now, millions of us enjoy spending time with grandchildren,
0:34:07 > 0:34:09but for the residents here,
0:34:09 > 0:34:12it's a much bigger commitment with much greater benefits.
0:34:13 > 0:34:16It's known as intergenerational care
0:34:16 > 0:34:19and something we might see a lot more of in the future.
0:34:21 > 0:34:25At 9am, the nursery staff bring the two groups together.
0:34:25 > 0:34:27And from the off, it's playtime.
0:34:35 > 0:34:37So, how did this project come about?
0:34:37 > 0:34:39Away from all the hubbub, I spoke to Ali Summers,
0:34:39 > 0:34:41co-founder of the nursery.
0:34:42 > 0:34:45So, Ali, how did all this come about here, then,
0:34:45 > 0:34:47with the nursery and the care home?
0:34:47 > 0:34:50We had a nursery in Wimbledon and we brought the children here several
0:34:50 > 0:34:53times a term and we thought how wonderful it would be
0:34:53 > 0:34:56if we didn't have to leave, if we could just stay here on site,
0:34:56 > 0:34:57and here we are.
0:34:57 > 0:34:59What are the benefits for the residents?
0:34:59 > 0:35:01They are remarkable.
0:35:01 > 0:35:03The joy that comes out of them.
0:35:03 > 0:35:05Last night, I sat on one of their floors
0:35:05 > 0:35:08with a lovely resident named John and I asked him how his week went,
0:35:08 > 0:35:11how his day went, what he enjoyed most,
0:35:11 > 0:35:12and he said it's visiting the children.
0:35:12 > 0:35:14And he said, it's not just me.
0:35:14 > 0:35:15And he pointed to another resident.
0:35:15 > 0:35:17He said, he doesn't talk to anybody,
0:35:17 > 0:35:20and yet when he comes down and he is with the children, he talks,
0:35:20 > 0:35:24he interacts, and there was a woman who lives locally with dementia
0:35:24 > 0:35:28whose partner and carer bring her to our baby and toddler group
0:35:28 > 0:35:30because she just comes alive in the sessions.
0:35:30 > 0:35:33And has there been a lot of interest from other people in what you're doing here?
0:35:33 > 0:35:35There has been tremendous interest.
0:35:35 > 0:35:39We've been contacted by about 20 different groups locally,
0:35:39 > 0:35:41around the country, around the world,
0:35:41 > 0:35:43asking how we got started, can we help them?
0:35:43 > 0:35:45We've had volunteer offers of help
0:35:45 > 0:35:49from so many walks of life. It's been truly inspirational.
0:35:50 > 0:35:52Time, I think, to meet some of the residents.
0:35:52 > 0:35:54Fay Garcia, who's 90,
0:35:54 > 0:35:57and Margie Bloom, 91,
0:35:57 > 0:35:59are getting ready for the mid-morning snack.
0:35:59 > 0:36:03They've found themselves thriving since the programme started.
0:36:03 > 0:36:06Hello. Well, this is fun, isn't it?
0:36:06 > 0:36:08- It's great fun, yes.- Great fun.
0:36:08 > 0:36:10I should think things change quite a lot when
0:36:10 > 0:36:13the children come into the home?
0:36:13 > 0:36:15Oh, absolutely. They brighten up our room.
0:36:15 > 0:36:18Just to watch their characters, the way they change,
0:36:18 > 0:36:20the way they come towards you.
0:36:20 > 0:36:22It's like being a child again.
0:36:22 > 0:36:25So do you think this is a good idea for other care homes to take on?
0:36:25 > 0:36:29Yes, I think it's better than all the medicine, all the pills,
0:36:29 > 0:36:33and certainly better than putting on the TV and reading the paper
0:36:33 > 0:36:35with all the miserable news.
0:36:35 > 0:36:37This is wonderful.
0:36:37 > 0:36:39And Fay, you didn't have children of your own.
0:36:39 > 0:36:42- I never had children.- So this is a whole new experience?
0:36:42 > 0:36:43Absolutely. It's like being reborn.
0:36:43 > 0:36:46And Marjorie, do you have grandchildren?
0:36:46 > 0:36:48Oh, yes, I have four.
0:36:48 > 0:36:50So how do this lot compare with them?
0:36:52 > 0:36:54This lot are very good!
0:36:56 > 0:36:58But it's not all one-way traffic.
0:36:58 > 0:37:01Research also shows that the contact with older people also has
0:37:01 > 0:37:05a positive impact on the learning and development of children.
0:37:06 > 0:37:10Stirring, stirring, stirring, stirring.
0:37:10 > 0:37:12OK, time to test the catering?
0:37:12 > 0:37:14Oh, that is good.
0:37:14 > 0:37:17- Do you like being at nursery, Nariah?- Yes!
0:37:17 > 0:37:19What do you think is the best thing?
0:37:19 > 0:37:20Singing.
0:37:20 > 0:37:21Singing.
0:37:22 > 0:37:25- Balloon.- Oh, you've got balloons.
0:37:25 > 0:37:28What do you think of your friends? Do you like your friends here?
0:37:28 > 0:37:29Your older friends.
0:37:29 > 0:37:31They are nice, aren't they?
0:37:32 > 0:37:34- Yum yum.- Well done.
0:37:34 > 0:37:36Well, this is a lot of fun but here in the UK,
0:37:36 > 0:37:39we lag well behind many countries where, for some time,
0:37:39 > 0:37:43the very young and the very old have been getting together
0:37:43 > 0:37:45and both getting a lot out of it.
0:37:45 > 0:37:47Cheers.
0:37:48 > 0:37:53Intergenerational care first began in Japan in the 1970s.
0:37:53 > 0:37:55It's now found in countries all over the world.
0:37:56 > 0:37:59One of the pioneering centres is in Seattle,
0:37:59 > 0:38:02where it's been established for nearly 30 years.
0:38:04 > 0:38:07Here in the UK, we are just starting to get the idea,
0:38:07 > 0:38:10but it could be about to take off in a big way.
0:38:11 > 0:38:16Steven Burke from United For All Ages is one of the people trying
0:38:16 > 0:38:19to take intergenerational care into the mainstream.
0:38:19 > 0:38:23Why do we lag so far behind other countries when it comes to doing this sort of thing?
0:38:23 > 0:38:27The UK is one of the most age- segregated countries in the world.
0:38:27 > 0:38:30Most of our activities only cater for one age group.
0:38:30 > 0:38:33Like a care home or a nursery. And very rarely do they mix.
0:38:33 > 0:38:35And there are all sorts of impacts as a result of that.
0:38:35 > 0:38:38Loneliness and isolation for older people,
0:38:38 > 0:38:41but also children don't benefit from the learning and experience that
0:38:41 > 0:38:43older people can provide.
0:38:43 > 0:38:45So, how do you plan to change this?
0:38:45 > 0:38:48We're hoping that within the next five years,
0:38:48 > 0:38:52there will be some 500 care home-nurseries on the same sites.
0:38:52 > 0:38:54500? That sounds quite ambitious.
0:38:54 > 0:39:00We have a lot of interest already from several hundred care schemes and housing schemes
0:39:00 > 0:39:02where they have the space.
0:39:02 > 0:39:05The question is, is the space suitable for a nursery?
0:39:05 > 0:39:07Does it have the right access for nursery?
0:39:07 > 0:39:08Is it in the right location for a nursery
0:39:08 > 0:39:10where families are living close by?
0:39:10 > 0:39:13And do you think projects like this one here could make people
0:39:13 > 0:39:17feel differently about going into care homes?
0:39:17 > 0:39:21Care homes can quite often be isolated institutions
0:39:21 > 0:39:23and by opening them up
0:39:23 > 0:39:26to not just children but also the families of the children,
0:39:26 > 0:39:29relatives of the older people, the staff,
0:39:29 > 0:39:31it can really help bring care homes alive.
0:39:31 > 0:39:35The key thing here is that this is an everyday activity.
0:39:35 > 0:39:37It's happening every day of the week
0:39:37 > 0:39:39and older people are getting involved
0:39:39 > 0:39:43in helping those children learn and develop and grow
0:39:43 > 0:39:46and experience the joys of life.
0:39:46 > 0:39:51Food all eaten, it's time for the afternoon story, and today, well,
0:39:51 > 0:39:53they have a guest reader - me!
0:39:55 > 0:40:01Hello, my name's Bill and I'm a bad beekeeper - a really bad beekeeper.
0:40:01 > 0:40:05I've done bad things with bees, terrible things,
0:40:05 > 0:40:07things you wouldn't understand
0:40:07 > 0:40:09unless you were a beekeeper yourself.
0:40:09 > 0:40:12I still shudder at the thought of one or two of them.
0:40:12 > 0:40:15And with that, it's nap time.
0:40:15 > 0:40:17Blimey, I didn't think I was that boring!
0:40:17 > 0:40:18Why, I hear you ask?
0:40:18 > 0:40:21Why?
0:40:28 > 0:40:31It's the end of a long but very fulfilling day and soon,
0:40:31 > 0:40:33it'll begin all over again.
0:40:33 > 0:40:35Who knows? In years to come,
0:40:35 > 0:40:38this might be a much more everyday occurrence.
0:40:38 > 0:40:42For the moment, it's a chance for me to find out what mum and dad think.
0:40:43 > 0:40:46It's good for them to actually understand all different types
0:40:46 > 0:40:49of people out there and spend time and be gentle with older people
0:40:49 > 0:40:52as well as being around their friends.
0:40:52 > 0:40:54So, what does your daughter say about coming here
0:40:54 > 0:40:56- and being with the residents? - Absolutely loves it.
0:40:56 > 0:40:59So, we drive in together and every time,
0:40:59 > 0:41:02she'll be telling me stories about what she's planning to do and when
0:41:02 > 0:41:05we're driving back home, she's telling me, oh,
0:41:05 > 0:41:08I was with residents and this is what we were doing.
0:41:08 > 0:41:10What do you think they get out of it, the children?
0:41:10 > 0:41:13Patrick, he loves the residents.
0:41:13 > 0:41:16He comes home and tells me about his grannies,
0:41:16 > 0:41:20so he's extended his family by 20 plus.
0:41:25 > 0:41:29Back inside, it's time for me to say my goodbyes to Margie and Fay,
0:41:29 > 0:41:31but first, why not get some top tips
0:41:31 > 0:41:34on how to overcome an age gap of more than 80 years?
0:41:36 > 0:41:38So, ladies, we've seen you having a lovely time
0:41:38 > 0:41:40with the children earlier.
0:41:40 > 0:41:43What's your advice? What's the best way to get on with little children,
0:41:43 > 0:41:45- do you think?- Personally,
0:41:45 > 0:41:51I think it's like treating them like you would any human being,
0:41:51 > 0:41:53whatever age.
0:41:53 > 0:41:56It's amazing how much and what they do pick out.
0:41:56 > 0:41:57Don't talk down to them.
0:41:57 > 0:41:59Exactly, yes.
0:41:59 > 0:42:03If there's one single thing that you both take away from this experience
0:42:03 > 0:42:05that you've had, what would you say it was?
0:42:05 > 0:42:11I think it's the warmth and the acceptance of the children
0:42:11 > 0:42:12of us oldies.
0:42:12 > 0:42:15- Does it make you feel younger? - In a way, yes.
0:42:15 > 0:42:16I want to sing with them.
0:42:16 > 0:42:18- Which we do, don't we? - Which we do.
0:42:18 > 0:42:21Have you got a favourite song?
0:42:21 > 0:42:24- I'm not going to sing it now. - Oh, why not?
0:42:24 > 0:42:26The Wheels On The Bus?
0:42:26 > 0:42:28Could be, yes.
0:42:30 > 0:42:33THEY SING: # The bell on the bus
0:42:33 > 0:42:36# Goes dinga-linga-ling all day long. #
0:42:36 > 0:42:40This could all be seen as a bit of a game changer for care homes,
0:42:40 > 0:42:43which, up to now, are all too often seen as the last stop
0:42:43 > 0:42:45on the journey of life.
0:42:45 > 0:42:49What's happening here is giving the children a valuable experience
0:42:49 > 0:42:53and giving the older people a whole new purpose.
0:42:53 > 0:42:57Time now to give you the answer to our What Was The Year That Was archive quiz.
0:42:57 > 0:42:59Fiona, the year was...
0:42:59 > 0:43:02The year was, oh, 1981,
0:43:02 > 0:43:06the year that Bucks Fizz won the Eurovision Song contest.
0:43:06 > 0:43:10Good. Let's hope you can make your mind up to join us again tomorrow.
0:43:10 > 0:43:12Bye-bye.
0:43:16 > 0:43:19# Every time that I come near her
0:43:19 > 0:43:21# I just lose my nerve
0:43:21 > 0:43:25# As I've done from the start
0:43:27 > 0:43:30# Every little thing she does is magic
0:43:30 > 0:43:32# Everything she do just turns me on
0:43:32 > 0:43:36# Even though my life before was tragic
0:43:36 > 0:43:41# Now I know my love for her goes on... #