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0:00:04 > 0:00:07When it comes to our health, it seems everyone has an opinion,

0:00:07 > 0:00:09and everyone has an agenda.

0:00:09 > 0:00:14But what's the health advice you can really trust?

0:00:15 > 0:00:18We're here to weigh up the evidence and use our expertise

0:00:18 > 0:00:19to guide you...

0:00:20 > 0:00:26Through the contradictions and the confusions.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28We do the research no-one else has done.

0:00:28 > 0:00:32And put your health at the heart of what we do and ensure you get

0:00:32 > 0:00:35the information you need.

0:00:42 > 0:00:45We're here when you want to know the latest findings and not

0:00:45 > 0:00:53just the latest fads.

0:00:53 > 0:00:53I'm Michael Mosley.

0:00:53 > 0:00:57In this series I'm joined by a team of doctors.

0:00:57 > 0:01:00Together we will cut through the hype, the head lines

0:01:00 > 0:01:01and the health claims.

0:01:01 > 0:01:09This is: Trust Me, I'm A Doctor.

0:01:09 > 0:01:13This time we're in Newcastle, carrying out the most ambitious

0:01:13 > 0:01:18experiment we have ever attempted: To find out if turmeric can ever

0:01:18 > 0:01:20protect us against cancer.

0:01:20 > 0:01:23Also, are fast-acting pain killers worth the extra money?

0:01:23 > 0:01:25With a dangerous strain of meningitis on the rise,

0:01:25 > 0:01:32how do you protect yourself?

0:01:32 > 0:01:34That's when I went anto cardiac arrest.

0:01:34 > 0:01:40And when is mindfulness medicine, or mumbo jumbo?

0:01:40 > 0:01:45And should we all have a stab at testing our own cholesterol.

0:01:45 > 0:01:49But first, welcome to Newcastle, we're here to do a truly

0:01:49 > 0:01:51ground breaking experiment with the university to see

0:01:51 > 0:01:55if turmeric, a spice commonly used in Indian cooking can help

0:01:55 > 0:02:05protect us against cancer.

0:02:07 > 0:02:10It's one of the nation's favourite dishes but not one that is generally

0:02:10 > 0:02:11thought of as healthy.

0:02:11 > 0:02:13But could one of curry's key ingredients contain the secret

0:02:13 > 0:02:15to long life and good health?

0:02:15 > 0:02:19This is turmeric, in its raw state it looks a little like ginger root

0:02:19 > 0:02:25but when you grind it down you get that distinctive yellowy, orange

0:02:25 > 0:02:27powder, that is so opulent in South Asian cuisine,

0:02:27 > 0:02:28but it is possible

0:02:28 > 0:02:31that turmeric is doing something more than just adding flavour

0:02:31 > 0:02:32to your food.

0:02:32 > 0:02:34There are claims that turmeric can fend off anything from allergies

0:02:34 > 0:02:38to depression, even cancer.

0:02:38 > 0:02:41But for once there is a hint of evidence behind the claims.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44In many countries that cook with turmeric, rates of cancer

0:02:44 > 0:02:46are surprisingly low.

0:02:46 > 0:02:48So what's going on?

0:02:48 > 0:02:51There are at least 200 different compounds in turmeric

0:02:51 > 0:02:53but there is one that scientists are interested in.

0:02:53 > 0:02:56It gives the spice its colour.

0:02:56 > 0:03:01It is called curcumin.

0:03:01 > 0:03:05Thousands of scientific papers have been published looking at turmeric

0:03:05 > 0:03:08and curcumin in the laboratory, some with promising results.

0:03:08 > 0:03:13But far fewer experiments have been done in the real world,

0:03:13 > 0:03:17at Dr Anthony Watson of the Newcastle University explains.

0:03:17 > 0:03:20There is test tube evidence and there is animal evidence

0:03:20 > 0:03:22that shows that turmeric could have an effect on cell

0:03:22 > 0:03:25signalling and changes in cells

0:03:25 > 0:03:28but the data that shows effects on humans is quite limited.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30So the study is not there to point the way?

0:03:30 > 0:03:40Exactly.

0:03:40 > 0:03:43This is exactly the sort of situation where we on Trust Me,

0:03:43 > 0:03:44like to make a difference.

0:03:44 > 0:03:46We are going to do a real world experiment.

0:03:46 > 0:03:49To test turmeric on our health in a way that has

0:03:49 > 0:03:50never been tried before.

0:03:50 > 0:03:52We have tracked down leading researchers from across the country,

0:03:52 > 0:03:54whose work, we think, could help find the answer.

0:03:54 > 0:03:56And we have recruited nearly 100 volunteers.

0:03:56 > 0:03:59First, in a true Trust Me style, we have to divide

0:03:59 > 0:04:02them into three groups.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04One group will be consuming a teaspoon of turmeric a day,

0:04:04 > 0:04:08ideally mixed in with their food.

0:04:08 > 0:04:11Another lot are going to get a supplement of turmeric, the third

0:04:11 > 0:04:15group will have the placebo.

0:04:15 > 0:04:17They are going to take their turmeric powder,

0:04:17 > 0:04:22supplements or placebo for six weeks.

0:04:22 > 0:04:32We are taking blood samples now and we'll do it again at the end.

0:04:33 > 0:04:35We are going analyse them using ground breaking techniques

0:04:35 > 0:04:37to test two of the big claims made for turmeric,

0:04:37 > 0:04:40that it can be good for your immune system and good for cancer.

0:04:40 > 0:04:43One of the tests we are taking is an ?oxidative

0:04:43 > 0:04:44stress test?.

0:04:44 > 0:04:47It is brand new, developed here at Newcastle University.

0:04:47 > 0:04:53It gives a measure of how good your blood cells

0:04:53 > 0:04:56are at resisting inflammation, therefore a measure also of how

0:04:56 > 0:05:02robust your immune system is.

0:05:02 > 0:05:04But how to test weather turmeric could really help

0:05:04 > 0:05:05protect us from cancer?

0:05:05 > 0:05:07We've found a group from University College London,

0:05:07 > 0:05:08whose research, we think might help.

0:05:08 > 0:05:11Here at UCL, they're doing a test for us that involves

0:05:11 > 0:05:16new science and technology, that should reveal for the first

0:05:16 > 0:05:19time subtle changes in DNA, associated with cancer risk.

0:05:19 > 0:05:21This test is based on a new understanding of how cancer starts

0:05:21 > 0:05:26and could have major implications for all of us.

0:05:26 > 0:05:29We are finding out about more of this later in the programme.

0:05:29 > 0:05:30By bringing out this latest scientific knowledge

0:05:30 > 0:05:33to a real world study, we hope to find out once

0:05:33 > 0:05:36and for all, whether turmeric really does have genuine health benefits.

0:05:36 > 0:05:38Now down the years we have done lots of projects with different

0:05:38 > 0:05:41universities and got some really exciting results but this is by far

0:05:41 > 0:05:44the most ambitious thing we have ever attempted so finger

0:05:44 > 0:05:45crossed we get a result!

0:05:45 > 0:05:55Now over to Dr Chris van Tulleken.

0:06:00 > 0:06:06Now over to Dr Chris van Tulleken.

0:06:06 > 0:06:10Joint pain is something that loads of us worry about as we get older.

0:06:10 > 0:06:13Lots of people are turning to supplements.

0:06:13 > 0:06:17One of the most popular supplements for joints is gloucosamine.

0:06:21 > 0:06:24The idea is that as glucosamine is found naturally in our joints,

0:06:24 > 0:06:27taking it as a supplement, may help replace or repair our own joint

0:06:27 > 0:06:29tissue as it suffers wear and tear.

0:06:29 > 0:06:31Here in the UK we spend nearly ?55 million a year

0:06:31 > 0:06:32on glucosamine pills.

0:06:32 > 0:06:35They are sold over the counter as a food supplement,

0:06:35 > 0:06:38not a medicine, which means that they are less regulated, so,

0:06:38 > 0:06:44are we wasting our money?

0:06:44 > 0:06:50Firstly, how much glucosamine do these pills contain?

0:06:50 > 0:06:53Well to find out we have taken nine brands, easily available in the UK

0:06:53 > 0:06:57and brought them to the lab for testing.

0:06:57 > 0:06:59We are going to analyse the chemistry to find out

0:06:59 > 0:07:02if the products really contain what they say they do.

0:07:02 > 0:07:07So what does our test show?

0:07:07 > 0:07:13The doctor at the pharmaceutical institute has the results.

0:07:13 > 0:07:17We saw that two out of the nine have lesser amounts than expected.

0:07:17 > 0:07:20So as much as 30% less.

0:07:20 > 0:07:22Really, 30% less?

0:07:22 > 0:07:26Is that worrying?

0:07:26 > 0:07:30It is worrying in the sense that this pills are not regulated.

0:07:30 > 0:07:37They could have any amount of glucosamine in them.

0:07:37 > 0:07:39In fact they could even have none at all.

0:07:39 > 0:07:42Because of the lack of regulation, we can have no idea how

0:07:42 > 0:07:47much our glucosamine pills contain.

0:07:47 > 0:07:50We found that pills that could cost you almost ?300 a year,

0:07:50 > 0:07:52contain similar amounts of glucosamine as the ones that cost

0:07:52 > 0:07:54?9 a year.

0:07:54 > 0:08:00Christina has other concerns too.

0:08:00 > 0:08:03I have a slightly creeky knee, what advice would you give to me

0:08:03 > 0:08:05if I said I want to buy glucosamine?

0:08:05 > 0:08:08I would recommend you not to buy it, there is no clinical

0:08:08 > 0:08:11evidence it works.

0:08:11 > 0:08:15It it's an interesting point.

0:08:15 > 0:08:17So your glucosamine supplements may not contain as much glucosamine

0:08:17 > 0:08:22as you thought.

0:08:22 > 0:08:32But even so, it leaves the question of whether or not they can do

0:08:33 > 0:08:36the thing that people buy them for, to make sore joints better.

0:08:36 > 0:08:38Countless trials have been done on glucosamine to see

0:08:38 > 0:08:39if it helps our joints.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42It has been come paired with pain killers and other remedies,

0:08:42 > 0:08:45even with placebos, people taking a dummy pill.

0:08:45 > 0:08:55But for all the research, there is no definitive answer.

0:09:01 > 0:09:03It is an analysis, so pulls the results from thousands

0:09:03 > 0:09:06of patients from other studies and the authors were still unable

0:09:06 > 0:09:08to show any conclusive benefit from taking glucosamine

0:09:08 > 0:09:11but they do go on to say, that patients who take glucosamine

0:09:11 > 0:09:14often are convinced of its benefits and it doesn't do them harm.

0:09:14 > 0:09:15So what is going on here?

0:09:15 > 0:09:18For me, the fact that many trials show that placebo pills are just

0:09:18 > 0:09:21as effective as glucosamine might mean in the case of joint pain

0:09:21 > 0:09:23taking glucosamine pill, only makes people's joints feel

0:09:23 > 0:09:30better as they think it does, it is just a placebo.

0:09:34 > 0:09:38So I want to do an experiment.

0:09:38 > 0:09:41To help me get this right I have called on a world expert

0:09:41 > 0:09:47in osteo-arthritis, Professor Phil conhad been

0:09:47 > 0:09:49in osteo-arthritis, Professor Phil Conaghan

0:09:49 > 0:09:50from the University of Leeds.

0:09:50 > 0:09:52Together we have done a study that we think reveals

0:09:52 > 0:09:53the truth about glucosamine.

0:09:53 > 0:09:56But Phil thinks it will need a lot of people.

0:09:56 > 0:09:59We need about a minimum of 40 patients.

0:09:59 > 0:10:03Per arm, so say in 80 patients in total for the study.

0:10:03 > 0:10:0580 people with painful knee joints?

0:10:05 > 0:10:07No problem.

0:10:07 > 0:10:12We divided them into two groups.

0:10:12 > 0:10:15The first group will be shown how to do something that is shown

0:10:15 > 0:10:18to relieve pain, daily exercises to strengthen muscles and tendons

0:10:18 > 0:10:20around the knee.

0:10:20 > 0:10:24The other group will be getting a pill to pop every day.

0:10:24 > 0:10:27You'll be getting the supplement, that is one pill a day to be

0:10:27 > 0:10:28taken in the morning.

0:10:28 > 0:10:31We want to see how well the supplement measures up

0:10:31 > 0:10:38against the gold standard, exercise.

0:10:38 > 0:10:41We have measured the range of movement each has in the knee

0:10:41 > 0:10:45joint and they have filled in a form describing their pain levels.

0:10:45 > 0:10:48In eight weeks' time, the volunteers come back and fill

0:10:48 > 0:10:49out the pain scores.

0:10:49 > 0:10:52And then we will find out if there has been an improvement.

0:10:52 > 0:10:54Two months after the trial started, the volunteers gather

0:10:54 > 0:10:56in Leeds to find out.

0:10:56 > 0:10:58Have the exercises or the supplement pills made any difference

0:10:58 > 0:11:04to their joints?

0:11:04 > 0:11:05I was in the exercise group.

0:11:05 > 0:11:07How did it go?

0:11:07 > 0:11:09Absolutely fabulous.

0:11:09 > 0:11:11I felt much, much, better.

0:11:11 > 0:11:18How have the last few weeks gone on the #1u7mentes?

0:11:18 > 0:11:20How have the last few weeks gone on the supplement?

0:11:20 > 0:11:21Fantastic.

0:11:21 > 0:11:23I have almost forgot been the pain.

0:11:23 > 0:11:25So you feel like we have cured you?

0:11:25 > 0:11:26I feel like a new person.

0:11:26 > 0:11:27You do?

0:11:27 > 0:11:28I do, yeah.

0:11:28 > 0:11:30Thank you all very much for coming.

0:11:30 > 0:11:32Are you all looking forward to the results?

0:11:32 > 0:11:37ALL SPEAK AT ONCE: Yes.

0:11:37 > 0:11:39Phil, start by telling us what happened

0:11:39 > 0:11:40to the exercise groups.

0:11:40 > 0:11:41OK.

0:11:41 > 0:11:43The exercise group, 80% of the people in your group improved

0:11:43 > 0:11:45their symptoms by over a third.

0:11:45 > 0:11:47So a large number of you really did very well.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50Over a third we know from previous studies is the amount we think

0:11:50 > 0:11:51is clinically important.

0:11:51 > 0:11:54It is the amount you recognise you notice difference

0:11:54 > 0:11:55in your symptoms.

0:11:55 > 0:12:01So that is 80% of the group.

0:12:01 > 0:12:04Then the supplement group, how did they do?

0:12:04 > 0:12:07So, 55% of the people in this group also

0:12:07 > 0:12:12improved a third or more.

0:12:12 > 0:12:1455%/80%.

0:12:14 > 0:12:17That's the difference between the groups.

0:12:17 > 0:12:21So over half of you did well in this group with the supplement.

0:12:21 > 0:12:23So 55% of the supplement group reported a clinically significant

0:12:23 > 0:12:29drop in pain.

0:12:29 > 0:12:32It's an impressive improvement but what was it they were taking?

0:12:32 > 0:12:38We have to come clean with you guys, what you were taking

0:12:38 > 0:12:47was a totally inert sugar pill, it was a placebo.

0:12:47 > 0:12:51We didn't do it to deceive you, we did it for a good

0:12:51 > 0:12:54and important reasons, the result that 55% of you had

0:12:54 > 0:12:56a clinically significant improvement in symptoms is surprising.

0:12:56 > 0:13:00So the placebo effect has indeed been really strong.

0:13:00 > 0:13:07Over half the group felt that got better taking a sugar pill.

0:13:07 > 0:13:11This explains the complicated picture around glucosamine.

0:13:11 > 0:13:14Many people swear by it but as we have proved,

0:13:14 > 0:13:17even sugar pills can make your joints feel better.

0:13:17 > 0:13:21Huge studies on thousands of people have shown glucosamine to be no more

0:13:21 > 0:13:23effective than our placebo.

0:13:23 > 0:13:30The exercise did trump the pills, and that's really encouraging it

0:13:30 > 0:13:33The exercise did trump the pills, and that's really encouraging, it

0:13:33 > 0:13:36means there is something we can all do to help our joint pain that

0:13:36 > 0:13:38is free and works in most of us.

0:13:38 > 0:13:41A lot of the pain is coming from the tendons and

0:13:41 > 0:13:42the structures around the joint.

0:13:42 > 0:13:44If they are unloaded, you reduce the pain.

0:13:44 > 0:13:47We see it for knees, or hands, and if there is anybody listening

0:13:47 > 0:13:57and they are having trouble getting out of a chair

0:13:58 > 0:13:59and undoing a jar, they

0:13:59 > 0:14:02are at risk of joint pain because their muscles are weak.

0:14:02 > 0:14:04This is the time to look at getting strong.

0:14:04 > 0:14:07They have seen the evidence, now they have to do something

0:14:07 > 0:14:09for their leg muscles and their arm muscles.

0:14:09 > 0:14:11I'm gardening and doing everything I have never done before.

0:14:11 > 0:14:13Really it has made so much difference.

0:14:13 > 0:14:16I had a colleague at work who had a problem, I suggested he should do

0:14:16 > 0:14:19this type of exercise, after two weeks he came back

0:14:19 > 0:14:20and said he was fine.

0:14:20 > 0:14:22So, you have been spreading the word?

0:14:22 > 0:14:26And I feel we have cleared up a lot of the murky evidence around

0:14:26 > 0:14:30the pills.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33If you are 100% convinced that glucosamine works for you,

0:14:33 > 0:14:37then by all mean, keep taking it.

0:14:37 > 0:14:39But for most of us, the best evidence says that

0:14:39 > 0:14:43you can save your money, which is lucky, given the low levels

0:14:43 > 0:14:46of glucosamine we found in some of the pills on the market.

0:14:46 > 0:14:50The exercises are free, effective and virtually no side effects.

0:14:50 > 0:15:01So if it were me, I would ditch the pills and do a few leg raises.

0:15:01 > 0:15:04To see Phil's exercises in detail, go to the Trust Me

0:15:04 > 0:15:07I'm a Doctor website.

0:15:13 > 0:15:16Painkillers are the most popular over-the-counter medicines you can

0:15:16 > 0:15:18buy, but some cost ten times more than others.

0:15:18 > 0:15:19So, are they worth it?

0:15:19 > 0:15:24Over to Doctor Saleyha Ahsan.

0:15:24 > 0:15:27The range of painkillers to buy over-the-counter is huge, and the

0:15:27 > 0:15:29choice can be pretty overwhelming.

0:15:29 > 0:15:34There are painkillers that come as tablets,

0:15:34 > 0:15:44caplets, liquid capsules, painkillers that claim to act

0:15:45 > 0:15:47caplets, liquid capsules, painkillers that claim to act

0:15:47 > 0:15:48fast or target pain.

0:15:48 > 0:15:50Big-name brands and cheaper generic products.

0:15:50 > 0:15:51So which should you choose?

0:15:51 > 0:15:53You might be tempted into thinking that a higher

0:15:53 > 0:15:55price carries with it and increased guarantee of effectiveness.

0:15:55 > 0:15:57But is that actually the case?

0:15:57 > 0:16:00To find out, I'm going to collect a range of ibuprofen painkillers and

0:16:00 > 0:16:04put them to the test.

0:16:04 > 0:16:07About half of them are well known brand names, the

0:16:07 > 0:16:09big companies that often do the initial drug research and charge

0:16:09 > 0:16:13higher prices.

0:16:13 > 0:16:15The other half are the modestly priced generic products

0:16:15 > 0:16:20made by companies who wait for the patents to run out,

0:16:20 > 0:16:22then they simply produced their own version of an

0:16:22 > 0:16:24existing medicine.

0:16:24 > 0:16:25We've taken a range of branded and generic

0:16:25 > 0:16:30products and send them for some laboratory tests.

0:16:30 > 0:16:31Head of the pharmaceutics lab at University

0:16:31 > 0:16:34College London is Simon Gaisford. The first test is, do they contain

0:16:34 > 0:16:36as much ibuprofen as they claim?

0:16:36 > 0:16:43So, Simon, what did you find?

0:16:43 > 0:16:45So we found that each product contained

0:16:45 > 0:16:49ibuprofen, which is the drug designed to reduce pain, and that

0:16:49 > 0:16:52each product contained the amount of ibuprofen claimed on the box.

0:16:52 > 0:16:55Exactly as it should be.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57As licensed medicines in the UK are tightly

0:16:57 > 0:17:01regulated by the Medicines and Health Care Products Regulatory

0:17:01 > 0:17:03Authority.

0:17:03 > 0:17:06The MHRA.

0:17:06 > 0:17:09But even if they contain the same stuff, do the

0:17:09 > 0:17:13cheaper products really worked just as well?

0:17:13 > 0:17:15cheaper products really work just as well?

0:17:15 > 0:17:21Our labs did a second set of tests to find out how quickly the

0:17:21 > 0:17:23drug was released from the tablets.

0:17:23 > 0:17:25A simulation of how quickly the ibuprofen might get into our

0:17:25 > 0:17:26bloodstream.

0:17:26 > 0:17:28Here are the results for the branded product.

0:17:28 > 0:17:29Talk me through this.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32So on this axis is the amount of drug that is

0:17:32 > 0:17:35dissolving from the tablet into solution as a percentage, and this

0:17:35 > 0:17:40axis is time in minutes.

0:17:40 > 0:17:41axis is timed in minutes.

0:17:41 > 0:17:43We can see when we added the tablet to the

0:17:43 > 0:17:46solution most of the product started to release their drug quite quickly.

0:17:46 > 0:17:48I think it's important to note that different

0:17:48 > 0:17:49products release drugs at

0:17:49 > 0:17:50different rates.

0:17:50 > 0:17:53The requirement to sell a product on the market is that

0:17:53 > 0:17:54after a particular time period, a minimum percentage

0:17:54 > 0:17:56of drug has been released.

0:17:56 > 0:17:59In this case, after 40 minutes, they all need to be above

0:17:59 > 0:18:0075%, and they are.

0:18:00 > 0:18:01That is the branded.

0:18:01 > 0:18:04How did the generics do?

0:18:04 > 0:18:06The generics are shown in blue, branded in red.

0:18:06 > 0:18:12We can see there is a degree of variability in the

0:18:12 > 0:18:15release rates at the start but again after 40 minutes all the products,

0:18:15 > 0:18:18more than 75% of the drug has been released.

0:18:18 > 0:18:23Both the generic and branded products released the

0:18:23 > 0:18:27majority of the ibuprofen after 40 minutes.

0:18:27 > 0:18:32And there's no significant difference between the different

0:18:32 > 0:18:33manufacturers products.

0:18:33 > 0:18:35So according to our tests, there is no advantage

0:18:35 > 0:18:37in paying for more expensive tablets.

0:18:37 > 0:18:40The cheaper ones are just as good, and that is, in fact, a

0:18:40 > 0:18:48legal requirement here in the.

0:18:48 > 0:18:49legal requirement here in the UK.

0:18:49 > 0:18:52If I'm a company and I want to develop

0:18:52 > 0:18:54a generic version of a product, I have to

0:18:54 > 0:18:55demonstrate to the MHRA that

0:18:55 > 0:18:57my product is bio-equivalent to the brand leader.

0:18:57 > 0:18:59What that means is, the drug which is released from

0:18:59 > 0:19:01my generic product reaches the bloodstream

0:19:01 > 0:19:02at the same rate as the

0:19:02 > 0:19:03brand leader.

0:19:03 > 0:19:06But companies use lots of marketing tactics to get us to

0:19:06 > 0:19:07part with more cash.

0:19:07 > 0:19:09What about the versions claimed to be fast acting?

0:19:09 > 0:19:12Some of them work by using a slightly different form of

0:19:12 > 0:19:15ibuprofen, so your body can absorb it more quickly.

0:19:15 > 0:19:18Others give it to you in solution in a soft capsule.

0:19:18 > 0:19:22We put some of these products to the test, too.

0:19:22 > 0:19:25Now if we look at the critical points we can see after 20

0:19:25 > 0:19:28minutes all of these products have released more than 75% of their

0:19:28 > 0:19:31drug.

0:19:31 > 0:19:32That's 20 minutes.

0:19:32 > 0:19:33As opposed to 40.

0:19:33 > 0:19:34We were there before.

0:19:34 > 0:19:35The normal release.

0:19:35 > 0:19:43We now there.

0:19:43 > 0:19:44We arenow there.

0:19:44 > 0:19:46Absolutely, so 20 minutes we've got the same

0:19:46 > 0:19:47amount of drug released as

0:19:47 > 0:19:49the standard release tablets released in 40 minutes.

0:19:49 > 0:19:51The claim to be fast acting or express is also

0:19:51 > 0:19:55regulated by law in the UK, so again there is no advantage in paying

0:19:55 > 0:19:56more.

0:19:56 > 0:19:58Cheap express products should work just as quickly as the

0:19:58 > 0:20:01expensive brands.

0:20:01 > 0:20:09The other way companies can tempted to spend more

0:20:09 > 0:20:11The other way companies can tempt you to spend more

0:20:11 > 0:20:14is to sell painkillers for different kinds of pain.

0:20:14 > 0:20:16For instance, Neurofen sell ibuprofen in all kinds of

0:20:16 > 0:20:17packages for all kinds of things.

0:20:17 > 0:20:20This suggests there is something different in each box, and they are

0:20:20 > 0:20:22often more expensive than the supposedly regular tablets.

0:20:22 > 0:20:23The thing is, ibuprofen doesn't target

0:20:23 > 0:20:25just one of these things.

0:20:25 > 0:20:27It works on everything.

0:20:27 > 0:20:29It has an analgesic effect over the entire body.

0:20:29 > 0:20:32It does all of these things all at the same

0:20:32 > 0:20:34time.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37Ibuprofen works because it dampens pain no matter where it is

0:20:37 > 0:20:40in the body, so it'll help headaches at the same time as helping back

0:20:40 > 0:20:43pain.

0:20:43 > 0:20:46That's true of any ibuprofen product regardless of price.

0:20:46 > 0:20:52In 2015 and Australian court found that

0:20:52 > 0:20:54In 2015 an Australian court found that

0:20:54 > 0:20:56Neurofen had misled the public by marketing four products that

0:20:56 > 0:21:00claims to target specific types of pain.

0:21:00 > 0:21:02Back pain, period pain and headaches.

0:21:02 > 0:21:05When, in fact, it was exactly the same medicine in each

0:21:05 > 0:21:08box.

0:21:08 > 0:21:12In the UK you can also buy supposedly paying specific forms of

0:21:12 > 0:21:14Neurofen while some of the different boxes

0:21:14 > 0:21:16contain the same form of

0:21:16 > 0:21:18ibuprofen.

0:21:18 > 0:21:21The advertising standards authority this year cracked down on

0:21:21 > 0:21:25one of their adverts.

0:21:25 > 0:21:26Neurofen aren't the only company selling

0:21:26 > 0:21:30targeted ibuprofen.

0:21:30 > 0:21:32Despite the various ways companies try to tempt

0:21:32 > 0:21:36you to spend more money, in the UK and EU, you are protected by law,

0:21:36 > 0:21:38and can safely buy the cheapest versions on offer.

0:21:38 > 0:21:43None of these products can target specific pain,

0:21:43 > 0:21:47so there's no point paying any more for a box that suggests it does.

0:21:47 > 0:21:51If you're ever in any doubt, always ask

0:21:51 > 0:21:54the pharmacist.

0:21:54 > 0:21:57The only time it might be worth spending a little bit

0:21:57 > 0:21:59more is if you need fast acting pain relief.

0:21:59 > 0:22:01Even then, the cheaper generic packets work just as well as

0:22:01 > 0:22:02the more expensive brands.

0:22:02 > 0:22:07Neurofen told us seven in ten people find

0:22:07 > 0:22:12paying specific products help them decide which best meets their needs.

0:22:12 > 0:22:14Any Neurofen products with the same active

0:22:14 > 0:22:15ingredient, pack size and

0:22:15 > 0:22:17formulation have the same recommended retail price.

0:22:17 > 0:22:20Their full statement is on our website.

0:22:20 > 0:22:30Next, we've invited GP Doctor Zoe Williams

0:22:30 > 0:22:34to investigate whether monitoring our own health at home is

0:22:34 > 0:22:38worthwhile.

0:22:38 > 0:22:42This time, measuring our cholesterol levels.

0:22:42 > 0:22:45Cholesterol testing is one of the things that

0:22:45 > 0:22:48makes up the NHS health check, essentially that means anyone over

0:22:48 > 0:22:51the age of 40 should be checking their cholesterol.

0:22:51 > 0:22:55Cholesterol is the type of fat we all have in our

0:22:55 > 0:22:58blood, and if we have too much of it, it can

0:22:58 > 0:23:04build upon the insides of

0:23:04 > 0:23:05build up on the insides of

0:23:05 > 0:23:07our blood vessels, increasing the risk heart

0:23:07 > 0:23:08disease and stroke.

0:23:08 > 0:23:10So we should know our levels, but should

0:23:10 > 0:23:11we measure them ourselves?

0:23:11 > 0:23:13It's like these are available over-the-counter, so that means you

0:23:13 > 0:23:15can check your cholesterol at home.

0:23:15 > 0:23:18But are these worth spending our money on and what do our results

0:23:18 > 0:23:19mean anyway?

0:23:19 > 0:23:23I've found some volunteers willing to put

0:23:23 > 0:23:25cholesterol tests to the test.

0:23:25 > 0:23:28First, I've invited them to the surgery to take their blood

0:23:28 > 0:23:30and put it through the standard test you get

0:23:30 > 0:23:33from your GP, then we'll see how this compares

0:23:33 > 0:23:35to the results from a

0:23:35 > 0:23:38range of home test kits.

0:23:38 > 0:23:40The test that we do doesn't actually measure

0:23:40 > 0:23:43the amount of cholesterol, it measures the amount of protein that

0:23:43 > 0:23:46carries the cholesterol.

0:23:46 > 0:23:49That is supposed to give an indication if

0:23:49 > 0:23:52you are at increased risk of heart disease or stroke.

0:23:52 > 0:23:54The professional test will measure two different

0:23:54 > 0:23:55proteins.

0:23:55 > 0:23:58LDL carries cholesterol to the cells in the body, and this is

0:23:58 > 0:24:03often called bad cholesterol, as you don't want too much of it.

0:24:03 > 0:24:07HDL carries cholesterol away from

0:24:07 > 0:24:09yourselves to be disposed of in the liver.

0:24:09 > 0:24:12This is often called good cholesterol, so higher levels are

0:24:12 > 0:24:15better.

0:24:15 > 0:24:18Tomorrow we'll be checking the home testing kits to see if they

0:24:18 > 0:24:20give as accurate a reading as these samples.

0:24:20 > 0:24:30So the volunteers have arrived.

0:24:40 > 0:24:41Here we have the kits.

0:24:41 > 0:24:44There are several kinds on the market, they all require

0:24:44 > 0:24:45a pinprick of blood.

0:24:45 > 0:24:47And, as it turns out, it can be difficult to use.

0:24:47 > 0:24:49The cheapest kits use your blood sample

0:24:49 > 0:24:53and a bit of chemistry to give a result in the form of a coloured

0:24:53 > 0:24:53dot.

0:24:53 > 0:24:56And some more expensive devices give a digital reading.

0:24:56 > 0:24:59But are any of them accurate?

0:24:59 > 0:25:02Cholesterol levels don't change dramatically overnight,

0:25:02 > 0:25:06so the results should be about the same as the laboratory test from

0:25:06 > 0:25:09yesterday that I brought with me.

0:25:09 > 0:25:12Three of our kits aren't a good match.

0:25:12 > 0:25:14I wouldn't say that's very accurate.

0:25:14 > 0:25:17A little bit out, that one.

0:25:17 > 0:25:19We'll put that over there.

0:25:19 > 0:25:22One of them was the more expensive digital device we tested.

0:25:22 > 0:25:25So you have the fancy machine and we were

0:25:25 > 0:25:32able to check your total cholesterol, total cholesterol was

0:25:32 > 0:25:42out.

0:25:42 > 0:25:45One of the simple devices seemed to match the professional

0:25:45 > 0:25:46test.

0:25:46 > 0:25:47Very accurate.

0:25:47 > 0:25:49But perhaps it's not quite as clear-cut it

0:25:49 > 0:25:50appeared.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53To me, the blood sample is showing a really light grey colour,

0:25:53 > 0:25:56but the chart I'm comparing it to is various shades of green.

0:25:56 > 0:25:59We are not particularly impressed with the home

0:25:59 > 0:26:02test kits, but even if we did get accurate results, what do they mean?

0:26:02 > 0:26:05So, the measure we ultimately interested in is the cholesterol

0:26:05 > 0:26:07ratio.

0:26:07 > 0:26:10The HDL in comparison to the LDL.

0:26:10 > 0:26:15The advice is that your HDL levels should be above one and your

0:26:15 > 0:26:19LDL levels below three.

0:26:19 > 0:26:22Interpreting cholesterol results has always been

0:26:22 > 0:26:25controversial but the latest advice is bringing down your LDL levels and

0:26:25 > 0:26:28increasing your HDL levels will reduce your risk of heart disease

0:26:28 > 0:26:31and stroke.

0:26:31 > 0:26:34You can do this through changing what you eat, doing more

0:26:34 > 0:26:38exercise and giving up smoking, as well as taking medication such as

0:26:38 > 0:26:40statins.

0:26:40 > 0:26:42Would our volunteers use the home kits to measure their

0:26:42 > 0:26:44cholesterol?

0:26:44 > 0:26:47Bearing that in mind, how useful for you at home is the

0:26:47 > 0:26:50information from the other kits?

0:26:50 > 0:26:53I would prefer to go to a GP to get the test done.

0:26:53 > 0:26:59Because I'm not sure how accurate is this one.

0:26:59 > 0:27:01I doubt the accuracy of that.

0:27:01 > 0:27:09What I'm expecting, because I'm a big foodie,

0:27:09 > 0:27:12so I know I like my food, I suspect that my cholesterol cannot be that

0:27:12 > 0:27:14low.

0:27:14 > 0:27:16As we've seen, the home testing kits are not only difficult to

0:27:16 > 0:27:20operate, it's also difficult to interpret the results, so my advice

0:27:20 > 0:27:24would be if you are over the age of 40 or in any doubt at all, go see

0:27:24 > 0:27:33your doctor and let them test-tube and interpret the results for you.

0:27:33 > 0:27:36your doctor and let them test and interpret the results for you.

0:27:36 > 0:27:38It'll probably save you some money in the meantime.

0:27:38 > 0:27:41Earlier in the programme we started one of the most

0:27:41 > 0:27:43ambitious experiments Trust Me has ever done, putting some of the

0:27:43 > 0:27:48supposed health benefits of turmeric to the test.

0:27:48 > 0:27:53Involves nearly 100 people, over six weeks, with tests

0:27:53 > 0:27:56in four labs right across the UK.

0:27:56 > 0:28:02One of these tests could have major implications for all of us as it

0:28:02 > 0:28:07might provide an early warning system for cancer.

0:28:07 > 0:28:10It's been made possible thanks to people like

0:28:10 > 0:28:14Caroline, who found out in 2007 she was at increased risk of hereditary

0:28:14 > 0:28:18breast and ovarian cancer.

0:28:18 > 0:28:22I was put on a screening programme and the

0:28:22 > 0:28:25results came back from those that I had shadows on both breasts.

0:28:25 > 0:28:29I was absolutely terrified and convinced I

0:28:29 > 0:28:33was going to die and that was it, I was going to leave my three children

0:28:33 > 0:28:34without a mother.

0:28:34 > 0:28:39In 2009 I had a risk reducing bilateral mastectomy

0:28:39 > 0:28:43with reconstruction.

0:28:43 > 0:28:50From there I had my fourth child in 2013 and

0:28:50 > 0:28:53after that I had more risk reducing surgery and had my ovaries and

0:28:53 > 0:28:55fallopian tubes removed to lower my risk of ovarian cancer.

0:28:55 > 0:28:57Caroline donated tissue samples to a research

0:28:57 > 0:29:02group at University College London and their work has recently led to a

0:29:02 > 0:29:04breakthrough in how we might identify an individual's risk of

0:29:04 > 0:29:07cancer.

0:29:07 > 0:29:09It came about thanks to a relatively new understanding of how

0:29:09 > 0:29:19changes in our genes can trigger cancer.

0:29:20 > 0:29:21But not the changes we once thought.

0:29:21 > 0:29:22Over to surgeon Gabriel Weston.

0:29:22 > 0:29:25Over the past few decades, our understanding of our genes has

0:29:25 > 0:29:26altered dramatically.

0:29:26 > 0:29:35And one of the most important thing is we're

0:29:35 > 0:29:38learning is that it's not just the DNA we inherit that matters, but

0:29:38 > 0:29:41also how those genes are used in our bodies on a daily basis.

0:29:41 > 0:29:43The genetic code we inherit is like a colossal

0:29:43 > 0:29:45book of instructions for all the difference

0:29:45 > 0:29:46cells in our body.

0:29:46 > 0:29:49But exactly which part of these instructions any individual cell

0:29:49 > 0:29:51reads will make a dramatic difference to what kind of cell it

0:29:51 > 0:29:53is and how it behaves.

0:29:53 > 0:29:55If I cover at different parts of a sentence, it

0:29:55 > 0:29:57If I cover up different parts of a sentence, it

0:29:57 > 0:30:00changes its meaning, so an instruction not to do something

0:30:00 > 0:30:03becomes an instruction to do something.

0:30:03 > 0:30:06In our cells, it turns out that this covering up of parts

0:30:06 > 0:30:10of our genetic code, happens all the time.

0:30:10 > 0:30:12It's an important way to tell

0:30:12 > 0:30:15some of our cells to do

0:30:15 > 0:30:16different things from others.

0:30:16 > 0:30:21It's called DNA mmethylation.

0:30:21 > 0:30:24And now researchers have discovered that

0:30:24 > 0:30:25methylation can go wrong and

0:30:25 > 0:30:27that can lead to cancer.

0:30:27 > 0:30:31It's a whole new branch of being, known as epi- genetics, it is

0:30:31 > 0:30:40turning out to be every bit as important as genetics.

0:30:40 > 0:30:42Here at UCL, this are trying to work out how to

0:30:42 > 0:30:45use it to help us all reduce our cancer risk.

0:30:45 > 0:30:51Professor Martin Widschwendter is head of the team

0:30:51 > 0:30:54that studied tissue samples from Caroline

0:30:54 > 0:31:03and over 70 other women.

0:31:03 > 0:31:05They compared cells from women who had

0:31:05 > 0:31:07breast cancer, with cells from those who did not.

0:31:07 > 0:31:09They found a key change in DNA mmethylation that happens

0:31:09 > 0:31:10before a cancer develops.

0:31:10 > 0:31:12This DNA methylation signature allows us to

0:31:12 > 0:31:17identify women who are getting breast cancer in the future.

0:31:17 > 0:31:20How many cancers do you think might have some of this methylation

0:31:20 > 0:31:22process at the heart of them?

0:31:22 > 0:31:25What has been shown thoroughly, is that

0:31:25 > 0:31:30every cancer has a DNA methylation signature,

0:31:30 > 0:31:32so this is very good evidence that DNA methylation is a

0:31:32 > 0:31:37key trigger for cancer development.

0:31:37 > 0:31:40What is so important about DNA methylation is that it can be

0:31:40 > 0:31:41changed relatively easily.

0:31:41 > 0:31:51We now understand that the things we know can increase your risk of

0:31:51 > 0:31:53DNA methylation to a bad or abhorrent

0:31:53 > 0:31:57form, crucially, the changes are reversible.

0:31:57 > 0:31:59We know that smoking triggers the abhorrent DNA methylation

0:31:59 > 0:32:06if you stop smoking it goes back.

0:32:06 > 0:32:09So with the brand new understanding, Martin

0:32:09 > 0:32:11is developing a test looking for dangerous DNA methylation

0:32:11 > 0:32:16patterns in several types of cancer.

0:32:16 > 0:32:18We know they are an early warning system,

0:32:18 > 0:32:21one that allows people to take action before they develop cancer.

0:32:21 > 0:32:25He hopes that the test will be available to the public by 2020.

0:32:25 > 0:32:27This could be revolutionary, because if you can predict

0:32:27 > 0:32:29the development of a cancer before it happens, you

0:32:29 > 0:32:32have the chance to change the factors that enable that cancer to

0:32:32 > 0:32:39occur.

0:32:39 > 0:32:43It's been estimated for example that ten years after giving

0:32:43 > 0:32:46up smoking, your risk of developing lung cancer is comparable to someone

0:32:46 > 0:32:54who has never smoked.

0:32:54 > 0:32:56Prevention is better than cure, yet experience

0:32:56 > 0:33:00tells us we find it difficult to make changes in our lives,

0:33:00 > 0:33:10until we are given a personal diagnosis.

0:33:13 > 0:33:15As recently as 1981, up to 330,000 people a year

0:33:15 > 0:33:17were dying with cardiovascular disease without a

0:33:17 > 0:33:18warning.

0:33:18 > 0:33:21Then cholesterol and high blood pressure were identified as

0:33:21 > 0:33:25a warning sign, so people were able to manage their risk and the death

0:33:25 > 0:33:26rates fell by up to 50%.

0:33:26 > 0:33:31This new personalised test for assessing cancer risk, that I have

0:33:31 > 0:33:35seen being developed here at UCL could hold out a similar promise,

0:33:35 > 0:33:37potentially leading to a dramatic reduction in deaths from cancer.

0:33:37 > 0:33:44For Caroline, it's an exciting prospect.

0:33:44 > 0:33:53I feel very lucky to be part of the research that the team

0:33:53 > 0:34:01are doing into risk prediction.

0:34:01 > 0:34:03It means that future generations not only of

0:34:03 > 0:34:05my family but of other families and the general

0:34:05 > 0:34:07public may not have to

0:34:07 > 0:34:09have such drastic surgery, they a may not have to remove

0:34:09 > 0:34:13healthy body parts.

0:34:13 > 0:34:16While some changes we could make to reduce our cancer risk might involve

0:34:16 > 0:34:19giving things up, others may involve actively adding something to our

0:34:19 > 0:34:23lives.

0:34:23 > 0:34:30This is where our turmeric trials are really exciting.

0:34:30 > 0:34:32There are some researchers that believe

0:34:32 > 0:34:35there is an active ingredient in turmeric that can affect the

0:34:35 > 0:34:35methylation of genes.

0:34:35 > 0:34:38If this is the case, it could help explain

0:34:38 > 0:34:39turmeric's supposed anticancer properties?

0:34:39 > 0:34:49But is it true?

0:34:49 > 0:34:51By comparing our volunteers' methylation

0:34:51 > 0:34:53patterns at the start and end of the trial,

0:34:53 > 0:34:57Martin is hoping to find out it will be the first time anyone has

0:34:57 > 0:35:00looked in this way at whether or not changing our diet can make a change

0:35:00 > 0:35:01to our DNA methylation.

0:35:01 > 0:35:04We will find out the result later on in the

0:35:04 > 0:35:05programme.

0:35:05 > 0:35:09Still to come: Is there a natural alternative to HRT?

0:35:09 > 0:35:11And what does practicing mindfulness do to

0:35:11 > 0:35:20your brain?

0:35:20 > 0:35:22But first, meningitis was in the news earlier this year

0:35:22 > 0:35:26because of the tragic death of a two-year-old girl.

0:35:26 > 0:35:29But meningitis can strike down anyone at any age

0:35:29 > 0:35:33so.

0:35:33 > 0:35:38What are the signs we should be looking out for?

0:35:38 > 0:35:40Meningitis is an inflamation of the lining of the

0:35:40 > 0:35:42brain and spinal chord and can have a range

0:35:42 > 0:35:43of different causes.

0:35:43 > 0:35:51The most common cause of the infection

0:35:51 > 0:35:54is a virus or a bacterium that occurs in the nose and the throat.

0:35:54 > 0:35:57One of the most dangerous misconceptions about meningitis is

0:35:57 > 0:35:59that it only happens in children, it doesn't!

0:35:59 > 0:36:00It can affect anyone at any

0:36:00 > 0:36:01age and with great speed.

0:36:01 > 0:36:04And the effects can be long-lasting and even

0:36:04 > 0:36:07life threatening.

0:36:07 > 0:36:09There is a dangerous strain now on the rise and

0:36:09 > 0:36:11at this time of year young people leaving

0:36:11 > 0:36:12home to start college or

0:36:12 > 0:36:16university are especially vulnerable.

0:36:16 > 0:36:19So here at London's South Bank university we have set up

0:36:19 > 0:36:25our own Trust Me awareness stall to spread the word.

0:36:25 > 0:36:28It is on the rise between 18 and 24-year-olds.

0:36:28 > 0:36:32Helping us is Sophie who contracted meningitis three years ago.

0:36:32 > 0:36:34I didn't really know it could happen to adults.

0:36:34 > 0:36:36So when I did contract it

0:36:36 > 0:36:41was a big shock.

0:36:41 > 0:36:45Can you describe to me your symptoms?

0:36:45 > 0:36:47I had vomiting, diarrhoea, dislike of bright lights,

0:36:47 > 0:36:48headache...

0:36:48 > 0:36:55A stiffness, not feeling well.

0:36:55 > 0:36:58Flu-like symptoms, and then the next morning I woke up and I was

0:36:58 > 0:37:02violently shaking.

0:37:02 > 0:37:05My ends of my fingers had turned a bluish colour,

0:37:05 > 0:37:11the ends of my nose and feet there.

0:37:11 > 0:37:13There was a rash on my legs spreading up.

0:37:13 > 0:37:14Sophie had become dangerously ill.

0:37:14 > 0:37:17Her infection spread to her blood which caused sepsis.

0:37:17 > 0:37:20She had to have the tips of her fingers and toes

0:37:20 > 0:37:21amputated.

0:37:21 > 0:37:23Something that could have been prevented if the symptoms had

0:37:23 > 0:37:29been recognised sooner.

0:37:29 > 0:37:32There are different forms of meningitis but

0:37:32 > 0:37:35there is a group of symptoms mainly the same across them all.

0:37:35 > 0:37:40Headache, eyes sensitive to light.

0:37:40 > 0:37:41Neck stiffness, diarrhoea and vomiting.

0:37:41 > 0:37:43Lethargy.

0:37:43 > 0:37:53You can get muscular and joint pain and cold hands and feet which may

0:37:53 > 0:37:55indicate the beginning of sepsis, which is dangerous.

0:37:55 > 0:37:56Another symptom that people know about

0:37:56 > 0:37:59commonly is the rash that doesn't disappear when you press a glass

0:37:59 > 0:38:04against it but that is actually a late sign so, please don't wait

0:38:04 > 0:38:07against it but that is actually a late sign so please don't wait

0:38:07 > 0:38:10until that appears to get help, as that could be fatal.

0:38:10 > 0:38:12Students are especially at risk as they mix with

0:38:12 > 0:38:15lots of new people and the viruses and the bacteria that cause

0:38:15 > 0:38:18meningitis are spread in similar ways to the common cold, in

0:38:18 > 0:38:28sneezing, and coughing and prolonged close contact like kissing.

0:38:33 > 0:38:35A quarter of the age group hash our

0:38:35 > 0:38:38the bacteria in the nose and throat but the meningitis occurs when the

0:38:38 > 0:38:40bacteria breaks through to invade the body.

0:38:40 > 0:38:42Even if the young people don't fall ill themselves, they can

0:38:42 > 0:38:45spread the bacteria to the more vulnerable, such as the very young

0:38:45 > 0:38:46and the very old.

0:38:46 > 0:38:49What is the one thing you would say to people

0:38:49 > 0:38:50watching this about meningitis?

0:38:50 > 0:38:51I would say it happens very fast.

0:38:51 > 0:38:55They need to know the science of the symptoms and if you can to get

0:38:55 > 0:38:56vaccinated.

0:38:56 > 0:39:00Here at our Trust Me stall, we have medical staff on hand to give

0:39:00 > 0:39:02vaccinations to students who have not had one.

0:39:02 > 0:39:03Who has had the meningitis vaccine?

0:39:03 > 0:39:04No.

0:39:04 > 0:39:06No.

0:39:06 > 0:39:08Have you had the vaccination?

0:39:08 > 0:39:12When we were young.

0:39:12 > 0:39:14You have had the little one but there is another one.

0:39:14 > 0:39:16There are different vaccinations to prevent

0:39:16 > 0:39:17against different strains of

0:39:17 > 0:39:22bacteria.

0:39:22 > 0:39:26The one now offered to young people protects against four

0:39:26 > 0:39:33types, A, C, Y and the most dangerous, MW.

0:39:33 > 0:39:36After the exam is done, come and celebrate and get yourself

0:39:36 > 0:39:40vaccinated it is not any of the ones you have had before, it's a life

0:39:40 > 0:39:41saver.

0:39:41 > 0:39:44The aim as well as protecting against the disease is to prevent

0:39:44 > 0:39:45spreading amongst other age groups.

0:39:45 > 0:39:47Who is going to have it?

0:39:47 > 0:39:51I have not had it, so I would like to have it.

0:39:51 > 0:39:53Brilliant.

0:39:53 > 0:39:54OK.

0:39:54 > 0:39:59Another one in the bag.

0:39:59 > 0:40:01If you're starting university and have not already had the

0:40:01 > 0:40:04vaccination, you should get it as soon as you can.

0:40:04 > 0:40:08It's still important to stay vigilant as no

0:40:08 > 0:40:17vaccine gives 100% protection.

0:40:17 > 0:40:20Remember that meningitis can affect anyone of any age, not just young

0:40:20 > 0:40:22people.

0:40:22 > 0:40:25Learn to recognise the warning signs of meningitis in case you or someone

0:40:25 > 0:40:29you know becomes unwell.

0:40:29 > 0:40:31Because recognising the symptoms and getting

0:40:31 > 0:40:36early help is so important.

0:40:36 > 0:40:42For a list of symptoms check out our website: BBC.co.uk/trustme.

0:40:52 > 0:40:56In this series we are taking a close look at some of the so-called

0:40:56 > 0:40:59alternative therapies that claim to do things like relieve pain, cure

0:40:59 > 0:41:02addiction or improve our mental health.

0:41:02 > 0:41:04But do any of them really help?

0:41:04 > 0:41:08This time we are looking at mindfulness.

0:41:08 > 0:41:13This has become very popular in the UK in recent years.

0:41:13 > 0:41:23Fans claim it can be used to help depression, anxiety,

0:41:23 > 0:41:25all forms of mental illness that affect one in

0:41:25 > 0:41:26four of us.

0:41:26 > 0:41:30But how well does it really work?

0:41:30 > 0:41:32Now, I must admit I do occasionally practice mindfulness, as

0:41:32 > 0:41:34a way of managing stresses in my life.

0:41:34 > 0:41:35It's a form of meditation.

0:41:35 > 0:41:39What I do is sit somewhere quiet, close my eyes, and then I sort of

0:41:39 > 0:41:41breathe slowly in and out.

0:41:41 > 0:41:44And the idea is that thoughts and feelings will come and go

0:41:44 > 0:41:46but you just allow them to drift off, like

0:41:46 > 0:41:47leaves falling into a river.

0:41:47 > 0:41:49Mindfulness is about letting go of distracting thoughts and focussing

0:41:49 > 0:41:54on the present moment.

0:41:54 > 0:41:58The idea is that by teaching us to be more aware

0:41:58 > 0:42:00of thoughts and feelings, mindfulness helps us cope with

0:42:00 > 0:42:02stress and manage problems like depression and anxiety.

0:42:02 > 0:42:04I want to find out what impact mindfulness has

0:42:04 > 0:42:14on my brain.

0:42:18 > 0:42:21My investigation starts at Liverpool John Moores University in the

0:42:21 > 0:42:31laboratory of Dr Peter Melinoski.

0:42:32 > 0:42:34He has developed an experiment to see if

0:42:34 > 0:42:35the effects of mindfulness are measurable.

0:42:35 > 0:42:38What Peter is doing at the moment is applying electrodes to

0:42:38 > 0:42:41my head and he's going to be measuring the electrical activity in

0:42:41 > 0:42:45my brain.

0:42:45 > 0:42:48In a short while I'm going to be looking at some images, some

0:42:48 > 0:42:50serene, some of them quite disturbing, so disturbing you are

0:42:50 > 0:42:52not allowed to see them.

0:42:52 > 0:42:54We will see what it does to my brain, then I

0:42:54 > 0:42:57will be allowed to go off and meditate and then repeat the

0:42:57 > 0:43:00process, and see if doing so makes any difference to the electrical

0:43:00 > 0:43:01activity going on inside my brain.

0:43:01 > 0:43:11It should be interesting.

0:43:12 > 0:43:15The extreme pictures I am shown should create measurable shock waves

0:43:15 > 0:43:18of activity in my brain that Peter can record.

0:43:18 > 0:43:21Although I had been forewarned, some of the images are

0:43:21 > 0:43:22disturbing and provoke a strong reaction,

0:43:22 > 0:43:24which can be seen in the

0:43:24 > 0:43:31electrical activity in my brain.

0:43:31 > 0:43:34Next, I'm going to practice mindfulness for five minutes and

0:43:34 > 0:43:38then I'm going to be shown the images again.

0:43:38 > 0:43:40These particular images have been chosen as tests

0:43:40 > 0:43:41have shown that they would normally produce

0:43:41 > 0:43:42a consistent reaction in the

0:43:42 > 0:43:45brain each time they are shown.

0:43:45 > 0:43:48But does mindfulness make a difference

0:43:48 > 0:43:52to the way my brain responds?

0:43:53 > 0:43:55Thank you.

0:43:55 > 0:43:58That was quite hard work.

0:43:58 > 0:44:00It was also really interesting.

0:44:00 > 0:44:01Some of the photographs were very extreme.

0:44:01 > 0:44:04When I was doing it the first time I did

0:44:04 > 0:44:05wince a lot.

0:44:05 > 0:44:08When I did it while I was practicing mindfulness, it felt

0:44:08 > 0:44:10more abstract, if you like.

0:44:10 > 0:44:12It will be really interesting to see what

0:44:12 > 0:44:22the effects on my brain were.

0:44:22 > 0:44:25This is while you are just taking in the pictures.

0:44:25 > 0:44:27You are not in the state of mindfulness.

0:44:27 > 0:44:28With the neutral pictures, the black lines,

0:44:28 > 0:44:30there is not a strong response.

0:44:30 > 0:44:32With the pleasant pictures, you see a

0:44:32 > 0:44:34stronger brain response and for the unpleasant pictures,

0:44:34 > 0:44:36the strongest brain response.

0:44:36 > 0:44:41Once you induce a state of mindfulness, what we see is

0:44:41 > 0:44:43that the three conditions cannot be distinguished anymore.

0:44:43 > 0:44:46The brain processes them in the same way.

0:44:46 > 0:44:48Isn't this a bad thing, I'm becoming robotic,

0:44:48 > 0:44:52I am not longer in touch with my feelings?

0:44:52 > 0:44:55If you were only able to be in this state, I would say yes,

0:44:55 > 0:44:58but what our data clearly show is that you have

0:44:58 > 0:44:59the freedom to engage or not engage.

0:44:59 > 0:45:01So it's basically up to you to decide,

0:45:01 > 0:45:03now I want to engage in a

0:45:03 > 0:45:10mindful way and let neutral positive negative just pass by without

0:45:10 > 0:45:13engaging with it or you decide this is something that is important to

0:45:13 > 0:45:14me, I engage with it.

0:45:14 > 0:45:16And through the practice apparently you have

0:45:16 > 0:45:18gained the freedom to do one or the other.

0:45:18 > 0:45:19That's very encouraging.

0:45:19 > 0:45:20I can be happy.

0:45:20 > 0:45:22You should be.

0:45:22 > 0:45:27Neutral.

0:45:27 > 0:45:30That was impressive, a few minutes of meditation and you could

0:45:30 > 0:45:40see a

0:45:42 > 0:45:52see a big effect.

0:46:04 > 0:46:07But what about the real world, what effect does mindfulness

0:46:07 > 0:46:08have an positive mental health?

0:46:08 > 0:46:09To find out, I've invited a

0:46:09 > 0:46:12specialist from Oxford University to talk me through the recent explosion

0:46:12 > 0:46:13of scientific studies on mindfulness.

0:46:13 > 0:46:15His name is Professor Willem Kuyken.

0:46:15 > 0:46:17Now, you run the mindfulness centre at Oxford, so you have

0:46:17 > 0:46:18a

0:46:18 > 0:46:20vested interest, don't you, in

0:46:20 > 0:46:21talking about effectiveness?

0:46:21 > 0:46:22Do you think you can be impartial this

0:46:22 > 0:46:23regard?

0:46:23 > 0:46:24I'm also a scientist.

0:46:24 > 0:46:27I'm a scientist in terms of trying to ask

0:46:27 > 0:46:28good important questions using the very best

0:46:28 > 0:46:29methodology I can, and

0:46:29 > 0:46:31then reporting what I find responsibly.

0:46:31 > 0:46:33What's the evidence it's effective, and if so, for what?

0:46:33 > 0:46:36So the evidence is strongest in the area I work in,

0:46:36 > 0:46:37which is recurring depression.

0:46:37 > 0:46:39There have been at least ten randomised controlled trials now

0:46:39 > 0:46:41suggesting that mindfulness-based cognitive therapy is an effective

0:46:41 > 0:46:44treatment to help people with a long history of depression stay well.

0:46:44 > 0:46:45As effective as other active treatments.

0:46:45 > 0:46:47How do you think it works?

0:46:47 > 0:46:49What happens with recurring depression is very small shards of

0:46:49 > 0:46:51experience, thoughts, feelings, can quickly

0:46:51 > 0:46:51spiralled downwards.

0:46:51 > 0:46:53What mindfulness enables people to do is

0:46:53 > 0:46:54to see that happening.

0:46:54 > 0:46:56To see that unfolding, to step back and respond

0:46:56 > 0:46:58in different and more resilient ways.

0:46:58 > 0:46:59What about something like anxiety or insomnia.

0:46:59 > 0:47:01With anxiety, I'd say it's much more mixed.

0:47:01 > 0:47:03But there is some good, promising

0:47:03 > 0:47:04evidence for insomnia.

0:47:04 > 0:47:06So there is a huge industry out there from five

0:47:06 > 0:47:08maybe ten minute apps, to going on a full

0:47:08 > 0:47:10course of say 12 weeks.

0:47:10 > 0:47:12Is there any evidence that the short cut stuff is all effective?

0:47:12 > 0:47:16There have been some systematic reviews,

0:47:16 > 0:47:18metro-analyses, online, web-based mindfulness courses

0:47:18 > 0:47:28do lead to less space, best depression, less

0:47:29 > 0:47:31do lead to less stress, best depression, less

0:47:31 > 0:47:32anxiety.

0:47:32 > 0:47:34You cannot reach the population of people who might

0:47:34 > 0:47:36benefit from something to offering courses and one-to-one therapy.

0:47:36 > 0:47:38The way to reach them is through larger

0:47:38 > 0:47:39media, like the Internet, like apps.

0:47:39 > 0:47:42What benefit would someone like me get from doing it?

0:47:42 > 0:47:43I'm not depressed, I'm occasionally anxious

0:47:43 > 0:47:44and I'm occasionally an insomniac.

0:47:44 > 0:47:46I think very many of us spend quite a

0:47:46 > 0:47:50bit of our time on automatic pilot and we sometimes do and say things

0:47:50 > 0:47:53we perhaps regret, I think all of us bring a bit more awareness to our

0:47:53 > 0:47:57life, can maybe respond to our life with more wisdom, a little bit more

0:47:57 > 0:48:02skilful nest.

0:48:02 > 0:48:03skilfulness.

0:48:03 > 0:48:05Willem certainly makes a compelling case for mindfulness,

0:48:05 > 0:48:07particularly in the context of recurring depression.

0:48:07 > 0:48:11So should I try mindfulness?

0:48:11 > 0:48:14What I would say is that if you do it, you'll probably

0:48:14 > 0:48:17get a lot of benefit, but it's a bit like exercise.

0:48:17 > 0:48:19Many people start enthusiastically and then give up.

0:48:19 > 0:48:22The real challenge with mindfulness is to find a way to build it into

0:48:22 > 0:48:24your life and keep on going.

0:48:24 > 0:48:29Some mindfulness -based therapies are

0:48:29 > 0:48:32available on the NHS, but they may not be

0:48:32 > 0:48:33suitable for everyone, so

0:48:33 > 0:48:37take advice from your GP.

0:48:37 > 0:48:39While there is some evidence online tools

0:48:39 > 0:48:41can be effective, detailed research is still lacking.

0:48:41 > 0:48:44You'll find more information on our website.

0:48:44 > 0:48:46On our website you can send in the health

0:48:46 > 0:48:56questions you'd most like to see answered.

0:48:58 > 0:49:08Are there any natural alternatives to HRT?

0:49:10 > 0:49:12Over to Gabriel.

0:49:12 > 0:49:15Hormone replacement therapy or HRT, is prescribed for women

0:49:15 > 0:49:18during the menopause.

0:49:18 > 0:49:20Now, this is that time in a woman's life, usually

0:49:20 > 0:49:24between the age of 45 and 55, when the body stops producing enough

0:49:24 > 0:49:29oestrogen and progesterone to release an egg and the periods come

0:49:29 > 0:49:38to an end.

0:49:41 > 0:49:43But oestrogen and isn't just important for reproduction, it

0:49:43 > 0:49:45also protects us against osteoporosis, and may even have a

0:49:45 > 0:49:47role to play in maintaining our mental health.

0:49:47 > 0:49:50Having lower levels of these hormones can also cause unpleasant

0:49:50 > 0:49:53symptoms that some women suffer for years

0:49:53 > 0:49:56before the menopause, and they

0:49:56 > 0:49:59can continue for years after periods have stopped.

0:49:59 > 0:50:02HRT can help alleviate the symptoms but it's not suitable

0:50:02 > 0:50:05for everybody.

0:50:05 > 0:50:07In particular, women with a history of breast cancer are

0:50:07 > 0:50:09recommended not to use it, because oestrogen stimulates

0:50:09 > 0:50:16the growth of breast cells.

0:50:16 > 0:50:19Aside from this, there are lots of women who would

0:50:19 > 0:50:21simply prefer to try natural remedies.

0:50:21 > 0:50:23There are over 200 treatments on offer for symptoms of

0:50:23 > 0:50:25the menopause.

0:50:25 > 0:50:27Many are heavily marketed supplements, however,

0:50:27 > 0:50:28there's very little evidence any of them

0:50:28 > 0:50:32are effective, and some have

0:50:32 > 0:50:35been found to interfere with the prescribed medication or nasty

0:50:35 > 0:50:39side-effects.

0:50:39 > 0:50:42Some of the most popular remedies are ones to be wary

0:50:42 > 0:50:43of.

0:50:43 > 0:50:46Evening primrose oil can interfere with other drugs for blood

0:50:46 > 0:50:48pressure, cancer and diabetes.

0:50:48 > 0:50:52Ginseng can cause bleeding and breast pain.

0:50:52 > 0:51:00High doses of vitamin each may give you stomach cramp,

0:51:00 > 0:51:03High doses of vitamin E may give you stomach cramp,

0:51:03 > 0:51:05blurred vision and even an increased risk of stroke.

0:51:05 > 0:51:07Black Cohosh might reduce hot flushes and night sweats,

0:51:07 > 0:51:11but there is a risk of damage to the liver.

0:51:11 > 0:51:12And St John's Wort might

0:51:12 > 0:51:15improve mood, but interacts with many medications.

0:51:15 > 0:51:18And remember, if you buy herbal supplements, always make

0:51:18 > 0:51:20sure you look for that THR mark which ensures the product complies

0:51:20 > 0:51:22with the quality and safety standards.

0:51:22 > 0:51:32But there are some cheaper and possibly more effective

0:51:38 > 0:51:48things than these you can try.

0:51:54 > 0:51:55One of these is soy.

0:51:55 > 0:51:57There's some research that suggests that

0:51:57 > 0:51:58particular foods might have a

0:51:58 > 0:51:59beneficial effect.

0:51:59 > 0:52:00One of these is soy.

0:52:00 > 0:52:02It's rich natural substances called isoflavones, that behave

0:52:02 > 0:52:03similarly to oestrogen in our bodies.

0:52:03 > 0:52:06Isoflavones can also be found in tofu, soy beans and soy

0:52:06 > 0:52:08milk and fermented soy bean miso paste.

0:52:08 > 0:52:09But not in soy sauce.

0:52:09 > 0:52:12Studies have shown that in Asia, where women eat about ten times more

0:52:12 > 0:52:15soy than women in the West, the symptoms of menopause, such as hot

0:52:15 > 0:52:17flushes, tend to be far less severe.

0:52:17 > 0:52:19Another good source of isoflavones is flaxseed.

0:52:19 > 0:52:22More research is needed, but it's thought soy or flax

0:52:22 > 0:52:25might help in about a third of Western women and that unlike HRT,

0:52:25 > 0:52:29it doesn't carry any increased risk of breast cancer.

0:52:29 > 0:52:31There are alternatives for HRT and one of them

0:52:31 > 0:52:35might work for you, but this is my basic advice.

0:52:35 > 0:52:40Before taking any new supplement, do talk to your GP.

0:52:40 > 0:52:47Do your best to get as much exercise and rest as possible.

0:52:47 > 0:52:49And consider adding soy or flax seeds to your

0:52:49 > 0:52:50diet.

0:52:50 > 0:52:53They are not going to harm you, they might help, and they are

0:52:53 > 0:53:02definitely tasty.

0:53:02 > 0:53:05In a Newcastle, are ambitious trial to test if

0:53:05 > 0:53:07turmeric affects our health has come to an end.

0:53:07 > 0:53:09Of nearly 100 participants, a third have been

0:53:09 > 0:53:14taking turmeric powder for six weeks, a third the same amount of

0:53:14 > 0:53:17turmeric as a supplement and the third a placebo pill.

0:53:17 > 0:53:19And they've had mixed experiences.

0:53:19 > 0:53:21I took turmeric powder.

0:53:21 > 0:53:24Awful.

0:53:24 > 0:53:26It's not normally part of my diet.

0:53:26 > 0:53:29When I first started cooking with it I was

0:53:29 > 0:53:31quite surprised what the taste was like.

0:53:31 > 0:53:33We've brought together researchers working together at the

0:53:33 > 0:53:36forefront of their fields to help us find out whether turmeric really can

0:53:36 > 0:53:40reduce immune system problems like allergies or even help

0:53:40 > 0:53:42protect us from cancer.

0:53:42 > 0:53:46First up, the test that Newcastle University developed to

0:53:46 > 0:53:48assess the health of their immune systems.

0:53:48 > 0:53:50Doctor Anthony Watson, and

0:53:50 > 0:53:53Doctor Kirsten Brandt, are here to present results.

0:53:53 > 0:53:56And they've found that stress on everyone's immune

0:53:56 > 0:54:01system increased over the six weeks.

0:54:01 > 0:54:06It was no difference whether you were taking the white

0:54:06 > 0:54:08capsules with the placebo or the brown ones with

0:54:08 > 0:54:11the real turmeric, or you are cooking with it.

0:54:11 > 0:54:14There wasn't any difference between the placebo group

0:54:14 > 0:54:15and the group who were...

0:54:15 > 0:54:16Cooking with this stuff?

0:54:16 > 0:54:18Yes.

0:54:18 > 0:54:21The fact everyone's immune system became a

0:54:21 > 0:54:24little more stressed could be because the weather became sunnier

0:54:24 > 0:54:30during the trial, something known to affect immunity.

0:54:30 > 0:54:32But the fact the placebo group changed as much as the

0:54:32 > 0:54:36other two shows it wasn't the turmeric making the difference.

0:54:36 > 0:54:39Next to the test we did looking at

0:54:39 > 0:54:44changes in the methylation of their DNA.

0:54:44 > 0:54:46This brand-new test developed by University College London has

0:54:46 > 0:54:48never been used in a study like this before.

0:54:48 > 0:54:51Professor Martin Widschwendter shares the results for

0:54:51 > 0:54:52the three groups.

0:54:52 > 0:54:54What did you find?

0:54:54 > 0:54:56We didn't find any changes in the placebo

0:54:56 > 0:54:57group between before and

0:54:57 > 0:55:07after six weeks.

0:55:07 > 0:55:08The supplements group didn't show any

0:55:08 > 0:55:12difference, but the powder group definitely showed quite substantial

0:55:12 > 0:55:14differences between the pre-and post-turmeric exposure.

0:55:14 > 0:55:16Interesting.

0:55:16 > 0:55:17Placebo no effect, supplements no effect, but turmeric

0:55:17 > 0:55:20powder definitely an effect.

0:55:20 > 0:55:22Yes, that was really, really quite exciting, to be

0:55:22 > 0:55:26honest.

0:55:26 > 0:55:29And we found one particular gene which showed the

0:55:29 > 0:55:32biggest difference and what we know is that this gene is involved in

0:55:32 > 0:55:42three specific diseases.

0:55:42 > 0:55:43One is depression and anxiety.

0:55:43 > 0:55:44OK.

0:55:44 > 0:55:46One is asthma and eczema and the third is cancer.

0:55:46 > 0:55:48Quite interestingly, and this is really

0:55:48 > 0:55:49striking, is that those are

0:55:49 > 0:55:52the three entities, that we know turmeric is affecting in a positive

0:55:52 > 0:56:00way.

0:56:00 > 0:56:02That is very impressive, isn't it.

0:56:02 > 0:56:03Do you like turmeric?

0:56:03 > 0:56:04I'm sure I would!

0:56:04 > 0:56:06This is a really significant change in a gene associated with

0:56:06 > 0:56:08conditions that turmeric has been rumoured to improve.

0:56:08 > 0:56:12It is something that has never been seen before and it is an exciting

0:56:12 > 0:56:15finding and it happened after only six weeks.

0:56:15 > 0:56:25But why did we see a

0:56:30 > 0:56:31change only in those cooking with turmeric?

0:56:31 > 0:56:33Not those taking it as a

0:56:33 > 0:56:34supplement.

0:56:34 > 0:56:35Dr Kirsten Brandt explains.

0:56:35 > 0:56:38So the food with the turmeric in it is somehow making a difference it

0:56:38 > 0:56:41could be that the way we are cooking, adding fats,

0:56:41 > 0:56:43heating it up, so it is becoming more soluble, that

0:56:43 > 0:56:47might make it easier tor us to take up the turmeric, that inspires us to

0:56:47 > 0:56:50might make it easier for us to take up the turmeric, that inspires us to

0:56:50 > 0:56:53say, we should probably use more turmeric in our cooking that then we

0:56:53 > 0:56:54did before!

0:56:54 > 0:56:57Many things can effect how much of a substance we absorb in

0:56:57 > 0:57:00our bodies, it seems that in the case of turmeric, the good stuff

0:57:00 > 0:57:07might only get into our blood when it is combined with other foods,

0:57:07 > 0:57:09These results have changed our volunteer's opinion of

0:57:09 > 0:57:10the spice.

0:57:10 > 0:57:14The results surprised me that the natural form was the best

0:57:14 > 0:57:16one but probably is a bit obvious, when you

0:57:16 > 0:57:18think about it, having a natural one, rather

0:57:18 > 0:57:19than having it put in a

0:57:19 > 0:57:20capsule.

0:57:20 > 0:57:30Whether I can have it as much in as high a dose under normal

0:57:30 > 0:57:33circumstances, I don't know but yes, I will certainly keep using it.

0:57:33 > 0:57:35I think I might add turmeric to my food!

0:57:35 > 0:57:36Our experiment has been a

0:57:36 > 0:57:37resounding success.

0:57:37 > 0:57:39We've been able to show that cooking with turmeric

0:57:39 > 0:57:42can affect our bodies at the level of gene, and inparticular,

0:57:42 > 0:57:52the gene linked to cancer and other ills ins,

0:57:52 > 0:57:54the gene linked to cancer and other illnesses,

0:57:54 > 0:57:56in doing so, with have turned researcher's new understanding of

0:57:56 > 0:57:58DNA mmethylation to a practical benefit.

0:57:58 > 0:58:00DNA methylation to a practical benefit.

0:58:00 > 0:58:02Now that was the most ambitious experiment we have ever

0:58:02 > 0:58:03attempted on Trust Me.

0:58:03 > 0:58:05I thought that the results were absolutely

0:58:05 > 0:58:06fascinating.

0:58:06 > 0:58:10We have shown, for what I think is the first time, what a

0:58:10 > 0:58:13small change in our diet can alter the methylation of the genes, which

0:58:13 > 0:58:16in turn we know is associated with your risk of cancer.

0:58:16 > 0:58:18And the great thing is that the techniques used in

0:58:18 > 0:58:21this test could be used to taste a whole range of other

0:58:21 > 0:58:22things, not just turmeric.

0:58:22 > 0:58:25It's a fantastic way to end this series of Trust Me but

0:58:25 > 0:58:26don't worry, we will be back.

0:58:26 > 0:58:29In the meantime why not visit our website, where you can

0:58:29 > 0:58:39volunteer for experiments and find out more

0:58:41 > 0:58:43the things we have done in

0:58:43 > 0:58:53this series.