Scotland and the Klan

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0:00:04 > 0:00:12This programme contains some strong language and some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

0:00:17 > 0:00:22On the 17th of June 2015, Charleston, in South Carolina,

0:00:22 > 0:00:24saw one of the worst racially motivated killings

0:00:24 > 0:00:26in recent American history.

0:00:30 > 0:00:34Nine black worshippers were shot dead during a prayer meeting

0:00:34 > 0:00:35at this downtown church.

0:00:40 > 0:00:43The killer was identified as 21-year-old

0:00:43 > 0:00:47white supremacist Dylann Roof.

0:00:47 > 0:00:49He confessed to committing the massacre in the hope

0:00:49 > 0:00:51of igniting a race war.

0:00:54 > 0:00:58All of America was shocked, but in the Southern states,

0:00:58 > 0:01:00where race has been an issue for centuries,

0:01:00 > 0:01:04the shooting also triggered a passionate argument about the past.

0:01:06 > 0:01:10Much of it focused on the Confederate battle flag,

0:01:10 > 0:01:13for many the very symbol of racism and hate.

0:01:14 > 0:01:19But what is it about the past that stokes the flames of racism here?

0:01:19 > 0:01:21That's the question that interests me,

0:01:21 > 0:01:24because it seems that the bedrock of the Southern states of America,

0:01:24 > 0:01:28the old Confederate Deep South, is, deep down,

0:01:28 > 0:01:31more than a little Scottish.

0:01:31 > 0:01:35He lifted the blazing emblem, the fiery cross of old Scotland's hill.

0:01:35 > 0:01:40It would become the most identifiable symbols of race hatred,

0:01:40 > 0:01:42of the Ku Klux Klan.

0:01:42 > 0:01:46I think white Southerners do think of themselves as Celts.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48It is absolutely a core idea

0:01:48 > 0:01:51for a lot of these white supremacist groups,

0:01:51 > 0:01:54including the original Klan which, of course, was thinking of

0:01:54 > 0:01:57Scottish clans with a C when they called themselves

0:01:57 > 0:01:58the Ku Klux Klan with a K.

0:02:06 > 0:02:10I've spent a lot of time celebrating the legacy of Scots who left home

0:02:10 > 0:02:14and helped lay the foundations of the United States of America.

0:02:14 > 0:02:20When they arrived here, they had the chance to create something new,

0:02:20 > 0:02:22something perfect -

0:02:22 > 0:02:24a new world.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27A third of the signatories of the Declaration of Independence

0:02:27 > 0:02:30were Scots. The pursuit of happiness, the most famous part

0:02:30 > 0:02:33of the Declaration, is arguably a Scottish idea.

0:02:35 > 0:02:38But the New World is not perfect,

0:02:38 > 0:02:40and I want to find out why.

0:02:40 > 0:02:45If the Scots had a significant hand in conjuring the American dream,

0:02:45 > 0:02:49to what extent were they also responsible for the nightmare?

0:02:49 > 0:02:51That ugliest of stains,

0:02:51 > 0:02:55the bloody, violent history of race hatred

0:02:55 > 0:02:58that blights America to this day.

0:03:14 > 0:03:18I'm travelling over 2,000 miles of the Southern states of America.

0:03:18 > 0:03:21It's somewhere I've never been before

0:03:21 > 0:03:25and I'm going to explore how early Scottish immigration evolved

0:03:25 > 0:03:29and see whether it's had an enduring impact on race relations here.

0:03:31 > 0:03:35This seems like a natural place to start as I'm told

0:03:35 > 0:03:40it's living evidence of the Scots that originally settled here.

0:03:40 > 0:03:42I'm in Greenville, in South Carolina,

0:03:42 > 0:03:44on the eve of their annual gathering

0:03:44 > 0:03:46for the Highland Games.

0:03:46 > 0:03:48I can hear the pipes.

0:03:48 > 0:03:50There must be Scottish people here.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07Come on, Greenville, let's hear you!

0:04:07 > 0:04:09- We're Scottish American.- OK.

0:04:09 > 0:04:11You put the Scottish first?

0:04:11 > 0:04:13We do tonight, yes, absolutely.

0:04:13 > 0:04:16- Do you claim Scottish descent?- Yes.

0:04:16 > 0:04:19If you were to score yourself out of ten as a Scot,

0:04:19 > 0:04:22what number would you give yourself?

0:04:22 > 0:04:25Today, a ten.

0:04:25 > 0:04:27I have a four-year-old, if I could get him out here...

0:04:27 > 0:04:29He's so scared of bagpipes -

0:04:29 > 0:04:32as soon as I can get him over that, it'd be fantastic.

0:04:32 > 0:04:34He's scared of bagpipes?

0:04:34 > 0:04:35- Yeah.- That's a worrying...

0:04:35 > 0:04:37Oh, here we go.

0:04:41 > 0:04:43The next day, at the Games proper,

0:04:43 > 0:04:46I asked yet more well turned-out Scots what they thought of

0:04:46 > 0:04:49the effect of Scottish migration to the States.

0:04:49 > 0:04:53They influenced everything. I mean, the first governor of South Carolina

0:04:53 > 0:04:54was a boy from Roxburghshire,

0:04:54 > 0:04:57and he very quickly wanted state laws that reflected the way

0:04:57 > 0:04:59things were back in Scotland.

0:05:02 > 0:05:05Some historians will tell you, if you look at the Confederate flag

0:05:05 > 0:05:09from the Civil War... Very similar to a St Andrew's in terms of design.

0:05:09 > 0:05:12They see a connection there because there was a lot of Scottish heritage

0:05:12 > 0:05:14in those early days.

0:05:14 > 0:05:16Coming from a place where you weren't allowed to have

0:05:16 > 0:05:18your own land and you felt you were kept down by the landlords,

0:05:18 > 0:05:21the first thing you do when you get here is buy slaves.

0:05:21 > 0:05:24There's a kind of disjuncture there, isn't there?

0:05:41 > 0:05:42Greenville's not unique.

0:05:42 > 0:05:46All over the South, I'm finding people keen to describe themselves

0:05:46 > 0:05:49or their ancestors as Scottish.

0:05:49 > 0:05:54How and why did the Scots arrive here, and what does that tell us

0:05:54 > 0:05:56about the nature of the South today?

0:06:00 > 0:06:03I've found one man who has written extensively

0:06:03 > 0:06:05on transatlantic immigration.

0:06:05 > 0:06:10Barry Vann has studied the subject in the United States and in the UK.

0:06:12 > 0:06:16He brought me to one of the peaks of the Blue Ridge Mountains in Virginia

0:06:16 > 0:06:18to look down on the Great Appalachian Valley

0:06:18 > 0:06:22that most of the early Scottish settlers would have passed through

0:06:22 > 0:06:24during the 18th century.

0:06:24 > 0:06:26They were going to the frontier looking for cheap land,

0:06:26 > 0:06:27ran into those mountains -

0:06:27 > 0:06:30they couldn't go north because that land was already occupied.

0:06:30 > 0:06:33They couldn't go over the mountains because it was too difficult

0:06:33 > 0:06:35to get over them and there were probably hostile natives over there,

0:06:35 > 0:06:37so they came down the valley this way.

0:06:37 > 0:06:39It's such a massive undertaking for these people -

0:06:39 > 0:06:41what's driving it?

0:06:41 > 0:06:45One was economic, because they were coming from a place where the lands

0:06:45 > 0:06:47that they had farmed for generations

0:06:47 > 0:06:50were no longer available to them because they weren't able

0:06:50 > 0:06:53to afford the money rent that was required to stay on those lands.

0:06:53 > 0:06:58But here they could acquire lands and become their own lord.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01So, in a lot of respects, they were trying to recreate

0:07:01 > 0:07:04the imagined Scotland that they had back there.

0:07:04 > 0:07:06But they wanted it here

0:07:06 > 0:07:08because they had more resources.

0:07:08 > 0:07:10Look at those beautiful trees. Water was plentiful.

0:07:10 > 0:07:12Nice, longer growing seasons.

0:07:12 > 0:07:16You know, this was... This was a bountiful place.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18This was the Scotland that they'd imagined.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20Scotland 2.0.

0:07:20 > 0:07:21- That's right.- The upgrade.

0:07:21 > 0:07:23The upgrade. Absolutely.

0:07:24 > 0:07:28It wasn't just the prospect of a better future that drew Scots

0:07:28 > 0:07:31to what they called the backcountry.

0:07:31 > 0:07:36They were tempted here because of their reputation as fighting folk,

0:07:36 > 0:07:40recruited to help defend the coastal areas already settled by the English

0:07:40 > 0:07:44from Native Americans and the French.

0:07:44 > 0:07:47They wanted them to come to the backcountry, to this part

0:07:47 > 0:07:51of the state, or colony at that time, and to be a buffer zone

0:07:51 > 0:07:54against potential invasion.

0:07:54 > 0:07:57MUSIC: Ba Mo Leanabh by William Jackson & Mackenzie

0:08:05 > 0:08:09This is probably the oldest part of the cemetery right here.

0:08:09 > 0:08:11These are some of the founding families -

0:08:11 > 0:08:13second generation.

0:08:13 > 0:08:14'Down in the valley

0:08:14 > 0:08:18'lies the resting place of many of those early frontiers people.'

0:08:18 > 0:08:20Look at that - Scot, Kirkpatrick, Bell.

0:08:20 > 0:08:24- Yes.- They came from Scotland and from Ulster,

0:08:24 > 0:08:27and they quickly exceeded the number of English settlers in the South.

0:08:29 > 0:08:33Next to the graveyard, we can see what united these newcomers.

0:08:34 > 0:08:37This church is built on the site of one of the earliest

0:08:37 > 0:08:40Presbyterian places of worship in the area.

0:08:40 > 0:08:43Were they a happy lot, do you think?

0:08:43 > 0:08:47Or were they coming in with lots of emotional

0:08:47 > 0:08:49and religious baggage

0:08:49 > 0:08:53on account of the old country they had left behind?

0:08:53 > 0:08:56Well, when they got here, they were interested in acquiring land and

0:08:56 > 0:08:59they also knew that they were going to be facing potential hostiles.

0:08:59 > 0:09:03And so they were not necessarily coming here with an open hand,

0:09:03 > 0:09:05saying, "We want to be friends," you know.

0:09:05 > 0:09:07They came here, for the most part,

0:09:07 > 0:09:09interested in farming, if they could,

0:09:09 > 0:09:12and they wanted to live at strategically important places.

0:09:12 > 0:09:15That's why we call them today hillbillies and hilltoppers,

0:09:15 > 0:09:17because they wanted to live up in the hills

0:09:17 > 0:09:18where they could see the enemy coming.

0:09:18 > 0:09:21For those Presbyterians, who were the enemy?

0:09:21 > 0:09:25Who was it they thought was going to come and attack them on their hills?

0:09:25 > 0:09:27Anybody who wasn't them.

0:09:27 > 0:09:29It could be the English,

0:09:29 > 0:09:32because they had a history of conflict with the English,

0:09:32 > 0:09:34they had a history of conflict with the Catholics,

0:09:34 > 0:09:36they had a history of conflict

0:09:36 > 0:09:39with almost anybody who was not dissenting, if you will.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44Some of those settlers, confident about who they were

0:09:44 > 0:09:47and, just as importantly, who they weren't,

0:09:47 > 0:09:50strode out into the untamed backcountry,

0:09:50 > 0:09:53moving further south and west with each generation.

0:10:05 > 0:10:08But at the end of the 18th century, the settlers' simple way of life

0:10:08 > 0:10:12was transformed by something that changed the course

0:10:12 > 0:10:14of this part of America forever.

0:10:20 > 0:10:21It was the arrival of cotton.

0:10:24 > 0:10:27To the frontier farmers, the economics were simple -

0:10:27 > 0:10:31cotton was a cash crop that brought relatively easy money.

0:10:32 > 0:10:34It also offered an easy life,

0:10:34 > 0:10:38as long as those picking the cotton were slaves.

0:10:42 > 0:10:45As the cotton industry grew, so did slavery.

0:10:45 > 0:10:50By 1810, the number of slaves in the US rose to 1.2 million,

0:10:50 > 0:10:53almost double what it was 20 years earlier.

0:10:57 > 0:11:01Now the descendants of many oppressed and downtrodden

0:11:01 > 0:11:04refugee Scots took the path of racism

0:11:04 > 0:11:07to become oppressors themselves.

0:11:07 > 0:11:10And their simple farmhouses became

0:11:10 > 0:11:14increasingly grand plantation houses,

0:11:14 > 0:11:18like this one, built in 1851 just outside Charleston

0:11:18 > 0:11:20by William Wallace McLeod.

0:11:23 > 0:11:26He owned one of the largest plantations in South Carolina,

0:11:26 > 0:11:29but, like many, he never forgot his roots -

0:11:29 > 0:11:32he called the grand house Inverness.

0:11:34 > 0:11:38The impression planters wanted to give was one of affluence,

0:11:38 > 0:11:41and the most striking display of wealth at that time was measured

0:11:41 > 0:11:45by the number of slave cabins that lined the drive to the house.

0:11:48 > 0:11:50Here, there were 23.

0:11:51 > 0:11:54I asked Heather Williams to show me around.

0:11:54 > 0:11:57Not only is she an expert in slavery in the South,

0:11:57 > 0:12:00but she's known this place for some time.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02When I first came to this place,

0:12:02 > 0:12:08for me it was a really powerful sense of the past.

0:12:08 > 0:12:09You know, the cabins...

0:12:09 > 0:12:13It seemed as though slavery just ended one day and everybody

0:12:13 > 0:12:17had packed up and left, and that I had been, in a sense,

0:12:17 > 0:12:22transported back to that time period, the late 1860s.

0:12:22 > 0:12:27In order for a society to survive, you need the top people who think

0:12:27 > 0:12:29and then the people who do the work.

0:12:29 > 0:12:32This is what James Henry Hammond said - he was a senator

0:12:32 > 0:12:36from South Carolina, a governor and so on.

0:12:36 > 0:12:39"You need a mudsill," he said, "in society,

0:12:39 > 0:12:42"and we have found them in these Africans who are so well-suited

0:12:42 > 0:12:44"to do the work that we don't want to do."

0:12:56 > 0:12:59They were legally owned.

0:12:59 > 0:13:02They could be sold, they could be traded, they could be given away,

0:13:02 > 0:13:04they could be mortgaged.

0:13:04 > 0:13:06People could transfer them.

0:13:06 > 0:13:10There was this perpetual sense that they would be punished

0:13:10 > 0:13:13if they didn't adhere to the rules of the place.

0:13:15 > 0:13:21So would this be about as good as it gets for enslaved people?

0:13:21 > 0:13:26This is... Yeah, I think I've seen cabins made of brick which might

0:13:26 > 0:13:29have kept people a little bit warmer in the winter.

0:13:29 > 0:13:33I would think that there would be at least six, seven people in here.

0:13:35 > 0:13:40William Wallace McLeod enslaved up to 100 people on his plantation

0:13:40 > 0:13:43while he lived the life of undoubted privilege.

0:13:55 > 0:14:00Being here, in a place where slavery actually happened,

0:14:00 > 0:14:03I have to admit I'm filled, for the first time,

0:14:03 > 0:14:06with feelings of disbelief

0:14:06 > 0:14:12at the surreal nature of the life that those elite whites

0:14:12 > 0:14:14chose for themselves.

0:14:14 > 0:14:19How you get to the point where you can enjoy a life

0:14:19 > 0:14:23that is composed of people who are your captives,

0:14:23 > 0:14:27who are around you in great numbers, every minute of the day,

0:14:27 > 0:14:31doing things against their will for no pay... They cook your food,

0:14:31 > 0:14:35they work in the fields, they fix up the house.

0:14:35 > 0:14:36If it's a cold night,

0:14:36 > 0:14:40you would order one of them to lie across your feet

0:14:40 > 0:14:43on your bed so that you are warm.

0:14:49 > 0:14:51At what point

0:14:51 > 0:14:56does living like that feel in any sense normal?

0:15:00 > 0:15:03And it was another Scot who provided the balm

0:15:03 > 0:15:05that made all this seem legitimate.

0:15:07 > 0:15:11By the mid-1800s, almost every house like this would have contained

0:15:11 > 0:15:15some of the many romantic novels of Sir Walter Scott.

0:15:15 > 0:15:19Scott's stories of gallant knights and brave highlanders,

0:15:19 > 0:15:23set in a golden, mythical past, were wildly popular.

0:15:27 > 0:15:31But according to the American writer Mark Twain

0:15:31 > 0:15:33they merely fed this fantasy lifestyle.

0:15:35 > 0:15:38Twain thought the planters were modelling their lives

0:15:38 > 0:15:41on Scott's romantic vision of the old country,

0:15:41 > 0:15:44imagining themselves as lairds of their own clan.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49He wrote that the civilisation of the South in the 19th century

0:15:49 > 0:15:52is curiously confused and commingled

0:15:52 > 0:15:56with the Walter Scott middle-age sham civilisation.

0:15:56 > 0:16:00The inflated speech and the jejune romanticism of an absurd past

0:16:00 > 0:16:04that is dead and, out of charity, ought to be buried.

0:16:05 > 0:16:09I think that for many people it felt as though it was something

0:16:09 > 0:16:14they were entitled to, and I think that sense of entitlement

0:16:14 > 0:16:17then passed from generation to generation.

0:16:17 > 0:16:20You know, this sense that you are supposed to have

0:16:20 > 0:16:22more than other people,

0:16:22 > 0:16:27and that some people are supposed to serve and you are to be served.

0:16:27 > 0:16:31Twain also thought that Scott's heroic romanticism

0:16:31 > 0:16:34was partly responsible for the terrible war that followed.

0:16:39 > 0:16:42The Northern states had wanted to limit the expansion of slavery

0:16:42 > 0:16:46just as the worldwide demand for cotton was booming.

0:16:46 > 0:16:49Southern state planters like William MacLeod

0:16:49 > 0:16:53saw their whole lifestyle threatened and were willing to fight for it.

0:16:53 > 0:16:58In 1861, the 11 slave states with cotton-based economies

0:16:58 > 0:17:02left the Union, and a horrific four-year war began.

0:17:07 > 0:17:09Now, 150 years later,

0:17:09 > 0:17:13people flock to see the Civil War as entertainment,

0:17:13 > 0:17:17and Living History groups meet regularly to replay the battles

0:17:17 > 0:17:18again and again.

0:17:18 > 0:17:21This one is at Fort Hollingsworth, in Georgia,

0:17:21 > 0:17:26where re-enactors from all over the Southern states take part.

0:17:26 > 0:17:31What is it important to remember by taking part in and watching

0:17:31 > 0:17:32a re-enactment like this?

0:17:32 > 0:17:35It's important to make sure that the people understand

0:17:35 > 0:17:37what the history is all about.

0:17:37 > 0:17:40It's important they remember that this is something that

0:17:40 > 0:17:43their ancestors fought for, and something that's actually

0:17:43 > 0:17:45a part of them.

0:17:45 > 0:17:48This is something that they were born ingrained with,

0:17:48 > 0:17:49and they should remember that.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52What does define the ancestors?

0:17:52 > 0:17:55They didn't leave any of their culture behind,

0:17:55 > 0:17:58they just brought it here and used that culture

0:17:58 > 0:18:01and created something completely new.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03You know, even from the way we talk,

0:18:03 > 0:18:06even down to the patterns in their clothes...

0:18:06 > 0:18:10I mean, when the Scots came here, they brought with them the tartans.

0:18:10 > 0:18:15Our way of life is probably closer to those in Scotland that are now

0:18:15 > 0:18:18in this part of the country - we held on to a lot of their ways.

0:18:18 > 0:18:22I think we do, yeah. I think we do.

0:18:22 > 0:18:24What was lost when the war was lost?

0:18:24 > 0:18:27The way we lived, actually.

0:18:27 > 0:18:34They had plantations, a lot of folks had plantations and a lot of wealth,

0:18:34 > 0:18:37and a lot of that was lost in the South.

0:18:37 > 0:18:40They had to go back and start life over.

0:18:43 > 0:18:45America's Civil War was immensely destructive.

0:18:47 > 0:18:50Well over 500,000 soldiers died

0:18:50 > 0:18:53and much of the South's infrastructure was ruined.

0:18:58 > 0:19:02But, for many whites, the greatest fear of all had just come true -

0:19:02 > 0:19:04the enslaved were now free.

0:19:06 > 0:19:10Not only that, but black men could also vote,

0:19:10 > 0:19:14just as the vengeful North took away the right to vote for those

0:19:14 > 0:19:16that supported the Confederacy.

0:19:20 > 0:19:24Like the Jacobites in Scotland 100 years earlier,

0:19:24 > 0:19:27the Southern whites had lost everything.

0:19:27 > 0:19:31But now they too had a lost cause to believe in.

0:19:38 > 0:19:41That lost cause found its footing here,

0:19:41 > 0:19:45in the neat streets of Pulaski, in Tennessee.

0:19:45 > 0:19:49This is where things first started to turn ugly.

0:19:51 > 0:19:54I've come to meet local historian Bob Wamble to find out

0:19:54 > 0:19:59what happened in the town after the end of the Civil War.

0:19:59 > 0:20:02Bob, when the war was over and the soldiers came back,

0:20:02 > 0:20:04what did they find here in Pulaski?

0:20:04 > 0:20:07Right here in town, where we are,

0:20:07 > 0:20:10they found a courthouse, and that was pretty much it.

0:20:10 > 0:20:13This entire side of the square was burnt to the ground.

0:20:13 > 0:20:16- Really?- It was done by Union soldiers that were stationed here.

0:20:18 > 0:20:21All these Confederate soldiers that came home and had nothing...

0:20:21 > 0:20:25If they had owned a business before the war, it was gone,

0:20:25 > 0:20:26it was burnt to the ground.

0:20:26 > 0:20:29They had no government, they had no law, really.

0:20:29 > 0:20:32Anybody that had supported the Confederacy couldn't vote,

0:20:32 > 0:20:35so any law that was here, they didn't have a part of.

0:20:35 > 0:20:38So they were effectively aliens in their own town?

0:20:38 > 0:20:40Yes. This was their home,

0:20:40 > 0:20:42but it wasn't their government.

0:20:51 > 0:20:54The destruction here was typical of many towns in the South,

0:20:54 > 0:20:57but this town has a claim to fame that it would rather forget.

0:20:59 > 0:21:01One group of former Confederate officers,

0:21:01 > 0:21:05bored and fearful of the future now that black men had the vote,

0:21:05 > 0:21:08set up a secret fraternal society.

0:21:08 > 0:21:13They drew on ancient Greek and their Scottish heritage for their name -

0:21:13 > 0:21:16they called it the Ku Klux Klan.

0:21:19 > 0:21:22This is the spot where the Klan was formed.

0:21:22 > 0:21:28- Really?- The Ku Klux Klan... The six young men met here in this office

0:21:28 > 0:21:31and decided they wanted to form an organisation.

0:21:31 > 0:21:34This is a plaque showing that the people of Pulaski

0:21:34 > 0:21:36were proud of the Ku Klux Klan.

0:21:36 > 0:21:39The plaque is turned backwards.

0:21:39 > 0:21:41About probably 20, 25 years ago...

0:21:41 > 0:21:45- Oh, it's got its face to the wall now?- Its face is to the wall.

0:21:45 > 0:21:47The man that owned this building turned it around like that.

0:21:47 > 0:21:50So what's on the other side of the plaque?

0:21:50 > 0:21:52Well, it lists the names of the young men

0:21:52 > 0:21:54that formed the Ku Klux Klan.

0:21:54 > 0:21:58I have a copy of it right here.

0:21:58 > 0:21:59These are the key players.

0:21:59 > 0:22:02Calvin Jones, John B Kennedy...

0:22:02 > 0:22:05Frank O McCord, John C Lester,

0:22:05 > 0:22:08Richard R Reed, James R Crowe.

0:22:08 > 0:22:12They were all Confederate soldiers that had just come home

0:22:12 > 0:22:15and just really didn't have anything better to do

0:22:15 > 0:22:18than to form an organisation just for amusement.

0:22:18 > 0:22:21They played their musical instruments,

0:22:21 > 0:22:24sang songs and went out and serenaded the girls.

0:22:24 > 0:22:26They were out hunting all the pretty girls of Pulaski.

0:22:26 > 0:22:29Is that really all it was? In its first...?

0:22:29 > 0:22:32In its first stages, that's all it was.

0:22:37 > 0:22:42This photograph discovered by Bob is thought to show Frank McCord

0:22:42 > 0:22:44and the rest of the original Klan.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49It was John B Kennedy who apparently suggested that they should

0:22:49 > 0:22:53call themselves a clan as they were all of Scotch-Irish descent.

0:22:54 > 0:22:57Some of them were educated, obviously,

0:22:57 > 0:23:00because they're drawing on Greek - kuklos is a circle,

0:23:00 > 0:23:05and a clan is a family group that shares some kind of blood or a name,

0:23:05 > 0:23:07a surname.

0:23:07 > 0:23:12I think there's an intention there to declare yourself as a group

0:23:12 > 0:23:16that will stand shoulder to shoulder against outsiders.

0:23:22 > 0:23:24Pulaski has another revelation.

0:23:26 > 0:23:30Tucked behind this storefront is a small-scale opera house,

0:23:30 > 0:23:33a good place, it seems, to understand how the Klan moved

0:23:33 > 0:23:38from make-believe to reality, according to author and academic

0:23:38 > 0:23:40Elaine Frantz Parsons.

0:23:42 > 0:23:43How amazing. Look at that.

0:23:45 > 0:23:48For a town this size, it is impressive.

0:23:48 > 0:23:53Created in 1867, almost exactly the same time as the Klan,

0:23:53 > 0:23:56this theatre gives us a fascinating insight

0:23:56 > 0:23:58into what might have influenced them.

0:23:58 > 0:24:00They're trying to figure out who they are,

0:24:00 > 0:24:03and they're really interested, particularly in culture.

0:24:03 > 0:24:06They don't have power any more, they don't have politics,

0:24:06 > 0:24:09but maybe they can keep culture,

0:24:09 > 0:24:11they can create a culture that means something.

0:24:11 > 0:24:14Particularly pretending they were in a different time and place,

0:24:14 > 0:24:18pretending they were, you know, in the world of Sir Walter Scott or...

0:24:18 > 0:24:20I think was very attractive.

0:24:20 > 0:24:22Just a couple of years after the war, they start...

0:24:22 > 0:24:23they embark on this,

0:24:23 > 0:24:26and it's all about theatrical and make-believe.

0:24:26 > 0:24:29Was that informing the Klan as well?

0:24:29 > 0:24:31Was it about the costumes and pretence?

0:24:31 > 0:24:34Yeah, I think that's a really good way to think about it, actually -

0:24:34 > 0:24:38that the world, the real world, wasn't something that

0:24:38 > 0:24:40they necessarily wanted to spend a lot of time in.

0:24:40 > 0:24:45I think that part of what happened is that they realised that this play

0:24:45 > 0:24:50that they were doing could be brought to bear on this competition,

0:24:50 > 0:24:55this problem that they were having with black claims to rights.

0:24:55 > 0:24:58If you were in the 19th century, and you're going to the theatre,

0:24:58 > 0:25:01a lot of the time you were going to a minstrel show.

0:25:01 > 0:25:04And the minstrel show wasn't all about making fun of black people,

0:25:04 > 0:25:07but that was an important part of the minstrel show.

0:25:07 > 0:25:12So part of what the Klan wanted to do was to force black people

0:25:12 > 0:25:15into situations where they looked ludicrous or ridiculous.

0:25:15 > 0:25:19What better way to do that than pretend like you're a monster

0:25:19 > 0:25:23and attack them, and then tell everybody how scared they were

0:25:23 > 0:25:24by this monster?

0:25:24 > 0:25:28What flicks the switch from it being make-believe,

0:25:28 > 0:25:31harmless costumes, music...?

0:25:31 > 0:25:34What flicks the switch and turns it into something sinister?

0:25:34 > 0:25:40We know that Frank McCord was trying to get up a mob.

0:25:40 > 0:25:43During the time that the Klan seemed to have nothing to do with it,

0:25:43 > 0:25:47he is also interested in racial violence.

0:25:49 > 0:25:52The Klan soon moved on from theatricalities and threats -

0:25:52 > 0:25:56it became more violent and better organised.

0:25:56 > 0:25:58At the nearby State Museum in Nashville,

0:25:58 > 0:26:01they have one of the few remaining documents from that time,

0:26:01 > 0:26:04what is, in effect, the Klan's Constitution.

0:26:05 > 0:26:07Oh, it's a tiny little sliver of a thing.

0:26:07 > 0:26:09Yes.

0:26:09 > 0:26:13So this is one of the few remaining copies of what was

0:26:13 > 0:26:18the Constitution of the Ku Klux Klan.

0:26:18 > 0:26:21You'll see at the front, this is the Constitution,

0:26:21 > 0:26:25which they called the prescript, the prescript of the star, star, star,

0:26:25 > 0:26:27which is what they used to stand for Ku Klux Klan.

0:26:27 > 0:26:28I see, right.

0:26:28 > 0:26:33And you have some Shakespearean verse and then down here...

0:26:33 > 0:26:34- Burns.- We have Burns.

0:26:34 > 0:26:39- So you can see you the Scottish influence here.- Absolutely, yes.

0:26:39 > 0:26:41The Burns is about,

0:26:41 > 0:26:45"A certain ghoul is rantin'..." A certain ghost is rantin',

0:26:45 > 0:26:49"drinkin', we'll send him linkin' to your black pit.

0:26:49 > 0:26:52"But faith he'll turn a corner jinkin', and cheat you yet."

0:26:52 > 0:26:55So both are about things macabre.

0:26:55 > 0:26:57Yes, but they're also high culture.

0:26:57 > 0:27:01They're saying, "We aren't just a bunch of, you know, hayseeds."

0:27:01 > 0:27:03It makes you wonder what Robert Burns himself would have thought

0:27:03 > 0:27:06had he known that some of his verse was going to be included in such a document.

0:27:06 > 0:27:09- Right.- You know, the man that writes, "A man's a man for a' that,"

0:27:09 > 0:27:16to then find one of his verses publicising the aspirations of

0:27:16 > 0:27:18a society like the Ku Klux Klan.

0:27:20 > 0:27:23The Klan now had rules and roles.

0:27:23 > 0:27:26It had become a serious organisation,

0:27:26 > 0:27:30an invisible army dedicated to re-establishing the status

0:27:30 > 0:27:31of the Southern whites.

0:27:35 > 0:27:37And this is what the Klan looked like.

0:27:37 > 0:27:40This is an exact replica of one of the original outfits

0:27:40 > 0:27:43they wore in Pulaski.

0:27:43 > 0:27:47You can see how frightening that would be if somebody appeared

0:27:47 > 0:27:49out of the dark dressed like that.

0:27:49 > 0:27:52Absolutely terrifying.

0:27:52 > 0:27:55It's important... These were not uniforms, these were costumes.

0:27:55 > 0:27:58Right, these are expressing a cultural thing.

0:27:58 > 0:28:00They're not expressing that they're...

0:28:00 > 0:28:02It's not an army-like uniform.

0:28:02 > 0:28:05This is a very chaotic mask.

0:28:05 > 0:28:08Maybe this colourful thread up here,

0:28:08 > 0:28:12this red thread, used to put this black eyebrow on -

0:28:12 > 0:28:13that seems like it's deliberate.

0:28:13 > 0:28:16You're meant to see how sloppily made this was.

0:28:16 > 0:28:19Imagine if you opened your front door and that character

0:28:19 > 0:28:22was standing there brandishing a weapon or whatever.

0:28:22 > 0:28:24Yeah, it's very terrifying.

0:28:37 > 0:28:41In Pulaski, the Klan became increasingly popular

0:28:41 > 0:28:43with the white population,

0:28:43 > 0:28:46News spread, especially as Frank McCord's brother

0:28:46 > 0:28:49ran the local newspaper, the Pulaski Citizen.

0:28:51 > 0:28:54The stories printed in the Citizen helped publicise the Klan

0:28:54 > 0:28:58and reassured the white population that something was being done

0:28:58 > 0:29:01to keep the former slaves in their place.

0:29:02 > 0:29:07Many potential black voters received crude and menacing messages,

0:29:07 > 0:29:09like this letter from a Ku Klux ghost,

0:29:09 > 0:29:12ordering them which way to vote.

0:29:14 > 0:29:19Other copycat Klans were soon formed by more bored and bitter Southerners

0:29:19 > 0:29:20in nearby states,

0:29:20 > 0:29:24only now the theatricalities had turned very ugly indeed.

0:29:26 > 0:29:30Groups of white men would come out in the evening

0:29:30 > 0:29:35to a home, a cabin, and find the man of the house there,

0:29:35 > 0:29:39take him from his home and then they would either whip them

0:29:39 > 0:29:42to try to tell them to change their behaviour,

0:29:42 > 0:29:45to punish them for something that they'd apparently done,

0:29:45 > 0:29:47or they would kill that person,

0:29:47 > 0:29:50kill them either by shooting them or by hanging them.

0:29:53 > 0:29:56What happened when the Klan spread was that existing

0:29:56 > 0:30:00white-on-black violence, which was pervasive,

0:30:00 > 0:30:02right, throughout the South already,

0:30:02 > 0:30:06that comes to be called "Klan violence".

0:30:06 > 0:30:10And when it comes to be called Klan violence, it gets worse,

0:30:10 > 0:30:13you know, people have an additional impetus,

0:30:13 > 0:30:15they feel like they're part of a collective project,

0:30:15 > 0:30:18they're doing something for the South.

0:30:18 > 0:30:21They're not just some guy attacking their black neighbour

0:30:21 > 0:30:25who is competing with them for property rights -

0:30:25 > 0:30:27they are now a Klan or a Ku Klux.

0:30:33 > 0:30:36By the late 1860s, a reign of terror existed

0:30:36 > 0:30:39throughout much of the former Confederacy.

0:30:50 > 0:30:53By the time the federal government had brought in legislation

0:30:53 > 0:30:57against the Klan, much of the group's work had already been done.

0:30:57 > 0:31:01Violence had successfully kept most blacks from the polls,

0:31:01 > 0:31:04and the few that had taken up any civic office

0:31:04 > 0:31:07had already been brutally beaten or hung.

0:31:14 > 0:31:17With the black population now successfully terrorised,

0:31:17 > 0:31:21white state governments brought in laws that segregated the races.

0:31:24 > 0:31:27They were mockingly known as Jim Crow laws,

0:31:27 > 0:31:30after a black character in a minstrel show.

0:31:33 > 0:31:36Now, living separate lives,

0:31:36 > 0:31:39the white population of the Southern states relaxed,

0:31:39 > 0:31:42less fearful of those who were "not them".

0:31:43 > 0:31:46Except the fear never really went away.

0:31:55 > 0:31:59This is Atlanta, now the bustling modern business hub

0:31:59 > 0:32:00of the Deep South.

0:32:01 > 0:32:07In the early 1900s, it was also the place where the Klan was reborn.

0:32:07 > 0:32:09We might never have heard from the Klan again

0:32:09 > 0:32:13but for the efforts of one man, Thomas Dixon.

0:32:13 > 0:32:14He wrote this book -

0:32:14 > 0:32:20it published in 1905 and in it he transformed the members of the Klan

0:32:20 > 0:32:22from villains into heroes.

0:32:23 > 0:32:26Dixon was born in North Carolina,

0:32:26 > 0:32:28the son of a Scots minister and plantation owner.

0:32:30 > 0:32:33He went on to become a Southern Baptist minister,

0:32:33 > 0:32:34lawyer and author.

0:32:37 > 0:32:40His novel was called The Clansman, and it was a big seller.

0:32:43 > 0:32:48It was subtitled A Historical Romance Of The Ku Klux Klan,

0:32:48 > 0:32:53and it imagined a future where the racial divide is reversed,

0:32:53 > 0:32:56and it is the white man that is in chains.

0:32:59 > 0:33:02Now, I'm sure if you were to take the time to wade through this tome,

0:33:02 > 0:33:05you would agree that it's pretty dreadful.

0:33:05 > 0:33:10I offer you part of one chapter in which Dixon imagines

0:33:10 > 0:33:15a future for America in which the black man is in charge.

0:33:15 > 0:33:18"As he passed inside the doors of the House of Representatives,

0:33:18 > 0:33:20"the rush of foul air staggered him.

0:33:20 > 0:33:24"The hall was packed with Negroes smoking, chewing, jabbering,

0:33:24 > 0:33:28"pushing, perspiring. The doctor surveyed the hall in dismay.

0:33:28 > 0:33:31"At first, not a white member was visible.

0:33:31 > 0:33:33"The galleries were packed with Negroes,

0:33:33 > 0:33:35"the Speaker presiding was a Negro.

0:33:35 > 0:33:38"The clerk, a Negro. The doorkeepers, Negroes.

0:33:38 > 0:33:41"The little pages, all coal-black Negroes.

0:33:41 > 0:33:46"The remains of Aryan civilisation were represented by 23 white men

0:33:46 > 0:33:49"from the Scotch-Irish hill counties."

0:33:53 > 0:33:57When the book was published, it caused a literary explosion,

0:33:57 > 0:34:01and when it transferred to the stage as a play, it provoked riots,

0:34:01 > 0:34:04not just in this city, but all across America.

0:34:08 > 0:34:11When the play premiered at the Grand Opera House

0:34:11 > 0:34:13here in Atlanta, in October 1905,

0:34:13 > 0:34:17the segregated audience went wild.

0:34:17 > 0:34:19Tom Rice has studied what happened.

0:34:19 > 0:34:23The report stressed that the house lights were kept on,

0:34:23 > 0:34:26the sale of soda bottles was prohibited because they were worried

0:34:26 > 0:34:29they were going to get hurled around the theatre.

0:34:29 > 0:34:33Absolutely, it tapped into this culture of fear,

0:34:33 > 0:34:38these anxieties about racial integration and race relations

0:34:38 > 0:34:41that were really prevalent in Atlanta and across the South

0:34:41 > 0:34:43at this moment.

0:34:43 > 0:34:47Dixon took his Scottish heritage and paraded it in his work.

0:34:47 > 0:34:51Inside the front cover of his novel, the dedication reads...

0:35:01 > 0:35:04And it's not the only reference to a Scottish past.

0:35:04 > 0:35:06Clearly, the title, The Clansman,

0:35:06 > 0:35:09does make a connection with the Scottish roots here.

0:35:09 > 0:35:13We can see it even in the title of the main family here, the Camerons.

0:35:13 > 0:35:16"It was settled by the Scotch folk who came from the north of Ireland

0:35:16 > 0:35:19"in the great migrations which gave America 300,000 people

0:35:19 > 0:35:21"of Covenanter martyr blood,

0:35:21 > 0:35:23"the largest and most important addition to our population."

0:35:23 > 0:35:28So he's really thinking about the make-up of the American South

0:35:28 > 0:35:31and this area, but in turn, also, of the Klan,

0:35:31 > 0:35:34what would create the Ku Klux Klan here.

0:35:34 > 0:35:36"High above his head in the darkness of the cave,

0:35:36 > 0:35:40"he lifted the blazing emblem, the fiery cross of old Scotland's Hill.

0:35:40 > 0:35:42"I quench its flames in the sweetest blood

0:35:42 > 0:35:45"that ever stained the sands of time."

0:35:45 > 0:35:47And here we've got the fiery cross -

0:35:47 > 0:35:49this is not a feature of the original Klan,

0:35:49 > 0:35:51it's created here by Dixon.

0:35:51 > 0:35:57It would become one of the most identifiable symbols of race hatred,

0:35:57 > 0:35:59of the Ku Klux Klan,

0:35:59 > 0:36:03and is still, today, widely identified with the Klan.

0:36:03 > 0:36:06Here he is saying, this is the fiery cross of old Scotland's Hills.

0:36:06 > 0:36:09He is creating a history and a heritage for this here.

0:36:13 > 0:36:17The full impact of Dixon's novel was felt much more widely when,

0:36:17 > 0:36:23ten years after its publication, it was released as a film, touted then,

0:36:23 > 0:36:26and still lauded now, as an epic of its time.

0:36:29 > 0:36:34The Birth Of A Nation, directed by Hollywood superstar DW Griffith,

0:36:34 > 0:36:38let Dixon's work reach a much bigger audience, and it was a massive hit.

0:36:41 > 0:36:44The budget was huge and the direction was ground-breaking,

0:36:44 > 0:36:48but the story was as racist as Dixon's book.

0:36:58 > 0:37:01Charlene Regester is a film academic

0:37:01 > 0:37:03and remembers her first reaction.

0:37:03 > 0:37:06I saw Birth Of A Nation when I was a graduate student.

0:37:06 > 0:37:10Of course, some of the scenes that we saw were very inflammatory.

0:37:10 > 0:37:15They showed us the alleged rape scene,

0:37:15 > 0:37:19the scene where Gus is chasing the woman

0:37:19 > 0:37:23who jumps off the cliff onto the ground and so,

0:37:23 > 0:37:26you know, it was very offensive then,

0:37:26 > 0:37:29and it's probably still equally offensive today.

0:37:29 > 0:37:31It was a racially incisive story,

0:37:31 > 0:37:34and it was about black male predators,

0:37:34 > 0:37:37black male racists, it was about miscegenation,

0:37:37 > 0:37:41and it was about the Ku Klux Klan rescuing the South,

0:37:41 > 0:37:42and white supremacy.

0:37:42 > 0:37:45I think all of the variables together

0:37:45 > 0:37:47is what made it so volatile.

0:37:47 > 0:37:53Did the film work as a PR exercise for the Klan?

0:37:53 > 0:37:57They certainly made them almost appear as though they were heroic.

0:37:57 > 0:37:59And also, at the end of the film,

0:37:59 > 0:38:01they have one of the white characters

0:38:01 > 0:38:03who unveils as a Klan member...

0:38:05 > 0:38:08They're making them look like they are the saviours of the day,

0:38:08 > 0:38:10they saved the South,

0:38:10 > 0:38:15and certainly coincided with the rise of the Ku Klux Klan.

0:38:17 > 0:38:22I think it glamorised the Klan and made it a desirable organisation

0:38:22 > 0:38:26to belong to as a way of restoring order and, I guess,

0:38:26 > 0:38:29of instituting white supremacy nationwide.

0:38:33 > 0:38:37Just outside Atlanta, soaring out of the landscape,

0:38:37 > 0:38:40is a curious monolith called Stone Mountain.

0:38:40 > 0:38:43Carved on its side is a vast memorial

0:38:43 > 0:38:45to the Confederate leaders of the Civil War.

0:38:48 > 0:38:50- TOUR GUIDE:- All right, everybody,

0:38:50 > 0:38:53the mountain is thought to be about 350 million years old.

0:38:53 > 0:38:57Only a small portion of the mountain's actually this old...

0:38:57 > 0:39:01But long before the carving was completed, people came here

0:39:01 > 0:39:04to pay homage to something that happened directly as a result

0:39:04 > 0:39:06of Griffith's film.

0:39:08 > 0:39:11It turns out that that film was a revelation

0:39:11 > 0:39:13for at least one cinemagoer.

0:39:14 > 0:39:17He was a Methodist preacher and his name was William Joseph Simmons,

0:39:17 > 0:39:19and he took all he'd seen and heard

0:39:19 > 0:39:22and he brought it here to this mountaintop.

0:39:22 > 0:39:26He was accompanied that day, the eve of Thanksgiving in 1915,

0:39:26 > 0:39:29with 15 like-minded souls, and they had come for a bizarre ceremony.

0:39:31 > 0:39:35What they wanted to do first of all was to build an altar.

0:39:35 > 0:39:39Once it was built, Simmons placed three things on that altar -

0:39:39 > 0:39:42an American flag, a Bible, and a sword unsheathed.

0:39:45 > 0:39:48Then he set fire to a crudely made wooden cross.

0:39:48 > 0:39:53At that moment, he declared himself to be, get this,

0:39:53 > 0:39:56The Imperial Wizard of the Invisible Empire

0:39:56 > 0:39:59of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

0:39:59 > 0:40:02The KKK was back.

0:40:02 > 0:40:05But this time, the Klan would be different.

0:40:05 > 0:40:06It would be political,

0:40:06 > 0:40:08it would be obsessed with power,

0:40:08 > 0:40:12and, most significantly of all, it would be big,

0:40:12 > 0:40:13very, very big.

0:40:16 > 0:40:20And with changing immigration, the Klan now had a whole new range

0:40:20 > 0:40:24of targets they thought threatened the lives of Southern people.

0:40:24 > 0:40:28The new Klan's focus wasn't just on black people -

0:40:28 > 0:40:32Jews, Catholics and Mexicans also became targets of the organisation.

0:40:38 > 0:40:40To get an insight into this second Klan,

0:40:40 > 0:40:44I've come to the small estate of author William Rawlings,

0:40:44 > 0:40:47just outside the town of Sandersville, in Georgia.

0:40:50 > 0:40:55The Klan's mantra at this time, it's recruiting mantra was...

0:40:55 > 0:40:58Can be summed up as being 100% Americanism.

0:40:58 > 0:41:02Support of the Constitution, just laws, anti-immigration.

0:41:02 > 0:41:06People that joined the Klan during the early 1920s joined not because

0:41:06 > 0:41:09they had some agenda but because the message of the Klan was,

0:41:09 > 0:41:13"We want to do a good thing for America. We want to, perhaps,

0:41:13 > 0:41:15"keep these immigrants out, these Chinese in California,

0:41:15 > 0:41:18"these Mexicans on the border sites."

0:41:18 > 0:41:21But the new Klan was as oppressive as the first.

0:41:21 > 0:41:24Say you live in a town, and the Klan is in the town, and you don't know

0:41:24 > 0:41:26who the members are, but maybe

0:41:26 > 0:41:28your best friend's in there, they may not be.

0:41:28 > 0:41:31You don't know if the policeman on the corner is a member of the Klan.

0:41:31 > 0:41:33Perhaps your minister's a member of the Klan.

0:41:33 > 0:41:35And they liked it that way.

0:41:35 > 0:41:37They could go to a merchant, for example, and say,

0:41:37 > 0:41:40"You know, we're the Klan - we can tell people not to trade with you."

0:41:40 > 0:41:42The merchant would say, "Gee, I better support the Klan."

0:41:42 > 0:41:45You never knew how many people were members of the Klan.

0:41:45 > 0:41:49Once they developed the reputation for not only intimidation

0:41:49 > 0:41:52but action, then frequently all they had to do was simply say,

0:41:52 > 0:41:54"We're watching you."

0:41:54 > 0:41:56And that was all that was needed.

0:41:57 > 0:42:01Klan violence directly affected William Rawlings's family.

0:42:01 > 0:42:04Although they had owned a slave plantation,

0:42:04 > 0:42:07everyone was a potential target.

0:42:07 > 0:42:10My family had an unfortunate experience with the Klan.

0:42:10 > 0:42:13Uncle Charlie was a bit of a philanderer,

0:42:13 > 0:42:14I guess that's the best way to say it.

0:42:14 > 0:42:16Not only did he have his girlfriends,

0:42:16 > 0:42:19his interests also crossed racial lines.

0:42:19 > 0:42:25He sired a number of mixed-race children, which was not exactly

0:42:25 > 0:42:28the socially acceptable thing of the day to do.

0:42:28 > 0:42:31He was, allegedly, according to family history, warned by the Klan,

0:42:31 > 0:42:34and when he ignored them, because he was a very wealthy and powerful man,

0:42:34 > 0:42:37when he ignored them, they simply waylaid him on a country road.

0:42:37 > 0:42:40He had his own chauffeur, a guy named Hal Hooks, a black man.

0:42:40 > 0:42:44They put a tree across the road. When Hal Hooks went to move

0:42:44 > 0:42:48the tree, all of a sudden Klansmen emerged from the forest.

0:42:48 > 0:42:52They told Hooks to stand to one side and they castrated Uncle Charlie.

0:42:54 > 0:42:56- Castrated him?- They castrated him,

0:42:56 > 0:43:00and he lived the remainder of his life without part of his anatomy.

0:43:02 > 0:43:04MUSIC: Chains And Things by BB King

0:43:25 > 0:43:26How big did it get?

0:43:26 > 0:43:27What was the high point?

0:43:27 > 0:43:31For a very brief period of time, 1924, 1925,

0:43:31 > 0:43:34they were one of the most powerful social and political organisations

0:43:34 > 0:43:36in the United States -

0:43:36 > 0:43:40around 5 million members at its peak in 1925.

0:43:40 > 0:43:43You know, it was a tremendous number of people that joined the Klan.

0:43:45 > 0:43:50Perhaps the high point of the Klan was the march in August 1925

0:43:50 > 0:43:55where an estimated... As many as 150,000 robed Klansmen

0:43:55 > 0:43:58marched down Pennsylvania Avenue.

0:44:00 > 0:44:02It's a terribly frightening image,

0:44:02 > 0:44:06to see Pennsylvania Avenue with the Capitol dome in the background,

0:44:06 > 0:44:08and an endless stream of white-robed Klansmen

0:44:08 > 0:44:10marching down the street.

0:44:10 > 0:44:12You know, is this what America has become?

0:44:19 > 0:44:22The Klan of the 1920s failed eventually

0:44:22 > 0:44:25because people figured them out.

0:44:25 > 0:44:27People began to say, you know,

0:44:27 > 0:44:30these people are not really what I want America to be.

0:44:30 > 0:44:33These people are beating, flogging, these people are judge,

0:44:33 > 0:44:35jury and executioner rolled into one.

0:44:35 > 0:44:38This is not the American way. We should reject the Klan.

0:44:41 > 0:44:43The Klan may have been rejected,

0:44:43 > 0:44:46but racial hatred and discrimination remained.

0:44:53 > 0:44:58Here is one of the many places in the South where the law itself

0:44:58 > 0:45:00was used to discriminate.

0:45:00 > 0:45:03This is the former railway terminal building in Macon, Georgia.

0:45:03 > 0:45:06It's a fantastically impressive building, big stone frontage.

0:45:06 > 0:45:09Now, that's the main entrance down there

0:45:09 > 0:45:11with the eagles above it and the pillars.

0:45:11 > 0:45:14Off to one side, though, is a separate entrance,

0:45:14 > 0:45:16and if you look above the door, look what it says...

0:45:16 > 0:45:17"Colored Waiting Room."

0:45:17 > 0:45:21This is a relic, an artefact of the Jim Crow laws,

0:45:21 > 0:45:25which were touted as keeping the white people and the black people

0:45:25 > 0:45:27of America separate but equal.

0:45:34 > 0:45:38The Jim Crow laws reflected the mind-set of those that wanted

0:45:38 > 0:45:40the races to be separate forever.

0:45:40 > 0:45:44They not only mandated the segregation of public transport,

0:45:44 > 0:45:49but public schools, public places and the segregation of restrooms,

0:45:49 > 0:45:51restaurants and even drinking fountains.

0:45:53 > 0:45:57Black and white lived separate but rarely equal lives.

0:46:00 > 0:46:03It took until the 1950s for the Federal Court to declare

0:46:03 > 0:46:07that segregation in state schools was unconstitutional.

0:46:08 > 0:46:11The black population celebrated,

0:46:11 > 0:46:14but the Southern states were having none of it.

0:46:14 > 0:46:17I'm finishing my journey in America's Deep South

0:46:17 > 0:46:22here in Alabama, the heart of the fight against civil rights.

0:46:24 > 0:46:28Montgomery, the state capital, became the epicentre,

0:46:28 > 0:46:31and these steps, the backdrop to much of the rhetoric.

0:46:31 > 0:46:35I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before

0:46:35 > 0:46:39the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now,

0:46:39 > 0:46:41segregation tomorrow,

0:46:41 > 0:46:43and segregation forever.

0:46:46 > 0:46:49Governor George Wallace spoke with the mind-set of those

0:46:49 > 0:46:50that elected him.

0:46:55 > 0:46:58The Klan, too, raised its costumed head again.

0:46:59 > 0:47:01And when around 3,000 people

0:47:01 > 0:47:04attended another rally at Stone Mountain,

0:47:04 > 0:47:09it was clear that the Klan was back in force for the third time,

0:47:09 > 0:47:12and their tactics, again, would be violent.

0:47:14 > 0:47:18The fight for the soul of the South came to its ugliest point

0:47:18 > 0:47:21in the 1960s in the battle between the Civil Rights Movement

0:47:21 > 0:47:23and the Klansmen.

0:47:23 > 0:47:27The Klan's brazen violence and murders eventually pushed

0:47:27 > 0:47:29President Johnson's federal government

0:47:29 > 0:47:33to make a full-scale assault on the Ku Klux Klan.

0:47:33 > 0:47:37Their loyalty is not to the United States of America,

0:47:37 > 0:47:41but instead to a hooded society of bigots.

0:47:41 > 0:47:44So if Klansmen hear my voice today,

0:47:44 > 0:47:47let it be both an appeal

0:47:47 > 0:47:50and a warning

0:47:50 > 0:47:53to get out of the Ku Klux Klan now.

0:47:55 > 0:47:58Leading members of the Klan were prosecuted by the FBI,

0:47:58 > 0:48:02and once again America's most feared hate group appeared to be defeated.

0:48:05 > 0:48:08But, despite the success of the Civil Rights Movement,

0:48:08 > 0:48:11that Southern mind-set didn't go away.

0:48:11 > 0:48:13It's still with us today.

0:48:16 > 0:48:18In the last 50 years, there's been an explosion

0:48:18 > 0:48:21of hate groups in America.

0:48:21 > 0:48:26In 2015, it was estimated that there were 892 hate groups in the US,

0:48:26 > 0:48:31including anti-government militias, neo-Nazis, neo-Confederates

0:48:31 > 0:48:35and 190 separate Ku Klux Klan groups.

0:48:36 > 0:48:40The League of the South is one that is often described as a hate group.

0:48:41 > 0:48:43It advocates rolling back time,

0:48:43 > 0:48:48creating a separate Southern society run by Anglo-Celts.

0:48:48 > 0:48:51I've got an e-mail from Dr Michael Hill,

0:48:51 > 0:48:53leader of The League of the South,

0:48:53 > 0:48:56and he's suggesting meeting at the post office parking lot

0:48:56 > 0:48:58in Killen at 9am.

0:49:01 > 0:49:03I think we have our man.

0:49:07 > 0:49:09Dr Hill? Hello, I'm Neil.

0:49:09 > 0:49:12- It's nice to meet you, sir.- Nice to meet you too, sir.- Good to be here.

0:49:12 > 0:49:17- Good. Is it OK if we put a microphone on you?- Sure.

0:49:17 > 0:49:19I think that's one thing about Southerners, you know,

0:49:19 > 0:49:22we're known for our hospitality.

0:49:22 > 0:49:25But we're also very suspicious of outsiders.

0:49:25 > 0:49:29Now, I'm not suspicious of you folks because I know where you come from,

0:49:29 > 0:49:31and I know that, basically, you're...

0:49:31 > 0:49:34You and I come from the same people.

0:49:34 > 0:49:35You know, so it's different.

0:49:35 > 0:49:39But people come around here from other places, and Southerners

0:49:39 > 0:49:42are not so hospitable until they get to know you.

0:49:42 > 0:49:45If you're a nationalist, what's your nation?

0:49:45 > 0:49:47My nation is my people.

0:49:47 > 0:49:48- Not America?- No.

0:49:48 > 0:49:50America's not my nation.

0:49:50 > 0:49:52If your nation is family, what is your family?

0:49:52 > 0:49:54You mean literally people who are blood?

0:49:54 > 0:49:56Yes, exactly. Blood. Blood kin.

0:49:56 > 0:49:59I mean, that is what a nation is.

0:49:59 > 0:50:02But you know as well as I do that the Scots have always been big

0:50:02 > 0:50:07on fictive kinship. You're sort of in the clan, in the family.

0:50:07 > 0:50:09My family is...

0:50:09 > 0:50:12Southern people

0:50:12 > 0:50:17and people who are related to us by genetics, back in the old country.

0:50:17 > 0:50:19America's not a nation,

0:50:19 > 0:50:22America is a multicultural empire.

0:50:22 > 0:50:23I want nothing to do with it.

0:50:23 > 0:50:25It has nothing for me.

0:50:32 > 0:50:35Is the church shooting in Charleston

0:50:35 > 0:50:39an inevitable consequence of that kind of grievance?

0:50:39 > 0:50:41I think you just had a disturbed young man.

0:50:41 > 0:50:43He doesn't come from nowhere, though?

0:50:43 > 0:50:45- He doesn't pop-out...- No, no.

0:50:45 > 0:50:47He's from a context.

0:50:47 > 0:50:49He is from a context.

0:50:49 > 0:50:54The minute I saw that he had a Confederate flag, I said,

0:50:54 > 0:50:56"Oh, they will take this and use it."

0:50:56 > 0:51:02If the Left wants to use Dylann Roof as the archetype

0:51:02 > 0:51:04of everybody that thinks like I do,

0:51:04 > 0:51:07then we're going to have to have fair play on the other side.

0:51:07 > 0:51:10Every time a black person kills a white person,

0:51:10 > 0:51:14we're going to have to just examine that for, you know...

0:51:14 > 0:51:15inside and out.

0:51:15 > 0:51:21Why it happened, the circumstances, the hatred behind it,

0:51:21 > 0:51:22but it doesn't get done.

0:51:22 > 0:51:26How likely is it that your way of thinking will...

0:51:26 > 0:51:28come to pass?

0:51:28 > 0:51:30I'm a realist about this.

0:51:30 > 0:51:31If you look out in the world

0:51:31 > 0:51:34right now, you see that the other side looks like they're winning.

0:51:34 > 0:51:36It won't win. My side will win,

0:51:36 > 0:51:42mainly because it is the natural way that human beings have always lived.

0:51:42 > 0:51:45This is an anomaly period that we're living in,

0:51:45 > 0:51:47and I can see the end of it.

0:51:47 > 0:51:50The pendulum will swing back to a more normal-type human existence.

0:51:50 > 0:51:55So I think I'm on the right side of not only history

0:51:55 > 0:51:56but human nature.

0:51:56 > 0:51:58It's just so pessimistic and depressing to me

0:51:58 > 0:51:59to think that a people,

0:51:59 > 0:52:01given the opportunity to create a new world,

0:52:01 > 0:52:04- and that was the expression that was in use at the time...- Sure, I know.

0:52:04 > 0:52:08They came out so full of ideas like the pursuit of happiness

0:52:08 > 0:52:11and equality and religious freedom,

0:52:11 > 0:52:15and all of that, and yet they created...

0:52:15 > 0:52:18They were part of a world that became a misery for millions.

0:52:18 > 0:52:20I find that, just, sad.

0:52:20 > 0:52:21I know, but what does it tell you?

0:52:21 > 0:52:24It tells you that there can be no utopias,

0:52:24 > 0:52:27because man is a fallen creature and he's always going to behave

0:52:27 > 0:52:29like a fallen creature.

0:52:30 > 0:52:33He's always going to fuck it up.

0:52:36 > 0:52:37I suppose as someone who has, perhaps,

0:52:37 > 0:52:42a naive hope in the brotherhood of mankind...

0:52:44 > 0:52:46If he's right, then,

0:52:46 > 0:52:48I just feel...

0:52:49 > 0:52:51..we're never going to get anywhere.

0:52:51 > 0:52:56If there was ever an indication that history is alive, then it's here.

0:52:56 > 0:53:03You know, a set of events unfolded here 200-and-odd years ago and the

0:53:03 > 0:53:07consequences of them, the reality of the world that was created then,

0:53:07 > 0:53:11are still 100% here.

0:53:11 > 0:53:14You feel as if we're not going anywhere.

0:53:18 > 0:53:23It's so dispiriting to hear someone using my Scottish ancestry

0:53:23 > 0:53:26in support of views that could give rise to hatred.

0:53:29 > 0:53:32I'm heading back to the state capital to get a second opinion

0:53:32 > 0:53:34on Michael Hill's thinking.

0:53:34 > 0:53:40Mark Potok keeps tabs on hate groups at the Southern Poverty Law Center,

0:53:40 > 0:53:42and he has monitored the development of The League Of The South

0:53:42 > 0:53:44for some time.

0:53:44 > 0:53:48I've heard mention of the potential for a race war.

0:53:48 > 0:53:52Is that just meaningless hyperbole?

0:53:52 > 0:53:58Well, look, I mean a race war is the wet dream of all of these groups.

0:53:58 > 0:54:03They all expect a race war, and many of them fervently hope for it.

0:54:03 > 0:54:06You know, that's absolutely common

0:54:06 > 0:54:08in the Klan and in neo-Nazi groups and so on.

0:54:08 > 0:54:11What's been surprising is to see the evolution of a group

0:54:11 > 0:54:13like The League of the South.

0:54:13 > 0:54:14Mike Hill wrote, a few months ago,

0:54:14 > 0:54:18an incredible essay in which he said, essentially,

0:54:18 > 0:54:21"If black people think they want to have a race war,

0:54:21 > 0:54:25"let me just warn them right now, they're not going to win that war."

0:54:25 > 0:54:28Hill has also talked to his people,

0:54:28 > 0:54:31not merely about how the South is an Anglo-Celtic wonderland,

0:54:31 > 0:54:35and all this kind of thing, and we need to protect our culture,

0:54:35 > 0:54:42but about the need to buy AK-47s and tools to derail trains.

0:54:42 > 0:54:44You know, will this ever really come to a race war?

0:54:44 > 0:54:46No, I very much doubt it.

0:54:46 > 0:54:48Are there people out there who desperately

0:54:48 > 0:54:50would like to see it happen?

0:54:50 > 0:54:52Absolutely. I don't think

0:54:52 > 0:54:54The League of the South is going to become

0:54:54 > 0:54:58a huge mainstream movement, but there are really poisonous strands

0:54:58 > 0:55:00in Southern culture.

0:55:00 > 0:55:02I have lived in many different parts of the country,

0:55:02 > 0:55:04and while many Americans will say,

0:55:04 > 0:55:07"Oh, racism is just as bad in the North, it's sort of more covert,"

0:55:07 > 0:55:10I'm here to say that's not true.

0:55:10 > 0:55:16In the aftermath of the June 2015 Charleston massacre by Dylann Roof,

0:55:16 > 0:55:20there was an enormous backlash against the Confederate battle flag

0:55:20 > 0:55:24because Roof, of course, before carrying out this mass murder,

0:55:24 > 0:55:26had taken many pictures of himself

0:55:26 > 0:55:28displaying the Confederate battle flag.

0:55:28 > 0:55:31And, as a result of that, the flag came under attack,

0:55:31 > 0:55:35the governor of South Carolina ordered the Confederate battle flag

0:55:35 > 0:55:38off the grounds of the state capital.

0:55:38 > 0:55:42And then there was this incredible, very widespread reaction.

0:55:42 > 0:55:44We counted, actually,

0:55:44 > 0:55:47in the six months immediately following the Charleston massacre,

0:55:47 > 0:55:52364 pro-Confederate battle flag rallies.

0:55:53 > 0:55:57Does that rhetoric inform people like Dylann Roof?

0:55:57 > 0:55:59I don't think Dylann Roof probably even knew what

0:55:59 > 0:56:03The League of the South was. But did he connect with the kinds of ideas

0:56:03 > 0:56:06that are at the centre of League of the South? Absolutely.

0:56:08 > 0:56:12One of the greatest writers of the South, William Faulkner,

0:56:12 > 0:56:14wrote something that seems very apt.

0:56:15 > 0:56:17"The past isn't dead and buried -

0:56:17 > 0:56:19"it's not even past."

0:56:20 > 0:56:21And that's the point.

0:56:21 > 0:56:25All the people of the South are living with history,

0:56:25 > 0:56:29coping with the consequences of immigration, greed,

0:56:29 > 0:56:34fear and a sequence of events that have turned this place upside down

0:56:34 > 0:56:35more than once.

0:56:38 > 0:56:41I come to the end of my journey at the church where this story began.

0:56:45 > 0:56:48How on earth do the people who suffer the attacks here

0:56:48 > 0:56:52cope with the horror of the racism that has stalked the South

0:56:52 > 0:56:54since the settlers first arrived here?

0:56:55 > 0:56:58Just with the thought of this interview itself...

0:57:00 > 0:57:02I'm teary eyed,

0:57:02 > 0:57:05to think that this is what brought us together.

0:57:05 > 0:57:07But, yet,

0:57:07 > 0:57:13I'm grateful because it gives me an opportunity to say to my brothers

0:57:13 > 0:57:15and sisters around the world,

0:57:15 > 0:57:17thank you for caring.

0:57:17 > 0:57:20Thank you for praying for us,

0:57:20 > 0:57:22remembering us,

0:57:22 > 0:57:24and not forgetting about us.

0:57:24 > 0:57:27Is there anything that ought to be forgotten,

0:57:27 > 0:57:32are there any ideas that need to be put in the past

0:57:32 > 0:57:34and not taken into the future?

0:57:34 > 0:57:38I think that each of us, we are a sum total of our past,

0:57:38 > 0:57:41our present, and our hope for the future.

0:57:41 > 0:57:44And so, no, I wouldn't want to disregard the past,

0:57:44 > 0:57:46I'd want to learn from it,

0:57:46 > 0:57:48I'd want to grow as a result of it.

0:57:48 > 0:57:53And we must embrace our individuality and celebrate it,

0:57:53 > 0:57:56and not be negative as a result of it.

0:57:56 > 0:57:59I believe that from this...

0:58:00 > 0:58:05..can lead a path of race relations that is positive,

0:58:05 > 0:58:09a path that will lead us to a place of reconciliation,

0:58:09 > 0:58:13of healing, and a place of a healthier society.

0:58:16 > 0:58:17Oh, hey, come on.