:00:09. > :00:16.400 years ago William Shakespeare lived and died here in what was one
:00:16. > :00:23.of the grandest houses in Stratford-upon-Avon. Tonight we are
:00:23. > :00:27.going to try to imagine what life was like for the world's greatest
:00:27. > :00:37.playwright. From the home of William Shakespeare, welcome to
:00:37. > :00:48.
:00:48. > :00:56.CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Hello and welcome to National
:00:56. > :00:58.Treasures Live. So far on National Treasures Live we've visited a
:00:58. > :01:01.medieval castle, a 19th century warship, and tonight we're
:01:01. > :01:03.celebrating our greatest cultural treasure. The man I think might be
:01:03. > :01:06.the most important person we've ever produced, William Shakespeare.
:01:06. > :01:09.Tonight, we're looking at what's left of the house he lived in when
:01:10. > :01:14.he died and where he's thought to have written some of the world's
:01:14. > :01:20.best known plays. They are doing such amazing work here. Let's have
:01:20. > :01:24.a proper look at where we are on this dig. This was called New Place
:01:24. > :01:29.and Shakespeare was already becoming famous and wealthy when he
:01:29. > :01:38.bought it. We'll be getting our hands dirty tonight and Sian is
:01:38. > :01:41.particularly excited. I am. I've been on a few dig s. I personally
:01:41. > :01:47.cannot wait to get down there and find something. The best thing
:01:47. > :01:50.about this dig is that anyone and everyone is getting involved, like
:01:50. > :01:56.ten-year-old Ellis. He's been so inspired by this dig he's convinced
:01:56. > :01:58.his mum and dad to let him dig up their own back yard. We'll show you
:01:58. > :02:03.results later. Also tonight I will be doing my
:02:03. > :02:08.best to explain to Michael Douglas why his home town is so
:02:08. > :02:11.unbelievably special. And Ruby Wax looks at the reality of life in
:02:11. > :02:15.Victorian asylums. Also tonight with most of the UK about to enjoy
:02:15. > :02:19.a bank holiday weekend we would like you to tell us which places
:02:19. > :02:25.you would consider to be national treasures that perhaps other people
:02:25. > :02:29.could visit this weekend. Lets us know your historical gems by e-mail
:02:29. > :02:34.- nationaltreasures@bbc.co.uk, or follow us on Twitter at
:02:34. > :02:43.@bbctreasures and we'll share them later. William Shakespeare lived
:02:43. > :02:47.here from 1597 so some of his best play could have been written here.
:02:47. > :02:50.That's if you believe they were written by Shakespeare. There's a
:02:50. > :02:57.controversial film coming out later this year that William Shakespeare
:02:57. > :03:03.might not have been all he seems. Hollywood has always revered the
:03:03. > :03:12.Bard. This autumn a new film wants that Cho change. What if I told you
:03:12. > :03:17.Shakespeare never wrote a single word? In October the film Anonymous
:03:17. > :03:22.will claim the Earl of Oxford is the real author. The courtier of
:03:22. > :03:28.Queen Elizabeth was arrestcratic, highly educated and well travelled.
:03:28. > :03:33.Shakespeare wasn't, so critics denounce him as a fraud. William
:03:33. > :03:39.Shakespeare was an opportunist and entrepreneur. He made a living from
:03:39. > :03:44.the writing of others and held the pour. Nonsense say the purists.
:03:44. > :03:47.at a loss frankly why anyone would question such matters. So who is
:03:47. > :03:53.right? William Shakespeare, the man from stat Ford, was born in this
:03:53. > :03:56.house in 1564.,000 son of a glove maker rose to become such a
:03:56. > :04:01.celebrated writer is one of the greatest mysteries of British
:04:01. > :04:04.history. Underneath the Bard's birthplace were priceless
:04:04. > :04:10.Shakespearean artefacts but what evidence links the man to the
:04:10. > :04:15.material? Paul I'm blown away. I don't think I've ever seen a
:04:15. > :04:20.collection of documents this valuable altogether. We are looking
:04:20. > :04:26.at some of the crown jewels of Shakespeare studies. This is the
:04:26. > :04:32.parish register from his baptism in 1564. His name is in Latin. And
:04:32. > :04:38.this is the first time his name appears in print. This is his great
:04:38. > :04:43.poem, which was Venus and adorn is. That's when his name -- Adonis.
:04:44. > :04:48.That's when his name breaks as a great poet. This is the first
:04:48. > :04:55.collection of Shakespeare's work. It is one of only a few surviving
:04:55. > :04:59.copies. It was published in 15 23. It is the first time they've been
:04:59. > :05:04.gathered together. You get this amazing tribute, to the memory of
:05:04. > :05:09.my beloved, the author, Mr William Shakespeare. How available is this
:05:09. > :05:19.first edition? If it weren't for this book, we wouldn't have half of
:05:19. > :05:21.
:05:21. > :05:26.Shakespeare's plays. No Macbeth, Anthony 57 Cleopatra or Coreolanus.
:05:26. > :05:32.So where did the idea come from that he wasn't responsible for this
:05:32. > :05:37.work? It was snobbery. This was a country lad doing good and we
:05:37. > :05:46.should rejoice in that. Critics still claim he was taking credit
:05:46. > :05:50.for work he didn't write. In June, some of the world's leading
:05:50. > :05:57.authorities on Shakespeare joined film makers to debate his
:05:57. > :06:01.authorship. Record after record tells us we are dealing with a
:06:01. > :06:07.rather unpleasant, not particularly well educated, but an opportunistic
:06:07. > :06:13.businessman and not the writer of many great works. The genius of
:06:13. > :06:17.William Shakespeare is untraceable. Others believe his genius is God
:06:17. > :06:21.given. The work is so utterly extraordinary it does defy
:06:21. > :06:24.comprehension that any one man could have written so much of such
:06:24. > :06:27.extraordinary quality, but some people are very good at these
:06:28. > :06:35.things and some people aren't. William Shakespeare was. Get over
:06:35. > :06:44.it. Even so, some things are still puzzling me. Both alike in dignity.
:06:44. > :06:48.In fair Verona where we lay our scene... No diaries in
:06:48. > :06:56.Shakespeare's own hand have come to like. Only six signatures survive.
:06:56. > :07:02.Three of those are on his own will. He famously left his wife, Anne, he
:07:02. > :07:09.second best bed. Amazingly there is no mention of poems and plays. Why
:07:09. > :07:12.wasn't this great body of literature included in his will?
:07:12. > :07:17.Holy Trinity Church Stratford. In the church is a bust of him with
:07:17. > :07:22.quill and writing pair. So why does the only contemporary sketch depict
:07:22. > :07:26.him holding a bag of grain it? Implies he was a tradesman, not an
:07:26. > :07:30.author. The debate will no doubt rage on, questioning Shakespeare's
:07:30. > :07:35.link to the poems and plays that made his name. Perhaps we'll leave
:07:35. > :07:41.the final word to those inscribed on his grave. It says blessed be
:07:41. > :07:46.the man that spares these stones and cursed be he that moves my
:07:46. > :07:53.bones. This seems to be saying, let it be. In that way, perhaps even in
:07:53. > :08:00.death someone is still watching the Bard's back.
:08:00. > :08:07.I was maizeed to learn some of the heavyweights that are so-called
:08:07. > :08:13.anti-Stratfordians. They include Sigmund Freud, Mark Twain, Orson
:08:13. > :08:19.Wells. Did he write those plays? Yes. Yes. Yes. What do you all
:08:19. > :08:26.thing? Yes. No. One no. I think they are pretty unanimous hyper.
:08:26. > :08:28.You say that. There was a lone voice saying no. Most people of
:08:28. > :08:32.course are going to believe Shakespeare wrote those plays. One
:08:32. > :08:38.of the reasons for the lack of doubt is that lack of documentation
:08:38. > :08:41.about his personal life. No notes, journals or diaries. Being here
:08:41. > :08:48.tells us more about the man. There are foundations here to part of the
:08:49. > :08:54.house. Where we are standing is the courtyard. With us is Paul. And
:08:54. > :08:58.also Will Mitchell. Tell us why the courtyard is so important. Why are
:08:58. > :09:01.we here? Because it is an area which has been very undisturbed.
:09:01. > :09:08.Everywhere we dig here we are finding new information. What would
:09:08. > :09:15.you like to find? The Shakespeare Birthplace Trust is passionate
:09:15. > :09:21.about finding out about Shakespeare. There was a dig in the 1660s of
:09:21. > :09:27.somebody should played here as a child, who remembered the windows
:09:27. > :09:31.being engraved with witty sayings, and he said he was blessed with
:09:31. > :09:37.some of the achievements. Shall we look down here? We are finding new
:09:37. > :09:43.things all the time. There's animal bone for example. We've got a real
:09:43. > :09:47.mixture of animal bones. Pigs. We haven't got an idea of what people
:09:47. > :09:52.were eating at the time. Eaten and thrown away. There is an oyster
:09:52. > :09:58.shell here. And there are pieces here, a pot. What does this tell
:09:58. > :10:02.us? A pot from around the time we are looking for, mid 1500s. It
:10:02. > :10:07.tells us they were using pots from the local area. A key fob. That's a
:10:07. > :10:12.bit later on, but still interesting. And here, really exciting, a dice.
:10:12. > :10:16.Yes, and this really tells us what people were doing in the pastimes,
:10:16. > :10:22.playing games. It may have been made on the site here. Paul, what
:10:22. > :10:27.do you think what we've discovered so far totals us about the man?
:10:27. > :10:32.has shown us about New Place that we didn't know, the size of the
:10:32. > :10:35.house. He was a man of considerable means. He invested in land in
:10:36. > :10:41.Stratford. I hope we find things that confirm that wealthy status we
:10:41. > :10:46.know he had. There won't be any manuscripts here? Possibly not.
:10:46. > :10:52.They wouldn't have lasted and they were kept by the. I think you want
:10:52. > :10:56.a trowel Paul. For this glass. I will get scraping. Keen to get
:10:56. > :11:01.stuck Some of the things we've seen have been found by enthusiastic
:11:01. > :11:04.amateurs. That's the really exciting thing about this dig.
:11:04. > :11:09.Margaret, you found the key fob. was fantastic find. That's the
:11:09. > :11:13.great thing, people like me and Margaret, with no real training,
:11:13. > :11:17.can sift and look through the mud and see if there are things the
:11:17. > :11:24.archaeologists might have missed. The most infamous sifter of all in
:11:24. > :11:29.these parts is young Ellis. You've been sifting for quite a while.
:11:29. > :11:35.How long? Since I came, one-and-a- half years ago. You come once a
:11:35. > :11:40.week, once a month? Twice a week. You must love it here. Yes. It is
:11:40. > :11:46.like home. Like a home from home. The thing about you is you've done
:11:46. > :11:54.a bit of addition elsewhere. You got the bug and went elsewhere.
:11:54. > :11:59.Whereabouts? At home. In the back garden. What does your dad think
:11:59. > :12:05.about this this? Very encouraging. He's kept it tidy and we've all
:12:05. > :12:10.enjoyed it. A bit of a mess? really. He's very professional.
:12:10. > :12:14.are an extraordinary young man. Are these your finds? What are your
:12:14. > :12:20.favourites? This bit of medieval pottery. That's the kind of thing
:12:20. > :12:26.they would have found here, the same period? Yes. A lovely bit of
:12:26. > :12:32.colour. This is a gun handle. It would have been in a lady's handbag.
:12:32. > :12:41.For protection. A pistol Yes. Very exciting. That was in your garden?
:12:41. > :12:46.Yes. A tiny gun. What else? A bit of chimney, some other part, a
:12:46. > :12:52.floor tile. Medieval pottery. This is my first find. Are you going to
:12:52. > :12:59.become an archaeologist? I think so. Have you found stuff here as well?
:13:00. > :13:06.Yes, I found a bone button with a brass cover and a pig's jaw.
:13:07. > :13:11.are an incredible young man and you are also a concert-level guitarist.
:13:11. > :13:13.Extraordinary. If you've dug your garden at home, let us know. Send
:13:13. > :13:16.us picture. Stratford is famous around the
:13:16. > :13:20.world as the home of some of the greatest literature ever written.
:13:20. > :13:26.What I love about this country is there are so many other places
:13:26. > :13:32.across it that have shaped the history of us and the entire world.
:13:32. > :13:42.I've tried to explain that to Doug Doug doufplgt we went to his home
:13:42. > :13:44.
:13:44. > :13:48.We are now lost. Don't talk to me about GPS. We'll go over there a
:13:48. > :13:52.bit. You hit the kerb. Recognise this? I do recognise it, you have
:13:52. > :13:56.brought me back to Preston. I thought we were going to tour the
:13:56. > :13:59.whole of Britain. You brought me back it my hometown much I have
:13:59. > :14:04.been here before. Ha is the point. History happens in all of our back
:14:04. > :14:07.yards, not just in Palaces and Kaszles. You don't think it's
:14:07. > :14:12.interesting, because you grew up here. Prston changed the world
:14:12. > :14:15.forever. It's effects are being felt until this day. You are going
:14:15. > :14:19.to talk about the industrial revolution, aren't you? Yes, I am.
:14:19. > :14:23.I remember doing the industrial revolution at school and being
:14:23. > :14:27.totally bored. I find it hard to believe he's going to make me
:14:28. > :14:32.really interested in this. Look at him back there, with his map, you
:14:32. > :14:37.know, doing his work homework. If he can make Preston exciting, you
:14:37. > :14:42.know, get me interested and engadgeed in, it I'll be delighted
:14:42. > :14:47.basically. It would give me a reason to come home. This is the
:14:47. > :14:52.heart of industrial Preston. That is the car park I used to park in
:14:52. > :14:57.when I worked at the airport. Little did you know you were
:14:57. > :15:01.walking in the footsteps of heros. Down one of these streets is the
:15:01. > :15:06.home of one of the most important British engineers, inventors,
:15:06. > :15:12.businessman of all-time. A man who changed the world. I wonder if
:15:12. > :15:17.someone will say that about me one day? I doubt it. A bit harsh! What
:15:17. > :15:26.did this guy do? This guy, Michael, is one of the most important
:15:26. > :15:29.humanes who ever lived. Inside this house a man called Richard
:15:29. > :15:36.ArkWright produced a spin that allowed you to spin more cotton
:15:36. > :15:41.than before. Previously, clothes were made by craftsman in cottage
:15:41. > :15:47.industries. Mass production was invented in this house. It shows
:15:47. > :15:57.big things can happen in modest surroundings, lesson for all of us.
:15:57. > :16:02.
:16:02. > :16:06.Do you know how old he was when he He made that invention and made
:16:06. > :16:11.mass production possible, that led to these mills. 3,000 of these
:16:11. > :16:16.mills in Lancashire alone. What happened? Why is it derelict and is
:16:16. > :16:22.not producing stuff? The rest of the world also built factories.
:16:22. > :16:26.They do it cheaper. The factories exist, but not in Britain. If I was
:16:26. > :16:32.born 200 years ago I would have ended up working in that place like
:16:32. > :16:35.that. Not sure would you have knead through infancy, to be honest.
:16:35. > :16:40.do you I get the feeling you wouldn't have worked in a place
:16:40. > :16:49.like that. We knead here, with your driving. Industrial revolution went
:16:49. > :16:53.from strength to strength, not just about textiles. This is a temple
:16:53. > :17:00.dedicated to railway engines. Before these trains came along,
:17:00. > :17:04.most people would live and die within 30 miles of where they were
:17:04. > :17:10.born. What relation does that bear on the industrial revolution.
:17:10. > :17:16.could sell over the world? Why did we invent these cotton mills and
:17:16. > :17:23.machines and trains? One thing led to another. As one invention laid
:17:23. > :17:27.into another. We discovered how to lay railway tracks let as's put a
:17:27. > :17:31.steam engine on it and see if that works. Best way to learn about
:17:32. > :17:38.history is experience it for yourself. I always wanted to go on
:17:38. > :17:46.a steam engine. The idea you can live miles away begins because of
:17:46. > :17:50.these engines. It must have been revolutionary? It is. America, Asia,
:17:50. > :18:00.Africa, Europe covered in British Rail ways. Built, planned and
:18:00. > :18:05.
:18:05. > :18:11.engineered by the Brits. Changed I had no idea that Preston would be
:18:11. > :18:15.so interesting. Everywhere has a story. There is not a town or city
:18:15. > :18:20.in this country that something extraordinary didn't happen. Where
:18:20. > :18:25.are we going next? Who knows? Who knows where they will be going.
:18:25. > :18:29.More of Dan and Michael's magical mystery tour next week. I don't
:18:29. > :18:34.want to sound like Michael Douglas. A lot of people on twitter has been
:18:34. > :18:39.asking us as well, there is not a huge amount of house left, is
:18:39. > :18:42.there? The house has gone. If you want to imagine what it is like 400
:18:42. > :18:46.years ago, with television trickery we can show you. This is what New
:18:47. > :18:50.Place might have looked like at the end of the 16th century. Look at
:18:50. > :18:54.that. A substantial house. It had about 20 rooms. It was significant.
:18:54. > :18:58.It was called Great House by the people of Stratford. Shakespeare
:18:58. > :19:02.would have passed this house every sengele day, as a young boy, on his
:19:03. > :19:08.way to school. To come back here as a man of means, actor and a
:19:08. > :19:16.playwright, to say, I will buy this house now, it must have had added
:19:16. > :19:20.status. What happened, it's tragic it's not here any more. He passed
:19:20. > :19:24.it to his daughter and she passed it to her daughter. That is where
:19:24. > :19:29.the Shakespeare line ends. It changed hands a few times.
:19:29. > :19:33.Renovation was done. A couple bought it who had other property.
:19:33. > :19:38.They decide to demolish it because they didn't want to pay the tax.
:19:38. > :19:44.That is why we are looking at what we are looking at. A lot of people
:19:44. > :19:49.have been asking, is there more digging to be done? This would have
:19:49. > :19:53.been Shakespeare's living quarters, servant waters -- quarters out the
:19:53. > :19:59.front. There is a free in the way of the dig. There is a mulberry
:19:59. > :20:07.tree. There is a tree preservation order on that. No more digging for
:20:07. > :20:17.now. The good stuff will be found. Of course it is. We - as the series
:20:17. > :20:21.
:20:21. > :20:25.has been asking we have been asking famous people to explore what have
:20:25. > :20:33.interested them. Ruby Wax looks at the horrifying treatments through
:20:33. > :20:38.illness. Dreaded by many, Britain's 1th century asylums provides a
:20:38. > :20:47.unique window on how Britain housed and treated the mentally ill. They
:20:47. > :20:54.were big business. The whole thing was a gotic horror. Was there some
:20:54. > :20:58.method to this madness? From Victorian times, through to the
:20:58. > :21:05.20th Century, disturbing treatments like draining blood, inducing
:21:05. > :21:08.vomiting and shock therapy was common. Why did doctors turn to
:21:08. > :21:13.using such extreme measures? Basically, because they were
:21:13. > :21:18.clueless. I mean, they were faced with this massive task of dealing
:21:18. > :21:22.with lunacy, in the 19th century they developed things like machine
:21:22. > :21:28.that is would push them into cold water until they drowned. The idea,
:21:28. > :21:32.if you reached reached a point of a near day experience it could alter
:21:32. > :21:37.their consciousness. Did they not gate clue when people were dying?
:21:37. > :21:43.Most of the treatments were useless or harmful. That was a Kew to try
:21:43. > :21:51.something something extreme. Benjamin Rush believed lunacy was
:21:52. > :21:57.to do with flux tuewaitions in blood flow to the brain. The box
:21:57. > :22:03.altered the temperature around the head and the blood flow. Patients
:22:03. > :22:07.were strapped in it for hours on end. This was one of the nice guys.
:22:07. > :22:11.You may think the doctors were saddists but they were using
:22:11. > :22:20.methods available in the day. They were doing the best work they could.
:22:20. > :22:26.To me the therapies were grotesque. In Bristol this doctor is the
:22:26. > :22:34.curator of the mew sim that shows some of the alternative therapies.
:22:35. > :22:38.There were extreme methods of brain surgery to treat the illness.
:22:38. > :22:42.would go up here and you would hammer it in. Was the patient
:22:42. > :22:46.unconscious when this was happening? I think the patient
:22:46. > :22:50.wasn't unconscious she was, actually, you know around. I don't
:22:50. > :22:55.think they gave any injection to relieve the pain at that stage.
:22:55. > :23:05.What is this? This is to hold the skull in place. It is held in one
:23:05. > :23:06.
:23:06. > :23:15.position. Right. Is this the first machine that sends electric volts
:23:15. > :23:19.through your head. It's now plugged in. It goes on both sides. First,
:23:19. > :23:25.ECG in this country was given in 1939. Not given to a man or a woman,
:23:25. > :23:30.it was given to a sheep. I don't know what to say. Did the sheep
:23:30. > :23:35.feel better? Exactly. OK, what were the earliest retraipbts? --
:23:35. > :23:39.restraints? These restraints were using chains. They were really very
:23:39. > :23:44.horrible. I assumed the chains didn't work. Who came up with this
:23:45. > :23:49.little number? Is this the latest in straitjackets? A kinder way.
:23:49. > :23:55.Kinder? You put this on because the patient is aggressive. I think the
:23:55. > :24:00.danger is he can harm himself. look like you did this a few times.
:24:00. > :24:08.Do you think you could untie me? course. That would be great. Thank
:24:08. > :24:17.you. The number of insane were growing faster than asylums could
:24:17. > :24:22.be built. By 1900 there were 74,000 patients in asylums across the
:24:22. > :24:26.country. During the First World War they reached bursting point as many
:24:26. > :24:31.were turned into hospitals. A third of those coming back from the
:24:31. > :24:36.trenches were called mental cases. What treatments were used for shell
:24:36. > :24:44.shock? Some doctors would pull the tongue out and paut shock on it.
:24:44. > :24:49.The whole tradition of attacking the body when you are faced with a
:24:49. > :24:54.a mental health problem. Treatment were coming in and the idea that
:24:54. > :24:58.maybe the environments that people were in were the source of peoples'
:24:58. > :25:02.distress and mental health problems in the military. They could see
:25:02. > :25:08.some other factor - Something else was going on. The treatments seem
:25:08. > :25:13.inhumane. At the time they were thought to be the best methods of
:25:13. > :25:18.helping patient. I wonder what people will think of the methods we
:25:18. > :25:23.use today. Will they admire the sophistication or shake their heads
:25:23. > :25:26.at the horror of how primitive it is. I will let you know 100 years.
:25:26. > :25:32.Is there a gift shop here? Extraordinary. Another familiar
:25:32. > :25:37.face next week. We asked to you name some of your favourite
:25:37. > :25:47.national treasures. We wanted to hear what you would be visiting
:25:47. > :25:50.over the Bank Holiday weekend. Martha suggests King Loch Castle.
:25:51. > :26:00.The first house with electricity in Scotland. Beautiful island.
:26:00. > :26:10.Lorraine, she says, "I love TintonAbbey". One of my favourite
:26:10. > :26:10.
:26:10. > :26:15.parts. Here is one., "the lost Gardens of Helgan in Cornwall. A
:26:15. > :26:19.secret garden and truly magical". Nice to go there. One of the
:26:19. > :26:22.surprising things about this dig, you found a message from an
:26:22. > :26:27.archeologist in the past, didn't you? There has been interest in
:26:27. > :26:34.this site over the past, the Victorians took an interest. They
:26:34. > :26:41.excavated part of the site much they found some of the foundations
:26:41. > :26:47.of the house. He built these walls around it and put slabs on top.
:26:47. > :26:53.These are Victorians. We lifted the slabs. This was left on top.
:26:53. > :26:57.left a present. A clay pipe. 17th century. Not smoked by the
:26:57. > :27:06.Victorians. It was found on site and placed back on top. Must have
:27:06. > :27:13.left it for us. Take it back before I do damage to it. We thought we
:27:13. > :27:17.would do a time capsule. It has been filled by suggestions from you
:27:17. > :27:22.on twitter and the people here. In here are the complete works of
:27:22. > :27:27.Shakespeare. Photographs of Stratford people and a local
:27:27. > :27:37.newspaper. Can I put some of the things in. Here we go. We have the
:27:37. > :27:37.
:27:37. > :27:43.final copy of the News of the World. That was Tina. We have a Will and
:27:43. > :27:53.Katemug that was suggested by Linda, who is here. Thank you, Linda. Care
:27:53. > :27:53.
:27:53. > :27:57.wfl that. Harry Potter. Shakespeare of the modern-day. We have Ellis to
:27:57. > :28:05.dig it into the ground. Time you put something back, you have been
:28:05. > :28:11.taking things out for years. Let us give him a huge round of applause.
:28:11. > :28:21.Well done. He will stay there all night planting that. If you want to
:28:21. > :28:25.
:28:25. > :28:35.plant your own, details on our Thank you to all our helpers
:28:35. > :28:35.
:28:35. > :28:42.tonight. Next week we are in the New Forest when we'll explain how