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0:00:49 > 0:00:52The German Army of the Kaiser

0:00:52 > 0:00:55consisted of 800,000 conscripts.

0:00:55 > 0:00:58There were hardly any professional soldiers.

0:01:00 > 0:01:03Amongst these 800,000 men,

0:01:03 > 0:01:05they had10,000 who were called

0:01:05 > 0:01:07One Year's Volunteers.

0:01:08 > 0:01:10That means mostly students

0:01:10 > 0:01:15and men with higher certification of education.

0:01:17 > 0:01:20The medical students had to serve

0:01:20 > 0:01:25only for half a year with the Infantry.

0:01:25 > 0:01:27And then, after they were qualified,

0:01:27 > 0:01:30thenext half year as doctors,

0:01:30 > 0:01:32as Medical Officers.

0:01:32 > 0:01:35In February, 1914,

0:01:35 > 0:01:41I, as amedicalstudent, received my call uppapers

0:01:41 > 0:01:45ordering me to report for military duty

0:01:45 > 0:01:49in a clean state and free of vermin

0:01:49 > 0:01:54at anInfantryRegiment in Freiburg in Baden.

0:01:54 > 0:01:57The 1st of April, I joined up

0:01:57 > 0:02:03and after approximately four months military training,

0:02:03 > 0:02:08I was a full soldier in my regiment.

0:02:09 > 0:02:13We had no idea of any impending war.

0:02:13 > 0:02:19We had no idea that a danger of war exists.

0:02:20 > 0:02:25We served in our blueand red uniforms,

0:02:25 > 0:02:28but, on the 1st of August, 1914,

0:02:29 > 0:02:32mobilisation orders came.

0:02:32 > 0:02:35We hadto put on our field grey uniforms

0:02:35 > 0:02:39and, at 2 o'clock in the morning,

0:02:40 > 0:02:43of the 4th August, 1914,

0:02:43 > 0:02:48wemarchedout of Fribourg with torches.

0:02:48 > 0:02:51Silent, without any music,

0:02:51 > 0:02:55without any singing. No enthusiasm.

0:02:55 > 0:03:00We were reallypacked down by our luggage

0:03:00 > 0:03:04and our kit which weighed, per man, 75 pounds.

0:03:06 > 0:03:08We crossed the Rhine

0:03:08 > 0:03:13over a verywobbly pontoon bridge into Elders.

0:03:13 > 0:03:15We marched, mostly at night,

0:03:15 > 0:03:18untilwe approached a huge forest

0:03:18 > 0:03:24in front of the Elders town of Mulhouse,

0:03:24 > 0:03:26or, as we called it, Muhlhausen.

0:03:28 > 0:03:32The focus of attention of the wholeworld

0:03:32 > 0:03:36was centred almost exclusively

0:03:36 > 0:03:40to the northern most part of the fighting line,

0:03:40 > 0:03:45namely to that part of theGerman Army

0:03:45 > 0:03:48which invaded Belgium.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52Nobody had any idea outside France

0:03:52 > 0:03:55and outside the French GeneralStaff,

0:03:55 > 0:03:58that the whole French Army, the First French Army,

0:03:58 > 0:04:02was poised tojump into Alsace,

0:04:03 > 0:04:07to cross theRhineand to go into Southern Germany.

0:04:10 > 0:04:12We came to this big forest.

0:04:14 > 0:04:17Miles and miles of nothingbut forest

0:04:17 > 0:04:19with dense under wood.

0:04:19 > 0:04:21And there, a whole division,

0:04:21 > 0:04:24the 29thGerman Division, was hidden.

0:04:26 > 0:04:31A solitary French aeroplane came, didn't see a thing,

0:04:31 > 0:04:32and returned.

0:04:33 > 0:04:36The French Army, in the meantime,

0:04:36 > 0:04:39had entered Mulhouse,

0:04:39 > 0:04:40or Muhlhausen,

0:04:40 > 0:04:44and there they celebrated victory.

0:04:46 > 0:04:49They brought with them colouredposters

0:04:49 > 0:04:54which proclaimed that victory would be there...

0:04:54 > 0:04:57La gloire, laliberation d'Alsace...

0:04:57 > 0:05:01Which, by the way, was completelyGerman speaking

0:05:01 > 0:05:06and Germaninhabited part of the world.

0:05:06 > 0:05:10And they celebrated and got drunk.

0:05:11 > 0:05:14They didn't even care to put outsentries

0:05:14 > 0:05:17at approaches to thetown,

0:05:17 > 0:05:21and at 4 o'clock in the morning on the 10th of August,

0:05:21 > 0:05:27we left our hideout, we marched in single line

0:05:27 > 0:05:30throughvery high cornfields

0:05:30 > 0:05:34and withoutsaying a word, in complete silence,

0:05:34 > 0:05:37we entered the town of Mulhouse.

0:05:37 > 0:05:41There we found the French soldierspartly drunk,

0:05:41 > 0:05:43partly asleep,

0:05:43 > 0:05:46andonly comparatively small resistance

0:05:46 > 0:05:49was put up by Alpine troops.

0:05:50 > 0:05:54The French retreated in sucha haste

0:05:54 > 0:05:58that we actually had to run after them.

0:05:58 > 0:06:03At first, we found heaps of Frencharmy blankets

0:06:03 > 0:06:06which the soldiers had thrown away.

0:06:06 > 0:06:09Then we found French greatcoats.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12Then we found French knapsacks.

0:06:13 > 0:06:16Then we found French belts withammunition pouches

0:06:16 > 0:06:18full of cartridges.

0:06:18 > 0:06:21And finally, in barns, hidden,

0:06:21 > 0:06:24orsitting just on the roadside,

0:06:24 > 0:06:27the exhausted French soldiers,

0:06:27 > 0:06:29whowaited only to be taken prisoner.

0:06:30 > 0:06:34The French 7th Army Corps retreated

0:06:34 > 0:06:39till they came really under the muzzles of the big guns

0:06:39 > 0:06:41of the French quarters of Belfort.

0:06:42 > 0:06:46We took the French soldiers with us

0:06:46 > 0:06:49and then we came to aplacecalled Altkirch.

0:06:52 > 0:06:56Altkirch saw some action before,

0:06:56 > 0:06:59inso far as the French Army Corps

0:06:59 > 0:07:03attacked two German squadrons of Light Cavalry

0:07:03 > 0:07:05whichheld them up for ten hours.

0:07:07 > 0:07:14In Altkirch, we were stationed, we were billeted in a factory.

0:07:14 > 0:07:16We were fast asleep

0:07:16 > 0:07:21when, all of a sudden, a terrificinfantry fire started.

0:07:21 > 0:07:25We rushed out and we firedin the direction

0:07:25 > 0:07:27where the bullets came from.

0:07:27 > 0:07:32The reason for this firing was that the German sentry

0:07:32 > 0:07:37challengeda light, and as there was no reply,

0:07:37 > 0:07:39he fired at that light.

0:07:39 > 0:07:43The bullet hit a wall next to another German sentry,

0:07:43 > 0:07:47whothought that he was firedon, andhe fired back.

0:07:47 > 0:07:50And so two German companies

0:07:50 > 0:07:53fired at each other like mad.

0:07:53 > 0:07:59And the whole reason was that themidwife attending

0:07:59 > 0:08:02the birth of a baby moved about witha lamp in her hand.

0:08:04 > 0:08:08We were then entrained, 48 men incattle trucks,

0:08:08 > 0:08:1048 men or six horses

0:08:10 > 0:08:12was ridden on these cattle trucks,

0:08:12 > 0:08:16and we were taken to Strasbourg.

0:08:16 > 0:08:17And from there, into Lorraine,

0:08:17 > 0:08:21whereanother French Army had attacked.

0:08:21 > 0:08:24There we had to join battle,

0:08:24 > 0:08:27and here we counter attacked

0:08:27 > 0:08:29and had terrific losses.

0:08:31 > 0:08:38My battalion was on a field whichincluded a gravel pit,

0:08:38 > 0:08:42and in this gravel pit, we took our wounded

0:08:42 > 0:08:45and, later on, our dead comrades.

0:08:45 > 0:08:47And when night came,

0:08:47 > 0:08:52we retreated to the Rhine-Main canal

0:08:52 > 0:08:54under heavy artillery fire.

0:08:56 > 0:09:01Again, the French retreated, and again, we followed them.

0:09:01 > 0:09:03And on the field of battle,

0:09:03 > 0:09:06I approached a wounded Frenchsoldier,

0:09:06 > 0:09:09who spoke to me in fluentGerman

0:09:09 > 0:09:11asking for a drop of water.

0:09:11 > 0:09:13He was a student in Berlin.

0:09:15 > 0:09:16We entered the village,

0:09:16 > 0:09:19the companyof approximately 200 men,

0:09:19 > 0:09:23and wewere just taking off our knapsacks

0:09:24 > 0:09:27and queuing up for the soup kitchen

0:09:27 > 0:09:29who wanted to give us some food,

0:09:29 > 0:09:32when a terrific firing started.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35From all sides we were fired at.

0:09:35 > 0:09:37The cook and his mate were killed.

0:09:37 > 0:09:43Quite a number of our soldiers werewounded and killed too.

0:09:43 > 0:09:47We stormed into the houses where thefiring came from,

0:09:47 > 0:09:50but allwe could find

0:09:50 > 0:09:55weresomeinnocentlooking peasants in blueblouses.

0:09:55 > 0:09:57But when we searched the houses,

0:09:57 > 0:10:01we found infantry rifles stillhot from firing.

0:10:02 > 0:10:08The patrol of 20 men heard the firing in the village,

0:10:08 > 0:10:11turned around, and all ofsudden theysaw

0:10:11 > 0:10:15approximately 30 cyclists coming

0:10:15 > 0:10:19out of the village and cyclinglike mad

0:10:19 > 0:10:21towards the next village.

0:10:21 > 0:10:25They stopped themand they found that each of them

0:10:25 > 0:10:27had an infantry rifle with them.

0:10:27 > 0:10:30Of course, they took them prisoners, andI saw it myself.

0:10:30 > 0:10:33They were marched off to be courtmartialled

0:10:33 > 0:10:35and most probably shot.

0:10:38 > 0:10:41After this incident with Franc-tireurs,

0:10:41 > 0:10:43as we used tocall them,

0:10:43 > 0:10:47the German high command gave orders to take hostages.

0:10:49 > 0:10:53We usually took the Mayor and the high ups

0:10:53 > 0:10:56in his village orlittle town

0:10:56 > 0:10:58and kept them

0:10:58 > 0:11:01until theField Security Police took over.

0:11:03 > 0:11:07We marched on and on and on.

0:11:07 > 0:11:10We never dared to take off our boots

0:11:11 > 0:11:14because our feet were so swollen

0:11:14 > 0:11:17that we didn't think it wouldbe possible

0:11:17 > 0:11:19to put them on again.

0:11:20 > 0:11:24And, in a small village,

0:11:24 > 0:11:30the Mayor came and asked our Company Commanders

0:11:30 > 0:11:34not to allowus to cut off the hands of the children.

0:11:35 > 0:11:38These were atrocity stories

0:11:38 > 0:11:40whichthey heard about the German Army.

0:11:42 > 0:11:44At first, we laughed about it,

0:11:44 > 0:11:50but, when we heard of other propaganda things said

0:11:50 > 0:11:53against theGerman Army, we became angry.

0:11:54 > 0:11:57There was, under the British blockade,

0:11:57 > 0:12:01not an ounce of fat in Germany.

0:12:01 > 0:12:05And so the order came thatevery horse

0:12:05 > 0:12:12and every animal had to beused for fat.

0:12:12 > 0:12:15Every ounce of fat had to be takenout

0:12:15 > 0:12:18and to be used mostly for soap.

0:12:20 > 0:12:23Immediately, when British,

0:12:23 > 0:12:27especiallyBritish papers, heard about it,

0:12:27 > 0:12:33they made out of these abattoirsor knackers yards,

0:12:33 > 0:12:36factories which extractedthe fat

0:12:36 > 0:12:41from fallen British and French soldiers

0:12:41 > 0:12:46and madeoutof this propaganda which we hated.

0:12:49 > 0:12:52We only went on and on and

0:12:52 > 0:12:56thenwe were entrained again in cattletrucks

0:12:56 > 0:13:00to bebroughtagainst the fortress of Antwerp.

0:13:00 > 0:13:03Meanwhile, Antwerp had fallen,

0:13:03 > 0:13:08and we were marched through Valenciennes

0:13:08 > 0:13:11and Douai into the coaldistrict

0:13:11 > 0:13:15of the Pas des Calais.

0:13:15 > 0:13:21There we dug at first small trenches, slit trenches,

0:13:21 > 0:13:23each man for himself.

0:13:23 > 0:13:25Then we connected the trenches

0:13:25 > 0:13:29and then the whole trenchsystem

0:13:29 > 0:13:32from the North Sea totheAlps was formed.

0:13:35 > 0:13:40In front of our trenches near LaBassee

0:13:40 > 0:13:43was a brickworks.

0:13:43 > 0:13:47The Frenchused to put their bricks together

0:13:47 > 0:13:51ashigh as houses, and on top of these houses,

0:13:51 > 0:13:54there were machine guns

0:13:54 > 0:13:57whichprevented us from going near them.

0:13:59 > 0:14:03One day, we got the order toattackthese brickworks

0:14:03 > 0:14:04and to take them.

0:14:07 > 0:14:10The only possible means to take them

0:14:10 > 0:14:15was by a surprise attack in fulldaylight,

0:14:15 > 0:14:18and we got orders to do so.

0:14:20 > 0:14:23We cut zigzag lines

0:14:23 > 0:14:26through our barbed wire entanglements

0:14:26 > 0:14:30and, at noon, we went over the top.

0:14:31 > 0:14:34We ran approximately a hundred yards

0:14:34 > 0:14:36when we came under machinegun fire

0:14:36 > 0:14:40whichwasso terrific that the losses were

0:14:40 > 0:14:45so staggering and we gotorders tolie down

0:14:45 > 0:14:47and to seek shelter.

0:14:47 > 0:14:49Nobody dared to lift his headbecause,

0:14:49 > 0:14:53the very momentthe machine gunners saw anymovement,

0:14:53 > 0:14:55they let fly.

0:14:55 > 0:14:59And then the Britishartillery opened up.

0:14:59 > 0:15:02And the corpses and thehats

0:15:02 > 0:15:05and the armsand the legs flew about

0:15:05 > 0:15:07and we were cut to pieces.

0:15:09 > 0:15:12All of a sudden, theenemyfire ceased.

0:15:14 > 0:15:18Complete silence came over the battlefield,

0:15:18 > 0:15:22and oneof the chaps in my shell holeaskedme,

0:15:22 > 0:15:25"I wonder what they're up to?"

0:15:25 > 0:15:28Another one answered, "Perhaps they are getting tea."

0:15:28 > 0:15:30The third one says,

0:15:30 > 0:15:33"Don't be a fool. Doyou see what I see?"

0:15:35 > 0:15:38And we looked over the brim of our shell hole,

0:15:38 > 0:15:41and there, between the brick heaps,

0:15:41 > 0:15:44out there came a British soldier

0:15:45 > 0:15:48with a Red Cross flag which he waved,

0:15:48 > 0:15:51and he was followed by stretcher bearers

0:15:51 > 0:15:56who came slowly towards us and collected our wounded.

0:15:56 > 0:16:01We got up, still completely dumb from fear of death,

0:16:01 > 0:16:05and helped them to bring our wounded

0:16:05 > 0:16:07into our trenches.

0:16:07 > 0:16:12One hour later, a British Army doctor came out,

0:16:12 > 0:16:15again with a Red Cross flag,

0:16:15 > 0:16:19and he arranged a truce for twohours

0:16:19 > 0:16:24to let uscollect our dead ones.

0:16:25 > 0:16:30I never forgot this generosity of the British,

0:16:30 > 0:16:32which, I must say,

0:16:33 > 0:16:37took place shortly before Christmas, 1914.

0:16:40 > 0:16:44Near La Bassee, in the slit trenches, we lay,

0:16:44 > 0:16:50and, in front of us, wehad the French trenches,

0:16:50 > 0:16:52dug in, dug out...

0:16:52 > 0:16:55Wereally didn't know anymore what was

0:16:55 > 0:16:58the first trench, the front trench

0:16:58 > 0:17:01and what were the reserve trenches.

0:17:01 > 0:17:05One day, we got orders tostorma French position.

0:17:07 > 0:17:14We got in and my comrades fell rightand left of me.

0:17:14 > 0:17:20But then I wasconfronted by a French Corporal.

0:17:20 > 0:17:23He with his bayonet at the ready,

0:17:23 > 0:17:25and I with my bayonet at the ready.

0:17:26 > 0:17:31For a moment, I felt the fearof death,

0:17:31 > 0:17:35And, in a fraction ofa second,

0:17:35 > 0:17:38I realised that he wasaftermy life

0:17:38 > 0:17:41exactly as I was after his.

0:17:42 > 0:17:44I was quicker than he was.

0:17:45 > 0:17:48I tossed his rifle away

0:17:48 > 0:17:52and I ran mybayonet through his chest.

0:17:52 > 0:17:58He fell,put his hand on the place wereI hadhit him,

0:17:58 > 0:18:00and then I thrust again.

0:18:00 > 0:18:04Blood came out of his mouth and he died.

0:18:07 > 0:18:09I felt physically ill.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11I nearly vomited.

0:18:11 > 0:18:14My knees were shaking

0:18:14 > 0:18:18and I was, quitefrankly, ashamed of myself.

0:18:20 > 0:18:24My comrades - I was a corporal there, then -

0:18:24 > 0:18:29were absolutelyundisturbed by what had happened.

0:18:29 > 0:18:33One of them boasted that he hadkilled a poilu

0:18:33 > 0:18:36with the butt ofhis rifle.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39Another one had strangleda captain,

0:18:39 > 0:18:40a French captain.

0:18:40 > 0:18:46A third one had hit somebody overthe head with his spade.

0:18:46 > 0:18:49And they were ordinary men like me.

0:18:49 > 0:18:52One of them was a tram conductor,

0:18:52 > 0:18:55another one acommercial traveller,

0:18:55 > 0:18:59two were students, the rest were farm workers.

0:18:59 > 0:19:02Ordinary people who never would havethought

0:19:02 > 0:19:04to do any harm to anyone.

0:19:04 > 0:19:10How did it come about that they wereso cruel?

0:19:11 > 0:19:15I remembered then that we weretold

0:19:15 > 0:19:20that the good soldier kills without thinking

0:19:20 > 0:19:23of his adversary as ahuman being.

0:19:24 > 0:19:29The very moment he sees in hima fellow man,

0:19:29 > 0:19:31he is not a good soldier anymore.

0:19:32 > 0:19:36But I had, in front of me,

0:19:36 > 0:19:40the...deadman,

0:19:40 > 0:19:43the dead French soldier...

0:19:43 > 0:19:47and how I would have liked himto have raised his hand.

0:19:47 > 0:19:49I would have shaken his hand

0:19:49 > 0:19:52and wewould have been the best of friends.

0:19:52 > 0:19:58Because he was nothing, like me, but a poor boy

0:19:58 > 0:20:00who had to fight,

0:20:00 > 0:20:04who had to go in with the most cruelweapons

0:20:04 > 0:20:06against a man

0:20:06 > 0:20:09who hadnothing against him personally,

0:20:09 > 0:20:14who only wore the uniform of another nation,

0:20:14 > 0:20:16who spoke another language,

0:20:16 > 0:20:19but aman who had a father and mother

0:20:19 > 0:20:21and a family, perhaps,

0:20:21 > 0:20:24and so I felt.

0:20:24 > 0:20:29I woke up at night sometimes drenched in sweat

0:20:29 > 0:20:36because I saw the eyes of my fallenadversary,

0:20:36 > 0:20:38of the enemy,

0:20:38 > 0:20:41and I tried to convince myself,

0:20:41 > 0:20:43whatwould have happened to me

0:20:43 > 0:20:46if I wouldn't have been quicker thanhe?

0:20:46 > 0:20:49What wouldhave happened to me

0:20:49 > 0:20:52if I wouldn't have thrust my bayonet first into his belly?

0:20:54 > 0:21:01What was it that we soldiers

0:21:01 > 0:21:02stabbed each other,

0:21:02 > 0:21:04strangled each other,

0:21:04 > 0:21:08went for each other like mad dogs?

0:21:08 > 0:21:10What was it that we,

0:21:10 > 0:21:14who hadnothing against them personally,

0:21:14 > 0:21:18fought with them to the very end and death?

0:21:19 > 0:21:22We were civilised people, after all.

0:21:22 > 0:21:26But I felt that the culturewe boasted

0:21:26 > 0:21:31so much about is only a very thinlacquer

0:21:31 > 0:21:35which chipped off thevery moment

0:21:35 > 0:21:40we come in contact with cruel things like real war.

0:21:40 > 0:21:44To fire at each other from adistance,

0:21:44 > 0:21:48to drop bombs, is somethingimpersonal.

0:21:48 > 0:21:52But to see each other's white in the eyes

0:21:52 > 0:21:55and then to run with a bayonet against a man,

0:21:55 > 0:21:59itwas against my conception

0:21:59 > 0:22:02and against my inner feeling.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05- Anything else? - That was beautiful. Cut.

0:22:10 > 0:22:16In June, 1915, I was wounded.

0:22:16 > 0:22:19A shell exploded behind me

0:22:19 > 0:22:22andI caught several shell splinters,

0:22:22 > 0:22:25one of them which penetrated my pelvis.

0:22:27 > 0:22:30I was brought back toa field hospital

0:22:30 > 0:22:34and later to a base hospital in St Quentin,

0:22:34 > 0:22:39where they found that I was otherwise all right,

0:22:39 > 0:22:41apart from bruises and so on.

0:22:41 > 0:22:46And then, in a few weeks time, I was ready for duty.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50I was just expecting my commission

0:22:50 > 0:22:53as an Infantry Officer,

0:22:53 > 0:22:57whichwe called in those days anexpressticket to eternity,

0:22:58 > 0:23:03because the life of a Subaltern in the trenches

0:23:03 > 0:23:08was notcounted by months,

0:23:08 > 0:23:10but by days or weeks.

0:23:11 > 0:23:14They found out that I was a medical student

0:23:14 > 0:23:19and so I was transferred to theMedical Corps

0:23:19 > 0:23:23and was commissioned with therank

0:23:23 > 0:23:25of a Second Lieutenant,

0:23:25 > 0:23:27or as you would call it in the British Army,

0:23:27 > 0:23:29a Probationer Surgeon.

0:23:29 > 0:23:31As such...

0:23:31 > 0:23:33- May I just stop? - Yes. Please cut.

0:23:42 > 0:23:44For seven days and nights,

0:23:44 > 0:23:47we were under incessant bombardment.

0:23:48 > 0:23:52Day and night,the shells, heavy and light ones,

0:23:52 > 0:23:54came upon us,

0:23:54 > 0:23:57our dugouts crumbled.

0:23:57 > 0:24:02They fell upon us

0:24:02 > 0:24:06and we had to digourselves and our comrades out.

0:24:06 > 0:24:09Sometimes we found them suffocated,

0:24:09 > 0:24:11sometimes smashed to pulp.

0:24:13 > 0:24:16Seven days and seven nights.

0:24:16 > 0:24:22Soldiers in the bunkers becamehysterical.

0:24:23 > 0:24:25They wanted to run out

0:24:25 > 0:24:28and fights developed to keep them

0:24:28 > 0:24:33in the comparative safety of our deep bunkers.

0:24:34 > 0:24:36Even the rats became hysterical.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39They came into our flimsy shelters

0:24:39 > 0:24:44to seek refuge from this terrific artillery fire.

0:24:45 > 0:24:48Seven days and seven nights.

0:24:48 > 0:24:52We hadnothing to eat, nothing to drink,

0:24:52 > 0:24:55but constantly fire,

0:24:55 > 0:24:57shell after shell burst upon us.

0:24:59 > 0:25:03And then the British Army went over the top.

0:25:04 > 0:25:11The very moment we felt that theBritish artillery fire

0:25:11 > 0:25:15wasdirected against the reservepositions,

0:25:15 > 0:25:19German machine gunners

0:25:19 > 0:25:24crawledout of the bunkers, reddened eyes,

0:25:24 > 0:25:29sunken eyes, dirty, full of blood

0:25:29 > 0:25:31from the blood of their fallen comrades,

0:25:31 > 0:25:35and opened up terrific fire.

0:25:36 > 0:25:39The British Army had horrible loses,

0:25:39 > 0:25:43and they'd estimated that theylost within

0:25:43 > 0:25:47the first ten minutes of theBattleof the Somme.

0:25:47 > 0:25:4914,000 dead.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53Our regiment lost approximately

0:25:53 > 0:25:5675% of its men,

0:25:56 > 0:26:00and, after ten days in the front line, wewere withdrawn.

0:26:10 > 0:26:15Ten minutes before the French attackwas due,

0:26:15 > 0:26:19the German batteries opened up

0:26:19 > 0:26:21and the fire wasso tremendous

0:26:21 > 0:26:25that hardly any Frenchsoldiers went over the top.

0:26:28 > 0:26:32After a while, the Germanssentpatrols

0:26:32 > 0:26:36to find out whathappened.

0:26:36 > 0:26:42Andthere theyfoundthe French trenches deserted,

0:26:42 > 0:26:47except for the wounded and the dead.

0:26:48 > 0:26:50Full of dead.

0:26:50 > 0:26:53And the French were supposed tohavelost,

0:26:53 > 0:26:55in one day,

0:26:55 > 0:26:58100,000 casualties.

0:27:04 > 0:27:07A week or so before the beginning

0:27:08 > 0:27:11of the German offensive in Flanders,

0:27:11 > 0:27:14in April, 1918,

0:27:14 > 0:27:20I was attached to Infantry Assault Battalion,

0:27:20 > 0:27:24and my orders were to establish

0:27:24 > 0:27:28and advance a first aid post.

0:27:30 > 0:27:35We went over the top against Portuguese divisions.

0:27:37 > 0:27:39They didn't offer much resistance,

0:27:40 > 0:27:42and we took themprisoner,

0:27:42 > 0:27:45or they ran away faster than we could even run.

0:27:48 > 0:27:50Near Merville,

0:27:50 > 0:27:56I came to a Britishfield hospital,

0:27:56 > 0:27:59completely intact,

0:27:59 > 0:28:04and there Isaw, forthe first time since years,

0:28:04 > 0:28:09theabundance of material,

0:28:09 > 0:28:13of equipmentwhich we didn't know anymore about.

0:28:14 > 0:28:21Amongst other things, I found casesfull of surgical gloves.

0:28:23 > 0:28:28The German doctors had to operatewith their bare fingers.

0:28:29 > 0:28:33They had to go into the purulent

0:28:33 > 0:28:36andcontaminated wounds with their barehands,

0:28:36 > 0:28:40and the only thing to wash ourhands with

0:28:40 > 0:28:42was a kind of sand soap.

0:28:43 > 0:28:47Two parts of sand, one part of soap.

0:28:48 > 0:28:53And here I found actually thousands of pairs

0:28:53 > 0:28:54of rubber gloves.

0:28:56 > 0:29:02I went out to catch some ammunitioncarts,

0:29:02 > 0:29:05which came back empty from the firing line

0:29:05 > 0:29:09and to hand them these cases

0:29:09 > 0:29:11to bring them back to therear.

0:29:13 > 0:29:16I returned in a few minutes time,

0:29:16 > 0:29:21and there I found a whole batch of German soldiers

0:29:21 > 0:29:24playingwith these rubber gloves.

0:29:24 > 0:29:28They blew air into them and let them fly as balloons.

0:29:30 > 0:29:33On the barrack square of Freiburg,

0:29:33 > 0:29:36where I wasan Officer Cadet,

0:29:36 > 0:29:39I learnt toshoutcommands,

0:29:39 > 0:29:43and this came togood use for me

0:29:43 > 0:29:45because I ordered them out,

0:29:45 > 0:29:48and so I saved the rubber gloves.

0:29:49 > 0:29:52Amongst other things, I found bandages.

0:29:52 > 0:29:54Real bandages.

0:29:56 > 0:29:58You know that the German Army

0:29:58 > 0:30:02and the German doctors didn'thave any bandages?

0:30:02 > 0:30:06What we used was scrap paper

0:30:06 > 0:30:09to windround the wounds of the soldiers.

0:30:09 > 0:30:11And one can imagine howlong that lasted.

0:30:13 > 0:30:17They just dissolved as quickly as many of the greatcoats

0:30:17 > 0:30:19our soldiers had to wear,

0:30:20 > 0:30:23whichweremade out of paper fabric.

0:30:23 > 0:30:26We didn't have any cottonwool anymore.

0:30:26 > 0:30:30The only thing we had was a kindof cellulose

0:30:30 > 0:30:33and this we put onthe wounds

0:30:33 > 0:30:36because we didn't have evengauze.

0:30:36 > 0:30:38Or this little bit of gauze we had

0:30:38 > 0:30:41which was soaked inbloodand puss

0:30:41 > 0:30:44had to be washed again andagain,

0:30:44 > 0:30:46sterilised again and again

0:30:46 > 0:30:50until it freely fell to pieces.

0:30:50 > 0:30:55Such was the shortage at the end of the war.

0:30:55 > 0:30:59At the beginning of the war, the German Army,

0:30:59 > 0:31:01like the British Army,

0:31:01 > 0:31:05didn't haveany anti-tetanus antitoxin.

0:31:05 > 0:31:08And when we marched throughthe villages,

0:31:08 > 0:31:12we found, infront of field hospitals,

0:31:12 > 0:31:16thick layers ofstraw, knee deep,

0:31:16 > 0:31:18and we hadto go through that.

0:31:18 > 0:31:24And theselayers of straw were used

0:31:24 > 0:31:29to reducethe vibration caused bythepassingof guns

0:31:29 > 0:31:32and heavy ammunition carts.

0:31:32 > 0:31:35These vibrations in turn brought about

0:31:35 > 0:31:42the dreadfulconvulsions of the soldiersinfected with tetanus.

0:31:42 > 0:31:45And mind you, statistic showed

0:31:45 > 0:31:49that 1% of everysoldier in France,

0:31:49 > 0:31:51in thoseearly daysof the war,

0:31:51 > 0:31:56wasinfectedwith tetanus and died of tetanus.

0:31:58 > 0:32:00- All right? - Remarkably good.

0:32:00 > 0:32:01Good.