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0:00:04 > 0:00:08Britain has some of the finest gardens anywhere in the world.

0:00:08 > 0:00:11For me, it's about getting in amongst the wonderful plants

0:00:11 > 0:00:14that flourish in this country and sharing the passion

0:00:14 > 0:00:15of the people who tend them.

0:00:17 > 0:00:20However, there is another way to enjoy a garden.

0:00:24 > 0:00:27And that's to get up above it.

0:00:30 > 0:00:33I love ballooning because you get to see the world below

0:00:33 > 0:00:35in a whole new light.

0:00:35 > 0:00:38From up here, you get a real sense of how the garden

0:00:38 > 0:00:42sits in the landscape, how the terrain and the climate

0:00:42 > 0:00:46have shaped it, and I want you to share that experience with me.

0:01:16 > 0:01:19Today we're in North Wales, in Snowdonia,

0:01:19 > 0:01:24and from up here, it magnifies the grandeur of the landscape.

0:01:30 > 0:01:33Wherever I look, the countryside changes.

0:01:33 > 0:01:36In one direction, the Wales coastline,

0:01:36 > 0:01:41in another, forested hillsides and craggy mountains.

0:01:44 > 0:01:48Snowdonia sprawls across the Welsh county of Gwynedd,

0:01:48 > 0:01:51at the far north-western reaches of Wales.

0:01:52 > 0:01:56Snowdonia covers 800 square miles

0:01:56 > 0:02:02and this region is home to some truly inspirational gardens.

0:02:06 > 0:02:11And I'm visiting two today. The first is two gardens in one -

0:02:11 > 0:02:14a formal upper garden

0:02:14 > 0:02:16and its wild lower dell.

0:02:19 > 0:02:22And another, once a lookout tower protecting the land approaches

0:02:22 > 0:02:26to Conwy Castle, which has evolved over centuries of garden design.

0:02:28 > 0:02:29Many reasons to visit a garden -

0:02:29 > 0:02:32some of them plants, some of them memories.

0:02:32 > 0:02:34A garden is an aide-memoire to life.

0:02:36 > 0:02:40This is a spectacular landscape with precious gems like these

0:02:40 > 0:02:42studding its valleys.

0:02:47 > 0:02:52Snowdonia is an ancient landscape, formed nearly 500 million

0:02:52 > 0:02:56years ago, the result of volcanic eruptions and glacial erosion.

0:02:58 > 0:03:01Today, it's a dramatic landscape, rocky and damp,

0:03:01 > 0:03:05not ideal for gardens. But when you fall in love with a place,

0:03:05 > 0:03:09Snowdonia's little foibles won't stop

0:03:09 > 0:03:11a determined gardener.

0:03:11 > 0:03:15So, first to Bodnant, a national treasure nestled in a national park.

0:03:17 > 0:03:19When you're up here in a balloon,

0:03:19 > 0:03:22you can get a real sense of what Bodnant's about.

0:03:22 > 0:03:26That beautiful house, sitting above the garden.

0:03:26 > 0:03:31Those formal terraces bleeding down into that beautiful dell.

0:03:31 > 0:03:36I have never ever seen the width of that river. It's magnificent.

0:03:38 > 0:03:42Those trees just caress the garden

0:03:42 > 0:03:44and unite the garden with the landscape.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50And I can't wait to get down there.

0:04:00 > 0:04:02Bodnant covers 80 acres of valley

0:04:02 > 0:04:04leading down to the River Conway.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07It's a tricky site for any garden.

0:04:07 > 0:04:09It slopes west towards the river,

0:04:09 > 0:04:13with the formal gardens laid out on level ground around the house,

0:04:13 > 0:04:16and a cascade of planting which leads to the dell at the bottom.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25The stream flowing here winds its way out to the river,

0:04:25 > 0:04:26about a mile away.

0:04:30 > 0:04:33I've been visiting Bodnant since I was a teenager.

0:04:34 > 0:04:36And I remember the first time I came here,

0:04:36 > 0:04:41I was blown away by the trees, the shrubs, the names, the history.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44I thought I knew something when I left college.

0:04:44 > 0:04:48I'd never been to a spectacular valley garden before,

0:04:48 > 0:04:51and I came here and that illusion was blown away,

0:04:51 > 0:04:55cos there was plants I'd never seen, there was names I'd never seen,

0:04:55 > 0:04:57there was compositions I'd never seen.

0:04:57 > 0:05:01It was just absolutely amazing.

0:05:04 > 0:05:06Once a grand, private estate,

0:05:06 > 0:05:10the gardens were bequeathed to the National Trust in 1949.

0:05:13 > 0:05:16One of the gardeners is Fiona Braithwaite.

0:05:22 > 0:05:25So, Fiona, have you always been a gardener?

0:05:25 > 0:05:26No.

0:05:26 > 0:05:30When I was a growing up, I used to mow my dad's lawn

0:05:30 > 0:05:32and do a bit of weeding,

0:05:32 > 0:05:37but it wasn't until later on in life that I began to eat, sleep

0:05:37 > 0:05:41and drink gardening. Cos I'd worked for the Department for Work

0:05:41 > 0:05:47and Pensions for a number of years, and I decided I needed a change.

0:05:47 > 0:05:51At that particular time, Bodnant was taking on their first

0:05:51 > 0:05:56National Trust careership trainee, and I thought, "This is it for me."

0:05:56 > 0:05:58It was a three year course.

0:05:58 > 0:06:03Then I applied for the gardening position here and I couldn't believe

0:06:03 > 0:06:07that I'd got it, and I've been here now for nearly seven years.

0:06:07 > 0:06:09And what's that like?

0:06:09 > 0:06:11What's it mean to you, personally?

0:06:11 > 0:06:14Oh, it's like the icing on the cake, you know.

0:06:14 > 0:06:17Bodnant Garden is amazing.

0:06:17 > 0:06:23Everything combined together gives it a whole festival of plants,

0:06:23 > 0:06:26colour, texture for the eyes.

0:06:26 > 0:06:30It runs seamlessly from the terraces, which are very formal,

0:06:30 > 0:06:35right the way down towards the dell, which is 120 feet down,

0:06:35 > 0:06:37got the River Hiraethlyn running through it,

0:06:37 > 0:06:43beautiful champion trees, fantastic herbaceous, trees, shrubs, bulbs.

0:06:43 > 0:06:46You name it, we've got it.

0:06:46 > 0:06:49And that's my favourite part of the garden down there.

0:06:49 > 0:06:50Oh, I love it!

0:06:50 > 0:06:54It's the people, as well, that you work with and the people that

0:06:54 > 0:06:58you see every day and engage with, it is an amazing garden.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01And what's more amazing than anything else,

0:07:01 > 0:07:05- in my opinion, is that view of Snowdonia.- Beautiful.

0:07:05 > 0:07:07- Shall we go and have a closer look? - Yeah, let's.

0:07:09 > 0:07:12Fiona, just look at that!

0:07:12 > 0:07:16Oh, it's an amazing view, isn't it, Christine?

0:07:17 > 0:07:20That eternal view is what enticed Henry Pochin to

0:07:20 > 0:07:23retire here in 1874.

0:07:23 > 0:07:26The Victorians' love of dramatic landscape

0:07:26 > 0:07:29was at its peak in the late 19th century,

0:07:29 > 0:07:31when Pochin bought Bodnant,

0:07:31 > 0:07:35an 80-acre site with a stream running through a deep-sided valley.

0:07:37 > 0:07:41Pochin had made his money as an industrial chemist, inventing

0:07:41 > 0:07:45the process that turned soap from brown to a more palatable white.

0:07:46 > 0:07:50The wealth he amassed allowed him to indulge his passion for plants,

0:07:50 > 0:07:53which, together with his imagination, were the ingredients

0:07:53 > 0:07:56needed to transform the original house and the modest garden at

0:07:56 > 0:08:03Bodnant into a world-class garden, wrested from the crags of Snowdonia.

0:08:06 > 0:08:10After only ten years at Bodnant, Pochin died, leaving the garden

0:08:10 > 0:08:12to his daughter, Laura.

0:08:12 > 0:08:15Along with her husband, the first Lord Aberconway,

0:08:15 > 0:08:17she took up the reins.

0:08:17 > 0:08:21In 1901, they handed the garden that they'd fallen in love with,

0:08:21 > 0:08:22on to their son.

0:08:24 > 0:08:27The wealth amassed by Pochin and his son-in-law funded

0:08:27 > 0:08:31the Aberconways' plant collecting habit until the Second World War.

0:08:31 > 0:08:34So, Fiona, the plant collectors had a big effect on this garden,

0:08:34 > 0:08:36- didn't they?- Very much so.

0:08:36 > 0:08:40The second Lord Aberconway, who was Henry Duncan McLaren,

0:08:40 > 0:08:45he invested very heavily into the plant collectors in the early 1900s.

0:08:45 > 0:08:50These were people that were going out to far-flung places,

0:08:50 > 0:08:53such as China, America, Australia

0:08:53 > 0:08:58and they were bringing plants back from very dangerous areas

0:08:58 > 0:09:03and they would risk their lives to collect seed and plants.

0:09:03 > 0:09:06They had to be there at the right time and then, of course,

0:09:06 > 0:09:09they had to bring them back by ship. And of course you know

0:09:09 > 0:09:12- about the Wardian case?- Yeah.

0:09:12 > 0:09:15Nathaniel Ward, he was the one who invented that,

0:09:15 > 0:09:19and so they were able to bring more plants back, still alive.

0:09:19 > 0:09:24Nathaniel Ward's invention revolutionised plant collecting.

0:09:24 > 0:09:28The Wardian case is a glass contraption, like a mini greenhouse.

0:09:28 > 0:09:31It protected living specimens dug up in remote locations

0:09:31 > 0:09:35and allowed them to be easily transported home.

0:09:35 > 0:09:37It was a gift for the late Victorian plant hunters

0:09:37 > 0:09:39sponsored by the Aberconways.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43Men like Frank Kingdon-Ward and George Forest were able to

0:09:43 > 0:09:49travel the world, returning to Bodnant with their prize specimens.

0:09:49 > 0:09:51Kingdon-Ward headed to the Far East,

0:09:51 > 0:09:55returning from Tibet with the first viable seed from the meconopsis,

0:09:55 > 0:09:59the Himalayan blue poppy, that still grows freely at Bodnant.

0:10:01 > 0:10:04George Forest travelled to China and concentrated

0:10:04 > 0:10:08his efforts in Yunnan province, amassing a huge collection

0:10:08 > 0:10:12of rhododendrons, which he sent back to his benefactor in Wales.

0:10:14 > 0:10:18Now one of the country's national collections of rhododendrons

0:10:18 > 0:10:19flourishes at Bodnant.

0:10:22 > 0:10:26But as many as 600 different species at times came back to Bodnant,

0:10:26 > 0:10:28didn't they, through these collectors?

0:10:28 > 0:10:30Well, the head gardeners,

0:10:30 > 0:10:35which includes the three generations from the Puddle family -

0:10:35 > 0:10:39Frederick, Charles and Martin - in one of their diaries,

0:10:39 > 0:10:45they actually said they were excited about opening these cardboard boxes

0:10:45 > 0:10:51and packaging and crates, for plants that had never been seen before

0:10:51 > 0:10:56in this country and they didn't know how these plants would survive.

0:10:56 > 0:11:00What we feel with this garden is phenomenal love.

0:11:00 > 0:11:06Mutual respect of the owner and the gardener, the plant collector,

0:11:06 > 0:11:09the vision, coming together to make

0:11:09 > 0:11:12a very, very spectacular collection of plants,

0:11:12 > 0:11:14in such a beautiful setting.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17As Henry Duncan McLaren used to say,

0:11:17 > 0:11:21design means everything. And then, once you've got the design,

0:11:21 > 0:11:25you can actually put in the plants later.

0:11:25 > 0:11:27Have the skeleton and then put the muscles.

0:11:27 > 0:11:29Where else could you get this

0:11:29 > 0:11:31and where else would you want to go?

0:11:33 > 0:11:36Of all the plants those intrepid explorers brought back,

0:11:36 > 0:11:39I love Bodnant's primula collection.

0:11:42 > 0:11:46There are 25 foreign species in the collection here,

0:11:46 > 0:11:48gathered in Asia all those years ago.

0:11:49 > 0:11:52Flowering in Bodnant's famous collection is

0:11:52 > 0:11:55the candelabra primula from Sichuan.

0:11:55 > 0:11:58Its cerise flowers create swathes of colour in the wilder

0:11:58 > 0:12:01areas of the dell and the shrub borders.

0:12:01 > 0:12:04It's a welcome splash of colour in the late spring.

0:12:06 > 0:12:09It loves semi-shade and rich, moist conditions

0:12:09 > 0:12:12and it doesn't mind if the soil tends towards acidic.

0:12:14 > 0:12:18Amongst Bodnant's exotics are examples of Britain's

0:12:18 > 0:12:19five native primulas.

0:12:20 > 0:12:22You'll find good old common primrose

0:12:22 > 0:12:26and cowslips growing freely in the less formal areas of the garden.

0:12:29 > 0:12:32Every time I turn a corner in this garden,

0:12:32 > 0:12:34there's another surprise.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38Now this area of the garden has a very different feel to it,

0:12:38 > 0:12:40doesn't it? So how was it created?

0:12:40 > 0:12:43Well, this area, where we're standing now,

0:12:43 > 0:12:48we're actually in front of the Poem Mausoleum, which was built

0:12:48 > 0:12:53by Henry Davis Pochin and it's the final resting place of the family.

0:12:53 > 0:12:56But what makes it also my favourite area,

0:12:56 > 0:13:01is that when I was training as a starter-off gardener,

0:13:01 > 0:13:07I was give this huge project to actually renovate this area.

0:13:08 > 0:13:10Tackling an unloved patch of garden

0:13:10 > 0:13:14so early in her training has stood Fiona in good stead.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17Getting your hands dirty and starting from scratch

0:13:17 > 0:13:20is the only way to learn how to plant and where to plant.

0:13:22 > 0:13:25There's always stories behind a particular tree

0:13:25 > 0:13:26or a particular shrub -

0:13:26 > 0:13:30where it's come from, where it's going, how it's been planted,

0:13:30 > 0:13:33whether the colour, the texture's right for that area,

0:13:33 > 0:13:35the conditions of the soil.

0:13:35 > 0:13:39You know, here at Bodnant, we have stiff boulder clay overlying

0:13:39 > 0:13:43friable shaley rock that's acidic, but when you look around you,

0:13:43 > 0:13:47you think, how on earth can we produce

0:13:47 > 0:13:51a garden as beautiful as this over the rock that's only about two

0:13:51 > 0:13:54or three inches in some areas, below the surface.

0:13:54 > 0:13:57You see, the right plant, right place and it works.

0:13:57 > 0:14:00But people spend years mucking about with that.

0:14:00 > 0:14:03- Yeah.- Putting the wrong plant in and then it drops dead

0:14:03 > 0:14:04and then they say, "Flipping plant."

0:14:04 > 0:14:07- They don't say, flipping gardener. - Yes.

0:14:09 > 0:14:11There are exceptions to that rule,

0:14:11 > 0:14:14but on the whole, gardeners lose plants every season

0:14:14 > 0:14:16while they work out what grows best where.

0:14:16 > 0:14:20But there's an easy short cut to avoid a bin full of dead plants.

0:14:21 > 0:14:24They should go to gardeners, ask them questions, saying,

0:14:24 > 0:14:26"What condition have you got here?"

0:14:26 > 0:14:29You know, "What condition do your hellebores like?

0:14:29 > 0:14:33"Do they like damp or dry conditions and what type of soil?"

0:14:33 > 0:14:36And as gardeners, we love talking.

0:14:36 > 0:14:38All the time!

0:14:38 > 0:14:42- Shall we do some of these hellebores? - Yeah, I suppose we should.

0:14:42 > 0:14:45And we're just going to deadhead these hellebores.

0:14:45 > 0:14:47They've got hellebore leaf spot.

0:14:47 > 0:14:49- Yeah.- So what do you normally do with this stuff

0:14:49 > 0:14:52- when you've cut it off? - We'd have to burn that.

0:14:52 > 0:14:56You couldn't compost it, otherwise the spores'd invade into the

0:14:56 > 0:14:59compost and you'd get it everywhere, so you've got to burn it.

0:14:59 > 0:15:02- And it ruins anything that's diseased.- Yes.

0:15:02 > 0:15:05Now, you see, I've got a little fancy trick with hellebores.

0:15:05 > 0:15:08You know that how they seed down really easy on the soil?

0:15:08 > 0:15:10- Yes.- That's not a problem because you just dig them up,

0:15:10 > 0:15:12pot them up and then grow them on.

0:15:12 > 0:15:15If you take the seed away or you get dried seed,

0:15:15 > 0:15:17it'd be a nightmare to germinate.

0:15:17 > 0:15:21- Right.- If you sow it just into pure horticultural sand

0:15:21 > 0:15:25and keep that really damp, germinates like mustard and cress.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27Oh, lovely.

0:15:37 > 0:15:40Further down the valley is Bodnant's damp dell,

0:15:40 > 0:15:43the highlight of this garden for me.

0:15:44 > 0:15:48I work in the dell with a team.

0:15:48 > 0:15:52I think it's got the wow factor, you've got the huge champion trees,

0:15:52 > 0:15:56but people don't realise how actually large these trees are.

0:15:58 > 0:16:02Some species tower up 100 feet above the dell.

0:16:05 > 0:16:08Fiona does sometimes have to go home.

0:16:08 > 0:16:11But gardens like this attract their own fan club,

0:16:11 > 0:16:16and here there's a large team of gardeners and locals who help out.

0:16:16 > 0:16:21We have about 30-35 garden volunteers that come in

0:16:21 > 0:16:22about one day a week.

0:16:22 > 0:16:25We also have the meeters and greeters,

0:16:25 > 0:16:29the people that say hello and direct the cars in the car park.

0:16:29 > 0:16:31Again, we couldn't do without them.

0:16:31 > 0:16:36I think we work all together, as one big family.

0:16:36 > 0:16:38And is there that sense of camaraderie

0:16:38 > 0:16:40right from the top, all the way down?

0:16:40 > 0:16:43Oh, it's got to be, especially in Bodnant Garden.

0:16:43 > 0:16:47That's what makes it so special. And just look around you.

0:16:47 > 0:16:52You know, working in this area, working in Bodnant Garden,

0:16:52 > 0:16:54who could want for more, really?

0:16:54 > 0:16:57It is a very special place.

0:17:06 > 0:17:09Someone who can't resist the allure of Bodnant is

0:17:09 > 0:17:11green-fingered volunteer Phyllis Davies,

0:17:11 > 0:17:15who has a family connection with the garden that goes back generations.

0:17:17 > 0:17:21Phyllis's father and grandfather were originally Welshmen.

0:17:21 > 0:17:23Her family moved to London for work,

0:17:23 > 0:17:27but she returned every summer as a child to Bodnant.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30To me, this was sort of paradise, if you like, because

0:17:30 > 0:17:35it was all green and we had grass and you had trees and you didn't

0:17:35 > 0:17:38get too many of them in the East End of London, especially after the war.

0:17:38 > 0:17:40It was a different world.

0:17:40 > 0:17:44A different world and a world I actually wanted to be part of.

0:17:45 > 0:17:47With Wales running through her veins,

0:17:47 > 0:17:49at the age of 20, she left London

0:17:49 > 0:17:53and returned to her family homeland, living close to Bodnant

0:17:53 > 0:17:57where her grandfather had been one of the estate's first volunteers.

0:17:59 > 0:18:02He was a local, retired policeman, naturally at home

0:18:02 > 0:18:06asking people to keep off the grass and giving them directions.

0:18:07 > 0:18:11I don't think that he would actually have been as

0:18:11 > 0:18:14chatty to people as we are.

0:18:14 > 0:18:19And maybe they weren't to him, I don't know.

0:18:19 > 0:18:23He did have a great regard for Bodnant and I think he'd be

0:18:23 > 0:18:26quite chuffed actually, to find that, you know, there was

0:18:26 > 0:18:30a member of his family that was keeping the tradition going.

0:18:31 > 0:18:33I hope so, anyway.

0:18:34 > 0:18:37Once her family had grown up and she retired,

0:18:37 > 0:18:41Phyllis decided to continue the family tradition volunteering here.

0:18:43 > 0:18:45So what do you actually like about the job?

0:18:45 > 0:18:47Meeting people.

0:18:47 > 0:18:51And you get their different views on, you know, what they like.

0:18:51 > 0:18:53And you say, "Did you have a lovely...?"

0:18:53 > 0:18:55"Oh, yes, we've had a wonderful time."

0:18:55 > 0:18:57And how many years have you been coming? You know,

0:18:57 > 0:18:59cos I've seen you over a few years.

0:18:59 > 0:19:01- Oh, this is my sixth year. - Sixth year.- Yeah.

0:19:01 > 0:19:03Wow, that must be great fun.

0:19:03 > 0:19:04Yes, it is great fun.

0:19:06 > 0:19:09The 180,000 tourists who visit every year, and the

0:19:09 > 0:19:14volunteers who work at Bodnant, all take away a personal memory.

0:19:14 > 0:19:17So what does this garden actually mean to you?

0:19:17 > 0:19:21It means a lot to me because my grandfather came here,

0:19:21 > 0:19:22doing what I'm doing now,

0:19:22 > 0:19:27many, many years ago. And so I've grown up coming to the garden.

0:19:27 > 0:19:30And although I wasn't born here, I always said that when I was old

0:19:30 > 0:19:34enough, I would come and live here, and that's exactly what I've done.

0:19:34 > 0:19:38You gain a new understanding of a garden when you work in it

0:19:38 > 0:19:39and chat to the visitors.

0:19:39 > 0:19:43Phyllis has some lovely tales to tell.

0:19:43 > 0:19:45We had one lady who came, who was in a wheelchair,

0:19:45 > 0:19:48she was a very elderly lady and we asked her had

0:19:48 > 0:19:52she had a lovely time, she said, "Oh, yes." And she said, "When I die,

0:19:52 > 0:19:55"which won't be long because I'm 95," she said, "I hope that heaven

0:19:55 > 0:19:58will be like this, because..." she said to me,

0:19:58 > 0:20:00"..this is Heaven on Earth."

0:20:00 > 0:20:03That's what a garden can do to you, it can touch your soul.

0:20:05 > 0:20:08The Aberconways left us a wonderful garden to enjoy,

0:20:08 > 0:20:13but I often think us ordinary folk should leave our mark, too.

0:20:13 > 0:20:16Everyone who's worked hard in a garden like this deserves

0:20:16 > 0:20:17a little recognition.

0:20:17 > 0:20:20What I really like about this terrace is

0:20:20 > 0:20:24the rhythm that's created with these obelisks.

0:20:24 > 0:20:27They draw you along. And it's one of your favourite areas, isn't it?

0:20:27 > 0:20:30Yes, I love the trellises and I love the urns on the tops.

0:20:32 > 0:20:36The rose terraces were carved out of the valley-side in 1905.

0:20:36 > 0:20:40They take giant steps down the steep hill with the climbing roses

0:20:40 > 0:20:43supported on wooden trellises.

0:20:43 > 0:20:45They've been repaired in recent years,

0:20:45 > 0:20:49but restoring the urns on top has been too costly.

0:20:50 > 0:20:52The Lord Aberconway used to

0:20:52 > 0:20:56reside in London, and he used to go to the Ritz Hotel for his tea

0:20:56 > 0:21:01or his dinner. And he saw the urns positioned right along the roofline.

0:21:01 > 0:21:06And he actually brought the design back to Bodnant and these gardens.

0:21:06 > 0:21:09- So he nicked the idea.- Well, let's just say he borrowed the idea.

0:21:09 > 0:21:11Borrowed it permanently.

0:21:11 > 0:21:13A new urn with a heavenly inscription

0:21:13 > 0:21:16engraved on it could be the perfect tribute to the team at Bodnant,

0:21:16 > 0:21:20something that celebrates all the gardeners and volunteers here.

0:21:25 > 0:21:27Getting people to enjoy gardens

0:21:27 > 0:21:31and the landscape is one of my missions in life.

0:21:31 > 0:21:34And what a landscape Snowdonia is.

0:21:34 > 0:21:38It attracts four and a quarter-million visitors every year.

0:21:39 > 0:21:42And at its heart, lies Wales's highest mountain - Snowdon -

0:21:42 > 0:21:47a whopping 3,560 feet.

0:21:47 > 0:21:50It's a Site of Special Scientific Interest,

0:21:50 > 0:21:53home to unique plants and protected species,

0:21:53 > 0:21:57as well as to the famous Snowdon Mountain Railway,

0:21:57 > 0:21:58managed by Alan Kendall.

0:21:59 > 0:22:04Snowdon has always been a magnet for intrepid visitors.

0:22:04 > 0:22:09So prior to a railway, you had a thousand people a day in 1850,

0:22:09 > 0:22:14walked up it or travelled by donkey or mule or horse.

0:22:14 > 0:22:19So it's always been a Mecca for people out to enjoy the outdoors.

0:22:19 > 0:22:22When the railway was opened in 1896,

0:22:22 > 0:22:28they also opened a very nice hotel and well-to-do people could

0:22:28 > 0:22:32come and put Snowdon on their 1896 bucket list.

0:22:34 > 0:22:38Queen Victoria's love affair with Britain's highland wildernesses

0:22:38 > 0:22:41had removed the fear-factor from the country's crags.

0:22:41 > 0:22:44And with a railway running all the way to the summit,

0:22:44 > 0:22:47the well-heeled Victorian as well as the day-tripper could now

0:22:47 > 0:22:49enjoy the views from Wales' top mountain.

0:22:51 > 0:22:54But in 1890, the railway may never have been started,

0:22:54 > 0:22:57if the slate industry had not gone into decline,

0:22:57 > 0:23:01forcing the local landowner, Ashton Smith, to diversify.

0:23:04 > 0:23:06He reckoned that if a thousand people a day

0:23:06 > 0:23:07were prepared to walk up it,

0:23:07 > 0:23:12then perhaps even more might pay to ride to the summit.

0:23:12 > 0:23:16December, 1894, they cut the first sod on the railway.

0:23:18 > 0:23:22Official, you know, had an official ceremony and construction started

0:23:22 > 0:23:27straightaway with a completion date scheduled for July, 1895.

0:23:28 > 0:23:31It was clear that they weren't going to achieve that

0:23:31 > 0:23:35because of the amount of time it took to build the viaducts.

0:23:35 > 0:23:39By January, 1896, the thing was complete

0:23:39 > 0:23:41and the first train was at Easter.

0:23:43 > 0:23:45It could all have ended there.

0:23:45 > 0:23:48On the inaugural journey, disaster struck one engine,

0:23:48 > 0:23:51which ran out of control on descent.

0:23:51 > 0:23:53One passenger died.

0:23:55 > 0:23:58Thankfully, that was the last rail accident on the mountain,

0:23:58 > 0:24:01and nowadays, 350,000 tourists

0:24:01 > 0:24:05safely reach Snowdon's summit on foot and by train every year.

0:24:14 > 0:24:16Since the Victorians' first attempts,

0:24:16 > 0:24:19only small areas of Snowdonia have been tamed.

0:24:20 > 0:24:23But those that are, are spectacular.

0:24:25 > 0:24:28Much older than the railway or even Bodnant is

0:24:28 > 0:24:31Bodysgallen, another stunning valley garden.

0:24:31 > 0:24:34It was originally built 800 years ago as a lookout tower

0:24:34 > 0:24:37for Conwy Castle across the Conwy estuary.

0:24:37 > 0:24:41But it's now a house and a very spectacular garden,

0:24:41 > 0:24:43covering 200 acres.

0:24:45 > 0:24:48The gardens here flourish despite the terrain.

0:24:48 > 0:24:52Harsh rocks and tricky soil never stopped a Victorian gardener

0:24:52 > 0:24:54intent on making a fabulous display.

0:24:55 > 0:24:59Bodysgallen is really exciting from the ground,

0:24:59 > 0:25:03but from up here, you can see the definition of that parterre

0:25:03 > 0:25:07far clearer than you can see it when you're down there and intimate.

0:25:07 > 0:25:11It's a garden that excites, both from down there and from up here.

0:25:17 > 0:25:21It's a wonderful historic estate, now a smart hotel,

0:25:21 > 0:25:24but it's really only the grounds that I've come here for.

0:25:24 > 0:25:28I'm dead envious of the head gardener, Robert Owen.

0:25:28 > 0:25:30What a cracking job he's got.

0:25:32 > 0:25:35Robert, how long have you been associated with this garden?

0:25:35 > 0:25:37This is my 34th year.

0:25:37 > 0:25:39- So you came as a young man?- Yeah.

0:25:39 > 0:25:41- A little tiny boy. - Has it changed over the years?

0:25:41 > 0:25:45I believe it's better now than it was 30 years ago, yeah.

0:25:45 > 0:25:47It's better than when I first saw it,

0:25:47 > 0:25:50and I first saw it in about 1979, 1980.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53- So you're doing a cracking job. - Thank you.

0:25:53 > 0:25:57Historically, what was the role of the head gardener in that period?

0:25:57 > 0:26:01Well, 150 years ago, the head gardener would have been responsible

0:26:01 > 0:26:06for putting unusual, early, late fruits and vegetables on the table.

0:26:06 > 0:26:08For the honorary guests.

0:26:08 > 0:26:13Today, my duties are to please the guests of the house

0:26:13 > 0:26:17and make sure that this parterre and other parts of the garden

0:26:17 > 0:26:22are up to the standard which are expected in a house of this quality.

0:26:22 > 0:26:24- So, in many ways, exactly the same roles.- Yeah.

0:26:24 > 0:26:28The gardens at Bodysgallen had a slow start.

0:26:28 > 0:26:32When the Mostyn family inherited the house in the Tudor period,

0:26:32 > 0:26:36they turned the estate over to farming and food production.

0:26:36 > 0:26:40Like many important houses, it still has its walled kitchen garden.

0:26:40 > 0:26:43But what makes Bodysgallen different are the terraces

0:26:43 > 0:26:47and the 200-year-old parterre garden they reveal,

0:26:47 > 0:26:51laid out with their gravel paths and formal symmetrical planting.

0:26:53 > 0:26:56See, to me, this is fascinating because, you know,

0:26:56 > 0:26:58there are lots of parterres around the country, but there are very

0:26:58 > 0:27:02few with herbs and there's very few that give you this advantage

0:27:02 > 0:27:05of standing above them, because you can't get into the house.

0:27:05 > 0:27:08You know, so many of them, you've got to go

0:27:08 > 0:27:11upstairs in the house to see, but here you've got this lovely

0:27:11 > 0:27:15walkway that drifts you through, and you can see it all and enjoy it.

0:27:15 > 0:27:18And it's the millions of years of geology underneath

0:27:18 > 0:27:21Snowdonia that dictates how gardens like this develop.

0:27:23 > 0:27:27This is a prehistoric glacial and volcanic landscape,

0:27:27 > 0:27:30where the glaciers dropped their deposits, and

0:27:30 > 0:27:34where the volcanic ash floated down, decreeing what type of soil you get.

0:27:34 > 0:27:37And you don't have to be far apart to be working in totally

0:27:37 > 0:27:38different conditions.

0:27:40 > 0:27:43What's fascinating about this garden is that

0:27:43 > 0:27:45we're only five miles away from Bodnant,

0:27:45 > 0:27:49that's an acid-based garden, this is a limestone-based garden.

0:27:49 > 0:27:55So, you know, what else differs to you, as a horticulturalist?

0:27:55 > 0:27:58Well, we work round the limestone in the plants that

0:27:58 > 0:28:02we've used, but also it's smaller, it's more compact.

0:28:02 > 0:28:05It's got little pockets of gardens,

0:28:05 > 0:28:10probably more adapted to what was here probably 1900.

0:28:10 > 0:28:15If you think of Bodnant, probably 30 gardeners, we've got three.

0:28:15 > 0:28:19- Tee-hee. Slight difference, then.- Yes.

0:28:19 > 0:28:21The whole estate here is more than twice

0:28:21 > 0:28:23the size of Bodnant, yet Robert

0:28:23 > 0:28:26and his colleagues manage all of this with a tenth of the team.

0:28:28 > 0:28:31Their job is to preserve, as well as to enhance.

0:28:31 > 0:28:35And that's exactly what Robert's done at the bottom of the garden,

0:28:35 > 0:28:38a spot visitors rarely reach.

0:28:38 > 0:28:41Come on, I want to have a nosy down there.

0:28:42 > 0:28:45From the terrace, everything leads downhill

0:28:45 > 0:28:47to the vegetable garden and beyond.

0:28:50 > 0:28:52It might be a hotel these days,

0:28:52 > 0:28:55but the gardens at Bodysgallen Hall still provide the lion's

0:28:55 > 0:28:58share of produce for its kitchens and flower vases.

0:29:01 > 0:29:05I enjoy this bit of the garden because, you know,

0:29:05 > 0:29:08it's all about productivity and this is all used for cutting, isn't it?

0:29:08 > 0:29:09Yes, yes.

0:29:09 > 0:29:11And presumably, you make lovely arrangements

0:29:11 > 0:29:13- up in the house and do all that. - Yep.

0:29:13 > 0:29:16It must have been really great in the old days, you know,

0:29:16 > 0:29:19the ladies coming down with their baskets, filling them all up

0:29:19 > 0:29:22and taking them up there. And good old day lilies.

0:29:22 > 0:29:24The best thing to do with a day lily,

0:29:24 > 0:29:26apart from arranging it, is eating it.

0:29:29 > 0:29:30Mm!

0:29:30 > 0:29:32- Lovely?- Yeah.

0:29:34 > 0:29:36Just short of a little bit of a dressing,

0:29:36 > 0:29:37but apart from that, lovely.

0:29:37 > 0:29:39Very good.

0:29:39 > 0:29:42How do you mange to, you know, do that with your delphiniums?

0:29:42 > 0:29:45I'd have big stakes in and I'd have crisscrossing wire.

0:29:45 > 0:29:49Well, the florist on Thursday will cut the taller ones out.

0:29:49 > 0:29:54- Right.- But because it's in a walled garden, the winds are not going to...

0:29:54 > 0:29:57- So you don't get eddies?- No, no.

0:29:57 > 0:30:00Well, OK. So they just stand there erect and splendid.

0:30:00 > 0:30:03Yep. It'd have to be a really bad day to knock them down.

0:30:03 > 0:30:05Oh, that's beautiful, absolutely beautiful.

0:30:05 > 0:30:07Do you enjoy the veggie garden?

0:30:07 > 0:30:09Yes, yes, very much so.

0:30:09 > 0:30:13The guests love to see home-grown produce going in the house,

0:30:13 > 0:30:15for the table.

0:30:15 > 0:30:16And you see, it's so beautiful.

0:30:16 > 0:30:19But it's the combination of things isn't it,

0:30:19 > 0:30:22cos I look at the earth and I see the colour of the soil.

0:30:22 > 0:30:26And then your eye's taken up to the house, and it's the same colour.

0:30:26 > 0:30:31The detail, it's the lines of the bricks, then picked up with

0:30:31 > 0:30:34the lines on the terrace and then you've got the lines

0:30:34 > 0:30:38of the hedges, the top of the wall and then the lines of the espaliers.

0:30:38 > 0:30:39Very clever.

0:30:42 > 0:30:46And the most striking feature is the formal herb parterre.

0:30:52 > 0:30:55This is an unusual parterre, planted with herbs,

0:30:55 > 0:30:59but here at Bodysgallen, I don't mind that at all!

0:30:59 > 0:31:01The deep walls protect the parterre from the coastal

0:31:01 > 0:31:03winds of Colwyn Bay,

0:31:03 > 0:31:07which means that sun-loving herbs can be grown here most of the year.

0:31:09 > 0:31:11The tall fronds of the bronze fennel provide

0:31:11 > 0:31:14architectural height among the herb collection.

0:31:16 > 0:31:20Bronze fennel is an edible herb, not to be confused

0:31:20 > 0:31:24with bulb-forming Florence fennel, which is eaten as a vegetable.

0:31:24 > 0:31:27Bronze fennel is all about the aniseed flavour

0:31:27 > 0:31:28in its wispy leaves.

0:31:31 > 0:31:32Then there's the curry plant.

0:31:34 > 0:31:35This is part of the daisy family

0:31:35 > 0:31:39and gets its name from the pungent smell of curry drifting up from it,

0:31:39 > 0:31:42although it's not what it tastes of.

0:31:42 > 0:31:44If you're going to cook with this herb,

0:31:44 > 0:31:47use it like you would sage, which is also here.

0:31:47 > 0:31:50It wouldn't be a herb garden without it.

0:31:50 > 0:31:52This is a Mediterranean herb,

0:31:52 > 0:31:55but has put down roots in many cooler climates, and thrives here.

0:31:57 > 0:31:59On a hot sunny day like this,

0:31:59 > 0:32:03the walled parterre is thick with scents wafting from every corner.

0:32:09 > 0:32:12As you descend through the garden rooms at Bodysgallen,

0:32:12 > 0:32:15each one takes you nearer to the tree-framed view that brings

0:32:15 > 0:32:17back warm memories for me.

0:32:20 > 0:32:22I really enjoy bringing tour groups down here,

0:32:22 > 0:32:24cos I bring them through the woods and they think,

0:32:24 > 0:32:26"What's she up to now?" And we come along here

0:32:26 > 0:32:29and all they can see is a green terrace, they don't understand it.

0:32:29 > 0:32:31And I come along here and I say,

0:32:31 > 0:32:36"Now, why don't you just take a look...at that?"

0:32:36 > 0:32:39And all is revealed. Conwy Castle.

0:32:39 > 0:32:41And we used to come to Wales,

0:32:41 > 0:32:44and my dad every year used to take me to see the smallest house,

0:32:44 > 0:32:48and then me mum would buy crab off that guy along the front

0:32:48 > 0:32:52and we'd have crab butties. And then we'd have a look at Conwy Castle.

0:32:52 > 0:32:57And then we'd wander off up into Snowdonia, and that was our holiday.

0:32:57 > 0:33:00But year after year, as little kids, and that's why

0:33:00 > 0:33:04I love coming back here and that's why I love that view.

0:33:04 > 0:33:06So many reasons to visit a garden -

0:33:06 > 0:33:09some of them plants, some of them memories.

0:33:09 > 0:33:12A garden is an aide-memoire to life.

0:33:21 > 0:33:24I've only got to close my eyes for my personal garden

0:33:24 > 0:33:27memories to appear. And at Bodnant,

0:33:27 > 0:33:30which according to one visitor is Heaven on Earth,

0:33:30 > 0:33:33I'd like to leave a tribute to all the people

0:33:33 > 0:33:35who make these memories happen every day.

0:33:35 > 0:33:38Replacing one of the weathered rose-trellis urns

0:33:38 > 0:33:42would leave a fresh mark in this piece of heaven.

0:33:42 > 0:33:44Designer of all things exquisite and wooden,

0:33:44 > 0:33:47Andrew John Lloyd has taken up the challenge.

0:33:49 > 0:33:54Well, creating this urn has been quite a difficult project.

0:33:54 > 0:33:57There are no detailed drawings of this piece available,

0:33:57 > 0:34:00so we're having to literally go back to the drawing board

0:34:00 > 0:34:05and recreate what the original draughtsman created.

0:34:05 > 0:34:11At this stage, things are worked out mathematically to create the jigs

0:34:11 > 0:34:14that we're going to have to make to process the making of this urn.

0:34:14 > 0:34:18We are using traditional methods to create what is a traditional urn.

0:34:20 > 0:34:22So they had to go right back to basics and,

0:34:22 > 0:34:25although they're using modern power tools,

0:34:25 > 0:34:27the techniques and processes are the same as they were when

0:34:27 > 0:34:32Lord Aberconway commissioned all those rose urns half a century ago.

0:34:33 > 0:34:38But the materials we're using on this urn are native

0:34:38 > 0:34:39to Bodnant Gardens itself.

0:34:39 > 0:34:42We're using Douglas fir for the cap,

0:34:42 > 0:34:45which has a great durability to weather.

0:34:45 > 0:34:47And then, for the main body, we're using oak,

0:34:47 > 0:34:51which has a great strength and will give the structure its stability.

0:35:14 > 0:35:18Snowdonia has 14 peaks and is rich in wildlife,

0:35:18 > 0:35:21but the mountains over there provide the source of raw

0:35:21 > 0:35:24materials for the people that live and work there.

0:35:27 > 0:35:30Sheep-farming and slate-mining have been

0:35:30 > 0:35:33the mainstays of Snowdonia's economy for centuries.

0:35:34 > 0:35:37Generation after generation of men would go to

0:35:37 > 0:35:41work in the mines, eking out a meagre living.

0:35:41 > 0:35:44But when the need for slate went into decline,

0:35:44 > 0:35:49the quarries and mines stopped working, and so did the men.

0:35:49 > 0:35:53The area suffered a lot of unemployment over the past 60 years.

0:35:53 > 0:35:57But community initiatives to help retrain locals are getting

0:35:57 > 0:36:00people back into work, as well as helping those that have

0:36:00 > 0:36:03wandered away from the straight and narrow.

0:36:04 > 0:36:09One such organisation is a garden project run by Tina Hill.

0:36:09 > 0:36:11The project is one of the many projects

0:36:11 > 0:36:15that are run by a group called Golygfa Gwydyr, which is a local

0:36:15 > 0:36:18social enterprise community group, so this is our gardening project.

0:36:18 > 0:36:23We have a very formal vegetable garden

0:36:23 > 0:36:27and we have potential for a much less formal

0:36:27 > 0:36:29but equally important...forest garden.

0:36:29 > 0:36:32Tina trains the volunteers in the techniques

0:36:32 > 0:36:34needed to run the gardens here,

0:36:34 > 0:36:38teaching them everything from basic soil preparation to planting

0:36:38 > 0:36:39and harvesting.

0:36:39 > 0:36:41The programme aims to give them

0:36:41 > 0:36:44the skills to find alternative employment.

0:36:44 > 0:36:46We give them opportunities,

0:36:46 > 0:36:50we show them what's possible and we'll support them in their choices.

0:36:50 > 0:36:53Anthony Sinkinson, a seasonal kitchen worker

0:36:53 > 0:36:57in the local hotels, had been unemployed for a while.

0:36:57 > 0:37:01With nothing to do all day, he'd got himself into a bit of local bother,

0:37:01 > 0:37:05but joining Golygfa Gwydyr has turned his life round.

0:37:05 > 0:37:09I started volunteering about five or six months ago.

0:37:09 > 0:37:11I was hanging about with the wrong crowd and, you know,

0:37:11 > 0:37:14I was doing silly things sometimes and I just wanted to get

0:37:14 > 0:37:18away from all that and do something for the community, for myself

0:37:18 > 0:37:22and for my daughter and for all of us who are involved in the garden.

0:37:22 > 0:37:25It's a scenario that Tina has seen before.

0:37:25 > 0:37:29Being a rural area, there's not that much in the way of work.

0:37:29 > 0:37:32People want to stay here - they've got a support network here

0:37:32 > 0:37:33and it's important for them.

0:37:33 > 0:37:36Particularly if you're in that situation where

0:37:36 > 0:37:38you're looking for work, it's very easy to get depressed, it's very

0:37:38 > 0:37:42easy to get isolated and you need your network of people around you.

0:37:43 > 0:37:46Without much large industry left in the area,

0:37:46 > 0:37:47employment is seasonal,

0:37:47 > 0:37:50based around the ebb and flow of visitors to the area.

0:37:53 > 0:37:56You come to rely on tourists and things like that, you know,

0:37:56 > 0:37:59cos we are in the middle of nowhere, really, and it's not

0:37:59 > 0:38:02like a city, you know, where there are loads of people all the time.

0:38:02 > 0:38:07And it's pretty much in the summer, really, where jobs become available.

0:38:07 > 0:38:09But then, you know, during the winter, it goes quiet again.

0:38:09 > 0:38:12Especially within the cooking industry like working in hotels

0:38:12 > 0:38:13and things around here, like.

0:38:14 > 0:38:17Anthony's knowledge of fresh vegetables,

0:38:17 > 0:38:19learned during his work as a seasonal chef, has paid

0:38:19 > 0:38:23dividends when it comes to working at the project's kitchen garden.

0:38:23 > 0:38:25When we came here, the place was...

0:38:25 > 0:38:28Oh, it was pretty wild, you know, everything was overgrown

0:38:28 > 0:38:30and nobody had been here for a good year.

0:38:30 > 0:38:34We've just re-dug up all the beds,

0:38:34 > 0:38:39we've come in and put new paths down, we've re-done the beds,

0:38:39 > 0:38:42put new wood and that down, we've got our own compost bins up

0:38:42 > 0:38:45and running, we've got the polytunnel up and going.

0:38:45 > 0:38:50We've got tomatoes, peppers, rhubarb, pumpkins.

0:38:50 > 0:38:52We've got all sorts going there, yeah.

0:38:54 > 0:38:56This place is all about collaboration, team building

0:38:56 > 0:38:58and changing life for the better.

0:38:58 > 0:39:00That's my kind of gardening.

0:39:02 > 0:39:05Since doing this volunteering and that, I've...

0:39:05 > 0:39:08I just love it being outside, being in the garden,

0:39:08 > 0:39:10learning about the plants

0:39:10 > 0:39:14and you know, how they work together and what they do for the environment

0:39:14 > 0:39:18and, you know, I've decided now that I want a change of career

0:39:18 > 0:39:21and, you know, get a job working in gardens or up in the woods.

0:39:22 > 0:39:24It's definitely been a major change in my life,

0:39:24 > 0:39:26doing something like this.

0:39:26 > 0:39:31It's helped me get away from town and come to somewhere like here and

0:39:31 > 0:39:34kind of get me away from people that I was hanging about with and things.

0:39:34 > 0:39:37And I've been here a couple of times with my daughter

0:39:37 > 0:39:39and my mate's brought his daughter and, you know,

0:39:39 > 0:39:43we all get stuck in and just to see the work that we've done now

0:39:43 > 0:39:46and everything growing nice-like, is just brilliant, yeah,

0:39:46 > 0:39:48and I can't wait for it to grow even more, to be honest,

0:39:48 > 0:39:51and start picking what we've grown, like,

0:39:51 > 0:39:54and hopefully, you know, sort out the community a bit.

0:39:54 > 0:39:56Help the community and...help ourselves.

0:39:59 > 0:40:02Henry Pochin and the Aberconways were the wealthy landlords

0:40:02 > 0:40:06in North Wales employing large numbers of labourers on the estate.

0:40:06 > 0:40:08But a century on, and it's smaller

0:40:08 > 0:40:12parcels of land like Golygfa Gwydyr that are providing a way into work.

0:40:33 > 0:40:36Here at Bodnant, they now employ one of the project's former volunteers,

0:40:36 > 0:40:39who learned skills that he can now develop further

0:40:39 > 0:40:40in this grand garden.

0:40:43 > 0:40:46Fiona started out with a small patch of land during her

0:40:46 > 0:40:47apprenticeship here,

0:40:47 > 0:40:51and has worked her way up to become central to the gardening team.

0:40:51 > 0:40:53Gardens are hard work.

0:40:53 > 0:40:57It's no walk in the park maintaining 80 acres to this standard.

0:40:57 > 0:40:59Just look at this rose garden.

0:41:00 > 0:41:03It's Phyllis's favourite part of Bodnant

0:41:03 > 0:41:06and the perfect spot to celebrate the volunteers' commitment.

0:41:08 > 0:41:12For me, this garden's about magic,

0:41:12 > 0:41:15because whenever I come here, I wander along the terraces,

0:41:15 > 0:41:18and I have to be honest, I tend to rush through there

0:41:18 > 0:41:21because it's the magic in the dell that turns me on.

0:41:21 > 0:41:24But do you know what also turns me on?

0:41:24 > 0:41:26That's your passion.

0:41:26 > 0:41:32Now, Andy and his team have made this amazing urn.

0:41:32 > 0:41:36And you said to me something earlier

0:41:36 > 0:41:39that struck a real chord.

0:41:39 > 0:41:43And it was about a visitor. And what does this say in Welsh?

0:41:43 > 0:41:46- Nefoedd ar Ddaear.- Which is?

0:41:46 > 0:41:48Heaven on Earth.

0:41:48 > 0:41:50You and the volunteers,

0:41:50 > 0:41:54every single one of you, make this garden.

0:41:54 > 0:41:56- What do you think? - I think it's absolutely beautiful.

0:41:56 > 0:41:58I think it's grand, isn't it?

0:41:58 > 0:41:59I think up it can go. Well done!

0:42:17 > 0:42:19Well now it's up there, I think

0:42:19 > 0:42:21it looks even better than when it was down here.

0:42:21 > 0:42:23I think it looks absolutely beautiful.

0:42:23 > 0:42:27- So I think it's a toast to Bodnant. Cheers.- ALL: To Bodnant.

0:42:27 > 0:42:29ALL: Cheers!

0:42:38 > 0:42:41Hewn from the hillside, wrestled to the ground

0:42:41 > 0:42:44and planted so beautifully, Bodnant

0:42:44 > 0:42:49and Bodysgallen are Victorian jewels in Snowdonia's crown.

0:42:49 > 0:42:52I've visited them both so often I've lost count.

0:42:54 > 0:42:59And even now, and every time you come back to this garden,

0:42:59 > 0:43:02it's romantic, it's elegant

0:43:02 > 0:43:06and there's always something new.

0:43:06 > 0:43:10Cos people think they come to a garden once and that's it.

0:43:10 > 0:43:11But it isn't.

0:43:11 > 0:43:16Every time I come, I know I'm going to leave feeling really happy

0:43:16 > 0:43:19and totally in love with the place.