Episode 29

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0:00:02 > 0:00:03Hello and welcome to the show.

0:00:03 > 0:00:05Everybody has the idea of their dream home.

0:00:05 > 0:00:08Is it a cool city pad or somewhere in the country, nice and quiet?

0:00:08 > 0:00:10Hmmm, I'd like one of each of those, please.

0:00:10 > 0:00:14But your dream could be to build your own home from scratch, perhaps.

0:00:14 > 0:00:15Yes, whatever you're looking for,

0:00:15 > 0:00:18maybe it's just waiting for you to find it

0:00:18 > 0:00:20under the hammer.

0:00:45 > 0:00:48Now, buying at auction can be very daunting but getting

0:00:48 > 0:00:51something at the right price, well, it certainly makes up for it.

0:00:51 > 0:00:54Yes, so who placed the winning bids and what did they buy

0:00:54 > 0:00:55on today's show?

0:00:55 > 0:01:00I'm intrigued, I think we should find out.

0:01:00 > 0:01:04Have the buyers at this Gravesend terrace got their priorities sorted?

0:01:04 > 0:01:07It was local and it's near the pub.

0:01:10 > 0:01:13And there's no doubt what's top of the list at this

0:01:13 > 0:01:15northwest London property.

0:01:15 > 0:01:19- Coffee's an important thing for staff.- Absolutely!

0:01:19 > 0:01:22And in Derbyshire the important things are shelter,

0:01:22 > 0:01:25warmth and an inside loo.

0:01:25 > 0:01:30And, yes, the inside toilet. Get in!

0:01:30 > 0:01:33All these properties have been sold at auction. We'll find

0:01:33 > 0:01:36out who bought them and what they paid when they went

0:01:36 > 0:01:37under the hammer.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39It's yours, sir. Well done.

0:01:47 > 0:01:51We're off to the bustling Kent town of Gravesend to see

0:01:51 > 0:01:54a property that I first visited in April 2014.

0:01:54 > 0:01:58It was an end terrace two-bedroom house for sale at auction,

0:01:58 > 0:02:02guided at 115-125,000.

0:02:04 > 0:02:08With the front door out of action, I got in through the basement.

0:02:10 > 0:02:14Dusty, dirty, damp, just a few words that spring to mind

0:02:14 > 0:02:16in the first room I walk in.

0:02:16 > 0:02:21Yeah, a bit of a disappointment, actually. Not a great space

0:02:21 > 0:02:23and, it's clear to see, a lot of work will be done.

0:02:23 > 0:02:26Now, you expect basements to be dingy and dark

0:02:26 > 0:02:29but this really is something else.

0:02:29 > 0:02:32A kitchen which harks back to many moons ago,

0:02:32 > 0:02:35so all of this needs to be completely updated,

0:02:35 > 0:02:37it's filthy as well.

0:02:37 > 0:02:38And up here, what have we got?

0:02:38 > 0:02:41A little half-landing and a loo out the back.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43I'm going to investigate further.

0:02:49 > 0:02:52'So my first impressions were really not that great.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55'This property felt a little unloved.'

0:03:01 > 0:03:05There was that small loo on the landing but then on the ground

0:03:05 > 0:03:09floor there was a pretty good-sized bathroom, minus a toilet.

0:03:09 > 0:03:13Hello? There had obviously been a major falling out -

0:03:13 > 0:03:17common sense would say, "Get them back together in the same room."

0:03:19 > 0:03:25# Hello, is it me you're looking for. #

0:03:30 > 0:03:33The lounge on the ground floor was also a decent size

0:03:33 > 0:03:38and on the first floor, two generous bedrooms completed the tour.

0:03:38 > 0:03:42Now, I usually pride myself on straight talking but this house

0:03:42 > 0:03:45soon had me off on a tangent.

0:03:46 > 0:03:51It's almost as if this house is slightly on the wonk,

0:03:51 > 0:03:55a little bit lopsided even though it's not, it's structurally sound.

0:03:55 > 0:03:58But if you look down here, you know, it's very angular.

0:03:58 > 0:04:03It's almost as if there's a triangle there, but not quite.

0:04:03 > 0:04:06It's making me feel a bit wobbly walking around.

0:04:06 > 0:04:09And, you can see, this room here is hanging out over the landing.

0:04:09 > 0:04:13I just feel it really does need a major rearrange.

0:04:13 > 0:04:17Somebody needs to come in here and sort out all of the levels.

0:04:17 > 0:04:19So good luck to that person.

0:04:21 > 0:04:25So plenty of work needed to make this place habitable

0:04:25 > 0:04:28but, with lots of redevelopment work going on round about,

0:04:28 > 0:04:31I felt this was a great investment opportunity.

0:04:33 > 0:04:37Now, just because there is a building site next door, it doesn't

0:04:37 > 0:04:39mean you should run for the hills.

0:04:39 > 0:04:42A quick search and you would discover that this old

0:04:42 > 0:04:44council building, right here, is

0:04:44 > 0:04:47being turned into some new shiny flats

0:04:47 > 0:04:50and it's in keeping with what's happening in the broader

0:04:50 > 0:04:52picture around Gravesend,

0:04:52 > 0:04:56where just last year local councillors agreed the first stages

0:04:56 > 0:05:01of a £120 million regeneration programme for the town,

0:05:01 > 0:05:03which is so exciting.

0:05:03 > 0:05:07For an investor, a building site is a sign of regeneration

0:05:07 > 0:05:11and a helping hand in turning a profit.

0:05:13 > 0:05:15When the house went to auction there were a few bidders who

0:05:15 > 0:05:18agreed with me and after a quickfire battle,

0:05:18 > 0:05:22it was a final bid of 163,000 that secured the purchase.

0:05:22 > 0:05:24163,000.

0:05:24 > 0:05:26Quite sure all done.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28Sold to you, sir. Thank you very much.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31The man waving the paddle was Shane, who, together with his three

0:05:31 > 0:05:35friends Jay, Martin and Hugh, have pooled their resources to

0:05:35 > 0:05:39take a first step into the property development business.

0:05:40 > 0:05:43The four have been friends since their school days,

0:05:43 > 0:05:47so how did they come up with the idea of working together?

0:05:47 > 0:05:49Well, we're still chums and we see each other every

0:05:49 > 0:05:52week, we're in a pub quiz team together,

0:05:52 > 0:05:55and we just thought one night... At the pub quiz we thought,

0:05:55 > 0:05:58"Well, we're all getting old, we're coming up to retirement now,

0:05:58 > 0:06:00"what are we going to do?"

0:06:00 > 0:06:03Stupidly, and that was after a few drinks, we thought, "Oh, it would

0:06:03 > 0:06:07"be a good idea, we'll buy somewhere and see if we can do it up."

0:06:07 > 0:06:10We thought about how to deal with it and actually formed a company,

0:06:10 > 0:06:13so we have a company that has bought the property.

0:06:13 > 0:06:16We formed the company and then we visited, probably,

0:06:16 > 0:06:18seven or eight auctions.

0:06:18 > 0:06:21I should imagine we've probably looked at about 30 properties

0:06:21 > 0:06:23and this was the one that we were fortunate to get.

0:06:23 > 0:06:26It suits us because we all live in the area

0:06:26 > 0:06:29and so we're all within, probably, a mile of the property.

0:06:29 > 0:06:32- So did you all visit the property prior to the auction?- ALL: Yeah.

0:06:32 > 0:06:35We had a bit of trouble, though, because the guy that was showing us

0:06:35 > 0:06:39about from the auction company, took us round and said,

0:06:39 > 0:06:42"Oh, I can't shut this back door, somebody's opened this back door."

0:06:42 > 0:06:44And, of course, it had been shut for a long time.

0:06:44 > 0:06:47He said, "Could you give us a hand?" So I went round the back

0:06:47 > 0:06:50and he said, "Right, I'll pull it."

0:06:50 > 0:06:53I went to push it and put my arm through the glass

0:06:53 > 0:06:55and smashed the glass in the back.

0:06:55 > 0:06:59MUSIC: "Breaking Glass" by David Bowie

0:06:59 > 0:07:02Well, Jay, I know all breakages must be paid for

0:07:02 > 0:07:05but buying the whole house, it's a bit extreme!

0:07:05 > 0:07:10But, seriously, buying this place was quite a commitment.

0:07:10 > 0:07:12Now, I know a lot of people would have been put off on first

0:07:12 > 0:07:15glance at this because of what's going on next door.

0:07:15 > 0:07:19There's also no parking, it's in a really bad state of repair.

0:07:19 > 0:07:22What was it about this that made you guys want to bid on it?

0:07:22 > 0:07:23It was local and it's near the pub.

0:07:23 > 0:07:26THEY LAUGH

0:07:26 > 0:07:29That is the right reason!

0:07:29 > 0:07:32Yeah, no, because we all live fairly near,

0:07:32 > 0:07:34this was ideal and we know the area and,

0:07:34 > 0:07:37despite the building work that's going on, Gravesend

0:07:37 > 0:07:41really seems to be quite an up-and-coming place.

0:07:41 > 0:07:45It's 22 minutes to London on the high-speed train

0:07:45 > 0:07:49and it's a nice part of town, we're near town, it's a nice short walk

0:07:49 > 0:07:52- into the town centre. - So what happens now?

0:07:52 > 0:07:55Hugh, talk me through what the next stage is going to be for you guys.

0:07:55 > 0:07:57Right, the builder friend has been round and looked at the place

0:07:57 > 0:07:59and we've talked through a few proposals.

0:07:59 > 0:08:01We have a plan A and plan B.

0:08:01 > 0:08:05Plan A is to turn the basement into a one-bedroom flat

0:08:05 > 0:08:09and then the rest of the building to be turned into a two-bedroom flat.

0:08:09 > 0:08:11That's obviously subject to planning permission,

0:08:11 > 0:08:12building regs and so forth.

0:08:12 > 0:08:14What is your plan B?

0:08:14 > 0:08:18Plan B is to leave it as one unit and just renovate it.

0:08:18 > 0:08:20And they had carefully considered

0:08:20 > 0:08:24the cost implications for both options.

0:08:24 > 0:08:28We've got some indicative prices with regards to doing the two jobs.

0:08:28 > 0:08:30If it's a single entity, it'll be about 20,000

0:08:30 > 0:08:33but if we were to split it into two, which is what we want to be doing,

0:08:33 > 0:08:37- it's about £40,000, we think will be the costs to produce that.- OK.

0:08:37 > 0:08:41That's very much on the basis that the four of us will be

0:08:41 > 0:08:44involved as much as we can in terms of the, sort of,

0:08:44 > 0:08:46labouring elements of the work.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49- Really? I was going to move onto that.- Mostly the three of them.

0:08:49 > 0:08:53- For the three of them and you're just going to be telling them what to do.- Absolutely, that's the plan.

0:08:53 > 0:08:57He'll be making the coffee, that's what Jay's good at.

0:08:59 > 0:09:01OK, so with the coffee making sorted,

0:09:01 > 0:09:05I wanted to know about the real work.

0:09:05 > 0:09:09What skills... What can you each individually bring to the table?

0:09:09 > 0:09:11Well, there's a lovely bit of ironwork just outside,

0:09:11 > 0:09:13a nice, sort of, wrought iron

0:09:13 > 0:09:15railings which I quite fancy, sort of, tarting up

0:09:15 > 0:09:18- and making them look attractive. - That's got your name on it.

0:09:18 > 0:09:21So we're taking down the chimney bricks throughout the building and

0:09:21 > 0:09:23he's doing a little bit of painting at the back.

0:09:23 > 0:09:26Which sounds about right, that doesn't surprise us at all!

0:09:26 > 0:09:28So what are you going to bring to the table?

0:09:28 > 0:09:30I think, certainly like these two here...

0:09:30 > 0:09:33Basically, I had my own house for 30-odd years,

0:09:33 > 0:09:35got some DIY skills at home,

0:09:35 > 0:09:37this is a great opportunity to hone those skills and,

0:09:37 > 0:09:39indeed, develop other skills.

0:09:39 > 0:09:41The builder we've been talking to will, hopefully, give us an

0:09:41 > 0:09:44opportunity to use the tools a bit more, perhaps a bit of plastering,

0:09:44 > 0:09:46perhaps a little bit of brickwork,

0:09:46 > 0:09:48I don't quite know, whatever comes along.

0:09:48 > 0:09:51But, basically, when we finish this you've got that sense of achievement

0:09:51 > 0:09:55and you're in a better position to commence the new project as and

0:09:55 > 0:09:58when we sell this and we've got the money left to buy another property.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01- You do really want to be hands-on here.- Absolutely, yes.- Fantastic.

0:10:01 > 0:10:04So what's the timescale, the realistic timescale you've set yourselves?

0:10:04 > 0:10:06THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER

0:10:06 > 0:10:10I would love it if you all said different things at the same time.

0:10:10 > 0:10:11- A couple of weeks!- Oops!

0:10:11 > 0:10:13- We did discuss this yesterday, didn't we?- Yeah!

0:10:13 > 0:10:16- So, come on, timesescale, all say it together. Go!- ALL: Nine months.

0:10:16 > 0:10:20- Six to nine months. - Nine months.

0:10:22 > 0:10:25Hard to tell amongst all those voices but I'm sure I heard,

0:10:25 > 0:10:27"Nine months."

0:10:27 > 0:10:31Well, when we came back 11 months later, it was clear the lads

0:10:31 > 0:10:35had done a lot of work but things were running a bit behind.

0:10:40 > 0:10:43Planning permission had been granted for the conversion into two

0:10:43 > 0:10:45flats, a one-bed in the basement

0:10:45 > 0:10:49and a two-bed on the ground floor and first floors.

0:10:49 > 0:10:51Knowing the team's fondness for meeting up in the pub,

0:10:51 > 0:10:55I wondered how much of this had contributed to the delay.

0:10:58 > 0:11:00We've hardly ever been there.

0:11:00 > 0:11:03I think these things, inevitably, take longer than you imagine,

0:11:03 > 0:11:06especially for the first time that some of us have been involved in

0:11:06 > 0:11:09the process and then the added dimension

0:11:09 > 0:11:12was around this being part of a conservation area.

0:11:12 > 0:11:16So where we wanted to change, for example, the front door,

0:11:16 > 0:11:20and things like that, we had to get additional planning approval.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23We're moving into the finishing, sort of, situation at the moment.

0:11:23 > 0:11:26You can probably hear we've actually got builders working

0:11:26 > 0:11:27on-site at the moment.

0:11:27 > 0:11:31The builders are still putting in radiators, boilers

0:11:31 > 0:11:34baths, some electrical work.

0:11:34 > 0:11:37We're starting to paint the building from top to bottom,

0:11:37 > 0:11:40so these are the sort of tasks we can take on.

0:11:44 > 0:11:47To get an idea of how buoyant the market was, we invited two

0:11:47 > 0:11:51local estate agents along to have a look at this work in progress.

0:11:53 > 0:11:56I think there's always a demand for quality properties

0:11:56 > 0:12:01and, at the moment, I believe there is a shortage of properties.

0:12:01 > 0:12:04So if you've got something and if it is of good quality,

0:12:04 > 0:12:06I think it'll go very quickly.

0:12:06 > 0:12:09I think the owners have done a really good job here.

0:12:09 > 0:12:12They've converted it into two units, both of which will sell quite

0:12:12 > 0:12:15readily or be able to be rented out fairly quickly.

0:12:18 > 0:12:21Having spent 218,000 up to that point,

0:12:21 > 0:12:24the guys were planning to add a high-end finish to the

0:12:24 > 0:12:28decoration, in the hope of reaching the best possible sale price.

0:12:28 > 0:12:31Keeping that in mind and looking at the work done so far,

0:12:31 > 0:12:34what did the estate agents think the flats might be worth,

0:12:34 > 0:12:38starting with the one-bed basement?

0:12:38 > 0:12:41That should achieve a price in the region of £90,000.

0:12:41 > 0:12:45It should make somewhere in the region of £95,000

0:12:45 > 0:12:50and the upper flat should sell for somewhere in the region of £175,000.

0:12:50 > 0:12:55That property should achieve a price in the region of £160,000.

0:12:58 > 0:13:02But achieving that possible profit of 50,000 would mean ramping up

0:13:02 > 0:13:05the action and getting on with the work,

0:13:05 > 0:13:08isn't that right, boys?!

0:13:08 > 0:13:10We do, of course, have an unwritten rule that every board meeting

0:13:10 > 0:13:13- for the company has to be in a different pub.- In a different pub.

0:13:13 > 0:13:16That's the real reason that most of us are involved in the project,

0:13:16 > 0:13:18as you've probably guessed.

0:13:18 > 0:13:22That's where we're going at the moment.

0:13:22 > 0:13:25Well, we'll see the results of those "board meetings"

0:13:25 > 0:13:28and, hopefully, quite a lot of work later on in the show.

0:13:36 > 0:13:40Harrow Weald, in northwest London, is a busy part of the modern

0:13:40 > 0:13:44metropolis that has hidden historical depths.

0:13:44 > 0:13:46It's the site of Grim's Ditch,

0:13:46 > 0:13:49an earthwork, or man-made hill, that's believed by some

0:13:49 > 0:13:51to date back to the 5th century,

0:13:51 > 0:13:54though some think it may even be older,

0:13:54 > 0:13:57built as a defence against the Romans.

0:13:57 > 0:14:00Nowadays, the Romans would have no trouble getting from A to B

0:14:00 > 0:14:04as there are good links to the A41, M1 and M25.

0:14:04 > 0:14:06And a mile away there is the

0:14:06 > 0:14:10Bakerloo and London Overground station.

0:14:12 > 0:14:14So what was up for auction?

0:14:14 > 0:14:18Well, one of those auction lots you don't see every day,

0:14:18 > 0:14:21a former church premises.

0:14:21 > 0:14:25Hmmm, interesting, eh? A guide price at £250,000 plus.

0:14:25 > 0:14:29This is it, woohoo!

0:14:34 > 0:14:36Well, first off, it's worth noticing that

0:14:36 > 0:14:39the building looks pretty modern, which has got to be good news.

0:14:39 > 0:14:42It's likely to have proper damp-proof course,

0:14:42 > 0:14:46the roof is likely to be in good condition, good electrics, etc, etc.

0:14:46 > 0:14:50What have we actually got? Well, probably what you might expect.

0:14:50 > 0:14:54A little entrance area here, a few cupboards for storage,

0:14:54 > 0:14:58a loo, looks to be in fairly nice condition,

0:14:58 > 0:15:02lots of oak all over the place and...

0:15:02 > 0:15:04Yeah, it's good.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07What else is there?

0:15:07 > 0:15:09Whoa! One large room here, we'll explore that in a minute,

0:15:09 > 0:15:11but, first of all, look at this door.

0:15:11 > 0:15:15This is an amazing feature.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17How about that?!

0:15:17 > 0:15:19I don't know what you'd use it for but I love it.

0:15:19 > 0:15:23It's solid oak, it's really heavy and it's...

0:15:23 > 0:15:25HE GROANS

0:15:25 > 0:15:27..it's like a fortress.

0:15:27 > 0:15:31It's solid oak, I don't know if it's soundproofed or anything.

0:15:31 > 0:15:34It would be a shame to get rid of it because it probably cost a fortune.

0:15:34 > 0:15:39But once you get into this room, well, it's just great, actually.

0:15:39 > 0:15:42It's a bit bland, I suppose, but it's clean.

0:15:42 > 0:15:46You come in here and you get a size of the building, for sure.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49Straight away you're thinking a place of work, offices, or whatever.

0:15:49 > 0:15:52It would be really easy to convert it to that, it's almost ready-made.

0:15:52 > 0:15:56In terms of something else, eh, yeah...

0:15:56 > 0:16:01The fact that you've got this blank canvas is great news.

0:16:01 > 0:16:04So, yeah, from the outside...

0:16:04 > 0:16:05HE MUMBLES

0:16:05 > 0:16:08..in here, this is amazing.

0:16:09 > 0:16:12However, as exciting as this space is,

0:16:12 > 0:16:15there are some important things to bear in mind.

0:16:15 > 0:16:17We have to remember this was a church

0:16:17 > 0:16:21so, unless you are planning on buying this to have your own

0:16:21 > 0:16:25Sunday sermons, then we're talking change of use.

0:16:25 > 0:16:28This lot would be categorised as D1,

0:16:28 > 0:16:31it's a non-residential institution.

0:16:31 > 0:16:35And when it comes to buying property, check the use class

0:16:35 > 0:16:39and if the planning department will look favourably on a change of use.

0:16:39 > 0:16:43But if they do, there are some very interesting possibilities.

0:16:43 > 0:16:47The one thing that's really in favour of the building is that roof.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50It's only a single-storey dwelling and yet the roof height is

0:16:50 > 0:16:54almost the same height as the double sized buildings next door.

0:16:54 > 0:16:56So when it came to planning decisions,

0:16:56 > 0:16:57maybe putting in a second floor,

0:16:57 > 0:17:00certainly a dormer window, or something like that.

0:17:00 > 0:17:04I don't think the planners would have an issue, so that's great news.

0:17:06 > 0:17:08The roof space already has a generous attic

0:17:08 > 0:17:10but that possibility to extend

0:17:10 > 0:17:14the former church into the heavens means there's huge potential here.

0:17:14 > 0:17:19Plenty of parking space, too, that's always an added bonus.

0:17:19 > 0:17:21But what to do with all this?

0:17:21 > 0:17:24Well, let's listen to the thoughts of a local estate agent.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30# Glory, glory

0:17:30 > 0:17:35# Hallelujah. #

0:17:35 > 0:17:37If you could get the planning permission to convert

0:17:37 > 0:17:39it into houses or flats, I would say go with that

0:17:39 > 0:17:42because that's what you're surrounded by around here,

0:17:42 > 0:17:45that's where, I would say, the main money is.

0:17:45 > 0:17:48But if you couldn't and you had to keep it as a commercial property,

0:17:48 > 0:17:52I would say going for a convenience store or solicitors

0:17:52 > 0:17:54or an office of some sort.

0:17:56 > 0:18:00The agent thinks that converting the church into flats or

0:18:00 > 0:18:03a semi-detached house is a strong possibility

0:18:03 > 0:18:08and he values a two-bed semi in this area at £400,000,

0:18:08 > 0:18:14while one-bedroom flats can go for anything between 180-200,000.

0:18:14 > 0:18:17It does sound like there might be money to be made

0:18:17 > 0:18:19but you'd have to factor in the time for planning

0:18:19 > 0:18:23and all the demolition costs before you even start to build.

0:18:23 > 0:18:26So if you decide to convert it and turn it into a shop,

0:18:26 > 0:18:30what kind of money could it make?

0:18:31 > 0:18:36If you do get a convenience store or even A3 or A5 use on it,

0:18:36 > 0:18:42you could, actually, probably resale somewhere up to about £380,000.

0:18:42 > 0:18:45A3 would mean a cafe or restaurant,

0:18:45 > 0:18:48whereas an A5 is a takeaway.

0:18:48 > 0:18:50Hmmm, food for thought.

0:18:50 > 0:18:53However, what if you just wanted to make this an office of some kind?

0:18:53 > 0:18:56If you were to convert this to offices

0:18:56 > 0:19:01and put this on the open market, I'd say you'd be looking about £350,000.

0:19:03 > 0:19:05Well, a bit of a blank canvas, this one.

0:19:05 > 0:19:08Subject to the right planning permission, this could be

0:19:08 > 0:19:12a place of business, flats, maybe just a home.

0:19:12 > 0:19:14Yeah, a great opportunity.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16Let's see who thought it was heaven-sent

0:19:16 > 0:19:18when it went under the hammer.

0:19:18 > 0:19:22Unfortunately, we're unable to bring you the bidding on this

0:19:22 > 0:19:25property, although we know interest was keen.

0:19:27 > 0:19:32The building was bought for £365,000 by Kiran.

0:19:32 > 0:19:37She paid a whopping 115 grand over the guide price and came along with

0:19:37 > 0:19:40Winston, who is the manager of her business, to tell us

0:19:40 > 0:19:44what's going to happen to the former church premises.

0:19:44 > 0:19:48- Kiran and Winston, good to meet you both.- Hi.- Hi.- Congratulations!

0:19:48 > 0:19:51Tell me why you wanted to buy this place.

0:19:51 > 0:19:56We wanted to have this to run a fostering service from it and also

0:19:56 > 0:20:02for it to be a community based place where we can run women's groups...

0:20:02 > 0:20:04- Fantastic.- .. and run training events.

0:20:04 > 0:20:06We're both social workers

0:20:06 > 0:20:11and we have been in the fostering field for quite a while.

0:20:11 > 0:20:15We recruit foster carers and place vulnerable children with them.

0:20:15 > 0:20:17Wow! What a fantastic job.

0:20:17 > 0:20:21In this area or a bit further afield?

0:20:21 > 0:20:23All over greater London, the outskirts of London.

0:20:23 > 0:20:27Is this a charity or is this part of the local authority?

0:20:27 > 0:20:29Well, it's an independent fostering agency,

0:20:29 > 0:20:33so, technically speaking, we make profits

0:20:33 > 0:20:36but, you know, we tender our services

0:20:36 > 0:20:38- out to the local authorities.- Right.

0:20:38 > 0:20:41And so people come to you or do you go searching for people,

0:20:41 > 0:20:43to find foster parents?

0:20:43 > 0:20:45- We go searching.- Right.

0:20:45 > 0:20:49So what were you looking for, then, in terms of a building?

0:20:49 > 0:20:52We needed an office space so the staff could

0:20:52 > 0:20:56operate from the office space and for foster carers to come here as well.

0:20:56 > 0:20:59I would have thought it's an absolutely ideal building.

0:20:59 > 0:21:01As you can see, I mean, it's got a lots of potential.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03Anything we could imagine that we

0:21:03 > 0:21:06could do in here, whether it's partitions, building up, you know,

0:21:06 > 0:21:09we can go for it.

0:21:11 > 0:21:15Winston's absolutely right, this is a really flexible space.

0:21:15 > 0:21:19So what's the initial plan?

0:21:19 > 0:21:23At the moment it needs a bit of a refurb.

0:21:23 > 0:21:25We need a kitchen area,

0:21:25 > 0:21:30we need to make it look a lot more presentable than at the moment.

0:21:30 > 0:21:32Maybe go up into the loft space, as well.

0:21:32 > 0:21:34And then in the future maybe expand it even more.

0:21:34 > 0:21:38Right, but the idea that it is this office space to start off with,

0:21:38 > 0:21:41but also a bit of a multiuse building, if you like?

0:21:41 > 0:21:43So, in terms of the internal layout, then,

0:21:43 > 0:21:46tell me what your thoughts are at this point.

0:21:46 > 0:21:49We've had a lot of thoughts around are we going to partition areas,

0:21:49 > 0:21:51are we going to make smaller offices,

0:21:51 > 0:21:53a nice little boardroom area for

0:21:53 > 0:21:56people to meet and have training events?

0:21:56 > 0:22:01So it's looking at how we can use this space.

0:22:01 > 0:22:03'A little bit of thinking needed on the best layout.

0:22:03 > 0:22:08'But they'll need to be quick as they want to move in, in just one month.

0:22:08 > 0:22:13'It's a tight timescale but is the budget as tight as well?'

0:22:15 > 0:22:20So, initially, we're looking at about £15,000.

0:22:20 > 0:22:23And, obviously, if we go up into the roof,

0:22:23 > 0:22:25the budget will need to be extended from there.

0:22:25 > 0:22:27And what would you put up there?

0:22:27 > 0:22:30Would that just be dormer windows and more, sort of...?

0:22:30 > 0:22:33- More office space.- Office space, OK.

0:22:33 > 0:22:36First stage is really, sort of, I would say, sitting down,

0:22:36 > 0:22:41talking to the staff team a bit more, looking at how we're going to

0:22:41 > 0:22:43divide the space, colour schemes,

0:22:43 > 0:22:46where's the kitchenette going to go.

0:22:48 > 0:22:52- Coffee's an important thing for staff.- Absolutely!

0:22:52 > 0:22:55And how involved in the actual process of the renovations

0:22:55 > 0:22:57are you both going to get?

0:22:57 > 0:22:59- Very involved.- Very involved?!

0:22:59 > 0:23:03- A hands-on painting kind of thing?! - Yeah.

0:23:03 > 0:23:07- See you in your overalls tomorrow. - Why not!

0:23:07 > 0:23:11That comment might very well backfire, Winston,

0:23:11 > 0:23:14looks like you'll all be getting a set of overalls

0:23:14 > 0:23:18and hold on to them for a while because if you do decide to go into

0:23:18 > 0:23:20that loft space, well, you'll need them to paint

0:23:20 > 0:23:22and decorate up there, too.

0:23:22 > 0:23:24Obviously, two people of many talents

0:23:24 > 0:23:28but I particularly wanted to know what drew them into social work.

0:23:30 > 0:23:34We've both been in social work for a very long time, 25 years for me

0:23:34 > 0:23:37and, I think...

0:23:37 > 0:23:40- About 30 for me.- Really?! Oh, wow!- Yeah.

0:23:40 > 0:23:43A big step to saying, well, there's a need but then going out

0:23:43 > 0:23:44and doing something about it.

0:23:44 > 0:23:49Yeah, definitely, but we're very passionate about what we do.

0:23:49 > 0:23:52We've got a good staff team that's got a lot of skills

0:23:52 > 0:23:55and experience, so that really helps us.

0:23:55 > 0:23:59There's a lot of children out there that need foster care,

0:23:59 > 0:24:01a huge number of children that need foster care, so...

0:24:01 > 0:24:04It's a very fulfilling job you've, sort of,

0:24:04 > 0:24:09- taken on, isn't it?- Yeah. - Definitely.- Yeah, definitely.

0:24:09 > 0:24:11Well, listen, congratulations, extremely worthwhile

0:24:11 > 0:24:15- and wonderful what you're doing. So good luck with it.- Thank you.

0:24:15 > 0:24:18- I look forward to seeing how you get on.- Thanks very much.

0:24:20 > 0:24:25Well, turning this former church into offices is, definitely,

0:24:25 > 0:24:28a good move, especially with the close proximity to good transport

0:24:28 > 0:24:30links like the underground.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33Still, lots of decisions to be made.

0:24:33 > 0:24:37Will they get divine inspiration? You can find out later in the show.

0:24:39 > 0:24:44Still to come, is there a father/son disagreement in Derbyshire?

0:24:44 > 0:24:46Plenty of family arguments about what we should do

0:24:46 > 0:24:48and, in the end, we got there.

0:24:51 > 0:24:55And in London, all is equally harmonious.

0:24:55 > 0:24:58We very much want to be part of the community here.

0:25:03 > 0:25:05Back now to Gravesend, in Kent,

0:25:05 > 0:25:08where we first met our four old school friends,

0:25:08 > 0:25:11who decided to invest their savings in property.

0:25:11 > 0:25:15So they took their piggy banks along to a local auction.

0:25:15 > 0:25:18# We are the funky men... #

0:25:18 > 0:25:21Sold to you, sir. Thank you very much.

0:25:21 > 0:25:22The end result was the purchase of this

0:25:22 > 0:25:27two-bedroom end terrace house for 163,000.

0:25:27 > 0:25:29It was local and it's near the pub.

0:25:34 > 0:25:36Proximity to the pub aside,

0:25:36 > 0:25:39this house had great investment potential.

0:25:39 > 0:25:41The local area was undergoing a face-lift

0:25:41 > 0:25:44and the guys' timing couldn't have been better.

0:25:45 > 0:25:49Gravesend really seems to be quite an up-and-coming place,

0:25:49 > 0:25:5222 minutes to London on the high-speed train.

0:25:52 > 0:25:57The plan was to convert the house into a one-bed and a two-bed

0:25:57 > 0:26:00flat and the fab four were keen on getting their hands dirty.

0:26:00 > 0:26:03# We are the funky men. #

0:26:03 > 0:26:06Well, 75% of them, anyway.

0:26:06 > 0:26:10The four of us will be involved as much as we can in terms

0:26:10 > 0:26:13- of the, sort of, labouring elements of the work.- Really?

0:26:13 > 0:26:16And you're just going to be telling them what to do.

0:26:16 > 0:26:19- Absolutely, that's the plan. - He will be making the coffee.

0:26:19 > 0:26:22They had an original timescale of nine months and when we went

0:26:22 > 0:26:27back 11 months later, they were well on their way but not quite finished.

0:26:31 > 0:26:34Now a year since they started, we're back.

0:26:34 > 0:26:39There's a new door, but more importantly, not a builder in sight.

0:26:39 > 0:26:41But remember this damp and dingy basement...?

0:26:50 > 0:26:54Well, it's now a sparkling one-bedroom flat.

0:27:00 > 0:27:04And, above that, the two-bedroom maisonette.

0:27:15 > 0:27:18This looks like a spectacular result,

0:27:18 > 0:27:21made all the more impressive by the fact that this was the

0:27:21 > 0:27:24four friends' first foray into property development.

0:27:24 > 0:27:28With builders and other trades handling the technical stuff,

0:27:28 > 0:27:32the decorating and finishing touches were left to the gang of four.

0:27:34 > 0:27:37There's a variation of input between each of the guys.

0:27:37 > 0:27:39You know, there's a couple of younger ones who are stronger,

0:27:39 > 0:27:41so they'll do the heavier type work

0:27:41 > 0:27:44and a couple who do the lighter, painting sort of work.

0:27:44 > 0:27:46And then there's Jay.

0:27:46 > 0:27:48And there is Jay, yes, yes.

0:27:48 > 0:27:50I fetched the coffees.

0:27:50 > 0:27:55- And the rest of us have mucked in and decorated top to bottom.- Yeah.

0:27:55 > 0:28:00To be fair, you know, Jay has enlisted help from his wife

0:28:00 > 0:28:04and friends to make up for the lack of input on his own part.

0:28:04 > 0:28:07He's been very busy, sort of, going abroad.

0:28:07 > 0:28:12He's just recently retired, he's been on lots of holidays, etc,

0:28:12 > 0:28:14but he turns up when he's available.

0:28:14 > 0:28:19They've never trusted me with the delicate work, apart from the rail

0:28:19 > 0:28:21outside that, right from the start, they said,

0:28:21 > 0:28:24if I want that done, I've got to jolly well do it myself.

0:28:24 > 0:28:27So I'm responsible for that.

0:28:27 > 0:28:30I think he's done a good job out there and the rest of us

0:28:30 > 0:28:34were keen to keep him out there, to be honest.

0:28:34 > 0:28:39# Three's a crowd Four's a traffic jam... #

0:28:40 > 0:28:43Oh, poor Jay. I bet your coffee's brilliant.

0:28:43 > 0:28:47Anyway, he has made another very important contribution.

0:28:49 > 0:28:52We decided quite a long time ago that, I think the quote was,

0:28:52 > 0:28:55"You can't decide colours by committee."

0:28:55 > 0:28:57So we've largely left it to Jay.

0:28:57 > 0:28:59But there's more of a divided opinion.

0:28:59 > 0:29:04Some like the green, some like the apricot, not many like both.

0:29:04 > 0:29:08And not many that like either.

0:29:08 > 0:29:11I think the green, in particular, works really well

0:29:11 > 0:29:15and I think it's a contemporary colour for the age of the property.

0:29:15 > 0:29:19And I think the apricot is a very, very nice colour

0:29:19 > 0:29:22because it's in the part of the house that always gets the sun.

0:29:22 > 0:29:25So I think that's quite a cheery room, especially if somebody

0:29:25 > 0:29:29decides to use it as a nursery or a study, it's quite bright and cheery.

0:29:30 > 0:29:36# Fancy colours... #

0:29:36 > 0:29:39Next door, the large development is finally complete

0:29:39 > 0:29:43and has paid an unexpected dividend.

0:29:43 > 0:29:49Basically, we had an original wall in the back garden and, somewhere

0:29:49 > 0:29:54along the line, it was knocked into by the next-door contractors.

0:29:54 > 0:29:57And, as a solution, they offered to take the whole wall down

0:29:57 > 0:29:59and put the new fencing out there for us.

0:29:59 > 0:30:03So that was a bit of a result, really, from an accident.

0:30:05 > 0:30:09It's no accident that this development has turned out so well.

0:30:09 > 0:30:11The guys have put in a lot of planning

0:30:11 > 0:30:12and effort over the past year.

0:30:12 > 0:30:18Their budget of £55,000 crept up very slightly by 1.5 grand.

0:30:18 > 0:30:22So, adding that to the purchase price of 163,000,

0:30:22 > 0:30:26brings their final spend to £219,500.

0:30:31 > 0:30:34The boys are just about to put the flats onto the sales market

0:30:34 > 0:30:38and so what better time than to ask two local estate agents to

0:30:38 > 0:30:40give us their expert opinions.

0:30:41 > 0:30:43I think the owners have done a really good job here, actually,

0:30:43 > 0:30:45and I think the finish is very nice.

0:30:45 > 0:30:49When people are looking on the internet for properties, I think

0:30:49 > 0:30:52the actual colours will really stand out and should lead to a lot of new

0:30:52 > 0:30:55interest for this property when it goes onto the market.

0:30:55 > 0:30:57I think the fact that they've divided it into two flats is

0:30:57 > 0:30:59an excellent idea.

0:30:59 > 0:31:02It will appeal to investors, particularly,

0:31:02 > 0:31:05or if somebody wanted to buy and live in the top

0:31:05 > 0:31:08and rent out the bottom, that's an extra income for them.

0:31:08 > 0:31:10I think that was a brilliant idea

0:31:10 > 0:31:13and something I would have gone along with myself.

0:31:13 > 0:31:15Rental isn't the plan for this development,

0:31:15 > 0:31:19so for how much do they estimate each could sell?

0:31:20 > 0:31:25The studio flat will sell for somewhere between £95-100,000.

0:31:25 > 0:31:32The upper maisonette will sell for somewhere between £175-185,000.

0:31:32 > 0:31:37I would estimate the studio flat to be worth somewhere in the region of

0:31:37 > 0:31:41£95-100,000 and the two-bedroom maisonette

0:31:41 > 0:31:47to be worth in the region of £185-190,000.

0:31:49 > 0:31:53If the sales reach those top estimates, the four friends could be

0:31:53 > 0:31:58looking at a pre-tax profit of just over £70,000.

0:31:58 > 0:32:00That surely calls for a celebratory drink.

0:32:00 > 0:32:03Oh, yes, a pleasant surprise, to be perfectly honest.

0:32:03 > 0:32:06I think the flat, downstairs, the studio, is what we expected but

0:32:06 > 0:32:09upstairs, yes, that's pleasant, that's more than we anticipated.

0:32:09 > 0:32:11There's clearly a profit there and, as an accountant,

0:32:11 > 0:32:13I'm quite happy with that.

0:32:13 > 0:32:16And if he's happy, I'm happy.

0:32:22 > 0:32:24I'm heading to the village of Shipley

0:32:24 > 0:32:28near the former coal mining town of Heanor in Derbyshire.

0:32:28 > 0:32:31- # Going underground - Going underground

0:32:31 > 0:32:32# Well, let the boys all sing

0:32:32 > 0:32:37# And let the boys all shout For tomorrow... #

0:32:37 > 0:32:40Coal mining has helped shape the town since the 1500s and,

0:32:40 > 0:32:44although the colliery is now closed, it's still a popular town with good

0:32:44 > 0:32:47commuter links to nearby Nottingham and Derby.

0:32:49 > 0:32:53So just on the outskirts of town, on this busy main road that links

0:32:53 > 0:32:55Ilkeston to Heanor

0:32:55 > 0:32:59and opposite you've got some lovely open countryside.

0:32:59 > 0:33:02On this street, you've got modern and you've got old

0:33:02 > 0:33:05and the modern ones tend to bring in that little bit more money

0:33:05 > 0:33:09but look at this quaint row of miner's cottages.

0:33:09 > 0:33:11The one I'm here to see is right there.

0:33:11 > 0:33:15It's got a guide price of £43,000 plus and it's a two-up, two-down.

0:33:15 > 0:33:17Let's have a look.

0:33:22 > 0:33:26Now, you've got to remember, this is a cottage so there's not going

0:33:26 > 0:33:30to be a huge amount of space in here, in this, what would be,

0:33:30 > 0:33:31the lounge area.

0:33:31 > 0:33:35My eyes are drawn to this four bar gas fire.

0:33:35 > 0:33:38The '70s come to mind, my two brothers and my sister

0:33:38 > 0:33:41fighting for heat when we lived in Leicester together

0:33:41 > 0:33:43in our small little terraced house.

0:33:43 > 0:33:48OK, through into here into the back room or, maybe, dining room,

0:33:48 > 0:33:50table and chairs in here, somewhere.

0:33:50 > 0:33:53Into the kitchen, you know, the theme runs through here.

0:33:53 > 0:33:56This place hasn't been touched in a long time.

0:33:56 > 0:34:01You'd need new floors, new windows, practically new everything.

0:34:03 > 0:34:06# It's a good tradition Of love and hate

0:34:06 > 0:34:08# Staying by the fireside

0:34:08 > 0:34:13# There's a good tradition Of love and hate... #

0:34:15 > 0:34:18It's all very well me getting nostalgic but it's going to

0:34:18 > 0:34:21take a lot of work before anyone can get cosy in this place.

0:34:22 > 0:34:25Especially as any heat from the kitchen will go straight up

0:34:25 > 0:34:30that staircase next to it, along with those cooking smells - nice(!)

0:34:32 > 0:34:35Out front, see the little clips on the roof tiles?

0:34:35 > 0:34:39A sign of a temporary repair and elsewhere it looks even more dodgy.

0:34:41 > 0:34:45Out the back there's a small garden space and an old outside toilet.

0:34:45 > 0:34:48Let's just hope that's not the only loo.

0:34:48 > 0:34:53I'm not sure I'd fancy that in the summer, let alone days like today.

0:34:55 > 0:34:59OK, upstairs, and yes, the inside toilet.

0:34:59 > 0:35:00Get in!

0:35:00 > 0:35:03Bedroom, two there, smaller one.

0:35:03 > 0:35:05And into the master bedroom, decent size,

0:35:05 > 0:35:08got some storage space over there.

0:35:08 > 0:35:12It would need new windows, most definitely,

0:35:12 > 0:35:14and some central heating.

0:35:14 > 0:35:18Here, I can see some concrete flooring as is downstairs.

0:35:18 > 0:35:21It's not unusual in Victorian properties.

0:35:21 > 0:35:23But, if you lift this lino...

0:35:23 > 0:35:25And there's no cracks in that concrete at all.

0:35:25 > 0:35:28..you can basically lay anything you want on top of it.

0:35:28 > 0:35:31For me, a nice soft carpet, please.

0:35:32 > 0:35:34This might be a small cottage

0:35:34 > 0:35:38but it's got a very big list of things that need doing.

0:35:38 > 0:35:41Yes, the guide price is a reasonable 43 grand

0:35:41 > 0:35:45but could this cottage turn out to be an economic basket case?

0:35:46 > 0:35:49We asked a local estate agent along to give us his opinion.

0:35:51 > 0:35:53The property's in quite a bad state of repair,

0:35:53 > 0:35:56it does require quite a lot of modernisation to bring it up

0:35:56 > 0:35:59to a saleable standard and, certainly, a rentable standard.

0:35:59 > 0:36:02Looking round the property, there's no actual signs of any damp,

0:36:02 > 0:36:06it just wants a really, really good modernisation and makeover.

0:36:06 > 0:36:09But if the buyer does do a good renovation,

0:36:09 > 0:36:11what chance have they got to rent or sell?

0:36:11 > 0:36:14It's quite a popular area, the market's fairly buoyant

0:36:14 > 0:36:15at the moment.

0:36:15 > 0:36:17We're fairly close to two major cities

0:36:17 > 0:36:21as well as Shipley being fairly close to a country park,

0:36:21 > 0:36:24we've got open views front and rear.

0:36:24 > 0:36:26So we're agreed, plenty of work to do

0:36:26 > 0:36:30but once done it could be an ideally placed rental property.

0:36:30 > 0:36:33So how much might all that work cost?

0:36:33 > 0:36:36I think you're looking in the region of about a £20-£30,000

0:36:36 > 0:36:38spend on this particular property.

0:36:38 > 0:36:41Assuming the house sells for around the guide price and you

0:36:41 > 0:36:43spend £30,000 on it,

0:36:43 > 0:36:47that would take you to a 73 grand investment.

0:36:47 > 0:36:50Is there a possible profit here and what could it sell for?

0:36:50 > 0:36:53Once this property is fully completed to be very, very high standard,

0:36:53 > 0:36:58this should be fetching in and around £95-£100,000.

0:36:58 > 0:37:01So a lot of work could generate a half decent profit.

0:37:01 > 0:37:03What about the rental values?

0:37:03 > 0:37:06The rental market is very buoyant at the moment,

0:37:06 > 0:37:09this property should fetch £495 per calendar month.

0:37:10 > 0:37:14There's definitely room for improvement here and, as we've heard,

0:37:14 > 0:37:17the resale and rental markets are buoyant.

0:37:17 > 0:37:21Now, there's a bona fide opportunity here for a developer,

0:37:21 > 0:37:23if they can get it to the right price.

0:37:23 > 0:37:26Let's see what happened when it went under the hammer.

0:37:26 > 0:37:29It's a cottage style two-bedroom terraced house that requires

0:37:29 > 0:37:32a scheme of updating and improvement.

0:37:32 > 0:37:35Who's got 40,000 to start me for it?

0:37:35 > 0:37:36£40,000, it's not a lot of money.

0:37:36 > 0:37:3940, thank you at the back, I've got you, sir.

0:37:39 > 0:37:41£40,000, my opening bid.

0:37:41 > 0:37:4340 is my starter. 41 on the left.

0:37:43 > 0:37:45At 41, 42.

0:37:45 > 0:37:4842,000, 43.

0:37:48 > 0:37:4944.

0:37:49 > 0:37:52Two competing bidders drove this price up very quickly.

0:37:52 > 0:37:56We rejoin the bidding at £57,000.

0:37:56 > 0:37:59£57,000, bid's right at the back.

0:37:59 > 0:38:0257.5 somewhere else?

0:38:02 > 0:38:06At £57,000 for the first time,

0:38:06 > 0:38:09£57,000 second time.

0:38:09 > 0:38:11500. 58.

0:38:11 > 0:38:1358, no.

0:38:13 > 0:38:16At 58,000 once.

0:38:16 > 0:38:1858.5.

0:38:18 > 0:38:2059,000.

0:38:20 > 0:38:2159.5.

0:38:21 > 0:38:2459.5. 60,000.

0:38:24 > 0:38:2660,000. Definite?

0:38:26 > 0:38:29£60,000 once,

0:38:29 > 0:38:31twice, third time.

0:38:31 > 0:38:33It's yours, sir. Well done at 60,000.

0:38:33 > 0:38:35Ajab, on the right,

0:38:35 > 0:38:40found himself being congratulated on his successful bid of £60,000.

0:38:43 > 0:38:46Ajab is a taxi driver and a property developer

0:38:46 > 0:38:50and already has nine properties in his portfolio, which he rents out.

0:38:50 > 0:38:55I met with him to find out what he had planned for his latest venture.

0:38:55 > 0:38:58- Ajab, nice to meet you.- Nice to meet you.- Congratulations.- Thank you.

0:38:58 > 0:39:01Let's get back to the auction, how was it?

0:39:01 > 0:39:03- It was great.- Yeah?- Yeah.

0:39:03 > 0:39:06And did you only go for this property alone?

0:39:06 > 0:39:08Actually, yes.

0:39:08 > 0:39:11Tell us why this particular property, first and foremost.

0:39:11 > 0:39:13First of all, I don't live far from here,

0:39:13 > 0:39:18- I only live 200 yards away. - 200 yards?!- 200 yards, yeah.

0:39:18 > 0:39:20And when I saw it, I just...

0:39:20 > 0:39:23I said, "That's it, I'm going to get that.

0:39:23 > 0:39:25And what about the price?

0:39:25 > 0:39:28Did you get it for what you want, did you go over?

0:39:28 > 0:39:30I got it cheap, actually. I could go over.

0:39:30 > 0:39:33- So you're happy?- I'm very happy, yes, yes.

0:39:33 > 0:39:35Have you saved a little bit of money

0:39:35 > 0:39:39- now so you can spend on this property?- That's right, yeah.

0:39:39 > 0:39:42Ajab is happy with paying 17 grand over the guide price

0:39:42 > 0:39:45but I'm beginning to worry a bit.

0:39:45 > 0:39:48If he intends spending anything like the 30 grand that the agent

0:39:48 > 0:39:53thought it might take, then the profit margin is beginning to narrow.

0:39:53 > 0:39:55Ajab, tell me a little bit more in depth what you're

0:39:55 > 0:39:58actually going to do to the property, how you're going to turn it around.

0:39:58 > 0:40:00What things have you really got to do?

0:40:00 > 0:40:05We've got to change the windows and put the central heating in.

0:40:05 > 0:40:09The first time I saw the stairs going through the kitchen,

0:40:09 > 0:40:14I'm thinking about changing them and putting them from the dining room.

0:40:14 > 0:40:17What budget have you got in your mind that you'd like...

0:40:17 > 0:40:19Well, not like to spend.

0:40:19 > 0:40:23Well budget is around about £7-10,000.

0:40:23 > 0:40:27Well, he's certainly not going to be risking any profit margin with that budget.

0:40:27 > 0:40:30That doesn't sound very much to me for all the work needed here

0:40:30 > 0:40:35and he has a tight 6-8 weeks schedule, for a very pressing reason.

0:40:35 > 0:40:39I'm going on holiday, I want to finish this project before I go.

0:40:39 > 0:40:42- Where are you going to?- I'm going to India.- Ah!

0:40:43 > 0:40:45# More, more, more

0:40:45 > 0:40:48# How do you like it, How do you like it?

0:40:48 > 0:40:50# More, more, more

0:40:50 > 0:40:53# How do you like it, How do you like it...? #

0:40:56 > 0:41:00I think I would like it more if there was more money and more time.

0:41:00 > 0:41:04I mean, windows, central heating, roof repairs,

0:41:04 > 0:41:06modernisation of bathroom and kitchen,

0:41:06 > 0:41:10not to mention the decoration and flooring, is more than enough.

0:41:10 > 0:41:14But Ajab is also thinking of repositioning those stairs

0:41:14 > 0:41:15off the kitchen.

0:41:15 > 0:41:17But he does have years of experience

0:41:17 > 0:41:21and has a good relationship with a team of trades people.

0:41:21 > 0:41:25And that's not the only relationship tied up in this property.

0:41:25 > 0:41:29- It's for my son.- You bought it for your son? What's he doing to do?

0:41:29 > 0:41:32Is he going to live here or do the work on it, or?

0:41:32 > 0:41:34No, he's going to rent it out, he's going

0:41:34 > 0:41:38to do it up and rent it out, like an investment.

0:41:38 > 0:41:40Anybody else in the family going to get involved?

0:41:40 > 0:41:42My big boss, my missus.

0:41:43 > 0:41:46She knows about property,

0:41:46 > 0:41:49you'd be surprised. She's the main man in the house.

0:41:51 > 0:41:55So she's the one who, sort of, guides you now and again, helps you?

0:41:55 > 0:41:58She helps me, she's done about 14 kitchens...

0:42:01 > 0:42:04- You've got your...- ..that even the professionals can't copy.

0:42:04 > 0:42:06You can sit back, you can go on the beach and relax.

0:42:06 > 0:42:08That's what I usually do.

0:42:08 > 0:42:11I buy the property and she does all the work.

0:42:11 > 0:42:15- Does she do all the work for you?! - That's right.- Fantastic.- She's brilliant, she is.

0:42:15 > 0:42:17Ajab, good luck. I wish you all the best

0:42:17 > 0:42:20and make sure you check with your wife before you do anything.

0:42:20 > 0:42:23- Thank you.- Good luck.- Thank you very much.- Pleasure.

0:42:25 > 0:42:30This is a real family effort but despite the kitchen building talents

0:42:30 > 0:42:32of Ajab's wife Harvinda,

0:42:32 > 0:42:36I think all this work is a big ask for that budget.

0:42:36 > 0:42:40Will they get the whole thing sorted out in time for Ajab's India trip?

0:42:40 > 0:42:43Find out later on in the show.

0:42:45 > 0:42:48Well, we've seen how one set of buyers got on,

0:42:48 > 0:42:49what about the others?

0:42:49 > 0:42:52Did they spend more time and money than they were expecting?

0:42:52 > 0:42:55Or did they come in bang on target?

0:42:55 > 0:42:58Well, let's find out what went on.

0:42:59 > 0:43:04We return now to northwest London, Harrow Weald to be precise.

0:43:04 > 0:43:09Earlier I cast my eye over this former church premises.

0:43:09 > 0:43:12This is it. Woohoo!

0:43:14 > 0:43:18From the outside the building was in excellent condition

0:43:18 > 0:43:20and on the inside, full of potential

0:43:20 > 0:43:24for all manner of businesses or community enterprises.

0:43:24 > 0:43:27There was no doubting the star attraction

0:43:27 > 0:43:30and I just couldn't resist a trial of strength.

0:43:30 > 0:43:33Look at this door. This is an amazing feature.

0:43:33 > 0:43:36HE GROANS

0:43:36 > 0:43:37How about that?

0:43:39 > 0:43:42Phew! That was my day's workout taken care of.

0:43:42 > 0:43:47When this lot went to auction it was sold for £365,000 and was bought

0:43:47 > 0:43:53by Kiran who co-owns an independent fostering service in Greater London.

0:43:53 > 0:43:55Together with manager Winston they saw this building

0:43:55 > 0:43:58as an ideal opportunity to expand.

0:44:01 > 0:44:05We wanted to have this to run fostering service from it and also

0:44:05 > 0:44:11for it to be a community based place where we can run women's groups

0:44:11 > 0:44:13- and training events.- Fantastic.

0:44:13 > 0:44:15As you can see, I mean, it's got lots of potential.

0:44:15 > 0:44:17Anything we could imagine doing in here,

0:44:17 > 0:44:20whether it's partitions, building up, we can go for it.

0:44:21 > 0:44:26With a budget of £15,000 and a timescale of seven weeks,

0:44:26 > 0:44:29Kiran and Winston couldn't wait to get started.

0:44:29 > 0:44:32Almost four months have passed and we've come back

0:44:32 > 0:44:34to see how it's changed.

0:44:45 > 0:44:47Apart from the decoration and cabling,

0:44:47 > 0:44:51the open-plan area is, more or less, unaltered.

0:44:51 > 0:44:55No partitions have been put up and no extensions built into the

0:44:55 > 0:44:58loft space but several crucial changes have been made.

0:45:01 > 0:45:04The main piece of work, actually, is the windows

0:45:04 > 0:45:07because, although there were false windows outside

0:45:07 > 0:45:09but none on the inside, so that

0:45:09 > 0:45:12was the most major piece of work, really.

0:45:14 > 0:45:17Getting the windows done may have been important

0:45:17 > 0:45:21but when I first met Kiran, she had a more pressing priority.

0:45:21 > 0:45:23# Coffee time... #

0:45:23 > 0:45:25Where's the kitchenette going to go?

0:45:25 > 0:45:28- Coffee's an important thing for staff.- Absolutely.

0:45:28 > 0:45:31And voila! Where once were coats and hats,

0:45:31 > 0:45:33it's now lattes,

0:45:33 > 0:45:35espressos and Americanos.

0:45:35 > 0:45:39# Because it's coffee time. #

0:45:40 > 0:45:45It took a lot of thought in terms of where the kitchen area should be

0:45:45 > 0:45:49and in terms of trying to maintain as much good space

0:45:49 > 0:45:53as possible in the actual main office area.

0:45:53 > 0:45:57So we felt that we should have it slightly outside.

0:45:57 > 0:46:03But it's also... It's created a good space as well.

0:46:03 > 0:46:06And I'm delighted to see my favourite part of the building

0:46:06 > 0:46:07is still intact.

0:46:08 > 0:46:13# I don't want to lose This good thing... #

0:46:13 > 0:46:15We had lots of thoughts about it.

0:46:15 > 0:46:20We thought if we break it through we will create a lot more space

0:46:20 > 0:46:25but it just looks so nice and you just don't get that wood any more.

0:46:25 > 0:46:27Lots of people that have visited,

0:46:27 > 0:46:29that's the first thing they notice, actually.

0:46:29 > 0:46:32Yeah, so we've kept it.

0:46:32 > 0:46:37# I better knock on wood

0:46:37 > 0:46:39# Baby... #

0:46:39 > 0:46:42So were Kiran or Winston hands-on?

0:46:42 > 0:46:46Or did they get professionals to knock on wood?

0:46:46 > 0:46:50Oh, and brick and plasterboard...

0:46:50 > 0:46:54We sourced local builders and we asked around a little bit

0:46:54 > 0:46:58whose reputation was good and we've been really pleased with their work.

0:46:58 > 0:47:03However, it's a lot of pushing and keeping on target

0:47:03 > 0:47:06and a lot of monitoring, I couldn't leave them to it.

0:47:08 > 0:47:11# Don't turn your back on me... #

0:47:11 > 0:47:14Ah, well, it was all worth it, even though extra expenses,

0:47:14 > 0:47:16like the windows, meant Kiran

0:47:16 > 0:47:22went over her original £15,000 budget by 10,000.

0:47:22 > 0:47:25But there's no doubting their work has successfully transformed

0:47:25 > 0:47:29this into a fitting headquarters with this foster care company.

0:47:29 > 0:47:32The new premises have already had a positive effect.

0:47:34 > 0:47:37It feels like we've always been here, it really does feel like home.

0:47:37 > 0:47:39Since we've been here we've already expanded

0:47:39 > 0:47:42and we will continue to expand.

0:47:42 > 0:47:47We very much want to be part of the community here, which we already are.

0:47:47 > 0:47:50People are dropping in and wondering what we do.

0:47:50 > 0:47:53We've had a lot of interest

0:47:53 > 0:47:55and that will just go further

0:47:55 > 0:47:59and further in terms of the stuff that we're trying to do.

0:48:01 > 0:48:04Kiran and Winston have their feet firmly under the table

0:48:04 > 0:48:08but we've asked two local estate agents to come along and tell us

0:48:08 > 0:48:12how this building sits within a local commercial premises market.

0:48:14 > 0:48:20The property is very unusual, it's been well maintained throughout,

0:48:20 > 0:48:22it works perfectly as an office space.

0:48:22 > 0:48:26They've made various changes with the kitchen to the front,

0:48:26 > 0:48:29put in, obviously, all the desks, the computer equipment and

0:48:29 > 0:48:33I can see they've wired in all the networks and everything like that.

0:48:33 > 0:48:36So they've made quite a few changes, it's quite impressive.

0:48:37 > 0:48:40The company have only just settled in but

0:48:40 > 0:48:45if a future move was planned, how easy would it be to sell on?

0:48:45 > 0:48:48As it's situated in a predominantly residential area,

0:48:48 > 0:48:52would there be a high demand for office space in this location?

0:48:52 > 0:48:55The main thing that helps this property is the space that it's got,

0:48:55 > 0:48:57the location that it's got.

0:48:57 > 0:49:00Obviously you've got all the amenities locally

0:49:00 > 0:49:04and you've got further potential to, obviously, extend a business

0:49:04 > 0:49:06and you've got parking to the front, you've got, obviously,

0:49:06 > 0:49:09the kitchen and the space here.

0:49:09 > 0:49:12In this area there's a high demand for office space.

0:49:12 > 0:49:16It's a very residential area and has good transport links,

0:49:16 > 0:49:18so an office in this area is highly sought after.

0:49:18 > 0:49:22The strong selling point for this property are that it has

0:49:22 > 0:49:26off-street parking, which is an ideal advantage in this area.

0:49:26 > 0:49:29It's also in good condition throughout.

0:49:30 > 0:49:32Kiran and her business partner bought this

0:49:32 > 0:49:38property for £365,000 and they've spent around 25,000 on making it

0:49:38 > 0:49:41a good working environment that suits their needs.

0:49:41 > 0:49:45It's not going to be sold in the immediate future but how

0:49:45 > 0:49:50would this £395,000 investment fare on the commercial market?

0:49:50 > 0:49:52I would say that the property could either

0:49:52 > 0:49:55sell for £400-£415,000

0:49:55 > 0:49:59or could rent for £1,600 per calendar month.

0:49:59 > 0:50:02This property on the market today would sell for somewhere

0:50:02 > 0:50:04in the region of £400,000

0:50:04 > 0:50:07and it would rent for in the region of £1,600 per calendar month.

0:50:09 > 0:50:14Of course, it is reassuring that their investment

0:50:14 > 0:50:18has increased in value by around £25,000.

0:50:18 > 0:50:23But, truth be told, that's not the important factor here.

0:50:23 > 0:50:27Yeah, I mean, having a property like this, I think, has enabled us

0:50:27 > 0:50:29to operate far more effectively.

0:50:30 > 0:50:34I think that's enabled us, as a business, to grow better

0:50:34 > 0:50:37and I think as we grow we'll be able to provide

0:50:37 > 0:50:42families for the children who need them.

0:50:51 > 0:50:53Remember when I went to Shipley?

0:50:53 > 0:50:56(Which in old English means sheep pasture.)

0:50:56 > 0:51:00I took a look around this former Derbyshire miner's cottage.

0:51:00 > 0:51:04This two-up, two-down had definitely seen better days but someone still

0:51:04 > 0:51:09paid £17,000 over the guide price for this relic in need of a refit.

0:51:11 > 0:51:14That someone was Ajab who paid £60,000

0:51:14 > 0:51:17and purchased it on behalf of his son Jazz.

0:51:17 > 0:51:20Ajab is local, in fact he's very local.

0:51:21 > 0:51:26- I don't live far from here, I only live 200 yards away.- 200 yards?!

0:51:26 > 0:51:28200 yards, yeah.

0:51:28 > 0:51:33And when I saw it, I just... I said, "That's it, I'm going to get that."

0:51:36 > 0:51:40Ajab's main jobs were to sort out the roof, install central heating,

0:51:40 > 0:51:44rewire, fit new windows, make the kitchen bigger by moving

0:51:44 > 0:51:48the staircase into the dining room and install new kitchen units.

0:51:48 > 0:51:53Well, actually his wife Harvinda was going to do the kitchen.

0:51:53 > 0:51:55She knows about property.

0:51:55 > 0:51:58You'd we surprised, she's the main man, actually.

0:51:58 > 0:52:00She's done about 14 kitchens.

0:52:00 > 0:52:02You've got your...

0:52:02 > 0:52:05Even a professional couldn't copy it.

0:52:05 > 0:52:08You can sit back, you can go on the beach and relax.

0:52:08 > 0:52:12That's what I usually do. I buy the property and she does all the work.

0:52:13 > 0:52:16Did Ajab make it to the beach?

0:52:16 > 0:52:19And how did his main man Harvinda cope with her work?

0:52:20 > 0:52:22We're back after three months,

0:52:22 > 0:52:26which in the history of this old cottage, is but a moment.

0:52:26 > 0:52:29# When a moment

0:52:29 > 0:52:32# A moment changes everything

0:52:32 > 0:52:36# When a moment

0:52:36 > 0:52:39# A moment changes everything

0:52:39 > 0:52:42# When a moment

0:52:42 > 0:52:46# It changes everything... #

0:52:46 > 0:52:50Well, I think we can all agree that that bathroom has been changed

0:52:50 > 0:52:52for the better.

0:52:52 > 0:52:54My favourite changes are the new central heating

0:52:54 > 0:52:58and ceramic tiles that cover the old concrete floor nicely.

0:52:59 > 0:53:01With our backs to the bathroom,

0:53:01 > 0:53:05the new landing carpet and paintwork in soft muted shades also

0:53:05 > 0:53:08lifts the cottage from how it looked before.

0:53:09 > 0:53:13At the front, the bigger of the two bedrooms was in desperate

0:53:13 > 0:53:15need of modernisation.

0:53:16 > 0:53:19# When a moment

0:53:19 > 0:53:23# A moment changes everything

0:53:23 > 0:53:26# When a moment

0:53:26 > 0:53:29# A moment changes everything

0:53:29 > 0:53:35# When a moment... #

0:53:35 > 0:53:38Halfway down the landing, the smallest bedroom wouldn't

0:53:38 > 0:53:42frighten your kids anymore if they had to sleep in it.

0:53:45 > 0:53:49Instead of a ruin with a view, it's now a room with a view.

0:53:51 > 0:53:53Now, to downstairs.

0:53:53 > 0:53:58Remember the staircase used to end in the kitchen?

0:53:58 > 0:54:01But Ajab wanted to move it to the dining room.

0:54:01 > 0:54:03Sounds expensive, doesn't it?

0:54:03 > 0:54:07But I'm going to show you how cheap it can really be.

0:54:07 > 0:54:09By blocking off the kitchen door

0:54:09 > 0:54:12and replacing the last four treads of the existing staircase with

0:54:12 > 0:54:17kite steps, the staircase now turns into the dining room.

0:54:17 > 0:54:21Just think if the Chinese hadn't invented kites,

0:54:21 > 0:54:23Ajab would have been scuppered.

0:54:23 > 0:54:25There's new laminate flooring and new doors

0:54:25 > 0:54:27on the understairs cupboard

0:54:27 > 0:54:31and the lounge has a transparent door to make the most of the light.

0:54:31 > 0:54:35# Moment

0:54:35 > 0:54:38# A moment changes everything... #

0:54:38 > 0:54:42Unlike in the old days, I don't miss the gas fire.

0:54:42 > 0:54:46They'll be no huddling up for warmth anymore in this lounge.

0:54:47 > 0:54:49And, finally, downstairs.

0:54:49 > 0:54:53Let's take a look at Harvinda's piece de resistance.

0:54:53 > 0:54:55You couldn't call it a big kitchen

0:54:55 > 0:54:58but with the stairs doorway now blocked off,

0:54:58 > 0:55:01there's a bit more room for units.

0:55:01 > 0:55:04We're finished just in time because here comes Ajab

0:55:04 > 0:55:08with his solicitor son Jazz who owns the cottage.

0:55:08 > 0:55:11But, hang on a minute, where's Harvinda?

0:55:11 > 0:55:14We tried to get her on the camera, she won't come near it!

0:55:16 > 0:55:18It's her day off.

0:55:18 > 0:55:22And I'm glad to learn that Harvinda didn't do all the work herself.

0:55:22 > 0:55:25Ajab has a regular team of family and trades people, who,

0:55:25 > 0:55:30over the years, have helped him build his portfolio of nine rentals.

0:55:30 > 0:55:34But all the spending decisions were down to owner Jazz.

0:55:34 > 0:55:38Clearly he wasn't tempted to take any shortcuts with that roof.

0:55:38 > 0:55:41If we'd done a patch up job on it, there's a risk that we'll have to

0:55:41 > 0:55:46pay for the roof to be done, in any event, a year or two down the line.

0:55:46 > 0:55:49One bad winter and that work's gone as well.

0:55:49 > 0:55:53It just was a more common-sense approach.

0:55:53 > 0:55:57Did project manager Ajab manage to fit any time in on the beach?

0:55:57 > 0:56:00My dad's been to India in the meantime,

0:56:00 > 0:56:04my mum's been to Canada, my boy's not been well.

0:56:04 > 0:56:06But we've managed to keep on track.

0:56:06 > 0:56:08Plenty of phone calls, plenty of FaceTimes,

0:56:08 > 0:56:11plenty of family arguments about what we should do.

0:56:11 > 0:56:13In the end we got there.

0:56:13 > 0:56:17Even so, the 13 week job has only slightly overrun

0:56:17 > 0:56:20the original 6-8 week schedule.

0:56:20 > 0:56:24But did the overrun affect the spend on the cottage?

0:56:24 > 0:56:27I think if I'd been solely in charge of the budget we wouldn't have

0:56:27 > 0:56:29kept within in it

0:56:29 > 0:56:32because I just don't have the experience of keeping within one.

0:56:32 > 0:56:34But, yeah, we're happy with where it is,

0:56:34 > 0:56:37paid about 60, spent about ten.

0:56:37 > 0:56:40Still within the region that we'd like to be in.

0:56:41 > 0:56:45We invited two local estate agents along to help Jazz find out

0:56:45 > 0:56:48if his spending for the first time on property development stood to

0:56:48 > 0:56:50gain him a profit.

0:56:50 > 0:56:52He bought to rent out

0:56:52 > 0:56:58but if he wanted his £70,000 spend back now, where would he stand?

0:56:58 > 0:57:00First with a for sale evaluation.

0:57:00 > 0:57:03The agent who saw the property before.

0:57:03 > 0:57:05Property gone on the open market today would be

0:57:05 > 0:57:07marketed about 99,500.

0:57:07 > 0:57:10In the current market climate it should get very, very

0:57:10 > 0:57:11close to the asking price.

0:57:11 > 0:57:14I think the property could, potentially,

0:57:14 > 0:57:16sell for up to £100,000.

0:57:16 > 0:57:22So a potential profit of £30,000 minus the usual taxes and expenses.

0:57:22 > 0:57:25It's not bad for two months' work, is it?

0:57:27 > 0:57:31Well, I couldn't disagree with that. What about the rentals?

0:57:31 > 0:57:35To secure a good quality tenant, £495 per calendar month.

0:57:35 > 0:57:39I would market the property at £450 per calendar month.

0:57:39 > 0:57:43Taking the average that would give Jazz a yield of just over 8%.

0:57:43 > 0:57:48That's a good return for what he invested in this property.

0:57:48 > 0:57:50I think it's a very good return.

0:57:50 > 0:57:55And what does Ajab think of his son's progress as a property developer?

0:57:55 > 0:57:58He's made so much money in two months, I think he's going

0:57:58 > 0:58:00to start looking for another one soon.

0:58:03 > 0:58:06Will we see some more fairy tale endings next time?

0:58:06 > 0:58:10- Yeah, or will they be more of a grim ending?- Oh, yeah.

0:58:10 > 0:58:11Only one way to find out,

0:58:11 > 0:58:13join us next time for more Homes Under The Hammer.

0:58:13 > 0:58:15- See you then.- Goodbye.- Goodbye.