Episode 10

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0:00:02 > 0:00:03Hello, and welcome to the show.

0:00:03 > 0:00:04Many people like the thought

0:00:04 > 0:00:07of having a nice large property portfolio -

0:00:07 > 0:00:09but it doesn't have to be as grand as it sounds.

0:00:09 > 0:00:12No, for a relatively small amount of money you can get started

0:00:12 > 0:00:17and get that all-important foot on the property development ladder,

0:00:17 > 0:00:19and one good place to get yourself a bargain

0:00:19 > 0:00:21is down at your local property auction.

0:00:47 > 0:00:50Because of the variety of property available,

0:00:50 > 0:00:53the auction house can be the ideal place

0:00:53 > 0:00:55if you are looking to get value for money -

0:00:55 > 0:00:58that's if you're trying to make a living out of it, that is.

0:00:58 > 0:01:02Yes. But if you get your finances sorted and do your research,

0:01:02 > 0:01:05then there is no reason why it can't be a success.

0:01:05 > 0:01:07So here's what inspired the buyers on today's show.

0:01:09 > 0:01:12We return to a plot of land in the Welsh countryside

0:01:12 > 0:01:16I first saw in 2014 which had a slight problem -

0:01:16 > 0:01:18it doesn't have any planning permission.

0:01:19 > 0:01:22While at this house in the West Midlands,

0:01:22 > 0:01:24I'm finding planning permission

0:01:24 > 0:01:25to be as easy as...

0:01:25 > 0:01:28One, two, three.

0:01:28 > 0:01:32I don't think Lucy will find planning is quite as straightforward

0:01:32 > 0:01:36at this former takeaway in Kent, because...

0:01:36 > 0:01:39This property is Grade II listed.

0:01:40 > 0:01:41With you the first time.

0:01:41 > 0:01:43All these properties have been sold at auction,

0:01:43 > 0:01:45and we'll find out who bought them

0:01:45 > 0:01:47and what they paid when they went under the hammer.

0:01:47 > 0:01:49All done.

0:01:52 > 0:01:56Back in 2014, I was in the Welsh valley of Ebbw Vale

0:01:56 > 0:01:59where I saw a plot that had a lot of potential

0:01:59 > 0:02:02and could teach you a few lessons along the way,

0:02:02 > 0:02:06even if you knew your ABCs when it came to property.

0:02:06 > 0:02:12Well, the auction lot I am here to see is very interesting indeed

0:02:12 > 0:02:15and yet it doesn't have a single brick.

0:02:15 > 0:02:17Well, that's not strictly true -

0:02:17 > 0:02:19I suppose it has the wall around it,

0:02:19 > 0:02:21but apart from that, what we're looking at is this.

0:02:21 > 0:02:26It's the site of a former primary school which has since relocated.

0:02:26 > 0:02:32Let's go and see. So, school was out and a potential development was in,

0:02:32 > 0:02:35on an acre site with a guide price of 45 grand,

0:02:35 > 0:02:39which means a square metre of this plot would cost -

0:02:39 > 0:02:40come on class, how much?

0:02:40 > 0:02:43That's right. Around 11 quid.

0:02:43 > 0:02:47Top marks! The plot had a lot going for it -

0:02:47 > 0:02:49flat site, stunning views of the Welsh valleys -

0:02:49 > 0:02:53in other words, a developer's playground.

0:02:53 > 0:02:57Apart from...the fact that currently,

0:02:57 > 0:02:59it doesn't have any planning permission.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02So, right now, it could just be this.

0:03:03 > 0:03:05# If this is it

0:03:05 > 0:03:08# All we have

0:03:08 > 0:03:13# I'll know I've done all I can... #

0:03:15 > 0:03:17It wasn't as bad as it sounds.

0:03:17 > 0:03:20Plans for land that has been built on previously

0:03:20 > 0:03:22are generally looked at favourably -

0:03:22 > 0:03:26so there was a decent chance that plans in one form or another

0:03:26 > 0:03:28would be granted permission.

0:03:28 > 0:03:32But that permission came with a sting in its tail.

0:03:32 > 0:03:34It's definitely in an area that can be developed for housing,

0:03:34 > 0:03:35so that is good news.

0:03:35 > 0:03:38There is a demand for the right kind of housing in this area.

0:03:38 > 0:03:40So again, that's good news.

0:03:40 > 0:03:42You'd probably get support from the local council and planners,

0:03:42 > 0:03:45and that is also good news. It's all looking pretty good,

0:03:45 > 0:03:47all pretty positive - but as usual, there is a bit of a "but".

0:03:47 > 0:03:52The "but" is that, in the contract, the exchange of contracts,

0:03:52 > 0:03:54the legal pack, it talks about an overage clause.

0:03:54 > 0:04:00What that means is that any uplift in the value of the land

0:04:00 > 0:04:03and as a result of getting planning permission,

0:04:03 > 0:04:07well, the vendor, in this case, the council, gets money back.

0:04:07 > 0:04:11The overage clause in this case is 50%.

0:04:11 > 0:04:14So 50% of any uplift in the value of land.

0:04:14 > 0:04:18Definitely something to factor into your calculations.

0:04:18 > 0:04:20# It's 50-50

0:04:20 > 0:04:24# I'm 50-50... #

0:04:24 > 0:04:27Say, hypothetically, you bought the land for 50,000

0:04:27 > 0:04:29and you were able to get planning permission granted

0:04:29 > 0:04:33which raised the value of the plot to 150 grand,

0:04:33 > 0:04:35that is an uplift of 100,000,

0:04:35 > 0:04:41of which you would need to repay the council 50%, in this case, 50 grand.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44Then again, a plot of this size could easily accommodate

0:04:44 > 0:04:4810 to 15 new-build houses, so the question was,

0:04:48 > 0:04:51would the numbers add up when it went under the hammer?

0:04:54 > 0:04:57That then brings us on to lot number 15.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00Previously had a guide of £25,000 plus.

0:05:00 > 0:05:02Now that's been increased.

0:05:02 > 0:05:05We're suggesting a guide of 45 plus on that now.

0:05:05 > 0:05:07Start me somewhere, anywhere you like,

0:05:07 > 0:05:10you can either start me at 45,000 or the old guide of 25.

0:05:10 > 0:05:1225, I'm looking for.

0:05:12 > 0:05:14Make it 20 if you want, just to get it going.

0:05:14 > 0:05:16Thank you very much, I've got you at 20. At 20,000 there.

0:05:16 > 0:05:18At 20 standing, at 20,000.

0:05:18 > 0:05:19Now 21, can I see?

0:05:19 > 0:05:21After some reluctance,

0:05:21 > 0:05:26bids exceed the original and revised guide prices to where we rejoin

0:05:26 > 0:05:29with the auctioneer looking for a £65,000 bid.

0:05:29 > 0:05:3365, 66, 67,

0:05:33 > 0:05:3568, 69 and 70.

0:05:35 > 0:05:3871, 72? 72, no.

0:05:38 > 0:05:40At £71,000.

0:05:40 > 0:05:43With you at 71. 72, new bidder.

0:05:43 > 0:05:4672, 73, 74, 74 standing.

0:05:46 > 0:05:4975, 76, no.

0:05:49 > 0:05:53At £75,000, then, with you for the first time.

0:05:53 > 0:05:55Second time. Shout if I can't see you.

0:05:55 > 0:05:59Third and last time at £75,000.

0:05:59 > 0:06:01Yours, number 25, thank you very much.

0:06:01 > 0:06:04We'll have somebody down with you shortly.

0:06:04 > 0:06:09So, the former school plot went for 75 grand to Darren,

0:06:09 > 0:06:11who is the MD of a building company.

0:06:11 > 0:06:13I wanted to find out what he had planned

0:06:13 > 0:06:16for this plot with no planning permission.

0:06:17 > 0:06:18Why did you want to buy it?

0:06:18 > 0:06:20The purpose of purchasing the land

0:06:20 > 0:06:22was to develop it into social housing.

0:06:22 > 0:06:24- Oh, right. - We are a construction company,

0:06:24 > 0:06:26so we want to do the build

0:06:26 > 0:06:29and then sell the lot on to a social landlord.

0:06:29 > 0:06:32Why straight into social housing? Why not other types of housing?

0:06:32 > 0:06:35It is to do more with the location, the affordability.

0:06:35 > 0:06:39Properties in this area will only sustain a certain value -

0:06:39 > 0:06:41and from our point of view, in terms of risk profile,

0:06:41 > 0:06:44while we have the risk of purchasing the land at auction,

0:06:44 > 0:06:45it gives us a surety of our outcome.

0:06:45 > 0:06:47So tell me exactly how it works, then.

0:06:47 > 0:06:49You have approached somebody already

0:06:49 > 0:06:51and said, "Look, this is the land we've got now."

0:06:51 > 0:06:53Tell me about the process.

0:06:53 > 0:06:55It's to do with the intelligence of the area.

0:06:55 > 0:06:56We're a local contractor,

0:06:56 > 0:06:58so we approach the various bodies in the area

0:06:58 > 0:07:00and ask what sort of properties they're looking for,

0:07:00 > 0:07:02numbers of properties, areas.

0:07:02 > 0:07:05So we've done quite a lot of research in the background.

0:07:05 > 0:07:07So then we took that to one or two housing associations,

0:07:07 > 0:07:10got an expression of interest - so the risk still stays with us,

0:07:10 > 0:07:12but when we went to auction we were bidding

0:07:12 > 0:07:13with a degree of confidence

0:07:13 > 0:07:15that we knew we had an interested party at the end.

0:07:15 > 0:07:20The plans that had them interested were for 14 two- and three-bedroom

0:07:20 > 0:07:21semidetached properties,

0:07:21 > 0:07:26surrounded by the old retaining school wall to create a secure,

0:07:26 > 0:07:29almost gated development.

0:07:29 > 0:07:32And although it did not have huge profit potential,

0:07:32 > 0:07:34it was invaluable to the local area.

0:07:34 > 0:07:41A typical four-person, three-bedroom house is about 120,000 in this area.

0:07:41 > 0:07:44The money is not huge in terms of the investment for the land

0:07:44 > 0:07:46or, indeed, the build costs.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49It is about £1 million all in.

0:07:49 > 0:07:50And what's the end value?

0:07:50 > 0:07:54The end build-out value will be closer to 1.6 million.

0:07:54 > 0:07:57- OK.- Obviously that will be retained by the housing association,

0:07:57 > 0:08:00they will sell some on privately and hold some,

0:08:00 > 0:08:02but effectively, they are putting the cash in

0:08:02 > 0:08:04for the build, so that's their benefit.

0:08:04 > 0:08:06We get a modest construction profit,

0:08:06 > 0:08:08we get a small profit on the land sale to cover our fees

0:08:08 > 0:08:12and the time that we invest in the land development appraisals,

0:08:12 > 0:08:15and then they get the retained value long-term.

0:08:15 > 0:08:17Right. It sounds like a win-win all round.

0:08:17 > 0:08:20It is a good formula but you need to have the wherewithal and knowledge

0:08:20 > 0:08:22and experience to do it, really.

0:08:22 > 0:08:24And it will also generate some good employment opportunities,

0:08:24 > 0:08:26which is part of the deal you would strike up

0:08:26 > 0:08:29with the housing association, that we employ locally,

0:08:29 > 0:08:31and obviously get some apprentices training on the site, as well.

0:08:31 > 0:08:34Fantastic. So are you looking forward to doing this?

0:08:34 > 0:08:39Yes, it's a really exciting project and it's really needed in the area.

0:08:39 > 0:08:41Wherewithal, knowledge and experience

0:08:41 > 0:08:42would only get you so far -

0:08:42 > 0:08:46but before they could get started, Darren and his company

0:08:46 > 0:08:49would have to get that all-important planning consent.

0:08:49 > 0:08:54We returned almost two years later to see if they had.

0:08:54 > 0:08:58# So please say you'll meet me

0:08:58 > 0:09:00# Meet me halfway... #

0:09:03 > 0:09:06A year after Darren had hoped to have finished building,

0:09:06 > 0:09:09the housing project was still a work in progress.

0:09:09 > 0:09:12One reason being, planning took a year to come through,

0:09:12 > 0:09:16and when it did, Darren had to address the overage clause.

0:09:18 > 0:09:21We had the land valued by an independent estate agent

0:09:21 > 0:09:23and they valued the site at about 100,000.

0:09:23 > 0:09:25When the local authority valued it,

0:09:25 > 0:09:28it came back as double, so they used the district valuer,

0:09:28 > 0:09:30who works for the Welsh Government.

0:09:30 > 0:09:31That gave us a problem of £100,000

0:09:31 > 0:09:33where the local authority were saying

0:09:33 > 0:09:35the land was worth 200,000,

0:09:35 > 0:09:38and both ours and our respectful client were saying 100.

0:09:38 > 0:09:41We have had to take that to the RICS,

0:09:41 > 0:09:43the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors.

0:09:43 > 0:09:45They are now determining who is correct.

0:09:45 > 0:09:48We're still awaiting that decision,

0:09:48 > 0:09:50but what we had to do to get the scheme to progress

0:09:50 > 0:09:53was we had to pay the money to the local authority

0:09:53 > 0:09:56so they would remove the covenant on the land.

0:09:56 > 0:09:58So, currently there is a significant sum

0:09:58 > 0:10:01deposited with the local authority.

0:10:01 > 0:10:02If we win the argument,

0:10:02 > 0:10:04the money will come back to us as the contractor.

0:10:04 > 0:10:08If the authority win the argument, the money stays with them.

0:10:08 > 0:10:12It is a very punitive clause within the contract.

0:10:12 > 0:10:15For other potential would-be developers

0:10:15 > 0:10:16looking at this type of deal,

0:10:16 > 0:10:19it is something they really need to take very seriously

0:10:19 > 0:10:20and take a lot of advice on.

0:10:20 > 0:10:24With £100,000 of the budget in limbo,

0:10:24 > 0:10:27there were further costly complications.

0:10:28 > 0:10:31We had assumed that the wall foundation was a lot lower

0:10:31 > 0:10:34than it actually was, so when we did the reduced level dig

0:10:34 > 0:10:36to get to the foundations for the flats,

0:10:36 > 0:10:39we realised there was a problem with the retaining structure

0:10:39 > 0:10:41which, if it was a small wall,

0:10:41 > 0:10:44wouldn't be such an issue but it's retaining a mountain!

0:10:44 > 0:10:48So we had to underpin the wall and we put just shy of 3,000 blocks,

0:10:48 > 0:10:50concrete blocks, into the wall to stabilise it

0:10:50 > 0:10:51and allow us to build the flats.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54That was a bit of an unknown,

0:10:54 > 0:10:57it has cost about £15,000 to deal with that problem,

0:10:57 > 0:11:00but thankfully it's an engineering solution

0:11:00 > 0:11:01that has resolved the problem

0:11:01 > 0:11:04and we've managed to move on with the rest of the scheme.

0:11:04 > 0:11:07When we last saw Darren, he was £1 million

0:11:07 > 0:11:10into his £1.7 million contract with the client,

0:11:10 > 0:11:14and the housing scheme now contained a total of 15 units

0:11:14 > 0:11:16which was made up of an adapted bungalow

0:11:16 > 0:11:20and a mixture of one-bedroom flats and two and three-bedroom semis.

0:11:22 > 0:11:24Since the project was now running smoothly,

0:11:24 > 0:11:27Darren had ideas about a change of career.

0:11:28 > 0:11:31At the entrance to the site, we have to move a telegraph pole,

0:11:31 > 0:11:33with one telephone line on it.

0:11:33 > 0:11:35We're only moving the pole about

0:11:35 > 0:11:38six metres up the road and reinstating it.

0:11:38 > 0:11:42Within our costings, we'd allowed about £1,000 to do that,

0:11:42 > 0:11:46but it has to be done by the company that own the pole.

0:11:46 > 0:11:49We've now been presented with a bill for £14,500,

0:11:49 > 0:11:51so I'm thinking of moving out of house-building

0:11:51 > 0:11:54and becoming a full-time telegraph pole mover!

0:11:54 > 0:11:57A change of career must have been very tempting.

0:11:57 > 0:11:59What a site for throwing up unexpected

0:11:59 > 0:12:01and very expensive issues.

0:12:01 > 0:12:05Find out later in the programme if there were any more surprises

0:12:05 > 0:12:08for Darren when we come back five months on.

0:12:14 > 0:12:18The West Midlands, now, and the town of Bloxwich.

0:12:18 > 0:12:21Bloxwich's neighbouring town is Walsall.

0:12:21 > 0:12:24Traditionally, there has been a rivalry between them

0:12:24 > 0:12:26dating back to the English Civil War.

0:12:26 > 0:12:31Bloxwich was Royalist, Walsall, Parliamentarian.

0:12:31 > 0:12:34The modern day has seen some investment in the town centre,

0:12:34 > 0:12:37and it has good transport links to Birmingham.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41So, I'm about a mile away from the town centre,

0:12:41 > 0:12:44and the lot I'm here to see has got...

0:12:44 > 0:12:46off-street parking.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49Yes, it's not huge, it's not in great condition,

0:12:49 > 0:12:52but it's off-street parking, which is always a bonus.

0:12:52 > 0:12:56The house itself is also set back off the road quite a distance, too,

0:12:56 > 0:12:59and you've got a shared drive.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01Right, the house is semidetached,

0:13:01 > 0:13:06it's got three bedrooms and a guide price of £75,000 plus.

0:13:06 > 0:13:09I'm excited about this one. Let's hope the inside doesn't let me down.

0:13:09 > 0:13:11Let's take a look.

0:13:11 > 0:13:14- # Don't let me down - Don't let me down

0:13:14 > 0:13:16# Don't let me down now

0:13:16 > 0:13:20# Don't let me down Don't let me down now

0:13:20 > 0:13:23# Don't let me down... #

0:13:23 > 0:13:25OK.

0:13:26 > 0:13:29OK, on the odd occasion, when you come into a property,

0:13:29 > 0:13:34it's not what you see that hits you first, it's what you smell.

0:13:34 > 0:13:39And I can smell damp, I can smell... mildew and mould,

0:13:39 > 0:13:41that's the first thing that hits you.

0:13:41 > 0:13:44Anyway, there are the stairs going up to the bedrooms,

0:13:44 > 0:13:46you've got a decent-sized hallway.

0:13:46 > 0:13:50Across the hallway, into the first reception room,

0:13:50 > 0:13:52and I can see there's a radiator here

0:13:52 > 0:13:55so there's obviously some central heating in here.

0:13:55 > 0:13:59An old-fashioned fireplace. That, if you like a fireplace,

0:13:59 > 0:14:02you might want to tidy it up and keep it.

0:14:02 > 0:14:03For me, I'd get rid of it.

0:14:03 > 0:14:08But there's loads more signs over in the bay window

0:14:08 > 0:14:11of the mould and the damp.

0:14:11 > 0:14:15It just feels like this place has had no airflow for some time.

0:14:17 > 0:14:20With so much mould, it needs a specialist to sort it out.

0:14:20 > 0:14:22# I can't get rid of you... #

0:14:22 > 0:14:25You really don't want this stuff in your house.

0:14:25 > 0:14:29Mould infiltrates and damages the fabric of the building

0:14:29 > 0:14:31and it can also be responsible

0:14:31 > 0:14:34for sinus, skin and breathing conditions.

0:14:34 > 0:14:38# I don't even know who is growing on who

0:14:38 > 0:14:39# Yeah, yeah... #

0:14:39 > 0:14:41And it's not just at the front of the house.

0:14:41 > 0:14:44# Cos everywhere I go you're there... #

0:14:44 > 0:14:46It's in the back reception and small kitchen,

0:14:46 > 0:14:48which needs a complete overhaul.

0:14:48 > 0:14:51So maybe it's a good idea to take out that wall and open it

0:14:51 > 0:14:54out into the second reception room,

0:14:54 > 0:14:57checking if it's a weight-bearing wall, of course.

0:14:57 > 0:15:01# I want to touch you but I'm afraid of the consequences

0:15:01 > 0:15:04# I want to banish you from whence you came

0:15:04 > 0:15:06# But you're part of me now

0:15:06 > 0:15:09# And I've only got myself to blame. #

0:15:09 > 0:15:12Upstairs, that moisture has affected the walls and the ceilings,

0:15:12 > 0:15:15in the bathroom and the bedrooms, too.

0:15:18 > 0:15:20OK, in this bedroom...

0:15:20 > 0:15:23Now, I'd like to tell you something different,

0:15:23 > 0:15:26but it's the same as most of the rooms in this house.

0:15:26 > 0:15:30There's cobwebs everywhere, it needs redecorating.

0:15:30 > 0:15:33It's got a fireplace, as well, which you'd want to take out.

0:15:33 > 0:15:35There's no flooring in, either.

0:15:35 > 0:15:38But there is one thing I'd like to show you.

0:15:40 > 0:15:42Now, take a look at that ceiling.

0:15:42 > 0:15:46Now, that's a shade you won't find on any colour chart.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49It's certainly not pure, brilliant white,

0:15:49 > 0:15:52but I'm not waving the white flag at this property just yet.

0:15:52 > 0:15:57I'm heading outside for a bit of fresh air and a fresh perspective.

0:15:57 > 0:15:59So, out into the back garden.

0:15:59 > 0:16:01Now, there's a bit of mess out here.

0:16:01 > 0:16:04Before I talk about what I've got in here,

0:16:04 > 0:16:06look at the size of this back garden.

0:16:06 > 0:16:08It goes back some distance.

0:16:08 > 0:16:11Yes, it's on split levels, but you've got loads of space out here.

0:16:11 > 0:16:13You've got an outbuilding, as well.

0:16:13 > 0:16:15But the interesting thing is...

0:16:15 > 0:16:18all this space here.

0:16:18 > 0:16:23You can come out three metres within permitted development

0:16:23 > 0:16:25without planning permission.

0:16:25 > 0:16:31You can also go a further one, two, three metres to six metres

0:16:31 > 0:16:34within permitted development.

0:16:34 > 0:16:38But you would have to undergo neighbourhood consultation

0:16:38 > 0:16:43before that happens. What I'm trying to say is - it's huge out here.

0:16:43 > 0:16:45There's loads of potential.

0:16:45 > 0:16:49# Do you see what I see? #

0:16:51 > 0:16:53Well, let's see if an agent from the auction house

0:16:53 > 0:16:55who marketed this property

0:16:55 > 0:16:58agrees with my plans for a large extension here.

0:16:59 > 0:17:01Once one starts to extend,

0:17:01 > 0:17:03if you're not careful,

0:17:03 > 0:17:07you can push the potential value up

0:17:07 > 0:17:10beyond the ceiling for the area.

0:17:10 > 0:17:12If you're going to extend it here,

0:17:12 > 0:17:16I would probably be inclined just to sort of take it out

0:17:16 > 0:17:20at six to eight feet out the back, to make a larger kitchen.

0:17:20 > 0:17:23And a larger sort of rear reception room.

0:17:23 > 0:17:26I think any further than that,

0:17:26 > 0:17:32you're starting to become expensive, and not what people really want,

0:17:32 > 0:17:35because they end up living in a tunnel.

0:17:35 > 0:17:37You could offset that feeling of a tunnel

0:17:37 > 0:17:39by including skylight windows,

0:17:39 > 0:17:42but that would add thousands to the build cost.

0:17:42 > 0:17:44Despite the sheer amount of work needed here,

0:17:44 > 0:17:46is there light at the end of the tunnel

0:17:46 > 0:17:51regarding resale value for this house guided at £75,000 plus?

0:17:51 > 0:17:56I would imagine that your price would realise, currently,

0:17:56 > 0:17:59in the region of £175,000 to £180,000.

0:18:01 > 0:18:02Right.

0:18:04 > 0:18:08This is a good-sized property, but it needs an awful lot of work doing.

0:18:08 > 0:18:11The kitchen's a bit on the small side, you need a new bathroom.

0:18:11 > 0:18:15Basically, you've got to start again and modernise this place up.

0:18:15 > 0:18:19But potentially it could be a lovely family home.

0:18:19 > 0:18:21Let's see who went for it when it went under the hammer.

0:18:21 > 0:18:25A three-bedroom freehold semidetached house.

0:18:25 > 0:18:26Guide's increased to 75.

0:18:26 > 0:18:27We will go past that.

0:18:27 > 0:18:29Shall we start there?

0:18:29 > 0:18:31For 75,000, and thank you.

0:18:31 > 0:18:3375,000, my bid is at 80 now.

0:18:33 > 0:18:3580, thank you. 85?

0:18:35 > 0:18:3685 from you, sir.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39Thank you, 85. And 90?

0:18:39 > 0:18:4090, is it, sir?

0:18:40 > 0:18:42It may have been towards the end of the day,

0:18:42 > 0:18:46but there was still a few interested bidders for this lot.

0:18:46 > 0:18:48We rejoin at 130 grand.

0:18:48 > 0:18:51130. 135? 140.

0:18:51 > 0:18:56No. You've been a great bidder, sir, but it's now with you.

0:18:56 > 0:18:57Can I just see that number?

0:18:57 > 0:18:59Number 446.

0:18:59 > 0:19:01Make no mistake.

0:19:01 > 0:19:02Are we all done?

0:19:02 > 0:19:06One, two, three.

0:19:06 > 0:19:08446, that property is now yours, sir.

0:19:08 > 0:19:11Actually, the house doesn't belong to the bidder.

0:19:11 > 0:19:15It was bought by son, Pinder, for 135 grand.

0:19:15 > 0:19:19Pinder is a business analyst, and he's taken his first steps

0:19:19 > 0:19:23into the property developing world - with help from his dad, of course.

0:19:23 > 0:19:25Rather than meet inside the mouldy house,

0:19:25 > 0:19:27we headed outside for some fresh air

0:19:27 > 0:19:29and some sunshine in the back garden,

0:19:29 > 0:19:32to have a chat about his plans for this property.

0:19:32 > 0:19:34- Pinder.- Dion, nice to meet you.

0:19:34 > 0:19:36- Nice to meet you too, young man. - Nice to see you.- Congratulations.

0:19:36 > 0:19:39- Thank you.- What was it about this particular house

0:19:39 > 0:19:42that sucked you into buying it?

0:19:42 > 0:19:45This house is in such a good location -

0:19:45 > 0:19:47and also, the school, as well.

0:19:47 > 0:19:50I mean, that would be a pull for a lot of families and stuff, so...

0:19:50 > 0:19:53that's why we thought this could be quite a lucrative adventure for us.

0:19:53 > 0:19:56Do you know this area? Are you from this area?

0:19:56 > 0:19:58- We're actually from Coventry. - Are you really?

0:19:58 > 0:20:00Massive fans of yours, Dion. Always have been...

0:20:00 > 0:20:02Listen, I knew I had one somewhere.

0:20:02 > 0:20:04Yeah, well... I think there's quite a few of us.

0:20:04 > 0:20:07- More than you'd expect.- Oh, good.

0:20:07 > 0:20:14# Reaching into the deepest shade of sky blue... #

0:20:14 > 0:20:16As a Sky Blues fan from Coventry...

0:20:16 > 0:20:18# Sky blue... #

0:20:18 > 0:20:21..Pinder will have about an hour's commute there and back

0:20:21 > 0:20:24when he's working on the house - but he won't be doing it alone.

0:20:26 > 0:20:31# So many miles away from home. #

0:20:31 > 0:20:34His dad Ragbir will be project-managing,

0:20:34 > 0:20:37and together, they've got big plans.

0:20:37 > 0:20:40We're looking to do a rear extension, five metres,

0:20:40 > 0:20:44- and really...- Wow.- ..make a big, like kitchen-diner sort of effect.

0:20:44 > 0:20:45- Yeah, yeah...- Yeah.

0:20:45 > 0:20:48The plan's granted that we're able to also...

0:20:48 > 0:20:50The brick garage here,

0:20:50 > 0:20:52we're looking to make that into, into a flat, there,

0:20:52 > 0:20:57- so a self-contained...- Really? - ..kitchen and en suite, as well.

0:20:57 > 0:21:00- Wow.- And furthermore, within the house we're also looking to do

0:21:00 > 0:21:03a loft conversion, as well. So it would be a four-bedroom...

0:21:03 > 0:21:05- Wow.- ..with a large extension...

0:21:05 > 0:21:06Extension, as well.

0:21:06 > 0:21:09Kitchen-diner and the flat, as well.

0:21:09 > 0:21:11Which is currently the brick garage.

0:21:11 > 0:21:13We're looking to maximise profit here, really.

0:21:13 > 0:21:15But what about the ceiling price in the area?

0:21:15 > 0:21:18- Have you checked that?- Yeah, we spoke to some local estate agents,

0:21:18 > 0:21:21and we've got some figures back on the plans that we want.

0:21:21 > 0:21:23But I'm a pretty optimistic guy, to be honest with you, Dion.

0:21:23 > 0:21:26Yeah, I mean, these are plans that we've got in place.

0:21:26 > 0:21:28- Yeah.- We've probably got B plans and C plans, as well.

0:21:28 > 0:21:31- OK, that's good. - If they don't come to fruition

0:21:31 > 0:21:34or if we want to change it, like you said,

0:21:34 > 0:21:36you talked about ceiling prices, as well,

0:21:36 > 0:21:39so they're all something that we had to take in to consider,

0:21:39 > 0:21:41but we probably will go ahead with plan A.

0:21:41 > 0:21:44How much is in the budget for plan A?

0:21:44 > 0:21:46What are you going to spend?

0:21:46 > 0:21:49We'd like to spend around 40,000.

0:21:49 > 0:21:52Hopefully we could get all the work done within that.

0:21:52 > 0:21:55- OK.- I know my dad's used tradespeople before...

0:21:55 > 0:21:59- OK.- ..and he normally gets a good price with them, so...

0:21:59 > 0:22:01That's a great thing.

0:22:01 > 0:22:02Pinder's dad Ragbir,

0:22:02 > 0:22:04who is going to be project-managing,

0:22:04 > 0:22:08has a lot of experience in building and has lots of useful contacts.

0:22:08 > 0:22:10We may bring some people from Coventry.

0:22:10 > 0:22:13He also knows people in Birmingham as well, which is close to Walsall,

0:22:13 > 0:22:16- which is pretty handy, as well. - Yeah. So he is well connected?

0:22:16 > 0:22:20Yeah, he's a pretty connected, clued-up guy, my dad...

0:22:20 > 0:22:22How long is all the work going to take?

0:22:22 > 0:22:25We're looking in the region of six months.

0:22:25 > 0:22:29Maybe a bit less. That's probably a bit of a conservative one, so yes,

0:22:29 > 0:22:31six months to do all the work,

0:22:31 > 0:22:33and hopefully we can get it back on the market

0:22:33 > 0:22:37and maybe look for a resale, or rental.

0:22:37 > 0:22:40There's nothing about this for a first venture that's worrying you?

0:22:40 > 0:22:42I know you've got your dad by your side, haven't you?

0:22:42 > 0:22:44- Yeah.- Which is handy, isn't it?

0:22:44 > 0:22:46Yeah. At the moment, nothing's worrying me.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49But we'll see, a couple of months down the line.

0:22:49 > 0:22:51- Could all change! - I might be ringing you, Dion.

0:22:51 > 0:22:53What do I do with this? What do I do with that?

0:22:53 > 0:22:58Exactly! So, is this the start of your property developing life?

0:22:58 > 0:23:00We'll see how this venture goes.

0:23:00 > 0:23:03Take one step at a time -

0:23:03 > 0:23:05but I would like to get into property,

0:23:05 > 0:23:10and it could be a career for me if I'm successful at it.

0:23:10 > 0:23:12- I wish you all the best. - Thank you very much, Dion.

0:23:12 > 0:23:14- Good luck.- Nice to meet you. - Thank you.

0:23:14 > 0:23:19I think this is a pretty big house to take on as a first project,

0:23:19 > 0:23:21but Pinder's got big ideas.

0:23:21 > 0:23:24Extension out the back here, self-contained building here.

0:23:24 > 0:23:28All I can say is, it's a good job he's got his experienced dad there

0:23:28 > 0:23:30by his side just to help him along.

0:23:30 > 0:23:32But has he taken on too much?

0:23:32 > 0:23:34Well, you can find on how he gets on later in the programme.

0:23:36 > 0:23:39Coming up, Lucy visits a former takeaway in Kent,

0:23:39 > 0:23:43but I don't think she can stomach the interior.

0:23:43 > 0:23:46I wouldn't fancy ordering my food here as it is at the moment.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50And find out if Pinder still has the hunger for property

0:23:50 > 0:23:52after his first renovation.

0:23:52 > 0:23:54Hopefully I'll be able to take on this experience

0:23:54 > 0:23:56and take it to another project.

0:23:59 > 0:24:04But first, back to a site I first visited in 2014.

0:24:04 > 0:24:08This plot of land in Ebbw Vale had once been home to a school.

0:24:08 > 0:24:11It had a rather nice retaining wall,

0:24:11 > 0:24:12and, at an acre in size,

0:24:12 > 0:24:16the 45-grand guide price was very appealing.

0:24:17 > 0:24:19Apart from the fact...

0:24:19 > 0:24:23currently, it doesn't have any planning permission.

0:24:23 > 0:24:27So right now... Well, it could just be this.

0:24:27 > 0:24:29There were definitely some pros and cons with this lot.

0:24:29 > 0:24:32As there had been a building here previously,

0:24:32 > 0:24:36getting planning permission was arguably quite likely -

0:24:36 > 0:24:38but the overage clause in the contract

0:24:38 > 0:24:41meant that if and when the planning permission was granted,

0:24:41 > 0:24:4350% of any increase in the value of the land

0:24:43 > 0:24:46would need to be repaid to the seller,

0:24:46 > 0:24:49which was, in this case, the local council.

0:24:49 > 0:24:52Weighing up the options was successful bidder Darren,

0:24:52 > 0:24:57who was a local building contractor and paid £75,000 for the site.

0:24:59 > 0:25:01Why did you want to buy it?

0:25:01 > 0:25:04The purpose of purchasing the land was to develop into social housing.

0:25:04 > 0:25:07- Oh, right.- We are a construction company,

0:25:07 > 0:25:08so we want to do the build

0:25:08 > 0:25:11and then sell the lot on to a social landlord.

0:25:11 > 0:25:14And we'll also generate some good employment opportunities,

0:25:14 > 0:25:16which is part of the deal that you would strike up

0:25:16 > 0:25:17with the housing association -

0:25:17 > 0:25:20that we employ locally, and we'll obviously get some apprentices

0:25:20 > 0:25:22- training on the site, as well. - Oh, fantastic.

0:25:22 > 0:25:27Darren and his company had plans to build 14 two- and three-bed semis -

0:25:27 > 0:25:31and when we returned almost two years later, work was well underway.

0:25:34 > 0:25:36But it was a delay in the planning process

0:25:36 > 0:25:41that had seen work unable to start until a year into the project.

0:25:41 > 0:25:45Once the planning was granted, the overage clause had to be addressed.

0:25:46 > 0:25:49We had the land valued by an independent estate agent

0:25:49 > 0:25:52and they valued the site at about 100,000.

0:25:52 > 0:25:55When the local authority valued it, it came back as double.

0:25:55 > 0:25:58So they used the district valuer, works for the Welsh Government,

0:25:58 > 0:26:01that gave us a problem of 100,000

0:26:01 > 0:26:04where the local authority was saying the land was worth 200,000

0:26:04 > 0:26:07and both ours and our respectful client was saying 100.

0:26:07 > 0:26:09In order to get on with the work,

0:26:09 > 0:26:13Darren and his company lodged the money for the overage costs,

0:26:13 > 0:26:16with the final decision resting in the hands

0:26:16 > 0:26:19of the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors.

0:26:19 > 0:26:21The shells of the buildings were up,

0:26:21 > 0:26:23and Darren and his team were on track

0:26:23 > 0:26:25to complete the project in the next few months.

0:26:25 > 0:26:29So when we returned five months on, did they manage it?

0:26:39 > 0:26:43It's a far cry from the empty lot that was here to start.

0:26:43 > 0:26:45There's a fantastic little cul-de-sac

0:26:45 > 0:26:49nestling in the rolling hills of the Welsh Valleys.

0:26:49 > 0:26:52There are now 15 dwellings in total.

0:26:52 > 0:26:55For starters, there's four one-bedroom flats,

0:26:55 > 0:26:59ten semidetached two- and three-bedroom properties,

0:26:59 > 0:27:01each with a bathroom and shower room,

0:27:01 > 0:27:04making them ideal for family living.

0:27:05 > 0:27:08All the houses are designed to Welsh Government requirements.

0:27:08 > 0:27:11The rooms all feel nice and spacious.

0:27:11 > 0:27:16Going outside, there's even some private garden space at the rear.

0:27:16 > 0:27:19They've also been built to sustainable homes standards

0:27:19 > 0:27:22and have rainwater harvesting systems installed.

0:27:22 > 0:27:25And finally, property 15 is a bungalow

0:27:25 > 0:27:27designed with disabled access.

0:27:28 > 0:27:32The ceilings are structurally reinforced to support hoists

0:27:32 > 0:27:36and the large kitchen-diner has rise-and-fall units

0:27:36 > 0:27:37for wheelchair access.

0:27:37 > 0:27:40The bathroom has also been specially adapted,

0:27:40 > 0:27:42with hoists and a rise-and-fall bath.

0:27:44 > 0:27:47Darren and his team have created some cracking homes,

0:27:47 > 0:27:50built in 41 weeks after the planning permission was sorted -

0:27:50 > 0:27:54and now it's time for Darren to hand the reins over to his son, Cole,

0:27:54 > 0:27:58who will be responsible for the aftercare phase of the project.

0:27:58 > 0:28:01He'll be working closely with the housing association.

0:28:01 > 0:28:03We met up with both of them

0:28:03 > 0:28:06to find out what has been the biggest challenge on this project.

0:28:08 > 0:28:11The biggest challenge has been the weather.

0:28:11 > 0:28:14We're quite high up in the Welsh Valleys,

0:28:14 > 0:28:16so temperatures do get extremely low in this area,

0:28:16 > 0:28:18so working through the winter

0:28:18 > 0:28:20and finishing a project in the winter is not ideal.

0:28:20 > 0:28:22You wouldn't normally plan it that way.

0:28:22 > 0:28:25It was dictated to us from when we had planning permission

0:28:25 > 0:28:27to when we could start the sites.

0:28:27 > 0:28:29The construction, by and large, has gone quite well,

0:28:29 > 0:28:31so there's been no real issues there -

0:28:31 > 0:28:32but, at the end of the project,

0:28:32 > 0:28:34it's all the little things that you have to do,

0:28:34 > 0:28:36getting the various approvals, getting the sign-offs,

0:28:36 > 0:28:39getting the quality right, to get the project over the line.

0:28:39 > 0:28:42So, I think, probably the biggest challenge for us

0:28:42 > 0:28:46has been working through the winter and the wet and the cold months.

0:28:46 > 0:28:48If the Welsh weather has been the biggest issue,

0:28:48 > 0:28:52does that mean that the overage case was resolved?

0:28:52 > 0:28:54Well, the final chapter on the overage clause,

0:28:54 > 0:28:57it's been favourable on our behalf.

0:28:57 > 0:29:01The valuation that we sold the site for to our client has been verified

0:29:01 > 0:29:04by an independent surveyor,

0:29:04 > 0:29:07so it's actually set a bit of a benchmark case now.

0:29:07 > 0:29:11So, for us, the money that we had to deposit with the local authority

0:29:11 > 0:29:14to allow us to start the site will come back.

0:29:14 > 0:29:17'Between both parties now, we both think we've reached a fair deal.

0:29:17 > 0:29:19'It's in line with our costings,

0:29:19 > 0:29:21'which was the most important thing for us

0:29:21 > 0:29:23'as a commercial organisation.'

0:29:23 > 0:29:25Probably a bit disappointing for the local authority,

0:29:25 > 0:29:28but we'll all live and learn from it.

0:29:28 > 0:29:30Going forward, we all know the starting point

0:29:30 > 0:29:32for future developments.

0:29:32 > 0:29:33They got all the work done

0:29:33 > 0:29:36for just under the agreed contract value,

0:29:36 > 0:29:40with a client of 1.7 million, so they must be happy, too.

0:29:42 > 0:29:44I think the client's pretty pleased with the project...

0:29:44 > 0:29:47Cole now gets the problem, so, as the residents move in,

0:29:47 > 0:29:48we'll find out the truth.

0:29:48 > 0:29:51- I don't know what you think about that.- I think, ultimately,

0:29:51 > 0:29:55having had meetings with them recently to agree going forward

0:29:55 > 0:29:57the next 12 months of after-sales,

0:29:57 > 0:30:01they've definitely been impressed with our performance as a contractor

0:30:01 > 0:30:03and they've been extremely complimentary,

0:30:03 > 0:30:05and I guess ultimately the biggest marker

0:30:05 > 0:30:08that we can use to see if they're happy

0:30:08 > 0:30:12is the fact that they're looking at more projects with us in the future.

0:30:13 > 0:30:16With the client happy and residents due to move in shortly,

0:30:16 > 0:30:19let's see what two local estate agents thought of the new street,

0:30:19 > 0:30:23which cost just under £1.7 million to build,

0:30:23 > 0:30:27starting with the agent who saw this when it was just a plot.

0:30:30 > 0:30:33I'm impressed. What a difference.

0:30:33 > 0:30:35Absolutely fantastic.

0:30:35 > 0:30:38From when I came here first and just saw the yard.

0:30:38 > 0:30:40First impressions of the site

0:30:40 > 0:30:43is that it's produced to a very high standard.

0:30:43 > 0:30:45Unfortunately, it isn't the best of days,

0:30:45 > 0:30:47but the views from here are outstanding.

0:30:47 > 0:30:50If these properties were coming to the market with ourselves,

0:30:50 > 0:30:52which I just wish they were,

0:30:52 > 0:30:57I genuinely believe I would have a buyer on this very, very quickly.

0:30:57 > 0:31:00The conditions of the market haven't changed so much.

0:31:00 > 0:31:03And this is what they're looking for.

0:31:03 > 0:31:06This is exactly what they're looking for.

0:31:06 > 0:31:10Unfortunately for the agents these great houses won't be for sale,

0:31:10 > 0:31:13as they are owned by a local housing association,

0:31:13 > 0:31:16who'll be renting them out to people who need them most,

0:31:16 > 0:31:19at an affordable rate set by the Welsh Government.

0:31:19 > 0:31:22However, the agents did value the properties

0:31:22 > 0:31:25and thought in total they would be worth

0:31:25 > 0:31:29somewhere around the 1.5 and £1.6 million mark.

0:31:29 > 0:31:32So what do Darren and his son Cole think of the figures?

0:31:33 > 0:31:37I think the slightly higher value is more appropriate.

0:31:37 > 0:31:41It's more in line with what we are seeing locally,

0:31:41 > 0:31:45but equally, I think developments like this will help lift the values

0:31:45 > 0:31:46in the area. So progressively,

0:31:46 > 0:31:49as other people do similar work in the area now,

0:31:49 > 0:31:51it will help lift that band.

0:31:51 > 0:31:55The new housing scheme will have a positive impact on the area,

0:31:55 > 0:31:58but has there been a positive impact on the business?

0:31:59 > 0:32:01The positive things...

0:32:01 > 0:32:03It is our first turnkey development, from start.

0:32:03 > 0:32:06We bought the land, we led the design,

0:32:06 > 0:32:09we found our client and we built it out.

0:32:09 > 0:32:11So, to do a full, what we class as a turnkey development,

0:32:11 > 0:32:13that's a real positive aspect.

0:32:13 > 0:32:15And that's the way we want to go in the future.

0:32:18 > 0:32:23Off to Kent now, and Lucy is visiting a Sittingbourne suburb

0:32:23 > 0:32:25with a nice historical vibe.

0:32:26 > 0:32:29Less than a mile from the centre of Sittingbourne

0:32:29 > 0:32:32is the historic suburb of Milton Regis.

0:32:32 > 0:32:34Now, it has more of a villagey feel,

0:32:34 > 0:32:36but it still has plenty of local amenities.

0:32:36 > 0:32:39It's got a post office, a pub, a public library -

0:32:39 > 0:32:44and the property I'm here to see is right in the heart of Milton Regis.

0:32:44 > 0:32:47It was previously a takeaway on the ground floor,

0:32:47 > 0:32:50with living accommodation on the two upper floors.

0:32:50 > 0:32:52Here it is!

0:32:52 > 0:32:54Well, it's not just this one here.

0:32:54 > 0:32:56Oh, no! It's this one, as well.

0:32:56 > 0:33:01And all for a guide price of 85 to 90,000.

0:33:01 > 0:33:03I'm going to peek in.

0:33:05 > 0:33:07Inside you can tell straightaway

0:33:07 > 0:33:10this floor here was used as a hot food takeaway.

0:33:10 > 0:33:12Right here was the servery.

0:33:12 > 0:33:17And through here, I think this may have been the restaurant area.

0:33:17 > 0:33:20Wouldn't fancy ordering my food here as it is at the moment.

0:33:20 > 0:33:23Little bit tatty, and needs everything doing.

0:33:23 > 0:33:26Through here, you've got the kitchen area.

0:33:26 > 0:33:27That's quite a big space,

0:33:27 > 0:33:31and I'm sure some of that equipment still might work,

0:33:31 > 0:33:36but as a hot food takeaway, this floor has A5 business classing,

0:33:36 > 0:33:38which gives you more flexibility

0:33:38 > 0:33:41than if it had previously been used as a shop, for example.

0:33:41 > 0:33:44Now, that is because under current regulations

0:33:44 > 0:33:46you're allowed to convert it into a shop,

0:33:46 > 0:33:47a restaurant, or a cafe,

0:33:47 > 0:33:51without applying for change of use from the local authority.

0:33:51 > 0:33:55There are plenty of other commercial businesses all along this street,

0:33:55 > 0:33:57so I would advise doing your research

0:33:57 > 0:33:59and finding out what sort of business

0:33:59 > 0:34:01really would work best here.

0:34:03 > 0:34:06There's a lot on the menu with this auction lot.

0:34:06 > 0:34:09For starters, directly above the commercial unit

0:34:09 > 0:34:12is living accommodation that you could convert into flats.

0:34:12 > 0:34:16There are three rooms to the front of the building.

0:34:16 > 0:34:20One with no window connects the two at the other end.

0:34:20 > 0:34:24Through this room is a hall, which leads to a back bedroom,

0:34:24 > 0:34:28followed by a bathroom and finally, a larger room at the end.

0:34:30 > 0:34:33You could potentially do the same with the floor above,

0:34:33 > 0:34:34which has four rooms,

0:34:34 > 0:34:37although with no kitchen or bathroom.

0:34:37 > 0:34:40So, quite a bit of plumbing work would be required here.

0:34:41 > 0:34:45And on top of all that, you'd have to create separate access to them,

0:34:45 > 0:34:49because the only way to get up to the first and second floors

0:34:49 > 0:34:51is through the commercial unit.

0:34:53 > 0:34:56# There's no other way...

0:34:57 > 0:35:01# There's no other way

0:35:01 > 0:35:04# There's no other way... #

0:35:04 > 0:35:07There might be another way to look at this property,

0:35:07 > 0:35:10because out the back is not quite so charming.

0:35:10 > 0:35:14Apart from a mixed use of flats and commercial,

0:35:14 > 0:35:18what other option on the menu could we choose for this property?

0:35:18 > 0:35:21If you want to take this development further,

0:35:21 > 0:35:23what about taking this whole property

0:35:23 > 0:35:25and turning it into residential?

0:35:25 > 0:35:27How about a couple of houses?

0:35:27 > 0:35:30However, there is something I haven't told you yet

0:35:30 > 0:35:32that could affect planning permission here.

0:35:34 > 0:35:36This property is Grade II listed.

0:35:36 > 0:35:38Now, don't get too excited,

0:35:38 > 0:35:41because that means there'll be extra restrictions

0:35:41 > 0:35:45on any changes you want to make on the inside, as well as the outside.

0:35:46 > 0:35:48Restoring this building will be expensive

0:35:48 > 0:35:53and require many consultations with the local conservation officer,

0:35:53 > 0:35:57who has to make sure all work is sympathetic to the original design.

0:35:57 > 0:35:59# You can to try to please me

0:36:01 > 0:36:03# But it won't be easy

0:36:03 > 0:36:06# And you don't stand an outside chance

0:36:06 > 0:36:07# Don't stand an outside chance

0:36:07 > 0:36:12# You don't stand an outside chance but you can try. #

0:36:12 > 0:36:14Would it be worth the time and effort, though?

0:36:14 > 0:36:17Well, we asked a local estate agent along to give us an idea

0:36:17 > 0:36:19if local planning might consider

0:36:19 > 0:36:22a change of use on this listed building.

0:36:24 > 0:36:26# I know you think you'll get me... #

0:36:26 > 0:36:29Well, the conservation officer who would oversee this area

0:36:29 > 0:36:31is looking to retain the character

0:36:31 > 0:36:34and protect the integrity of the buildings that are here,

0:36:34 > 0:36:37but that doesn't mean to say that they're not going to be averse

0:36:37 > 0:36:38to a change of use

0:36:38 > 0:36:41and different uses out of the buildings that are here.

0:36:41 > 0:36:44I'd like to think that the planners would be quite amenable

0:36:44 > 0:36:46to a conversion back into residential accommodation,

0:36:46 > 0:36:49because that's originally what the building would've been.

0:36:49 > 0:36:53So, um, if they took an historic view,

0:36:53 > 0:36:56then it may very well be welcomed.

0:36:56 > 0:36:59The agent thinks a pair of four or five-bedroom houses

0:36:59 > 0:37:03would be a good option and would be likely to get approval.

0:37:03 > 0:37:05But there's a lot of work to do.

0:37:05 > 0:37:08Could the eventual sales figures stack up,

0:37:08 > 0:37:13even if you got it for around that £85-90,000 guide price?

0:37:13 > 0:37:17Well, I think these two houses would be really quite substantial units

0:37:17 > 0:37:19and could offer an awful lot of character,

0:37:19 > 0:37:21and I think, in that respect,

0:37:21 > 0:37:24and the potential values for these could be somewhere in the region

0:37:24 > 0:37:26of 230 to £250,000 for each unit.

0:37:27 > 0:37:30Well, there's certainly a lot of work to be done

0:37:30 > 0:37:33and there's plenty of space to play with, which is a bonus -

0:37:33 > 0:37:35and a number of options to consider, as well.

0:37:35 > 0:37:38So if you want to make the most of this internal space,

0:37:38 > 0:37:40you'll need to get the planners onside.

0:37:40 > 0:37:43Let's see who wanted to take away this property

0:37:43 > 0:37:45when we went to the auction.

0:37:45 > 0:37:47Another takeaway premises.

0:37:47 > 0:37:50But a big three-storey commercial residential,

0:37:50 > 0:37:52and well worth the refurb that's needed.

0:37:52 > 0:37:54Start me where you will on that one.

0:37:54 > 0:37:56Really attractive guide price, I thought.

0:37:56 > 0:37:59Give me 80, then. Got to start somewhere.

0:37:59 > 0:38:0180,000. 80,000, I'm obliged.

0:38:01 > 0:38:03At 82. 85.

0:38:03 > 0:38:0585. 87.

0:38:05 > 0:38:07I've got 85,000 and I'm looking for 87.

0:38:07 > 0:38:10You can't believe that it's going to be sold for that, but it will be.

0:38:10 > 0:38:12Now, we'll sell it for the first time.

0:38:12 > 0:38:14I will... 87, thank you.

0:38:14 > 0:38:1587.

0:38:15 > 0:38:17At 90. 92.

0:38:17 > 0:38:2192, 95. 95, 97?

0:38:21 > 0:38:2397. 97.

0:38:23 > 0:38:24And 100.

0:38:24 > 0:38:26102.

0:38:26 > 0:38:29102. And five. And seven.

0:38:29 > 0:38:31107.

0:38:31 > 0:38:34107. If you don't buy it, what are you going to do with those men

0:38:34 > 0:38:37that are booked to go in there Monday? 107, can I say?

0:38:37 > 0:38:40Well, if completed by Monday, of course. 107.

0:38:40 > 0:38:41110. 110.

0:38:41 > 0:38:44No? 108, then. Because you've been with it all this time.

0:38:44 > 0:38:47108. Put in a white swing instead of a coloured one,

0:38:47 > 0:38:49that'll save a grand. 108. 109.

0:38:49 > 0:38:52109. You could buy it for that.

0:38:52 > 0:38:53109. 110.

0:38:53 > 0:38:55Just £1,000 now.

0:38:55 > 0:38:59It's not a big gap. The first time then, at £109,000.

0:38:59 > 0:39:02Second time at £109,000.

0:39:02 > 0:39:03Third and final time.

0:39:03 > 0:39:07Yours at 109, G280. Thank you.

0:39:07 > 0:39:10The successful bidder paying £109,000 for this was Paul.

0:39:12 > 0:39:16Paul is an experienced builder who normally works in London.

0:39:16 > 0:39:19He met Lucy to discuss what he had planned

0:39:19 > 0:39:21for this Grade II listed building.

0:39:23 > 0:39:25Great to meet you today. Congratulations.

0:39:25 > 0:39:29- Thank you.- Now, I want to know why you wanted to buy this.

0:39:29 > 0:39:33Erm... I looked at it before the auction and...

0:39:33 > 0:39:36I didn't bother to investigate inside,

0:39:36 > 0:39:38or look into any of the details of it,

0:39:38 > 0:39:42but I turned up at the auction and the bidding was going so slowly

0:39:42 > 0:39:44that I bought it on impulse.

0:39:44 > 0:39:47- You just bought it for 109,000? - Yeah.

0:39:47 > 0:39:51Do you think you've got this sort of steal at £109,000?

0:39:51 > 0:39:52Is that what you wanted to buy it?

0:39:52 > 0:39:55Yeah, it's a lot of property for such small money.

0:39:55 > 0:39:57Have you bought anything else locally?

0:39:57 > 0:40:00- The shop next door.- You've bought the shop next door?- Yeah.

0:40:00 > 0:40:03Buying without viewing properly is something we always advise against,

0:40:03 > 0:40:06but Paul also paid 130 grand for the lot next door,

0:40:06 > 0:40:09which includes the barn at the back.

0:40:09 > 0:40:12- So when you came away on auction day...- Mm-hm?

0:40:12 > 0:40:14You'd spent all that money!

0:40:14 > 0:40:17- Yeah.- Were you a bit shocked and surprised?

0:40:17 > 0:40:18Yeah, I was a bit,

0:40:18 > 0:40:20because I hadn't gone there intending to buy it at all.

0:40:20 > 0:40:22So I'd just spent 200...

0:40:22 > 0:40:24You know, over a quarter of a million pounds.

0:40:24 > 0:40:27- Just on impulse. - So you've got quite a big plot

0:40:27 > 0:40:28if you add these two together.

0:40:28 > 0:40:31So come on, then. Tell me, what are your plans?

0:40:31 > 0:40:34Subject to planning, this will turn into two houses.

0:40:34 > 0:40:35The shop that I bought next door

0:40:35 > 0:40:37will turn into two three-bedroom houses,

0:40:37 > 0:40:40and hopefully the barn will turn into a pair of semis.

0:40:40 > 0:40:41How are you going to do that?

0:40:41 > 0:40:44And how are you going to do that without tampering too much?

0:40:44 > 0:40:46Because it is listed.

0:40:46 > 0:40:47It will actually improve it,

0:40:47 > 0:40:49because it was always two properties -

0:40:49 > 0:40:52and they took the spine wall out to make it into one.

0:40:52 > 0:40:54So, we'll put that back

0:40:54 > 0:40:57and that will improve the stability of the building.

0:40:57 > 0:41:00- So, not flats.- No, we originally thought about flats,

0:41:00 > 0:41:04but the council's policy is to turn shops into houses.

0:41:04 > 0:41:06Because it's listed,

0:41:06 > 0:41:08I'm sure you'll have a lot of involvement with the planners.

0:41:08 > 0:41:10Yeah. Yeah, the conservation officer...

0:41:10 > 0:41:12They'll be involved from the beginning,

0:41:12 > 0:41:15and we will get a lot of delays, you know,

0:41:15 > 0:41:18talking to them about what they will allow and what they won't allow.

0:41:18 > 0:41:21So you've also got to put in your mind and think about this,

0:41:21 > 0:41:23- it is on a busy high street.- Mm-hm.

0:41:23 > 0:41:24Obviously it's not that busy,

0:41:24 > 0:41:27- but you still get lots of passing traffic.- Yeah.

0:41:27 > 0:41:30You've got to think about the noise implications and the type of buyer.

0:41:30 > 0:41:31Who is going to want to buy this?

0:41:31 > 0:41:35Well... Because we're only five minutes' walk from the station,

0:41:35 > 0:41:37it's going to appeal to a lot of people that are commuting.

0:41:37 > 0:41:41People in London put a higher value on the interior.

0:41:41 > 0:41:43They don't mind traffic

0:41:43 > 0:41:45and they don't mind, you know - because they're used to it.

0:41:48 > 0:41:51Paul is allowing a budget of £80,000 per unit.

0:41:51 > 0:41:53And assuming planning permission is sorted,

0:41:53 > 0:41:56he hopes the work will take six months.

0:41:56 > 0:41:58It's a big project, but he's got history.

0:42:00 > 0:42:02My previous home was a scheduled monument when I took it on.

0:42:02 > 0:42:05And we renovated it into a very high standard,

0:42:05 > 0:42:07copied a lot of the period details,

0:42:07 > 0:42:10and that was under the control of English Heritage.

0:42:10 > 0:42:12So you really are interested in history?

0:42:12 > 0:42:16I mean, this is something that really excites you, isn't it?

0:42:16 > 0:42:18Yeah, you know...and most of the London properties

0:42:18 > 0:42:21are either Victorian or Georgian, so there's some history to it,

0:42:21 > 0:42:23so we're used to working on period properties.

0:42:23 > 0:42:25You are the man for the job.

0:42:25 > 0:42:28Good luck with this. Really lovely talking to you today, Paul.

0:42:28 > 0:42:31- OK.- Even though it was a crazy buy on impulse!

0:42:31 > 0:42:33- I think you've got a good one here. - I hope so, yeah.- Congratulations.

0:42:33 > 0:42:35- Thank you.- Thank you.

0:42:36 > 0:42:39Well, Paul might have a building background,

0:42:39 > 0:42:41but before he can get started with his ambitious plans,

0:42:41 > 0:42:44he needs to secure the planning permission,

0:42:44 > 0:42:46and the listed status of this property

0:42:46 > 0:42:48will only make it all the more challenging.

0:42:48 > 0:42:51Join me later in the programme and you can find out

0:42:51 > 0:42:54whether Paul has been left feeling sweet...

0:42:54 > 0:42:56or sour.

0:43:00 > 0:43:03So we've seen how one renovation got on. What about the others?

0:43:03 > 0:43:05Have their efforts paid off?

0:43:05 > 0:43:06Well, only one way to find out -

0:43:06 > 0:43:09and that's to head back and have a look.

0:43:10 > 0:43:13Time to head back to the town of Bloxwich in the West Midlands,

0:43:13 > 0:43:17where I saw a three-bed semidetached house which wasn't to be sniffed at.

0:43:20 > 0:43:23OK, on the odd occasion when you come into a property,

0:43:23 > 0:43:27it's not what you see that hits you first, it's what you smell -

0:43:27 > 0:43:33and I can smell damp, I can smell mildew and mould.

0:43:33 > 0:43:35That's the first thing that hits you.

0:43:35 > 0:43:38The other thing you could smell here was potential.

0:43:38 > 0:43:42Aside from a complete renovation in all rooms,

0:43:42 > 0:43:46this house offered the chance to add more space out the back.

0:43:46 > 0:43:48The large split-level garden and garage

0:43:48 > 0:43:50offered plenty of usable space.

0:43:50 > 0:43:52This meant adding an extension to the back here

0:43:52 > 0:43:54could have been the best way to add value.

0:43:56 > 0:43:57This is just what Pinder thought

0:43:57 > 0:44:01when he paid £135,000 for this house.

0:44:01 > 0:44:05It may be his first renovation, but with the support of his dad,

0:44:05 > 0:44:08who has years of experience in property development,

0:44:08 > 0:44:11he was pushing the boat out even further

0:44:11 > 0:44:12than an extension on this one.

0:44:12 > 0:44:16He'd also planned to convert the garage into a self-contained flat

0:44:16 > 0:44:20and go up into the loft, adding a fourth bedroom.

0:44:20 > 0:44:22Lofty ambitions indeed,

0:44:22 > 0:44:25that would need the support of the local planning department.

0:44:26 > 0:44:28I'm a pretty optimistic guy, to be honest with you, Dion.

0:44:28 > 0:44:32There's nothing about this for a first venture that's worrying you?

0:44:32 > 0:44:34At the moment, nothing's worrying me.

0:44:34 > 0:44:37But we'll see a couple of months down the line.

0:44:37 > 0:44:40- Ha! Could all change! - I might be ringing you, Dion.

0:44:40 > 0:44:43- What do I do with this? What do I do with that?- Exactly!

0:44:43 > 0:44:45Well, I never did get a call from Pinder -

0:44:45 > 0:44:48and to be fair, I think if I gave him a ring before we came back

0:44:48 > 0:44:52just five months later, he would've said...

0:44:52 > 0:44:54# Wha-wha-what did you say?

0:44:54 > 0:44:56# You're breaking up on me

0:44:56 > 0:44:58# Sorry I cannot hear you

0:44:58 > 0:45:00# I'm kinda busy

0:45:00 > 0:45:02# I'm kinda busy

0:45:02 > 0:45:04# I'm kinda busy

0:45:04 > 0:45:06# Sorry I cannot hear you

0:45:06 > 0:45:08# I'm kinda busy... #

0:45:08 > 0:45:12He and his dad and been very busy turning this house around

0:45:12 > 0:45:17in just five months. The entire downstairs has been transformed.

0:45:17 > 0:45:20The new extension leads off to two reception rooms

0:45:20 > 0:45:24that have been knocked through to create a large living space.

0:45:29 > 0:45:32Next door, the old kitchen is now a study.

0:45:34 > 0:45:37And there's now a downstairs toilet under the stairs.

0:45:39 > 0:45:42Upstairs, they have managed to maximise every inch

0:45:42 > 0:45:45of the old bathroom to fit a bath and a shower in.

0:45:47 > 0:45:51By taking the house back to brick to rewire, replaster and re-plumb,

0:45:51 > 0:45:54they have removed every trace of mould.

0:45:56 > 0:45:58Although they stopped short of a loft conversion,

0:45:58 > 0:46:01in fear of overdeveloping the house,

0:46:01 > 0:46:04they did go through with the plan of converting the garage.

0:46:05 > 0:46:08Now it's a self-contained single room flat with its own bathroom.

0:46:14 > 0:46:17So much work has gone into this massive project.

0:46:17 > 0:46:21Pinder must have gained so much experience in the last few months.

0:46:22 > 0:46:27So, I've been working on weekends, helping my dad out,

0:46:27 > 0:46:30who is primarily the project manager here.

0:46:30 > 0:46:32My initial role was just labouring when I came over,

0:46:32 > 0:46:35just to give a hand to people.

0:46:35 > 0:46:38Other than that, my dad was overseeing everyone.

0:46:38 > 0:46:40And he's drawn upon his expertise

0:46:40 > 0:46:44and his network of workers to complete the project.

0:46:45 > 0:46:48That experience has helped them come in one month ahead of schedule

0:46:48 > 0:46:52and an impressive five grand under their 40 grand budget for the work.

0:46:52 > 0:46:54It almost sounds like it was too easy.

0:46:57 > 0:47:00I'd say the biggest challenge would be the commute.

0:47:00 > 0:47:02Sometimes we get stuck in traffic,

0:47:02 > 0:47:05going from different cities from Coventry to Walsall.

0:47:05 > 0:47:08It's not always easy, travelling in the morning,

0:47:08 > 0:47:10erm, with workers, as well.

0:47:10 > 0:47:13So, that has probably been the main challenge.

0:47:13 > 0:47:15If we were looking to do it again,

0:47:15 > 0:47:20we'd probably go closer to home and look for a project there.

0:47:20 > 0:47:23That hasn't been the only journey Pinder has had to overcome

0:47:23 > 0:47:26on this project, as he's also had an uphill climb

0:47:26 > 0:47:29learning the ins and outs of property development.

0:47:29 > 0:47:31This experience has been a steep learning curve.

0:47:31 > 0:47:35I just tried to absorb as much information from my father

0:47:35 > 0:47:36as possible and therefore,

0:47:36 > 0:47:38hopefully, I'll be able to take on experiences

0:47:38 > 0:47:40and take it to another project.

0:47:41 > 0:47:44Well, before they think about moving on to the next property,

0:47:44 > 0:47:46it's time to see if this one

0:47:46 > 0:47:49could provide the capital for future projects.

0:47:49 > 0:47:53We've asked along two local estate agents to see what they think.

0:47:53 > 0:47:55I think the layout's good.

0:47:55 > 0:47:58Originally, I gather it was a two reception room property

0:47:58 > 0:48:00that's been knocked into one,

0:48:00 > 0:48:02and with the rear extension, as well,

0:48:02 > 0:48:05the ground floor accommodation is very, very good.

0:48:05 > 0:48:06The standard of the finish is good.

0:48:06 > 0:48:08Certainly the bathroom and kitchen,

0:48:08 > 0:48:11which are ideal features to any buyer,

0:48:11 > 0:48:13are done to a very high standard.

0:48:13 > 0:48:17The rest of the property has been done to a good standard,

0:48:17 > 0:48:19which will allow for anyone to come in

0:48:19 > 0:48:22and put their own mark on the property.

0:48:22 > 0:48:23Some good feedback,

0:48:23 > 0:48:26but will the sales figures reflect the work they've put in

0:48:26 > 0:48:29to their 170 grand investment?

0:48:29 > 0:48:32I would look for achieving 200,000,

0:48:32 > 0:48:36with a starting value of around 210,000.

0:48:36 > 0:48:38If I was to put this property on the market today,

0:48:38 > 0:48:40I would put it on the market

0:48:40 > 0:48:43at something in the region of 200 to £225,000.

0:48:43 > 0:48:46Well, personally, I think them sale values are kind of low,

0:48:46 > 0:48:47to be honest with you.

0:48:47 > 0:48:51We've also had our own local estate agent come down

0:48:51 > 0:48:53and value the property themselves.

0:48:53 > 0:48:57And they feel like it should be on the market for 259,000,

0:48:57 > 0:49:00to achieve a sale figure of £250,000.

0:49:02 > 0:49:03Well, at the end of the day,

0:49:03 > 0:49:07a house is worth as much as somebody is willing to pay for it.

0:49:07 > 0:49:11There's a potential pre-tax profit of between 30 and 80 grand.

0:49:11 > 0:49:14So it's a successful first project by anyone's standards.

0:49:14 > 0:49:17But perhaps rental might be the better option.

0:49:19 > 0:49:22The property, I believe, would be a better rental property.

0:49:22 > 0:49:26It has been set up and designed to attract that type of client.

0:49:26 > 0:49:29And I believe this property would achieve

0:49:29 > 0:49:31around £850 per calendar month.

0:49:31 > 0:49:36Rental figure, somewhere in the region of 850 to £950 per month.

0:49:36 > 0:49:38The rental figures are pretty similar

0:49:38 > 0:49:40to what we had been expecting -

0:49:40 > 0:49:44and to be honest with you, it is a long-term project

0:49:44 > 0:49:48and a long-term development and I do see this being in the portfolio.

0:49:48 > 0:49:52So, maybe the rental figures is something that we may pursue.

0:49:54 > 0:49:57The top rental figure would give a yield of 6%,

0:49:57 > 0:50:00and despite the varying sales figures either way,

0:50:00 > 0:50:02they have added value to this property,

0:50:02 > 0:50:04which was the main objective.

0:50:04 > 0:50:08Well, that, and for Pinder to get his feet wet in property development

0:50:08 > 0:50:10to follow in his father's footsteps.

0:50:10 > 0:50:11The experience has been great.

0:50:11 > 0:50:14I've had some really good bonding time with my father

0:50:14 > 0:50:17and I've learned some really good tricks on the way.

0:50:17 > 0:50:20With his first successful project under his belt,

0:50:20 > 0:50:22it seems, in this case,

0:50:22 > 0:50:25the apple certainly hasn't fallen far from the tree.

0:50:32 > 0:50:35It's time now to head back to Milton Regis in Kent,

0:50:35 > 0:50:37where Lucy saw a Grade II listed building

0:50:37 > 0:50:41that contained living accommodation above a Chinese restaurant.

0:50:43 > 0:50:45Right here was the servery.

0:50:45 > 0:50:50And through here, I think this may have been the restaurant area.

0:50:50 > 0:50:54Wouldn't fancy ordering my food here as it is at the moment.

0:50:54 > 0:50:57Little bit tatty, and needs everything doing.

0:50:57 > 0:51:00It had a class A5 commercial use,

0:51:00 > 0:51:03so regulations meant there were plenty of options on the menu

0:51:03 > 0:51:06for what you could do with the ground floor.

0:51:06 > 0:51:10It could remain as a restaurant, become a cafe, or even a shop.

0:51:12 > 0:51:15However, that's not why experienced builder Paul

0:51:15 > 0:51:19decided to pay £109,000 for the property at auction.

0:51:19 > 0:51:21He was cooking up something different here

0:51:21 > 0:51:25and didn't even look inside pre-auction, a Hammer no-no -

0:51:25 > 0:51:29because he had a gut feeling it was full of potential.

0:51:29 > 0:51:32- I bought it on impulse. - You just bought it for 109,000?

0:51:32 > 0:51:34Yeah, it's a lot of property for such small money.

0:51:34 > 0:51:37So come on, then. Tell me, what are your plans?

0:51:37 > 0:51:40Subject to planning, then, erm, this will turn into two houses.

0:51:40 > 0:51:41How are you going to do that?

0:51:41 > 0:51:44And how are you going to do that without tampering too much?

0:51:44 > 0:51:45Because it is listed.

0:51:45 > 0:51:49It will actually improve it, because it was always two properties,

0:51:49 > 0:51:52and they took the spine wall out to make it into one,

0:51:52 > 0:51:53so we'll put that back,

0:51:53 > 0:51:57and that will improve the stability of the building.

0:51:57 > 0:51:59I'm so excited to see the outcome here.

0:51:59 > 0:52:03Initially, Paul thought the planning process would take about eight weeks

0:52:03 > 0:52:05and the building work around six months.

0:52:05 > 0:52:08So now we're heading back almost three years later.

0:52:08 > 0:52:11It must be ready, right?

0:52:11 > 0:52:17# Maybe sometime sooner or later

0:52:18 > 0:52:22# But I don't think I'm ready yet

0:52:25 > 0:52:28# I'm not feeling up to it now

0:52:30 > 0:52:33# Just not that steady yet

0:52:36 > 0:52:40# And I don't need you telling me how. #

0:52:44 > 0:52:47Sadly, nothing about this project has been simple -

0:52:47 > 0:52:50and the reason for the delay is, of course,

0:52:50 > 0:52:53because the building is a Grade II listed one.

0:52:55 > 0:52:58It's been a bit of a roller-coaster.

0:52:58 > 0:53:01We kept thinking that we'd reached a point where we could go ahead,

0:53:01 > 0:53:05but kept getting rejections.

0:53:05 > 0:53:08Normal planning permission only takes eight weeks

0:53:08 > 0:53:10and, erm...

0:53:10 > 0:53:14This took three years, which kind of set us back a bit.

0:53:14 > 0:53:18During this time, we've had problems with security.

0:53:18 > 0:53:20We've had three arson attacks,

0:53:20 > 0:53:26people have been in and stolen all the cables and pipework.

0:53:26 > 0:53:29The fire damage wasn't just restricted to this house.

0:53:29 > 0:53:32The other lot he bought next door

0:53:32 > 0:53:33had its barn set on fire,

0:53:33 > 0:53:37and the main building suffered the same delays in planning.

0:53:37 > 0:53:41Back next door, Paul and his team were granted permission

0:53:41 > 0:53:45to strip this 15th-century property back to the bare brick,

0:53:45 > 0:53:49so they could see the condition of the old timber frame building.

0:53:49 > 0:53:53Sadly, hiding underneath the plaster were a few nasty surprises.

0:53:55 > 0:53:58We've got the main structural beam running through,

0:53:58 > 0:54:04but the valley has given way over the years and rotted this beam out.

0:54:04 > 0:54:07So this beam wasn't sitting on anything

0:54:07 > 0:54:12and this is the... this is the structure of the beam.

0:54:12 > 0:54:16Erm, it's no longer serving its purpose,

0:54:16 > 0:54:19and we need to replace this completely

0:54:19 > 0:54:22and pick up this beam at the same time.

0:54:23 > 0:54:25# I need support... #

0:54:25 > 0:54:27Once the beams are sorted,

0:54:27 > 0:54:30Paul can get down to fitting out the houses.

0:54:30 > 0:54:33The kitchens will actually be to the front of the property,

0:54:33 > 0:54:34because of the road noise,

0:54:34 > 0:54:37meaning the living space will be towards the back.

0:54:39 > 0:54:41The first floor will have two bedrooms

0:54:41 > 0:54:43and a family-sized bathroom.

0:54:43 > 0:54:45The other two bedrooms will be in the attic.

0:54:47 > 0:54:49Now the planning has been passed,

0:54:49 > 0:54:53will Paul be able to stick to his original six-month build time?

0:54:55 > 0:54:58The timescale should be the same from now,

0:54:58 > 0:55:03providing that we don't come up against any problems

0:55:03 > 0:55:07with the authorities. We've got a bit of a challenge,

0:55:07 > 0:55:13because building regs have different requirements to the planning people,

0:55:13 > 0:55:16so we have to try and meet the building regs,

0:55:16 > 0:55:20but at the same time not destroy the fabric of the building.

0:55:21 > 0:55:24Paul has spent £20,000 on the work so far

0:55:24 > 0:55:28and thinks it'll be another 120,000 to complete the two houses.

0:55:28 > 0:55:31Time to ask along two local estate agents

0:55:31 > 0:55:35to see if they think all the years' work are going to pay off.

0:55:35 > 0:55:38The overall size of the property is very good.

0:55:38 > 0:55:40The living accommodation is a very good size

0:55:40 > 0:55:43and the location is very good to local schools

0:55:43 > 0:55:46and within walking distance to Sittingbourne train station.

0:55:46 > 0:55:48I think the properties, once completed, will be great,

0:55:48 > 0:55:51and we would have buyers for the properties coming from London,

0:55:51 > 0:55:54because this area is really up and coming,

0:55:54 > 0:55:57from people moving out of London.

0:55:57 > 0:56:00Encouraging noises from the agents, then.

0:56:00 > 0:56:01It sounds like Paul's impulse buy

0:56:01 > 0:56:04was a good decision in terms of location.

0:56:04 > 0:56:08Could there be light at the end of a very long development tunnel?

0:56:08 > 0:56:13So far, he's invested £129,000 in this project.

0:56:13 > 0:56:16The agents think if he sold it right now,

0:56:16 > 0:56:20he could get between £400,000 and £450,000 for the two houses.

0:56:20 > 0:56:24After three long years, that must be tempting.

0:56:24 > 0:56:28I've always been of the opinion that it's better to go the full distance

0:56:28 > 0:56:31and end up with owning the property,

0:56:31 > 0:56:37but if 450,000 for the two properties is viable,

0:56:37 > 0:56:41then it would make more sense to go down that one.

0:56:41 > 0:56:43If Paul sold now, that would mean a potential

0:56:43 > 0:56:48of £321,000 profit, minus taxes and fees.

0:56:48 > 0:56:52So could he make more if he finishes it?

0:56:52 > 0:56:54He would, of course, have months more of hassle and hard work

0:56:54 > 0:56:58and it would take his costs up to 249,000.

0:56:58 > 0:57:01What could the completed houses sell for?

0:57:01 > 0:57:03I would recommend a resale figure

0:57:03 > 0:57:08of £350,000 to 375,000, per each property.

0:57:08 > 0:57:11We would value them at £395,000 each.

0:57:11 > 0:57:18Crikey! Those top figures would mean a potential profit of £541,000.

0:57:18 > 0:57:23So, a possible 321,000 now, or 541,000 later.

0:57:23 > 0:57:25Which will Paul go for?

0:57:26 > 0:57:29I need to speak to my financial advisers

0:57:29 > 0:57:33to find out what it's going to cost me in tax

0:57:33 > 0:57:37to sell the properties on, so I'm very encouraged.

0:57:37 > 0:57:40Yeah, it's taken me by surprise.

0:57:40 > 0:57:43This project has certainly been taxing,

0:57:43 > 0:57:45so maybe it's fitting that the final decision

0:57:45 > 0:57:48on whether or not Paul will complete this renovation

0:57:48 > 0:57:50will come down to the figures.

0:57:50 > 0:57:54Hopefully the extra £220,000 pre-tax profit Paul could make here

0:57:54 > 0:57:57when the houses are complete will spur him on,

0:57:57 > 0:58:01and we can return again to see this listed building restored fully.

0:58:07 > 0:58:09Well, we hope you've enjoyed today's show,

0:58:09 > 0:58:11seeing how other people tried it out.

0:58:11 > 0:58:13Maybe we've inspired you to give it a go.

0:58:13 > 0:58:15Yes, I hope we've been some help to you.

0:58:15 > 0:58:17See you next time on Homes Under The Hammer.

0:58:17 > 0:58:18- Goodbye.- Bye-bye.