:00:34. > :00:41.Hello. Welcome Flower Show, an event supported by
:00:42. > :00:46.M Investments. We are coming to the end of a memorable week. The
:00:47. > :00:50.show was still in full swing. It is public day and that means that as
:00:51. > :00:56.ever there will be a big crowd here. We have been here a week. We're
:00:57. > :01:00.looking at the nitty-gritty of and combinations, plants themselves,
:01:01. > :01:04.sculpture we like, but for the visitors today it will hit them in
:01:05. > :01:10.the face. Where will they go? Do they like this garden? Yes, no, move
:01:11. > :01:13.on. It is a show, a performance. My children came yesterday for the
:01:14. > :01:17.first time. I showed them the show gardens. But the thing they loved
:01:18. > :01:22.with the most energy was the Great Pavilion. We talk about a lot about
:01:23. > :01:28.this but full impact there is a lot going on all over the place and
:01:29. > :01:31.sometimes we overlook the energy. Maybe we are turning into
:01:32. > :01:39.sophisticated gardening snobs, what do you think? Speak for yourself.
:01:40. > :01:43.Later in the programme. Chelsea regular is Jacques Amand reveal how
:01:44. > :01:49.specialising in rare and unusual bulbs has been the secret of their
:01:50. > :01:54.continued success. Furniture designer David Linley shares his
:01:55. > :01:57.opinion on the show. A good gardener -- garden fields where you want to
:01:58. > :02:03.spend time, that you don't want rush out of. And what
:02:04. > :02:05.spend time, that you don't want rush these Chelsea gardens when the show
:02:06. > :02:11.closes its gates? Christine Walkden visits the medal winning designs
:02:12. > :02:15.enjoying a second night. It is nice to see them together. It completes
:02:16. > :02:22.the picture, there is a story here now. What is in the papers today? We
:02:23. > :02:26.have seen quite a lot of coverage of Chelsea throughout the week. I have
:02:27. > :02:30.got these from No Man's Land. They have published one from everyday of
:02:31. > :02:38.the week, flower of the day, really interesting pieces from some pretty
:02:39. > :02:43.good writers. All sorts. It is called the wipers Times. Why? I will
:02:44. > :02:51.tell you, in the First World War, which relates to Charlotte's garden,
:02:52. > :02:58.No Man's Land, the Ypres offensive was called Wipers. They printed
:02:59. > :03:03.paper in the trenches in the dugout and distributed it. Under incredible
:03:04. > :03:09.conditions. It had poems, articles, news, and raised morale hugely. The
:03:10. > :03:14.officers tried to suppress it. But it was so popular. This newspaper,
:03:15. > :03:18.that was produced, it was an extraordinary story. It is brilliant
:03:19. > :03:23.they have resurrected that. Brilliant. Talking about
:03:24. > :03:27.popularity, it is time to reveal who won the People's Choice Award. All
:03:28. > :03:31.week we have been asking you to vote for your most favourite, popular
:03:32. > :03:37.Chelsea Ladies -- Chelsea large garden. Popular with you. The voting
:03:38. > :03:46.closed at midnight. Earlier today, we surprised the winner.
:03:47. > :03:51.Here we are in the garden. Runners through the planting and the story
:03:52. > :03:54.it is telling us to mark The planting links nicely with the
:03:55. > :03:58.granite. What I tried to do is create a contrast between the hard
:03:59. > :04:04.and soft landscaping. It is a really effective approach to take. You can
:04:05. > :04:08.see in the middle. Here it is, the BBC RHS People's Choice Award.
:04:09. > :04:13.Thousands and thousands of you have voted and we now have an outright
:04:14. > :04:18.winner. The person who has won it has -- is just around the corner. He
:04:19. > :04:22.has no idea he has won it. He thinks he is doing an interview with Chris
:04:23. > :04:31.and Joe, but what is really going to happen is we are going to surprise
:04:32. > :04:37.him. Ladies and gentlemen, he is just 29 years old. It is his first
:04:38. > :04:44.time here at the Chelsea flower show. And he has designed a
:04:45. > :04:48.beautiful garden, Hope on the horizon. It is the Help for Heroes
:04:49. > :04:54.garden for injured soldiers on their road to recovery. The winner of the
:04:55. > :05:06.People's Choice Award is Matthew Keightley. Congratulations! Thank
:05:07. > :05:11.you. Is this live? Thank you. Thank you very much. Well done. Brilliant,
:05:12. > :05:21.very well-deserved. What do you make of that? Tens of thousands of votes,
:05:22. > :05:25.you have had. Tens of thousands of votes or people watching? I have to
:05:26. > :05:30.be careful. I can't believe it, I can't thank all enough. It is
:05:31. > :05:34.incredible. I think the medals went out of the window for me when one of
:05:35. > :05:37.the veterans from Help for Heroes came through the garden and
:05:38. > :05:41.explained how he felt and what the garden meant to him and how it would
:05:42. > :05:48.affect other people going through recovery. I have used a few words
:05:49. > :05:53.throughout the garden that just about sum up this whole process, not
:05:54. > :06:00.just for me but sum up the garden as a whole. Those words read, it is
:06:01. > :06:05.about the blokes. They are just blokes, but they are our blokes.
:06:06. > :06:08.That is who this award is for. It is all about the soldiers, our brave
:06:09. > :06:14.men and women of the Armed Forces. Thank you very much. Thank you. This
:06:15. > :06:17.journey has been inspired by your brother, Michael, currently out in
:06:18. > :06:23.Afghanistan on his fifth tour. I bet you can't wait to tell him. I can't.
:06:24. > :06:29.I just got off the phone, so it is bad timing, but he will call back in
:06:30. > :06:33.a minute. I can't wait, he will be proud as punch. Matthew Keightley,
:06:34. > :06:39.winner of the People's Choice Award, huge congratulations. Very
:06:40. > :06:44.well-deserved. A first timer, unbelievable. Thank you. That is
:06:45. > :06:47.certainly a worthy winner. Inside the Great Pavilion one family of
:06:48. > :06:53.growers have been sharing their memories with us. Since arriving in
:06:54. > :06:57.the UK from Holland over 70 years ago, Jacques Amand has offered us
:06:58. > :07:00.myriad of flowering bulbs to discerning God is. It is still a
:07:01. > :07:05.family business today and brother and sister John and Nesta are
:07:06. > :07:15.rightly proud of being able to sell their bulbs back to the Dutch.
:07:16. > :07:22.My father Jean Jacques trained as a florist in Holland. In 1927 he
:07:23. > :07:27.decided he wanted to start his own business and sell flowers. So he
:07:28. > :07:31.came to England. He came with a few bunches of flowers in his hands and
:07:32. > :07:35.walked around the flower shops of London selling cut flowers and later
:07:36. > :07:42.on he got a couple of shops in the Strand. That is how the business
:07:43. > :07:47.started. My father first displayed at Chelsea in the 1950s. It is great
:07:48. > :07:55.looking back at the old films. You get a feeling of what it was like.
:07:56. > :07:59.It was totally different then. When I was about ten or 11, I used to
:08:00. > :08:03.hassle him all the time. Can I go and serve in the shop? In the end I
:08:04. > :08:08.used to open up the shop on Sunday on my own and get a percentage of
:08:09. > :08:14.profits for doing it. Great fun! You just acquire a love of plants which
:08:15. > :08:18.never goes away. We have gone into the more rare and unusual things,
:08:19. > :08:20.which my father never used to do. Let's have a look and see what we
:08:21. > :08:24.can find for the show. Let's have a look and see what we
:08:25. > :08:31.sunshine, we have Let's have a look and see what we
:08:32. > :08:37.topple, if it is too warm. John is my older brother. We work together.
:08:38. > :08:44.We always really have done. I tend to organise all the shows. John does
:08:45. > :08:48.the sourcing of the unusual plants, so the team works quite well. Keeps
:08:49. > :08:51.us apart for a little while, which is quite good as well
:08:52. > :08:52.us apart for a little while, which brother and sister, you know. We
:08:53. > :08:56.don't tend to brother and sister, you know. We
:08:57. > :09:01.don't see each other to argue, she is always a flower shows and I am
:09:02. > :09:05.usually hear or off in Holland seeing growers. I don't know if he
:09:06. > :09:09.is sourcing bulbs going off on a jolly. He does come back with bulbs,
:09:10. > :09:16.anyway, so I have to give him that credit.
:09:17. > :09:24.This comes from Japan, grows as a hardy, outdoor orchid. A lovely plan
:09:25. > :09:28.to have, look at that. Wouldn't you like that in the garden? It grows in
:09:29. > :09:33.the shade, where other things don't grow. This is arisaema
:09:34. > :09:38.candidissimum, it comes from China and has a lovely scent. A lovely
:09:39. > :09:44.rose said. It grows in semi-shade, totally hardy. It does not normally
:09:45. > :09:54.flower until July. Very, very easy. Over here we have the cypripediums,
:09:55. > :09:55.flower until July. Very, very easy. lady slipper orchid. Shade loving
:09:56. > :09:59.plants lady slipper orchid. Shade loving
:10:00. > :10:05.cut leaf foliage there. These other varieties, this is an
:10:06. > :10:13.looking plant. Totally hardy. Some of these plans go down to -40
:10:14. > :10:17.Celsius. I am one of the few people that sells bulbs back to Holland.
:10:18. > :10:22.The Dutch are world leaders in the horticultural world. They have a
:10:23. > :10:27.history, the soil. There is 25,000 acres of tulips growing in Holland.
:10:28. > :10:32.That is 5 billion tulips year. Which is quite amazing. That is just the
:10:33. > :10:37.tulips. Everybody goes to them for all sorts of plants. Now people go
:10:38. > :10:40.to them for the unusual bulbs. So they look around to see where they
:10:41. > :10:45.can force them. So that is how I have managed to pick up lots of
:10:46. > :11:04.customers for these unusual bulbs in Holland. I suppose the thing that I
:11:05. > :11:07.really like, is the arisaemas, we sell 30,000 more -- or more a year.
:11:08. > :11:13.They are the ones I am most proud of, a lovely feeling. Well, Nesta,
:11:14. > :11:18.congratulations on yet another gold. Fantastic. We are really pleased,
:11:19. > :11:23.all the hard work has come together. It is such pressure. It is there and
:11:24. > :11:27.all the plants have performed beautifully. They certainly have.
:11:28. > :11:29.Are all these grown in your nursery? All the plans have performed
:11:30. > :11:32.beautifully. They certainly have. Are always grown in your nursery?
:11:33. > :11:36.Olding-macro to our grown in the nursery additive hard work -- all
:11:37. > :11:40.the arisaemas are grown in the nursery. I am fascinated you have
:11:41. > :11:44.the coals to Newcastle thing of selling bulbs back to the Dutch.
:11:45. > :11:50.They grow lots of bulbs. What are they interested in, and why? Because
:11:51. > :11:53.we have the unusual arisaemas that they haven't got because they grow
:11:54. > :12:00.the commonplace things like tulips and daffodils and things, that is
:12:01. > :12:04.why they want them. They are amazing looking plants, aren't they?
:12:05. > :12:09.Woodland plants. What is it about them that people are drawn to? They
:12:10. > :12:13.are so different, not so loud and colourful. People are always looking
:12:14. > :12:17.for something to go into woodland because that is the hardest place to
:12:18. > :12:24.grow quite a few things. This particular one here, a COBRA lily, I
:12:25. > :12:31.believe. That is right, it looks at you. Some people say it is very
:12:32. > :12:37.sinister. You have a huge display of cypripediums as well. They are
:12:38. > :12:41.coming into play now, we used to do a few of them but now they are much
:12:42. > :12:44.more readily available in lots of different varieties. It looks
:12:45. > :12:50.amazing, so thank you very much. Thank you.
:12:51. > :12:54.Tonight we are looking at memories that have inspired this year's
:12:55. > :12:57.Chelsea exhibits and in the show garden category designer Adam Frost
:12:58. > :13:05.has taken reflections from his own past to help make the garden for
:13:06. > :13:09.Homebase. Adam, this garden, memories are very personal and quite
:13:10. > :13:14.poignant, aren't they? They are. I was really lucky in a sense I had
:13:15. > :13:17.more freedom this year. It had to tie in with the Alzheimer's Society
:13:18. > :13:23.and if I am honest the first piece of work I did was quite formulaic. I
:13:24. > :13:26.felt it was not really nailing it. After that I went to the drawing
:13:27. > :13:30.board and started to look at Alzheimer's is a disease and in
:13:31. > :13:33.reality it makes you realise how important memories are. When you
:13:34. > :13:38.take everything away in life, strip everything back, all you have really
:13:39. > :13:43.got is memories. If you get to an age and they start to stop forming
:13:44. > :13:46.memories and they fall off, it is really scary. I wanted to create a
:13:47. > :13:52.space that people would stop and think about how important they are.
:13:53. > :13:56.How does it work and translate? It translates in the sense that I went
:13:57. > :14:03.back to 2012 and tied into somewhere I have really strong memories. My
:14:04. > :14:07.none passed away in the January. -- my grandmother passed away. She was
:14:08. > :14:11.my inspiration for gardening, she got me out growing veg. That was a
:14:12. > :14:16.big moment. After that, my wife was really poorly in June and I have
:14:17. > :14:22.four children and the thought of not having a wife and four children was
:14:23. > :14:27.scary. In October, my dad passed away. I wanted to go back into their
:14:28. > :14:32.and create a space not necessarily, it was not going to be a sad space,
:14:33. > :14:37.a space to create new memories. I looked at my dad, who realistically
:14:38. > :14:41.was not the best dad in the world, he had a disability with his hands
:14:42. > :14:48.and he loved rock, water, geology. He loved the English countryside.
:14:49. > :14:52.You pulled altogether. I put in a bag, shook it together and hopefully
:14:53. > :14:56.got a space that a family could spend time together. There are
:14:57. > :15:03.lovely memories. We have a Buttercup meadow, you put the butter cups
:15:04. > :15:06.under, and things like down on the beach, you used to clamber around
:15:07. > :15:10.rocks and there was always one rock that looked like it was either going
:15:11. > :15:14.to move, or a bit too slippery. There are stories in there, maybe
:15:15. > :15:21.you could jump. There are those things. It is a space to stop and
:15:22. > :15:25.reflect and maybe get off this mad world we live in and reconnect with
:15:26. > :15:27.nature. Just get our kids out there and enjoy the space. That is what it
:15:28. > :15:35.was about. There is a second garden here that
:15:36. > :15:38.is full of childhood memories. Patrick Collins has drawn
:15:39. > :15:42.inspiration from his family home in Cornwall for his garden for the
:15:43. > :15:52.charity First Touch. We visited him there last month.
:15:53. > :16:00.This place is called Trethew and it is in Cornwall. Essentially, it is
:16:01. > :16:04.my family home. Sit where I grew up as a child. -- it is where I grew up
:16:05. > :16:08.as a child. We moved down here when I was eight. It was a fantastic
:16:09. > :16:12.experience for a young child to move from London to the countryside.
:16:13. > :16:17.There's fantastic open space, loads of places to explore, woodlands,
:16:18. > :16:24.fields. They are the inspiration for our garden at this year's Chelsea
:16:25. > :16:28.Flower Show. Gardening became very much a family pursuit. It is
:16:29. > :16:31.something we all did together. I think because of that, I have this
:16:32. > :16:35.kind of love of gardening today and it goes back to my childhood
:16:36. > :16:43.memories, my time spent here with my parents and family as well as the
:16:44. > :16:52.immediate family members. We had an extended family of animals. It was
:16:53. > :16:59.really quite a full house. The First Touch gardens are a celebration of
:17:00. > :17:03.the work of the neonatal unit at St George's Hospital. My daughter was
:17:04. > :17:07.born prematurely and she spent a long time on the unit there. And the
:17:08. > :17:09.garden is away of saying thank you to the doctors and nurses for all
:17:10. > :17:19.they have done. I think the main elements which I
:17:20. > :17:22.loved about the gardens were the rock work, the granite, which is a
:17:23. > :17:26.part of Cornwall, the water and then the trees as well. They give the
:17:27. > :17:30.structure to the garden, the enclosure and the shade and the
:17:31. > :17:36.dappled light, which is wonderful at this time of year. The Chelsea
:17:37. > :17:42.Garden is a combination of my childhood memories here, my
:17:43. > :17:45.experiences as a child, but also the experiences and the journey which my
:17:46. > :17:48.own daughter has gone on, for example the main feature of the
:17:49. > :17:54.garden is that water feature and that's quite turbulent and, as the
:17:55. > :17:56.water progresses, it becomes calmer, as the journey goes on and becomes
:17:57. > :18:04.tranquil at the end. Water is such an integral part of
:18:05. > :18:08.this landscape. It defines the landscape and gives the gardens
:18:09. > :18:15.their unique properties. It originates from half a mile away
:18:16. > :18:19.from a spring and it follows the line to the watermill and from there
:18:20. > :18:24.down into the garden into this beautiful cascade here. It flows
:18:25. > :18:29.down the field, down to the woodland at the bottom.
:18:30. > :18:34.Well, this is where the water from the garden
:18:35. > :18:38.Well, this is where the water from woodland, which is where I used to
:18:39. > :18:42.play a lot. It is a really quite a magical place and I have many fond
:18:43. > :18:45.memories of being down here. I have discovered the old seat we chiselled
:18:46. > :18:54.out of the rock here. It's - discovered the old seat we chiselled
:18:55. > :18:59.inspiration is here. We have our living wall which is made up of
:19:00. > :19:05.woodland species. A lot of the family favourites from this garden
:19:06. > :19:10.have ended up in the Chelsea Garden, the ferns, the hostas. This is one
:19:11. > :19:14.of the woodlands where I used to play as a child. Surrounded by these
:19:15. > :19:22.beautiful trees. We are trying to take the essence of
:19:23. > :19:24.those woodlands and re-create them in the wooded part of our garden at
:19:25. > :19:35.Chelsea. This was my first bedroom when we
:19:36. > :19:39.moved to Cornwall, with this fantastic window and outlook on to
:19:40. > :19:43.the garden. I remember with great fondness this ash tree, it is a real
:19:44. > :19:44.character, and the architecture and landscape have merged together. It
:19:45. > :19:59.is almost like the tree is This garden is a very happy place to
:20:00. > :20:04.be. I love coming down here with the family, my two daughters, they love
:20:05. > :20:07.visiting grandma, love seeing the garden. It is all those things which
:20:08. > :20:13.I did as a child, which they are now doing as well.
:20:14. > :20:20.What a lovely place to grow up in. A beautiful garden. Thank you so much.
:20:21. > :20:25.To be able to take that as an essence of a Chelsea
:20:26. > :20:25.To be able to take that as an have you taken
:20:26. > :20:30.To be able to take that as an turned it into this Show Garden?
:20:31. > :20:33.To be able to take that as an main feature we have tried to take
:20:34. > :20:37.is the water feature and to re-create it here at Chelsea. The
:20:38. > :20:39.water here represents the journey that premature babies and their
:20:40. > :20:44.families follow. It has a turbulent families follow. It has a turbulent
:20:45. > :20:46.source, but it becomes more and more tranquil as it flows through the
:20:47. > :20:56.garden. I love it. tranquil as it flows through the
:20:57. > :20:57.theme off. This rusty steel is a major feature. Why have you used
:20:58. > :21:03.that? It represents the major feature. Why have you used
:21:04. > :21:07.the landscape. I guess what I have tried to create is a stylised
:21:08. > :21:14.landscape with the water creating a valley through the rock work. Yeah.
:21:15. > :21:18.Like it does at home. It works really well. It is warm and modern
:21:19. > :21:22.and it sets the plants off really well. That's right.
:21:23. > :21:26.and it sets the plants off really glass are a bit too cold. It warms
:21:27. > :21:32.the garden up. Planting, I think, is lovely as well. These irises are
:21:33. > :21:38.looking stunning. They are wonderful. There are some old family
:21:39. > :21:40.favourites here as well, the hostas and the ferns. It's got better as
:21:41. > :21:45.the week and the ferns. It's got better as
:21:46. > :21:48.With these charity gardens, it is a very important charity that you are
:21:49. > :21:55.involved in. People often ask me how can a charity afford to do a Show
:21:56. > :21:59.Garden at Chelsea. The charity is First Touch, a small charity based
:22:00. > :22:05.at St George's Hospital in Tooting, they support the neonatal unit
:22:06. > :22:09.there. We have created this garden through the goodness of people and
:22:10. > :22:13.their kindness. It's been built with volunteers. We have had plants and
:22:14. > :22:18.materials donated free of charge. We have had a fantastic contractor, who
:22:19. > :22:22.has provided the labour for free. So, it's been done on a tight
:22:23. > :22:26.budget? On an extremely tight budget! But we are proud of what we
:22:27. > :22:30.have achieved. You are the first one in here every morning and the last
:22:31. > :22:36.one here every night because you are watering the garden. That's right.
:22:37. > :22:41.Have kept It looking beautiful all week. It is worth it. Thank you.
:22:42. > :22:46.Unusual plants and new introductions are launched on to the market here.
:22:47. > :22:50.One Chelsea stalwart with a prolific history of plant breeding is Hillier
:22:51. > :22:55.Nurseries. In their 150-year history, they have introduced over
:22:56. > :23:01.200 new plant varieties. Carol has been looking back at some of their
:23:02. > :23:04.classic cultivars. Yes, she is still in there. We might let her out
:23:05. > :23:07.tomorrow! This is typical of the kind of
:23:08. > :23:14.plants that this nursery has introduced. It's been around for
:23:15. > :23:18.more than 100 years. Since it was founded as a chance seedling. I have
:23:19. > :23:23.grown it myself for ages and ages, not quite 100 years! It's so easy to
:23:24. > :23:29.grow and it's really, really tough. It's stood the test of time.
:23:30. > :23:38.Andy, how on earth do all these wonderful plants come to be on your
:23:39. > :23:47.list? Well, there is a number of different ways that new plants
:23:48. > :23:51.arise. One of them is just from sewing seed and finding out what
:23:52. > :23:57.variations occur. When plants come from seed, there can be great
:23:58. > :24:01.variation amongst the seedlings. That is the thing about seedlings,
:24:02. > :24:05.they are random and you never know what you are going to get? Some
:24:06. > :24:09.might produce particularly good flowers and you are always looking
:24:10. > :24:13.for that one seedling that has star quality. It is all to do with
:24:14. > :24:17.selection and having an eye and recognising a winner? Yes, it is.
:24:18. > :24:22.You might spot something that produces a fantastic flower at an
:24:23. > :24:26.early age, but then it doesn't turn out to be good grower with a nice
:24:27. > :24:29.habit. Once you have selected your seedlings, how long before you
:24:30. > :24:35.actually take them to Chelsea? Well, I mean, from the time a cross is
:24:36. > :24:40.made to the plant making it to Chelsea, it is probably, it could be
:24:41. > :24:44.ten years or more. Along the way you have got to trial it, you have to
:24:45. > :24:48.test it and also, of course, you have to propagate it to get a
:24:49. > :24:54.commercial quantity to launch on to the market. We have always had a
:24:55. > :24:58.section within the nursery where we do, what we call today, research and
:24:59. > :25:03.development, which is a fancy name for bringing plants together from
:25:04. > :25:08.potentially different parts of the world. A great example, I remember
:25:09. > :25:23.from the first Chelsea, that I was involved in staging this exhibit,
:25:24. > :25:30.and that was choisya Aztec Pearl. What it produced was that wonderful,
:25:31. > :25:35.hardy shrub which is so popular in gardens. Occasionally, it is is a
:25:36. > :25:46.question of somebody giving you a plant? Sometimes a shoot will arise
:25:47. > :25:48.which has a particular characteristic, and somebody finds
:25:49. > :26:01.that plant that has come from nowhere in their garden. That
:26:02. > :26:05.Saltwood Summer that we launched a few years ago. We see lots of new
:26:06. > :26:12.plants coming on to the market here at Chelsea. Some, like Aztec Pearl,
:26:13. > :26:16.are here 30 years later. Some last a few years and some disappear after a
:26:17. > :26:21.season. I can't imagine you disappearing! You are a stayer! I
:26:22. > :26:25.hope so. We are celebrating 150 years this year. We are looking
:26:26. > :26:29.forward to the next 150 and beyond! I hope we are here to stay!
:26:30. > :26:34.All this week, we have been asking people from different creative
:26:35. > :26:38.worlds to review Chelsea for us. Tonight, we welcome the furniture
:26:39. > :26:43.designer, David Linley. Thank you for joining us. You are no stranger
:26:44. > :26:48.to Chelsea? No. I love being here. My shop is just around the corner. I
:26:49. > :26:51.have been coming here all my life. And every time I come here, I always
:26:52. > :26:55.see something that inspires me, or gives one some kind of thought that
:26:56. > :26:58.you never believe that you would see anywhere else. What did you pick out
:26:59. > :27:04.this year? I have seen all sorts of things here, from the tree, with I
:27:05. > :27:08.spouts water, which was inspired by my father when he saw it at
:27:09. > :27:13.Chatsworth, where he made for us in the garden the tiny spray that
:27:14. > :27:17.turned into miniature rainbows. It was lovely to see those sort of
:27:18. > :27:24.things and the vegetables are the things that I enjoy. As a designer,
:27:25. > :27:28.as a craftsman, how do you feel gardeners are approaching Chelsea in
:27:29. > :27:31.particular and gardening in general? Brilliantly. It is always inspiring
:27:32. > :27:37.to see the new designs, the new ways that people think about the actual
:27:38. > :27:39.fragments and the way that you put gardens together. And I think it is
:27:40. > :27:43.always inspiring to see the young coming through, which is what I am
:27:44. > :27:46.always passionate about in terms of making people, getting people to
:27:47. > :27:50.make things, seeing things and designing things, which is what this
:27:51. > :27:57.country is so good at. Do you think you can apply the skills that you
:27:58. > :28:03.have to gardening? Absolutely. We had an exhibition in the shop about
:28:04. > :28:04.a month ago. That was all about celebrating craftsmanship,
:28:05. > :28:12.engineering, all the things that we do in this country in tiny
:28:13. > :28:17.workshops, small manufacturers, and our back gardens are no different.
:28:18. > :28:20.The inventiveness of this nation is fantastic and should be celebrated.
:28:21. > :28:25.That is why it is lovely to come here. How do you think - you want to
:28:26. > :28:32.see young people come through - but the fact is not enough are. Can we
:28:33. > :28:36.imply that ingenuity to get people interested? Get gardening is to have
:28:37. > :28:40.the opportunity, of either coming here, seeing things, having a small
:28:41. > :28:44.opportunity to look at ways of planting things, what they can do
:28:45. > :28:48.and see results. Also, maybe the speed at which you see results is
:28:49. > :28:52.sort of probably something quite fun, which you can do with pots.
:28:53. > :28:57.That is what people like, the instant gardening. Finally, when it
:28:58. > :29:00.comes to garden furniture, what should we be looking for? What is
:29:01. > :29:04.the key to really good garden furniture? To me, it is about
:29:05. > :29:09.longevity. I want something that I can put in the shed for the winter,
:29:10. > :29:14.or have the ability to sit out on the London terrace, have the same
:29:15. > :29:21.ability - longevity is the important thing. I made some furniture for our
:29:22. > :29:24.garden about 15 years ago. It was made in chestnut. It's gone white
:29:25. > :29:29.now. It is beautiful. It's got better with age. I tell you what,
:29:30. > :29:33.you will look around the show for us, so we will see that and we will
:29:34. > :29:35.review that later. Thank you for talking to us. Thank you for asking
:29:36. > :29:43.me. There has been lots of discussion
:29:44. > :29:49.this week about the shortage of women building gardens here at the
:29:50. > :29:55.show. One of the exceptions to this is Jo Thompson, who has built not
:29:56. > :29:59.just one, but two Gardens. Hello, Jo. I am so thrilled to be here. I
:30:00. > :30:04.think your garden looks utterly beautiful. You have gold for the one
:30:05. > :30:09.outside and silver gilt in here. It is brilliant, I am thrilled. Let's
:30:10. > :30:15.take a closer look. Let's start with that corner. Lets go. That orange
:30:16. > :30:20.and purple go wonderfully together. What I was inspired work by were the
:30:21. > :30:20.colours of sunset reds and origins that I wanted to reproduce that in
:30:21. > :30:26.this garden. This is that I wanted to reproduce that in
:30:27. > :30:29.cashmere purple, isn't it? I love that I wanted to reproduce that in
:30:30. > :30:33.the way it starts to grow through all the other plants, finding its
:30:34. > :30:38.own way, getting higher. It is a fabulous plant. This corner is
:30:39. > :30:47.completely different. It is so soft and woodland. These foxgloves, so
:30:48. > :30:53.subtle. Is it certain's apricots? I love this apical pink, tinged with
:30:54. > :31:01.white. The white carries on with the cow parsley. It has a completely
:31:02. > :31:04.wonderful flower shape. You just want to touch it and squeeze those.
:31:05. > :31:11.It is fabulous, really want to touch it and squeeze those.
:31:12. > :31:24.is an enemy won Plant Of The Year at Chelsea, didn't it? --
:31:25. > :31:25.is an enemy won Plant Of The Year at It is White Swan. The whole garden
:31:26. > :31:30.is surrounded by these stone It is White Swan. The whole garden
:31:31. > :31:35.They are beautiful. I had never made a dry stone wall in my life, but
:31:36. > :31:40.weak at the curving walls built in three days, quite a feat. They are
:31:41. > :31:46.very feminine. This whole space is friendly, isn't it? I wanted
:31:47. > :31:53.somewhere you could walk through and where people would stop and be able
:31:54. > :31:58.to sit and have a nice time. Why do you think that there are so few
:31:59. > :32:01.women garden designers exhibiting on the main avenue? It is
:32:02. > :32:06.extraordinary, considering they are so good at it. I don't understand
:32:07. > :32:12.why they are not there. Maybe a lot of women give up, when they have
:32:13. > :32:18.children. I had children. You haven't given up though. I took a
:32:19. > :32:21.year out. It is efficiency. You have to be efficient, like you are at
:32:22. > :32:25.home, doing the school run, organising a house. The same here.
:32:26. > :32:30.It is a question of being in control. They need to be given the
:32:31. > :32:39.chance. And they need to persevere. Push, push, push. A shrinking
:32:40. > :32:43.violet, that I am. We started the week looking at
:32:44. > :32:46.Gardners -- Gardens associated with World War I but we have left a
:32:47. > :32:51.special story until the end. An intriguing tale that has come to
:32:52. > :32:56.light is the amazing relationship between the RHS and a group of
:32:57. > :33:00.English refugees trapped in Germany in 1914. I'm joined by Fiona
:33:01. > :33:05.Davison, head of RHS libraries and exhibitions and Norman Wilkinson,
:33:06. > :33:09.whose father was one of refugees. What happened?
:33:10. > :33:16.He had been working in Germany and was rounded up with 5000 other in
:33:17. > :33:25.which men and was sent to the concentration camp. It was near
:33:26. > :33:30.Berlin. When they were there, was it an established prison? What were
:33:31. > :33:34.prisons like? It was a racecourse, just outside Berlin, six miles
:33:35. > :33:38.outside Berlin. The horses had been removed. There was nothing there.
:33:39. > :33:44.Nothing there except horse dung, which they had to clear out. How did
:33:45. > :33:47.the RHS get involved? The prisoners had to fill their time and
:33:48. > :33:52.eventually some began gardening in biscuit tins on a small scale.
:33:53. > :33:58.Wanting to do things properly, they set up a horticultural Society and
:33:59. > :34:02.they wrote to us to ask if they could be affiliated. We have copies
:34:03. > :34:07.of those letters. There is one sentence I read that I found
:34:08. > :34:12.incredibly employing it -- it was incredibly poignant. We are unable
:34:13. > :34:16.to admit the usual fee but trust we are enjoying the privileges of
:34:17. > :34:22.affiliation. These are people in a concentration camp. Your father.
:34:23. > :34:27.Yes. So you sent them seeds and materials. Absolutely. The fee did
:34:28. > :34:34.not trouble us! We said bolts and seized and instructions -- we sent
:34:35. > :34:39.bolts and seeds and instructions. We sent them instructions on how to do
:34:40. > :34:47.a flower show. Their main concern was to improve what they called the
:34:48. > :34:52.melancholy appearance of the camp, so they planted climbers to cover
:34:53. > :34:56.the barbed wire, that kind of thing. This is almost like something out of
:34:57. > :35:01.ripping yarns. Did they have prizes at the flower show? Absolutely, they
:35:02. > :35:06.did it properly by RHS standards. They had fruit and vegetable, rock
:35:07. > :35:10.garden, show gardens outside the barracks. What were the living
:35:11. > :35:17.conditions like for your father? Very bad. There were people in their
:35:18. > :35:22.cramped together. In the stable he was in, there were five other men.
:35:23. > :35:28.It was very cramped. No beds. They slept on a concrete floor. Did he
:35:29. > :35:32.keep any record of this? Yes, he did. He had a diary of what took
:35:33. > :35:37.place and what happened there and the conditions under which they
:35:38. > :35:43.suffered. This is it. This tiny little book. It had to be small.
:35:44. > :35:47.Tiny, tiny writing. It is beautiful. I must look with my
:35:48. > :35:53.glasses. It is an extraordinary record of 100 years ago. We had to
:35:54. > :36:00.go and break ice out of the lake and stuck it in the woods. Yes. These
:36:01. > :36:05.harsh conditions, the war raging on, they were having a flower show. Were
:36:06. > :36:11.they not growing field at all? Eventually, they did. In 1917 they
:36:12. > :36:17.borrowed money to buy equipment to build quite a large patch of ground
:36:18. > :36:22.in the middle of the racetrack, for vegetables. Eventually, it
:36:23. > :36:30.snowballed into a market garden. 2000 tomato plants, 8000 lettuces,
:36:31. > :36:33.16,000 leagues. So a lot. It is an extraordinary story. Thank you for
:36:34. > :36:38.coming along and sharing it with us. Thank you, absolutely amazing. The
:36:39. > :36:42.First World War as a theme taken by a number of exhibitors this year.
:36:43. > :36:47.One of the smaller Artisan Gardens has captured a very different moment
:36:48. > :37:00.from 1914. Joe went along to have a look.
:37:01. > :37:09.I am here on the Potters Garden and it represents a snapshot in time. A
:37:10. > :37:13.time when the potter who worked here went off to war as a volunteer in
:37:14. > :37:18.the First World War. It is a wonderfully evocative space. You do
:37:19. > :37:22.get the sense of someone just abandoned here. Probably full of
:37:23. > :37:28.hope to go and fight in the war. 200,000 people left in 1914. We know
:37:29. > :37:35.that over 1 million throughout the course of the war never returned.
:37:36. > :37:42.There are things dotted around here that we now know are from the war
:37:43. > :37:47.itself. Did he come back, or didn't he come back? That Mr E has been
:37:48. > :37:54.left open for us to decide. -- the mystery. There is a lovely
:37:55. > :37:59.harmonious feel to the garden with the potter's clay. The tiles on the
:38:00. > :38:07.roof are punctuated with this semper Vivian and the mosque. The discards,
:38:08. > :38:17.you can imagine them creating the pavement to this garden as well. He
:38:18. > :38:22.made his own hot out there, and original hopper, in 1914. The
:38:23. > :38:28.downpipe feeds the water with a lovely water lily in it. That has
:38:29. > :38:33.2014 on it. It is 100 years on, commemorating the start of World War
:38:34. > :38:37.I. There are things in this garden that bring us up to the present
:38:38. > :38:39.date. In a way, it is also looking back. There are two different sorts
:38:40. > :38:51.going on. It is quite interesting. Every single thing in this garden
:38:52. > :38:56.has been thought about meticulously. I love these little bullet shells
:38:57. > :39:00.dotted through the plants and also studying the steps and the paving
:39:01. > :39:03.here. The thing about these Artisan Gardens and especially this one is
:39:04. > :39:08.you get a real sense of intimacy about it. It is a fantastic garden,
:39:09. > :39:12.a beautiful garden in its own right. But the more you understand about it
:39:13. > :39:24.and the story behind it, the deeper it goes and the better it gets.
:39:25. > :39:30.Our guest designer today is David Linley, the furniture maker. As we
:39:31. > :39:31.heard earlier, he is a Chelsea regular. What has he made of this
:39:32. > :39:48.year's show? Cleve West garden here, as you can
:39:49. > :39:54.see, is a very interesting design. It is a very peaceful place. It is a
:39:55. > :40:02.very tranquil place. Build high and English cross man. -- built by an
:40:03. > :40:07.English craftsmen. If a look at garden design from furniture design,
:40:08. > :40:11.it is an interesting perspective. There is furniture in Gardens,
:40:12. > :40:16.whether it is benches or outside darning -- dining areas, some
:40:17. > :40:20.lounges. All sorts of things. I look at how I can bring a sense of
:40:21. > :40:25.tranquillity and a sense of excitement and surprise but again,
:40:26. > :40:33.using the elements you have here such as box, yew hedges, things that
:40:34. > :40:37.move with the wind. Something I would love to incorporate is a sign
:40:38. > :40:45.when you look out of the window in the morning you can see the change
:40:46. > :40:51.of seasons. We are here in a vegetable patch mainly because I
:40:52. > :40:51.particularly enjoy vegetables and I enjoy planting vegetables. I
:40:52. > :40:57.encourage my children to enjoy planting vegetables. I
:40:58. > :41:02.join planting vegetables as well. It is very important for them to
:41:03. > :41:06.understand seasonality, in a time now when we can get anything from
:41:07. > :41:10.any convenience store at any time of year, it is fabulous to look forward
:41:11. > :41:14.to the first asparagus, the first strawberry that you planted and
:41:15. > :41:19.really enjoy that taste of getting a bit of grit in your teeth.
:41:20. > :41:21.really enjoy that taste of getting a occasional hosepipe. With my design
:41:22. > :41:27.hat on, looking at the way a vegetable garden can look also quite
:41:28. > :41:31.a part of what I enjoy. Whether they are raised beds or if they have
:41:32. > :41:39.wicker around the side, that to me has an incredible part of the
:41:40. > :41:49.We are standing in Adam Frost designed garden. The wind is blowing
:41:50. > :41:54.through the wild flowers, the grasses. My thoughts on seeing this
:41:55. > :42:00.garden very much remind me of my childhood. Just seeing lovely
:42:01. > :42:06.Meadows is a very important part of what I like to do, go walking in the
:42:07. > :42:07.hills or grand spaces. For me, this is a lovely space where you can
:42:08. > :42:21.allow your mind to expand and relax. I think a good garden feels
:42:22. > :42:27.somewhere that you want to spend time, that you don't want to rush
:42:28. > :42:31.out of, that you want to sit. And enjoy, particularly in the sunshine.
:42:32. > :42:36.Somewhere you can read a book in the corner, out of the wind. Somewhere
:42:37. > :42:42.to enjoy the work that you have put into creating it.
:42:43. > :42:48.There has been a long history of city councils exhibiting here at
:42:49. > :42:54.Chelsea and two displays by Birmingham and Stoke-on-Trent will
:42:55. > :43:00.this year leave really good memories for tens of thousands of visitors.
:43:01. > :43:03.But for the councils themselves, how important is it to be here?
:43:04. > :43:08.Particularly in such tough economic times. I'm joined by the designer
:43:09. > :43:12.Annita Gibson from Stoke-on-Trent and Darren Share, head of parks and
:43:13. > :43:14.nurseries at Birmingham City Council. I am not sure I got your
:43:15. > :43:24.title right, Darren! Why are you here? We promote the
:43:25. > :43:28.city and raise the profile of the city. It is important we are not as
:43:29. > :43:34.a Gotham City in between Manchester and Birmingham and people realise we
:43:35. > :43:37.have developed into a contemporary technological city -- we're not a
:43:38. > :43:42.forgotten city. It is important we are here. It gives us an opportunity
:43:43. > :43:46.to get the wider community involved, schools and local
:43:47. > :43:51.businesses, in an event they may not otherwise be able to come to. It is
:43:52. > :43:56.taking Stoke to London and boosting the city generally. Is that true of
:43:57. > :43:59.Birmingham? Profile is really important for us to get people to
:44:00. > :44:03.understand what we are about in Birmingham. It is about keeping
:44:04. > :44:06.traditions alive. As we move into grounds maintenance we want to get
:44:07. > :44:11.horticulture back into Birmingham parks. We have been using our
:44:12. > :44:15.apprentices down here. I gather you have fired six new apprentices. Six
:44:16. > :44:21.new apprentices this year, working not only down here in Chelsea but on
:44:22. > :44:25.the design in the nursery is doing the carpet bedding, which is really
:44:26. > :44:31.important. How many plants do you produce a year? About 2.5 million.
:44:32. > :44:37.It is a lot. Is that the safe in Stoke? Do you produce a lot of your
:44:38. > :44:41.own material? I am afraid I can't say any of it has come from
:44:42. > :44:45.Stoke-on-Trent, although the roses have come from Staffordshire, from
:44:46. > :44:48.David Austin, who has donated them. We used to have nurseries but
:44:49. > :44:52.unfortunately due to the cuts we have lost close. It is something I
:44:53. > :44:57.hope will come back providing we can get some money to fund that. Talking
:44:58. > :45:01.about cuts, how much do these cost? How much did your display cost?
:45:02. > :45:10.How much do they cost overall? Around 35,000. How much came from
:45:11. > :45:16.the council? We haven't sold the plants off. At the moment between
:45:17. > :45:20.3,000 to 5,000. As little as that? Yes. What about Stoke? With Stoke it
:45:21. > :45:25.is more about the value. How much did it cost? The short answer is I
:45:26. > :45:30.don't know! OK. Like, Darren, a lot of the items will be sold off. Was
:45:31. > :45:35.there not a budget for the garden? There was. What was it? I probably
:45:36. > :45:38.shouldn't say. Why not? Please do. I don't know what it is. OK. Are we
:45:39. > :45:49.talking hundreds of thousands? It was a lot of money. How much of that
:45:50. > :45:53.came from the council? Well, there's - Bartholomew Landscaping have put
:45:54. > :45:59.half of the costs. A lot of the items have been sponsored. The
:46:00. > :46:03.question is - is it good value for money for the council to be here at
:46:04. > :46:06.Chelsea? Is the return good enough? Last year, we did a quick cost
:46:07. > :46:11.estimate of the value of the publicity. You have to be very
:46:12. > :46:16.quick. "Yes" or "no"? It was around ?1.5 million. Same for Birmingham?
:46:17. > :46:20.Yes. Brilliant. I am delighted because I want to see you back. You
:46:21. > :46:27.have given a lot of pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. One parks
:46:28. > :46:35.department which has exhibited at Chelsea for years was Leeds City
:46:36. > :46:39.Council. Christine Walkden has been to
:46:40. > :46:45.Roundhay Park. Anyone who has followed the Chelsea
:46:46. > :46:49.Flower Show over the years would instantly recognise the stunning
:46:50. > :47:00.gardens created by Leeds City Council.
:47:01. > :47:04.What makes these gardens so special is they live on here at Roundhay
:47:05. > :47:14.Park in Leeds. So that hundreds of visitors can
:47:15. > :47:20.enjoy them as Chelsea visitors have in the past.
:47:21. > :47:34.I'm here to meet Dean Lockwood, a pivotal force in all of Leeds
:47:35. > :47:37.gardens at Chelsea. Why was the decision made to bring the gardens
:47:38. > :47:41.back home? The vast majority of people in Leeds are not going to go
:47:42. > :47:45.down to London and see the gardens down there. It is so nice to see
:47:46. > :47:46.them altogether? It is. It completes the picture. There is a story here
:47:47. > :47:55.now. This is our 2008 entry, the Largest
:47:56. > :48:00.Room in the House. It was the first of the four that we have re-created
:48:01. > :48:04.at Roundhay Park. How difficult was it? You don't just dig it up and
:48:05. > :48:08.throw it in the back of a lorry? The hard landscaping gets taken down
:48:09. > :48:12.piece by piece, gets put in crates and brought back. It is probably
:48:13. > :48:15.just as difficult to take it down and keep it in order as it is to
:48:16. > :48:19.build it. It is like a jigsaw puzzle, really? It is, yes. So this
:48:20. > :48:26.was the 2009 Rain Garden? It was. puzzle, really? It is, yes. So this
:48:27. > :48:30.How does it work? It works by, if you look at the garden as a whole,
:48:31. > :48:37.it is in the shape of a bowl, so it captures all the rain water and
:48:38. > :48:47.contains it in this area. Fairly straightforward garden plants?
:48:48. > :48:50.Irises, hostas, the geums. Lots of architectural shapes as well? Yes.
:48:51. > :48:57.There is nothing in here that you would struggle to buy in most garden
:48:58. > :49:02.centres. So, this was the garden that got Leeds its first Gold. How
:49:03. > :49:06.did that feel? Incredible. I don't think you can put it down to words.
:49:07. > :49:14.It is very hard to describe. The sense of pride was tangible? It is
:49:15. > :49:17.amazing. You don't think it is scriptured. When something like that
:49:18. > :49:21.happens, it is unbelievable. How does the planting differ? I remember
:49:22. > :49:25.a meadow over there and it is now not a meadow. Why have you changed
:49:26. > :49:31.it? We have to. These gardens are real gardens. It's not - it's still
:49:32. > :49:42.got that wow factor with the lock gate that we had
:49:43. > :49:50.In 2011, another Gold for their stunning Water Wheel Garden. You are
:49:51. > :49:56.using general garden plants here. You have a sunny area, a shady area.
:49:57. > :50:00.Look at that? It sets the scene. Then, when people that come along,
:50:01. > :50:03.and they see the plants that we have got here. If we can grow them here,
:50:04. > :50:06.they will be able to grow them as well.
:50:07. > :50:13.Do you feel there is a great sense of pride in bringing a garden back
:50:14. > :50:17.from Chelsea? Definitely. I wish they had the money to do it for
:50:18. > :50:21.successive years. I had friends who were going to move from the area.
:50:22. > :50:25.They decided not to because they love Roundhay Park so much. So a
:50:26. > :50:28.very important part of the community? Definitely. It is well
:50:29. > :50:36.supported. We love it. I think it's incredible, that the
:50:37. > :50:41.skills, the I think it's incredible, that the
:50:42. > :50:45.knowledge of a park's department taking a garden to Chelsea
:50:46. > :50:47.knowledge of a park's department live on. Here at Roundhay Park,
:50:48. > :50:52.these gardens are going to live on. Here at Roundhay Park,
:50:53. > :51:02.I was talking to Wayne Hemingway the absolutely splendid.
:51:03. > :51:06.I was talking to Wayne Hemingway the other day. He was keen that all the
:51:07. > :51:09.gardens should be recycled. That should be in the brief? It should
:51:10. > :51:13.be. People always ask me what happens to these gardens after the
:51:14. > :51:19.show. The plants, where do they go? Do they live on? Pretty much all the
:51:20. > :51:23.plants have another life. The trees get lifted, they are very expensive,
:51:24. > :51:26.the perennials are planted in their pots anyway, nurseries take them
:51:27. > :51:30.back and grow them on. There are some elements that can be lifted,
:51:31. > :51:33.sculpture, furniture... You are talking about breaking them up?
:51:34. > :51:37.Things like paving, to lift a slab of paving that's been properly laid,
:51:38. > :51:41.you have to lift it, clean it, transport it, store it and it
:51:42. > :51:46.becomes uneconomical. It is impossible, it is not worth it. The
:51:47. > :51:53.Rich Brothers are taking their garden as it is to Beechwood
:51:54. > :51:59.Autistic College near Cardiff. It has a purpose built into it from day
:52:00. > :52:06.one. I like that idea? Hugo Bugg, that is going to Brixton in Lambeth,
:52:07. > :52:11.they will lift part of it. They have to adapt it. They are not going to
:52:12. > :52:25.drop that entire garden in. You have to re-design it. I called Hugo Bugg
:52:26. > :52:30."Matthew Bugg". I do feel that the public like the idea of a second
:52:31. > :52:34.life, apart from anything else these are wonderful gardens. We want to
:52:35. > :52:39.see them as gardens rather than rescuing bits of them? Certainly. I
:52:40. > :52:45.think the whole aspect of recycling is important, but this is a show.
:52:46. > :52:49.The amount of energy and cost, it's a seriously big bill that goes into
:52:50. > :52:55.a show, three weeks build and it is here for a week and it gets
:52:56. > :53:00.disbanded. It is just a show. What a show! All of us come to Chelsea
:53:01. > :53:05.Flower Show and take something away, even if it is not a complete garden
:53:06. > :53:09.- ideas, inspiration, maybe something we have bought. We have
:53:10. > :53:11.asked our team if they could take one thing, anything, from the show
:53:12. > :53:25.this year, what would it be? What would I take home from Chelsea?
:53:26. > :53:30.This Pavilion would be good. Imagine this for entertaining.
:53:31. > :53:37.This is going to be a deep and enduring love. This is one of the
:53:38. > :53:47.most beautiful things I have ever seen. It comes from Japan. Isn't it
:53:48. > :53:54.lovely? The Cave Pavilion by Sophie Walker. I love it. It's fantastic to
:53:55. > :53:59.see innovative, modern design that is very attractive, full of
:54:00. > :54:03.horticultural interest, done by somebody young, by a woman, and
:54:04. > :54:06.which really engages its subject with passion. And the subject is the
:54:07. > :54:16.need to conserve our plants. I never thought I would get so
:54:17. > :54:21.excited about concrete paving, but what I would take home from Chelsea
:54:22. > :54:25.is this. Each piece is individually cut, it is beautiful, it is a work
:54:26. > :54:38.of art. It is like the bottom of a dried-out pond. Superb! How could I
:54:39. > :54:46.not love these? On a personal level, if I could get away with it, I would
:54:47. > :54:49.steal the Japanese designer! Looking at his garden, if he came home with
:54:50. > :54:55.me, hopefully he could create the same magic in my back yard!
:54:56. > :55:05.If there was one thing I would take away from the show, it would be a
:55:06. > :55:13.view, it would be the view on he the Cloudy Bay Sensory Garden. The eye
:55:14. > :55:16.is drawn all the way down to this wonderful marble sculpture. It is a
:55:17. > :55:22.brilliant idea. That view would be mine!
:55:23. > :55:27.So often we think of Chelsea Flower Show as being all about the
:55:28. > :55:31.aesthetics and, for me, the piece I would take home is slightly more
:55:32. > :55:36.intangible. It is the most evocative and sensious element of a garden -
:55:37. > :55:42.it is fragrance and no better than that of the rose.
:55:43. > :55:48.Well, I have got with me here Sue Biggs and James Alexander Sinclair
:55:49. > :55:53.from the RHS. I have to ask you, Sue, what would you take home from
:55:54. > :55:58.this year's show? I think the thing I would take home is what a happy,
:55:59. > :56:04.fantastic Chelsea this has been. It really reinforces how great
:56:05. > :56:10.gardening is for everybody's soul. It makes everybody so happy. It has
:56:11. > :56:13.had a good vibe? It has. There's been an energy and a happiness about
:56:14. > :56:18.it that I have certainly never felt in my four years at the RHS. That is
:56:19. > :56:23.pretty good. I thought you might want to take a garden bench with
:56:24. > :56:27.you! I'm interested from you, James, about the judging process, the new
:56:28. > :56:31.process, how has it gone down? What feed back have you had from
:56:32. > :56:36.designers and exhibitors? The vast majority of designers and exhibitors
:56:37. > :56:41.are happy with the way we have done it. You think we got it spot on the
:56:42. > :56:47.button and the gardeners and the designers agree. One thing I want to
:56:48. > :56:57.ask is you have your nine categories. Where's the category for
:56:58. > :57:02.love? You are such an old hippy! I am! We are being asked to judge
:57:03. > :57:06.apples against pears. Some judges would love one more than the other.
:57:07. > :57:09.In order to do that, we have to remove the love from that and we
:57:10. > :57:13.leave the love with the designers and the people who have created
:57:14. > :57:20.these gardens and with you who are looking at them. It is interesting
:57:21. > :57:26.that the BBC viewers' award went to a garden that people felt very
:57:27. > :57:33.passionately about? As it should. Something that concerns me is
:57:34. > :57:42.because you have this new tick box system, their gardens might become a
:57:43. > :57:46.little formulaic? What we are not doing is telling them how to design
:57:47. > :57:52.their gardens. This is giving a way of judging. Well, I have a feeling
:57:53. > :57:58.this will run and run. OK. You will have the final word, Sue. What will
:57:59. > :58:02.you take forward to next year? I think, for me, the most important
:58:03. > :58:05.thing to take forward is to have the courage to make changes. We have
:58:06. > :58:11.made changes by bringing, whether it is new judging rules and our judges
:58:12. > :58:14.are fantastic, or for us to bring in really young talent. We have the
:58:15. > :58:18.world's best and the new talent and the sponsors have been brave enough
:58:19. > :58:23.to believe in those youngsters. Thank you. Thank you very much. And
:58:24. > :58:28.that is it for this evening. We will be back here tomorrow on BBC Two at
:58:29. > :58:33.8.00pm. Nicki Chapman will be joining us for the excitement of the
:58:34. > :59:06.traditional Chelsea sell-off. Until then, bye-bye. Bye-bye.
:59:07. > :59:08.Ted, I wondered if... I'm not interested
:59:09. > :59:17.part of the big bumper bank holiday comedy 50th birthday weekend.
:59:18. > :59:28.MUSIC: "Black Wave" by the Raveonettes
:59:29. > :59:32.And you must be the famous Dr Quirke.