Sittingbourne

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04Help, help, help. Help, help, help.

0:00:04 > 0:00:06What's going on?

0:00:06 > 0:00:11One of today's house hunters is a retired train driver.

0:00:11 > 0:00:13And this is how we find out?!

0:00:13 > 0:00:14Aaargh!

0:00:24 > 0:00:27Ed, thank you so much for saving my life.

0:00:27 > 0:00:29I think you'll find it'll be worth it.

0:00:29 > 0:00:33That's all right, Rani. You'll be thanking me more for that

0:00:33 > 0:00:37and for finding today's house hunters the property of their dreams in Kent.

0:00:37 > 0:00:40Seriously, we're still going to help them find a home

0:00:40 > 0:00:41after what he did to me?

0:00:41 > 0:00:43Yes, he tied you to a train track, Rani,

0:00:43 > 0:00:45but we're in the housing game, OK?

0:00:45 > 0:00:48Don't let a small thing like a man tying you to a train track

0:00:48 > 0:00:52hold you back from doing what you do best, OK? We should still do it.

0:00:52 > 0:00:54Ed, he tied me to a train track.

0:00:54 > 0:00:56Oh, choo, choo(!)

0:00:58 > 0:01:00Go on, of course I'll help Derek and Kathy.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02It's not like he really tied me to a train track.

0:01:02 > 0:01:06- Who would help him find a house then?- It's a very good point.

0:01:06 > 0:01:09I could have helped but it's not much fun doing it alone.

0:01:09 > 0:01:11Having driven trains for over 30 years,

0:01:11 > 0:01:15Derek's decided to put on the brakes and let off steam.

0:01:15 > 0:01:19Derek and Kathy are keen to downsize and put some cash in reserve.

0:01:19 > 0:01:24But this is a bit of a balancing act. They need a place smaller than their current four-bed home...

0:01:24 > 0:01:27But big enough to stop them going off the rails.

0:01:27 > 0:01:29Please tell me that's the last train reference.

0:01:29 > 0:01:32I hope so. I really hope so.

0:01:32 > 0:01:38Welcome to the show. Derek, former train driver, I'm assuming your train was exactly like this.

0:01:38 > 0:01:41- I'm afraid not, no.- This is like a busman's holiday for you.

0:01:41 > 0:01:45It is, it is 45 years on the railway and I come to this.

0:01:45 > 0:01:48You worked on the trains for years, but we've put that behind us now

0:01:48 > 0:01:53and that's why we're looking for a new house and a whole new start for you guys.

0:01:53 > 0:01:58Our boys have all grown up, we want to downsize, so that's what we're looking for now.

0:01:58 > 0:02:02- OK, downsizing. How many bedrooms do you have at the moment?- Four.

0:02:02 > 0:02:06- And we're looking to lose...?- One.

0:02:06 > 0:02:10- THEY LAUGH - That's not much of a downsize, is it, really? Come on!

0:02:10 > 0:02:11It's an easy thing to say, "downsize".

0:02:11 > 0:02:15We've tackled many a downsize and you have hit the classic thing

0:02:15 > 0:02:17of not really wanting to downsize much.

0:02:17 > 0:02:22What are the things you can't do without, from having a four-bedroomed house?

0:02:22 > 0:02:23And don't say four bedrooms!

0:02:26 > 0:02:30- Outside space. - We've looked at flats with big balconies which we don't mind,

0:02:30 > 0:02:32but we really would like a garden.

0:02:32 > 0:02:37Realistically, if you are going to downsize you will have to lose space in your lovely home now.

0:02:37 > 0:02:42When Kath says she'd like three bedrooms, I mean, two good-size bedrooms...

0:02:42 > 0:02:45- Oh!- Wow!- Yeah, yeah.

0:02:45 > 0:02:48I want somewhere to put my exercise bike and the computer.

0:02:48 > 0:02:51So a boxroom would be ideal.

0:02:51 > 0:02:53What else could we lose from our home?

0:02:53 > 0:02:59- We could easily lose a dining area, if we had room in the kitchen. - Kitchen-diner?- Yeah.

0:02:59 > 0:03:03All right. So styles of property, you are prepared to look at apartments?

0:03:03 > 0:03:08Would you look at houses? Are you still into the idea of houses? Do you want bungalows?

0:03:08 > 0:03:10I don't really want a bungalow.

0:03:10 > 0:03:12Don't want a bungalow.

0:03:12 > 0:03:14OK, you don't have to have a bungalow!

0:03:14 > 0:03:17- You want two floors. You want it to feel like a house, still.- Yeah.

0:03:17 > 0:03:20- That wouldn't bother me. - You're the easy one.

0:03:20 > 0:03:22I know. Very easy.

0:03:22 > 0:03:25Derek, he's our man.

0:03:25 > 0:03:28What about areas? You're in Sittingbourne.

0:03:28 > 0:03:33Would you like to stay within Sittingbourne or would you like to move further afield?

0:03:33 > 0:03:37- Within...20 minutes of Sittingbourne.- 20 minutes, half an hour.

0:03:37 > 0:03:42- So if we're needed to baby-sit we could get back to help out... - Easily.

0:03:42 > 0:03:45- You have grandkids here?- Yes.

0:03:45 > 0:03:48Are there places you've had a look at and fancy the idea of living in?

0:03:48 > 0:03:50What names have you got?

0:03:50 > 0:03:53Iwade, a nice village, which is expanding.

0:03:53 > 0:03:55How much money have we got?

0:03:55 > 0:03:57- 170?- Yeah.

0:03:57 > 0:04:01170. Would you go any higher, or are we saying 170?

0:04:01 > 0:04:04- 180 max.- I've got you up £10,000!

0:04:04 > 0:04:07- It didn't take much! - We'd prefer 170.

0:04:07 > 0:04:09170 is comfortable.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12You could look at 180, maybe haggle back. That's the plan.

0:04:12 > 0:04:14Well, that's not bad, is it?

0:04:14 > 0:04:19OK, £180,000. Two-and-a-half bedrooms and a bit of outdoor space.

0:04:19 > 0:04:22It's achievable. Shall we fire this up and head off on the house hunt?

0:04:22 > 0:04:25- I'll go and do it. - Go on then, Derek. Get down there!

0:04:25 > 0:04:27We're going to get Derek to do this.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29He has never driven one of these before,

0:04:29 > 0:04:33it might take a couple of minutes. We'll see you in a bit.

0:04:33 > 0:04:37Ed, they're downsizing, they want to keep some money in the bank.

0:04:37 > 0:04:41£170,000 would have been enough, why would you push them to 180?

0:04:41 > 0:04:44Because we're very near to London. Very near to London, right?

0:04:44 > 0:04:46£180,000, I think, is reasonable.

0:04:46 > 0:04:49Probably not even enough for a three-bedroom house, what they want.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52A downsize with 170, might be too much of a downsize.

0:04:52 > 0:04:53Rani, I'm concerned.

0:04:53 > 0:04:57You know what? I think I should learn more about this area.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00OK, well I'm going to talk to an estate agent about £180,000.

0:05:00 > 0:05:02Let's go.

0:05:02 > 0:05:05Steeped in history, Sittingbourne started out as a Roman settlement

0:05:05 > 0:05:11and later became an ideal place for those on the Canterbury pilgrimages to stop off for a pint.

0:05:11 > 0:05:15Even Henry V downed a jar or two in the Red Lion after Agincourt.

0:05:15 > 0:05:21But in more modern times the town became famous for its massive paper mill that dominates the skyline.

0:05:21 > 0:05:28Once the biggest producer of newsprint in the world, it sadly printed its last reel in 2007.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31Which has meant industry's declined in Sittingbourne

0:05:31 > 0:05:36and residents tend to commute further afield to places like London for work these days.

0:05:36 > 0:05:41But does the easy one-hour commute to London make Sittingbourne an expensive place to live?

0:05:41 > 0:05:44Hold on to your horses, Rani, we're about to find out.

0:05:44 > 0:05:48But first, what can you get for 180 grand around the rest of the UK?

0:05:48 > 0:05:51In Maidstone, Kent there is this three-bed modern end-of-terrace.

0:05:51 > 0:05:54It has a kitchen-diner, living room

0:05:54 > 0:05:57and good-sized gardens at back and front.

0:05:57 > 0:05:59Up for sale for £180,000.

0:05:59 > 0:06:02Heading ever so slightly closer to the M25,

0:06:02 > 0:06:05there is this three-bed terrace in Gravesend with a lounge,

0:06:05 > 0:06:07diner and kitchen-breakfast room.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10It's on the market for £179,995.

0:06:10 > 0:06:14And inside Greater London you can get this three-bed semi-detached

0:06:14 > 0:06:18complete with kitchen-diner, lounge, garden and patio area,

0:06:18 > 0:06:20all for £175,000.

0:06:23 > 0:06:27So while I find out what Sittingbourne is all about,

0:06:27 > 0:06:30Ed's heading to Kathy's favourite village, Iwade,

0:06:30 > 0:06:32to speak to estate agent Becca.

0:06:32 > 0:06:34Lots of people do downsize to the village

0:06:34 > 0:06:36because it's a nice community.

0:06:36 > 0:06:39You have elderly people, you have families living here.

0:06:39 > 0:06:42In the First World War, Sittingbourne was used

0:06:42 > 0:06:44as a navigation point by German pilots

0:06:44 > 0:06:46to get their bearings into London.

0:06:46 > 0:06:48No need for gas masks these days, though.

0:06:48 > 0:06:52- Derek and Kathy have £180,000.- Right.

0:06:52 > 0:06:55They kind of want to spend £170,000 ideally.

0:06:55 > 0:06:57To be honest, around here, in their price range,

0:06:57 > 0:07:00easily, they can get a terrace, an end-of-terrace

0:07:00 > 0:07:03and, to be honest, if they go for older properties,

0:07:03 > 0:07:07there is a few older roads in Iwade, where you get more value for money.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10This place is full of good historic pubs and bars.

0:07:10 > 0:07:15As well as Henry V stopping at the Red Lion, Queen Victoria stayed at the Rose Inn.

0:07:15 > 0:07:17If they want something with less work,

0:07:17 > 0:07:19they're better going for a new property

0:07:19 > 0:07:22that's all done for them and they can move straight in.

0:07:22 > 0:07:27And Rod Hull, famous for his work alongside Emu, lived near Sittingbourne.

0:07:27 > 0:07:31It's also rumoured that Sir Bob Geldof is close by too.

0:07:31 > 0:07:32It must be posh then!

0:07:32 > 0:07:35Were you right, do they need £180,000?

0:07:35 > 0:07:39Earlier on I was nervous. I thought they'd need more than £180,000.

0:07:39 > 0:07:42But Rebecca has given me her guarantee.

0:07:42 > 0:07:45She has shaken on it and she says Kathy and Derek will be fine.

0:07:45 > 0:07:48The first property is in Iwade.

0:07:48 > 0:07:53It's a modern house, six years old, wooden frontage. Looks very in-keeping with the area.

0:07:53 > 0:07:56I think this will be the downsize of their dreams.

0:07:56 > 0:07:59Very good. Now, well, I'm keeping them within Sittingbourne,

0:07:59 > 0:08:03a place called Church Milton, not really a downsize at all.

0:08:03 > 0:08:06Loads of space. I think they'll be very happy here.

0:08:06 > 0:08:09Anyway, the wildcard. Everyone loves the wildcard.

0:08:09 > 0:08:12Now the wildcard, we have gone the radical gamble.

0:08:12 > 0:08:14Kathy, she likes the older property.

0:08:14 > 0:08:18So we have gone for a little bit of beauty - there she is.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21Just a picture of the back of the house on the estate agent's details.

0:08:21 > 0:08:25So these are the properties that Rani and myself, are plumping for.

0:08:25 > 0:08:27Where should we start today's journey?

0:08:27 > 0:08:31- Only fair to start at number one. - My one, the one with a wooden front.

0:08:34 > 0:08:38Property number one is in Kathy's favourite village of Iwade -

0:08:38 > 0:08:42a cute, wooden-fronted and very modern semi-detached in a semi-rural area.

0:08:42 > 0:08:44Just what they asked for.

0:08:44 > 0:08:46You're sounding very confident, Ed.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49And why not, Rani? This IS their new home.

0:08:50 > 0:08:57Kathy and Derek, Derek and Kathy, walk towards a property which I believe is THE property.

0:08:57 > 0:08:59This is what a downsize is all about. It's over there.

0:08:59 > 0:09:01It is the weather-boarded beauty.

0:09:01 > 0:09:06We are in Iwade. I think Iwade was near the top of your list for places.

0:09:06 > 0:09:10- It was one of them, yes. - What do we think about the house?

0:09:10 > 0:09:13I could be a wimp and ask you first, Derek, about the downsize

0:09:13 > 0:09:16because I think you are easier to please, but I'm brave.

0:09:16 > 0:09:18I'm that confident, I'll go to Kathy.

0:09:18 > 0:09:23Kathy, what do you think about the size and the concept and everything?

0:09:23 > 0:09:25I like it. Yes. I like the fact that

0:09:25 > 0:09:28you can see the greenery out the back.

0:09:28 > 0:09:32It's all-present. So we're good. Derek, of course you love this?

0:09:32 > 0:09:34THEY LAUGH

0:09:34 > 0:09:35I'm not sure about the cladding.

0:09:35 > 0:09:38- That worries me.- The building is only six years old.

0:09:38 > 0:09:41You have ten years on your buildings' guarantee.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44- Kathy wants a bus stop, Derek wants a pub.- Sorted.

0:09:44 > 0:09:46THEY LAUGH

0:09:46 > 0:09:47Derek is allowed a pub.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50You've got a coach that goes to London, if you want to do that,

0:09:50 > 0:09:52a train station down the road.

0:09:52 > 0:09:55- So you have everything sorted. Are you happy?- Very much so.

0:09:55 > 0:09:59- All boxes ticked?- Yes. - Three, two, one, into that house.

0:10:02 > 0:10:05Nice garden, Ed, but where's the view of the countryside?

0:10:05 > 0:10:09If you stand up on tippy-toes, that way.

0:10:09 > 0:10:11- How tall do you think I am? - Not that tall.

0:10:11 > 0:10:14It's a nice-sized kitchen.

0:10:14 > 0:10:17- This is ideal for us, just the two of us, isn't it?- Perfect.

0:10:17 > 0:10:22- I like the spotlights.- I think spotlights are a nice thing to have.

0:10:22 > 0:10:27Some people don't like them in kitchens cos you cast a shadow over the area you're chopping.

0:10:27 > 0:10:32- A nice hall as well. - You like a hallway, don't you? - I do like a nice hall.

0:10:32 > 0:10:33They do like the hallway.

0:10:34 > 0:10:36Oh, hall, not Hall.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39If they hadn't said "way" that joke would have worked perfectly.

0:10:39 > 0:10:43- This is a nice size. - It's a good size, isn't it? - It is, isn't it?

0:10:43 > 0:10:46- I like the patio doors out, as well. - Yeah.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49The French window. This is ideal for us.

0:10:49 > 0:10:53Big enough to put a few flowers in for Erin to run around in...

0:10:53 > 0:10:54and for me to sit in, of course.

0:10:54 > 0:10:59Hang about. Now I'm inside Kathy's mind. Kathy likes gardening.

0:11:01 > 0:11:04And this would be fine for my bike.

0:11:04 > 0:11:06Yeah, yeah and as an office.

0:11:06 > 0:11:11- Yeah, it's a good size, isn't it? - The computer there and my bike there would be fine.

0:11:11 > 0:11:14It's a bit tight. I think you'd have to have your bike there, Kath.

0:11:14 > 0:11:18I think the size of that bike is probably going to fill up the whole of that small room.

0:11:18 > 0:11:20It's just going right in the centre.

0:11:20 > 0:11:24- No, it is going on the right-hand. - Right in the centre.

0:11:24 > 0:11:28- Right in the centre.- I'm imagining the right-hand corner would be fine.

0:11:28 > 0:11:30- This is even better. - It is, isn't it?

0:11:30 > 0:11:33Yeah. A little girl's room.

0:11:33 > 0:11:36- THEY LAUGH - Nice view. - Keep it like this for Erin.

0:11:36 > 0:11:39- That does look nice up there, doesn't it?- It is nice, isn't it?

0:11:39 > 0:11:41Bathroom.

0:11:41 > 0:11:46That's nice. Nice and new, isn't it? The shower over the bath.

0:11:46 > 0:11:49That's the only thing. But it's nice.

0:11:49 > 0:11:51Again, it's a good size.

0:11:51 > 0:11:53Yes, there is no window in THAT bathroom,

0:11:53 > 0:11:57but in the en-suite there is a window and in the downstairs toilet there is a window.

0:11:57 > 0:12:02Statistically, there are more windows in washing facilities than there aren't.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05This is a good size, this is...

0:12:05 > 0:12:08Might need another wardrobe.

0:12:08 > 0:12:11That's my wardrobe. I don't know where you are putting your clothes.

0:12:11 > 0:12:13Exactly! I'll be in the other room.

0:12:13 > 0:12:15Oh, they have a shower unit.

0:12:15 > 0:12:19- Beautiful.- Brilliant! Oh, it's quite a good size as well.

0:12:19 > 0:12:22Oh, this is a real bonus.

0:12:22 > 0:12:24And a window.

0:12:24 > 0:12:27- Rani, do you remember where we are? - Iwade.

0:12:27 > 0:12:30I think we should now go and play guess the price.

0:12:30 > 0:12:31Very clever that, thank you.

0:12:34 > 0:12:36So, the house as a whole, what do you think?

0:12:36 > 0:12:41- Nice.- Yeah, very nice.- Like it. It's the sort of thing we're looking for.

0:12:41 > 0:12:43How much is this property worth, though?

0:12:43 > 0:12:47Ahh! You said your maximum budget was £180,000 at a real push.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49Are you competitive?

0:12:49 > 0:12:53- I hope so. - Kathy, how much do you think this property is on the market for?

0:12:53 > 0:12:56- £164,950.- OK.- How about you, Derek?

0:12:56 > 0:12:58- 160.- 160.

0:12:58 > 0:13:02Kathy, you are the closest, but you are a bit underneath the price.

0:13:02 > 0:13:04It is £174,495.

0:13:04 > 0:13:08So what do you think about the price of that, then?

0:13:08 > 0:13:12Yeah, it seems pretty good. I mean, it's what we were looking for.

0:13:12 > 0:13:13Seems like a done deal, Rani.

0:13:13 > 0:13:16I don't think it is a done deal because you still have to see

0:13:16 > 0:13:19- property number two and the wildcard.- You don't have to!

0:13:19 > 0:13:23- You do have to, I insist. Would you like to see property two?- Yes.

0:13:23 > 0:13:24- Let's go this way.- Go on.

0:13:24 > 0:13:27- Come on.- They don't know which way to go!- Oh, it's fine.

0:13:30 > 0:13:34While Ed may well have impressed with his quirky little number almost in the country,

0:13:34 > 0:13:36my solid and safe choice

0:13:36 > 0:13:40not a million miles from Derek and Kathy's current home

0:13:40 > 0:13:41is sure to be a winner.

0:13:41 > 0:13:46- Near where they already live? - Yes, but far enough to be a fresh start, don't you worry, Ed.

0:13:46 > 0:13:49OK, Kathy and Derek, welcome to property number two.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51Now this one is my choice.

0:13:51 > 0:13:55I've brought you to Church Milton, which is just round the corner from Sittingbourne.

0:13:55 > 0:13:58So do you know this area at all?

0:13:58 > 0:14:01- We live just round the corner.- Just around the corner from where you are.

0:14:01 > 0:14:04Which is perfect! So with that in mind,

0:14:04 > 0:14:08within this estate there is a doctor, a pharmacy, a grocer, a pub,

0:14:08 > 0:14:11which will probably be your local pub now.

0:14:11 > 0:14:14Not giving you a new pub or anything. A bus stop just down the road.

0:14:14 > 0:14:18The great thing about this place, it's got a Residents' Association.

0:14:18 > 0:14:22You pay £3 for the year and that gets a summer barbecue, fireworks display

0:14:22 > 0:14:25and Father Christmas comes to visit. Do you know about this?

0:14:25 > 0:14:27- Yeah, we're members. - THEY ALL LAUGH

0:14:27 > 0:14:31What does Rani not know about the area?

0:14:31 > 0:14:34- Take a look at the property. - A pretty property.- Very nice.

0:14:34 > 0:14:36Does it look like you're downsizing a lot?

0:14:36 > 0:14:39- Does it look spacious? - No, it does look spacious.

0:14:39 > 0:14:41- Yes, yes.- Very much so.

0:14:41 > 0:14:45OK, well, go into the house that you're pretty much familiar with -

0:14:45 > 0:14:49it's kind of a smaller version - and see what you think.

0:14:49 > 0:14:50I will be very intrigued.

0:14:50 > 0:14:53Also, do you know about the park that's opening up down there?

0:14:53 > 0:14:56- Yeah.- They know everything!

0:14:56 > 0:14:58Three, two, one, go in the house.

0:15:01 > 0:15:04- Nice hallway.- It is a nice hall.

0:15:04 > 0:15:06This is a nice lounge, isn't it?

0:15:06 > 0:15:09- This is just the right size.- It's got our fireplace as well, perfect.

0:15:09 > 0:15:13- Nearly got our suite as well. - THEY LAUGH

0:15:13 > 0:15:15Did you hear that? Did you hear that?

0:15:15 > 0:15:18I always say, "Never buy a house based on a sofa,"

0:15:18 > 0:15:21but they are going to buy this based on that sofa.

0:15:21 > 0:15:23- And that fireplace. - And that fireplace.

0:15:23 > 0:15:24A dining room as well.

0:15:24 > 0:15:27- It is a good size, isn't it? - It's lovely.

0:15:27 > 0:15:30I like patio doors out to the garden. Very, very nice.

0:15:30 > 0:15:32Now I don't want to blow the programme,

0:15:32 > 0:15:35but we are in the back garden in the afternoon,

0:15:35 > 0:15:37prime sun spot. This is lovely.

0:15:37 > 0:15:38It's scorchio.

0:15:38 > 0:15:41A similar size to the other one.

0:15:41 > 0:15:45- A nice size for us as well. - Yeah.- Nice cabinets as well.

0:15:45 > 0:15:48They're mentioning things as they go. They like the cupboards,

0:15:48 > 0:15:53- the kitchen is already done to their taste.- There is more emotional investment from them here.

0:15:53 > 0:15:57This looks like the smallest room. And it's not bad size, is it?

0:15:57 > 0:16:01This is a good size for us. We would get my exercise bike in quite easily.

0:16:01 > 0:16:04- Computer.- The computer would sit in the corner there.

0:16:04 > 0:16:07I think this is the second bedroom. It is a good size.

0:16:07 > 0:16:08It is a good size.

0:16:08 > 0:16:10Nicely decorated as well.

0:16:10 > 0:16:12Not too much to do to it, you know?

0:16:12 > 0:16:16- Decoration. I think this is more Derek and Kathy.- Mm-hm.

0:16:16 > 0:16:18They like all the little touches.

0:16:18 > 0:16:20Bathroom.

0:16:20 > 0:16:22- This is a good size. - Shower on the taps.

0:16:22 > 0:16:25You'd need to put in an electric shower,

0:16:25 > 0:16:29- but it is good enough for us anyway, the size we want, isn't it?- Yes.

0:16:29 > 0:16:32Oh, she shouldn't be saying that, "Good enough for us."

0:16:32 > 0:16:34It should be good enough for everyone.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36It should be good enough for the Queen.

0:16:36 > 0:16:40- This is the master bedroom.- Yes, this is a nice size as well.

0:16:42 > 0:16:44- Wardrobes.- A double wardrobe there.

0:16:44 > 0:16:46Now this is a proper master bedroom.

0:16:46 > 0:16:48Well, is it? Is it any more proper than my one?

0:16:48 > 0:16:51- It's a good size. They like it. - Has it got an en suite?

0:16:51 > 0:16:52Ooh, en suite.

0:16:52 > 0:16:55I didn't expect that!

0:16:55 > 0:16:57- It has!- All right, mine had that as well.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00It's got a window as well. Lovely. This is really nice.

0:17:00 > 0:17:04The other thing I would do there, if possible is put a full one in there.

0:17:04 > 0:17:06Yeah, a double one across there.

0:17:06 > 0:17:08Very good poker faces, Kathy and Derek.

0:17:08 > 0:17:11I have no idea if they like this house more or less than mine.

0:17:11 > 0:17:13I think they probably like my one more.

0:17:13 > 0:17:18- I'm quite a good poker player and I think they definitely like this one more.- Price will solve it.

0:17:21 > 0:17:25I thought you sounded like you liked it. Am I wrong to think that?

0:17:25 > 0:17:27- No, no, I loved it.- Yeah?- Yeah.

0:17:27 > 0:17:32It's a very nice house, lovely decorated. You wouldn't hardly have to do a thing.

0:17:32 > 0:17:37- Well, you've got lovely neighbours nearby, haven't you?- They are moving, actually.- Oh, are they(?)

0:17:37 > 0:17:42Shall we play guess the price then? So, at the moment, Kathy, you're in the lead.

0:17:42 > 0:17:45Now we had £180,000 to spend in guessing the price.

0:17:45 > 0:17:47We didn't really want to spend it all,

0:17:47 > 0:17:52but what do you believe this is on the market for...Derek?

0:17:52 > 0:17:56Well, after the mistake at the last one, I'm going to say 175.

0:17:56 > 0:17:58ED INHALES

0:17:58 > 0:18:01- OK, Kathy?- £169,500.

0:18:01 > 0:18:04You're not winning this one. It's actually Derek!

0:18:04 > 0:18:09£175, you said. This property is on the market at £180,000.

0:18:09 > 0:18:13- £180,000?!- Right at the top of your budget,

0:18:13 > 0:18:16but you have to say the finish in there is fantastic.

0:18:16 > 0:18:21- It would want to be, Rani Price!- It is spacious and it is a lovely area,

0:18:21 > 0:18:26as you know because you have lived here for the last, what, 15 years?

0:18:26 > 0:18:28How does that make you feel?

0:18:28 > 0:18:29See if they're open to an offer.

0:18:29 > 0:18:32- I like it.- All right. You see?

0:18:32 > 0:18:35There is one more property to go to and it is everyone's favourite.

0:18:35 > 0:18:37It's the wildcard. Are you excited?

0:18:37 > 0:18:40- We are.- We shall get to it, I believe, this way.

0:18:40 > 0:18:42- This way?- Come on.- This way.

0:18:44 > 0:18:48It's that time again, folks, when we test our buyers' patience

0:18:48 > 0:18:51with a property that might be a little left-field, shall we say?

0:18:51 > 0:18:56In today's case, the wildcard might not be so far from what Derek and Kathy have in mind.

0:18:56 > 0:19:00It might look a bit too old for their tastes on the outside.

0:19:00 > 0:19:04But the interior is gorgeous, with the conservatory of Kathy's dreams.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07Kathy and Derek, the wildcard. Everyone loves the wildcard

0:19:07 > 0:19:09and here we are at the wildcard.

0:19:09 > 0:19:11Now we have gone for character.

0:19:11 > 0:19:17Built around the 1900s. We are in Sittingbourne, pretty much nearish to the centre of Sittingbourne.

0:19:17 > 0:19:22So you're near the trains, near the local shops, you have a plethora of pubs.

0:19:22 > 0:19:25What do you think about where we are, the house? What do you reckon?

0:19:25 > 0:19:27I'm going to you, Kathy.

0:19:27 > 0:19:29- I like it.- You like it? - This is the sort of house...

0:19:29 > 0:19:32I mean, I like new ones, but I do like this sort of house.

0:19:32 > 0:19:36- So a bit of character is good for you.- What about you, Derek?

0:19:36 > 0:19:37I prefer new ones, generally.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40I wouldn't normally look at this sort of house.

0:19:40 > 0:19:44You were the easy one! You were supposed to be the easy one, Derek!

0:19:44 > 0:19:46OK, but now you can see it...

0:19:46 > 0:19:49It's not gone anywhere since 1900,

0:19:49 > 0:19:50it's solid

0:19:50 > 0:19:53and you were bothered by the woodwork, not underselling my one,

0:19:53 > 0:19:56but here there is very little to worry about, do you think?

0:19:56 > 0:20:00- No, it's true.- I've talked you round in seconds!- You have, actually!

0:20:00 > 0:20:03- So, Kathy, you're excited to go in, aren't you?- Yes.- Derek?

0:20:03 > 0:20:08- I do as I'm told.- Good, because you will have us to answer to as well!

0:20:08 > 0:20:09Three, two, one, into the wildcard.

0:20:09 > 0:20:12- The angry fingers come out again. - I'm angry!

0:20:12 > 0:20:14I told them about the wildcard being not as popular.

0:20:14 > 0:20:18- It'll be lovely. It'll be fine. - I- know that, but they don't.

0:20:21 > 0:20:24Rani, am I wrong to be concerned about the wildcard?

0:20:24 > 0:20:28- Not this one. This one is a winner. - But they are all winners, really.

0:20:28 > 0:20:31- This one really is a winner. - But Derek didn't like it! - He WILL like it.

0:20:31 > 0:20:35- Oh, this is nice.- It is bigger than what you imagine, isn't it?

0:20:35 > 0:20:37It is, isn't it? Lovely. I really like that.

0:20:37 > 0:20:40- The fireplace is gorgeous. - I like that, it's really nice.

0:20:40 > 0:20:42I like the fact that it's...

0:20:42 > 0:20:45We could get a three-seater one along here and one armchair.

0:20:45 > 0:20:46And an armchair in there.

0:20:46 > 0:20:49- I think Derek is being wooed by the wildcard.- Do you think?

0:20:49 > 0:20:52- I think so.- I think they're impressed with the size.

0:20:52 > 0:20:55They should be, it is a lovely size.

0:20:55 > 0:20:58This is nice - a good-sized dining room as well.

0:20:58 > 0:21:01Yeah, I really like this.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03Well, Kathy has continued her positive journey

0:21:03 > 0:21:06and is digging the house.

0:21:06 > 0:21:08Oh, there is a breakfast area as well.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11I like these units, but I don't like this side.

0:21:11 > 0:21:12- No, I don't mind that.- Do you?

0:21:12 > 0:21:15Yeah, a nice breakfast area, so you can just sit out here.

0:21:15 > 0:21:17Yeah. I like this.

0:21:17 > 0:21:19- They do like it.- It is positive.

0:21:19 > 0:21:25Kathy is leading Derek to order, maybe we could possibly read into it that Kathy likes it a lot.

0:21:25 > 0:21:28- Coming into a conservatory. - My favourite - a conservatory.

0:21:28 > 0:21:31Something we've always wanted, isn't it?

0:21:31 > 0:21:33Plenty of space for Erin to run around as well.

0:21:33 > 0:21:36- They could ramble around this garden! - They could!

0:21:36 > 0:21:39A little bit of greenery, nice open space for Erin to play in.

0:21:39 > 0:21:41- Quite steep stairs. - They are, aren't they?

0:21:41 > 0:21:42Steep stairs, Ed?

0:21:42 > 0:21:45Well, I was worried, I was worried about them.

0:21:45 > 0:21:50- A nice bathroom. A Jacuzzi bath and a decent showers as well.- Yeah.

0:21:52 > 0:21:55- You've got your study now, Kath. - This is perfect.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58- It would be perfect. - Plenty of room for my bike.- Yeah.

0:21:58 > 0:22:02Kathy is going to have to carry her exercise bike up them stairs.

0:22:02 > 0:22:04Kathy ain't! Derek's carrying it up there!

0:22:04 > 0:22:05Oh, this is a good size.

0:22:05 > 0:22:08- Plenty of room for a double bed in here.- Easily.

0:22:08 > 0:22:10- For if anybody stays. - And wardrobe space.

0:22:10 > 0:22:14Storage, cupboards in both bedrooms. Fact.

0:22:14 > 0:22:15And a nice big double bedroom.

0:22:15 > 0:22:18Oh, this is a good size, Kath.

0:22:18 > 0:22:21- Oh, I do like this.- This is massive.

0:22:21 > 0:22:24I've not heard Kathy use that word before, "massive",

0:22:24 > 0:22:26in any room and she said that in this room.

0:22:26 > 0:22:30That's the thing about Victorian houses, they are such good sizes.

0:22:30 > 0:22:32She knows about houses, does Kathy.

0:22:32 > 0:22:35Your Victorian house, it may give a steep stair,

0:22:35 > 0:22:38but it is very generous in the bedroom department.

0:22:38 > 0:22:42It's nicely painted and decorated, which is what I like, no wallpaper.

0:22:42 > 0:22:43This is lovely.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49Listening to you two going around the house,

0:22:49 > 0:22:53not once did I hear you say, "This is tiny, this is definitely downsizing".

0:22:53 > 0:22:56- A lot of space, do you think? - Yes, pleasantly surprised inside.

0:22:56 > 0:22:58I like the house inside. It's nice.

0:22:58 > 0:23:03- I was just pleased that we managed to get Derek to look at an older property.- You see!

0:23:03 > 0:23:06He wouldn't even go in the front door of an old property.

0:23:06 > 0:23:08He's realised that it's not as bad as he thought.

0:23:08 > 0:23:12You see, sometimes it requires a full BBC camera crew to do that.

0:23:12 > 0:23:16- Guessing the price. Now where are we? We are neck-and-neck.- One-all.

0:23:16 > 0:23:18So this is for the winner.

0:23:18 > 0:23:21So we had a maximum budget of £180,000.

0:23:21 > 0:23:24Kathy, what do you think it is on the market for?

0:23:24 > 0:23:26£167,500.

0:23:26 > 0:23:29£167,500. OK. Derek?

0:23:29 > 0:23:30165.

0:23:30 > 0:23:35- Kathy, you're closest. You've won, but you are not that close. - Oh, right.

0:23:35 > 0:23:38Have the victory of guess the price,

0:23:38 > 0:23:41but the actual price is £184,995 for the house.

0:23:41 > 0:23:46Now it's been on for about a year. Might be open to offers, which is why we showed you.

0:23:46 > 0:23:48- So there we go.- Over your budget,

0:23:48 > 0:23:53but it's got a lot more space, so it wouldn't have to feel like a complete downsize.

0:23:53 > 0:23:57I know you kind of want to downsize just to save a few pennies.

0:23:57 > 0:24:02You could still do that and keep the space. So that's the upshot.

0:24:02 > 0:24:06You're now at the point where you have to make the biggest decision of your adult lives,

0:24:06 > 0:24:09that being, of course, which one you wish to test drive.

0:24:09 > 0:24:12Don't tell us now, wander off. Have a think about it.

0:24:12 > 0:24:16Maybe go into Sittingbourne and enjoy its many facilities.

0:24:16 > 0:24:17We'll see you later on.

0:24:17 > 0:24:19Go that way and we'll see you later.

0:24:19 > 0:24:23OK. Whilst they do that, here's a quick recap for you at home.

0:24:23 > 0:24:27So will property one with its cute front and location near the country

0:24:27 > 0:24:29be enough to sweep Derek and Kathy away?

0:24:29 > 0:24:34It's for sale on the beautiful price of £174,495.

0:24:34 > 0:24:37Or will the lure of being close to their current property

0:24:37 > 0:24:38see them go for my choice?

0:24:38 > 0:24:40Right up their street - almost -

0:24:40 > 0:24:43it's on the market for 180 grand.

0:24:43 > 0:24:45And then there's the wildcard,

0:24:45 > 0:24:48with its classic exterior and updated interior.

0:24:48 > 0:24:49It's closer to town,

0:24:49 > 0:24:52but there's plenty of amenities on their doorstep.

0:24:52 > 0:24:55It's slightly over Derek and Kathy's budget

0:24:55 > 0:24:59at £184,995.

0:25:05 > 0:25:07Well, would you believe it?

0:25:07 > 0:25:11They've gone for my dream train... I mean home, property number two.

0:25:11 > 0:25:12You cannot be serious!

0:25:12 > 0:25:15It's a stone's throw from where they currently live!

0:25:15 > 0:25:18Well, it was obviously the right side of the tracks

0:25:18 > 0:25:21and look, Kathy's got Derek properly trained.

0:25:21 > 0:25:23He's started measuring up already.

0:25:23 > 0:25:274 foot, 8 inches. I think you'll find that's standard gauge.

0:25:28 > 0:25:30Are you going loco again, Ed?

0:25:30 > 0:25:35- Oh and look, cribs.- This isn't MTV, Rani, we are a proper, property show!

0:25:35 > 0:25:38No, they're playing cribs - get with it!

0:25:38 > 0:25:40I can be down with the kids, Rani.

0:25:40 > 0:25:43Anyway, I wouldn't throw all your chips in just yet.

0:25:43 > 0:25:46It looks to me like they're still making up their minds.

0:25:46 > 0:25:49Well, a walk by the gorgeous lake right on the doorstep

0:25:49 > 0:25:52should help them to clear their minds and make them see sense.

0:25:52 > 0:25:55See sense? They can probably see their old home from here.

0:25:55 > 0:26:01I have to say, I'm very pleased you have chosen property number two, MY choice. It was a good choice.

0:26:01 > 0:26:03They were all good choices, but I'm shocked.

0:26:03 > 0:26:07Well, the thing is, it is a completely different area(!)

0:26:07 > 0:26:09How did you find it?

0:26:09 > 0:26:12Was that the draw,

0:26:12 > 0:26:15moving so far away from your current location?

0:26:15 > 0:26:20We both thought it was a really nice pretty house and it suits what we need perfectly, you know.

0:26:20 > 0:26:24- It really does.- Big question. - We're here, are you ready for it?

0:26:24 > 0:26:27The audience are waiting. They are intrigued.

0:26:27 > 0:26:29It was the top end of your budget.

0:26:29 > 0:26:32To buy or not to buy on this property?

0:26:34 > 0:26:38Um, it all depends on the sale of our house now.

0:26:38 > 0:26:41If that goes through, then yes, it would be to buy.

0:26:41 > 0:26:43So...

0:26:43 > 0:26:45we will take that as a to buy.

0:26:45 > 0:26:49So that is a to buy and you both agree with that and feel happy with that.

0:26:49 > 0:26:52And was it the £3 residents'fee that swung it for you,

0:26:52 > 0:26:55- to get Father Christmas round? - That did help!

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