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0:00:02 > 0:00:06'Ladies and gentlemen, live from the 19th-century,

0:00:06 > 0:00:09at the heart of her Majesty's empire in the city of London,

0:00:09 > 0:00:11'it's the Charles Dickens Show!

0:00:11 > 0:00:14'Please will you welcome your host...

0:00:14 > 0:00:19- 'Heeeere's...Dickens!' - CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:00:19 > 0:00:22Thank you, thank you, good evening and welcome.

0:00:22 > 0:00:26This week on my show, we're going to be investigating a subject

0:00:26 > 0:00:28which has been close to my heart for many a year.

0:00:28 > 0:00:30Rrrah!

0:00:30 > 0:00:31Let me tell you,

0:00:31 > 0:00:34this is the one that's REALLY guaranteed to get my goat!

0:00:34 > 0:00:35And if you knew my goat,

0:00:35 > 0:00:36ladies and gentlemen...

0:00:36 > 0:00:39LAUGHTER

0:00:39 > 0:00:42..you would not want to get on the wrong side of him. Listen to this.

0:00:42 > 0:00:46Did you know, that as we stand here today in Victorian Britain,

0:00:46 > 0:00:4980% of all children under the age of 16 years old

0:00:49 > 0:00:51are in full-time work.

0:00:51 > 0:00:53And in our coal and iron mines,

0:00:53 > 0:01:00these children, both boys and girls, are starting work at the age of five.

0:01:00 > 0:01:01Isn't that terrible?

0:01:01 > 0:01:03Child labour!

0:01:03 > 0:01:06Two words which should never have been joined together.

0:01:06 > 0:01:10APPLAUSE Well, tonight, ladies and gentlemen, they shall be wrrrenched asunder!

0:01:12 > 0:01:15And I aim to strike the heaviest blow in my power

0:01:15 > 0:01:17for these poor, unfortunate creatures.

0:01:17 > 0:01:19CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:01:19 > 0:01:21Oh, yes! Now,

0:01:21 > 0:01:24we're going to be visiting one of the country's so-called ragged schools,

0:01:24 > 0:01:26and talking to some poor children who are receiving

0:01:26 > 0:01:28at least some kind of education.

0:01:28 > 0:01:30AUDIENCE: Aah!

0:01:30 > 0:01:32And we'll let them put their points across

0:01:32 > 0:01:35to a man who has dedicated his life to helping them

0:01:35 > 0:01:36and thousands like them -

0:01:36 > 0:01:40Loooord Shaftesbury is in the studio, ladies and gentlemen!

0:01:40 > 0:01:43CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:01:43 > 0:01:45Did you bring your hammer, Lord Shaftesbury?

0:01:45 > 0:01:48Yes, I left mine out the back, Charles.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50HE LAUGHS I hope it's a big one!

0:01:51 > 0:01:54But first up, we're joined by our roving reporter,

0:01:54 > 0:01:56the lovely Nelly Trench.

0:01:56 > 0:01:59CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:01:59 > 0:02:02- What've you been up to, Nelly? - I've been interviewing children

0:02:02 > 0:02:04who do some of the dirtiest and worst paid jobs

0:02:04 > 0:02:06in towns across the country.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09What we discovered was that their plight was so desperate

0:02:09 > 0:02:13that they would turn their hand to anything.

0:02:16 > 0:02:19John Love has been working as a mudlark on the banks of the Thames

0:02:19 > 0:02:23near Execution Dock for almost three years.

0:02:23 > 0:02:26John, what is it exactly that you're looking for?

0:02:26 > 0:02:27Coal...

0:02:27 > 0:02:30- and iron and rope. - Where do they come from?

0:02:30 > 0:02:34Waste from the ships which is repairing the fitting.

0:02:34 > 0:02:37- What's the best thing that you've ever found?- Copper nails.

0:02:37 > 0:02:39And they fetch a good price.

0:02:39 > 0:02:42I got one of them through my foot last winter.

0:02:42 > 0:02:46Some people find silvers and hammers that have fallen overboard,

0:02:46 > 0:02:48but I never did yet.

0:02:48 > 0:02:49I wish I could.

0:02:50 > 0:02:53While John is searching the muddy banks of the river,

0:02:53 > 0:02:55just a few miles away,

0:02:55 > 0:02:58Sally Dunlop is heading to market to buy supplies.

0:02:58 > 0:03:02Sally, and the other watercress sellers, pick up their wares

0:03:02 > 0:03:05and then strike out in different directions,

0:03:05 > 0:03:07with their baskets under their arms.

0:03:07 > 0:03:08I'm very good at bargaining.

0:03:08 > 0:03:10They can't take me in.

0:03:10 > 0:03:13The woman tries to give me a small handful of watercresses,

0:03:13 > 0:03:15I say, "I ain't taking that",

0:03:15 > 0:03:18and then I go to the next basket and so on, all around.

0:03:18 > 0:03:21And how much do you earn if you sell all your baskets?

0:03:21 > 0:03:24- Usually it's threepence.- And what can you buy with threepence?

0:03:24 > 0:03:26A pint of milk.

0:03:26 > 0:03:29One day, I earned a shilling and sixpence,

0:03:29 > 0:03:32and the cresses only cost me the sixpence.

0:03:32 > 0:03:35- How old are you, Sally? - I'm not a child. I'm 11 years old.

0:03:35 > 0:03:39There's so much younger than me out here. Some can barely walk.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42I don't know how their mums can let 'em sell.

0:03:42 > 0:03:43Do many of the little children cry

0:03:43 > 0:03:45because the work's hard and they're cold?

0:03:45 > 0:03:49- Do you ever feel like crying? - It's no use crying, is it?

0:03:49 > 0:03:52It gets bitter cold sometimes. Lucky I got these.

0:03:52 > 0:03:56Some children around here don't even have shoes.

0:03:56 > 0:03:59- Where did you get your slippers? - A gent gave them to me.

0:03:59 > 0:04:02He came here one day, asked for some cresses,

0:04:02 > 0:04:05I gave him the cresses, and he said to wait here.

0:04:05 > 0:04:09I waited here and he brought me back these. I didn't steal them.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12Stealing is wrong, miss, and I would never do it.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15If I done it, Mummy would beat me.

0:04:15 > 0:04:19Here on the riverbank where John Love was taking his lunch,

0:04:19 > 0:04:22I asked him if HE had ever been tempted to steal.

0:04:23 > 0:04:26One of my mates was caught lifting coal from a barge

0:04:26 > 0:04:29and got sent to the House of Correction for seven days.

0:04:29 > 0:04:31He did better than mud-larking.

0:04:31 > 0:04:32Why is that?

0:04:32 > 0:04:35They gave him a jacket, stockings and shoes,

0:04:35 > 0:04:38and he was never afraid of going to bed without a meal,

0:04:38 > 0:04:39not that that's normal.

0:04:39 > 0:04:42- Would you do it?- Well,

0:04:42 > 0:04:45He says he's going to try it again in the winter.

0:04:45 > 0:04:48But would you steal?

0:04:48 > 0:04:50Nah. I ain't no thief.

0:04:51 > 0:04:55Over on the other side of town, I found nine-year-old Betsy,

0:04:55 > 0:04:57who is a pure finder.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00Pure-finding is an essential part of the leather-making industry,

0:05:00 > 0:05:03and Betsy's here to tell us little bit about it.

0:05:03 > 0:05:05Well, I come up before a local magistrate,

0:05:05 > 0:05:08and he told me to go and gather pure, and that he'd buy it off me.

0:05:08 > 0:05:11- He's a tanner, you see, makes leather. - So, pure is... Oh, watch out!

0:05:11 > 0:05:15- Watch your step.- Well spotted! You're a natural.

0:05:15 > 0:05:16Oh...

0:05:17 > 0:05:19..lovely bit of pure, that.

0:05:19 > 0:05:21So, pure is...

0:05:21 > 0:05:23Well, it's dung, innit? Dog's muck.

0:05:23 > 0:05:25We put it in a bucket like this one. See?

0:05:25 > 0:05:29It's good to have a lid on it, then people don't mind it so much.

0:05:29 > 0:05:31There we go.

0:05:31 > 0:05:33So what do they actually do with the...

0:05:33 > 0:05:34the pure?

0:05:34 > 0:05:38They rub it into leather. The gloves and suchlike for the rich ladies.

0:05:38 > 0:05:40Like that pair you've got on, I expect.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42I think they use it to clean it, to purify it.

0:05:42 > 0:05:45That's why it's called pure. I've got a glove here myself.

0:05:45 > 0:05:48But I usually just use my hand without the glove to pick stuff up.

0:05:48 > 0:05:50Why?

0:05:50 > 0:05:52It's easier to get a good grip on it,

0:05:52 > 0:05:55and you can wash our hands better than you be able to wash a glove.

0:05:55 > 0:05:59- But doesn't it smell?- Depends what they've been eating, I suppose.

0:05:59 > 0:06:03Some fellas clean out the kennels, so they make more money.

0:06:03 > 0:06:06Although, if you ask me, that pure ain't such good material.

0:06:06 > 0:06:09- What, it can make a difference what sort of pure...?- Of course.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12It matters very much what it looks like.

0:06:12 > 0:06:16Sometimes prefer the dry stuff, and others like it to be dark and moist.

0:06:16 > 0:06:17Like this!

0:06:21 > 0:06:23Let me tell you a secret.

0:06:23 > 0:06:27Got a bucket of wet stuff like this, and they want it dry and chalky,

0:06:27 > 0:06:30then you can mix it in with a bit of water from the old walls.

0:06:30 > 0:06:35You pick the water out...like this and then you mix it in, like.

0:06:35 > 0:06:37- You have a go. - Oh, no, you're fine, thanks.

0:06:37 > 0:06:40Go on, it ain't going to hurt you.

0:06:42 > 0:06:47No, don't bother with your glove, just get your hands in! Look...

0:06:48 > 0:06:51If they caught us at it, we'd be in trouble, mind,

0:06:51 > 0:06:54but it's good to know the tricks, innit?

0:06:54 > 0:06:58You know what I saw yesterday? Fella calling himself a street cleaner.

0:06:58 > 0:06:59Came across him on one of my best patches.

0:06:59 > 0:07:01You can always find some good pure.

0:07:01 > 0:07:03Clearing up the muck, he was.

0:07:03 > 0:07:06I ask you, how's a girl meant to make an honest living

0:07:06 > 0:07:09if they go around clearing up all the pure before I can get to it?

0:07:11 > 0:07:12In each of these trades,

0:07:12 > 0:07:15there are hundreds of children working every day,

0:07:15 > 0:07:17trying to make just enough money

0:07:17 > 0:07:20to ward off starvation and the workhouse.

0:07:20 > 0:07:22Some of these youngsters told me

0:07:22 > 0:07:25that they do sometimes attend a ragged school.

0:07:25 > 0:07:28But they can see no way out of the desperate poverty

0:07:28 > 0:07:31into which they have been born.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34This is Nelly Trent for the Charles Dickens Show.

0:07:35 > 0:07:39Well, the old adage there, where there's muck, there's brass.

0:07:39 > 0:07:40Well done for getting stuck in, Nelly,

0:07:40 > 0:07:43and thank you, once again, for another splendid report.

0:07:43 > 0:07:44That's my pleasure, Charles.

0:07:48 > 0:07:53It's very important that we don't forget about these young innocents, isn't it, Lord Shaftesbury?

0:07:53 > 0:07:56Oh, certainly. We shouldn't just think about the children

0:07:56 > 0:07:59who are working in the factories and mills, we also need to remember

0:07:59 > 0:08:01the children that we pass every day on the street.

0:08:01 > 0:08:03Quite so.

0:08:03 > 0:08:08Now, let tell you, my friends, I visited a factory up in Yorkshire,

0:08:08 > 0:08:12and it seemed to me that the children were being literally worked to death.

0:08:12 > 0:08:15And that goes for the whole of the country. In the past three years,

0:08:15 > 0:08:211,287 fingers have been torn off by our factory machines. AUDIENCE GROANS

0:08:21 > 0:08:24That's a lot of fingers.

0:08:24 > 0:08:27Nearly 1,500 bones have been broken in these workplaces

0:08:27 > 0:08:31and over 100 people have been killed.

0:08:31 > 0:08:34I only talk about such horrible things because they exist,

0:08:34 > 0:08:37and that existence should be clearly known.

0:08:37 > 0:08:40That's the reason I thought it might be interesting to bring

0:08:40 > 0:08:43one of the factory men responsible for this ongoing misery

0:08:43 > 0:08:46on to our show, ladies and gentlemen! BOOING

0:08:46 > 0:08:48Mr... What?

0:08:48 > 0:08:51Why can't we mention his name?

0:08:51 > 0:08:53Apparently, ladies and gentlemen,

0:08:53 > 0:08:56the man wishes to remain anonymous.

0:08:56 > 0:08:58Are we surprised?

0:08:58 > 0:08:59LAUGHTER

0:08:59 > 0:09:01Well, let's see what he has to say for himself.

0:09:01 > 0:09:04Would you like to be outside on a day like this,

0:09:04 > 0:09:09when you can be in the mill, safe and warm? Well...safe.

0:09:12 > 0:09:16Of course, I'd like to be able to pay them all more,

0:09:16 > 0:09:20but it wouldn't be sound business.

0:09:20 > 0:09:23If I'm out of business, then they're out of work.

0:09:23 > 0:09:28The cotton trade is worth nearly £40 million for this country.

0:09:28 > 0:09:33The industry has to come before the individual.

0:09:33 > 0:09:38Every morning, I stand on the bridge between my garden and the mill

0:09:38 > 0:09:41and I see them all coming down the lane in their clogs

0:09:41 > 0:09:43for the morning shift.

0:09:43 > 0:09:47They all look up at me and they wave and they shout,

0:09:47 > 0:09:50"Good morning, Mr Dug... Sir."

0:09:52 > 0:09:55MACHINERY RATTLES

0:09:55 > 0:09:58The noise is terrible but you're not allowed to talk anyway,

0:09:58 > 0:10:01so the racket from the machines is no bad thing.

0:10:01 > 0:10:05I mean, if a child comes up to me and says he's 16 and I say,

0:10:05 > 0:10:07"You look more like you're ten,"

0:10:07 > 0:10:11and they say, "Well, I look young for me age,"

0:10:11 > 0:10:14how am I supposed to know how old the children are anyway?

0:10:14 > 0:10:18They brought in birth certificates in 1837 but...

0:10:18 > 0:10:20It's not as easy as that.

0:10:20 > 0:10:22The thing about children...

0:10:23 > 0:10:24..is...

0:10:24 > 0:10:26they're small.

0:10:26 > 0:10:27You see.

0:10:27 > 0:10:31What we have some of them doing is working as "piecers,"

0:10:31 > 0:10:34which means they run up and down beside the loom

0:10:34 > 0:10:35and when a thread snaps,

0:10:35 > 0:10:39they grab the two ends and re-attach them as quick as they can.

0:10:39 > 0:10:40They really do scamper about.

0:10:40 > 0:10:43We think they can do as many as 20 miles in a day.

0:10:43 > 0:10:48It's a bit like a game to them. Hopscotch or...tag!

0:10:48 > 0:10:49HE LAUGHS

0:10:49 > 0:10:50But it isn't a game.

0:10:52 > 0:10:54Cos if they get their timing wrong,

0:10:54 > 0:10:58they're likely to get sucked into the machine and crushed to death!

0:11:00 > 0:11:01Horribly.

0:11:02 > 0:11:06I mean, I do get do-gooders coming up to me and saying,

0:11:06 > 0:11:08"Mr Dugd... Dugd..."

0:11:09 > 0:11:13# D-d-do, do-do, do-do-do-do, do-do. #

0:11:13 > 0:11:14Nice tune, ain't it?

0:11:14 > 0:11:15# Do-do... #

0:11:15 > 0:11:18One of my favourites.

0:11:18 > 0:11:21I built them all houses, of course, and very nice they are too.

0:11:21 > 0:11:26They've even got lavatories and they share them! With their neighbours!

0:11:26 > 0:11:30I mean, that's what community's all about, ain't it? Sharing.

0:11:30 > 0:11:31HE LAUGHS

0:11:31 > 0:11:36They're my family and I'm the father. I don't mean literally!

0:11:38 > 0:11:41But sometimes... a father has to be strict.

0:11:41 > 0:11:43Does that make me a bad person?

0:11:43 > 0:11:49Cos if it does, then I hold my hands up and I say, "Yes, I am bad!"

0:11:49 > 0:11:51Telegram for you, Mr Duggdale.

0:11:51 > 0:11:53AUDIENCE LAUGHS

0:11:55 > 0:11:56THEY LAUGH

0:11:56 > 0:12:01Apologies to Mr Duggdale, there, who wishes to remain anonymous!

0:12:01 > 0:12:05Now, it's time to meet my very special guest.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07A tireless champion of children's rights

0:12:07 > 0:12:10who has dedicated his life in parliament to that cause.

0:12:10 > 0:12:14Will you feel the love in the room, ladies and gentlemen,

0:12:14 > 0:12:17as I introduce the one, the only, Lord Shaftesbury!

0:12:17 > 0:12:19AUDIENCE APPLAUDS

0:12:19 > 0:12:22Thank you, Charles, a pleasure to be here.

0:12:22 > 0:12:26We're thrilled to have you on the show but listen, I have to tell you.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29We're all rather confused here on The Charles Dickens Show

0:12:29 > 0:12:32cos we haven't got the foggiest idea what to call you!

0:12:32 > 0:12:37Ah, well, I was born Anthony Ashley Cooper.

0:12:37 > 0:12:39So it's Lord Ashley?

0:12:39 > 0:12:42Not quite. I gave up the Lord Ashley when my father...

0:12:42 > 0:12:45- Lord Shaftesbury?- ..yes, when he died, of course, I then became...

0:12:45 > 0:12:47- Lord Shaftesbury.- Right.

0:12:47 > 0:12:50But my father was also the Earl of Shaftesbury.

0:12:50 > 0:12:51So you are...

0:12:51 > 0:12:55- BOTH: The Earl of Shaftesbury. - Yes, the seventh earl.

0:12:55 > 0:12:57LAUGHTER

0:12:57 > 0:13:01Hold on, one moment. Indulge me, kind sir.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04- I think this is going to work a lot better for you.- Oh.

0:13:04 > 0:13:08- There you go.- Oh. Yeah, that's quite excellent, thank you.

0:13:08 > 0:13:11This is just for the duration of the show, you understand?

0:13:11 > 0:13:14Of course tomorrow, who knows what the heck we'll have to call him?!

0:13:14 > 0:13:18Now, if I may be serious for a moment,

0:13:18 > 0:13:20I want to talk to you about that ten-hour act.

0:13:20 > 0:13:24This is a bill that was meant to reduce the number of hours

0:13:24 > 0:13:26that a child could be permitted to work.

0:13:26 > 0:13:27Yes, yes, to ten.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30We feel that a child should not be allowed to work

0:13:30 > 0:13:32more than ten hours a day.

0:13:32 > 0:13:35APPLAUSE Now, tell us a little bit about that.

0:13:35 > 0:13:38We introduced the act before parliament but it was rejected.

0:13:38 > 0:13:39What went wrong?

0:13:39 > 0:13:43There's a lot of opposition to it from factory owners,

0:13:43 > 0:13:46from powerful politicians who feared - quite wrongly -

0:13:46 > 0:13:49that this act would mean them losing a lot of money.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51What happened next?

0:13:51 > 0:13:54Then the government realised that something had to be done,

0:13:54 > 0:13:58so then they introduced their OWN Factory Act, later the same year.

0:13:58 > 0:14:03- Phew! So we got there in the end? - Yes. And, well, no.

0:14:03 > 0:14:05- No?- No. - What happened this time?

0:14:05 > 0:14:10The government appointed so few inspectors to police the new laws

0:14:10 > 0:14:13that the five-year-olds were all back at their machines

0:14:13 > 0:14:14in no time at all.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17How many inspectors did the government appoint?

0:14:17 > 0:14:19Four.

0:14:19 > 0:14:23- Four?! Across the entire length and breadth of the country?!- Yes.

0:14:23 > 0:14:26Aargh! Where's my hammer?!

0:14:26 > 0:14:29This is going to be quite the long haul, I'm afraid.

0:14:29 > 0:14:33You have the patience of Job, sir, you really do.

0:14:33 > 0:14:35When we knew you were coming on the show,

0:14:35 > 0:14:37we organised a little treat for you.

0:14:37 > 0:14:41Now, people at home will know that Lord Shaftesbury here,

0:14:41 > 0:14:44he started the Ragged Schools Union back in 1844.

0:14:44 > 0:14:48We'll be talking to some of the pupils in one of these classrooms

0:14:48 > 0:14:50in just a few moments, but before we do,

0:14:50 > 0:14:55explain for us if you would, why are they called, "Ragged schools?"

0:14:55 > 0:14:58Cos many pupils have nothing better to wear than rags.

0:14:58 > 0:15:00Ah, it's as simple as that?!

0:15:00 > 0:15:03But these schools aren't schools as you and I would know them?

0:15:03 > 0:15:06No, many classrooms are in ordinary homes.

0:15:06 > 0:15:08One of the first that was set up,

0:15:08 > 0:15:11was set up by Mr John Pounds in Portsmouth,

0:15:11 > 0:15:16who began teaching the pupils in his boot-menders shop after hours.

0:15:16 > 0:15:19Now these ragged schools have sprung up in warehouses

0:15:19 > 0:15:21and all kinds of buildings, all over the country.

0:15:21 > 0:15:23Yes, it's inspiring.

0:15:23 > 0:15:25This organisation is the kind of thing

0:15:25 > 0:15:28that gets me out of bed in the morning.

0:15:28 > 0:15:33Children are the future and the future hopes of any country

0:15:33 > 0:15:38lies with the character and education of its children.

0:15:38 > 0:15:41- So, education is the key? - Oh, absolutely.

0:15:41 > 0:15:44You've got to get them when they're young.

0:15:44 > 0:15:48For as the sapling has been bent, so will it grow.

0:15:48 > 0:15:52Beautiful. Now, let's hear from some of those children

0:15:52 > 0:15:55who are the future of our world, right now.

0:15:55 > 0:15:57If I didn't work, I couldn't afford to eat.

0:15:57 > 0:16:00I don't want to be living like this all my life,

0:16:00 > 0:16:02so that's what I want, an education.

0:16:02 > 0:16:05Now, this is a real bugbear of mine.

0:16:05 > 0:16:08Their circumstances should not deprive those willing to learn.

0:16:08 > 0:16:12I accept some families need their children to go out and work

0:16:12 > 0:16:14in order to survive.

0:16:14 > 0:16:16There's no easy answer, I'm afraid.

0:16:16 > 0:16:19This is a huge expectation on the child, though, isn't it -

0:16:19 > 0:16:22to come to school after a long day's work?

0:16:22 > 0:16:25Yes, of course, it's not ideal but at least this child has now,

0:16:25 > 0:16:28within his reach, some sort of education.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32My father wouldn't send me to school cos he said we didn't have no money.

0:16:32 > 0:16:35He said I should be working rather than coming here.

0:16:35 > 0:16:37Even in the nights.

0:16:37 > 0:16:39But my sister brings me after work.

0:16:39 > 0:16:43She says it's better to be hungry now than poor all your life.

0:16:43 > 0:16:46They shouldn't have to go without food in order to go to school

0:16:46 > 0:16:49but an education is without doubt

0:16:49 > 0:16:53one of the best ways of freeing children from poverty.

0:16:53 > 0:16:56If a boy can learn to read and add his numbers,

0:16:56 > 0:16:58this is a way to him of getting a better job.

0:16:58 > 0:17:02It certainly sounds like she has a very wise sister.

0:17:02 > 0:17:08I work every day sticking labels on blacking tins under the stairs.

0:17:08 > 0:17:10I want to be a writer some day,

0:17:10 > 0:17:14so I come down here to learn how to write, neat and proper.

0:17:14 > 0:17:16I recognise that factory!

0:17:16 > 0:17:20That's exactly where I started out as a 12-year-old boy,

0:17:20 > 0:17:23sticking labels on tins.

0:17:23 > 0:17:27I was that boy. Better looking, but that shouldn't hold him back!

0:17:27 > 0:17:29Keep writing, young lad,

0:17:29 > 0:17:33and may the cares of today put food on your table tomorrow.

0:17:33 > 0:17:37I'm afraid that's about all we have time for. Shaft.

0:17:37 > 0:17:38Dickens.

0:17:38 > 0:17:40It's been a pleasure and a privilege

0:17:40 > 0:17:43to have you on our show, it really has.

0:17:43 > 0:17:46I'm sure children out there, across the country

0:17:46 > 0:17:49would like to thank you from the bottom of their hearts

0:17:49 > 0:17:51for all the wonderful work you've done

0:17:51 > 0:17:53and are continuing to do on their behalf.

0:17:53 > 0:17:55CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:17:55 > 0:17:59Now, I believe you're due in parliament right after this,

0:17:59 > 0:18:00aren't you?

0:18:00 > 0:18:03- Yes.- Will you promise me one thing? - What's that?

0:18:03 > 0:18:06Will you wear your badge? And take this with you!

0:18:06 > 0:18:09In case you meet any posh politicians

0:18:09 > 0:18:11that need a little extra persuasion!

0:18:11 > 0:18:13Lord Shaftesbury, everybody!

0:18:13 > 0:18:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:18:15 > 0:18:17That about wraps it up but before we leave,

0:18:17 > 0:18:20I'd like to leave you with this little thought -

0:18:20 > 0:18:25A day spent wasted on others is never a day wasted on yourself.

0:18:25 > 0:18:27Get to it!

0:18:27 > 0:18:30Good night, and God bless you all!

0:18:30 > 0:18:33CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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