0:00:02 > 0:00:03One, two, three, four...
0:00:10 > 0:00:11Ladies and gentlemen,
0:00:11 > 0:00:13please welcome one of Ireland's greatest ever pipers,
0:00:13 > 0:00:16originally from Ballygowan in County Down,
0:00:16 > 0:00:19now living in Pittsburgh, USA. Put your hands together for
0:00:19 > 0:00:21Mr Andrew Carlisle!
0:00:21 > 0:00:22CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:01:18 > 0:01:20CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:01:25 > 0:01:28Welcome to Lurgan Castle in County Armagh
0:01:28 > 0:01:30where, for two days, a group of local musicians
0:01:30 > 0:01:33have been playing host to performers who have travelled from Scotland,
0:01:33 > 0:01:35Canada and the USA.
0:01:35 > 0:01:37Their purpose? To rehearse and present
0:01:37 > 0:01:39a feast of Ulster Scots music.
0:01:41 > 0:01:44The result? A show I know you are thoroughly going to enjoy.
0:01:46 > 0:01:48Welcome to The Castle Session.
0:01:48 > 0:01:50APPLAUSE
0:03:55 > 0:03:57CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:04:06 > 0:04:09Lisa and Brenley, you are from Nova Scotia.
0:04:09 > 0:04:11It's great to have you here in Northern Ireland, especially at
0:04:11 > 0:04:14Lurgan Castle in the town in which I was born, so welcome to my
0:04:14 > 0:04:16part of the world.
0:04:16 > 0:04:18And we're playing in a castle, so it's kind of cool.
0:04:18 > 0:04:20So, a real castle and you're excited about playing with a
0:04:20 > 0:04:23lot of the musicians that have been around. How have you found that?
0:04:23 > 0:04:26- Well, they're all monster players, I'll tell you that. - HE LAUGHS
0:04:26 > 0:04:28- It's nice to walk in... - Is that a good or bad thing, Lisa?
0:04:28 > 0:04:30- A good thing. - That's a good thing.- Yeah,
0:04:30 > 0:04:33that's a very good thing. When you're a monster player,
0:04:33 > 0:04:35it's like... You just go like this, you bow down.
0:04:35 > 0:04:38Being from Canada, you're from Nova Scotia...
0:04:38 > 0:04:41What type of music is your music, what's your roots?
0:04:41 > 0:04:44We've got Scottish roots. I mean, Lisa being from Cape Breton
0:04:44 > 0:04:47and my father from Cape Breton, we both grew up listening to
0:04:47 > 0:04:51tons of, of Scottish Irish tunes. And I think
0:04:51 > 0:04:54it just kind of made its way into our melodies
0:04:54 > 0:04:56and what we write today.
0:04:56 > 0:04:59It's like it's coming right through us. It's just there,
0:04:59 > 0:05:01you can't ignore it. You wouldn't want to ignore it.
0:05:01 > 0:05:03Why would you want to?
0:05:03 > 0:05:05CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:05:23 > 0:05:25# No poetry
0:05:28 > 0:05:30# No fire
0:05:33 > 0:05:35# No telling you're tired
0:05:39 > 0:05:41# No litter
0:05:44 > 0:05:46# No gold
0:05:49 > 0:05:51# No growing old
0:05:54 > 0:05:57# It's not a bad world, brother
0:05:59 > 0:06:05# It's not a bad world
0:06:06 > 0:06:08# Crying your eyes out
0:06:10 > 0:06:13# It's all about crying your eyes out
0:06:15 > 0:06:18# So cry on me now
0:06:20 > 0:06:24# Cry on me now
0:06:26 > 0:06:28# No shepherd
0:06:32 > 0:06:33# No shame
0:06:36 > 0:06:38# No pictures to frame
0:06:42 > 0:06:43# No fix
0:06:48 > 0:06:49# No glory
0:06:52 > 0:06:55# No telling your story
0:06:57 > 0:07:01# It's not a bad world, brother
0:07:02 > 0:07:08# It's not a bad world
0:07:09 > 0:07:12# Crying your eyes out
0:07:13 > 0:07:17# It's all about crying your eyes out
0:07:18 > 0:07:22# So cry on me now
0:07:24 > 0:07:27# Cry on me now
0:07:52 > 0:07:54# Now that you're gone
0:07:54 > 0:07:57# I hope you get a chance
0:07:57 > 0:08:00# To sit down with God
0:08:00 > 0:08:06# I hope you get a chance to question the man in cloth
0:08:06 > 0:08:10# Cos it's not a bad world, brother
0:08:11 > 0:08:15# It's not a bad world, brother
0:08:16 > 0:08:20# It's not a bad world, brother
0:08:22 > 0:08:27# It's not a bad world
0:08:28 > 0:08:32# Crying your eyes out
0:08:32 > 0:08:36# It's all about crying your eyes out
0:08:38 > 0:08:41# So cry on me now
0:08:43 > 0:08:45# Cry on me
0:08:45 > 0:08:47# Crying your eyes out
0:08:48 > 0:08:52# It's all about crying your eyes out
0:08:54 > 0:08:57# So cry on me now
0:08:59 > 0:09:04# Cry on me now. #
0:09:04 > 0:09:06CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:09:09 > 0:09:13So, Diane and Emma, it's great to have international musicians here
0:09:13 > 0:09:15from both sides of the Atlantic,
0:09:15 > 0:09:18but for me, it's fantastic to have two local girls,
0:09:18 > 0:09:20so, where are you from, what is local?
0:09:20 > 0:09:23Ballymena, both from Ballymena - born and bred.
0:09:23 > 0:09:26We've been playing together since we were in primary school
0:09:26 > 0:09:28and all through secondary school and university.
0:09:28 > 0:09:31And then I moved away, I was in Liverpool for three years,
0:09:31 > 0:09:34so I did my teaching degree. I'm just home there in July,
0:09:34 > 0:09:35so we are basically just reunited.
0:09:35 > 0:09:37SHE CHUCKLES
0:09:37 > 0:09:39Reunited... A bit of a reunion, coming back together
0:09:39 > 0:09:42- just for us here on The Castle Sessions.- Yep.
0:09:42 > 0:09:44Auch, you're so good, so good! LAUGHTER
0:09:44 > 0:09:47I, personally, know that there was a lot of good fiddle players
0:09:47 > 0:09:50in County Antrim, but not so much of the young generation
0:09:50 > 0:09:52seem to be coming through playing fiddle, how did you get
0:09:52 > 0:09:54into playing traditional fiddle?
0:09:54 > 0:09:57I think it kind of came from... When we learnt the fiddle,
0:09:57 > 0:10:00my dad would be an accordion player. So, he would have played...
0:10:00 > 0:10:02You know, in low-key things like Arthur Cottage
0:10:02 > 0:10:05- in Cullybackey, things like that there would...- Church halls.- Church halls and...
0:10:05 > 0:10:08We would have went up with him and played...
0:10:08 > 0:10:10More so old-time music like Grandfather's Clock
0:10:10 > 0:10:11and all those kind of...
0:10:11 > 0:10:13- Maggie and all those... - Old favourites.
0:10:13 > 0:10:15And then from that, we just kind of developed a love of folk music
0:10:15 > 0:10:17and traditional music...
0:10:17 > 0:10:20We play loads of Scottish tunes. We love Scottish tunes.
0:10:20 > 0:10:22The set that you're playing - it actually starts with
0:10:22 > 0:10:25the 2/4 march Stella's Trip To Kamloops.
0:10:25 > 0:10:27It's a little bit different, how did you come across that tune?
0:10:27 > 0:10:30Well, we actually picked that one up when we were looking,
0:10:30 > 0:10:33researching for music for uni, when we were doing performance.
0:10:33 > 0:10:35We heard that one on a John McCusker CD.
0:10:35 > 0:10:38And we picked it and started to arrange...
0:10:38 > 0:10:40With a couple of different sets and...
0:10:40 > 0:10:42- Put your own stamp on it?- Yeah.- Yeah.
0:10:42 > 0:10:43APPLAUSE
0:12:40 > 0:12:42CHEERING
0:14:10 > 0:14:12CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:14:21 > 0:14:23We Banjo 3 - you're four lads from Galway.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26I suppose, with banjo...the clue is maybe in the title,
0:14:26 > 0:14:28but what else are you using?
0:14:28 > 0:14:31We Banjo 3 is a four-piece band with two banjo players,
0:14:31 > 0:14:33Fergal plays the fiddle and I play guitar as well.
0:14:33 > 0:14:36- So, it makes perfect sense.- We focus a lot on having fun with the music
0:14:36 > 0:14:40and I suppose we pick tunes that are fun and we...
0:14:40 > 0:14:43We just enjoy it. The banjo is kind of a fun instrument.
0:14:43 > 0:14:46And the fiddle is there to make the banjo sound nice, I suppose.
0:14:46 > 0:14:48LAUGHTER
0:14:48 > 0:14:51So, you make these guys sound good, is that what you're saying, then?
0:14:51 > 0:14:53No, not sound good. They're good. I just make them sound nice.
0:14:53 > 0:14:55LAUGHTER
0:14:55 > 0:14:58We like to have fun with it and we really enjoy ourselves on stage.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01And when we're having fun on stage, then the audience has no choice but
0:15:01 > 0:15:03to come with us and have fun too.
0:15:03 > 0:15:07You know, we love the tones and the atmosphere of, you know,
0:15:07 > 0:15:10old-time music and bluegrass music.
0:15:10 > 0:15:12And obviously there's, you know, those long connections between
0:15:12 > 0:15:15Irish musicians and American musicians and the travelling Irish,
0:15:15 > 0:15:19the travelling Scots. And you know, each one influencing the
0:15:19 > 0:15:21other musical traditions.
0:15:21 > 0:15:22APPLAUSE
0:16:20 > 0:16:22# Oh, the fox went out on a chilly night
0:16:22 > 0:16:25# And he prayed that the moon would give him light
0:16:25 > 0:16:27# For he had many miles to go that night
0:16:27 > 0:16:28# Before he reached the town-o
0:16:28 > 0:16:30# The town-o, the town-o
0:16:30 > 0:16:35# Many a mile to go that night before he reached the town-o
0:16:35 > 0:16:38# He went till he came to the farmer's den
0:16:38 > 0:16:40# And the ducks and the geese were kept therein
0:16:40 > 0:16:43# He said, "A couple o' you are gonna grease my chin
0:16:43 > 0:16:45# "Before I leave this town-o"
0:16:45 > 0:16:46# Town-o, town-o
0:16:46 > 0:16:50# A couple o' you are gonna grease my chin before I leave this town-o
0:17:04 > 0:17:06# He grabbed the grey goose by the neck
0:17:06 > 0:17:09# And he threw a duck across his back
0:17:09 > 0:17:11# And he didn't mind the quack, quack, quack
0:17:11 > 0:17:15# And the legs all danglin' down-o, down-o, down-o
0:17:15 > 0:17:17# And he didn't mind the quack, quack, quack
0:17:17 > 0:17:19# And the legs all danglin' down-o
0:17:19 > 0:17:21# Oh, the old grey mother she jumped out at him
0:17:21 > 0:17:24# Out of the window she popped her head
0:17:24 > 0:17:27# Cryin, "John, John, the grey goose is gone and the fox is on the town-o"
0:17:27 > 0:17:29# Town-o, town-o
0:17:29 > 0:17:33# John, John, the grey goose is gone and the fox is on the town-o
0:17:49 > 0:17:52# Oh, went back down to the den where the little ones there
0:17:52 > 0:17:55# 8, 9, 10 saying, "Daddy, Daddy better go back again
0:17:55 > 0:17:59# "It must be a mighty fine town-o, town-o, town-o"
0:17:59 > 0:18:03# Daddy, Daddy better go back again, it must be a mighty fine town-o
0:18:03 > 0:18:05# Oh, the fox and his wife without any strife
0:18:05 > 0:18:08# They cut up the goose with a fork and knife and they never had
0:18:08 > 0:18:10# Such a supper in their life
0:18:10 > 0:18:13# And the little ones chewed on the bones-o, bones-o, bones-o
0:18:13 > 0:18:16# They never had such a supper in their life
0:18:16 > 0:18:18# And the little ones chewed on the bones-o... #
0:18:18 > 0:18:20Ha!
0:18:31 > 0:18:33Hup!
0:19:13 > 0:19:14Ha!
0:19:36 > 0:19:37CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:19:42 > 0:19:45Andrew Carlisle, you've won all sorts of championships and solos
0:19:45 > 0:19:48all over the world. Played with the ten-times world champions
0:19:48 > 0:19:50Field Marshal Montgomery Pipe Band -
0:19:50 > 0:19:52but what you're doing here is very different to that.
0:19:52 > 0:19:54Yeah, it's great.
0:19:54 > 0:19:57And I really enjoy getting to play with other musicians
0:19:57 > 0:20:00that you wouldn't get the opportunity to do Highland pipes,
0:20:00 > 0:20:02but I'm glad, as well, that we're able to show what the
0:20:02 > 0:20:04Highland Pipes can do, you know.
0:20:04 > 0:20:06The Field Marshal Montgomery band under the control
0:20:06 > 0:20:09- of Pipe Major Richard Parkes.- Yeah, it's great having him in the show,
0:20:09 > 0:20:12you know, he's been a huge influence in my career, you know,
0:20:12 > 0:20:15and he used to teach me, actually, at the
0:20:15 > 0:20:18Northern Ireland Piping and Drumming School and...
0:20:18 > 0:20:20Yeah, he's actually related to me as well...
0:20:20 > 0:20:21HE CHUCKLES
0:20:21 > 0:20:25- So, it's in the genes already, is that what you're saying?- Well... - APPLAUSE
0:23:04 > 0:23:06CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:23:11 > 0:23:15Rachel McLeister, you're a girl I know from the pipe band world,
0:23:15 > 0:23:17- that's how I know you.- Uh-hm.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20Erm, yeah, well, I'm from Cullybackey, that's where I've
0:23:20 > 0:23:23lived all my life. And erm, a few years back...
0:23:23 > 0:23:26It would be five years now... I joined the pipe band
0:23:26 > 0:23:28because my brother was in it and he loved it.
0:23:28 > 0:23:31I play as a tenor drummer, my brother he's a snare drummer.
0:23:31 > 0:23:34I perform with the pipe band at competitions and other things.
0:23:34 > 0:23:38I was in Switzerland playing at a tattoo - a military tattoo
0:23:38 > 0:23:41alongside other musicians from across the world,
0:23:41 > 0:23:45other pipe bands with me. Whenever I was asked to sing, you know,
0:23:45 > 0:23:48a folk song in a castle it was different for me.
0:23:55 > 0:24:04# When midnight comes and people homeward tread
0:24:04 > 0:24:12# Seek now your blanket and your feather bed
0:24:12 > 0:24:16# Home is a rover
0:24:16 > 0:24:22# His journey's over
0:24:22 > 0:24:30# And yield up the night-time to old John O'Dreams
0:24:30 > 0:24:38# Yield up the night-time to old John O'Dreams
0:24:41 > 0:24:49# Across the hill the sun has gone astray
0:24:49 > 0:24:58# Tomorrow's cares are many dreams away
0:24:58 > 0:25:06# The stars are flying your candle is dying
0:25:08 > 0:25:16# And yield up the darkness to old John O'Dreams
0:25:17 > 0:25:25# Yield up the darkness to old John O'Dreams
0:25:34 > 0:25:41# Both man and master in the night are one
0:25:42 > 0:25:51# All things are equal when the day is done
0:25:51 > 0:25:59# The prince and the ploughman the slave and the free man
0:26:00 > 0:26:09# All find their comfort in old John O'Dreams
0:26:09 > 0:26:17# All find their comfort in old John O'Dreams
0:26:44 > 0:26:52# When sleep it comes the dreams come running clear
0:26:52 > 0:27:00# The hawks of morning cannot reach you here
0:27:00 > 0:27:08# Sleep is a river, flow on forever
0:27:08 > 0:27:16# And for your boatman choose old John O'Dreams
0:27:16 > 0:27:24# And for your boatman choose old John O'Dreams. #
0:27:28 > 0:27:32CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:27:35 > 0:27:38Ailie Robertson, you've come over from Scotland, you're
0:27:38 > 0:27:40one of our guests from across the seas, but just a little bit
0:27:40 > 0:27:43of sea between here and Scotland, where are you from?
0:27:43 > 0:27:46- I'm from Edinburgh, originally.- From Edinburgh and now living in London,
0:27:46 > 0:27:49but touring all round the world playing...your harp.
0:27:49 > 0:27:52Yeah, half the year I'm on tour with a band called The Outside Track,
0:27:52 > 0:27:54and then the rest of the time I'm between London and Scotland.
0:27:54 > 0:27:58Ailie, people would associate the harp with Irish music, as a symbol of Irish music,
0:27:58 > 0:28:00but it's important in Scottish musical history, too.
0:28:00 > 0:28:03That's right, the harp is Scotland's oldest traditional instrument,
0:28:03 > 0:28:06it predates the bagpipes or any of the other instruments,
0:28:06 > 0:28:08and so it's been a huge part of our musical heritage
0:28:08 > 0:28:09and our musical history.
0:28:09 > 0:28:12And the music of Scotland and Ireland has gone back
0:28:12 > 0:28:14and forth many times, and the harp tradition is a big part of that.
0:28:14 > 0:28:18And, Ailie, you're going to play for us a set of dance tunes. Tell us a little bit about that set.
0:28:18 > 0:28:22That's right, I'm going to play a set that's two jigs and then a slip jig.
0:28:22 > 0:28:24So the first tune is called The Exploding Bow.
0:28:24 > 0:28:27The second is Lisnagun and then the third tune is a tune
0:28:27 > 0:28:29that I wrote - called Swerving For Bunnies,
0:28:29 > 0:28:32which I wrote for my band after I totalled our car trying to
0:28:32 > 0:28:34avoid some rabbits on the road!
0:28:34 > 0:28:36CHEERING
0:31:21 > 0:31:22CHEERING
0:31:25 > 0:31:29Andy, you're now Professor of Music at Carnegie Mellon University
0:31:29 > 0:31:33in America. The university itself has Ulster Scots' connections.
0:31:33 > 0:31:34It does indeed, yeah.
0:31:34 > 0:31:38Well, Andrew Carnegie was from Dunfermline in Scotland,
0:31:38 > 0:31:42but the Mellon family - Thomas Mellon, they were from
0:31:42 > 0:31:45the Omagh area. So, yeah, we've got a lot of traditional ties with,
0:31:45 > 0:31:48with Northern Ireland and with Scotland, of course, you know,
0:31:48 > 0:31:52with Andrew Carnegie and, you know, I guess that's one of the reasons
0:31:52 > 0:31:56why the university has a pipe band and I get to teach
0:31:56 > 0:31:59a lot of these American students a little bit about the,
0:31:59 > 0:32:02the traditions that we have here in the province of Ulster.
0:35:07 > 0:35:09CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:35:14 > 0:35:18It's great to play music with Andy, great piper and...
0:35:18 > 0:35:21It's just a lot of energy and a lot of craic and it's good fun.
0:35:21 > 0:35:24It's always good to play music, all sorts of music.
0:35:24 > 0:35:27And as well as playing, you're singing a song for us.
0:35:27 > 0:35:29I didn't really know you were a singer, Gino,
0:35:29 > 0:35:31but a man of many, many hidden talents.
0:35:31 > 0:35:32HE CHUCKLES
0:35:32 > 0:35:35The song I'm singing has a lot of influences from the Ulster Scots
0:35:35 > 0:35:38in America - Turn Me Loose, Doc Pomus song.
0:35:38 > 0:35:40Bluegrass, sort of country swing to it.
0:35:40 > 0:35:41So it will be fun.
0:35:41 > 0:35:43CHEERING
0:35:49 > 0:35:53# Turn me loose, turn me loose, I say
0:35:53 > 0:35:58# Today, Jack, is gonna be the day I want you all to understand
0:35:58 > 0:36:02# That I'm your man, so turn me loose
0:36:03 > 0:36:08# Oh, turn me loose, turn me loose, I say
0:36:08 > 0:36:11# Gonna rock and roll as long as this band is gonna play
0:36:11 > 0:36:15# I'm gonna holler I'm gonna shout knock myself right out
0:36:15 > 0:36:16# Turn me loose
0:36:18 > 0:36:20# I got change in my pocket
0:36:21 > 0:36:26# I'm ready to go, I'm gonna take my baby to a movie show
0:36:26 > 0:36:29# And when I take her home I'm gonna kiss her goodnight
0:36:29 > 0:36:33# Turn me loose, turn me loose, turn me loose and let me go
0:36:33 > 0:36:35# Turn me loose
0:36:35 > 0:36:38# Turn me loose, I say
0:36:38 > 0:36:41# Today, Jack, is gonna be the day
0:36:41 > 0:36:43# I want you all to understand, yeah
0:36:43 > 0:36:45# That I'm your man... #
0:36:45 > 0:36:48Some piano, Brian, some piano! Thank you very much!
0:37:02 > 0:37:07# I got change in my pocket, I'm ready to go
0:37:07 > 0:37:10# Gonna take my baby to a movie show, yeah
0:37:10 > 0:37:14# And when I take her home I'm gonna kiss her goodnight
0:37:14 > 0:37:17# Turn me loose, turn me loose, turn me loose and let me go
0:37:17 > 0:37:19# Turn me loose
0:37:19 > 0:37:21# Oh, turn me loose, I say
0:37:21 > 0:37:25# Today, Jack, is gonna be the day
0:37:25 > 0:37:27# I want you all to understand, yeah
0:37:27 > 0:37:29# That I'm your man, so turn me loose... #
0:37:29 > 0:37:31Some pipes, Mr Monaghan, some pipes, please!
0:37:47 > 0:37:50# I got change in my pocket
0:37:50 > 0:37:51# I'm ready to go
0:37:51 > 0:37:54# Gonna take my baby to a movie show
0:37:54 > 0:37:58# And when I take her home I'm gonna kiss her goodnight
0:37:58 > 0:38:02# Turn me loose, turn me loose, turn me loose, oh let me go
0:38:02 > 0:38:04# Turn me loose
0:38:04 > 0:38:06# Turn me loose, I say
0:38:06 > 0:38:10# Today, Jack, is gonna be the day
0:38:10 > 0:38:13# I want you all to understand, yeah, that I'm your man
0:38:13 > 0:38:14# So turn me loose... #
0:38:14 > 0:38:16Sell me one, Frank, sell me one!
0:38:31 > 0:38:34# I got change in my pocket
0:38:34 > 0:38:36# I'm ready to go
0:38:36 > 0:38:39# Gonna take my baby to a movie show
0:38:39 > 0:38:43# And when I get her home I'm gonna kiss her goodnight
0:38:43 > 0:38:46# Turn me loose, turn me loose, turn me loose, oh let me go
0:38:46 > 0:38:48# Turn me loose
0:38:48 > 0:38:50# Turn me loose, I say
0:38:50 > 0:38:54# Gonna rock and roll as long as this band is gonna play
0:38:54 > 0:38:57# Gonna holler, gonna shout, gonna knock myself right out
0:38:57 > 0:38:59# So turn me loose
0:39:01 > 0:39:03# I'm gonna holler, gonna shout
0:39:03 > 0:39:06# Knock myself right out, so turn me loose
0:39:08 > 0:39:10# I'm gonna holler, gonna shout
0:39:10 > 0:39:12# And knock myself right out
0:39:16 > 0:39:21# So turn me loose
0:39:21 > 0:39:27# Oooo! #
0:39:31 > 0:39:33CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:39:36 > 0:39:39Andy, you play a lot more than the Highland pipes,
0:39:39 > 0:39:42especially in a scenario like this,
0:39:42 > 0:39:44where you've to accompany so many other musicians and...
0:39:44 > 0:39:47I mean, you've whistles and you've Lowland pipes,
0:39:47 > 0:39:50- you've all sorts of stuff going on. - Yeah, well, I mean...
0:39:50 > 0:39:54The Highland pipes have some disadvantages in that, one,
0:39:54 > 0:39:58they are very loud and two, they're in kind of awkward keys for a lot
0:39:58 > 0:40:03of other instruments, you know, B-flat, E-flat, C-minor, F-minor.
0:40:03 > 0:40:06Um...and the Lowland pipes lend themselves a lot easier to be
0:40:06 > 0:40:09accompanied, because they're quieter.
0:43:04 > 0:43:05CHEERING
0:43:07 > 0:43:10You said about roots music and a lot of that kind of bluegrass
0:43:10 > 0:43:13and roots music is very prevalent down through
0:43:13 > 0:43:15the Appalachian Mountains in the United States.
0:43:15 > 0:43:17Their music is so deeply intertwined with ours,
0:43:17 > 0:43:20in that, you know, it was the Irish immigrants when they met,
0:43:20 > 0:43:23and the Scottish immigrants when they met and all these people,
0:43:23 > 0:43:25and they fused that beautiful music up in the mountains
0:43:25 > 0:43:29and then out of that came bluegrass and the modern American music.
0:43:29 > 0:43:32So, with that in mind, I think everyone kind of gets a...
0:43:32 > 0:43:35feeling of connectivity from the music that we play.
0:43:35 > 0:43:37CHEERING
0:43:57 > 0:43:59# Don't you hear the train coming?
0:43:59 > 0:44:01# Coming down the track
0:44:01 > 0:44:03# On a one-way journey
0:44:03 > 0:44:05# Ain't coming back
0:44:05 > 0:44:07# I'm talking about the love train
0:44:09 > 0:44:13# Coming round the bend
0:44:13 > 0:44:15# Tell your mother and your brother
0:44:15 > 0:44:19# Tell your sister's brother's children, tell your friends
0:44:20 > 0:44:24# Stop whatever you're doing cos the train won't wait
0:44:24 > 0:44:28# I gotta get on board before it's too late
0:44:28 > 0:44:31# I'm talking about a love train
0:44:31 > 0:44:34# Coming round the bend
0:44:35 > 0:44:38# Oh, there's room for everybody whether you're rich or poor
0:44:38 > 0:44:44# Weak or strong
0:44:44 > 0:44:48# Open the door, open the door, open the door, get on board
0:44:49 > 0:44:52# Oh, oh, oh open the door
0:44:52 > 0:44:54# Open the door, open the door
0:44:54 > 0:44:56# Get on board
0:45:20 > 0:45:22# Stop whatever you're doing
0:45:22 > 0:45:24# Cos the train won't wait
0:45:24 > 0:45:27# I'm gonna get on board before it's too late
0:45:27 > 0:45:30# I'm talking about a love train
0:45:31 > 0:45:33# Coming round the bend
0:45:35 > 0:45:39# Oh, there's room for everybody, whether you're rich or poor
0:45:39 > 0:45:42# Weak or strong
0:45:44 > 0:45:46# Open the door, open the door, open the door
0:45:46 > 0:45:48# Get on board
0:45:49 > 0:45:53# Whoa, open the door, open the door, open the door
0:45:53 > 0:45:55# Open the door! Get on board
0:46:18 > 0:46:20# Oh
0:46:20 > 0:46:24# This train is bound by a land of milk and honey
0:46:24 > 0:46:28# Don't you wanna go? Don't you wanna go?
0:46:28 > 0:46:29# You can get on board
0:46:29 > 0:46:31# Don't need no money
0:46:31 > 0:46:34# Need a whole lot of love
0:46:40 > 0:46:42# Don't you hear the train coming?
0:46:42 > 0:46:44# Coming down the track
0:46:44 > 0:46:46# On a one-way journey
0:46:46 > 0:46:48# Ain't coming back
0:46:48 > 0:46:51# I'm talking about a love train
0:46:51 > 0:46:55# Coming round the bend
0:46:55 > 0:46:57# Oh, tell your mother and your brother
0:46:57 > 0:47:02# Tell your sister's brother's children, tell your friends!
0:47:04 > 0:47:06# Open the door, open the door
0:47:06 > 0:47:07# Open the door
0:47:07 > 0:47:09# Get on board
0:47:10 > 0:47:15# Oh, open the door, open the door, open the door
0:47:15 > 0:47:18# Open the door, open the door, open the door
0:47:18 > 0:47:22# Open the door, open the door, open the door
0:47:22 > 0:47:24# Get on board
0:47:24 > 0:47:26# Get on board
0:47:26 > 0:47:28# Get on board, oh, get on board. #
0:47:28 > 0:47:31CHEERING
0:47:36 > 0:47:38The way trad players accompany fiddle tunes over here
0:47:38 > 0:47:42- is different than they do at home, back in Cape Breton. - What's that difference, Brenley?
0:47:42 > 0:47:45The push is somewhere else, it's not like...
0:47:45 > 0:47:48It's like a different kind of a... It almost comes earlier.
0:47:48 > 0:47:50I'm not sure what it is, but I love it!
0:47:50 > 0:47:52Is it a little more driven, in style?
0:47:52 > 0:47:55- It is, it's so...- Yeah.- And it moves and it really makes it...
0:47:55 > 0:47:57Rather than going like... Ta-con-tika-du...
0:47:57 > 0:48:00It's like do-tika-tika-pa, du-du-du!
0:48:00 > 0:48:02- Yeah!- And it's really... It really...
0:48:02 > 0:48:03It's exciting.
0:48:03 > 0:48:06One of the songs you're doing is Small Of My Heart,
0:48:06 > 0:48:08tell us a little bit about that song.
0:48:08 > 0:48:11Well, my... The town that I grew up in is called Kincardine,
0:48:11 > 0:48:14which is a little Scottish town on the shores of Lake Huron.
0:48:14 > 0:48:19And we were in Australia on tour, and there were...
0:48:19 > 0:48:21They had got a call, basically, to say that...
0:48:21 > 0:48:23asking us to write a song about...
0:48:23 > 0:48:27about Kincardine, because we were celebrating our bicentennial.
0:48:27 > 0:48:31So, we wrote this tune and it really kind of comes from
0:48:31 > 0:48:33the little changes that have happened on the town.
0:48:33 > 0:48:36The bus station has moved from one street to the other.
0:48:36 > 0:48:39There's a Saturday parade that comes through town, a...
0:48:39 > 0:48:42- Like a band. - It's a parade of pipers...- Yeah.
0:48:42 > 0:48:46So, basically, the whole community gets together downtown.
0:48:46 > 0:48:49And... And it's about two-blocks long, the whole downtown.
0:48:49 > 0:48:52And everybody gets behind, lines up the street
0:48:52 > 0:48:55and gets behind the pipers and they pipe down and everybody walks.
0:48:55 > 0:48:57And then they sort of get munched up a little bit
0:48:57 > 0:49:01and then they turn around and everybody follows them back to the other end of town.
0:49:01 > 0:49:04There's a place in Fife in Scotland called Kincardine, as well.
0:49:04 > 0:49:05There is, I believe it's named after...
0:49:05 > 0:49:10I remember seeing Kincardine Bridge the first time we were in Scotland. And then I saw...
0:49:10 > 0:49:13I was, like, "Well, there comes the name - Kincardine!"
0:49:13 > 0:49:16APPLAUSE
0:49:30 > 0:49:34# Whenever I'm away I keep you in the small of my heart
0:49:36 > 0:49:38# The small of my heart
0:49:43 > 0:49:47# Whenever I'm away I keep you in the small of my heart
0:49:49 > 0:49:52# The small of my heart
0:49:55 > 0:49:59# Well, the bus don't stop on Harbour Street from now on
0:50:02 > 0:50:03# The lake is low
0:50:03 > 0:50:07# The robins' song have all been sung
0:50:08 > 0:50:13# Still I'm looking out for traffic just to drive slow
0:50:16 > 0:50:19# Cos when I leave It's hard to let you go
0:50:23 > 0:50:27# Whenever I'm away I keep you in the small of my heart
0:50:29 > 0:50:30# The small of my heart
0:50:36 > 0:50:40# Whenever I'm away I keep you in the small of my heart
0:50:42 > 0:50:44# The small of my heart
0:50:48 > 0:50:52# I haven't been up number nine for months
0:50:55 > 0:50:59# But the sign says "You're a stranger only once"
0:51:01 > 0:51:05# I've been practising the front crawl
0:51:05 > 0:51:09# To swim out to the breakwall
0:51:16 > 0:51:20# Whenever I'm away I keep you in the small of my heart
0:51:22 > 0:51:24# The small of my heart
0:51:29 > 0:51:33# Whenever I'm away I keep you in the small of my heart
0:51:35 > 0:51:37# The small of my heart
0:51:42 > 0:51:46# Ooh, ooh, ooh
0:51:49 > 0:51:53# Ooh, ooh-ooh-ooh, ooh
0:51:55 > 0:51:59# Ooh, ooh, ooh
0:52:01 > 0:52:06# Ooh, ooh-ooh-ooh, ooh
0:52:09 > 0:52:13# Saturday parade sure gonna bring out the crowds
0:52:15 > 0:52:18# And we'll march towards the light behind the clouds
0:52:21 > 0:52:26# No, I've never seen the sun come down
0:52:27 > 0:52:32# Quite like the way it does in my home town
0:52:36 > 0:52:40# Whenever I'm away I keep you in the small of my heart
0:52:42 > 0:52:44# The small of my heart
0:52:50 > 0:52:54# Whenever I'm away I keep you in the small of my heart
0:52:55 > 0:52:58# The small of my heart. #
0:53:03 > 0:53:06CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:53:06 > 0:53:10'You mentioned about the pipers parading in Kincardine, but today,'
0:53:10 > 0:53:12you are having to play with pipers in B Flat and E Flat.
0:53:12 > 0:53:15That is usually a little bit different from most trad players.
0:53:15 > 0:53:18I have a capo, so that solves all problems! Doesn't matter!
0:53:18 > 0:53:20- And for you, Lisa? - I have a set of hands!
0:53:20 > 0:53:22ALL LAUGH
0:53:23 > 0:53:25'It is always good fun to have everybody'
0:53:25 > 0:53:28driving away at the end. So, looking forward to that.
0:53:28 > 0:53:30I'll be ramping away on the chords!
0:53:32 > 0:53:35There is some great piping going on. so we are pretty excited to play
0:53:35 > 0:53:37some Scottish music.
0:53:39 > 0:53:41Andy, great to have you back home again.
0:53:41 > 0:53:45I love coming back here and really enjoy getting to play with the other
0:53:45 > 0:53:47musicians that we have here.
0:55:58 > 0:56:02'Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you have enjoyed the music and song'
0:56:02 > 0:56:03you have heard this evening.
0:56:03 > 0:56:06Safe home and please put your hands together, one more time,
0:56:06 > 0:56:10for all the fabulous musicians from both sides of the Atlantic.
0:56:10 > 0:56:14CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:58:17 > 0:58:22CHEERING AND APPLAUSE