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:00:11. > :00:16.Beethoven not once, not twice, but three times. We have an interview

:00:16. > :00:26.with Nigel Kennedy, and we bring you 24 hours of hope - Daniel Hope. This

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:00:51. > :00:55.am joined by a trio of guests who will be giving me their thoughts on

:00:55. > :00:59.what they have seen, heard and are looking forward to at the Proms. We

:00:59. > :01:03.are four weeks in, halfway through, but there has been no letup in the

:01:03. > :01:07.range of concerts from the past seven days. Never mind the new

:01:07. > :01:17.football season and retaining the Ashes, we have had the classical and

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:01:17. > :02:14.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 57 seconds

:02:14. > :02:18.athletic big hitters performing in that have taken place in the past

:02:18. > :02:21.week of Proms 2013. Inside our studio, based in the Royal College

:02:21. > :02:26.of Music, I am joined by a triumvirate of talent from the Proms

:02:26. > :02:31.family. First, she is a Proms old hand . She starred in the Last Night

:02:31. > :02:34.of the Proms in 2009 and has just played her fourth Proms concert at

:02:34. > :02:38.Cadogan Hall. She will be playing for us at the end of the show. It is

:02:38. > :02:42.trumpeter Alison Balsom. Then we have a conductor who has been

:02:42. > :02:45.rehearsing for his prom with our National Youth Orchestra tomorrow.

:02:45. > :02:49.He is officially known as the principal conductor of the Royal

:02:49. > :02:53.Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra, but unofficially, he is the Russian

:02:53. > :02:59.Scouser, Vasily Petrenko. And one of the world's greatest harpsichord

:02:59. > :03:04.players who made his Proms debut in 2009, Mahan Esfahani. Welcome to all

:03:04. > :03:10.of you. Members of the Proms family. Alison and Mahan, you have played at

:03:10. > :03:16.the prom together? We did. Quite some time ago. Nice to see you

:03:16. > :03:19.again. Vasily, how are they rehearsals going? As always, very

:03:19. > :03:24.intense. We did a couple of performances in Northern Ireland.

:03:25. > :03:28.They have been amazing. The achievement over the week was

:03:28. > :03:32.amazing. Well, the Proms has hundreds of artists appearing over

:03:32. > :03:37.the course of the season. One example is the violinist annual

:03:37. > :03:39.Hope, based in Vienna. But he was here a couple of weeks ago,

:03:39. > :03:43.performing with the BBC National Orchestra of Wales and with

:03:43. > :03:47.conductor Thomas Sondergard. For that concert, Daniel allowed Proms

:03:47. > :03:56.Extra to follow him for the day. How could we refuse ready for hours of

:03:56. > :04:02.Hope? This world is on the move. That is what it is. Violinist travel

:04:02. > :04:07.a lot. We are wandering minstrels, basically. It is now the fourth or

:04:07. > :04:13.fifth time I have worked with the BBC National Orchestra of Wales. I

:04:13. > :04:16.have played with Thomas Sondergard three times. The piece is very

:04:16. > :04:26.tricky. There are lots of things which could go wrong that we hope

:04:26. > :04:28.

:04:28. > :04:38.won't. Sometimes, one does have longer run throughs, but today is a

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:04:42. > :04:48.hectic day, so we take whatever we can. Now we are hurtling through the

:04:48. > :04:51.UK on our way to Manchester, where there is a Breakfast News appearance

:04:51. > :04:55.tomorrow morning, very early. From there, we are getting on the train

:04:55. > :04:59.to London, hopefully in time for the general rehearsal for the concert at

:05:00. > :05:03.the Albert Hall. You learn to make your own normality and you learn to

:05:03. > :05:07.be at home in different places very quickly. That is a consequence of

:05:07. > :05:17.the fact that you are on the road all the time. Delicious. I missed

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:05:21. > :05:25.this. It is early in the morning. It was a very long journey yesterday.

:05:25. > :05:33.We got here late last night. Breakfast TV. This is hectic even

:05:33. > :05:38.for me. How often do you practice a day? Is it hours? You try and get in

:05:38. > :05:44.four hours a day if you can, but if you are travelling, it is difficult.

:05:44. > :05:48.To cope with the level of stress that you have from travelling,

:05:48. > :05:51.performing, nerves, it needs great discipline. You have to know your

:05:51. > :05:59.needs. So when an audience comes and they see the performer, they don't

:05:59. > :06:03.know what that person has gone through to get to that stage. It is

:06:03. > :06:07.a real experience being at the Proms. You have got this

:06:07. > :06:11.unbelievable concert Hall, surrounded by people standing close

:06:11. > :06:15.by. The music is the most important thing, but without the audience, you

:06:15. > :06:24.have no one to communicate with. You hope it will be good, you never know

:06:24. > :06:29.what the audience reaction will be like. I am nervous and excited. We

:06:29. > :06:33.are backstage for the dress rehearsal, Rob agreed the most

:06:33. > :06:39.important rehearsal. This is a chance to play the piece the whole

:06:39. > :06:43.way through without stopping. In the musical world, there is often a

:06:43. > :06:48.saying that if you have a bad dress rehearsal, you have a good concert

:06:48. > :06:51.and if the dress rehearsal goes too well, you had better be careful.

:06:51. > :06:55.Having a televised prom is fantastic, because you have a record

:06:55. > :06:59.to look back on, but it is also an added element of stress because if

:06:59. > :07:05.you look up occasionally, you will see a camera or a red light to

:07:05. > :07:12.remind you of where you are. Certainly at this stage, it is

:07:12. > :07:18.getting close, so you feel the adrenaline beginning to rush. It is

:07:18. > :07:25.basically the worst moment. You want to go out and play, but you can't

:07:25. > :07:30.yet, so you feel like a caged tiger. Do you feel like a caged tiger,

:07:30. > :07:34.Alison, before going on stage? is something special about being

:07:34. > :07:39.about to go out. The adrenaline is pumping and you can't wait to get on

:07:39. > :07:45.with it. To see him doing that, I felt for him. It is an exciting

:07:45. > :07:49.moment. He says it is the worst it, but it is also when you feel alive.

:07:49. > :07:52.It was interesting to realise how complicated your lives are as

:07:52. > :07:58.international performers. People don't realise the amount of

:07:58. > :08:03.travelling and the logistics. light is never easy. They think

:08:03. > :08:06.about travelling in limos and drinking champagne, but in fact, it

:08:06. > :08:12.is a lot of very early morning flights, travelling straight to

:08:12. > :08:15.rehearsals, then straight to the concert. For the concert, there is a

:08:15. > :08:19.reception, interviews, media activity. Talking about a caged

:08:19. > :08:23.tiger, I am always trying to postpone the moment when I dress

:08:23. > :08:27.myself and go on stage. I do it at the last minute, because then you

:08:27. > :08:31.come in fresh. Your mind is ready. The benefit of conducting is that

:08:32. > :08:36.you don't need to warm up your hands or your breath. You are just warming

:08:37. > :08:41.up your mind. Mahan, how do you prepare 's if I had any moment of

:08:41. > :08:45.difficulty doing this, I would not be a musician. My friends know I

:08:45. > :08:48.have to be terribly unsociable. I will not be a good friend if I don't

:08:48. > :08:52.feel good about the performance. Someone said to me the other day

:08:52. > :08:58.after a concert, you must find it difficult to do all this travelling

:08:58. > :09:06.and all these concerts. I said, well, I have found that the days on

:09:06. > :09:11.which I don't perform are worse. That is terribly deep. It is not. I

:09:11. > :09:15.just don't like life that much outside of the stage. You choose to

:09:15. > :09:21.do it because it is your life and it gives it meaning. I see no reason to

:09:21. > :09:25.apologise for that. I was interested in the comment that Daniel made when

:09:25. > :09:30.hitting his Tunbridge about creating his own normality. How do you do

:09:30. > :09:33.that? It depends where you are. If I am playing at the Proms, it is my

:09:33. > :09:43.hometown. But on the other side of the world, there are certain things

:09:43. > :09:44.

:09:44. > :09:49.you need to make it feel like a routine. Materialistic clique, it is

:09:49. > :09:52.not much. A good cup of tea and a paper, maybe. But psychologically,

:09:52. > :09:58.you have to be strong and disciplined about making sure you

:09:58. > :10:02.feel at your peak fitness by the time of the concert. Sometimes I

:10:02. > :10:06.feel sad, because you are travelling a lot, you come to the place, and

:10:06. > :10:09.all you see is the hotel, the rehearsal venue and probably the

:10:09. > :10:14.railway station or airport. You never have time to discover the

:10:14. > :10:18.places. London is London, of course, and we perform regularly

:10:18. > :10:25.hear, so we know the city. That when you go to the beautiful parts of the

:10:25. > :10:31.planet, you are missing that. is because you are too much in

:10:31. > :10:36.demand, Vasily ! I think that savers us the problem of going on holiday.

:10:36. > :10:42.I have a staycation when I have a vacation. I sit at home and watch

:10:42. > :10:50.The Simpsons, basically. But for me, normalcy is about holding to what is

:10:50. > :10:55.close to you. For me, I talk to my father every day. I ask him about

:10:55. > :10:59.what I should do, and he listens to broadcasts and says, I think this

:10:59. > :11:08.did not go well. You should have done that. And that keeps you

:11:08. > :11:12.grounded. I think, would my father like this? Would you approve?

:11:12. > :11:16.is what you are thinking when you are playing? It is a matter of

:11:16. > :11:21.trust. We see all these audience members and we think, we don't know

:11:21. > :11:27.these people, but they like us. I want to be our friends. But we don't

:11:28. > :11:31.know them. You grab for people that you know and trust, and that makes

:11:31. > :11:36.home. Welcome lets have a look at the moment from Daniel Potts Mac

:11:36. > :11:46.performance at the Royal Albert Hall. -- from Daniel Potts Mac

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:11:46. > :12:30.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 57 seconds

:12:30. > :12:34.watch on the iPlayer on till tomorrow night. Still to come, the

:12:34. > :12:38.enfant terrible of the classical world, Nigel Kennedy. But now, the

:12:38. > :12:43.biggest, boldest, loudest naming classical music, Beethoven. Since

:12:43. > :12:46.the first days of Henry Wood, his music has been the backbone of the

:12:46. > :12:56.Proms repertoire. We are about to hear the beginning of a piece that

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:12:56. > :13:40.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 57 seconds

:13:40. > :13:46.incredibly popular, at why was this works a revolutionary? Firstly, to

:13:46. > :13:52.create a melody from just three notes was a revolutionary thing. And

:13:52. > :13:57.all this intense journey from C minor to C major at the very end,

:13:58. > :14:07.through so many circumstances and obstacles and so many tensions, was

:14:08. > :14:08.

:14:08. > :14:12.something revolutionary for that time. The piece goes through a big

:14:12. > :14:21.journey, a fight for eternal glory and paradise at the end, the

:14:21. > :14:26.paradise of C major, which is very modern now. Usually, people don't

:14:26. > :14:30.want to have something given to them. They value much more something

:14:30. > :14:35.they have achieved through hard work. That is what this is about.

:14:35. > :14:38.And in the 20th century, of course, it becomes one of the most difficult

:14:39. > :14:45.pieces for conductors to start. wanted to ask you about this,

:14:45. > :14:54.because it is an upbeat. You can treat it in various ways. There have

:14:54. > :15:03.been various masterclasses given in the 70s. They were given by someone

:15:03. > :15:06.who came from the Soviet Union to teach conducting. All of them were

:15:06. > :15:10.struggling to stop the peace, because the Leningrad Philemon Nick

:15:10. > :15:20.had been famous -- the Leningrad Philharmonic had been famous for

:15:20. > :15:22.

:15:22. > :15:26.dealing with the sound. If you give a downbeat, nothing happens. If you

:15:26. > :15:29.are not experienced enough, it can fall down there. All young

:15:29. > :15:37.conductors were struggling because they did not have enough authority

:15:37. > :15:45.for this orchestra. Then someone said, what is so difficult? Look,

:15:45. > :15:51.look at me. Just do it like that. One 2... And the whole orchestra

:15:51. > :15:55.waits. That is one of the examples that you need to have certain

:15:55. > :16:00.authority with the orchestra. And you need to trust the orchestra to

:16:00. > :16:06.know that this up heat will happen in time, right with you, in the

:16:06. > :16:14.right character -- this upbeat. know the beginning of that piece so

:16:14. > :16:19.well. It has been performed 144 times at the Proms in 119 seasons,

:16:19. > :16:26.so it is played twice! It is not just the famous movement, there is a

:16:26. > :16:31.lot to listen out for. I know you have picked out a favourite clip.

:16:31. > :16:38.am ready for you to disagree with me as a conductor, I have only played

:16:38. > :16:44.the forehand piano version of this a few times in college. I think...

:16:44. > :16:47.This symphony and this performance made me realise I am bitterly

:16:47. > :16:52.opposed to playing only one movement of a work on the radio. I think we

:16:52. > :16:58.have to fear the whole thing. Funny, the gift of Beethoven, what

:16:58. > :17:04.he does is so special # for me, the gift of Beethoven is that all

:17:04. > :17:07.movements are a rhetorically statement. If we look at and Elgar

:17:07. > :17:13.statement it is one cyclical statement. For Beethoven to do this,

:17:13. > :17:17.it is very revolutionary. When I listen to the second movement, I

:17:17. > :17:22.realise this blustery loudmouth that Beethoven is, he shows you his heart

:17:22. > :17:26.a little bit. He says, I am a weak person. When I listen to that second

:17:26. > :17:32.and third movement and when I listen to the last chords of the fourth

:17:32. > :17:36.movement, I think, it is not heroic. I feel a great sadness when

:17:36. > :17:46.Beethoven is blustery and I think this clip will show a bit why that

:17:46. > :17:46.

:17:46. > :18:26.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 57 seconds

:18:26. > :18:30.in C minor but ends in C major. The record of the week, David Owen

:18:30. > :18:40.Norris takes us on a trip and is our guide to the last chord in

:18:40. > :19:10.

:19:10. > :19:14.Beethoven's fifth Symphony. So much has happened up by the time we get

:19:14. > :19:17.to the finale, Beethoven is fizzing with energy and he can't stop. He is

:19:17. > :19:20.like an athlete who keeps running long after he has passed the

:19:20. > :19:25.finishing tape. We hear accord which finishing tape. We hear accord which

:19:26. > :19:32.could be the but in fact there is a third as much music still to come --

:19:32. > :19:37.that could be the end, but in fact there is as dead as much music still

:19:37. > :19:43.to come. Beethoven tries and tries to finish and eventually gets to

:19:43. > :19:53.this point. Will he manage it? No. Can't stop. Still can't stop. Have

:19:53. > :20:07.

:20:07. > :20:15.about this? No. Just can't stop! In fact, you can't stop until he plays

:20:15. > :20:23.not a C major chord but the single note C. And then he can stop, at

:20:23. > :20:28.last. Now, one definition of a discord is something that you can't

:20:28. > :20:34.stop on. Amazingly enough, the effect of the fifth Symphony has

:20:34. > :20:44.been to turn this lovely C major chord technically into a discord.

:20:44. > :20:48.

:20:48. > :20:51.And Beethoven can't stop until he will be back next week. If you go to

:20:51. > :20:56.our Proms website you will find an extended version of David and his

:20:56. > :21:01.musings as well. I think we have come principally discussed that

:21:01. > :21:06.particular symphony. Vasily, you are in the midst of rehearsing for

:21:06. > :21:12.Beethoven's ninth. What is it about the ninth that remain so eternally

:21:12. > :21:20.the ninth that remain so eternally popular? It is a very special piece.

:21:20. > :21:24.It is somehow about what we can achieve in our lives. It starts from

:21:24. > :21:28.this creation of the universe. The beginning is really like someone

:21:28. > :21:33.creating the universe from nothing, from the fifth, then it creates the

:21:33. > :21:37.massive storm. It is global, a global symphony, one of the most

:21:37. > :21:42.performed in the world. It is also very personal because each person

:21:42. > :21:47.understands it in a very personal way. I would love to ask you how you

:21:47. > :21:51.feel the National youth Orchestra at their energy to a piece that is so

:21:51. > :21:57.well-known. They are amazing kids we will have nearly 400 performers on

:21:57. > :22:03.Sunday. Of course, most of them are doing it for the first time. The

:22:03. > :22:08.very first time. That makes it so special. You have an immense amount

:22:08. > :22:15.of energy. Sometimes I feel you need to control this energy very

:22:15. > :22:20.carefully. Because it can blow away. They give themselves 100% for

:22:20. > :22:28.every single note. Every single person. Because of that, the energy

:22:28. > :22:34.and the blast is absolutely massive. You were in that orchestra, weren't

:22:34. > :22:39.you? I was, that was my first experience and I agree, the energy

:22:39. > :22:43.committee is very hard to recapture that. You have been practising your

:22:43. > :22:49.instrument for a long time, the standard of the orchestra is very

:22:49. > :22:53.high. Technically it is fantastic. My memories of playing on the

:22:53. > :22:57.stage, particularly at the Proms with the National Youth Orchestra,

:22:58. > :23:04.some of my greatest musical memories. Can you ever have too much

:23:04. > :23:07.Beethoven? Clearly not at the Proms, nor on Proms Extra. We are going to

:23:07. > :23:13.talk about Beethoven's fourth Piano Concerto. After an absence of nearly

:23:13. > :23:16.20 years, on Thursday night the Beatles stage saw the return of the

:23:16. > :23:22.Japanese born soloist Mitsuko Uchida with one of the great visiting

:23:22. > :23:26.orchestras, the Bavarian radio Symphony and conductor Mariss

:23:26. > :23:29.Jansons. It was all was going to be a highlight and it did not

:23:29. > :23:39.disappoint. The queue was around the block, the anticipation was

:23:39. > :23:41.phenomenal. What is it about her? Who knows her? It was so marvellous

:23:41. > :23:46.that we saw the fourth Piano Concerto of Beethoven. These people

:23:46. > :23:52.talk about eight woven as an inheritor of Mozart which he is not

:23:52. > :24:01.really. -- talk about Beethoven as an inheritor of Mozart. This is the

:24:01. > :24:07.one piece in which he tries to have the charm of Mozart. She has such a

:24:07. > :24:17.way with drama, sometimes understated, sometimes in the style

:24:17. > :24:18.

:24:18. > :24:24.of Mitsuko Uchida. For me it was the operatic ambivalence, we have been

:24:24. > :24:34.talking about heroic and I think she stood away from that kind of eight

:24:34. > :24:34.

:24:34. > :26:13.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 57 seconds

:26:13. > :26:18.performer. Her face is so expressive. It goes without saying

:26:18. > :26:21.that her technique is formidable but more importantly she is musically

:26:21. > :26:25.intelligent and she is able to reveal her personality through her

:26:25. > :26:29.playing. She takes wonderful risks, she is almost perfect, if you can

:26:29. > :26:35.ever use that word in an art form. She is perfect, the all-round

:26:35. > :26:42.musician. I want a slight piano nerd question here, I was fascinated by

:26:42. > :26:52.how still her forearms are, Italy seems to be in the fingers. Is that

:26:52. > :26:58.

:26:58. > :27:04.something you would aspire to -- it wonderful Viennese objectivity to

:27:04. > :27:10.her playing. She can take the swell of the voice and it goes from loud

:27:10. > :27:14.to very soft in one phrase. That sort of nuance, think the technique

:27:14. > :27:19.is so well suited to that concerto. I would be very curious to hear her

:27:19. > :27:25.play the Emperor Concerto or the first Concerto, which are so

:27:25. > :27:33.irritatingly blustery as Beethoven can be. I would love to hear what

:27:33. > :27:41.she does with that. This is where Beethoven is Mozart. I enjoyed it so

:27:41. > :27:45.much last night. The one thing which I took from Mike quick meeting with

:27:45. > :27:51.-- my quick meeting with was how she described her experience of

:27:51. > :27:56.Beethoven. She says she sees him as a man who was in hell but who was

:27:56. > :28:00.constantly questing for heaven, for the light. I had that image in my

:28:00. > :28:03.mind throughout the performance, does that resonate with you? I don't

:28:03. > :28:08.think he was so much in hell himself. Of course his life wasn't

:28:08. > :28:13.easy. You can see a lot of troubles which were happening with him and

:28:13. > :28:21.which he made himself. It is just he was always trying to find something

:28:21. > :28:28.new, something rather radical for this time in life, music, the

:28:28. > :28:34.organisation of concerts. This fourth Concerto was premiered in a

:28:34. > :28:41.concert of music only by Beethoven. It was a four-hour concert and there

:28:41. > :28:46.hadn't been one rehearsal. The fact that Beethoven even stopped in the

:28:46. > :28:51.middle because someone made a mistake, he said, we offer is for

:28:51. > :28:57.it, we need to start from the beginning. -- we are very sorry. He

:28:57. > :29:02.was always trying to satisfy his wish for progress, his wish to go

:29:02. > :29:07.forward, his wish to move the music forward and find this other world.

:29:07. > :29:10.It might be paradise, it might be hell. He wanted to go somewhere.

:29:10. > :29:16.Only those people who do something like that, they move the music

:29:16. > :29:24.forward. You can find both Beethoven concerts on the BBC iPlayer. We are

:29:24. > :29:28.going to move onto a man who delights whenever he appears. This

:29:28. > :29:35.year he was back with the work that catapulted his work into the

:29:35. > :29:39.classical stratosphere. He is unconventional, opinionated, debris

:29:39. > :29:42.and violinist with a love of Aston Villa. I am talking about Nigel

:29:42. > :29:46.Kennedy who I caught up with after his rehearsal of Vivaldi's four

:29:46. > :29:55.seasons. Typically for Nigel Kennedy, nothing is what you would

:29:55. > :30:00.expect. There is so much going on behind us. The deconstruction of it

:30:00. > :30:04.at the moment! A lot of people will be coming to see Nigel Kennedy

:30:04. > :30:07.playing the four seasons and they will get a surprise. They will get

:30:07. > :30:17.more for the money because there is this section where are my Arab

:30:17. > :30:51.

:30:51. > :30:55.friends and Pulis Denny and friends improvisation. Bach was a great

:30:55. > :30:59.improviser. If you literally play what Vivaldi wrote, it sounds

:30:59. > :31:09.ridiculous. So having jazz musicians is taking forward the art of

:31:09. > :31:16.

:31:16. > :31:26.improvisation from the 1600s, but is then linked into The four Seasons

:31:26. > :31:38.

:31:38. > :31:43.hoping. I never like to count my chickens before the gig.

:31:43. > :31:49.Nigel talked a lot about improvising, and particularly about

:31:49. > :31:54.how normal improvisation was during the baroque period. Allison, you are

:31:54. > :31:59.steeped in the period. Is that something you entertain? Absolutely.

:31:59. > :32:05.There are so many parallels between jazz and the baroque period. It is

:32:05. > :32:10.mainly about rhythm and getting this elusive groove. It is very subtle

:32:10. > :32:15.between getting and not getting it, but it applies to both genres. And

:32:15. > :32:22.improvisation is important in both of them, in terms of being

:32:22. > :32:28.spontaneous and alive and exciting. It is never quite the same two times

:32:28. > :32:38.in a row. It is fascinating. Although it is a disciplined art

:32:38. > :32:43.form, you are able to express yourself as a performer. I also like

:32:43. > :32:49.that jazz and Barack doesn't need a conductor. That is a nice side.

:32:49. > :32:53.Nigel's concert is on the iPlayer and will be showed on the TV on the

:32:53. > :32:58.23rd of August. There are still a lot more to look forward to at the

:32:58. > :33:02.BBC Proms. Anything particularly caught your eye? I am excited about

:33:02. > :33:12.Vasily's prom, not least because the soloist are fabulous. And he's

:33:12. > :33:12.

:33:12. > :33:17.sitting next to you. And Vasily, you have got your prom. I am very much

:33:17. > :33:22.looking forward to tomorrow, but if I can pick something else, I need to

:33:22. > :33:27.be in Oslo in the next week, so I can't stay at the Royal Albert

:33:27. > :33:35.Hall. But there is a concert on Tuesday where the audience will be

:33:35. > :33:44.able to listen to the second piano Concerto by a soloist that is rarely

:33:44. > :33:53.played. And Mahan, how about you? Well, I have got to plug one of my

:33:53. > :34:00.favourite pieces. I think it will be on the 14thth, but I am not sure. If

:34:00. > :34:06.you say check music, it is of course some of the best music. This country

:34:06. > :34:12.punches above its weight in terms of musical quality. Anything nation

:34:12. > :34:15.macro, I like. So I have to plug my adopted people. And you have. Thank

:34:15. > :34:19.you very much. We have Alison's performance still to look forward

:34:19. > :34:29.to, but here is a Proms Extra preview of one of the BBC for

:34:29. > :34:29.

:34:29. > :35:16.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 57 seconds

:35:16. > :35:21.You can see that performance in full on BBC Four on Thursday night. That

:35:21. > :35:25.is it for Proms Extra. Next week, I will be joined by another trumpeter,

:35:25. > :35:29.the Norwegian sensation Tine Thing Helseth, the vocal polymath, Mary

:35:29. > :35:32.King. I will talk to the first woman ever to conduct the Last Night of

:35:32. > :35:37.the Proms, Marin Alsop. And on the sofa, fresh from performing at the

:35:37. > :35:42.open class ROM, Britain's late Laura Mvula. You can catch the Urban

:35:42. > :35:47.Classic Prom later tonight live on radio one, 1Xtra and Radio 3 at

:35:47. > :35:53.eight o'clock, which is something you don't often say ! You can also