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:00:00. > :00:11.Tonight, we have two pieces from Ten Pieces. We raise our voices with a

:00:12. > :00:14.Child of Our Time. We meet the new leaders of the classical pack. It

:00:15. > :00:44.can only be Proms Extra. Hello and welcome to Proms Extra. If

:00:45. > :00:48.the Proms season is a designer label, we are the high street

:00:49. > :00:52.equivalent. Giving you the latest updates on what has been happening

:00:53. > :02:18.across the road. Take a look at these catwalk performances.

:02:19. > :02:34.# Is ground control to Major Tom # You really made the grade

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:02:53. > :02:58.life of the Proms. Overlooking the hall is our Studio in the Royal

:02:59. > :03:09.College of Music. Proms Extra isn't the same without guests. This is one

:03:10. > :03:18.of the top mezzo-soprano. She's no stranger to the Proms. She is no

:03:19. > :03:30.longer a stranger to Proms Extra. It's a warm welcome to Susan

:03:31. > :03:32.Bakeley. An award-winning multi instrumentalist, producer, writer

:03:33. > :03:38.and broadcaster who worked with the biggest names in pop, classical,

:03:39. > :03:43.dance, film and theatre. He's also a world-class DJ which will come in

:03:44. > :03:52.handy for the Proms Extra wrap party. Welcome. Talking of parties,

:03:53. > :03:57.our final guest has made his mark as a new and exciting composure. He

:03:58. > :04:01.invited everyone to join him for a noisy, wild party that will raise

:04:02. > :04:06.the roof in London. In other words, he has a world premier being

:04:07. > :04:12.performed at the Royal Albert Hall for the last night of the Proms.

:04:13. > :04:22.Welcome Tom Howard. Full-term fer forming is Oliver Castes at the end

:04:23. > :04:30.of the show -- performing. How was that? An exciting experience. To be

:04:31. > :04:35.surrounded by the choir and the BBC National Orchestra of Wales who

:04:36. > :04:39.played wonderfully. The choir who cushioned us with an amazing sound

:04:40. > :04:44.was a privilege. Moving. We will talk more about that work and 245

:04:45. > :04:48.Prom later. Just, you are no Strangers to the Proms. You had your

:04:49. > :04:54.own back in 2017. The Human Planet Prom. It's quite something? Amazing.

:04:55. > :04:59.I performed at the Royal Albert Hall many times. It's my favourite venue

:05:00. > :05:04.in the world. It has a sense of occasion performing there. Actually,

:05:05. > :05:08.for the Human Planet series I originally also recorded with the

:05:09. > :05:13.National Orchestra of Wales as well. It was great to see them performing

:05:14. > :05:18.on Saturday in Child of Our Time. That was our great. Tom, how

:05:19. > :05:24.terrified are you about last night of Proms? Terrified is not the right

:05:25. > :05:27.word. Extremely excited. An incredible opportunity and

:05:28. > :05:36.incredible gig to get. I'm looking forward to hearing what the Proms

:05:37. > :05:42.Youth Ensemble do with it. Can you give us clues about the work? It

:05:43. > :05:49.starts loud, stays loud and gets louder. Nice I see what you are

:05:50. > :05:59.aiming for. Nice to you have here. The Proms tries to have something

:06:00. > :06:04.for everybody. This season there is the CBeebies Proms and Ten Pieces

:06:05. > :06:08.made a welcome return to the hall. It's the BBC initiative to encourage

:06:09. > :06:12.children to be inspired by classical music. They listen to Ten Pieces and

:06:13. > :06:17.respond creatively. Last year was aimed at primary school children.

:06:18. > :06:20.This year it's the turn of the secondary kids much you are

:06:21. > :06:25.ambassador, were you impressed by what the kids came up with?

:06:26. > :06:30.Absolutely. I think it's very exciting to be engaging with young

:06:31. > :06:42.people who are going to be inspired by the 10 pieces. Last year I worked

:06:43. > :06:47.at a school, Mary Magdalene. They looked at the Wagner piece. Great to

:06:48. > :06:51.be involved on a practical level and encourage people to listen to those

:06:52. > :07:11.pieces. Let us listen to one of the featured pieces at the Prom.

:07:12. > :07:55.The BBC Philharmonic Orchestra there. Accompanied by dancers. You

:07:56. > :07:58.said you worked with young people, is it a tricky age to engage with

:07:59. > :08:04.classical music? Not really. They were open to it. That piece was

:08:05. > :08:12.powerful. It's quite an arousing piece. They can hear something they

:08:13. > :08:17.can identify with in terms of the, I guess, the motif that comes back. It

:08:18. > :08:23.feels liken an exciting piece. The energy is infectious. Overall, it

:08:24. > :08:26.hasn't been difficult to talk to young people about the 10 pieces.

:08:27. > :08:31.They have been excited when they have talked about it. It is key to

:08:32. > :08:35.choice the right works. There is a big story behind that. We can get

:08:36. > :08:38.involved in the context. When you worked with young people, have you

:08:39. > :08:46.found that is the way to really get them sparked up? I'm interested in

:08:47. > :08:53.the cross curriculum boundaries broke down for kids to know what was

:08:54. > :08:56.going on around that time that helped the composer write the piece.

:08:57. > :09:01.What art was being done at that time. Not only the historical

:09:02. > :09:07.context, everything that was going. The science being done. I think

:09:08. > :09:12.that's the way forward to encourage and inspire children. I have to say,

:09:13. > :09:16.they obviously had great discussions working on that dance they did. I

:09:17. > :09:20.thought it was fabulous. That's very important as well, that children

:09:21. > :09:26.understand that it's about storytelling and expression and that

:09:27. > :09:32.music should be an extension of your identity, feelings and thoughts and

:09:33. > :09:36.ideas. It's great to actually contextualise thises muse You are

:09:37. > :09:40.write sick. Ing a piece for the Last Night of the Proms. How will that

:09:41. > :09:43.work? The first rehearsal is in a week's time. What we will do is try

:09:44. > :09:48.and build up this working relationship together. And to really

:09:49. > :09:53.see... I write the piece so they can making it theirs. So they have

:09:54. > :09:58.ownership to it. That's important to me as composer with all the work I

:09:59. > :10:03.do and all the artists and groups that they have an ownership and put

:10:04. > :10:08.their own identity on it. I will not be precious if they want to do

:10:09. > :10:13.something different or have their own interpretation. It's easy to

:10:14. > :10:20.have an interpretation of the story and what is going on. Which is why

:10:21. > :10:26.it's one of the strong 10 pieces. Were you inspired in 10 pieces at

:10:27. > :10:30.their age. Was anyone a catalyst for you in classical music? I went to

:10:31. > :10:37.children's classic concerts in Glasgow much I don't know if they go

:10:38. > :10:41.on. It's a same vain as 10 Pieces. I saw an orchestra and being in a

:10:42. > :10:46.rated through what was going on. And being inspired by it. It really

:10:47. > :10:51.planted the seed with me, as I'm sure 10 Pieces it doing the same.

:10:52. > :10:54.What got you inspired? I was thinking about the fact when I was a

:10:55. > :11:03.child my father was a musician. A school teacher, but a musician. We

:11:04. > :11:07.watched Fantasia am I wrong in thinking it's a similar thing. There

:11:08. > :11:15.were lots of short pieces of music with a visual which helped when you

:11:16. > :11:23.were a young child. It's - for me, I am a film composer. I loved

:11:24. > :11:28.listening to and watching great film composer like Bernard Herman. I

:11:29. > :11:31.should have been Psycho. I watched it one night iechl was 10 or 11. I

:11:32. > :12:03.was blown away by it. Herman was us influenced by... More -- It put me

:12:04. > :12:09.off sweeping and mopping... I'm still allergic. One of the featured

:12:10. > :12:18.pieces, Vaughan William The Lark Ascending is about to fly high with

:12:19. > :12:22.Chord of the Week. The chord that underpins The Lark Ascending.

:12:23. > :12:26.Vaughan William gives his lark, the solo violin, only five notes of the

:12:27. > :12:30.scale, the mode that underlies so much of the folk music. It hes a as

:12:31. > :12:39.if the lark is the voice of the countryside itself.

:12:40. > :12:45.There is a curious emptiness about the chord. Most chords have a note

:12:46. > :12:53.three notes up from the base. This chord has no third. If it did, it

:12:54. > :12:57.would sound like this. Yet, anyone who knows this lovely piece will

:12:58. > :13:01.have had that low G in mind all along much you might have thought I

:13:02. > :13:05.was missing something out when I played our Chord of the Week.

:13:06. > :13:08.Vaughan William put the G in our mind at the beginning of the piece

:13:09. > :13:10.before the soloist comes in, down in the second violins. They play it and

:13:11. > :13:25.then they leave it. The colour of the harmony depends on

:13:26. > :13:33.us remembering that G. Remembering something that's no longer there.

:13:34. > :13:38.Nostalgia. Vaughan William composed nostalgia into the first moments of

:13:39. > :13:42.the place. He put the first draft in the draw when he signed up to the

:13:43. > :13:46.army and didn't finished it until he came home. Thatter ared G has come

:13:47. > :14:45.to signify a whole lost world. Tom, seeing those young lads there

:14:46. > :14:49.in uniform, it really does make that piece of music feel even more

:14:50. > :14:52.powerful it was always a beautiful listen, always charming, it sets

:14:53. > :14:58.that dark and political tone to it as well, doesn't it? How could it

:14:59. > :15:04.get more poignant. What a contrast this beautiful music and the

:15:05. > :15:18.absolute horrors of war. It's seen as Mel conic and nostalgic but very

:15:19. > :15:22.pastoral. How do you respond to it? He wrote it when staying on holiday

:15:23. > :15:32.in Margate down the coast from where I live. Looking out at the sky over

:15:33. > :15:36.the sea, I can well see how he was inspired because, when we can, we do

:15:37. > :15:40.that every single night, go out and look at the unis set. There is a

:15:41. > :15:45.dark side. A boy saw him on that occasion writing and thought he was

:15:46. > :15:49.writing secret messages and reported him as being a German spy. He was

:15:50. > :15:52.arrested on that occasion. It's interesting all of this because

:15:53. > :15:56.after that, after the war, he revise is advised the piece much he had

:15:57. > :16:00.been a stretcher bearer during the course of the war. You wonder how

:16:01. > :16:02.those experiences would have impacted on the revision of the

:16:03. > :16:11.music. I find it very powerful because it

:16:12. > :16:18.reminds me a lot of those... The pentatonic scale, which is known by

:16:19. > :16:21.a different name in India. Yehudi Menuhin performed with rubbish and

:16:22. > :16:41.grow. -- Dubai. It has a drone sound come

:16:42. > :16:47.in the same way as an Indian classical piece. -- Ravi Shankar.

:16:48. > :16:53.The fact he stays so harmonically consistent all the way through, it

:16:54. > :16:57.almost makes it more poignant he has created this soundscape. Which draws

:16:58. > :17:02.you in. Over which the violin can do its thing. It's interesting hearing

:17:03. > :17:05.you talk about the influences on different composers. We know how

:17:06. > :17:09.much Vaughan Williams loved folk music, he and his colleagues went

:17:10. > :17:13.uncollected old English tunes, which one could argue you could hear in

:17:14. > :17:19.that. How much do you come in your work, put up on music of the people,

:17:20. > :17:23.if you like? It's very important to me to drop on all kinds of different

:17:24. > :17:30.forms. For example I'm a flamenco guitarist, play a lot of classical

:17:31. > :17:36.and jazz piano, different forms of guitar. Flamenco for me is a form of

:17:37. > :17:40.music that has been elevated over time to almost a classical form. It

:17:41. > :17:47.was originally a folk form from Rajasthan in India. It started that

:17:48. > :17:54.way and developed and picked up Moorish traditions. In the hands of

:17:55. > :18:00.other people it became a much more elevated form. Originally, there was

:18:01. > :18:05.a lot of protest from people, Andrei Segovia, who said he wanted to take

:18:06. > :18:09.the guitar away from the noisy hands of the flamenco guitarist. It's

:18:10. > :18:13.interesting when you see a folk form that rises above those initial

:18:14. > :18:24.prejudices against the musicians. I think it's wonderful. You can find

:18:25. > :18:28.the Ten Pieces from online. A look at Child of Our Time from Tippett

:18:29. > :18:33.and a performance by cellist Oliver Coates. When you started composing

:18:34. > :18:36.did you feel like you were breaking down boundaries, Nitin? When you're

:18:37. > :18:40.composing a piece you don't think about the aftermath of what happens

:18:41. > :18:43.when you've composed it all when it heard, you're thinking about the

:18:44. > :18:47.feeling at the time, you have to be very present minded and follow the

:18:48. > :18:51.flow of what you feel. It's different if you are writing for a

:18:52. > :18:55.commission. If you're writing for yourself it's just about flow of

:18:56. > :19:01.feeling, channelling what is around you, trying to give it a voice. Do

:19:02. > :19:07.you label yourself as a certain type of composer? Classical-

:19:08. > :19:12.contemporary? I hate labels, but I suppose I've worked in so many

:19:13. > :19:18.different genres, I work in film, television, I work as a composer for

:19:19. > :19:22.classical orchestras as well. I've done lots of different things. I

:19:23. > :19:27.don't really like labels, I like working as a DJ Haswell. The labels

:19:28. > :19:32.just restrict your imagination and possibility. You'll like the next

:19:33. > :19:35.film. There continues to be a new wave of young contemporary composers

:19:36. > :19:38.emerging, making classical music their own way. We had the decks with

:19:39. > :19:58.one composer in particular. Classical music is such an important

:19:59. > :20:02.part of human culture. In the whole world now. Often it feels like it's

:20:03. > :20:08.hiding itself in a bit of a bubble and has become a kind of historical

:20:09. > :20:16.art form for some people, a highbrow academic art form for others.

:20:17. > :20:22.I see myself as a classical composer. I'm writing music that

:20:23. > :20:27.reflects the world I live in, I want to share with my peer group. The

:20:28. > :20:31.solution for me was to put it on in clubs and bars where most people go

:20:32. > :20:35.for music. Instantly, the public's more relaxed, they don't feel they

:20:36. > :20:39.have to behave in any particular way. And if they don't like the

:20:40. > :20:41.piece they are not stuck in a seat, they can go to the bar and get a

:20:42. > :20:56.drink. When you bring in electronics to

:20:57. > :21:05.classical music it's important you make it interactive with the live

:21:06. > :21:09.performance. With the cello multi-tracks, a school has freed a

:21:10. > :21:15.minute, it tells the cellist to play certain phrases, which is imitating

:21:16. > :21:22.sounds of recorded cello, I then imitate the live cello bag, a

:21:23. > :21:35.secular feedback loop between us. -- imitate the live cello back. -- a

:21:36. > :21:39.circular feedback loop. I'm not trying to make pop music dressed up

:21:40. > :21:43.with classical instrumentation, I'm more interested in the deeper

:21:44. > :21:46.essence or energy of contemporary culture, taking that on board into a

:21:47. > :22:10.serious classical composition. People always ask me, would your

:22:11. > :22:15.grandfather approve of you using electronic instruments? Do you think

:22:16. > :22:19.he would have made electronic music? When we look at the history of

:22:20. > :22:23.farcical music you see technology evolving. Mozart wrote his clarinet

:22:24. > :22:31.concerto for early models of the clarinet. We are always looking for

:22:32. > :22:35.new sounds. It's totally natural that second user, when there is a

:22:36. > :22:38.new way of making sounds, they take that on board. They think there is

:22:39. > :22:45.this new strand of classical music connecting with electronic music. It

:22:46. > :22:46.perhaps has a closer connection with contemporary life as well, and

:22:47. > :23:20.contemporary culture. That was composer Gabriel Prokofiev,

:23:21. > :23:24.whose work is also featured in the Ten Pieces from. One of many

:23:25. > :23:27.classical composers doing it their way. Tom, did it resonate with you,

:23:28. > :23:32.hearing Gabriel talk about his inspiration and what he's trying to

:23:33. > :23:37.achieve? It's really important for composers to stay current, stay

:23:38. > :23:40.engaged in your community, to demystify the compositional process.

:23:41. > :23:44.It's really important for us to do this. I have utmost respect for

:23:45. > :23:49.Gabriel to be doing this. I know a of my colleagues from the Royal

:23:50. > :23:54.College of music have similar nights, where they put on

:23:55. > :23:57.contemporary music in pubs, clubs and venues where you wouldn't expect

:23:58. > :24:03.contemporary music to be. I think it's absolutely fantastic, I think

:24:04. > :24:11.it is the future. Nitin, do you feel there is an actor to -- appetite for

:24:12. > :24:17.it? If you decontextualised classical music, you hear it in a

:24:18. > :24:20.different way, come to it in a different perspective. If you make

:24:21. > :24:27.it more accessible to people who wouldn't come across it otherwise...

:24:28. > :24:34.Years ago I had written a piece for the Britten symposium. I played it

:24:35. > :24:39.at a club called Tim Ferri. A man had seen me a few days ago, there

:24:40. > :24:48.was somebody who had come to see something totally different. -- a

:24:49. > :24:52.club called Fabric. People have preconceptions that music, certain

:24:53. > :24:56.types of music can only be for a certain audience. They understand

:24:57. > :25:02.you studied electronic music back in the day. That in the day. It was in

:25:03. > :25:06.the day, the late 70s. I went to city University. The degree there

:25:07. > :25:12.included an element of electronic music. There was nothing digital

:25:13. > :25:17.about it at that point. We're talking tapes and cutting tapes and

:25:18. > :25:23.splicing tapes and that. There were some really cutting edge composers

:25:24. > :25:28.at the time. An Argentinian composer was there. Simon Emmerson was one of

:25:29. > :25:32.our tutors. All very involved in the contemporary music scene. I got very

:25:33. > :25:36.involved in the contemporary music scene, not necessarily electronic.

:25:37. > :25:42.We did work alongside them at the time. You do a lot of contemporary

:25:43. > :25:46.repertoire, you were constantly with composers on new works. I have done

:25:47. > :25:51.a lot of contemporary music, yes. It's a huge challenge. Sometimes I

:25:52. > :25:56.think, maybe I won't... Yes, I will, actually. Because it's great to feel

:25:57. > :26:02.you're part of a new history of music. Do you notice an evolving

:26:03. > :26:07.sound world? Do you think there are real changes you could sort of

:26:08. > :26:11.document, if you like? In recent times, it's come back to being more

:26:12. > :26:15.melodic contemporary music, I find, I don't know whether you think the

:26:16. > :26:26.same thing? There was a point when it became quite obscure and not very

:26:27. > :26:29.helpful to listeners, really. Now, I think, there are elements... It

:26:30. > :26:34.doesn't mean it's easier for listeners, but the challenge is in a

:26:35. > :26:40.different way. I also like it when people like Gabriel Prokofiev, he's

:26:41. > :26:46.mixing electronic music with classical music and live players. I

:26:47. > :26:51.really like that because it's a natural evolution from people who

:26:52. > :26:57.compose with no packages on computer, called Logic or sieve

:26:58. > :27:08.alias, you use these to compose for orchestras. -- or Sibelius.

:27:09. > :27:12.Sometimes you want to blend the two. I find myself doing that more and

:27:13. > :27:20.more. It's nice to see something active as well. They used to be a

:27:21. > :27:24.time electronic music, you sit in the audience and listen. There is

:27:25. > :27:28.more to see, people working at it and doing it live, which I think is

:27:29. > :27:31.incredibly exciting and much more involving for the audience. It must

:27:32. > :27:35.be because technology is so incredible now. From the tape you

:27:36. > :27:39.were doing. I dabbled in it a bit. You can do anything with

:27:40. > :27:43.electronics, anything. That's why it's such a good Ten Pieces piece,

:27:44. > :27:48.you are showing young people how kind of cool and orchestra can be. I

:27:49. > :27:52.use that word in the best possible way. You can show the crossover

:27:53. > :27:58.between the two works so well, it's why it's such a good piece for Ten

:27:59. > :28:04.Pieces. From new pieces to a piece that is a modern classic, Tibet's A

:28:05. > :28:35.Child of Our Time. Let's have an excerpt. -- Tippett.

:28:36. > :28:42.A Child of Our Time, shown on BBC for last Sunday. Use one of the five

:28:43. > :28:46.spirituals Tippett included in his setting. I wish I'd been in the

:28:47. > :28:50.hall, it looks tremendous, very moving. How did you prepare yourself

:28:51. > :28:55.to immerse yourself in such a very moving work? Well, you don't need to

:28:56. > :28:59.go very far from reading what's going on in the newspapers these

:29:00. > :29:09.days to make that contextual contact. It was an incredibly tense

:29:10. > :29:13.evening, you can almost tell how engaged audiences are by how quiet

:29:14. > :29:18.they are. There was no coughing, anything like that. It was

:29:19. > :29:26.incredibly intense. In that extraordinary, amazing acoustic, it

:29:27. > :29:31.reverberate even more. You were there, weren't you, Nitin? It was

:29:32. > :29:36.wonderful giving you think you sounded incredible, the whole piece

:29:37. > :29:40.was so moving. I found, it's interesting, originally TS Eliot was

:29:41. > :29:45.going to be writing the libretto and turned it down. It ended up being

:29:46. > :29:48.Tippett writing himself. It's such a powerful libretto. There is one

:29:49. > :29:54.phrase I've got here, described in part two of the piece as corners of

:29:55. > :29:59.the self-righteous. It says, we cannot have them in our empire, they

:30:00. > :30:03.shall not work, nor draw dole. Let them starve in no man's land.

:30:04. > :30:10.Incredibly powerful, still pertinent, still very poignant. What

:30:11. > :30:13.I find is the way Tippett is able to build up tension and use the five

:30:14. > :30:19.spirituals to release the tension, everybody size, like they are almost

:30:20. > :30:25.home. I find that incredibly fantastic to deal with such a

:30:26. > :30:29.horrible subject matter. -- everybody sighs. It adds five points

:30:30. > :30:35.of focus, then carry on with the Yanks to. It was strange seeing that

:30:36. > :30:41.but I thought it was brilliant to have these spirituals, they seemed

:30:42. > :30:46.out of context, but they worked. They had this allegorical power to

:30:47. > :30:51.them. It's interesting Tippett went on to go to New York and studied

:30:52. > :30:55.jazz more, and get into lots of different forms of music later on in

:30:56. > :30:58.life. It was interesting, this felt like something that just worked,

:30:59. > :31:11.that you wouldn't expect to work. If if you take the aria for Ain't

:31:12. > :31:17.Got No Money for Bread. He was influenced by bread. You have to do

:31:18. > :31:22.performance with everybody in the hall singing the spirituals. It

:31:23. > :31:28.wasn't a them and then us as well. The chorus, it's a safety in numbers

:31:29. > :31:31.thing. We will prevail. We are here. That's what the spirituals are

:31:32. > :31:36.about, I think. We will get through the dark side and we'll come

:31:37. > :31:40.through. Despite the world turning, which is one of the texts. Despite

:31:41. > :31:44.the fact that this will happen again. This will happen again. We

:31:45. > :31:49.will prevail. It would be wonderful to do a performance with everybody -

:31:50. > :31:53.maybe one day in the future. It's a good idea much I trust our new

:31:54. > :31:58.Director of the Proms is listening and make a note. You can watch this

:31:59. > :32:11.performance of Child of Our Time on the BBC iPlayer. Last night there

:32:12. > :32:27.was a Prom dedicated to Dudley Boys. Here is a clip from the Dudley Boys

:32:28. > :32:35.-- David Bowie Prom. -- David Bowie. .

:32:36. > :32:52.#, I will be king # And you, you will be Queen

:32:53. > :32:58.# Nothing, nothing can drag them away

:32:59. > :33:06.# We can be heroes # Just for one day... #

:33:07. > :33:14.The Proms own tribute there to the late, David Bowie? He was a hero of

:33:15. > :33:18.yours? The one rock concert I went to was ziggy star dust, what more

:33:19. > :33:22.can I say. I adored him. That is most of my age group. Huge numbers

:33:23. > :33:28.of my age group. It's a perfect tribute to have a Prom about him.

:33:29. > :33:33.Across generations. You are 25, loads of people in your age group

:33:34. > :33:41.love David Bowie too? I came to him quite late. It's a shame. I love his

:33:42. > :33:45.collaborations with Brian. They are dark and powerful. So the time, so

:33:46. > :33:49.unusual. I find it so powerful and so exciting. Yeah, I mean, I

:33:50. > :33:56.wouldn't say that he's on my desk all the time, but he's definitely

:33:57. > :34:00.ticking away in the background. What I love about Bowie every single

:34:01. > :34:05.decade was different. He changed totally. When you're making albums

:34:06. > :34:09.they are like diary entries, they are who you are at the time much you

:34:10. > :34:14.don't go back and fix what you did then. It's who you were, it's pure

:34:15. > :34:19.expression. He was constantly evolving in so many different

:34:20. > :34:25.directions. It's very difficult to say exactly who Bowie was. I was

:34:26. > :34:30.lucky recently to be in the company of his producer, Tony, he told me a

:34:31. > :34:38.lot about the passion and the feeling of Bowie for his work, but

:34:39. > :34:43.also the fact, with his last album, it wasn't a requiem as many people

:34:44. > :34:46.thought he believe he was going to be making another album later on. It

:34:47. > :34:53.was sad it turned out to be his last. You can be a hero for one day

:34:54. > :35:01.are or even longer, by viewing the Proms tribute to Davided Bowie on

:35:02. > :35:04.the Prom website or iPlayer. There are concerts shown on BBC Four on

:35:05. > :35:11.Fridays and Sundays evening and every Prom goes out live on BBC

:35:12. > :35:19.Radio 3. Join us next week when we will look at the David Bowie

:35:20. > :35:24.problem. We will have Mahler and Romeo and Juliet. You bring the

:35:25. > :35:30.popcorn, we'll bring the ice-cream. Thank you to my guests tonight. Good

:35:31. > :35:46.luck and I hope the rehearsals go well. We talked about new music.

:35:47. > :35:51.Oliver Coates is one of these, here he is performing a piece of his own

:35:52. > :35:53.work. Goodbye.