Episode 5

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:00:00. > :00:00.It's all about stage and screen tonight as we make

:00:00. > :00:08.merry with Shakespeare, wax lyrical with Gershwin,

:00:09. > :00:11.and find out how this viola had us in pieces.

:00:12. > :00:41.It could only be the curtain raising Proms Extra.

:00:42. > :00:46.If the Proms is the stirring string section,

:00:47. > :01:13.And this week there's a lot to listen to.

:01:14. > :01:18.# What's new # That's fine

:01:19. > :01:23.# Nice weather we are having. # I have taken my umbrella so of

:01:24. > :01:26.course it doesn't rain # How's the wife?

:01:27. > :02:08.# Got to run Now Proms Extra loves

:02:09. > :02:13.a guest or three joining us And our first guest

:02:14. > :02:16.hasn't been that busy since his last appearance

:02:17. > :02:18.on Proms Extra. All he's been doing

:02:19. > :02:20.is writing a children's opera for the Royal Opera House

:02:21. > :02:23.and working on a piece for Sir Simon That is nothing to be

:02:24. > :02:26.excited about is it. Our next guest is busy directing

:02:27. > :02:40.operas but perhaps she is better She has thrilled audiences

:02:41. > :02:43.on stage and screen, due to her acclaimed work

:02:44. > :02:47.with the Royal Shakespeare Company and the National Theatre,

:02:48. > :02:49.and appearing in films such as the Harry Potter blockbusters

:02:50. > :02:51.and our personal favourite, Our final guest is the founder

:02:52. > :03:00.and Principal Conductor of one of the most exciting and adventurous

:03:01. > :03:03.orchestras to grace the Proms. I'm talking about the Aurora

:03:04. > :03:05.Orchestra who have made a name for themselves more recently

:03:06. > :03:07.for performing works by memory. We won't forget which ones they've

:03:08. > :03:10.done, they were stunning. It's hello to conductor

:03:11. > :03:13.Nicholas Collon. And performing at the end

:03:14. > :03:17.of the show is the London Symphony Orchestra's principal

:03:18. > :03:26.trombonist, Peter Moore. Welcome to all of you. How is that

:03:27. > :03:31.Sir Simon Rattle piece going? It's done. Are you pleased with it? Think

:03:32. > :03:39.so. We had a run through with the orchestra. I used to do with the

:03:40. > :03:46.CBSO, it was like going back to old times. Sglt can you give us a clue?

:03:47. > :03:51.It's in memory of a jazz guitarist whose son died. It's a memorial for

:03:52. > :03:56.a friend. I have been doing a few memorials, as you get older, people

:03:57. > :04:00.dying, but friends and so, it's quite a mournful piece in a way but

:04:01. > :04:04.there are happy bits. A great pleasure to be working with your old

:04:05. > :04:09.friend. Absolutely, it's fantastic. Fiona, you are doing another opera,

:04:10. > :04:13.I understand, what is in store this time? Next year for the Wexford

:04:14. > :04:17.Festival, I have always been a fan of the Wexford Festival and hardly

:04:18. > :04:21.get to it. It will be nice to land there. Tremendous. Nick, you are

:04:22. > :04:24.always busy. The Aurora Orchestra seem to be everywhere, highlights

:04:25. > :04:28.you are looking forward to? You can't be at the Proms, we were here

:04:29. > :04:32.last week at the Albert Hall which was thrilling for us. Doesn't get

:04:33. > :04:35.better than playing in the Albert Hall in the Proms season. It looked

:04:36. > :04:40.as if you were enjoying yourself. We had a good time. You always do. I am

:04:41. > :04:42.looking forward to hearing your conversation. Do get stuck in. We

:04:43. > :04:45.love that here. Let's start our musical journey

:04:46. > :04:48.from where we left off last week, when Proms Extra got the opportunity

:04:49. > :04:51.to be inside the Royal Albert Hall, to witness all of the preparation

:04:52. > :04:54.that went into the Gershwin Gala Prom as performed by

:04:55. > :04:56.John Wilson and his orchestra. As sure as night follows day,

:04:57. > :05:00.it seems hard to imagine a BBC Proms season without a visit

:05:01. > :05:02.by the John Wilson Orchestra, showing off what they do best -

:05:03. > :05:04.nostalgia, opulence, melodies. And here's a reminder

:05:05. > :05:07.of what the man himself had to say last week to Proms Extra

:05:08. > :05:19.about the relationship We have been learning together for

:05:20. > :05:26.20-odd years now. I learn from them. I try and guide them to the vision I

:05:27. > :05:58.have of the music and it's very much a collaboration.

:05:59. > :06:04.A blast of Gershwin from the John Wilson Orchestra which went out last

:06:05. > :06:09.Saturday. What is it about Gershwin that makes everybody feel warm and

:06:10. > :06:15.fuzzy and sway from side to side? I don't sway, well, I do sometimes, I

:06:16. > :06:18.think it's to do with the incredible melodic invex. The tunes are so

:06:19. > :06:25.great. This evening was full of every tune. Some lesser known tunes

:06:26. > :06:29.there, but tunes... There was an interesting repertoire. Some things

:06:30. > :06:35.I didn't know so well. Gershwin is a great composer, it's not just the

:06:36. > :06:44.tunes, but the harmonies are wonderful. I love things like Borgie

:06:45. > :06:48.and Bess. I grew up watching American in Paris, there is a

:06:49. > :06:52.generosity of spirit. But MEP ran, the tunes stick with you -- but

:06:53. > :06:57.memorable, as well. The tunes stick with you. He is a great composer,

:06:58. > :07:06.not just a great popular composer, but there is all these great

:07:07. > :07:10.composers, certainly great lyricists and composers, but for me Gershwin

:07:11. > :07:15.transsends it. I just feel he is one of the great 20th century composers.

:07:16. > :07:21.Nick, you enjoyed this Prom, as well. You conducted Rhapsody in Blue

:07:22. > :07:25.recently. I conduct a lot of Gershwin, it's thrilling to do. This

:07:26. > :07:29.was an amazing Prom night and it always is and the orchestra is

:07:30. > :07:33.phenomenal. It really is. The standard of the players is

:07:34. > :07:37.extraordinary and what John does with them is also so beautifully

:07:38. > :07:40.crafted, the whole programme and the way they play is authentic and

:07:41. > :07:44.exuberant. How would you describe that Hollywood sound he gets out of

:07:45. > :07:49.them, how does he achieve that? I think first it has to be said with

:07:50. > :07:54.real good players you can't do it with anything else. Matt on the

:07:55. > :07:57.drums, he is the best there is at that kind of music and Mike on the

:07:58. > :08:00.trumpet, it's phenomenal playing and through the orchestra you find there

:08:01. > :08:06.is such a strength and depth but also I am sure a lot comes from John

:08:07. > :08:09.and his way of imparting a sense of the style and the sound and the

:08:10. > :08:14.strings and the way you slide around and the woodwind. It's hard to do.

:08:15. > :08:17.It's really hard. Physically it's difficult to jump around at the

:08:18. > :08:23.music of Gershwin and make it tidy, as well. Fiona, when you hear

:08:24. > :08:29.Gershwin does it make you think next time I will do a musical on

:08:30. > :08:33.Broadway? He maps the optimism of America on to everything. It's very

:08:34. > :08:37.- you hear it in London, it's sort of it's slightly like it's in

:08:38. > :08:41.translation because we are not America so it's wonderful this John

:08:42. > :08:47.Wilson Orchestra can bring us this - you can see New York in every sound.

:08:48. > :08:51.Did it work for you? It does work. Sometimes I feel it's telling me

:08:52. > :08:55.what to feel even though I am not feeling it, OK, I am feeling it! It

:08:56. > :08:59.injects you with feeling. Is it the sort of music you would listen to at

:09:00. > :09:04.home? Probably not, what it does it almost tells me too much. I think

:09:05. > :09:10.leave some room for me! But it's just genius and I agree, I think

:09:11. > :09:13.Borgie and Bess is one of the greatest pieces ever written. I

:09:14. > :09:18.don't think we heard anything from that on the night. He is finding

:09:19. > :09:22.things and I have known John for a long time and through my friend

:09:23. > :09:27.Richard, that's how I met John, I have known him before he had this

:09:28. > :09:33.career and the orchestra and so I know his passion for this music and

:09:34. > :09:39.he just finds these long lost things and reconstructs them. You can't

:09:40. > :09:44.imagine how hard it is to do, to have people rearranging but also -

:09:45. > :09:48.finding music and being able to reconstruct it, that's the word I

:09:49. > :09:53.was looking for. I have never seen a string orchestra looking so happy.

:09:54. > :09:57.Seriously. I am not saying string orchestras are miserable, I will get

:09:58. > :10:00.in trouble for that, they look like they're having a great time. I think

:10:01. > :10:06.they're enjoying the sound from behind them, as well. They're all

:10:07. > :10:10.smiling. Little clips of the front, behind the singers, reacting to the

:10:11. > :10:14.music. You don't see that often. That's what John has got this

:10:15. > :10:18.ability to - this passion he has across the orchestra and across to

:10:19. > :10:23.the audience and that's rare. It's a lot of combination of things, of

:10:24. > :10:32.some magic really. It's interesting. Real. And it's there. We shouldn't

:10:33. > :10:36.forget brother Ira and his lyrics. The gift of rhyme and wit and you

:10:37. > :10:41.feel a cocktail has to appear at every moment. It's the wit of gin

:10:42. > :10:47.and vodka. It's genius. I notice at the end of the concert the other

:10:48. > :10:52.night the joy with which they - they got applause, they were relieved, so

:10:53. > :11:01.you feel it's hard to do. Who would the Gershwins of today be, are there

:11:02. > :11:05.any? Xoezing wise? Well, I sit on the sofa with one. In terms of

:11:06. > :11:17.finding... Sometimes it's followed on. Terms of the pop la sdiet gists

:11:18. > :11:24.it's hard to know. It's such a different audience that we play to

:11:25. > :11:29.and a different culture behind it. Beyonce is trying to be, the mad

:11:30. > :11:35.lyrics, the conversation lyrics turned from obscenity to poetry.

:11:36. > :11:39.Somebody who died recently, David Bowie. You can't underestimate what

:11:40. > :11:42.the great tunes he wrote, they were very special. Do you think they'll

:11:43. > :11:48.last? I think they will, absolutely, I do. I really do. Interesting.

:11:49. > :11:56.Fascinating. Good to have you here. That's why we invite you

:11:57. > :11:59.If you go on to the BBC iPlayer you can relive the magic

:12:00. > :12:01.of the Gershwin Prom for another three weeks,

:12:02. > :12:03.and take my, and Gershwinos, word for it, S'Wonderful.

:12:04. > :12:05.From a little light music to a romantic concerto, aka

:12:06. > :12:07.Rachmaninov's Third Piano Concerto aka Rach 3,

:12:08. > :12:09.as performed here by Behzod Abduraimov, making his Proms

:12:10. > :12:42.Rachmaninov's Third Concerto performed there

:12:43. > :12:44.by Behzod Abduraimov, with the Munich Philharmonic

:12:45. > :12:50.Orchestra conducted by Valery Gergiev.

:12:51. > :12:57.That's not easy to play, is it? No, almost impossible, he is

:12:58. > :13:01.extraordinary. He not only has the technical ability but he can do the

:13:02. > :13:05.lyricism, as well. You know, I can just about play the opening, I think

:13:06. > :13:10.at a push but after that it's extraordinary. Again it's like

:13:11. > :13:16.Gershwin in a sense this music is so generous. There is a generosity and

:13:17. > :13:19.melodic invention again. People don't like tunes like that any more,

:13:20. > :13:25.and he really has this incredible passionate way. The pianist, I

:13:26. > :13:28.didn't know anything about him, the first time I encountered him and he

:13:29. > :13:39.is extraordinary. Won't be the last time I am sure. He is amazing. This

:13:40. > :13:43.piece is known to be virtuoticically difficult to play. It was featured

:13:44. > :13:47.in the movie Shine. Have you conducted this? Never done it. I

:13:48. > :13:53.have done two of the other three. Yeah, a lot of pianists find it

:13:54. > :13:58.almost beyond them. It's incredibly difficult but he gave them the most

:13:59. > :14:02.astonishing performance actually. It felt completely - well, it was

:14:03. > :14:05.flawless for a start. Technically flawless. But so much physical power

:14:06. > :14:12.there, as well that came from his whole body. He played beautifully

:14:13. > :14:15.with his body, so in control. Beautiful posture of his hands. And

:14:16. > :14:21.exactly as Mark said there was poetry at the same time as all the

:14:22. > :14:26.virtuosty. He was outstanding. He is not that old. He is 25, I think.

:14:27. > :14:29.Something like that. He is not a kid but it does beg the question is

:14:30. > :14:32.there an age at which you shouldn't be approaching a work like that, do

:14:33. > :14:37.you think? He seems to understand there is a kind of nervous breakdown

:14:38. > :14:41.in that music. A kind of imminence or hysteria that's being kept in

:14:42. > :14:45.control with the speed and the control of it. Why a 25-year-old can

:14:46. > :14:50.really tune into that is just phenomenal. He understands it

:14:51. > :14:56.fundamentally. Is it your kind of music? So much. Everything we ever

:14:57. > :15:02.drank beer to and went... But you can hear shades of that in this.

:15:03. > :15:10.This seems almost a more advanced piece of works, we were talking

:15:11. > :15:14.about the fact that Rachmaninov lived in America and had these

:15:15. > :15:16.strange neighbours, maybe not necessarily friends with each other.

:15:17. > :15:20.All they are living next to each other in Los Angeles and not

:15:21. > :15:26.speaking. Yeah, very much my kind of music.

:15:27. > :15:35.It's romanticism meets the 20th century. So it's perfect.

:15:36. > :15:49.Let's just talk about the maestro. He has been a great presents. You

:15:50. > :15:54.never quite know what you are going to see. There is a quality of

:15:55. > :16:00.improvisation about the way he conducts, which is really

:16:01. > :16:05.interesting. That can create some very unprecedented and exciting

:16:06. > :16:08.performances. I have spoken to a lot of musicians about being conducted

:16:09. > :16:18.by him and they do not know what is coming next. He conducts with a

:16:19. > :16:31.toothpick, doesn't he? A very small bat on. I think he just wants real

:16:32. > :16:38.control in his hands. Is it to make people look very closely at him?

:16:39. > :16:44.With a conductor like that, he does not want such a large appendage. He

:16:45. > :16:50.wants it to be tight and small. I can understand that. I met him in

:16:51. > :16:59.New York. He came very late to rehearsal. He said, I will do

:17:00. > :17:08.something. We have been here for weeks practising. We will see. How

:17:09. > :17:14.did the cast respond to that? They knew him. A lot of them are Russians

:17:15. > :17:20.and they all knew him. They came with him. He's sort of bread them.

:17:21. > :17:22.He has sent them off into the world, where they have been ever since. He

:17:23. > :17:33.is a giant among men. Fascinating. Staying with the piano,

:17:34. > :17:35.and the same orchestra. It's time to cause some ripples,

:17:36. > :17:38.courtesy of our keyboard cavalier David Owen Norris

:17:39. > :17:51.and his Chord of the Week. The rose thereupon smacked cord from

:17:52. > :17:59.Strauss's Opera, it is the shimmer of the Silver Rose. The young lad is

:18:00. > :18:05.just a messenger to safely. It is not his Silver Rose but they fall in

:18:06. > :18:13.love. Our cord of the week is like a pebble dropped into a pool to make

:18:14. > :18:19.three shimmering ripples that make a chain of chords giving an impression

:18:20. > :18:26.of giving love at first sight. The first is a major chord, the second,

:18:27. > :18:36.a minor chord, and the third is major again. Major, minor and major

:18:37. > :18:43.again. What is going on with those changing chords? I think it is the

:18:44. > :18:46.eyes of the lovers. The eyes meet and drop. They look up again. Deep

:18:47. > :18:56.into each other's eyes. And you can see and hear that

:18:57. > :19:09.lovely piece straight I have to tell you there are just

:19:10. > :19:22.two more weeks of David Fiona, I have got a question for

:19:23. > :19:27.you. Do you play an instrument? I used to play the cello. I dare not

:19:28. > :19:35.say that in this company. I used to though the cello and go to lessons.

:19:36. > :19:39.Did you play in an orchestra? I did continue to learn through my school

:19:40. > :19:47.days I've played with my family. My brother played with loot and the

:19:48. > :19:55.other the violin. It was tortuous. -- the flute. My older brother is a

:19:56. > :19:58.very good pianist. We will have to get you inspired again.

:19:59. > :20:01.Here are some people who have taken our advice and had a go

:20:02. > :20:34.MUSIC: Toreador from Carmen by Bizet.

:20:35. > :20:38.If you want to be a part of the BBC Virtual Orchestra and be a part

:20:39. > :20:41.of the BBC Last Night of the Proms celebrations then crack on.

:20:42. > :20:43.You have until midnight next Saturday to get your uploads in.

:20:44. > :20:47.Talking of playing, we have a performance still to come

:20:48. > :20:50.by the London Symphony Orchestra's principal trombonist, Peter Moore.

:20:51. > :20:53.Plus we'll be delving into the Proms At concert,

:20:54. > :20:57.which was at the Sam Wanamaker's Playhouse at Shakespeare's Globe.

:20:58. > :20:59.But now as regular viewers know, Proms Extra likes to get under

:21:00. > :21:03.the skin of the people involved with this classical music festival.

:21:04. > :21:05.Here's the dramatic story of one orchestral player and her very

:21:06. > :21:17.traumatic breakup with her first love.

:21:18. > :21:27.I had had my violin since I was 16. I got my first job, through college,

:21:28. > :21:33.through everything. It was about three years ago I had a bit of an

:21:34. > :21:38.accident and I slipped with my Violette in its case. It was a

:21:39. > :21:42.couple of minutes later I opened the case. I presumed it would be OK. I

:21:43. > :21:45.did not think there would be a problem and that is when the horror

:21:46. > :21:58.of what had happened set in. What to me looked like smashed rosin were

:21:59. > :22:09.splinters of wood. It was beyond repair and a write-off. A real shock

:22:10. > :22:16.will stop it was pretty awful. So, once the reality of what happened

:22:17. > :22:21.had set in, I realised I don't have a viola, I can't earn a living

:22:22. > :22:27.without my viola. So, I had to kind of get on with finding a replacement

:22:28. > :22:31.pretty quickly. Every viola is a different size. Playing someone

:22:32. > :22:38.else's the stops are different and the sounds are different and it is a

:22:39. > :22:42.challenge within itself. A rosin is not standardised. Originally they

:22:43. > :22:47.used to be to the size of the smaller altos more sweet and a

:22:48. > :22:52.larger more basic. -- a viola. It takes quite a while for me to make

:22:53. > :22:56.one get very involved in it. About three months is what you normally

:22:57. > :23:04.look at it is nice to know the person who will be playing the

:23:05. > :23:10.instrument when it is done. I must have tried 20, 30, 40 probably. I

:23:11. > :23:18.was at a dealer's. A guy said, what about this? It is too big for you.

:23:19. > :23:22.It was 17 inches, absolutely enormous. I convinced myself it

:23:23. > :23:35.would be fine. I just loved the sound. For me, it was different to

:23:36. > :23:41.anything else I tried. I took it to the Halle, to rehearsals, and I

:23:42. > :23:46.could not play it. She liked the instrument and was very tempted to

:23:47. > :23:53.go for the large size. To make it seem more sensible, she came down

:23:54. > :23:56.just a touch. It would not really change the sound too much. Now she

:23:57. > :24:08.has an instrument which bits her very well. That is because it's her.

:24:09. > :24:18.-- an instrument which fits her very well. You are always trying to make

:24:19. > :24:22.sure you are commissioning something which is among campaign. If the

:24:23. > :24:29.player has a small and, I can make the neck slightly slimmer so it is

:24:30. > :24:31.not bulky. I would say, if you're happy with the sound, leave it like

:24:32. > :24:45.that. I really like that. That sounds

:24:46. > :24:49.better. My fear all along would be, will I ever find anything to replace

:24:50. > :24:54.my viola? It is amazing I found something I completely loved and it

:24:55. > :24:56.was so clear cut that it was definitely the right viola. That was

:24:57. > :25:12.a fantastic feeling actually. When I get to see an instrument

:25:13. > :25:18.being played, six months, a year later, that is fantastic. That is

:25:19. > :25:20.all right. If you are enthusiastic about it as well, that is even

:25:21. > :25:36.better. Here is the original viola. At very

:25:37. > :25:41.sorry sight. That must break your heart. My viola is safely locked

:25:42. > :25:46.inside its case. I have broken the zip so it will be safe for a long

:25:47. > :25:56.time. A tragic sight. Has anything like that ever happened to you? My

:25:57. > :26:03.batons break frequently. If there are any good baton makers out there,

:26:04. > :26:07.perhaps you can tell me. There is a joint between the Long white bit and

:26:08. > :26:11.the bit you hold. Because there was a bit of pressure put on the baton

:26:12. > :26:17.sometimes, I do a big gesture and half of it would fly up really quite

:26:18. > :26:20.far, 40 metres up in the air and land somewhere in the audience.

:26:21. > :26:28.Happens twice a year and I never know when it will happen. It is

:26:29. > :26:35.quite a perilous activity. Do the eyes of the audience followed the

:26:36. > :26:38.baton? I had it at the concert in Germany and the whole of the

:26:39. > :26:43.audience followed it. I could not believe it. I would quite like to

:26:44. > :26:51.deliver a leap break a flute that are used to play. Some people also

:26:52. > :26:55.say, a lot of musicians are saying, it is only a viola. Starting on the

:26:56. > :27:00.viola jokes. I love viola. Now, the Proms concerts

:27:01. > :27:01.are synonymous with As a new departure, David Pickard,

:27:02. > :27:05.the new Director of the Proms came up with the idea of Proms At?taking

:27:06. > :27:08.specific pieces to four very special Last week it was Shakespeare

:27:09. > :27:15.infused repertoire playing in the Sam Wanamaker Playhouse

:27:16. > :27:17.at Shakespeare's Globe. An excerpt of the Proms At concert

:27:18. > :28:14.from the Sam Wanamaker Playhouse, Where you transported back to the

:28:15. > :28:22.17th century? I was. I was in a Hogarth cartoon. They became

:28:23. > :28:27.two-dimensional cutouts. You get a feeling for it. The blend of voices

:28:28. > :28:31.that close, you can see the recorders. It was just enchanting.

:28:32. > :28:38.Changing the recorders. You really are on top of them. You see the

:28:39. > :28:42.conductor with such grace and intensity close up. They are all

:28:43. > :28:46.enjoying themselves and we are part of it. It is really the most

:28:47. > :28:52.extraordinary experience of architecture and music. It is a

:28:53. > :28:57.jewel-like playhouse, isn't it? Atmospheric to the end. There was

:28:58. > :29:02.something very modern about the concert. I felt I was at a jamming

:29:03. > :29:09.session of the 17th century. Somehow this music had an immediacy and in a

:29:10. > :29:13.place of that size. It would be terribly difficult to do that in the

:29:14. > :29:20.Albert Hall. We were all listening to new music, it felt like, for the

:29:21. > :29:27.first time. And music so integral to the works of Shakespeare. More of an

:29:28. > :29:30.inspired by concert. Once the theatres did reopen, there was a

:29:31. > :29:39.kind of cavalier attitude to Shakespeare. They were saying, let's

:29:40. > :29:46.put these words in. Bits of it have been adapted. And on has taken a

:29:47. > :29:53.lot. What is exciting is you see people experimenting. There are two

:29:54. > :30:01.men singing, one to the other. One had red cheeks and red lips,

:30:02. > :30:12.replying, he will not kiss the baritone. You feel, is this a man or

:30:13. > :30:16.a woman or a man and a man? You think this music is very up to the

:30:17. > :30:25.moment. The music seems very formal but it is exploring the an Arctic --

:30:26. > :30:30.anarchic feeling. Is that something which you mind?

:30:31. > :30:38.I am aware of the composers who have been influenced. I am intimidated by

:30:39. > :30:41.it in a way. Because I think it's such incredible verse that the

:30:42. > :30:52.richness is almost - it's hard to set. Britain set it beautifully. And

:30:53. > :30:55.of course in Mid summer Night's Dream which is wonderful. He is able

:30:56. > :31:00.to make the text into something. That takes skill. I have shied away

:31:01. > :31:04.from it because technically it's hard to do. I wouldn't - I would

:31:05. > :31:07.love to do, I have done little, if any, theatre music so I think that

:31:08. > :31:17.would be a great challenge. That may and start to do music to a

:31:18. > :31:24.Shakespeare play. I feel we are all here for you! Come on, Mark. How

:31:25. > :31:28.about the idea of taking music such as you heard in the Playhouse into a

:31:29. > :31:33.specific venue, did that work for you, did it add to the experience?

:31:34. > :31:37.It's marvellous, it's wonderful to have music in surprising situations.

:31:38. > :31:46.It just releases the music into our time. The more of that, the merrier.

:31:47. > :31:50.I think it's a wonderful idea. The Sam Wanamaker Playhouse is suited to

:31:51. > :31:53.that music but it could be somewhere that is a counterpoint, anywhere,

:31:54. > :31:58.car parks, the more the better. Which we have coming up. Tell us

:31:59. > :32:00.what you were doing with the Aurora recently, you staged a flash Prom.

:32:01. > :32:10.It was the day before our Prom. It's an idea we have done of taking

:32:11. > :32:15.it out to people that wouldn't normally perhaps go to a concert,

:32:16. > :32:19.best place to do that is a shopping centre. As luck would have it we can

:32:20. > :32:52.show you a little of that experience right now.

:32:53. > :32:59.You must love seeing some of the reactions you got there. It's quite

:33:00. > :33:01.odd, one of the players said to me afterwards it's hard to play when

:33:02. > :33:06.you are constantly being reminded there is a 70% discount in one of

:33:07. > :33:09.the shops. You have to get is there straight after! Are you a great

:33:10. > :33:14.believer in breaking down boundaries and taking music out to odd places?

:33:15. > :33:18.I do. Talking about venues, to go to galleries, I have seen a lot of

:33:19. > :33:24.successful concerts in galleries which is not necessarily a normal

:33:25. > :33:29.venue. You have to tailor the size of a piece. You need to do it in

:33:30. > :33:36.these venues. Sometimes it can be off-putting but on the whole - I had

:33:37. > :33:42.a piece played in Birmingham years ago in the Bullring. We did a tour

:33:43. > :33:47.of shopping centres. It was a long time ago, we were quite pioneering.

:33:48. > :33:50.It was the same thing where you see people's reactions. And they have no

:33:51. > :33:57.choice. That's what is great about it. Poor things! But you are going

:33:58. > :34:04.to hear it! I wonder did you see faces from the crowd? I recognised a

:34:05. > :34:06.few. It works! That's very good. There was a Proms at earlier today

:34:07. > :34:11.at the Roundhouse. And the final one that a lot

:34:12. > :34:14.of people are getting excited about is the Bold Tendencies Multi

:34:15. > :34:17.Story Car Park Prom in Peckham. Now next week the Proms returns

:34:18. > :34:22.to BBC Four with a concert every On Thursday we have the Halle

:34:23. > :34:25.conducted by Sir Mark Elder, or Smark as we call him

:34:26. > :34:27.on Proms Extra. Let's see the elder statesman in

:34:28. > :34:50.action. The Halle there under

:34:51. > :34:52.the watchful eye of Smark, on your screens next Thursday

:34:53. > :34:56.on BBC Four. And the following night you can see

:34:57. > :34:58.on the same channel, the Aurora Orchestra,

:34:59. > :35:00.conducted by Nick Collon, performing Mozart's Jupiter from memory,

:35:01. > :35:03.which Proms Extra saw and loved. Proms Extra and I will be back next

:35:04. > :35:07.week with more guests, a performance by members

:35:08. > :35:10.of the Para Orchestra plus we'll be taking a look at Grieg,

:35:11. > :35:12.a Brazilian Late Night Concert I'd like to thank my guests,

:35:13. > :35:16.Mark-Anthony Turnage Fiona I'll leave you with a performance

:35:17. > :35:27.by a young man who in 2008 was the youngest person at the age

:35:28. > :35:30.of 12 to win BBC Young Musician. Since then he has become

:35:31. > :35:32.the principal trombonist Accompanied by the pianist,

:35:33. > :35:36.Richard Uttley, performing the classic jazz standard

:35:37. > :35:39.written by Erroll Garner,