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0:00:00 > 0:00:03- Welcome to a programme - looking back...
0:00:03 > 0:00:05- ..at interviews from this series.
0:00:06 > 0:00:08- Welcome to Dechrau Canu, - Dechrau Canmol.
0:00:09 > 0:00:11- Subtitles
0:00:11 > 0:00:14- # Soli Deo gloria
0:00:15 > 0:00:19- # Soli Deo gloria
0:00:23 > 0:00:27- # Soli Deo gloria #
0:00:40 > 0:00:44- In this programme, - Alwyn goes back to Sunday School.
0:00:45 > 0:00:48- We meet a lively character - from Ruthin...
0:00:49 > 0:00:54- ..and a cricketer who is also - a deacon at Capel y Cysegr, Bethel.
0:00:55 > 0:00:58- Our first hymn - comes from Capel Mair, Cardigan.
0:00:58 > 0:01:03- This is Iesu Cyfaill F' Enaid I, - sung to the hymn tune Aberystwyth.
0:04:40 > 0:04:44- When we recorded the programme - in Capel Seion, Llanrwst...
0:04:45 > 0:04:48- ..Alwyn Humphreys - went back to Sunday School...
0:04:48 > 0:04:51- ..in the company of - teacher Gwenda Jones.
0:04:51 > 0:04:52- Who is this?
0:04:53 > 0:04:55- Who is it?
0:04:55 > 0:04:56- Who is it?- - Jesus.
0:04:57 > 0:05:00- Jesus, OK. We'll forget about - this person for now.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04- This is obviously - a lively Sunday School.
0:05:04 > 0:05:07- Your teaching experience - must be a great help.
0:05:08 > 0:05:11- Actually, - I was a secondary school teacher...
0:05:11 > 0:05:16- ..but I raised five children so - I'm used to dealing with children.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18- I like working with children.
0:05:19 > 0:05:23- How difficult is it to maintain the - interest of children at this age?
0:05:24 > 0:05:28- They need a variety of activities - including stories and puzzles.
0:05:29 > 0:05:34- We act, sing, and do handicrafts.
0:05:34 > 0:05:38- Sometimes we have a change and - do colouring. They like colouring.
0:05:39 > 0:05:43- We have a cuppa and a biscuit at the - end, for the children and mothers.
0:05:44 > 0:05:46- That always goes down well.
0:05:46 > 0:05:49- The support of the parents - must be important.
0:05:49 > 0:05:51- They are fantastic.
0:05:52 > 0:05:54- They support us 100%.
0:05:55 > 0:05:58- We also have Messy Church - every so often.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00- They attend that and it's great.
0:06:01 > 0:06:04- What about the youth club you run...
0:06:04 > 0:06:07- ..for children between - the ages of 11 and 14?
0:06:07 > 0:06:12- Most of them don't go to church. - Some attend other churches.
0:06:12 > 0:06:16- Although many of them do not attend - chapels or churches...
0:06:16 > 0:06:20- ..they like to come - here on two Sundays every month.
0:06:20 > 0:06:22- We play games.
0:06:22 > 0:06:27- The minister asks for five minutes - of quiet for everyone to ponder.
0:06:27 > 0:06:31- We discuss Jesus - and share experiences and stories.
0:06:32 > 0:06:35- They always listen intently.
0:06:36 > 0:06:38- At the end we share a meal.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42- I cook for them with help - from some of them or somebody else.
0:06:42 > 0:06:44- They enjoy it.
0:06:45 > 0:06:48- You've retired from teaching. - You don't have to do this.
0:06:49 > 0:06:50- What pleasure does it give you?
0:06:50 > 0:06:51- What pleasure does it give you?- - I really enjoy it.
0:06:51 > 0:06:55- I missed working with secondary - school children.
0:06:55 > 0:06:57- I was a biology teacher.
0:06:59 > 0:07:01- I taught in Sunday School - before that.
0:07:01 > 0:07:04- I was at the Sunday School - in Heol Scotland...
0:07:04 > 0:07:07- ..with good old-fashioned teachers.
0:07:07 > 0:07:09- There wasn't much colouring-in...
0:07:09 > 0:07:12- ..just picture books - with Jesus in a boat.
0:07:12 > 0:07:15- We're all familiar - with those pictures.
0:07:15 > 0:07:18- For years we couldn't hang pictures - on the chapel walls...
0:07:19 > 0:07:21- ..but now we can put up pictures.
0:07:21 > 0:07:24- We have work the children - have done for the cymanfa.
0:07:24 > 0:07:26- We make it as colourful as we can.
0:07:27 > 0:07:30- We can decorate this room - as we like, which is great.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32- Thank you, Gwenda.
0:09:43 > 0:09:45- In Ruthin...
0:09:45 > 0:09:49- ..we met one of Capel Bethania's - oldest members, Mary Williams.
0:09:49 > 0:09:51- She's a bit of a character.
0:09:52 > 0:09:56- How long have you been a member? - Were you baptized in the chapel?
0:09:56 > 0:09:58- Yes, that's right.
0:09:59 > 0:10:01- I'm 93 years old.
0:10:02 > 0:10:03- Yes.
0:10:04 > 0:10:07- I must say that everything - of any significance...
0:10:07 > 0:10:10- ..has happened to me - within the chapel walls.
0:10:12 > 0:10:16- I was able to earn - my living near my home...
0:10:16 > 0:10:18- ..before and after I got married...
0:10:18 > 0:10:20- ..so I stayed where I was.
0:10:21 > 0:10:25- What pleasure do you get - from attending Bethania?
0:10:26 > 0:10:30- It did us no harm - to attend services regularly.
0:10:32 > 0:10:36- It did no harm to our children - either.
0:10:38 > 0:10:42- At that time, the whole family - would come to worship.
0:10:44 > 0:10:47- Preachers used to come - from all over the world.
0:10:48 > 0:10:51- Who were the great preachers - at that time?
0:10:52 > 0:10:56- I remember - Reverend Morgan Mainwaring.
0:10:57 > 0:10:58- He came very often.
0:10:59 > 0:11:02- I remember one - who was very old-fashioned...
0:11:03 > 0:11:06- ..Eliseus Howells - - do you remember the name?
0:11:06 > 0:11:07- No, I don't.
0:11:09 > 0:11:13- They would come for - a Good Friday preaching festival.
0:11:13 > 0:11:17- It did us no harm to go - and listen to these people.
0:11:18 > 0:11:20- They truly lifted you - to the heavens.
0:11:22 > 0:11:27- I think that every pulpit in Wales - is sacred.
0:11:27 > 0:11:31- Great truths - have been heard from them.
0:11:32 > 0:11:36- Between Sundays, it's surprising - how often one has the chance...
0:11:36 > 0:11:38- ..to discuss religious matters.
0:11:39 > 0:11:43- The general opinion amongst - the Welsh and the English...
0:11:43 > 0:11:44- ..is that we need...
0:11:45 > 0:11:49- ..an outpouring of the holy spirit - over the nation...
0:11:49 > 0:11:54- ..and possibly over the whole world, - the way things are going.
0:11:55 > 0:11:59- I'm sure a lot of people have asked - you this question.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02- What is the secret of long life?
0:12:02 > 0:12:04- Live one day at a time...
0:12:05 > 0:12:08- ..and count your blessings.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09- While we were at Capel y Cysegr, - Bethel...
0:15:09 > 0:15:14- ..we had the chance to visit Bangor - Cricket Club to meet a life member.
0:15:17 > 0:15:20- You're a deacon in the chapel...
0:15:20 > 0:15:24- ..but you also spend a lot of your - time here on the cricket field.
0:15:24 > 0:15:28- This is my front garden. - I began as a small child.
0:15:28 > 0:15:32- I played my first game at 12 - and my last game at 57 years old.
0:15:32 > 0:15:36- I played over 1,000 games, - so it's like coming home.
0:15:40 > 0:15:43- You cut the grass here, - which must be a lot of work.
0:15:44 > 0:15:45- Yes, three times a week.
0:15:45 > 0:15:48- That's how often it gets a haircut.
0:15:48 > 0:15:50- I also roll it, - if it's a big game.
0:15:50 > 0:15:54- This is the Lord's of the north, - without a doubt.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56- This is the place.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58- We'd never move from here.
0:15:58 > 0:16:01- You can't take - those mountains with you.
0:16:02 > 0:16:07- Sometimes, I'm on the tractor - in a storm, sometimes in sunshine.
0:16:07 > 0:16:09- But the mountains are always there.
0:16:10 > 0:16:14- It's not unlike faith, - it's somewhere to turn to.
0:16:14 > 0:16:16- I've done it myself.
0:16:16 > 0:16:19- I've often come here by myself...
0:16:19 > 0:16:24- ..when the dark clouds gather, - as they have over recent months.
0:16:24 > 0:16:26- I can be myself here.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29- Me and this place.
0:16:29 > 0:16:33- You had a serious illness of late. - How did you cope with it?
0:16:34 > 0:16:37- To think that it was - my first time in hospital.
0:16:37 > 0:16:41- Having a cancerous tumour - removed at Christie's.
0:16:41 > 0:16:45- It was an atmosphere - where people were truly suffering.
0:16:46 > 0:16:50- But they also pulled together, - with a special faith.
0:16:50 > 0:16:54- People can put their lives - in the hands of others.
0:16:54 > 0:16:56- That's the most significant fact, - I guess.
0:16:57 > 0:17:00- So far, I've enjoyed good health.
0:17:01 > 0:17:02- This place is my therapy.
0:17:02 > 0:17:04- Being here on my own.
0:17:04 > 0:17:09- Sometimes, Alwyn, if you came here - with a hidden microphone...
0:17:09 > 0:17:13- ..you'd hear the hymn tune Rhys - being sung on the tractor.
0:17:15 > 0:17:21- Do you perhaps think of this place - as an extension of your chapel?
0:17:21 > 0:17:22- Yes, it's very similar.
0:17:23 > 0:17:25- I got my first century here.
0:17:25 > 0:17:30- I remember some games here - just as I remember some services.
0:17:30 > 0:17:32- I prepare this place for others.
0:17:32 > 0:17:34- Many Christians do the same.
0:17:34 > 0:17:39- I was honoured, a year ago now, - to be bestowed with life membership.
0:17:39 > 0:17:43- That's what every Christian is - - a life member.
0:17:44 > 0:17:47- You're a chaired and crowned poet.
0:17:47 > 0:17:51- Does the muse strike - when you ride the tractor here?
0:17:52 > 0:17:54- One englyn comes to mind.
0:17:54 > 0:17:58- I wanted to write it - for my grandson, Illtud Gwernydd.
0:17:58 > 0:18:02- Gwernydd is an area of Bethesda - at the foot of the Carneddau.
0:18:02 > 0:18:05- This is what came to me.
0:18:05 > 0:18:08- "Illtud, - you'll always see the slopes
0:18:09 > 0:18:11- "In the sunshine of your years
0:18:11 > 0:18:15- "Roam upon them beyond Gwernydd - and walk freely on the Carneddau."
0:18:16 > 0:18:19- Those slopes face every Christian.
0:18:19 > 0:18:23- We walk those slopes, knowing - that someone's holding our hand.
0:18:23 > 0:18:28- Someday, we'll all see the light - at the top of the mountain.
0:21:25 > 0:21:27- I hope you enjoyed revisiting...
0:21:27 > 0:21:31- ..a few of the characters - we met during the series.
0:21:31 > 0:21:35- We've come to our final hymn, - from Bethania Chapel, Ruthin.
0:21:35 > 0:21:38- To the hymn tune Malvern...
0:21:38 > 0:21:40- "O! Tyred, Arglwydd Mawr
0:21:40 > 0:21:42- "Dihidla o'r nef i lawr
0:21:42 > 0:21:43- "Gawodydd pur"
0:21:44 > 0:21:46- From all of us, goodbye.
0:24:26 > 0:24:28- S4C Subtitles by Testun Cyf.
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