Huw Chiswell

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0:00:03 > 0:00:05- I'm Rhys Meirion.

0:00:05 > 0:00:08- In the coming weeks, - I'll enjoy the company...

0:00:08 > 0:00:12- ..of some of Wales's - most talented singers.

0:00:12 > 0:00:16- I'll travel to all sorts of places, - some further than others.

0:00:16 > 0:00:18- We'll share stories...

0:00:18 > 0:00:22- ..and of course, - there will be plenty of singing.

0:00:22 > 0:00:26- I'll invite the artistes - to the studio to sing duets.

0:00:27 > 0:00:30- We'll have fun - and tackle a few challenges.

0:00:30 > 0:00:33- I'll choose a song - to sing with them...

0:00:33 > 0:00:36- ..and they'll choose - a song to sing with me.

0:00:37 > 0:00:40- Welcome to Deuawdau Rhys Meirion.

0:00:44 > 0:00:46- The valley is close to the heart...

0:00:46 > 0:00:50- ..of the person - I'll sing duets with this week.

0:00:52 > 0:00:55- He asks the same question - over and over again.

0:00:55 > 0:00:57- "Why, why?"

0:00:57 > 0:00:58- # Why? #

0:01:02 > 0:01:07- I've heard him described - as Wales's Billy Joel.

0:01:08 > 0:01:10- If you don't know who he is yet...

0:01:10 > 0:01:15- ..the audience in Caernarfon's Clwb - Canol Dre have a few more clues.

0:01:16 > 0:01:17- The one and only.

0:01:17 > 0:01:18- The one and only.- - The whole package.

0:01:19 > 0:01:20- Legend.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22- Legend.- - The main appeal is the songs.

0:01:23 > 0:01:23- "I Be."

0:01:23 > 0:01:25- "I Be."- - "Nos Sul Yn Baglan Bay."

0:01:25 > 0:01:26- "Y Cwm" is good.

0:01:27 > 0:01:29- Please welcome Mr Huw Chiswell!

0:01:30 > 0:01:34- "Y Cwm", "I Be", - "Nos Sul Yn Baglan Bay"...

0:01:34 > 0:01:38- ..and as a fan said, - it's the one and only Huw Chiswell.

0:01:39 > 0:01:42- # Frank drinks in the bar

0:01:42 > 0:01:44- # He's lost his house and car

0:01:46 > 0:01:47- # Mm mm

0:01:49 > 0:01:52- # He plays a tune on his mouth organ

0:01:52 > 0:01:55- # The fairytale symphony

0:01:56 > 0:01:57- # Mm mm

0:02:00 > 0:02:02- # Oh oh oh

0:02:04 > 0:02:07- # The people in our world #

0:02:10 > 0:02:13- He's easy on the eye. - The music is lovely.

0:02:13 > 0:02:17- No-one can compose - chords like Huw Chiswell.

0:02:17 > 0:02:20- There's something about his voice.

0:02:21 > 0:02:25- Some songs stand out - and linger in the memory.

0:02:26 > 0:02:28- # Mm mm mm #

0:02:35 > 0:02:36- Thanks.

0:02:40 > 0:02:44- Huw, it was great listening to you. - You're on form.

0:02:44 > 0:02:46- You're very kind. Thanks.

0:02:47 > 0:02:52- We haven't sung together and we - don't know if our voices will blend.

0:02:52 > 0:02:54- How do you feel?

0:02:54 > 0:02:56- Slightly apprehensive, of course!

0:02:57 > 0:03:00- I hope to learn something, - most of all.

0:03:01 > 0:03:06- Young people come to see you, but - don't come to see me! I'm envious.

0:03:06 > 0:03:07- LAUGHTER

0:03:08 > 0:03:11- If I sing with you, - young people might come to see me.

0:03:12 > 0:03:13- Who knows?

0:03:29 > 0:03:32- # Cardiff, Cardiff #

0:03:34 > 0:03:36- I'm on my way to Huw's house.

0:03:36 > 0:03:39- I'm looking forward - to seeing him again.

0:03:39 > 0:03:43- As you saw in the gig, - he's very popular.

0:03:43 > 0:03:46- We treasure him in Wales.

0:03:46 > 0:03:48- Everyone knows his songs.

0:03:50 > 0:03:52- Huw, uniquely perhaps...

0:03:53 > 0:03:56- ..is a poet as well as a composer.

0:03:57 > 0:03:59- He sings poetry in his ballads.

0:04:01 > 0:04:05- I'm looking forward - to seeing him in his home...

0:04:06 > 0:04:10- ..but most of all, - to sing two duets with him.

0:04:10 > 0:04:14- # I'm driving back - to the place where I was born #

0:04:16 > 0:04:17- Hello!

0:04:20 > 0:04:22- PIANO IN DISTANCE

0:04:25 > 0:04:27- I hear something upstairs.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29- Maybe he's composing. I'll go up.

0:04:44 > 0:04:45- Hello!

0:04:50 > 0:04:51- Huw!

0:04:52 > 0:04:53- How are you?

0:04:54 > 0:04:56- I'm well. What a fine room.

0:04:56 > 0:04:56- How are you?

0:04:56 > 0:04:57- How are you?- - Fine. You?

0:04:58 > 0:04:59- The door was open.

0:04:59 > 0:05:03- You're always welcome, - if it's open or not.

0:05:05 > 0:05:06- This is your studio.

0:05:06 > 0:05:09- Yes, this is where we'll be.

0:05:11 > 0:05:14- There's an interesting - story behind this instrument.

0:05:15 > 0:05:17- It dates back to the 1970s.

0:05:19 > 0:05:20- Goodness!

0:05:20 > 0:05:23- It's a Yamaha - with a baby grand inside.

0:05:24 > 0:05:26- It's interesting...

0:05:26 > 0:05:30- ..because it's - Cat Stevens's old piano.

0:05:30 > 0:05:31- No!

0:05:31 > 0:05:34- When he converted to Islam...

0:05:35 > 0:05:38- ..he sold all his worldly goods, - including his piano.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41- I was very lucky to get this.

0:05:41 > 0:05:43- Are you composing a new song?

0:05:44 > 0:05:46- I'm working on something.

0:05:47 > 0:05:50- I have an idea - for a new song, "Bwrw Glaw".

0:05:51 > 0:05:53- Do you want to hear a bit?

0:05:54 > 0:05:56- An exclusive preview.

0:06:00 > 0:06:02- # They were talking about the flood

0:06:03 > 0:06:06- # As the rain falls

0:06:08 > 0:06:12- # It was clear, - hearing a report on the hour

0:06:14 > 0:06:16- # There's a flood around us

0:06:17 > 0:06:20- # In sunshine or bad weather

0:06:20 > 0:06:22- # What will you do, brother? #

0:06:25 > 0:06:27- Thank you very much!

0:06:27 > 0:06:28- You're welcome.

0:06:28 > 0:06:32- It's odd to sing it - to someone for the first time.

0:06:33 > 0:06:35- I feel very important!

0:06:36 > 0:06:39- The important news - I wanted to tell Huw...

0:06:40 > 0:06:43- ..was the duet I'd sing with him.

0:06:43 > 0:06:46- The duet I've chosen for you is...

0:06:47 > 0:06:48- "...Gira Con Me".

0:06:48 > 0:06:50- I don't know if you've heard it.

0:06:50 > 0:06:51- I don't know if you've heard it.- - No.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53- It's a Josh Groban song.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56- As the title suggests...

0:06:56 > 0:06:58- ..it's in Italian.

0:06:58 > 0:06:59- In Italian!

0:06:59 > 0:07:01- My second language.

0:07:04 > 0:07:06- RECORDING OF SONG

0:07:06 > 0:07:07- This is the song.

0:07:08 > 0:07:10- "Gira Con Me" is a light opera song.

0:07:11 > 0:07:13- I'm confident Huw can sing it.

0:07:13 > 0:07:16- But he'll need to get - to grips with Italian.

0:07:17 > 0:07:19- # E seguo la luna #

0:07:20 > 0:07:22- It's very natural.

0:07:22 > 0:07:26- You don't need big voice to sing it.

0:07:27 > 0:07:28- Hm.

0:07:29 > 0:07:31- Try the Italian.

0:07:32 > 0:07:35- # Il mondo gira con me - questa notte #

0:07:36 > 0:07:39- # Il mondo gira con me

0:07:40 > 0:07:41- # Il mondo #

0:07:41 > 0:07:43- # Il mondo gira con me #

0:07:44 > 0:07:47- It's just as if - you're singing in Welsh.

0:07:47 > 0:07:51- One of my favourite songs - is "Rhoddion Prin".

0:07:52 > 0:07:54- You sing it like that.

0:07:54 > 0:07:57- # Pull the blanket over your body #

0:07:57 > 0:08:01- It's not an obvious choice, - I must say, but there you are.

0:08:02 > 0:08:03- I love it.

0:08:04 > 0:08:06- Maybe I'm totally wrong.

0:08:06 > 0:08:09- I don't know what - inspired you to compose it.

0:08:09 > 0:08:12- But when I listen to it, - I feel like a parent.

0:08:13 > 0:08:17- People go through hard times. - I've lost my sister and my mother.

0:08:18 > 0:08:22- Very often, children - give us strength to carry on.

0:08:25 > 0:08:29- I'm very glad to hear you - say that about it.

0:08:29 > 0:08:31- The song is a classic.

0:08:31 > 0:08:32- Come on, then.

0:08:32 > 0:08:33- Come on, then.- - What?

0:08:33 > 0:08:34- Come on.

0:08:35 > 0:08:36- Good grief!

0:08:38 > 0:08:39- Let's try it.

0:08:39 > 0:08:41- Help me if I'm stuck!

0:08:49 > 0:08:52- # Pull the blanket over your body

0:08:54 > 0:08:57- # Tuck it under your chin

0:09:00 > 0:09:03- # Sleep tranquilly

0:09:04 > 0:09:08- # Dream with a smile

0:09:10 > 0:09:13- # But more than this

0:09:15 > 0:09:18- # Don't be surprised

0:09:20 > 0:09:25- # If you don't get - what you want every day

0:09:28 > 0:09:30- # Oh

0:09:31 > 0:09:33- # Days like that

0:09:34 > 0:09:38- # Are very rare days #

0:09:38 > 0:09:40- I just about got it!

0:09:41 > 0:09:42- Marvellous.

0:09:55 > 0:09:59- # Come closer to me now

0:10:00 > 0:10:03- # Hold me tightly

0:10:06 > 0:10:08- # I feel the warmth of your heart

0:10:10 > 0:10:13- # Beating in you

0:10:17 > 0:10:19- # I'm lost here

0:10:21 > 0:10:25- # Feeling lower than ever

0:10:26 > 0:10:33- # Thinking that - you're here every day

0:10:37 > 0:10:43- # I have the rarest prize

0:10:47 > 0:10:50- # The prize of prizes

0:10:51 > 0:10:55- # The very rarest prize #

0:11:05 > 0:11:07- Mm.

0:11:07 > 0:11:09- It's a hell of a song!

0:11:10 > 0:11:11- Thanks.

0:11:13 > 0:11:15- I feel quite emotional!

0:11:15 > 0:11:17- It's a hell of a song.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20- Listen to it, everyone!

0:11:21 > 0:11:23- The lyrics, and that last verse.

0:11:25 > 0:11:27- As I said, we've all had hard times.

0:11:28 > 0:11:30- Children get us through.

0:11:32 > 0:11:34- I could identify with the song.

0:11:34 > 0:11:36- Thanks for your kind words.

0:11:36 > 0:11:40- It's a thrill, to hear - your voice filling the room...

0:11:40 > 0:11:42- ..and to accompany you.

0:11:43 > 0:11:46- It's a pleasure. - I'll never forget that.

0:11:46 > 0:11:47- Great.

0:11:49 > 0:11:53- Coming up, Huw takes me - to the valley close to his heart.

0:11:53 > 0:11:56- He tells us about - a person very dear to him...

0:11:57 > 0:12:01- ..tying it all up - in a sensitive performance.

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0:12:13 > 0:12:15- # Hello, old friend

0:12:16 > 0:12:19- # It's good to see you home again #

0:12:21 > 0:12:25- The Swansea Valley, - or specifically, Godre'r Graig...

0:12:26 > 0:12:28- ..was immortalized by Huw...

0:12:28 > 0:12:31- ..in the song that won - the 1984 Song For Wales.

0:12:32 > 0:12:33- # I remember now

0:12:34 > 0:12:36- # We thought we were grown up #

0:12:38 > 0:12:42- Huw's childhood home is a big - influence and still draws him there.

0:12:43 > 0:12:45- What were his early hopes?

0:12:46 > 0:12:50- Where did singing fit - in a career that could gone...

0:12:50 > 0:12:52- ..in several directions?

0:12:54 > 0:12:58- What were your dreams? - What did you want to be?

0:13:01 > 0:13:04- I had a dozen things I wanted to be.

0:13:04 > 0:13:05- Exactly.

0:13:05 > 0:13:09- They change too, - as you go through life.

0:13:09 > 0:13:13- I wasn't the type - who knew what he wanted to do.

0:13:13 > 0:13:17- I'm still in the process - of coming to a decision!

0:13:18 > 0:13:20- It changed over the years.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22- At one time...

0:13:23 > 0:13:28- ..I wanted to be a professional - violinist and worked towards that.

0:13:28 > 0:13:31- Another time, - I wanted to be a lawyer.

0:13:32 > 0:13:36- In the end, I think - I just followed my instinct.

0:13:36 > 0:13:40- I was interested in literature - and the Welsh language.

0:13:40 > 0:13:43- Studying Welsh - was a natural choice.

0:13:43 > 0:13:44- You studied it in college?

0:13:44 > 0:13:45- You studied it in college?- - Yes.

0:13:45 > 0:13:48- I graduated in Welsh in Swansea.

0:13:48 > 0:13:51- Hearing you say that...

0:13:52 > 0:13:56- ..it's natural - that you're a skilled lyricist.

0:13:56 > 0:13:59- It's a unique gift. - It isn't accidental.

0:14:00 > 0:14:02- Maybe not.

0:14:02 > 0:14:06- I suppose I've always - been interested in words.

0:14:08 > 0:14:13- Did the singing and performing - start in college?

0:14:13 > 0:14:18- I did a little, and in school, - because I played instruments.

0:14:18 > 0:14:21- I was in the orchestra and choir.

0:14:21 > 0:14:25- In college, I was in a band, - Y Crach, for a while.

0:14:26 > 0:14:30- I was invited to join - Y Trwynau Coch on the keyboards.

0:14:30 > 0:14:32- I was with them for a while.

0:14:33 > 0:14:38- After graduating, the plan was - to do a postgraduate course.

0:14:41 > 0:14:43- That was supposed to happen.

0:14:45 > 0:14:47- Then S4C arrived.

0:14:48 > 0:14:53- There were job opportunities. - That's how it went after that.

0:14:53 > 0:14:56- You're still working now.

0:14:57 > 0:14:58- Yes.

0:14:58 > 0:15:02- Yes, I'm still quite - busy in the industry.

0:15:03 > 0:15:07- In the middle of all this, - you were busy singing.

0:15:09 > 0:15:12- Everyone is asked this question...

0:15:12 > 0:15:15- ..but what highpoints - do you remember?

0:15:15 > 0:15:18- There are many over the years.

0:15:19 > 0:15:24- I composed songs for some time - before coming to Cardiff.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27- I'm sure the incentive...

0:15:28 > 0:15:30- ..which I'm very grateful for...

0:15:32 > 0:15:38- ..was composing Y Cwm for the Song - For Wales competition, which won.

0:15:39 > 0:15:41- Interest in what I did...

0:15:43 > 0:15:45- ..intensified, perhaps.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49- If Y Cwm showed - Huw's composing gift ...

0:15:49 > 0:15:52- ..it was emphasized - with Dwylo Dros Y Mor.

0:15:53 > 0:15:56- He wrote the song - in 1985 to raise money...

0:15:56 > 0:15:58- ..for people starving in Ethiopia.

0:15:59 > 0:16:01- # Let's sing with all our souls

0:16:01 > 0:16:04- # Oh oh oh #

0:16:06 > 0:16:12- It was a very exciting time in the - world of television, and music too.

0:16:12 > 0:16:16- I'm grateful for that. - I have many sweet memories.

0:16:17 > 0:16:20- Let's enjoy the bacon roll - before it gets cold.

0:16:21 > 0:16:22- Yes!

0:16:25 > 0:16:28- # The rock is firm under our feet #

0:16:30 > 0:16:34- The whole area is - a constant inspiration for Huw.

0:16:34 > 0:16:38- But some corners - are more significant.

0:16:39 > 0:16:41- This walk follows the river...

0:16:42 > 0:16:44- ..over an old waste tip...

0:16:44 > 0:16:50- ..from the huge iron works that - was down the road in Ystalyfera.

0:16:51 > 0:16:53- The river is a wonderful sight...

0:16:54 > 0:16:58- ..when there's a lot of water, - after heavy rainfall.

0:16:58 > 0:17:03- It's quite a sight. I often come - here, especially in heavy rain.

0:17:04 > 0:17:06- I enjoy seeing - the river in full flow.

0:17:07 > 0:17:07- Shall we go down?

0:17:07 > 0:17:08- Shall we go down?- - Yes.

0:17:08 > 0:17:09- After you.

0:17:09 > 0:17:10- After you.- - Thanks.

0:17:18 > 0:17:20- I'm sure you came here to play.

0:17:21 > 0:17:23- It was like a leisure centre.

0:17:23 > 0:17:26- We swam in the river - and played on its bank.

0:17:28 > 0:17:31- All summer, we'd head for the river.

0:17:37 > 0:17:40- The weir is always - present in my memory.

0:17:41 > 0:17:44- It was very near my childhood home.

0:17:44 > 0:17:48- As children, - we all headed there to play.

0:17:49 > 0:17:54- It became a symbol for everything. - It means a great deal to me.

0:17:54 > 0:17:56- You refer to the weir...

0:17:56 > 0:18:00- ..in the song you chose - for the programme, "Tadcu".

0:18:00 > 0:18:03- It must be a very - special song for you.

0:18:04 > 0:18:05- Yes.

0:18:05 > 0:18:09- He's a very special - person for me too.

0:18:10 > 0:18:12- He was my grandfather.

0:18:13 > 0:18:15- I was an only child.

0:18:16 > 0:18:20- I was brought up under - the same roof as my grandfather.

0:18:21 > 0:18:24- I lived in his house, - with Mam and Dad.

0:18:26 > 0:18:29- I had just turned 14 when he died.

0:18:30 > 0:18:32- Here's a photo of him.

0:18:32 > 0:18:34- You're the little one.

0:18:35 > 0:18:38- That was 1961, - in front of the house.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42- I have very dear memories of him.

0:18:42 > 0:18:46- I'm sure inspiration - flowed easily for the song.

0:18:47 > 0:18:52- I went down to the weir - one night under a full moon.

0:18:53 > 0:18:55- That's where the idea germinated.

0:18:55 > 0:19:00- I looked up from the piano - at the same moon one night...

0:19:02 > 0:19:04- ..and the melody came too.

0:19:05 > 0:19:07- It's one of the classics.

0:19:07 > 0:19:08- Thanks.

0:19:08 > 0:19:09- Everyone thinks the world of it.

0:19:09 > 0:19:10- Everyone thinks the world of it.- - Thanks.

0:19:32 > 0:19:35- # In the moon, I see your face

0:19:43 > 0:19:46- # Since June '74

0:19:53 > 0:19:55- # Yes, I have an eye

0:19:56 > 0:19:59- # And tongue in my mouth

0:20:02 > 0:20:04- # I just couldn't see

0:20:05 > 0:20:07- # Now, I just can't say

0:20:09 > 0:20:13- # Why couldn't I make - your dark hours light?

0:20:16 > 0:20:19- # In the moon, I see your face

0:20:27 > 0:20:30- # There were many years between us

0:20:37 > 0:20:39- # I was very young

0:20:40 > 0:20:43- # Thinking I was a man

0:20:46 > 0:20:48- # I have so much now to say

0:20:49 > 0:20:51- # And so much to undo

0:20:53 > 0:20:55- # If I had the time back

0:20:55 > 0:20:57- # I'd do my best

0:21:00 > 0:21:04- # Here on the bank, - we can talk until morning

0:21:07 > 0:21:09- # The full moon on the weir

0:21:13 > 0:21:15- # Shining until morning

0:21:17 > 0:21:21- # Like a warm shilling in a pocket

0:21:21 > 0:21:24- # You burn the picture

0:21:28 > 0:21:32- # Remembering you burns my heart

0:21:46 > 0:21:49- # In the moon, I see your face

0:21:56 > 0:22:00- # Your voice echoing - in the empty house

0:22:07 > 0:22:09- # And in your silent hours

0:22:10 > 0:22:13- # Now I see your strength

0:22:15 > 0:22:18- # I smile as I see

0:22:19 > 0:22:21- # I smile as I say

0:22:22 > 0:22:27- # You make my dark hours light

0:22:30 > 0:22:34- # Here on the bank, - we can talk until morning

0:22:36 > 0:22:39- # The full moon on the weir

0:22:43 > 0:22:46- # Shining until morning

0:22:47 > 0:22:50- # Like a warm shilling in my pocket

0:22:51 > 0:22:54- # You burn the picture

0:22:57 > 0:23:02- # Remembering you burns my heart

0:23:05 > 0:23:07- # Grandfather #

0:23:25 > 0:23:29- After the break, Huw takes me - to meet a very special lady.

0:23:30 > 0:23:33- He lifts the curtain - on his first stage.

0:23:33 > 0:23:37- And you'll find out which - duet he's going to sing with me.

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0:23:46 > 0:23:50- Huw Chiswell's musical journey - brings us to Godre'r Graig.

0:23:51 > 0:23:54- He was keen for me - to meet a special person.

0:23:55 > 0:23:58- I want you to meet someone...

0:23:58 > 0:24:01- ..who had a great deal - of influence on me.

0:24:02 > 0:24:04- Be prepared!

0:24:05 > 0:24:06- Hello!

0:24:06 > 0:24:08- Hello!- - Hello.

0:24:09 > 0:24:11- Hello, how are you?

0:24:12 > 0:24:14- Welcome to the metropolis!

0:24:14 > 0:24:17- Nice to meet you.

0:24:17 > 0:24:20- This is Caryl Chiswell, - Huw's mother.

0:24:20 > 0:24:25- She was a classical pianist - before becoming a music teacher.

0:24:25 > 0:24:29- I wanted to meet you - because Huw tells me...

0:24:29 > 0:24:33- ..you were - his greatest musical influence.

0:24:34 > 0:24:36- I don't know about that!

0:24:36 > 0:24:38- That's what he said.

0:24:38 > 0:24:43- The fact he turned away - from classical music...

0:24:43 > 0:24:48- ..to be a singer and songwriter - proves I didn't succeed.

0:24:48 > 0:24:50- I don't know!

0:24:50 > 0:24:52- To each his own.

0:24:52 > 0:24:55- I played the piano - when I was growing up.

0:24:56 > 0:24:58- The piano was in the parlour.

0:24:58 > 0:25:03- Mam was in the kitchen and - couldn't hear if I was practising.

0:25:04 > 0:25:07- The piano was moved - to the kitchen...

0:25:07 > 0:25:10- ..so she could keep an eye on me.

0:25:11 > 0:25:13- Excellent.

0:25:13 > 0:25:17- She almost had to - nail my hands to the piano.

0:25:17 > 0:25:19- I'm glad today. Did he practise?

0:25:20 > 0:25:20- No.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22- No.- - Diligently!

0:25:22 > 0:25:24- Whenever I'd intervene...

0:25:25 > 0:25:28- ..he'd just get up and go out.

0:25:29 > 0:25:31- I said, "Huw, come back.

0:25:31 > 0:25:34- "You're my worst pupil."

0:25:35 > 0:25:36- He replied...

0:25:36 > 0:25:41- "..I can't help it that you're - Godre'r Graig's worst teacher."

0:25:43 > 0:25:47- This is too embarrassing. - I'll make the tea.

0:25:47 > 0:25:50- I can find out more about you!

0:25:51 > 0:25:53- I don't want to know. Right, tea.

0:25:54 > 0:25:56- Get ready to part with money!

0:25:58 > 0:26:02- While Huw made the tea, - I asked more questions.

0:26:03 > 0:26:06- Could you hear him composing...

0:26:06 > 0:26:08- ..on the piano?

0:26:09 > 0:26:11- With hand on heart...

0:26:12 > 0:26:15- ..I never heard any of his songs...

0:26:15 > 0:26:20- ..until they were on tape, - on the TV, or the occasional gig.

0:26:20 > 0:26:24- I wasn't welcomed in the gigs.

0:26:24 > 0:26:27- As his mother, - you must be proud of him...

0:26:28 > 0:26:32- ..and how his songs have captured - the nation's imagination.

0:26:32 > 0:26:36- Naturally. - I'd be lying if I said otherwise.

0:26:38 > 0:26:40- He is very humble.

0:26:41 > 0:26:46- He doesn't feel - he deserves the praise.

0:26:47 > 0:26:49- That's very nice.

0:26:50 > 0:26:55- It was lovely to meet you. - You have mischievous eyes!

0:26:56 > 0:26:58- I can see where he gets it from!

0:26:59 > 0:27:01- It was lovely to meet you.

0:27:01 > 0:27:04- Is it safe to come in?

0:27:06 > 0:27:09- There's sugar in one of these.

0:27:10 > 0:27:14- I'm not sure which one.

0:27:14 > 0:27:16- I've found out all about you.

0:27:16 > 0:27:17- I've found out all about you.- - Oh, dear.

0:27:17 > 0:27:21- It was lovely to meet Huw's mother.

0:27:23 > 0:27:27- The next stop was where - he performed for the first time.

0:27:29 > 0:27:33- Chapel was important to you, - as it was for me.

0:27:34 > 0:27:38- It was part of my family's - tradition.

0:27:39 > 0:27:44- Chapel was everything in those days.

0:27:44 > 0:27:46- This is the vestry.

0:27:46 > 0:27:47- This is the vestry.- - Yes.

0:27:47 > 0:27:49- A lot went on here!

0:27:50 > 0:27:52- Yes, the Band Of Hope...

0:27:52 > 0:27:55- ..and all sorts - of dramatic productions.

0:27:57 > 0:27:59- Look.

0:27:59 > 0:28:02- Is it the same?

0:28:03 > 0:28:07- It's so familiar, - it feels as if I was here yesterday.

0:28:07 > 0:28:10- Is this where you first performed?

0:28:10 > 0:28:13- Yes.

0:28:13 > 0:28:16- I was Oliver on this stage...

0:28:17 > 0:28:19- ..in a musical production.

0:28:19 > 0:28:20- No!

0:28:20 > 0:28:22- It was a junior school production.

0:28:22 > 0:28:25- It was a junior school production.- - "Please, sir, can I have some more?"

0:28:26 > 0:28:28- I sang Where Is Love here...

0:28:29 > 0:28:32- ..staring lovingly - into someone's eyes.

0:28:32 > 0:28:34- And Mam cried.

0:28:35 > 0:28:37- I don't know.

0:28:41 > 0:28:42- Look.

0:28:42 > 0:28:44- Look.- - Blimey!

0:28:46 > 0:28:49- Do childhood memories - come flooding back?

0:28:50 > 0:28:51- Yes.

0:28:51 > 0:28:56- Very happy memories.

0:28:58 > 0:29:03- It must have been exciting - to perform in Oliver.

0:29:04 > 0:29:05- Definitely.

0:29:06 > 0:29:10- The feeling still comes back - whenever I perform.

0:29:11 > 0:29:16- It doesn't go away.

0:29:17 > 0:29:21- Childhood memories come back.

0:29:23 > 0:29:24- In the vestry...

0:29:25 > 0:29:30- ..I listened to the song - Huw chose to sing with me.

0:29:30 > 0:29:34- The Swansea Valley singer, - Mary Hopkin, recorded it in 1969.

0:29:35 > 0:29:37- "Sparrow".

0:29:39 > 0:29:41- # On Sunday morning

0:29:42 > 0:29:44- # Everyone will leave the house

0:29:45 > 0:29:47- # Dressed for the Sunday service

0:29:48 > 0:29:52- # And through the streets - I used to know

0:29:52 > 0:29:55- # They go, to meet their friends

0:29:55 > 0:30:00- # And so they take the family seat #

0:30:01 > 0:30:03- That was strange.

0:30:03 > 0:30:04- That was strange.- - Very strange.

0:30:05 > 0:30:07- It must have been emotional.

0:30:07 > 0:30:09- It must have been emotional.- - It's just the whole thing...

0:30:09 > 0:30:13- ..being back the vestry - after so many years...

0:30:13 > 0:30:17- ..and hearing a song - that means so much to me.

0:30:18 > 0:30:20- Gwyn Davies wrote the lyrics.

0:30:20 > 0:30:22- He was raised here...

0:30:22 > 0:30:25- ..opposite the vestry.

0:30:25 > 0:30:28- There's been a landslide there.

0:30:28 > 0:30:31- There's a mixture of emotions.

0:30:33 > 0:30:35- In a way, it's lovely.

0:30:36 > 0:30:39- At the same time, it's bittersweet.

0:30:40 > 0:30:42- "Sparrow" means a lot to Huw.

0:30:43 > 0:30:48- It's time to rehearse with - the music arranger Caradog Williams.

0:30:49 > 0:30:53- What would be possible - for our different voices?

0:30:53 > 0:30:56- It's one of your favourite songs.

0:30:57 > 0:31:00- It's part of my upbringing.

0:31:01 > 0:31:05- We had the record - when I was a child.

0:31:06 > 0:31:11- Everything about it - screams Pontardawe to me.

0:31:12 > 0:31:17- The descriptions...

0:31:17 > 0:31:19- ..and atmosphere.

0:31:19 > 0:31:23- I listened - to Gallagher and Lyle's version.

0:31:23 > 0:31:27- They composed the song.

0:31:28 > 0:31:31- # The sparrow sings, - the sparrow flies

0:31:32 > 0:31:34- # With mighty wings he reaches

0:31:34 > 0:31:37- # High as any other bird

0:31:38 > 0:31:41- # He shall inherit all the earth #

0:31:41 > 0:31:43- We'll have the guitar...

0:31:44 > 0:31:49- ..and the fantastic orchestra's - strings and wind instruments.

0:31:50 > 0:31:55- The flute and other instruments...

0:31:55 > 0:31:57- ..will suggest the bird.

0:31:57 > 0:32:00- I'm looking forward.

0:32:00 > 0:32:01- Can I have a copy?

0:32:01 > 0:32:03- Can I have a copy?- - Of course.

0:32:03 > 0:32:05- You have two!

0:32:05 > 0:32:06- You have two!- - I'm sorry!

0:32:09 > 0:32:12- # The sparrow sings, - the sparrow flies

0:32:13 > 0:32:15- # With mighty wings he reaches

0:32:16 > 0:32:19- # High as any other bird

0:32:19 > 0:32:22- # He shall inherit all the earth

0:32:22 > 0:32:25- # The sparrow sings, - the sparrow flies

0:32:26 > 0:32:29- # With mighty wings he reaches

0:32:29 > 0:32:32- # High as any other bird

0:32:32 > 0:32:35- # He shall inherit all the earth #

0:32:36 > 0:32:38- Brilliant. Happy?

0:32:38 > 0:32:41- Excellent. That was lovely.

0:32:44 > 0:32:45- # On Sunday morning

0:32:46 > 0:32:49- # Everyone will leave the house

0:32:50 > 0:32:52- # Dressed for the Sunday service

0:32:52 > 0:32:57- # And through the streets - I used to know

0:32:58 > 0:33:00- # They go, to meet their friends

0:33:02 > 0:33:04- # And so they take the family seat

0:33:05 > 0:33:08- # Father prays so earnestly

0:33:09 > 0:33:11- # Forgetting all around him

0:33:12 > 0:33:15- # When Eleanor sings in the choir

0:33:17 > 0:33:20- # It's like a lark in summer

0:33:21 > 0:33:24- # The sparrow sings, - the sparrow flies

0:33:24 > 0:33:27- # With mighty wings he reaches

0:33:28 > 0:33:31- # High as any other bird

0:33:31 > 0:33:34- # He shall inherit all the earth

0:33:35 > 0:33:38- # The sparrow sings, - the sparrow flies

0:33:38 > 0:33:41- # With mighty wings he reaches

0:33:41 > 0:33:44- # High as any other bird

0:33:45 > 0:33:48- # He shall inherit all the earth

0:33:50 > 0:33:52- # A wealth of silence

0:33:53 > 0:33:55- # Will descend upon the town

0:33:55 > 0:33:58- # In colours of the evening

0:33:59 > 0:34:04- # The thought - has troubled me before, I know

0:34:04 > 0:34:06- # How long

0:34:06 > 0:34:10- # I need a song to fill each moment

0:34:11 > 0:34:16- # I had to find it out my way

0:34:16 > 0:34:18- # They could not stop me leaving

0:34:18 > 0:34:21- # And though they knew - but could not say

0:34:22 > 0:34:25- # They let me go believing

0:34:27 > 0:34:29- # The sparrow sings, - the sparrow flies

0:34:30 > 0:34:33- # With mighty wings he reaches

0:34:34 > 0:34:37- # High as any other bird

0:34:37 > 0:34:40- # He shall inherit all the earth

0:34:40 > 0:34:43- # The sparrow sings, - the sparrow flies

0:34:43 > 0:34:47- # With mighty wings he reaches

0:34:47 > 0:34:50- # High as any other bird

0:34:50 > 0:34:53- # He shall inherit all the earth

0:34:56 > 0:35:00- # Through the blue and hazy drift - of after two

0:35:01 > 0:35:04- # A saxophone is moaning

0:35:05 > 0:35:08- # I rise

0:35:08 > 0:35:14- # And step into the cool night air #

0:35:17 > 0:35:22- It was a pleasure - to sing "Sparrow" with Huw.

0:35:22 > 0:35:28- Coming up, was the challenge of - singing an Italian duet a success?

0:35:28 > 0:35:31- And I pick a fight with Chiz!

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0:35:43 > 0:35:47- The duet rehearsals are going well.

0:35:47 > 0:35:49- I enjoy Huw's company.

0:35:52 > 0:35:54- He asked me to come here.

0:35:54 > 0:35:56- We're in Splott in Cardiff.

0:35:57 > 0:36:01- He used to go to this gym - when he used to box.

0:36:02 > 0:36:04- He's training here now.

0:36:05 > 0:36:08- I might even try out - some new skills.

0:36:15 > 0:36:16- Hey!

0:36:19 > 0:36:21- Look at the feet going!

0:36:21 > 0:36:24- They're not as fast as they were!

0:36:27 > 0:36:28- Do you want a go?

0:36:28 > 0:36:29- Do you want a go?- - Oh, blimey!

0:36:32 > 0:36:34- I haven't skipped in years.

0:36:35 > 0:36:37- Give it a go.

0:36:38 > 0:36:39- Stand far away.

0:36:39 > 0:36:40- Stand far away.- - I will!

0:36:41 > 0:36:44- Right. Here goes.

0:36:48 > 0:36:49- Not bad.

0:36:49 > 0:36:51- Not bad.- - It's going well.

0:36:52 > 0:36:54- Do you do a lot of skipping?

0:36:54 > 0:36:57- Do you do a lot of skipping?- - I turn to the rope to keep fit.

0:36:58 > 0:37:00- Skipping is what I tend to do.

0:37:00 > 0:37:04- It's exciting to be here.

0:37:05 > 0:37:07- I've always loved boxing.

0:37:08 > 0:37:11- You boxed yourself.

0:37:11 > 0:37:15- Yes, a bit. - Well, quite a lot over the years.

0:37:15 > 0:37:17- Did you compete?

0:37:17 > 0:37:20- I wasn't allowed to do too much.

0:37:20 > 0:37:24- Mam didn't know that I was boxing. - I boxed in the gym.

0:37:25 > 0:37:30- Moving to Cardiff - gave me more freedom.

0:37:31 > 0:37:33- Can we go in the ring?

0:37:33 > 0:37:35- Can we go in the ring?- - I can't see why not.

0:37:37 > 0:37:39- Crikey!

0:37:39 > 0:37:42- The floor is quite springy.

0:37:42 > 0:37:45- It's easier on the joints.

0:37:45 > 0:37:48- Do you remember - the Muhammad Ali v Foreman fight?

0:37:49 > 0:37:51- Rope-a-Dope.

0:37:51 > 0:37:54- Although I was having fun...

0:37:55 > 0:37:59- ..I wasn't sure - what would happen next.

0:38:01 > 0:38:03- I'd like to emphasize...

0:38:04 > 0:38:07- ..that you hit these, not me.

0:38:07 > 0:38:12- Nothing outside the white and red!

0:38:12 > 0:38:13- Are you going to move them?

0:38:13 > 0:38:16- Are you going to move them?- - I'll keep them in the same place.

0:38:16 > 0:38:19- Left or right hand?

0:38:19 > 0:38:21- Right.

0:38:22 > 0:38:24- OK, then. Try it. That's it.

0:38:25 > 0:38:27- Cross the other.

0:38:31 > 0:38:35- On the phone, - you said your father was a boxer.

0:38:36 > 0:38:38- In his time...

0:38:39 > 0:38:43- ..boxing in the South Wales Valleys - was popular.

0:38:43 > 0:38:46- He competed professionally.

0:38:47 > 0:38:50- Did he come to see you boxing?

0:38:50 > 0:38:53- My last fight was in Neath.

0:38:53 > 0:38:55- I was boxing for this club.

0:38:56 > 0:38:59- Unbeknown to me...

0:39:00 > 0:39:03- ..he turned up in the club.

0:39:05 > 0:39:07- I felt the pressure.

0:39:09 > 0:39:13- Another unfortunate thing - happened that night.

0:39:13 > 0:39:17- I was in the ring - and heard someone say, "Chiswell."

0:39:17 > 0:39:21- I turned round and said, - "I must be fighting one of you."

0:39:22 > 0:39:24- The chap said, "Me."

0:39:25 > 0:39:28- "You?" I said, looking up.

0:39:29 > 0:39:35- He was at least two or three stones - heavier than me.

0:39:36 > 0:39:38- I was eleven and a half stone.

0:39:39 > 0:39:44- I decided to give up after that.

0:39:44 > 0:39:46- What was the result?

0:39:47 > 0:39:51- I was frightened. He went down - at the end of the first round.

0:39:52 > 0:39:56- He went down twice in the beginning - of the second round.

0:39:56 > 0:39:58- I got away with it. He was KO'd.

0:39:58 > 0:39:59- You beat him?

0:39:59 > 0:40:02- You beat him?- - Yes. Thank goodness.

0:40:02 > 0:40:08- That's it. Three fast ones with your - left and a big one with the right.

0:40:09 > 0:40:11- That's it.

0:40:18 > 0:40:22- That was a KO. - There was power in those hits.

0:40:22 > 0:40:25- I thought I'd better stay back.

0:40:25 > 0:40:28- I'll stick to singing.

0:40:30 > 0:40:32- And me!

0:40:32 > 0:40:35- Excellent.

0:40:36 > 0:40:40- We'll stick to singing. We returned - to the studio for the final time.

0:40:41 > 0:40:43- Huw's challenge is Gira Con Me.

0:40:44 > 0:40:47- # Un giorno lui si

0:40:48 > 0:40:51- # Si caprira #

0:40:52 > 0:40:55- It was challenging for Huw.

0:40:55 > 0:40:57- It's a classical song.

0:40:58 > 0:41:03- It's a totally different genre - from what he's used to.

0:41:03 > 0:41:05- The Italian was new.

0:41:05 > 0:41:08- But he looks Italian.

0:41:09 > 0:41:11- He mastered the language.

0:41:11 > 0:41:15- It was a challenge, - but I'm extremely proud of him.

0:41:16 > 0:41:18- Humdinger.

0:41:18 > 0:41:20- I think we nailed it.

0:41:21 > 0:41:23- I enjoyed doing it.

0:41:24 > 0:41:27- I feel as if I've been - in the gym for five hours.

0:41:27 > 0:41:32- It was a privilege - to record with Rhys.

0:41:32 > 0:41:35- A lot of people...

0:41:35 > 0:41:39- ..especially in Wales...

0:41:39 > 0:41:43- ..would sacrifice - a great deal for that experience.

0:41:44 > 0:41:46- I'm very lucky.

0:41:46 > 0:41:52- # To understand you #

0:42:01 > 0:42:02- Excellent.

0:42:02 > 0:42:04- Excellent.- - Thanks for the help.

0:42:07 > 0:42:10- # After leaving Ystrad

0:42:11 > 0:42:13- # We reach Craig Y Nos

0:42:14 > 0:42:16- # Eyes on the road #

0:42:17 > 0:42:22- The song was my choice, - but Huw chose the location.

0:42:22 > 0:42:27- Where else but - Adelina Patti's famous theatre...

0:42:27 > 0:42:29- ..Craig Y Nos.

0:42:29 > 0:42:32- What is the significance - of this place?

0:42:33 > 0:42:38- I grew up with the idea of - Craig Y Nos as a magical place.

0:42:38 > 0:42:41- I'd heard stories - about Adelina Patti.

0:42:42 > 0:42:47- It's possibly one of - the most beautiful places on earth.

0:42:49 > 0:42:52- It's a significant place to me.

0:42:52 > 0:42:56- We're nearing - the end of the programme.

0:42:56 > 0:42:59- What does the future hold?

0:42:59 > 0:43:02- I'll ask on behalf - of everyone in Wales...

0:43:02 > 0:43:04- ..will there be another CD?

0:43:04 > 0:43:05- ..will there be another CD?- - I hope so.

0:43:06 > 0:43:10- I'll venture to say that by - the time the programme goes out...

0:43:10 > 0:43:13- ..new tracks will be on my website.

0:43:13 > 0:43:16- I hope so, for your fans' sakes!

0:43:17 > 0:43:21- It was a pleasure to have - your company and to sing with you.

0:43:21 > 0:43:22- Thanks.

0:43:22 > 0:43:27- It was a pleasure and privilege - for me, too. Thanks. I enjoyed it.

0:43:44 > 0:43:48- # Il mondo gira con me questa notte

0:43:50 > 0:43:53- # Piccoli passi che faccio con te

0:43:56 > 0:44:00- # Seguo il tuo cuore e seguo la luna

0:44:02 > 0:44:06- # Cosi nascosta lontana da me

0:44:08 > 0:44:13- # Il mondo gira con noi questa notte

0:44:14 > 0:44:19- # Ah, esistesse lontano da qui

0:44:20 > 0:44:25- # Un posto dove scoprire - il mio cuore

0:44:26 > 0:44:30- # Sapere se lui puo'amare ti o no

0:44:31 > 0:44:34- # E girera

0:44:35 > 0:44:38- # E girera

0:44:39 > 0:44:42- # Il cuore mio

0:44:43 > 0:44:46- # Assieme a te

0:44:46 > 0:44:50- # E girera il la terra

0:44:50 > 0:44:54- # Girera la mia vita

0:44:55 > 0:44:58- # E un giorno lui si

0:44:59 > 0:45:02- # Si caprira

0:45:06 > 0:45:11- # It's you who wanders - with me tonight

0:45:12 > 0:45:17- # It's you who wanders far from here

0:45:18 > 0:45:23- # But yes I know - that you are my moon

0:45:24 > 0:45:29- # Something you show, - something you don't

0:45:30 > 0:45:35- # There are blue roads in the sky

0:45:36 > 0:45:40- # There are eyes, - and the sky is already there

0:45:42 > 0:45:47- # Yes, I think this is the stars

0:45:48 > 0:45:52- # Ah, if I could stop like this

0:45:53 > 0:45:56- # And it will wander

0:45:57 > 0:46:00- # And it will wander

0:46:01 > 0:46:04- # My heart

0:46:05 > 0:46:08- # Far from you

0:46:09 > 0:46:13- # And the earth will wander

0:46:13 > 0:46:17- # My life will wander

0:46:17 > 0:46:20- # And one day yes

0:46:21 > 0:46:25- # Yes it will understand

0:46:47 > 0:46:51- # Cuore e gia lontano

0:46:52 > 0:46:57- # Si tu sei la luna

0:46:58 > 0:47:04- # Potessi scoprirlo nel cielo

0:47:06 > 0:47:10- # E girera

0:47:11 > 0:47:14- # E girera

0:47:15 > 0:47:18- # Si girera

0:47:19 > 0:47:22- # Il cuore mio

0:47:23 > 0:47:26- # Girera il la terra

0:47:26 > 0:47:32- # Girera la mia vita

0:47:33 > 0:47:37- # Un giorno lui si

0:47:37 > 0:47:40- # Si caprira

0:47:41 > 0:47:44- # And one day yes it will

0:47:44 > 0:47:46- # And one day yes it will

0:47:47 > 0:47:52- # Understand you #

0:48:27 > 0:48:29- S4C Subtitles by Gwead

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