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:00:12. > :00:18.STUDIO: Other BBC networks are joining us now, this is a reminder

:00:19. > :00:24.of what we are watching, latest pictures coming to us from various

:00:25. > :00:36.places in Paris. Multiple violent attacks have taken place, including

:00:37. > :00:39.shootings. We know that explosions have happened outside of the Stade

:00:40. > :00:47.de France, a friendly was taking place between France and Germany.

:00:48. > :00:52.Bars and restaurants further into the heart of the city. We need to

:00:53. > :00:58.speak again with Paris correspondent Hugh Schofield commonly made his way

:00:59. > :01:23.a little while ago to the Bataclan, in the 11th Baron -- in the 11th

:01:24. > :01:24.arrondissement. I have just spoken with an anvil and man, he has come

:01:25. > :01:30.in from the Paris of with an anvil and man, he has come

:01:31. > :01:35.from the palace of the site. He says he has no idea what is going to be

:01:36. > :01:55.This is a very trendy and young arrived. --

:01:56. > :02:04.This is a very trendy and young area, lots of people have been out,

:02:05. > :02:07.warm evening, people on the streets, enjoying very pleasant early

:02:08. > :02:13.November evening, and at this concert Hall, the Bataclan, it is

:02:14. > :02:21.Eagles of Death Metal that were playing earlier, a well-known

:02:22. > :02:24.Californian band. And yes, if it is true that the bulk of people are

:02:25. > :02:31.inside, held hostage, this is absolutely frightful. You are pretty

:02:32. > :02:42.close to this concert Hall, you are being kept back to a certain extent.

:02:43. > :02:47.Probably 100, 200 metres from it, I am on a boulevard, the main road...

:02:48. > :02:54.Just around the corner, down the side street. I can see a line of

:02:55. > :02:58.police vehicles all the way down. Every now and again, we are told to

:02:59. > :03:06.budge, and ambulances are going through. It is the 200 metres

:03:07. > :03:10.distance... And we had the exposure. It is very difficult to make

:03:11. > :03:28.anything else -- did very difficult to make anything out. Muse will have

:03:29. > :03:35.reached you of what the president was saying when you're dressed

:03:36. > :03:40.France. The state of emergency, the fact that the borders are to be

:03:41. > :03:46.closed. -- what the president was saying when he addressed France. How

:03:47. > :03:48.is all of this new is going down? A couple of mobile phones went when he

:03:49. > :03:57.was speaking, couple of mobile phones went when he

:03:58. > :04:02.political staff, really. It is significant, what you said. The

:04:03. > :04:09.first time since the Algerian War that the whole of

:04:10. > :04:09.first time since the Algerian War been in a state of emergency. In the

:04:10. > :04:11.first time since the Algerian War riots of 2005, parts of the country

:04:12. > :04:17.were under a state of emergency, but this is the whole of the country.

:04:18. > :04:22.That is unprecedented. Those in the Borders. In a sense, that was

:04:23. > :04:26.coming, because of the climate conference, kicking off in a couple

:04:27. > :04:32.of weeks. That was the stage where they feared there would be a

:04:33. > :04:36.potential terrorist attack, and the closing of the Borders, the

:04:37. > :04:41.suspension of Schengen, was going to come in in preparation for that. But

:04:42. > :04:46.clearly, this has been eclipsed by this. The mood is... It is an eerie

:04:47. > :04:56.mood, wandering around, it was just sinking in. I saw one woman on the

:04:57. > :05:01.unease crying, because she had just heard that her friend was in the

:05:02. > :05:09.Bataclan concert hall during the concert, and then all of the bars,

:05:10. > :05:13.they kind of shut. The blinds are half down, people inside looking

:05:14. > :05:17.out, some have been told not to move but they are edging out, looking on

:05:18. > :05:21.the streets. There have been altercations between locals,

:05:22. > :05:24.wondering what is going on, probably not realising the gravity of the

:05:25. > :05:30.situation, and saying to the police, what is going on? The police have

:05:31. > :05:35.been aggressive back. It is very eerie. Especially when there is this

:05:36. > :05:38.message to the police as well, saying, the whole of the Paris

:05:39. > :05:42.region, the whole region, stay at home, is the message from the

:05:43. > :05:46.police. That is a staggering piece of advice. It is like telling the

:05:47. > :05:55.Home Counties to stay at home because we do not know what has gone

:05:56. > :06:05.on! It was a little like that in the Charlie Hebdo events, but this is

:06:06. > :06:15.worse! This is more big and more random. And therefore so much more

:06:16. > :06:24.frightening. Thank you very much, with the latest from close to the

:06:25. > :06:27.Bataclan concert Hall, he says he is 200 metres away, cannot quite see

:06:28. > :06:32.the building but we are aware from these pictures, how much activity

:06:33. > :06:40.there has been, he says it appears to be the status quo, he has not

:06:41. > :06:43.seen people leaving. We understand 100 people have

:06:44. > :06:47.seen people leaving. We understand in the Bataclan after an attack,

:06:48. > :06:58.gunmen, multiple gunmen, stormed the building.

:06:59. > :07:07.Widdowson the studio is the director of security services at the Royal

:07:08. > :07:09.Institute in London. You have sat patiently through these developments

:07:10. > :07:12.that we are trying to get patiently through these developments

:07:13. > :07:17.with coming out of Paris. Your initial observation? I think it is

:07:18. > :07:21.difficult to know what we are looking at at this point. What we

:07:22. > :07:26.know for certain is we are dealing with a call would Arnie attack

:07:27. > :07:30.involving multiple targets and one suspects multiple individuals using

:07:31. > :07:34.what appeared to be automatic weapons and explosives, all of which

:07:35. > :07:39.require training and preparation, so I think we can pretty confidently

:07:40. > :07:44.say that this had been prepared for some time. Across multiple

:07:45. > :07:51.locations, and it could be as many as six or seven, we are hearing,

:07:52. > :07:59.coordinated in your view? I think so. What we don't know is how all of

:08:00. > :08:04.these incidents are connected. Are we dealing with people who are

:08:05. > :08:08.jumping on the moment and deciding this is the moment they should

:08:09. > :08:16.strike, or people who are mobile and running around the city. We have to

:08:17. > :08:20.think about this, if we look back to the Charlie Hebdo attack earlier

:08:21. > :08:26.this year, I think it is possible we should also look back to the Mumbai

:08:27. > :08:29.attacks in 2008 as an early example of this, where we had a group of

:08:30. > :08:36.attackers targeting the city going from target to target, shooting as

:08:37. > :08:40.they could, blowing themselves up and ultimately holing themselves up

:08:41. > :08:45.in one place to fight to the death. Reuters are saying that the police

:08:46. > :08:49.operation at the Bataclan concert theatre where we understand up to

:08:50. > :08:54.100 people are being held hostage, that operation is now over. We hope

:08:55. > :08:58.to get more details from the police when they are in a position to

:08:59. > :09:02.explaining Saky what has been going on inside that holding which was

:09:03. > :09:11.packed on a Friday night. There was a heavy metal concert taking place,

:09:12. > :09:14.a band playing from California. The British Foreign Office is advising

:09:15. > :09:21.that people who have concerns about reduced friends or relatives in

:09:22. > :09:24.Paris have a number to call. It is a London number, the main switchboard,

:09:25. > :09:36.and I will repeat it a couple of times for you. Apologies if you are

:09:37. > :09:42.watching abroad. The number is 0207 0081500. That is further assistance

:09:43. > :09:50.for people who are concerned about friends or relatives who may be in

:09:51. > :09:51.Paris. This is for British friends or relatives who the Foreign Office

:09:52. > :10:02.can help with. If you need to get that number

:10:03. > :10:18.again, I imagine it will now be on the British Foreign Office website.

:10:19. > :10:30.With us to try to to discuss this is Raffaello Pantucci from the Security

:10:31. > :10:34.Institute. They are deploying officers to French government

:10:35. > :10:38.locations in the United States, notably New York City, an obvious

:10:39. > :10:44.thing to do, but worth repeating. Certainly it is. In other major

:10:45. > :10:47.cities there will immediately be concerned about the possibility of a

:10:48. > :10:55.copycat incident or some other sort of attack,, or it is a show of

:10:56. > :11:01.strength, and people will be alarmed that this could happen to them. It

:11:02. > :11:12.is as much to show the people that they are out there and will defend

:11:13. > :11:17.what they can. Raffaello, stay with us. We are looking into this

:11:18. > :11:22.multifaceted story which is unfolding. Our correspondent is on

:11:23. > :11:28.the ground, can you tell us what you are hearing?

:11:29. > :11:33.Just behind me is the Bataclan concert hall where the hostages are

:11:34. > :11:37.being held, and we are told that the assault has been ongoing there. We

:11:38. > :11:42.have heard some gunfire, a lot of police and security forces have been

:11:43. > :11:48.cordoning off this road, and we are told that the assault is under way.

:11:49. > :11:54.We have had reports that the assault is over. Often here in the studio we

:11:55. > :12:01.can get a clear overview then you can on the scene. How many members

:12:02. > :12:06.of the public are out and about? We have been reporting that the mayor

:12:07. > :12:13.of Paris has said that the city is in lockdown, do not go out.

:12:14. > :12:17.That has been the advice given, and behind me as a small crowd of

:12:18. > :12:21.onlookers waiting at a police cordon, and we have seen several

:12:22. > :12:25.people wandering around. One thing to say is that this area would

:12:26. > :12:33.normally be packed at midnight on a Friday night, and it is almost

:12:34. > :12:37.deserted. Eerily empty streets, just a small gaggle of people try to find

:12:38. > :12:43.out what is going on in their city. And what are they saying to you

:12:44. > :12:47.about what they understand in Paris tonight? We have heard the statement

:12:48. > :12:53.from President Hollande that this is the most significant series of

:12:54. > :12:58.terror attacks that they have had in France, and it comes after the

:12:59. > :13:05.events in January of Charlie Hebdo and the Jewish supermarket.

:13:06. > :13:08.I think the fact that so many people are staying away and staying indoors

:13:09. > :13:11.tells you the level of fear that is here in the city tonight just ten

:13:12. > :13:16.months after the Charlie Hebdo attacks. We have these attacks that

:13:17. > :13:21.shows some similar hallmarks, attacks with guns on soft targets,

:13:22. > :13:26.if you like. And a hostage situation, explosives being used. It

:13:27. > :13:30.will bring back painful memories for people here in Paris, and the

:13:31. > :13:36.streets here tonight are certainly pretty quiet. There are a lot of

:13:37. > :13:38.questions people want answered. Lucy Williamson, thank you very much. She

:13:39. > :13:59.is at the 11th hour and he Williamson, thank you very much. She

:14:00. > :14:03.the 11th arrondissement. And north-east, in the 10th

:14:04. > :14:07.arrondissement, this footage appears to show the aftermath of one of the

:14:08. > :14:13.attacks, and you may find it distressing. You can see the

:14:14. > :14:15.emergency services in the background who came to the scene pretty fast,

:14:16. > :14:22.we understand from who came to the scene pretty fast,

:14:23. > :14:26.police cordon put up very quickly after what witnesses said

:14:27. > :14:28.police cordon put up very quickly men armed with Kalashnikov assault

:14:29. > :14:33.rifles who fired diners through the plate glass windows, and the result

:14:34. > :14:39.will multiple casualties. There were reports of people outside the

:14:40. > :14:50.restaurant Syriza injured. This is just one of these multiple

:14:51. > :14:58.locations. -- seriously injured. We are hearing there maybe six or seven

:14:59. > :15:08.locations around Paris, and to the furthest out appears to be Saint

:15:09. > :15:16.Denis where a bar near to the Stade De France witnessed an explosion.

:15:17. > :15:20.Just a reminder that Raffaello Pantucci from the Royal United

:15:21. > :15:26.services Institute in London is here with us now. Where does France go

:15:27. > :15:30.from here? We already know from the beginning of the year various places

:15:31. > :15:37.around Paris, there were increased security presences, the Army seen on

:15:38. > :15:43.the street quite regularly, and people got used to that. What more

:15:44. > :15:46.do they do? I think you will have a lot of questions being asked in

:15:47. > :15:51.France about what more they have to do at this point. You have seen the

:15:52. > :15:54.tempo of attacks and disruptive plots and actual assaults

:15:55. > :15:57.tempo of attacks and disruptive in France going up to quite a

:15:58. > :16:01.substantial number. The question about what the police can do next,

:16:02. > :16:07.you will see the revisiting a lot of their case files, trying to pick

:16:08. > :16:11.people up who they were concerned about, who were less of a priority

:16:12. > :16:15.and now will become a greater priority. There will be military

:16:16. > :16:25.have to be put on the streets to deploy at sites to act as protection

:16:26. > :16:27.and to a comfort for the people to show them that security can be

:16:28. > :16:36.stepped up. But it is a difficult call. Jens

:16:37. > :16:42.Stoltenberg, the general secretary of Nato, has said that terrorists

:16:43. > :16:45.will never destroy democracy, carry on with your life, but if you have

:16:46. > :16:51.the army out on the streets, that does change things. It depends what

:16:52. > :16:55.they are doing. If you go to Brussels, you will have seen heavily

:16:56. > :17:01.armed soldiers standing outside most of the official buildings around the

:17:02. > :17:04.city. And quite frankly, on my many visits there, I didn't see people

:17:05. > :17:09.acting any differently because of it. It is intimidating but it seems

:17:10. > :17:16.to be the way the threat picture has gone. The difficulty comes if you

:17:17. > :17:18.see an exaggerated crack on broader communities and the victimisation

:17:19. > :17:25.and social tensions but that can cause. That is the damage which can

:17:26. > :17:29.be irreparable to societies. And the closing of the borders to

:17:30. > :17:33.prevent more people leaving or arriving, we just don't know how

:17:34. > :17:39.long that could be in place, or for what reason it might be used as this

:17:40. > :17:45.being the thing that prompts France to reconsider how it polices its

:17:46. > :17:49.borders. I think when you take this on the

:17:50. > :17:55.current refugee crisis, it would not surprise me if you start to see

:17:56. > :18:02.quite serious questions about the Schengen zone and free movement. We

:18:03. > :18:05.saw some of this discussion already this year when there was the

:18:06. > :18:09.attempted attack on the Italian train going to France. And there was

:18:10. > :18:13.a discussion about whether we need police trains on the continent more.

:18:14. > :18:17.Do we need to set up stronger borders and would that be

:18:18. > :18:21.preventative? It is difficult to know, that there is certainly this

:18:22. > :18:24.question of free movement around the continent being something which

:18:25. > :18:27.security forces across Europe are going to be looking at a very

:18:28. > :18:32.seriously and wondering if it will continue. Just a couple of days

:18:33. > :18:36.ago, authorities across the continent disrupted a large network

:18:37. > :18:41.of people associated with a terrorist group, a Kurdish jihadi

:18:42. > :18:47.group in northern Iraq which had a network of people across Europe. We

:18:48. > :18:50.saw good cross-border European co-operation, but the reason you had

:18:51. > :18:53.to have this was because the threat picture was going in that

:18:54. > :18:57.direction, with people really across multiple countries.

:18:58. > :19:01.Let me just bring you up-to-date with a couple of new lines that have

:19:02. > :19:06.come in to us. We understand the police assault that was under way at

:19:07. > :19:11.the Bataclan concert Hall in Paris is now over. The police are being

:19:12. > :19:16.quoted here by the press Association saying that there were hostages

:19:17. > :19:20.being held, the reports earlier were that up to 100 people were held

:19:21. > :19:23.hostage, we need to have that fully confirmed, but the reports are that

:19:24. > :19:31.French forces have killed at least two attackers during that assault on

:19:32. > :19:35.the Bataclan concert hall in the 11th arrondissement. And separately,

:19:36. > :19:42.the United Nations Security Council have condemned what they describe as

:19:43. > :19:48.the cowardly and barbaric attack in Paris. They want to bring the

:19:49. > :19:53.perpetrators of these acts to justice. President Hollande has

:19:54. > :19:58.cancelled his participation at the G20 meeting which is taking place in

:19:59. > :20:07.Turkey this weekend. I do believe we have got some mobile phone footage

:20:08. > :20:10.of what was happening outside the Bataclan concert fitter, and I.

:20:11. > :20:19.Speaking because you can hear shots fired and explosions.

:20:20. > :20:29.GUNFIRE. A couple of explosions and then some

:20:30. > :20:33.sort of gunfire as well. We understand according to a Reuters

:20:34. > :20:36.reporter at the scene of that siege that we were just looking at footage

:20:37. > :20:42.of, the assault was launched by elite police unit at the concert

:20:43. > :20:48.hall where those assailants have been holding people hostage. I

:20:49. > :20:52.believe that we had elite units out in January on the streets of Paris

:20:53. > :20:57.in the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo shootings during the couple of

:20:58. > :21:02.days when the gun men were on the run. Raffaello Pantucci is briefly

:21:03. > :21:07.here with us from the Royal United services Institute. They have

:21:08. > :21:12.wrought in real specialists to deal with they would. When you are

:21:13. > :21:15.looking at this sort of an operation and people using automatic weapons

:21:16. > :21:20.and explosives, you have to send in special forces. I suspect their

:21:21. > :21:24.desire was to close down the hostage situation as soon as possible, if

:21:25. > :21:29.you are dealing with able who are clearly intends to kill as many as

:21:30. > :21:34.they can, you want to prevent them from doing that any more, and moving

:21:35. > :21:37.in strong would be unnecessary. The Charlie Hebdo attack was clearly a

:21:38. > :21:42.wake-up call for French authorities, and it is worth remembering soon

:21:43. > :21:47.after that a plot was disrupted across the border in Belgium with

:21:48. > :21:50.groups who appeared to have explosive devices in police

:21:51. > :21:54.uniforms, under suspicion was they were planning a large attack in

:21:55. > :21:59.Brussels that could have been shaped by this. There was a heavy police

:22:00. > :22:07.assault there that ended up in a big shoot out, but it was a very live

:22:08. > :22:12.and dynamic terrorist incident. They have had a lot to cope with

:22:13. > :22:17.this year, France and their various authorities. Stay with us if you

:22:18. > :22:21.would, because on the line now we are joined by a jazz musician who

:22:22. > :22:24.was performing at a restaurant close to where one of these attacks

:22:25. > :22:31.happened. Leo, thank you for joining us here. Tell us where you were.

:22:32. > :22:37.To be honest with you, I am not sure exactly what I was close to and what

:22:38. > :22:44.I was not close to, it has been so difficult to really receive any

:22:45. > :22:49.accurate information here, just as difficult here as it is anywhere. I

:22:50. > :22:55.was performing at a jazz club called the Sunset. There was a murmur that

:22:56. > :23:00.went through the crowd that something was going on. We continue

:23:01. > :23:04.to play for a while, then we took a break. On the break, we still had

:23:05. > :23:10.not decided whether or not it made sense to continue playing. Somebody

:23:11. > :23:15.showed me a cell phone notification that there had been a shooting, very

:23:16. > :23:21.close by, really. It seemed almost impossible to continue playing a

:23:22. > :23:24.concert under those conditions. We carefully encouraged people to

:23:25. > :23:31.calmly go home, and I did the same thing. In an apartment nearby now.

:23:32. > :23:35.Do you know what is happening outside? We understand there is

:23:36. > :23:40.pretty much a lockdown in the city, and the mayor of Paris has said,

:23:41. > :23:47.don't go anywhere. You might be best to stay where you are. That was the

:23:48. > :23:51.sense. In fact, when the first new is kind of hit, we were thinking,

:23:52. > :23:55.maybe it made sense to stay where we were. Within 20 minutes of the

:23:56. > :24:12.initial indication, the streets emptied. There is nobody on the

:24:13. > :24:20.street. Where are you getting information from? I'm getting it

:24:21. > :24:34.from the Internet, international Muse media.

:24:35. > :24:50.In the last five minutes, it has begun to harsh, there was a kind of

:24:51. > :24:56.military din armour but it is now hushed. It is difficult to get an

:24:57. > :25:00.overview. Before this evening, you may spend time in France but you are

:25:01. > :25:06.yourself not French, what has the atmosphere been like? Before

:25:07. > :25:09.tonight? I would say that it has been lovely, I have been here for

:25:10. > :25:14.ten days and it has been sunny and wonderful. Actually, unusually

:25:15. > :25:24.pleasant for this time of year. I have not had any sense of discomfort

:25:25. > :25:29.or sense of lack of security for my safety in any way. It has been a

:25:30. > :25:32.very positive autumn. There has been increased security throughout the

:25:33. > :25:38.year because of the events of January, Charlie Hebdo, it has not

:25:39. > :25:45.put you off visiting France, despite the grave issues we have seen? It is

:25:46. > :25:49.true, this is my fourth trip to France this year to perform, I come

:25:50. > :25:55.under a very nonpolitical circumstance, I come to perform. I

:25:56. > :26:00.do not necessarily perceive the cultural feeling through that

:26:01. > :26:05.filter. But you are right, it has been a difficult year for France,

:26:06. > :26:13.and we feel it a little bit, from my perspective, it has also been a very

:26:14. > :26:16.positive year culturally, for me. So it is an interesting question. I

:26:17. > :26:35.assume it is from the United States that you are visiting. Yes.

:26:36. > :26:44.You think there is a greater threat to Europe and the US? Good question,

:26:45. > :26:45.I do not think that I would be able to say that I feel

:26:46. > :26:48.I do not think that I would be able there is a greater threat, but I

:26:49. > :26:57.would say that there is a greater threat, but I

:26:58. > :27:03.familiar to me from 2001, in the United States. I had not felt that

:27:04. > :27:11.in Europe as an American until now. In that sense, I feel that there is

:27:12. > :27:14.something related, now, that I have not felt before, we will have to

:27:15. > :27:18.look at this in the light of day in order to know whether there is a

:27:19. > :27:20.greater threat, at this moment, I would say, yes I feel that. Thank

:27:21. > :27:33.you very much for speaking We were reporting a few moments ago

:27:34. > :27:39.that the police assault using the elite forces at the Bataclan concert

:27:40. > :27:46.theatre in the 11th arrondissement is now over and there were reports

:27:47. > :27:53.that the theatre-goers who had been held hostage had started to leave

:27:54. > :28:00.the theatre, however, we understand through Reuters newsagency, quoting

:28:01. > :28:07.the PFM television in France, that about 100 people are thought to have

:28:08. > :28:12.died inside the Bataclan. Earlier we had heard that 15 people had been

:28:13. > :28:16.shot, and then 100 people had been held hostage. -- BFM. It would

:28:17. > :28:27.appear that those figures were a lot higher.

:28:28. > :28:38.A shocking figure. Not surprising, if you recall, the events of the

:28:39. > :28:46.last few hours, the special unit of the French Armed Forces stormed the

:28:47. > :28:49.theatre very quickly, that was their decision, meaning that they were

:28:50. > :28:56.fearing, in any case, a huge number of casualties, because we are

:28:57. > :29:03.confronting... We are confronted with killers who are ready to die.

:29:04. > :29:12.There were reports of grenades within the theatre. You can imagine

:29:13. > :29:33.what a grenade does in a confined space. 100 dead is what the French

:29:34. > :29:37.newspaper is reporting. According to the AFP newsagency, three suspected

:29:38. > :29:40.jihadists, is how they are being described, certainly people who were

:29:41. > :29:45.armed, were killed when the elite police stormed the venue. Another

:29:46. > :29:53.newsagency has it as two armed attackers. It is a very great risk.

:29:54. > :30:05.A calculation that the authorities have to make. When they storm the

:30:06. > :30:13.building of this size. I think they knew that the killers were ready to

:30:14. > :30:17.die. It is not a traditional hostage crisis, when you negotiate, when you

:30:18. > :30:25.release people... Throughout the day... You can take hours, as you

:30:26. > :30:31.know. The fact that they decided to strike almost immediately meant that

:30:32. > :30:37.the situation was extremely grave. It is very difficult here to know

:30:38. > :30:40.how these different acts of violence across multiple locations, perhaps

:30:41. > :30:46.as many as... How do they fit together? We will know that in due

:30:47. > :30:55.time. Obviously it looks very coordinated. Did it take many

:30:56. > :31:06.different cells? Just one? Was there a trigger effect? You were with me

:31:07. > :31:09.in the studio earlier, while you have been outside, I assume you have

:31:10. > :31:14.been speaking with a lot of people in France. What have people been

:31:15. > :31:29.telling you? A sense of shock, some measures that France has not seen in

:31:30. > :31:32.decades, a state of emergency. I had a friend on an aeroplane who had

:31:33. > :31:46.just landed in Paris and the pilot said, we do not know whether you

:31:47. > :31:59.will be able to get out. All school trips are cancelled throughout

:32:00. > :32:03.France. We can now speak with Freedom Jackson, in her apartment

:32:04. > :32:09.just two doors away from the Bataclan. Thank you for joining us,

:32:10. > :32:14.you must have had the most terrifying evening, tell us what you

:32:15. > :32:23.have been going through. A lot of crying. I was making dinner, I heard

:32:24. > :32:26.a girl outside screaming, and a couple of men sounded like they were

:32:27. > :32:31.having a fight, sounded like the usual tried a night fighting in

:32:32. > :32:34.Paris, as it happens. It was really aggressive, I closed my window

:32:35. > :32:39.because I did not want to hear it, went to my room. I could hear a girl

:32:40. > :32:46.screaming for help, the last thing I heard her say was screaming for a

:32:47. > :32:50.man called Felipe and I heard a bang, and I thought it was not a

:32:51. > :32:53.gunshot because that is not really happen. I was very scared because

:32:54. > :33:00.people began screaming, people were shouting. Sounded really aggressive

:33:01. > :33:04.outside. I stayed in Myron, spoke with my friends, I have only been

:33:05. > :33:10.living here for a couple of months, I am 18. It is a change for me. I

:33:11. > :33:15.was on the telephone to my friend, he could hear the rounds of gunfire,

:33:16. > :33:20.while I was on the phone to me. He told me, you cannot leave your room

:33:21. > :33:32.at all. Just after that, looked at venues, and saw that it was all

:33:33. > :33:35.happening next door. There was loads of gunfire again. Loads of people

:33:36. > :33:42.screaming. I decided of gunfire again. Loads of people

:33:43. > :33:56.to go and stay in my neighbour's flat, because I was too scared to

:33:57. > :34:02.stay alone. What were you able to see outside the window, you are not

:34:03. > :34:06.very far from the Bataclan. This is where the hostagetaking was

:34:07. > :34:11.happening. You can see the police surrounding the area, the police are

:34:12. > :34:30.wearing protective outfits, with Shields on their face. They are

:34:31. > :34:34.circling the building. We have heard that there has been a hundred people

:34:35. > :34:52.who have died as a result of that siege. The advice we are hearing

:34:53. > :34:56.from the mayor of Paris is that nobody should be going anywhere, I

:34:57. > :35:04.should assume you will be following that closely? I'm quite happy on the

:35:05. > :35:09.sixth floor, in the sky. Not being anywhere near anyone. I do not want

:35:10. > :35:14.to go anywhere near what is going on. I'm hoping that tomorrow I can

:35:15. > :35:20.stay with my aunt for the weekend, going to Versailles, because I do

:35:21. > :35:25.not want to be so close to it. Perfectly understandable, Freedom,

:35:26. > :35:34.thank you for speaking with us, stay with that neighbour, keep safe. The

:35:35. > :35:37.latest that we are hearing. 100 people are thought to have died

:35:38. > :35:42.inside the Bataclan, they have gone there, busy Friday night, packed

:35:43. > :35:48.venue, to watch a band from California, a rock band, and we

:35:49. > :35:54.understand that attackers, possibly two, maybe three, maybe even more,

:35:55. > :35:57.stormed the building, shots were fired, and within the last few

:35:58. > :36:03.minutes, really, we have heard that those that survived that attack have

:36:04. > :36:09.been making their way out that concert Hall. The French president,

:36:10. > :36:12.Francois Hollande, was on television a little earlier tonight to tell the

:36:13. > :36:20.nation that terrorist attacks were underway. On an unprecedented scale.

:36:21. > :36:27.He announced a state of emergency and a closure of the borders of the

:36:28. > :36:31.country. TRANSLATION: To did decisions will be taken, a state of

:36:32. > :36:35.emergency, certain places will be shut off, traffic may be banned from

:36:36. > :36:38.some places and searches will be conducted across the whole Paris

:36:39. > :36:42.region. -- two decisions will be taken. A state of emergency will be

:36:43. > :36:45.declared across the whole territory. The second decision I

:36:46. > :36:50.have taken it to close the borders, we must make certain that nobody is

:36:51. > :36:53.going to enter to carry out any acts, whatever they may be, and make

:36:54. > :36:59.sure that those that have committed the crimes will be apprehended,

:37:00. > :37:02.should they leave the territory. That was the French president,

:37:03. > :37:09.Francois Hollande, speaking a little earlier, to the French people on

:37:10. > :37:12.television. We are getting unconfirmed reports... I must stress

:37:13. > :37:19.these are unconfirmed reports... From social media... That the camp

:37:20. > :37:24.known as the jungle in Calais, which is home to many migrants trying to

:37:25. > :37:31.make their way across the Channel, that that camp is on fire. -- The

:37:32. > :37:35.Jungle. Is that this could be a revenge attack. I would urge you to

:37:36. > :37:48.take that with a huge amount of caution. -- the suspicion is that

:37:49. > :37:59.Social media suggesting that the Jungle camp in Calais is on fire,

:38:00. > :38:03.and it is only a suggestion, that it is a possible revenge attack.

:38:04. > :38:07.and it is only a suggestion, that it also just reading an social media,

:38:08. > :38:09.Reuters saying that the French Foreign Ministry is saying that

:38:10. > :38:14.airports will remain open, that flights and trains will continue

:38:15. > :38:17.running, which is slightly confusing, because we have also

:38:18. > :38:23.heard that the borders are closing, the land borders, supposedly. We

:38:24. > :38:29.will need a full explanation of how flights and trains can keep running

:38:30. > :38:35.across borders unless these are just internal flights and trains. We need

:38:36. > :38:39.to have that explained to us. Let's speak to Hugh Schofield who joins us

:38:40. > :38:49.from Paris now. And a reminder that you were 200 metres from the

:38:50. > :38:54.Bataclan concert Hall. We understand that the siege is over, but with a

:38:55. > :38:59.high number of casualties. I don't know anything about casualties, and

:39:00. > :39:05.as I speak, we are waiting at a police line for the prosecutor Paris

:39:06. > :39:09.to come and talk to us, and he will give us the detail of what has

:39:10. > :39:14.happened. I know that there are ports circulating that you are

:39:15. > :39:19.seeing more quickly than I am of a high number of casualties, and I

:39:20. > :39:25.can't comment on that. There is certainly the sense that this is

:39:26. > :39:28.over here, because the atmosphere is more relaxed, and a plainclothes

:39:29. > :39:41.policeman is saying that they will be a press conference coming up. I

:39:42. > :39:46.understand that officials are in the area touring the places where the

:39:47. > :39:49.attacks have happened and talking to police, and I'm hoping that one of

:39:50. > :39:56.them will be the prosecutor and might talk to us. One does sense

:39:57. > :40:03.that it is over, and now it is a question of working out what had

:40:04. > :40:07.happened, what the toll is, and then the big questions about what this

:40:08. > :40:11.all means. Tell us what you're seeing now, because obviously the

:40:12. > :40:17.mayor of Paris sometime ago advised people across the whole of the Paris

:40:18. > :40:21.region, huge area of France, to stay indoors, but people who are

:40:22. > :40:27.trapped, trying to get out of the Bataclan concert theatre, they have

:40:28. > :40:30.to get home. In the bars all around here, you can see that there are

:40:31. > :40:36.people behind the shutters just waiting. I think in practice it is

:40:37. > :40:41.loosening up and people are coming out and moving on now. The immediate

:40:42. > :40:48.area around Bataclan is still very much locked down, but we are quite a

:40:49. > :40:57.way back now. They pushed it back, and I think that those words to

:40:58. > :41:00.people in the Paris region, to stay at home, was very much in the heat

:41:01. > :41:04.of the moment when nobody knew what was happening. I think perhaps

:41:05. > :41:09.already they will feel that something terrible has happened, but

:41:10. > :41:14.that it has happened, and there aren't others on the loose, and this

:41:15. > :41:19.sense of siege will ease off. I can't really judge where we are in

:41:20. > :41:21.that process right now. They think they have tagged all the

:41:22. > :41:25.terrorists, and therefore what has been completed, or whether they

:41:26. > :41:33.think more people are on the loose. I just don't know.

:41:34. > :41:38.Hugh, thank you very much. Lucy Williamson is another one of our

:41:39. > :41:42.correspondents in Paris tonight. You also not very far from the Bataclan

:41:43. > :41:51.concert Hall. What are you hearing? The Bataclan concert Hall is behind

:41:52. > :41:55.us and we know that the assault is finished now. We're getting reports

:41:56. > :42:00.that some attackers have been killed in the assault, but we are also

:42:01. > :42:05.getting early reports from the French news agency here that maybe

:42:06. > :42:09.100 hostages have been killed in the attack here, so we are awaiting

:42:10. > :42:15.confirmation, but if true, that will be a very to build for France to

:42:16. > :42:19.swallow, and a very difficult thing for the president who we believe is

:42:20. > :42:24.touring this area at the moment, or shortly, a very difficult thing for

:42:25. > :42:31.him to overcome and to try and instil a sense of security going

:42:32. > :42:37.forward. A huge risk, even when elite forces are sent in to try to

:42:38. > :42:42.end a siege like this, it must be a hugely difficult call for the

:42:43. > :42:50.authorities to know what to do. Sieges like this are no tourists are

:42:51. > :42:56.difficult, trying to safeguard hostages' lives whilst diminish the

:42:57. > :43:00.threat. We don't know at what stage the casualties denied happened or

:43:01. > :43:04.who was responsible, so I think as with everything that has happened

:43:05. > :43:09.here tonight, it is far too early to get a forensics sense of how things

:43:10. > :43:12.unfolded. At the moment, the authorities here are still at the

:43:13. > :43:17.stage of counting the dead, trying to lock down the rest of the

:43:18. > :43:19.capital, and making sure they have got everybody they can in the

:43:20. > :43:23.network who has carried out these attacks.

:43:24. > :43:28.We will pause for a second, because there is a suggestion that... It was

:43:29. > :43:34.being reported an social media that there were pictures of a fire at the

:43:35. > :43:39.camp known as the Jungle in Calais. It does appear that these were old

:43:40. > :43:44.pictures that came from some time ago, and I did warn that we needed

:43:45. > :43:49.to treat those reports with utmost care, because we needed to have it

:43:50. > :43:54.confirmed, and it does appear that those pictures were old and not

:43:55. > :43:59.pertinent to tonight or anything that has been happening in Paris. So

:44:00. > :44:07.we will set those to one side. A reminder, though, that the police

:44:08. > :44:12.are appealing an social media for tonight's, for anyone with any

:44:13. > :44:18.information about any of the attacks on the seven locations we know of so

:44:19. > :44:21.far to contact them. Clearly there are multiple eyewitnesses to what

:44:22. > :44:29.has happened, because there seems to have been a multifaceted and

:44:30. > :44:38.coordinated attack. Lucy Williamson is still with us live from Paris.

:44:39. > :44:41.And now, Lucy, the country is in lockdown, a state of emergency and

:44:42. > :44:47.the borders are supposed to be closed. What is that going to mean

:44:48. > :44:50.to you believe France? I think it was resident Hoiland's initial

:44:51. > :44:54.reaction to a situation that very few people understood tonight. As

:44:55. > :44:58.you said, he said that France was facing a series of terrorist attacks

:44:59. > :45:04.that were unprecedented here, and as you said, he called for a state of

:45:05. > :45:07.emergency, announced a state of emergency and also an assault on the

:45:08. > :45:13.building behind me, and yes, he has said that the borders of the country

:45:14. > :45:19.will be closed to prevent the attackers fleeing. And he also

:45:20. > :45:23.called for military reinforcements. Since the Charlie Hebdo events of

:45:24. > :45:27.January, there was a greater presence of security on the streets.

:45:28. > :45:33.Will that be ratcheted up now, then? I think if the number of dead

:45:34. > :45:38.that we are hearing here is confirmed, this is really a game

:45:39. > :45:41.changer for France, and something that will call for really quite

:45:42. > :45:48.radical perhaps thinking on how France can protect itself after the

:45:49. > :45:51.Charlie Hebdo attacks there was security, security was ramped up all

:45:52. > :45:56.across vulnerable sites, but the trouble with attacks like this is

:45:57. > :46:02.that often happen on soft targets, restaurant, a concert hall, places

:46:03. > :46:04.that are difficult to protect nationwide, so I think that will be

:46:05. > :46:08.the challenge facing the government in the days to come. After Charlie

:46:09. > :46:14.Hebdo, there were a couple of days where the gunmen in those shootings

:46:15. > :46:22.were on the run. We appear to have multiple attackers who the police

:46:23. > :46:29.need to trace. The city is going to be a difficult place to be the next

:46:30. > :46:33.days. That's right. There are several attackers that police are

:46:34. > :46:38.trying to find the moment, and obviously a great deal of fear in

:46:39. > :46:41.Paris as their whereabouts remain unknown. It raises very painful

:46:42. > :46:45.memories of the attacks ten month ago when Charlie Hebdo was attacked,

:46:46. > :46:52.the siege of the Jewish supermarket and the tense days but unfolded as

:46:53. > :46:55.police tried to chase and find everyone involved in those attacks,

:46:56. > :47:01.and I think the next few days will be very worrying one the people here

:47:02. > :47:06.in Paris and further afield. Is a great deal of noise behind you.

:47:07. > :47:10.I just want to make sure that you are OK, you are safe, you can maybe

:47:11. > :47:15.turn around and tell us what you conceive. I'm not exactly sure what

:47:16. > :47:20.is going on behind me, but there are great deal of onlookers who have

:47:21. > :47:24.gathered here, and I think this may be that a skirmish has broken out

:47:25. > :47:27.the onlookers or perhaps with the police, but there are a great deal

:47:28. > :47:31.of security forces here and some onlookers here on the street late at

:47:32. > :47:34.night. Lucy, we will let you go and

:47:35. > :47:39.investigate what is happening around you. For the moment, thank you very

:47:40. > :47:44.much. Lucy Williamson near the Bataclan concert Theatre where that

:47:45. > :47:53.assault by police led to a number of bebop being held hostage -- a number

:47:54. > :47:59.of people who were being held hostage and a number of casualties.

:48:00. > :48:08.A man called Ben Grimes was at the belly keep restaurant when it was

:48:09. > :48:16.attacked. We thought it was some people in cars with firearms. It was

:48:17. > :48:30.a lot of people, and we would being led out by police. There were a lot

:48:31. > :48:35.of dead people, it was pretty difficult. I was at the back of the

:48:36. > :48:37.bar so I couldn't see anything, I just heard the gunshots, and people

:48:38. > :48:55.drop to the ground. just heard the gunshots, and people

:48:56. > :49:04.up in the bar because I had to protect my wife. As we were led out,

:49:05. > :49:06.it looks like there was still at least seven dead people outside. The

:49:07. > :49:12.amount of least seven dead people outside. The

:49:13. > :49:22.was huge. There were loads of people hanging outside having treatment.

:49:23. > :49:29.was huge. There were loads of people was really full, in the bar, and we

:49:30. > :49:30.were lucky to be all-weather back. Ben Grimes was in one of the

:49:31. > :49:34.restaurants that Ben Grimes was in one of the

:49:35. > :49:37.earlier this evening. And the President of the United States,

:49:38. > :49:43.Barack Obama, has been talking about this as well. Those who think that

:49:44. > :49:47.they can terrorise the people of France or the values that

:49:48. > :49:47.they can terrorise the people of for are wrong. The American people

:49:48. > :49:55.drawstring from the French people's for are wrong. The American people

:49:56. > :49:58.commitment to life. The pursuit of happiness, and we are reminded in

:49:59. > :50:11.this time of liberty, a happiness, and we are reminded in

:50:12. > :50:21.French people care deeply about and values that we share. And those

:50:22. > :50:26.value s go far beyond any act of terrorism.

:50:27. > :50:30.value s go far beyond any act of condolences and words of support to

:50:31. > :50:31.the French people. I world affairs correspondent Richard Galpin is

:50:32. > :50:36.here. correspondent Richard Galpin is

:50:37. > :50:47.and look back correspondent Richard Galpin is

:50:48. > :50:52.multifaceted attack by a number of people in several locations in Paris

:50:53. > :50:55.tonight. They are saying that this is the worst attack Paris has

:50:56. > :51:06.suffered in decades, perhaps even going back as far as the Second

:51:07. > :51:09.World War. What we know is that at least a hundred people have been

:51:10. > :51:15.killed, and this concert was packed tonight. There have also been

:51:16. > :51:17.attacks outside the Stade de France where the president was attending a

:51:18. > :51:21.football match between France and Germany. Then win over sure that

:51:22. > :51:24.there have Germany. Then win over sure that

:51:25. > :51:28.restaurant and a bar and possibly other locations as well. According

:51:29. > :51:33.to some reports that have been attacks in at least seven different

:51:34. > :51:33.locations, and standing back from it, what

:51:34. > :51:35.locations, and standing back from this was

:51:36. > :51:45.locations, and standing back from they saw the gunman opening fire,

:51:46. > :51:48.locations, and standing back from the magazines then ran out, they

:51:49. > :51:49.locations, and standing back from weapons, fired again on several

:51:50. > :51:55.occasions, so these are people weapons, fired again on several

:51:56. > :51:58.doing. And came well equipped for the violence that they were intent

:51:59. > :52:03.on perpetrating. You mentioned the death toll. A Paris City Hall

:52:04. > :52:09.official being quoted by Reuters is saying that about 100 people were

:52:10. > :52:14.killed at the Bataclan concert Hall, and the belief is that about 40

:52:15. > :52:17.other people died in the other locations where we have seen these

:52:18. > :52:23.attacks tonight. There have also been reports that two, possibly

:52:24. > :52:32.three attackers were killed by this elite police unit that went in to

:52:33. > :52:40.try to bring an end to this siege. This leaves France with an enormous

:52:41. > :52:44.concern over what they do now, in the next few days. We saw the

:52:45. > :52:50.reaction in terms of increased security in the days and weeks after

:52:51. > :52:52.Charlie Hebdo earlier in the year. And more immediately, there are

:52:53. > :52:57.still several gunmen still on the loose. As you say, maybe two or

:52:58. > :53:02.three have been killed at the Bataclan, but the other gunman, we

:53:03. > :53:05.assume that they are still around, in Paris, and the police will be

:53:06. > :53:09.doing everything they can to try and track them down, but the question of

:53:10. > :53:13.security in Paris for the next few days is going to be absolutely huge.

:53:14. > :53:18.And one thing we also have to remember is that after the Charlie

:53:19. > :53:19.Hebdo attacks in Paris back in January which were absolutely

:53:20. > :53:24.horrific at the time, President Hollande promised they would improve

:53:25. > :53:30.security to prevent these kind of attacks happening again, and here we

:53:31. > :53:31.are nine or ten months later, and we have had an even more serious

:53:32. > :53:46.attack. We need early reports to be

:53:47. > :53:57.confirmed but there is a lot of information coming in. Charlie Pitt

:53:58. > :54:01.is a freelance photographer, and he was only a few yards from where

:54:02. > :54:16.people were shot at a bar. 75 metres from a cafe, it was hit about

:54:17. > :54:20.9:10pm, I had been to a supermarket. I got 30 metres, and then I thought

:54:21. > :54:28.it was a firecracker to start off with and it went on, it got louder.

:54:29. > :54:32.Everybody said, dive for cover, they realised it was gunfire, it went on

:54:33. > :54:33.for a minute, then there was a pause for 15