Episode 4

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:00:32. > :01:02.# Is heaven a place where nothing ever happens?

:01:02. > :01:11.# Is it too much to ask to disbelieve in everything?

:01:11. > :01:18.# I have seen the birthplace of the universe

:01:18. > :01:30.# I have seen their records move in reverse

:01:30. > :01:36.# If you're exiled by all the cruel tongues

:01:36. > :01:51.# A tapping pain of madness running through their veins

:01:51. > :02:08.# I have seen the birthplace of the universe

:02:08. > :02:27.# I have seen their records move in reverse

:02:27. > :02:48.# Is heaven a place where nothing ever happens?

:02:48. > :02:57.# Is it too much to ask to disbelieve in everything?

:02:57. > :03:04.# I have seen the birthplace of the universe

:03:04. > :03:12.# I have seen their records move in reverse

:03:12. > :03:43.# I have seen their records move in reverse. #

:03:43. > :04:06.We have a room jam packed with amazingly talented people. Welcome

:04:06. > :04:15.to the show, Polica. All the way from Texas, a young

:04:15. > :04:28.talented person, Kacey Musgraves. From Miami, Cecile McLorin Salvant.

:04:28. > :04:40.From Northampton, our very own, VV Brown. Now we have Jake Bugg.

:04:40. > :04:43.# Step out the door 2am yesterday

:04:43. > :04:46.# Me and my friend keeping the night aflame

:04:46. > :04:48.# And as were walking in the clear night blind

:04:48. > :04:51.# Two guys come up and take him out of sight

:04:51. > :04:58.# They takes his money and they run and all I can do is watch them go

:04:58. > :05:02.# His hands are round his nose His blood is on his clothes

:05:02. > :05:09.# Sometimes you feel you're up against the world

:05:09. > :05:16.# This life It seems to bring you to your knees

:05:16. > :05:22.# You try, you bleed then finally you breathe

:05:22. > :05:25.# She was the dream that kept me up at night

:05:25. > :05:27.# I couldn't face the world without her eyes

:05:27. > :05:29.# I never knew it till she disappeared

:05:30. > :05:32.# My life would be a bunch of souvenirs

:05:32. > :05:35.# All I know is what it is Her heart, she doubles up

:05:35. > :05:37.# She packs her bag and then she runs

:05:37. > :05:49.# Sometimes you feel you're up against the world

:05:49. > :05:55.# This life It seems to bring you to your knees

:05:55. > :06:15.# You try, you bleed then finally you breathe

:06:15. > :06:25.# Sometimes you feel you're up against the world

:06:25. > :06:31.# This life It seems to bring you to your knees

:06:31. > :06:33.# You try, you bleed then finally you breathe. #

:06:33. > :06:54.The wonderful Jake Bugg! His new album has that one. She has a record

:06:54. > :06:58.and a completely direction all together. She's very talented and

:06:58. > :07:13.I'm delighted she is here. She is VV Brown.

:07:13. > :07:31.# Across the water to another world

:07:31. > :07:36.# In the middle of the night I see you go

:07:36. > :07:40.# We have grown apart in two lonely souls

:07:40. > :07:54.# Don't patronise me I'm not your clown

:07:54. > :07:59.# Don't cause me suffering It's over now

:07:59. > :09:36.# Hold my soul now inside your box

:09:36. > :10:07.# Not the apple of my eye # Don't patronise me

:10:07. > :10:09.# I'm not your clown # Don't cause me suffering

:10:09. > :10:27.# It's over now # CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

:10:27. > :10:32.I will be having a moment with her later at the pinot. Now at the pinot

:10:32. > :10:36.is somebody who all the big shots in the jazz world have said she is

:10:37. > :10:46.wonderful. Who is she? It is Cecile McLorin Salvant.

:10:46. > :10:52.# When life seems full of clouds and rain

:10:52. > :10:57.# And I am filled with nothing but pain

:10:57. > :11:07.# Who soothes my thumpin' Bumpin' brain?

:11:07. > :11:33.# When winter comes with snow and sleet

:11:33. > :11:37.# "Here's 25 cents Go ahead and get somethin' to eat"?

:11:37. > :11:52.# I ain't never done nothin' to nobody

:11:52. > :12:02.# I ain't never got nothin' from nobody, no time

:12:02. > :12:08.# And until I get somethin' from somebody

:12:08. > :12:27.# I will never do nothing for nobody, no time. #

:12:27. > :12:30.# When winter comes with snow and sleet

:12:30. > :12:34.# And me with hunger and cold feet who says

:12:34. > :12:41.# "Here's 25 cents Go ahead and get somethin' to eat"?

:12:41. > :13:05.# When I was in that railroad wreck and thought

:13:05. > :13:50.# I ain't never done nothin' to nobody

:13:50. > :13:58.# I ain't never got nothin' from nobody, no time

:13:58. > :14:08.# And until I get somethin' from somebody

:14:08. > :14:25.# I will never do nothing for nobody, no time. #

:14:25. > :14:48.Thank you Cecile McLorin Salvant. We'll enjoy much more of her later

:14:48. > :14:52.on. She's marvellous. Now, a man has sat at the table whom I'm longing to

:14:52. > :14:56.catch up with. He's tremendously talented. He's only seated at the

:14:56. > :15:04.moment. There's not a single drunk in front of him. And completely

:15:05. > :15:10.unaided I will be chatting to Nicky. APPLAUSE

:15:10. > :15:15.Now, new record, over 20 years since you released your first record.

:15:15. > :15:19.Indeed. 11 albums on, have you changed the way you approach music

:15:19. > :15:24.now? I'm exactly the same inside, but I just try to control that rage

:15:24. > :15:32.and anger and try to make it a bit more grown up. Focus it more?

:15:32. > :15:37.Indeed, yeah. Does the music you like changed? I think the stuff you

:15:37. > :15:44.like from 16 to 22 stays with you forever be that the Clash or

:15:44. > :15:49.Morrissey or echo and the bunnimen, I think Jake is amazing. Are

:15:50. > :15:53.different things also outside of music that inspire you now? Yeah,

:15:53. > :16:02.they always have done, books or paintings or magazines or anything

:16:02. > :16:06.really. Clothes. Very nice. Rush jacket is marvellous. Ive was going

:16:06. > :16:11.to talk about your painting and books and things. Before that, we've

:16:11. > :16:16.got a lovely bit of footage which we've found. There was a programme

:16:16. > :16:19.called Top of the Pops. What an amazing programme. Life was so easy

:16:19. > :17:07.then. Here it is. APPLAUSE

:17:07. > :17:13.That was the most ever complaints on Top of the Pops. Really, why?

:17:13. > :17:20.17,000, I think. Well done. There was fire and we looked like extras

:17:20. > :17:26.from apop lips now. Which we thought was -- Apocalypse now. Which we

:17:26. > :17:35.thought was brilliant. Here we are, back in the day. You tend to look

:17:35. > :17:39.really ugly upside down. Now, that balaclava, you don't have it? Yeah

:17:39. > :17:48.it's on the teapot in the studio in Cardiff. I had a -- I had to Tippex

:17:48. > :17:50.James' name on it before the show. Having a mask and writing somebody's

:17:50. > :18:02.James' name on it before the show. name on it, that's nice. Are you a

:18:02. > :18:09.great hoarder? I'm the archivist of the band. Mick Jones in the Clark

:18:09. > :18:15.great hoarder? I'm the archivist of collects stuff. My wife makes me

:18:15. > :18:25.throw that stuff away. Who wears the trousers. The Subutio went out last

:18:25. > :18:31.week. Many people will write in about that. Would you like an

:18:31. > :18:36.exhibition, like David Bowie where the person becomes an art work,

:18:36. > :18:40.about yourself or yourself and the Manics? I have an exhibition of my

:18:40. > :18:45.own work next year. I would like to have one for Richie, because he was

:18:45. > :18:48.one of the greatest and most intelligent rock stars of our

:18:48. > :18:55.generation. A great tribute too. Indeed. You've worked with a lot of

:18:55. > :18:59.great people. Richard Hawley is one and Lucy Rose. Lucy has flown over

:18:59. > :19:04.to Las Vegas and cancelled a few gigs to do it tonight. Been real

:19:04. > :19:09.live blessed. It's a lovely record. It's a mellower record. Very mellow,

:19:09. > :19:13.delicate. Very good to have you hear. We thank you for joining us.

:19:13. > :19:16.We hear more from Manic Street Preachers in a moment.

:19:16. > :19:19.Lovely to see you. APPLAUSE

:19:19. > :19:25.In fact, when I said we'll be seeing more of them in a moment, there they

:19:25. > :19:29.are. They're preparing themselves. Before we see them, we're going to

:19:29. > :19:50.go to this corner and welcome back into the studio Polica.

:19:50. > :19:57.# So are we made just to fight all our lives?

:19:57. > :20:11.# Hold back my hair Why you kiss my face?

:20:11. > :20:18.# When I lay my body down I erase your place

:20:19. > :20:25.# Hold back my hair Why you kiss my face?

:20:25. > :20:33.# When I lay my body down I erase your place

:20:33. > :20:47.# Heard my name and it changed that day

:20:47. > :20:53.# So are we made just to fight all our lives?

:20:54. > :21:07.# So are we made just to fight all our lives?

:21:07. > :21:24.# Chain my name, chain my name beside you

:21:24. > :21:29.# So are we made just to fight all our lives?

:21:29. > :21:45.# Heard my name and it changed that day

:21:45. > :21:51.# So are we made just to fight all our lives?

:21:52. > :22:05.# So are we made just to fight all our lives?

:22:05. > :22:15.# Chain my name, chain my name beside you

:22:15. > :22:48.# So are we made just to fight all our lives?

:22:48. > :22:52.# Chain my name, chain my name chain my name

:22:52. > :23:02.# So are we made just to fight all our lives?

:23:02. > :23:06.# Chain my name, chain my name chain my name

:23:06. > :23:32.Thank you, Polica! Chain My Name. Great. We've got a room full amazing

:23:32. > :23:36.people. We have, if you were watching our New Year's Eve show,

:23:36. > :23:41.you will have been impressed with the amazing Jake Bugg. Was it a good

:23:42. > :23:43.New Year's Eve? Yeah, it was,. You have a band sounding great, where

:23:43. > :23:47.New Year's Eve? Yeah, it was,. You did you get that drummer from? My

:23:47. > :23:52.drummer left his passport in Chicago. We had to get someone in.

:23:52. > :23:55.Peter played on the second album, so thought get him in. Is it fun

:23:55. > :24:03.playing with these fellows? It's nice playing with people, same age

:24:03. > :24:09.group, you know! Exactly! One of the great drummers of all time, Pete

:24:09. > :24:13.Thomas. APPLAUSE

:24:13. > :24:17.our next artist, it's her first time on the show. She is one of the

:24:17. > :24:19.monstrous new country stars. She was number two in the American charts.

:24:19. > :24:33.It's Kacey Musgraves. # If you ain't got two kids by 21

:24:33. > :24:39.You're probably gonna die alone # Least that's

:24:39. > :24:44.what tradition told you # And it don't matter

:24:44. > :24:48.if you don't believe # Come Sunday morning, you best

:24:48. > :24:52.be there in the front row # Mama's hooked on Mary Kay

:24:52. > :25:12.Brother's hooked on Mary Jane # Daddy's hooked on Mary

:25:12. > :25:17.two doors down # Just like dust, we settle

:25:17. > :25:29.in this town # On this broken merry go round

:25:29. > :25:34.and round and round we go # Where it stops nobody knows

:25:34. > :25:41.and it ain't slowin' down # We think the first time's

:25:41. > :25:52.good enough # So, we hold on

:25:52. > :25:55.to high school love # Sayin' we won't end up

:25:55. > :26:00.like our parents # Ain't what you want

:26:00. > :26:06.It's what you know # Just happy in the shoes

:26:06. > :26:12.you're wearin' # Same checks we're always cashin'

:26:12. > :26:22.to buy a little more distraction # Cos mama's hooked on Mary Kay

:26:22. > :26:27.Brother's hooked on Mary Jane # Daddy's hooked on Mary

:26:28. > :26:33.two doors down # Just like dust

:26:33. > :26:44.We settle in this town # On this broken merry go round

:26:44. > :26:50.and round and round we go # Where it stops nobody knows

:26:50. > :26:57.and it ain't slowin' down # Just like dust

:26:57. > :27:20.We settle in this town # Jack and Jill went up the hill

:27:20. > :27:40.Jack burned out on booze and pills # Mary just don't give a damn

:27:40. > :28:06.no more. # Kacey Musgraves! Merry Go'Round, you

:28:06. > :28:11.heard it here first. If you had been listening to my radio show, you

:28:11. > :28:14.would have met her there as well. As promised, now joined by Lucy Rose,

:28:14. > :28:25.Manic Street Preachers. # Can't keep on struggling

:28:25. > :29:28.when you're alone # It won't leave

:29:28. > :29:39.It won't give up # It won't leave

:29:39. > :29:50.It won't give up # Can't keep on struggling

:29:50. > :31:18.when you're alone # It won't leave

:31:18. > :31:52.It won't give up # It won't leave

:31:52. > :32:04.It won't give up # I shake it off

:32:04. > :33:05.as I fall down to the ground # Belly flop

:33:05. > :33:10.into a swimming pool of sound # I shake it off

:33:10. > :33:27.as I fall down to the ground # I shake it off

:33:27. > :33:53.as I fall down to the ground # Belly flop into

:33:53. > :33:58.a swimming pool of sound # I don't really care

:33:58. > :34:19.what's going on # Forget about the right

:34:19. > :34:25.and all the wrongs # Don't whatever you feel

:34:25. > :34:31.Do what you like # We're underwater

:34:31. > :34:38.Free and sanctified # I shake it off

:34:38. > :34:40.as I fall down to the ground # Belly flop into

:34:41. > :34:46.a swimming pool of sound # I shake it off

:34:46. > :36:11.as I fall down to the ground # Belly flop into a swimming pool

:36:11. > :37:38.of sound VV Brown. Thank you! Now along this

:37:38. > :38:01.way, we welcome back the wonderful Jake Bugg.

:38:01. > :38:59.# Is that what you hoped you would find?

:38:59. > :40:46.# Maybe you're the rainbow. # There's no song without love.

:40:46. > :40:50.# With your eyes shut. # You cry in your bed.

:40:50. > :40:53.# Is that what you wanted? # Songs about love.

:40:53. > :40:58.# Is that what you hoped you would find?

:40:58. > :41:00.# Well, it's burning inside. # But a song about love's not

:41:00. > :41:12.enough. # So what do you want?

:41:12. > :41:18.# For what are you needing? # Songs about memories that hide.

:41:18. > :41:29.# And then shelter your mind. # Like a constant reminder.

:41:29. > :41:40.# I just want to find where you are. # I just want to find where you are.

:41:40. > :42:07.APPLAUSE Jake Bugg. A few moments ago, there was a person I now meet

:42:07. > :42:13.at the pinot, yes, it's VV Brown. Lovely to have you here on the show.

:42:13. > :42:17.Thank you. Back on the show, actually. It is five years since you

:42:17. > :42:22.were last on. Yes. You've been doing a lot of things. Yes, I've been

:42:23. > :42:28.doing a lot of fashion. I set up my own business, a sustainable fashion

:42:28. > :42:34.shore. Then after shake -- store. Then I set up my own record company,

:42:34. > :42:40.which led me to making this new record. It's called Samson and

:42:40. > :42:46.Delilah. Yes. A departure from your last record. It's like an 80s

:42:46. > :42:50.electrosound. Yes, I feel there's been a transformation. I've been

:42:50. > :43:00.soaking up so much music and music that I didn't know much about

:43:00. > :43:05.deeply, BJORK, I'm a huge fan of. Grace Jones. Andrewy Lennox. Yes,

:43:05. > :43:10.absolutely. She's an incredible artist. I remember seeing her at the

:43:10. > :43:14.woman of the world event and she's so inspiring because she's such a

:43:14. > :43:21.strong woman. Her music is incredible. So I was, yeah, heavily

:43:21. > :43:26.inspired by her. Do you ever since of her music? I love Sweet Dreams.

:43:26. > :43:34.Would you give us some of that? We'll love to hear some.

:43:34. > :43:49.# Sweet dreams are made of this # Who am I to disagree

:43:49. > :43:54.# Travelled the world and the Seven Seas

:43:54. > :44:11.# Everybody's looking for something # Some of them want to use you

:44:11. > :44:14.# Some of them want to be used by you

:44:14. > :44:18.# Oohhh # Ooohhh

:44:18. > :44:26.# Sweet dreams of made of these # Who am I to disagree

:44:26. > :44:35.# I travelled the world and the Seven Seas

:44:35. > :44:41.# Everybody's looking for something # Ooohhh

:44:41. > :45:02.# Keep your head up # Keep your head up

:45:02. > :45:11.# I want you to keep your head up # Keep your head up

:45:11. > :45:29.# Keep your head up # APPLAUSE

:45:29. > :45:38.Privilege Andrew honour to have in the studio this evening, VV Brown.

:45:38. > :45:42.-- privilege and an honour to have her in the studio this evening, VV

:45:42. > :45:54.Brown. Let's welcome back that marvellous group, Polica.

:45:54. > :45:59.# No-one seems to stay They just leave you cold

:45:59. > :46:01.# No-one seems to know why your love grows old

:46:01. > :46:04.# Chasing and wasting for our own desires we

:46:04. > :46:06.# Love what we need until your need grows tired

:46:06. > :46:08.# No-one seems to stay They just leave you cold

:46:08. > :46:10.# No-one seems to know why your love grows old

:46:10. > :46:13.# Chasing and wasting for our own desires

:46:13. > :46:16.# Love what we need until your need grows tired

:46:16. > :46:24.# It's taking me too long for this debt to drop

:46:24. > :46:37.# I need money I need money

:46:37. > :46:43.# It's taking me too long for this debt to drop

:46:43. > :47:43.# All that he does I can I can

:47:43. > :48:06.# All that he does I can I can

:48:06. > :48:08.# No-one seems to stay They just leave you cold

:48:08. > :48:10.# No-one seems to know why your love grows old

:48:10. > :48:13.# Chasing and wasting for our own desires

:48:13. > :48:14.# We love what we need until your need grows tired

:48:14. > :48:18.# No-one seems to stay They just leave you cold

:48:18. > :48:37.# No-one seems to know why your love grows old

:48:37. > :48:56.# Chasing and wasting for our own desires

:48:56. > :49:03.# We love what we love until the love grows tired

:49:03. > :49:13.# Chasing and wasting for our own desires

:49:13. > :49:23.# We love what we love until the love grows tired

:49:23. > :49:28.# You love what you love until I grow tired. #

:49:28. > :53:45.Cecile McLorin Salvant with Womanchild. Nice pinot solo as well.

:53:45. > :53:48.When a lovely -- nice pinot solo as well.

:53:48. > :53:56.What a lovely band they are. If anybody wondered, probably a lot

:53:56. > :54:02.of you saying, what was Felonious Monk's middle name? Does anybody

:54:02. > :54:05.know? Yes, sphere! Anybody called Sphere? No, it is unusual. That's my

:54:05. > :54:07.point. It's an unusual room this evening filled with extraordinary

:54:07. > :54:18.people. It is Jake Bugg! # The wind is beating on my window

:54:18. > :54:21.I haven't slept all night They must be buzzing in the mind

:54:21. > :54:25.Bees in the hive # Tell me when the morning arrives

:54:25. > :54:28.This place is just not for me # I say it all the time

:54:28. > :54:31.My friends they just ignore me # Waiting on your line

:54:31. > :54:36.for the slumville sunrise # This place is just not for me

:54:36. > :54:55.I say it all the time # My face upon the concrete

:54:55. > :55:03.The dirt is in my mouth # I clench my fist and feet

:55:03. > :55:06.I try to cry out loud # Make a sound

:55:06. > :55:08.Something is keeping me down # This place is just not for me

:55:08. > :55:11.I'll say it a thousand times # My friends they just ignore me

:55:11. > :55:14.Tell me, never mind # Waiting on your line for the

:55:14. > :55:17.slumville sunrise # Shine away in the morning across

:55:17. > :55:31.this place where I was born in # Every roof, every flower

:55:31. > :56:05.illuminated by the morning # This place is just not for me

:56:05. > :56:08.I say it all the time # My friends they just ignore me

:56:08. > :56:11.Tell me, never mind # Waiting on your line

:56:11. > :56:14.for the slumville sunrise # Shine away in the morning across

:56:14. > :56:28.this place where I was born in # Every roof, every flower

:56:28. > :56:49.illuminated by the morning. # # It's a cold and lonely message

:56:49. > :57:28.at the end of a song # So it seems that every song now

:57:28. > :57:45.is just one last chance # Oh, redemption, love and departure

:57:45. > :58:30.I think your work is done # Paris, St Petersburg don't need

:58:30. > :58:35.a tower of song # Escape's not worth the capture

:58:35. > :01:00.so walk that lonesome road Anthem For A Lost Cause, the

:01:00. > :01:08.wonderful title from a wonderful band, Manic Street Preachers. We're

:01:08. > :01:11.back on Tuesday with so much more. We need to thank the people in the

:01:11. > :01:19.room. Have you got a groove up your sleeve there? Yes. Thank you.

:01:20. > :01:29.One, two, three and thank you Manic Street Preachers! Thank you Kacey

:01:29. > :01:43.Musgraves! Thank you Cecile McLorin Salvant! Thank you VV Brown! Thank

:01:43. > :01:49.you Jake Bugg! Nice to see Pete on the drums. Thank you, Polica!