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0:00:08 > 0:00:10- Hello and a warm welcome to you.
0:00:11 > 0:00:14- It's wonderful to be back on S4C...
0:00:14 > 0:00:19- ..with a brand-new series - that runs for the next eight weeks.
0:00:20 > 0:00:23- I'll be joined by many friends...
0:00:24 > 0:00:29- ..who joined me on my series' - from the 1980s and 1990s.
0:00:30 > 0:00:34- We'll see how they have changed - in that time.
0:00:35 > 0:00:40- I'll also introduce you to - a new talent in every programme...
0:00:40 > 0:00:43- ..who could be a star of the future.
0:00:44 > 0:00:50- My first guests are two of - the members of the group, Cwlwm...
0:00:50 > 0:00:56- ..Shan Cothi and Eleri Twynog - and I think I can hear them now.
0:00:56 > 0:00:59- Yoo-hoo? Margaret?
0:00:59 > 0:01:03- Hello, how are you? - It's been such a long time.
0:01:03 > 0:01:06- Hello, Eleri. How are you?
0:01:06 > 0:01:09- Come into my grand house.
0:01:09 > 0:01:10- Come into my grand house.- - We will with pleasure.
0:01:11 > 0:01:12- It's lovely.
0:01:13 > 0:01:19- There were five members in the band, - Cwlwm, but who were the other three?
0:01:20 > 0:01:22- There was Delyth Medi...
0:01:22 > 0:01:26- ..who now teaches music - at Ysgol Glantaf in Cardiff.
0:01:26 > 0:01:32- We had Elin Jones who is now - an Assembly Member for Plaid Cymru.
0:01:33 > 0:01:37- Hedydd now teaches Welsh - in Lampeter Secondary School.
0:01:38 > 0:01:41- You've all done well - but how did it all start?
0:01:42 > 0:01:43- It seemed natural.
0:01:44 > 0:01:48- We had an excellent teacher at - school called Delyth Hopkin Evans.
0:01:48 > 0:01:53- Four of us were studying A level - Music and Elin was our friend.
0:01:54 > 0:01:59- There wasn't a lot of groups - at that time, but when was this?
0:02:00 > 0:02:02- Was it 1984?
0:02:02 > 0:02:05- Was it 1984?- - We left school in 1984.
0:02:06 > 0:02:11- We were in the Sixth Form together - and were always singing in lessons.
0:02:13 > 0:02:18- Andrew O'Neill also came - to teach Scripture in the school.
0:02:19 > 0:02:22- Do you remember that the - National Eisteddfod was in Lampeter?
0:02:23 > 0:02:26- Before that, he worked on - Dechrau Canu, Dechrau Canmol.
0:02:27 > 0:02:33- Dechrau Canu, Dechrau Canmol was - in Lampeter and he asked us to sing.
0:02:33 > 0:02:35- That's where it started.
0:02:35 > 0:02:38- That's where it started.- - It was Cwlwm's first performance.
0:02:38 > 0:02:43- I had a hideous black and white - dress. It was like a draughts board.
0:02:44 > 0:02:49- Do you remember appearing - on my series in the 1990s?
0:02:50 > 0:02:56- Your dress wasn't like a draughts - board but let's take a look.
0:02:58 > 0:03:05- # If I take and you take and - nobody is willing to give anything
0:03:05 > 0:03:12- # If everyone follows the same path - and nobody is willing to turn back
0:03:12 > 0:03:16- # It would all be an empty dream
0:03:16 > 0:03:19- # And the crossed words are in vain
0:03:20 > 0:03:27- # A pearl has its protection - when it's thrown into the sea
0:03:27 > 0:03:30- # Turn your head, walk away
0:03:33 > 0:03:35- # What is one voice - amidst a hundred?
0:03:36 > 0:03:39- # You're not the only one to blame
0:03:39 > 0:03:44- # When everybody else's eyes - are still closed
0:03:44 > 0:03:48- # But the day will come - when it's all too much
0:03:48 > 0:03:51- # When you're no longer willing
0:03:52 > 0:03:56- # At that time, who knows?
0:03:56 > 0:03:59- # It could be too late #
0:04:00 > 0:04:06- That was beautiful. You sounded - amazing and looked so innocent!
0:04:06 > 0:04:07- That's changed.
0:04:07 > 0:04:09- That's changed.- - We're still innocent!
0:04:10 > 0:04:13- I'm glad you thought - we sounded alright.
0:04:13 > 0:04:16- It's better if we close our eyes!
0:04:17 > 0:04:20- The harmony was beautiful. - Who wrote that song?
0:04:21 > 0:04:24- It's odd - because I never write anything.
0:04:24 > 0:04:26- Did you write that?
0:04:26 > 0:04:27- Did you write that?- - I think so.
0:04:28 > 0:04:32- Elin composed the lyrics - and I potched around with a melody.
0:04:33 > 0:04:35- I haven't composed anything - since then!
0:04:36 > 0:04:38- You could have a new career!
0:04:38 > 0:04:40- You could have a new career!- - Yes, you should start.
0:04:41 > 0:04:45- Do you still perform as Cwlwm?
0:04:45 > 0:04:51- We hadn't for a long time but we did - a small concert over Christmas.
0:04:52 > 0:04:55- Yes, it was a concert at the church - in Lampeter.
0:04:56 > 0:05:01- Every Christmas, we used to sing - in the church for Christian Aid.
0:05:01 > 0:05:06- This year marked 25 years - and we were invited to perform.
0:05:06 > 0:05:07- How did it go?
0:05:07 > 0:05:09- How did it go?- - It went surprisingly well.
0:05:10 > 0:05:14- We met four hours before the concert - at Hedydd's house in Lampeter...
0:05:14 > 0:05:16- ..to choose our songs.
0:05:16 > 0:05:20- It was a carol service - so we chose the classics...
0:05:20 > 0:05:23- ..and it all came back to us.
0:05:24 > 0:05:30- We remembered the breathing and - phrasing. We did it instinctively.
0:05:30 > 0:05:34- It was a wonderful experience - to sing together again.
0:05:35 > 0:05:37- The memories flooded back.
0:05:37 > 0:05:38- The memories flooded back.- - It was wonderful.
0:05:39 > 0:05:42- I remember first singing with you - in the studio.
0:05:43 > 0:05:47- You sang that song and did - backing vocals on a track with me.
0:05:48 > 0:05:50- We were experts at that!
0:05:50 > 0:05:52- We were experts at that!- - The song was called Ti a Fi.
0:05:52 > 0:05:56- I remember your vocals because the - sopranos had some very high notes.
0:05:57 > 0:06:00- I turned to see you and Delyth Medi.
0:06:00 > 0:06:02- I turned to see you and Delyth Medi.- - We were the top sopranos.
0:06:03 > 0:06:08- It sounded amazing and - the song was recorded for an album.
0:06:08 > 0:06:12- Let's remind ourselves of that song.
0:06:13 > 0:06:18- # Here we are, the pair of us
0:06:19 > 0:06:25- # Through the dark hours - of the night
0:06:25 > 0:06:31- # When I met you
0:06:31 > 0:06:37- # You and I became one
0:06:40 > 0:06:45- # Every dawn and dusk
0:06:46 > 0:06:51- # From day to day
0:06:53 > 0:06:58- # You are my life
0:06:58 > 0:07:04- # When I met you
0:07:04 > 0:07:10- # You and I became one
0:07:11 > 0:07:16- # You and I became one #
0:07:17 > 0:07:21- Oh, I'd forgotten all about that - but it's all come back to me now.
0:07:22 > 0:07:26- It's odd how a clip - can bring back so many memories.
0:07:27 > 0:07:32- I loved the harmonies of your group - so you should sing again together.
0:07:32 > 0:07:36- It's difficult because - we all have different jobs...
0:07:37 > 0:07:41- ..but there's a worry - that we won't be good enough.
0:07:41 > 0:07:46- Will our voices blend - or what if I start to wobble?
0:07:46 > 0:07:50- It's over if I start - singing like that!
0:07:50 > 0:07:53- It's been wonderful - to have you with me.
0:07:54 > 0:07:58- I've got many fond memories because - I thought the world of Cwlwm.
0:07:59 > 0:08:04- You're exceptionally busy - but do you still go riding, Shan?
0:08:04 > 0:08:08- Yes, Caio is still with me - and wants to be remembered to you.
0:08:09 > 0:08:13- He's ready to take you for a spin - around Ogmore Beach.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16- That's quite an honour.
0:08:16 > 0:08:17- That's quite an honour.- - You'll have to help me.
0:08:17 > 0:08:19- I'll sit on the back.
0:08:19 > 0:08:21- I'll sit on the back.- - I'll get you a sidecar!
0:08:22 > 0:08:27- Thank you and send my best wishes - to the other three.
0:08:31 > 0:08:37- Earlier, I said that I'd introduce - you to a new talent each week.
0:08:38 > 0:08:42- Tonight, it's a young man - from Bridgend called Ifan Jenkin.
0:08:43 > 0:08:48- He's a pianist and trumpeter but - he can tell you more about himself.
0:08:52 > 0:08:59- You're a pianist and trumpeter but - the piano is your main instrument.
0:09:00 > 0:09:05- Yes, I compete more on the piano - but enjoy playing the trumpet...
0:09:06 > 0:09:09- ..in local ensembles, - orchestras and jazz bands...
0:09:10 > 0:09:13- ..but my first love is the piano.
0:09:14 > 0:09:16- You've been playing the piano - for many years.
0:09:17 > 0:09:18- Yes, twelve years.
0:09:19 > 0:09:24- It's played a big part in my life - and I'm grateful for it.
0:09:24 > 0:09:26- Do you compete a lot?
0:09:27 > 0:09:33- I've competed in the Eisteddfod for - six years and made it to the stage.
0:09:33 > 0:09:36- I've won three times.
0:09:36 > 0:09:41- It's something to aim for every year - and it's nice to try again.
0:09:42 > 0:09:47- You're also a singer - and are a member of Only Boys Aloud.
0:09:48 > 0:09:52- Yes, I've been with Only Boys Aloud - for three years.
0:09:52 > 0:09:56- Our first concert - was at the Ebbw Vale Eisteddfod.
0:09:57 > 0:10:00- Last year, you appeared - on Britain's Got Talent.
0:10:01 > 0:10:05- It was an amazing experience - that I'll never forget.
0:10:05 > 0:10:10- I voted for you and was in tears - when you performed Calon Lan.
0:10:11 > 0:10:14- How did it feel to perform - that Welsh hymn there?
0:10:15 > 0:10:20- It was odd at first and I remember - seeing Simon Cowell and the judges.
0:10:20 > 0:10:26- It was strange to be singing to them - in Welsh but it felt right.
0:10:27 > 0:10:30- I was very proud - to represent our country.
0:10:31 > 0:10:36- They were amazed with your - performance and you were excellent.
0:10:36 > 0:10:41- # A pure heart #
0:10:44 > 0:10:47- You've had some amazing experiences, - Ifan.
0:10:47 > 0:10:51- Would you like to turn professional?
0:10:51 > 0:10:52- Would you like to turn professional?- - No, not with music.
0:10:53 > 0:10:58- I've enjoyed every second of it - and I'll keep music as a hobby...
0:10:59 > 0:11:03- ..but I'd like to study medicine - at university.
0:11:04 > 0:11:06- Is that what you want to do?
0:11:06 > 0:11:07- Is that what you want to do?- - Yes, I hope so.
0:11:07 > 0:11:13- Good luck to you and what are - you going to perform for us?
0:11:13 > 0:11:18- An excerpt from the first movement - of Beethoven's Sonata Pathetique.
0:11:19 > 0:11:21- Wonderful. I can't wait!
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0:14:01 > 0:14:05- It was a pleasure to introduce you - to Ifan Jenkin earlier.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09- The same is true - of a twelve-year-old girl...
0:14:09 > 0:14:14- ..who joined me in the studio - with her father and mother.
0:14:14 > 0:14:19- That young girl was, and still is, - Tara Bethan.
0:14:19 > 0:14:22- It's lovely to see you again.
0:14:22 > 0:14:25- Thanks for inviting me - to your palace.
0:14:25 > 0:14:27- Are you jealous?
0:14:27 > 0:14:28- Are you jealous?- - Yes, I am!
0:14:29 > 0:14:32- You were twelve - when I met you and your mother.
0:14:33 > 0:14:36- We don't often see your mother - but she was a dancer.
0:14:37 > 0:14:44- Mam was a dancer until she was 16 - but she's a very shy lady.
0:14:45 > 0:14:51- It's how her relationship with Dad - worked well because he wasn't shy!
0:14:51 > 0:14:56- She was always in the background, - wherever Dad or I was working.
0:14:56 > 0:15:00- She was there to run everything - but didn't want the limelight.
0:15:01 > 0:15:05- She stood out of sight whilst you - and your father were on my sofa.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09- It was quite a blow - when you lost your father...
0:15:10 > 0:15:13- ..because he was a well-liked - public figure.
0:15:13 > 0:15:18- I'm sure it helped to pay him - such an excellent tribute.
0:15:18 > 0:15:24- I was so glad to have had the - opportunity to make that programme.
0:15:25 > 0:15:31- I don't think I could be any prouder - of a piece of work.
0:15:31 > 0:15:36- That programme is also - something I can keep forever.
0:15:37 > 0:15:41- It has helped me to adapt - to a new life without Dad.
0:15:42 > 0:15:49- It speeded up the grieving process - - it was like a crash course.
0:15:50 > 0:15:53- It brought the happy memories - to the fore.
0:15:53 > 0:15:57- Yes, and there was so much - I didn't know too.
0:15:57 > 0:16:02- I remember that he was so proud - of you and very sincere too.
0:16:03 > 0:16:06- I've got a clip to remind us - of that day, Tara.
0:16:06 > 0:16:10- How does it feel to have - such a talented daughter, Orig?
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- It's good that she's taken - an interest in something...
0:16:14 > 0:16:17- ..that's so different to my world.
0:16:17 > 0:16:20- She didn't need any persuasion.
0:16:20 > 0:16:24- No, she loves her training.
0:16:24 > 0:16:25- No, she loves her training.- - Yes, I'm sure.
0:16:26 > 0:16:31- You were raised around an array of - people from singers to actors, Tara.
0:16:32 > 0:16:33- Yes, that's right.
0:16:34 > 0:16:38- Do you like the company of - those legends you grew up around?
0:16:38 > 0:16:41- The only thing I do remember...
0:16:41 > 0:16:46- ..is Giant Haystacks, one of - the biggest wrestlers at the time...
0:16:47 > 0:16:48- ..looked after me.
0:16:49 > 0:16:53- Dad has a few photographs - of him holding me.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57- I look so small next to him.
0:16:57 > 0:16:58- I look so small next to him.- - I'm sure you do.
0:16:59 > 0:17:02- That was wonderful - and he had such sincerity.
0:17:03 > 0:17:06- You looked great - in your Welsh costume.
0:17:06 > 0:17:09- That's a matter of opinion, - Margaret!
0:17:09 > 0:17:12- You wore it - because you were dancing for us.
0:17:13 > 0:17:18- I remember you winning - disco dancing competitions.
0:17:18 > 0:17:21- Did your mother teach you?
0:17:21 > 0:17:24- Did your mother teach you?- - We did it together which sounds odd.
0:17:24 > 0:17:27- However, I did have a system.
0:17:27 > 0:17:30- I was eight when I first won.
0:17:30 > 0:17:35- My system was that Mam and I - would rehearse every night.
0:17:35 > 0:17:37- It had an introduction...
0:17:38 > 0:17:43- ..a middle section of floor work - that had the required moves...
0:17:43 > 0:17:45- ..and an ending.
0:17:45 > 0:17:48- I made up the rest of it on the day.
0:17:49 > 0:17:54- Looking back, I can't believe - that Mam trusted me to do that...
0:17:54 > 0:17:59- ..or that it was a good idea because - I could have had a mental block.
0:18:00 > 0:18:03- They call it improvisation!
0:18:03 > 0:18:08- Yes, but it was so short a time - I could have just learnt a dance!
0:18:08 > 0:18:11- It made it more creative.
0:18:11 > 0:18:18- Yes, and I get bored easily so doing - it differently kept me on my toes.
0:18:18 > 0:18:21- It could be why you won.
0:18:21 > 0:18:24- It could be why you won.- - Or why I lost the following year!
0:18:25 > 0:18:28- How did the folk dancing - competitions compare?
0:18:29 > 0:18:33- I finished second at seven - consecutive Eisteddfods.
0:18:34 > 0:18:36- It wasn't even - to the same person!
0:18:36 > 0:18:40- You did dance - with a famous folk group.
0:18:40 > 0:18:44- You performed with - Dawnswyr Nantgarw Bach.
0:18:45 > 0:18:52- I loved watching all of you and - you look so graceful in the costume.
0:18:53 > 0:18:55- Let's see it.
0:19:29 > 0:19:32- Awww! That was - one of my highlights.
0:19:32 > 0:19:34- Really?
0:19:34 > 0:19:36- Really?- - Yes, it's lovely.
0:19:36 > 0:19:38- We've all changed - over the years...
0:19:39 > 0:19:42- ..but you've made an - incredible transformation.
0:19:43 > 0:19:46- I'm glad you said that - after that clip.
0:19:46 > 0:19:51- You've had a successful career - since that time.
0:19:51 > 0:19:55- Did you always know - that this was the career for you?
0:19:55 > 0:19:59- I've had a lot of ups and downs.
0:20:00 > 0:20:05- I think I had an ambition - at that time.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09- I don't any more - but I've learnt so much.
0:20:10 > 0:20:14- I was raised in Wales and was always - in the television world...
0:20:15 > 0:20:18- ..and I was spoilt by my parents - for starters...
0:20:19 > 0:20:23- ..and by those - in the television industry.
0:20:23 > 0:20:28- Then I did the reality show, I'd Do - Anything with Andrew Lloyd Webber.
0:20:29 > 0:20:30- What was he like?
0:20:31 > 0:20:32- Alright.
0:20:32 > 0:20:34- Alright.- - I won't ask any more.
0:20:35 > 0:20:37- He doesn't like women - with an opinion.
0:20:38 > 0:20:43- He liked young girls who said, "Yes, - Andrew," and I wasn't one of them!
0:20:44 > 0:20:47- It was a shock for starters...
0:20:48 > 0:20:54- ..because I was one of 7,500 - which was whittled down to twelve...
0:20:54 > 0:20:57- ..and I didn't cope with it - very well.
0:20:58 > 0:21:04- I didn't know how to react to - the other girls in the competition.
0:21:04 > 0:21:08- At least you learnt something - from that Nancy programme.
0:21:09 > 0:21:14- Yes, and I'd do it again tomorrow - because I learnt so much.
0:21:15 > 0:21:19- I thought I was a strong person - but I wasn't!
0:21:20 > 0:21:23- These programmes - ask you to act, sing and dance.
0:21:24 > 0:21:28- We can now see your acting skills - because you're an actress.
0:21:28 > 0:21:34- Yes, I had the call for Pobol y Cwm - and went through the auditions...
0:21:35 > 0:21:38- ..but the original contract - was for a month.
0:21:39 > 0:21:43- I had another call asking me to - go back for a year to run the Deri.
0:21:44 > 0:21:47- At the moment, I feel very happy.
0:21:47 > 0:21:53- I've stopped and am able to get - my teeth into something I enjoy.
0:21:53 > 0:21:55- We love watching you.
0:21:55 > 0:21:58- Before you go, you said your mother - is in Tenerife.
0:21:59 > 0:22:02- She's been in Tenerife - for almost two years.
0:22:03 > 0:22:07- I was so worried when she went but - it's the best thing she's ever done.
0:22:08 > 0:22:13- She's started a new life because - she lost so much when Dad died.
0:22:14 > 0:22:19- She can look after herself, enjoy - the sun and I visit her often.
0:22:20 > 0:22:23- You've got a place - to go on holiday!
0:22:23 > 0:22:27- Give her my regards. - Thank you too, Tara.
0:22:27 > 0:22:32- We close with another clip but - this is of you singing in 2005...
0:22:33 > 0:22:38- ..when you gave a beautiful - rendition of Cwsg Osian.
0:22:39 > 0:22:42- Before we hear Tara, - thank you for joining me...
0:22:43 > 0:22:46- ..and thanks to those - who took part tonight.
0:22:46 > 0:22:50- Join me at the same place and time - next week. Until then, goodnight.
0:22:52 > 0:22:58- # Whilst there's woe and grief
0:22:59 > 0:23:04- # Whilst the sword - is out of its sheath
0:23:04 > 0:23:06- # Sleep on
0:23:06 > 0:23:12- # The day will rid all your fears
0:23:12 > 0:23:15- # Sleep on, sleep on
0:23:16 > 0:23:20- # Sleep on
0:23:21 > 0:23:28- # Sleep Osian, you're free to sleep
0:23:28 > 0:23:35- # Sleep so you're not sad
0:23:36 > 0:23:42- # Sleep, with your secret dream
0:23:43 > 0:23:51- # Sleep, and day will come #
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