Ochr 1: Aron Elias

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0:00:05 > 0:00:07- It really is fate.

0:00:08 > 0:00:11- I wasn't looking for a cave.

0:00:11 > 0:00:14- I've been here for...

0:00:15 > 0:00:18- ..I don't know, a year.

0:00:19 > 0:00:21- Isn't that right, Apollo.

0:00:30 > 0:00:33- Aron Elias from Porthmadog is known - for being the lead singer...

0:00:33 > 0:00:37- ..of one of Wales' most influential - hip-hop bands, Pep Le Pew.

0:00:37 > 0:00:42- For almost two years, Aron has been - living in Granada in southern Spain.

0:01:00 > 0:01:04- Granada is known for - its Arabian palace, the Alhambra...

0:01:04 > 0:01:06- ..and is home - to the flamenco tradition.

0:01:07 > 0:01:09- Welcome to Ochr 1 with Aron Elias.

0:01:24 > 0:01:26- One Dalmatian.

0:01:43 > 0:01:48- The cat has been meowing for days. - It's been eating the same as me.

0:01:48 > 0:01:52- I asked for some cat food - but they gave me dog food.

0:01:52 > 0:01:55- Anyway, cats will eat anything.

0:02:15 > 0:02:16- I'm worried for the cat.

0:02:17 > 0:02:20- A year ago, in another cave, - I had been doing a gig.

0:02:20 > 0:02:23- I played every Sunday. - I was the house guitarist.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27- I found a cat's body - without its head.

0:02:27 > 0:02:31- A dog had bitten it off. - It wasn't a nice sight.

0:02:31 > 0:02:34- I'm worried for my cat - so I'm teaching it how to fight.

0:02:34 > 0:02:38- I scrap with the cat - to toughen it up.

0:02:38 > 0:02:39- A Boy Named Sue.

0:02:40 > 0:02:43- Like Johnny Cash's song.

0:02:44 > 0:02:49- The father called his son Sue.

0:02:50 > 0:02:55- Sue becomes hard as nails.

0:02:56 > 0:03:00- He finds his father - and says, "Hi, my name is Sue".

0:03:01 > 0:03:02- "Hello, how are you?"

0:03:02 > 0:03:04- They have a big fight.

0:03:04 > 0:03:06- You know the song.

0:03:07 > 0:03:10- He explains it in the end - by saying...

0:03:11 > 0:03:13- .."Son, listen, this life is tough.

0:03:13 > 0:03:16- "You have to be tough - in this world...

0:03:16 > 0:03:20- "..and I have to tell you that - was the hardest slap I've ever had.

0:03:20 > 0:03:24- "If I hadn't named you Sue, you - wouldn't be half the man you are."

0:03:25 > 0:03:26- Or something like that.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30- In a cat context, obviously.

0:03:35 > 0:03:37- Sacromonte Caves near Granada

0:03:45 > 0:03:48- A lot of people come here - to look for a cave.

0:03:48 > 0:03:50- I didn't come here - looking for a cave.

0:03:51 > 0:03:54- A cave? Why on earth - would I want to live in a cave?

0:03:55 > 0:03:57- It just happened one Christmas...

0:03:57 > 0:04:01- ..after I had been refused - an Arts Council grant.

0:04:01 > 0:04:02- I don't give a shit.

0:04:03 > 0:04:05- I had no money.

0:04:07 > 0:04:10- It's not my cave. I'm not a caveman!

0:04:14 > 0:04:16- That's where I live at the moment.

0:04:23 > 0:04:26- These sandals cost 2 euros - and are good for nothing.

0:04:42 > 0:04:44- There's a hell of a mess here.

0:04:57 > 0:05:02- Pep Le Pew were Aron Elias, Dyl Mei, - Ed Holden and Dave Thomas.

0:05:10 > 0:05:12- What was the highlight?

0:05:14 > 0:05:17- Pep Le Pew, well...

0:05:18 > 0:05:19- ..I was spoilt.

0:05:20 > 0:05:23- We pissed everybody off.

0:05:23 > 0:05:26- We were like - the new kids on the block.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28- We were an ordinary group of lads.

0:05:29 > 0:05:31- I've found Pep Le Pew here.

0:05:31 > 0:05:36- They're eager to carry on drinking - and socialising.

0:05:36 > 0:05:37- I'm going to be quick.

0:05:38 > 0:05:39- How are you, Aron?

0:05:39 > 0:05:40- How are you, Aron?- - Not bad.

0:05:40 > 0:05:41- Are you enjoying Miri Madog?

0:05:41 > 0:05:43- Are you enjoying Miri Madog?- - Yes, I'm keeping it level.

0:05:43 > 0:05:45- I'm not going overboard.

0:05:45 > 0:05:48- We're pissed off - our names aren't on the T-shirts.

0:05:49 > 0:05:52- We're underground. - It's cooler to be underrated.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22- I was in my first band at 14. - It was heavy metal.

0:06:23 > 0:06:29- We played in Nant Gwynant - at a friend's party in a cowshed.

0:06:31 > 0:06:32- There was a rave after.

0:06:33 > 0:06:35- The drummer had great rhythm.

0:06:37 > 0:06:42- Osian, Dyl Mei's brother, - was on the bass. He couldn't play.

0:06:44 > 0:06:48- He'd drank too much - and he was on the floor.

0:06:49 > 0:06:52- The drummer was on amphetamines.

0:06:52 > 0:06:53- He was just playing on his own.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56- I was just playing on my own too.

0:06:56 > 0:07:00- It was hopeless. - That was the first band.

0:07:04 > 0:07:08- After the rock phase, - I shaved my hair.

0:07:09 > 0:07:11- Then it was techno.

0:07:12 > 0:07:16- But I still really felt that - I wanted to continue with music.

0:07:16 > 0:07:20- What I like is, I'm a bass junky.

0:07:21 > 0:07:22- So I learned bass.

0:07:23 > 0:07:27- I hitchhiked with a guy - called John to Glastonbury.

0:07:28 > 0:07:32- I saw Roni Size and Reprazent - with the double bass.

0:07:32 > 0:07:38- They mixed electronic elements with - a drummer, double bass, a rapper...

0:07:38 > 0:07:43- ..a girl singing and synths - with Roni Size on the decks.

0:07:43 > 0:07:48- I thought when I was 17, - "That's what I want to do."

0:07:48 > 0:07:49- I want to do that.

0:08:08 > 0:08:13- I was a bassist and a guitarist - and a frontman.

0:08:14 > 0:08:16- We had a drummer, Dave.

0:08:17 > 0:08:20- I had the idea of asking Dyl.

0:08:20 > 0:08:25- Dave said, "Ask Dyl? - Bloody hell, yes, of course!"

0:08:26 > 0:08:29- Then, "Dyl, fancy doing...

0:08:29 > 0:08:32- "Like Roni. You can be Roni Size."

0:08:33 > 0:08:35- "You can be Roni Size."

0:08:35 > 0:08:39- And then, you know, - there were three of us.

0:08:40 > 0:08:42- I liked Busta Rhymes.

0:08:42 > 0:08:43- "Wah, do wah!"

0:08:44 > 0:08:46- Or ODB.

0:08:48 > 0:08:50- Yes, I liked them.

0:08:50 > 0:08:54- Everybody thought I was nuts.

0:08:54 > 0:08:56- Well, I am!

0:09:20 > 0:09:26- We started Pep Le Pew and then it - was like its own little machine.

0:09:26 > 0:09:30- It was like an animal or a dragon - with a life of its own.

0:09:30 > 0:09:32- I lost my... I'm a rebel.

0:09:33 > 0:09:37- "You're a Welsh hip-hop band." - No, we're not.

0:09:37 > 0:09:40- I don't like to be labelled.

0:09:40 > 0:09:42- We live in a world of labels.

0:09:42 > 0:09:44- You're this, you're this.

0:09:45 > 0:09:48- I lost heart.

0:09:48 > 0:09:53- I got lost in the... - I was the frontman, the face.

0:09:53 > 0:09:57- The frontman has to be confident.

0:09:58 > 0:09:59- A master of ceremony.

0:10:00 > 0:10:02- If not, if you're meek and say...

0:10:02 > 0:10:05- .."Alright? - I'm going to play a song"...

0:10:06 > 0:10:09- ..a thousand people - would tear you to shreds.

0:10:10 > 0:10:11- Boof!

0:10:33 > 0:10:37- What fucked me up - was I got lost in the character.

0:10:37 > 0:10:40- I was Aron Pep Le Pew. - Ra-da-da-da-da!

0:10:42 > 0:10:44- That wasn't really me.

0:10:44 > 0:10:46- I'm quite quiet really.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49- I'm acting like me now - in front of the camera.

0:10:50 > 0:10:53- I had a nervous breakdown - when it finished.

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0:11:33 > 0:11:34- It's really messy.

0:11:38 > 0:11:40- Hey!

0:11:40 > 0:11:43- HE SPEAKS SPANISH

0:11:50 > 0:11:53- I was telling the dog - that I'd got him some food...

0:11:53 > 0:11:57- ..but that he doesn't know - what 'dog' means.

0:11:59 > 0:12:01- It's really messy here!

0:12:14 > 0:12:17- I'm just going to feed the cat.

0:12:23 > 0:12:24- Mess.

0:12:25 > 0:12:27- That'll do for the cat.

0:12:30 > 0:12:32- Fucking yuck!

0:12:33 > 0:12:34- Yuck!

0:12:34 > 0:12:36- What the fuck is this?

0:12:38 > 0:12:42- Fucking eat that, you noisy thing.

0:12:42 > 0:12:45- A bloke, a gypsy, told me...

0:12:45 > 0:12:47- ..there are many rules.

0:12:47 > 0:12:50- These caves - are for penniless people.

0:12:52 > 0:12:54- Compared to some people...

0:12:54 > 0:12:58- There are people who have no money. - Nothing at all.

0:12:58 > 0:13:03- Sometimes, because of work I've done - in the past, or something...

0:13:03 > 0:13:05- ..I sometimes have about 50.

0:13:06 > 0:13:07- Sometimes.

0:13:08 > 0:13:11- But there's the very poor too. - They have nothing.

0:13:12 > 0:13:14- It's a choice.

0:13:14 > 0:13:19- I could choose to try and get a flat - and a proper job.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22- But I like it.

0:13:23 > 0:13:25- I appreciate things more.

0:13:28 > 0:13:30- I do exercises.

0:13:30 > 0:13:32- I don't watch too much...

0:13:32 > 0:13:35- I don't watch TV. - There's no electricity.

0:13:35 > 0:13:38- I have a cooker. It's disgusting.

0:13:39 > 0:13:42- It hasn't been here for long. - It's disgusting.

0:13:42 > 0:13:44- I don't want my family to see it.

0:13:45 > 0:13:47- It's cool here in the summer...

0:13:48 > 0:13:51- ..and it's warmer - than the houses in winter.

0:13:52 > 0:13:53- It's underground.

0:13:53 > 0:13:56- But there's a colony of insects - here.

0:13:57 > 0:14:00- That's a good practice - for doing meditation.

0:14:00 > 0:14:05- Practising guitar - trying to play - a song, I don't know...

0:14:05 > 0:14:10- ..a classical song - such as by Agustin Barrios...

0:14:10 > 0:14:13- ..with about seven insects - attacking you.

0:14:13 > 0:14:17- Trying to carry on playing - without doing this.

0:14:19 > 0:14:21- It tests your patience.

0:14:23 > 0:14:26- I hope there are no cameras here...

0:14:26 > 0:14:28- ..because I'm like this!

0:14:28 > 0:14:31- One evening, - I was waving a stick about.

0:14:31 > 0:14:32- Doing all this.

0:14:39 > 0:14:40- There's a power...

0:14:41 > 0:14:43- ..something magnetic here.

0:14:43 > 0:14:49- There must be because people - from all cultures have come here.

0:14:53 > 0:14:59- We're close - but we all have our quirks.

0:14:59 > 0:15:01- It's like a community.

0:15:02 > 0:15:06- We're all from different places. - One love.

0:15:07 > 0:15:08- Hey!

0:15:10 > 0:15:12- He's self-sufficient.

0:15:12 > 0:15:14- He's grown all this.

0:15:15 > 0:15:18- Plants, vegetables.

0:15:19 > 0:15:25- Sergio is the real thing. - He's what I'm aiming to be.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27- He's created this.

0:15:54 > 0:15:57- A lot of people - have been coming here.

0:15:57 > 0:15:59- Lots of artists.

0:15:59 > 0:16:01- Lots of poets.

0:16:02 > 0:16:04- Everyone here can play guitar.

0:16:55 > 0:16:56- Ibrahim.

0:16:56 > 0:17:01- One evening, around a year - and a half to two years ago...

0:17:02 > 0:17:04- ..we met while having a jam - with the lads.

0:17:05 > 0:17:06- He had this instrument.

0:17:07 > 0:17:08- It looked like a kora.

0:17:16 > 0:17:19- I heard it and thought, "Wow!"

0:17:19 > 0:17:23- Jimi Hendrix blues - in minor pentatonic!

0:17:39 > 0:17:42- It looks like a fruit - crossed with a harp.

0:17:43 > 0:17:45- From Mali. The blues.

0:17:45 > 0:17:48- It's the blues I fell in love with - first, musically.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52- My brother - gave me a Muddy Waters tape.

0:17:52 > 0:17:54- Muddy Waters and Johnny Winter.

0:17:55 > 0:17:56- Howling Wolf.

0:17:56 > 0:18:00- I idolized these African-Americans.

0:18:01 > 0:18:05- Then I came here - and met a guy from Mali, Africa...

0:18:05 > 0:18:09- ..playing the blues, - but the original blues.

0:18:23 > 0:18:26- I love listening - to different languages.

0:18:26 > 0:18:27- Hearing the sound.

0:18:28 > 0:18:32- Even though I don't understand - what he's saying...

0:18:32 > 0:18:34- ..I do.

0:18:34 > 0:18:36- You do. You can feel it.

0:18:36 > 0:18:41- I didn't understand what the song - was about until he smiled.

0:18:43 > 0:18:45- I learned a lot from him too.

0:18:45 > 0:18:47- They celebrate life.

0:18:47 > 0:18:52- The gitanos too with flamenco. - Celebrating life. Vamos!

0:18:52 > 0:18:55- Ibrahim with Malian music.

0:18:55 > 0:18:56- Come on!

0:18:57 > 0:19:01- I felt I'd had a shot of adrenalin!

0:19:03 > 0:19:04- Boof!

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0:21:25 > 0:21:27- HE SPEAKS SPANISH

0:21:34 > 0:21:37- She's a lifesaver. - She's made me coffee.

0:21:40 > 0:21:43- She's like the mother figure here.

0:21:44 > 0:21:46- You don't fall out with her.

0:21:48 > 0:21:49- She makes tea.

0:21:50 > 0:21:53- The mint plants - grow wild around here.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58- You pick it and break it up.

0:22:26 > 0:22:30- Granada is a very cultural city.

0:22:31 > 0:22:35- People come here to study - from all over the world.

0:22:35 > 0:22:40- People like me - without financial support...

0:22:40 > 0:22:42- ..so we come here to study.

0:22:45 > 0:22:51- I go to the library, Centro de - Documentacion Musical de Andalucia.

0:22:52 > 0:22:56- This is like my office - when I'm learning a song.

0:22:57 > 0:22:59- It's the hub...

0:22:59 > 0:23:05- ..for all the scores - of Andalucia's traditional music.

0:23:06 > 0:23:12- Centro de Documentacion Musical - de Andalucia.

0:23:13 > 0:23:15- Let's go in.

0:23:16 > 0:23:18- They've been great.

0:23:18 > 0:23:23- They've given me a card despite - my not having a formal address.

0:23:27 > 0:23:30- I was very lucky to get a card...

0:23:30 > 0:23:35- ..because you normally need to give - a phone number and a house number.

0:23:35 > 0:23:37- I have neither.

0:23:38 > 0:23:41- It's great. The banks - have no idea where to find me.

0:23:49 > 0:23:51- They are so good to me.

0:23:53 > 0:23:57- I don't have electricity - in the cave so I come here.

0:24:00 > 0:24:02- I'm charging things up.

0:24:19 > 0:24:22- If I need a score...

0:24:22 > 0:24:28- ..by Chopin or Angel Barrios...

0:24:28 > 0:24:34- ..I get to borrow it here.

0:24:35 > 0:24:39- I learn slowly - by listening here in the mornings.

0:24:39 > 0:24:43- I try to memorize it by - listening to it over and over again.

0:24:44 > 0:24:48- Then I go back and read it - and try to remember it in my mind.

0:24:49 > 0:24:51- Putting my OCD to good use.

0:24:51 > 0:24:54- Making my obsession a positive.

0:24:59 > 0:25:03- I learn better by listening - than by reading a score.

0:25:04 > 0:25:06- I'm a little illiterate musically.

0:25:09 > 0:25:11- It's a lot of work.

0:25:11 > 0:25:14- I've been learning - Clair de Lune for five years.

0:25:14 > 0:25:16- I still haven't cracked it.

0:25:16 > 0:25:19- I tried to play it - on Radio Cymru. Embarrassing.

0:25:37 > 0:25:39- This is chromatic.

0:25:41 > 0:25:43- It's on bass.

0:25:43 > 0:25:47- I'm trying to work it out for - a guitar. It should be possible.

0:25:47 > 0:25:49- It's a lot of work.

0:25:49 > 0:25:53- There's this film called The Pianist - or Piano Player about a man...

0:25:54 > 0:25:58- ..having a nervous breakdown - after learning a Tchaikovsky piece!

0:25:58 > 0:26:03- It's a true story about this - character that learns a huge piece.

0:26:03 > 0:26:07- He has a breakdown after - performing it and getting applauded.

0:26:07 > 0:26:12- He had a fit - and ended up in hospital.

0:26:41 > 0:26:44- It looks a bit like Bethesda.

0:26:44 > 0:26:46- Snowdonia.

0:26:50 > 0:26:52- What's great...

0:26:52 > 0:26:54- ..is one minute you're in a city...

0:26:57 > 0:27:03- ..and the next minute - the nearest thing to silence.

0:27:07 > 0:27:08- There is no silence.

0:27:09 > 0:27:10- I can hear a flute.

0:27:23 > 0:27:25- Where's the best place?

0:28:05 > 0:28:08- I've always been interested.

0:28:09 > 0:28:12- I did karate when I was a kid.

0:28:13 > 0:28:16- I've researched meditation.

0:28:17 > 0:28:19- Zen from Japan.

0:28:19 > 0:28:21- Tai chi from China.

0:28:22 > 0:28:25- People think it's hippy-dippy.

0:28:25 > 0:28:30- Every atom of the body - requires oxygen.

0:28:31 > 0:28:36- There's a scientific way - of explaining meditation.

0:28:37 > 0:28:42- It's about moving in time - with your breathing.

0:29:04 > 0:29:08- Meditation - is about clearing the mind.

0:29:10 > 0:29:12- Look at these clouds.

0:29:12 > 0:29:16- The clouds are like your worries.

0:29:16 > 0:29:19- "Facebook. - What will I eat tomorrow?"

0:29:19 > 0:29:22- "I've got a bill to pay, - blah, blah."

0:29:22 > 0:29:24- "I'm in love."

0:29:25 > 0:29:29- "Everything's a shambles."

0:29:29 > 0:29:34- Just let all those things pass - like a cloud in the sky.

0:29:34 > 0:29:39- That's the aim with meditation.

0:29:41 > 0:29:46- I've always had - a wall of thoughts in my mind.

0:30:00 > 0:30:02- When I had a nervous breakdown...

0:30:02 > 0:30:05- ..I was following it, - not letting it pass.

0:30:05 > 0:30:09- "My life is crap - and I've fucked it up."

0:30:10 > 0:30:12- I followed that cloud...

0:30:12 > 0:30:15- ..and all I thought about - that day...

0:30:15 > 0:30:19- ..stayed in the same tone or chord.

0:30:19 > 0:30:25- That's me explaining - the bad thoughts in music terms.

0:30:25 > 0:30:27- That's my way of explaining it.

0:30:28 > 0:30:32- I'm good at speaking about it - but not at countering it.

0:30:36 > 0:30:41- I've been interested in mindfulness - and mental health...

0:30:41 > 0:30:44- ..all my life.

0:30:45 > 0:30:49- There was illness in my family - and I had to learn about it.

0:30:49 > 0:30:51- From my experience...

0:30:52 > 0:30:57- ..of seeing the effects of - pharmaceutical drugs on people...

0:30:58 > 0:31:00- ..I've concluded they don't work...

0:31:01 > 0:31:07- ..they just brush - the problems under a mat, or bed.

0:31:07 > 0:31:10- The problems increase - and there are after-effects.

0:31:10 > 0:31:13- They make people worse.

0:31:15 > 0:31:19- In my opinion, - it shouldn't be seen as an illness.

0:31:20 > 0:31:26- It's normal after losing a child - or being in an accident...

0:31:26 > 0:31:31- ..to feel sad or depressed - and be unable to concentrate.

0:31:31 > 0:31:36- They call it psychosis because - you focus so much on the problems.

0:31:36 > 0:31:37- The trauma.

0:31:38 > 0:31:42- It's not madness - to have these feelings...

0:31:43 > 0:31:45- ..after something awful's happened.

0:31:46 > 0:31:49- Tai chi or mindfulness. - There's no right way.

0:31:49 > 0:31:52- Meditation is the best way ahead.

0:31:56 > 0:31:58- I was on Prozac at 18.

0:31:59 > 0:32:01- Fuck! 18!

0:32:02 > 0:32:04- Why?

0:32:04 > 0:32:08- I was growing and it was normal - for my hormones to be going mad...

0:32:09 > 0:32:14- ..with complex emotional events - going on in my family.

0:32:14 > 0:32:19- It was natural for me - to be a bit fucked up.

0:32:19 > 0:32:21- Excuse my language!

0:32:21 > 0:32:24- I'm much better.

0:32:24 > 0:32:27- I'm coping much better - than even a year ago...

0:32:28 > 0:32:32- ..since learning how to meditate.

0:32:33 > 0:32:35- Meditation just helps.

0:32:37 > 0:32:39- But not without the spitting.

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0:34:55 > 0:34:56- Hello?

0:35:07 > 0:35:08- KNOCKS ON DOOR

0:35:16 > 0:35:18- You've caught me in a crisis.

0:35:18 > 0:35:20- I've got no sensible trousers.

0:35:20 > 0:35:22- How are you?

0:35:26 > 0:35:29- Despite not having a lot of clothes, - I'm still vain.

0:35:29 > 0:35:32- I still want to look, not good...

0:35:32 > 0:35:34- ..I just want to look...

0:35:35 > 0:35:37- I've only got half a mirror here.

0:35:38 > 0:35:41- I don't like my hair - as it isn't the same colour.

0:35:52 > 0:35:54- I haven't got any clothes.

0:35:56 > 0:35:58- I haven't had a cup of tea yet.

0:35:58 > 0:36:00- I just woke up - and did bits and bobs.

0:36:00 > 0:36:03- I sat over there - and stared for a while.

0:36:03 > 0:36:05- That was hours ago.

0:36:07 > 0:36:08- Bandana or no bandana?

0:36:11 > 0:36:15- I'm more worried about what I wear - than clearing this bloody mess.

0:36:15 > 0:36:19- I have to keep everything - off the ground because of the mud.

0:36:20 > 0:36:22- Clothes and everything.

0:36:22 > 0:36:24- It's drier now than it was.

0:36:40 > 0:36:42- It's getting hot, isn't it?

0:36:43 > 0:36:47- Just think about cold water.

0:36:47 > 0:36:48- Just things...

0:36:48 > 0:36:51- If you can't get safe water.

0:36:51 > 0:36:54- If it's too hot, the water's hot.

0:36:56 > 0:36:58- It's great to wash in the day.

0:36:58 > 0:37:03- You can wash in the day - with warm water if it's hot.

0:37:04 > 0:37:08- You can't have - a glass of cold water, it's warm.

0:37:31 > 0:37:33- He's one of my mates, - one of my friends.

0:37:34 > 0:37:36- He's my guitar mentor.

0:37:36 > 0:37:39- He plays - original gypsy flamenco guitar.

0:37:47 > 0:37:53- I fell in love with flamenco, - the style that Salvador plays.

0:37:55 > 0:37:56- Sabicas.

0:37:57 > 0:38:01- The masters of masters.

0:38:02 > 0:38:04- Salvador is up there.

0:38:05 > 0:38:07- He's influenced a lot of people.

0:38:20 > 0:38:25- I'd always seen Salvador - around on his own playing.

0:38:26 > 0:38:31- I never went to speak to him - because I respected him.

0:38:32 > 0:38:36- He manages to fill the square - by the cathedral...

0:38:36 > 0:38:39- ..with an incredible ambience.

0:38:49 > 0:38:53- A musician sees another musician - on the street and helps him out.

0:38:53 > 0:38:56- A musician won't ask - another one for money.

0:38:56 > 0:38:59- There's respect - because we're on the same team.

0:39:00 > 0:39:02- We get hassled by the police...

0:39:02 > 0:39:05- ..we go to the same places - to get papers and do the admin.

0:39:09 > 0:39:13- Usually, you have to have a licence - for dangerous things like cars.

0:39:13 > 0:39:15- Cars travel at 70mph - and can kill people.

0:39:15 > 0:39:17- Guns, obviously.

0:39:17 > 0:39:19- Guitars?

0:39:19 > 0:39:21- What's the crack there?

0:39:30 > 0:39:36- The sadness is a part - of the musician's spirit.

0:39:37 > 0:39:40- Salvador plays with passion.

0:39:46 > 0:39:50- All I have to do is watch him and I - learn something. I learn by hearing.

0:40:11 > 0:40:14- Salvador is just great.

0:40:15 > 0:40:18- Five wives, not at the same time.

0:40:19 > 0:40:21- He's got children with all of them.

0:40:21 > 0:40:24- He has children - in Australia, China...

0:40:24 > 0:40:28- I didn't ask - about the other families.

0:40:40 > 0:40:42- Maestro de maestros.

0:40:45 > 0:40:46- The guy is amazing.

0:40:46 > 0:40:48- It's pure flamenco.

0:40:48 > 0:40:49- It's pure.

0:40:56 > 0:40:59- The history of gypsies...

0:40:59 > 0:41:05- ..I've always been very interested - in their culture and their freedom.

0:41:06 > 0:41:10- I've got a romantic image of gypsies - from my time living in Wales.

0:41:11 > 0:41:17- They're nomadic, they travel, - people settle in one place.

0:41:17 > 0:41:20- That carries on - one generation after another.

0:41:20 > 0:41:23- They're people. - They're great characters.

0:41:24 > 0:41:26- They're just natural.

0:41:27 > 0:41:28- They've got the soul.

0:41:28 > 0:41:33- They've got that special something. - It's in their blood.

0:42:48 > 0:42:52- Granada has been - so, so kind with me.

0:42:53 > 0:42:55- I'm lucky. Incredibly lucky.

0:42:56 > 0:43:00- My brother Dylan - said I was blessed and cursed.

0:43:00 > 0:43:02- It's a part of the journey.

0:43:03 > 0:43:07- Granada has turned me into - more of a man.

0:44:41 > 0:44:46- I think if my normal - was accepted in Wales, I'd return.

0:44:46 > 0:44:47- I am scared of people.

0:44:53 > 0:44:57- I love Wales. I miss my family.

0:44:57 > 0:44:59- There's a lot of pain.

0:45:00 > 0:45:02- I'm running away from myself.

0:45:03 > 0:45:06- The character - that everyone sees on the outside.

0:45:20 > 0:45:24- Yes, but this is why. - It's a new beginning.

0:45:24 > 0:45:27- It's a new beginning for me - to be me...

0:45:27 > 0:45:30- ..not the character - Aron Pep Le Pew...

0:45:30 > 0:45:34- ..or the character - my parents wanted me to be...

0:45:34 > 0:45:38- ..or the character my friends - wanted me to be, or the fool.

0:45:38 > 0:45:40- This is where I've bettered myself.

0:45:41 > 0:45:45- I was confused - and trying to please everyone else.

0:45:45 > 0:45:47- "What song would you like? OK."

0:45:47 > 0:45:51- Musically, - I always played for other people.

0:45:51 > 0:45:53- Here, I play what I feel.

0:45:56 > 0:46:01- Wales, I love you, - but I want to be me now.

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